Why don't all Pakistani leftists unite?

The left is not one ideology. In fact, it is composed of at least five major ideologies that are at odds with each other. These differences do not represent ego clashes but derive from real differences between the political views of different classes. The entire left can only unite at the expense of ignoring the scientific debate within the left. And such a unity would signal the intellectual death of the left.

[@sabanisar2523]

Really appreciate your effort.

[@zaminchangezi]

بہترین تجزیہ کامریڈ۔۔ شکریہ

[@arifuzzamantuhin]

Lal Salam..

[@oldsport5535]

sabaz w/salam😂

[@anwarhusain1952]

Kala...peela....hara(green). Jamuni....neela....narangee....baigni.....

[@adv.shoebshaikh9258]

Jazakallah Khair sir.... Very informative and cleared my concepts

[@Backhand77]

Please do this in English. For non-Urdu speakers. 🙂 Thanks

[@MustafaSajjadHaider_Dramatist]

Dear Dr. Taimur. Your elaboration of the topic and the conclusion is great, but since you talked about the Pakistani leftist you forgot to comment on Quranic Left and Right which essentially effects the Pakistani politics as Religious Card and Political Islam are the favorite tactics of some rather most politicians. Quranic Left and Right though deal with the life hereafter but in Pakistan it is applied in our material and present day lives of Pakistanis. This is a unique situation. I can't touch all its aspects in detail here but it has an immense effect in shaping Pakistani politics and mentality of Pakistanis who will ultimately be the members of all the leftist parties also. Hope you keep this aspect in mind when touching this topic in future.

[@malikal99]

I really needed this. Thank youu!

[@dr.habibnawab5149]

Great explanation and I agree with you in this regard.

[@muzamilbutt1552]

Thank you so much Ye question buhat dyr se tha mind me, video ab daikhi

[@saadnaseem891]

Islam is most balanced and best way.

[@faydjatoi]

Very informative Taimoor bhai...

[@vipuljawalekar6058]

Laal salam from India

[@somnathde8680]

Good point raised.

[@tyson6695]

love u sir,awesome as always

[@adsiaksi8607]

My feedback: The point is not to agree upon all disagreements, what I mean when I ask someone to the question "Why don't all Pakistani leftists unite?" is that under current circumstances why not left work together for the betterment of society. Like a family with a different point of view but choosing a united stance on an issue and then work together to achieve that. Indeed a healthy debate with different views in the only way to propose novel solutions to novel problems. I can now clearly see a rise of united left in Pakistan and I am really hopeful that it will grow stronger only.

[@Taimur_Laal]

Why don't all scientists work together? Because they disagree. Same with the left.

[@kamranmangla2260]

@@Taimur_Laal thanks for the reply. I disagree. In a way all scientist work together within a same frame (presumptions-theory- logic and evidence- conclusions) and towards the same goal. The disagreements and alternate theories survive upto a point where experimental evidence starts to pour in.

[@Taimur_Laal]

@@kamranmangla2260 well politics is a little more complicated because the stakes are much higher.

[@kamranmangla2260]

@@Taimur_Laal I agree and I understand. But just out of curiosity, what do you think the likely scenario is if all left would merge on a single platform? What would be the key common goals and policies of agreement and disagreements.

[@MaazSharif]

Thankyou sir, this is somehow helpful to understand the conflicts in islamic leftists also

[@sworthyboy]

Pakistan has many atheist leftits, especially of the social variety. Me being one of them, because of this there would be quite a lot of conflict.

[@fahadhussain66]

If we observe the actions of the centre-right/right wing in Pakistan, we'll notice a common pattern of forming coalitions like PDM (Pakistan Democratic Movement), IJI (Islami Jamhoori Ittehad), MMA (Mutahhida Majlis e Amal), etc. So I wonder why dont the left parties form such a coalition ATLEAST before the elections. This can be helpful, as it can allow everybody to have their differences of opinion like the former, and also make it easier for the voter group to get amalgamated under one banner for a temporary period of time.

[@Taimur_Laal]

That is exactly what we are doing right now.

[@karlmuud]

The closest party that may resemble a Democratic socialist agenda at least for the poor masses is pti. They have set a programme that looks into the issues of the poor and disenfranchised. But, nearly all the parties that have ruled Pakistan in the modern era are capitalist and implement neo liberal capitalist principles where there is a huge facilitation of the concentration of capital and funds in very few hands, as you know. There has been a great reliance on private capital in Pakistan in terms of investment and job creation which hasn't worked very well at all. A Democratic socialist set up from the outset would ensure the government takes the lead in investment through public investment in projects. For example hospitals, schools and housing thus creating jobs and opportunities. 😉

[@vegansarebad9744]

@@karlmuud it's ironic, right?

[@abdulbasitachakzai7303]

what about a grand political Alliance of the left on minimum Common agenda ? isn't that possible?

[@fahadhussain66]

Exactly. A coalition like GDA (Grand Democratic Alliance) like there have been by the people on the right spectrum in the past.

[@zainulabdin33]

Yes, alliance is possible. And we on the LEFT side are working on it.

[@mubashirsahu9385]

Sir! Kindly upload lectures on Muslim Political Thought

[@SaleemAwan]

ویڈیو بہت اچھی ہے مجھے بھی یہ سوال بہت تنگ کرتا تھا۔ سائنسدانوں کے اختلاف کا آپ نے ذکر کیا تو محترم سائنسدان تب تک اختلاف رکھتے ہیں جب تک واضع ثبوت نہ ہوں جب تک بات ایک زبانی تھیوری کی حد تک کہی جارہی ہو۔ اگر مختلف خیالات کے سائنسدانوں کو کسی ایک نقطہ نظر یا تھیوری پر ثبوت مل جائیں گے تو وہ پھر اختلافات ختم کردیتے ہیں اور اپنی غلطی درست کرلیتے ہیں۔ اگر سائنسدانوں کو جدید ترین کمپیوٹر بنانے پر لگائیں گے تو کوانٹم تھیوری والے اور ریلیٹیویٹی تھیوری والے بھی ملکر سائنسی اصولوں پر ایک جدید کمپیوٹر بنا دیں گے مگر یہ سماجی سائنسدان ایسا کبھی نہیں کرسکتے کیوں کہ یہ صرف تھیوریاں ہی تھیوریاں ہیں۔ روس میں پریکٹیکل ہوا مگر پھر بھی بنیادی اصولوں پر اپنی اپنی تھیوریاں ہیں ایک نقطہ نظر نہیں بنا نہ ہی کبھی بن پائے گا۔ سماجی سائنس کبھی اصل سائنس کے اصولوں پر کام نہیں کرپائے گی اسے کبھی بھی ریاضی کے اصولوں پر ثابت کرنا اگر ناممکن زیادہ سخت لفظ ہے تو مشکل تو ہمیشہ رہے گا

[@onairpoint48]

Thank you sir

[@jamilppo]

Ggreat lecture it has opened my eyes. Professors and our teachers were afraid of religious bigotry in our society.

[@ZahraIbrahim964]

Sir. .i m your big fan. Kindly when u visit Islamabad plan a meet-up with ur followers Stay blessed and happy

[@Taimur_Laal]

Sure.

Lal salaam from India... Akhand bharat under one red banner

[@comictube1831]

Leftist are not been able to successful in Pakistan as they talk about equal distribution of money, a fair justice system and equal opportunity to grow while enjoying perks and privileges of elite class rather than a middle class and lower middle class. Why people will come out for this type of revolution that their leftist leaders won’t be able to deliver. 2nd reason is our education system that is not productive and discourage to question the social norms and values. If we need a modern society that believe in socialism and respect and encourage democratic values then we have to really work on the education system and the ability of an individual to raise and face questions.

[@smartentertainment9574]

rightly said.

[@aqibmunawar9029]

very well sir,

[@shahidsardar1058]

Laal Khan sab (Tanveer Gondal) kay baray may kuch bataiay. Unho nay to koi NGO shayad join nahi ki.

[@haideraliaattish1725]

Intellectual💖

[@souhardyaadhikari7822]

Mere bhaii, Pakistan jaise religious desh me communism ko support karna kitna struggling hota hai.. Uspar ek video baniye

[@mpov9]

"Baayen baaju" ke log 😆😆😆

[@takitabib1998]

Leftist. Hindi - BaamPanthi

[@baapsabka7615]

@@takitabib1998 baamb nhi Vaam panthi

[@letsplay4410]

@@takitabib1998 "vampanthi" hota hai

[@letsplay4410]

Red salut from INDIA 😇🤗😘

[@TheSupermanMc]

🖕

[@sanghaparivarfederationofi9551]

Tricolor Salute 🇮🇳

[@ghulammurtazza3610]

In Pakistan , in my opinion there is need of socialism and huge structural changes, there is need of new social contract because our basic society structure has been distroyed, a new vision is need of time that eridicate the capitalism, mullaism

[@umayr2935]

the problem is with those people who want to use Lenin and Stalin's posters everywhere, not the anarchists, i have seen many anarchists and social democrats, none of them display their heroes on banners and with that regularity as Leninists do, neither do they identify themselves under that hero's umbrella. If there is anyone who is developing a very narrow identity, its only the Leninists. These identities are not to be used or displayed in united platforms, a united leftist platform cannot accommodate any idea that is specific to one group only. Also, anarchists don't deny leaders or organizations, if you listen to Prof. Chomsky, he regularly emphasizes on organizing, anarchism stresses more on everyone's participation, not to abolish organizational structure as a whole

[@zainabideen6275]

Social democracy and democratic socialism are two different terms. The former is a liberal centrist ideology which wants to develop a pro-people capitalist economy while the latter wants to establish "socialism" through reforms in this economy.

[@saddymehmoodbutt9888]

Well done sir

[@hammadshah4412]

One question ? Agar leftists mojood nizaam ke khilaaf Hain aur apna nizaam Lana chahte Hain let's suppose unka nizaam aagaya to uske baad bhi wo left rahenge ya right hojaenge ?

[@sameeransari6649]

Then right wing become left wing

[@joyking2105]

Left left hi rahta hai

[@mdminhazulislam1034]

@@sameeransari6649 no lol

[@mdidrishahmed8146]

Do you think that private ownership and socialism are mutually antithetical ? Or can one accommodate the other in any form or to any degree ?

[@karlmuud]

China does both though through an authoritarian mechanism.

[@AfsanHaider1]

We'll come sir.i watched it latr..

[@saqibanwaar9994]

Jis ki study short hy Wo Ap se bht mutasir ho ga .. Ap ki sari bato ko sach smjy ga.. Or asr b ly ga.

[@GhulamAli-ge8gi]

janab baat yeh nai . jis ki study kam hai woh tou bilkul left winger se impress hota hi nai . joo left winger hai , humari society mein parhna parhta hai . aap btaen ke right wing politics deliver kar saki hai humare pakistan mein

[@saqibanwaar9994]

@@GhulamAli-ge8gi is system me to na rite kr skti hy na left. Hmy new setup ki zrurat hy Nizam E haqoomat B Nizam e adal B Nizam E maeeshat b

[@ali179RB]

How many left parties in Pakistan

[@shabeerhurr2994]

nice sir

[@mujahidmohiuddin9207]

Sir😍😍😍

[@someesingh2827]

Left-Communism/Socialism; Anarchism Right- Conservatives; Reactionaries Centre- Reformists

[@shaheenshad5012]

Right libertarians are right wing.

[@someesingh2827]

@@shaheenshad5012 yeah man, thnx for pointing out

[@asmatkhan9339]

Appreciate sir

[@atiqahmad2018]

💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@ahadbaryar]

Hypocrisy bohot ha left mein. Wannabe b kafi ha! Pretenders

[@keyboard4786]

Pakistan ma bhe Inkalab aaega bht jald or Zalim Elite ko danda diya jaega

[@zohaibibrahim8065]

Kash ap rasool bux palijo sahb k bare me jante or lecture dete

[@AliHammadArtist]

You are using wrong word. There is difference between Social democrate and democratic socialist.

[@haroonkhan3636]

Ali Hammad better u explain the difference.

[@zainabideen6275]

Social democracy and democratic socialism are two different terms. The former is a liberal centrist ideology which wants to develop a pro-people capitalist economy while the latter wants to establish "socialism" through reforms in this economy.

[@urduadab5376]

Sir, where did Bertrand Russell support Communism?

[@Taimur_Laal]

He didn't support communism. But he supported a form of socialism. He wrote "It is clear the Socialists are the hope of the world".

[@ameegosar3336]

His Urdu is so good that for the first time I'm not getting it. Most Pakistanis use Hindi and call it Urdu

[@alimansoor6459]

Amee Gosar Mmmm u need more study on Hindi itself my friend. If a person speaks purely hindi.. u wouldnt be able to understand even, pakistanis dnt speak hindi! They speak urdu with a limited vocabulary! Jst like indians do with hindi:)

[@alimansoor6459]

Crush Communism true bro.. Urdu itself ihas a very high vocabulary! I started to read “tafheem ul Quran” by moalana maududi bt couldnt understand half it as the urdu words used are way of over my limitstion. U knw m almost 32 nw and coming to realize hw we illiterate we are, jst by completing MBA or speakking basic english, we think tht we hve achieved something and start thinking highly of ourself. I hve realized tht true knowledgr is in books and information abt our exsistence.

[@alimansoor6459]

ä pehla proper urdu tu seekha lain.. all they care abt is teaching english!

[@alimansoor6459]

ä absolutely wrong my friend! English has nthing to do with education.. bt yes we should push for education and india is no better thn us! They are living with their own versions of cults of religion! Yes they succeeded to an extent bt a few of thm! They are 1.3billion ppl.. we shouldnt compare ourself to thm! Bt i agree with u.. we keep running after. Issues which are useless! Bt regarding “shariyat”.. we hve to follow it! Bz as a muslim our main aim is hereafter! In this life its not necessary to succeed even after u word hard so jst keep trying bt with keeping islam first!

[@fourhorsemenmechanix757]

@ä Wow, so much of what you said is bs. I seriously doubt you're even Pakistani. Most probably another Indian just larping as one online. China is literally doing genocide on innocent civilians in the name of THEIR authoritarian philosophy India is attempting to initiate a Nazi inspired genocide on it's Muslims in the name of Hindutva. India's PM is literally a mass murdering RSS terrorist. And what genocide? You mean the one that literally only Bangladesh and India recognize (while no other nation does)? You do realize that the 3 million dead Bengalis thing is a lie right? Even some Bangladeshi historians have criticized that number as being highly inflated. According to the US state department 500,000 people died IN TOTAL (including soldiers). And almost 150,000 of the deaths were Biharis massacred by Bengali ethno-nationalists backed by India. And they were the ones that initiated the violence btw

[@battlefiedkhan1425]

A.N.P kya hai apki nazar mein kis category mein ate hai

[@wariskhan1775]

they are Opportunists. they played a left role in Pakistan in front of the public but in reality, they belong to Right-wing

[@muhammad-lv1ls]

Mashallah Sir you are to good .

[@rupendra79]

A man needs both his hand i.e. right & left. Centre being the balance.

[@gadoonk7200]

Please make a sperate video on leftist and rightest

[@gadoonk7200]

And this video should be on base of ideologies

[@anglerani7407]

🌷🌷

[@kidsapple448]

جناب آپ بُہت اچھا کام کر رہا ہو آپ لوگوں کی بہت کمی ہے🙏🙏

[@speak_charlie]

👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿

[@devendrapratapsingh6972]

Kya pakistan mei bhi left ideology walo ko rightwingers pro India or anti-national kahte hai?

[@takitabib1998]

Pakistan Me Left Ideology Ke Log Qul Milake 50 Hazar Se Zyada Nehi Hoga...

[@zuhasajid900]

@@takitabib1998 waqt kay sath zyada bhi ho saktay aen

[@whiteholeeducationcenter]

Pakistan ki establishment sari liberal corrupt elite hai

[@kawishabbasi9459]

Why you don't describe history of socialists in Pakistan? You or your generatin, for that matter not any single generation, are not only an ideological disc?

[@nizamwali3019]

او کیسے سر

[@Moonshot_OP]

Please use basic Urdu

[@zahyd6277]

*make a video lecture on occupied Kashmir* _love from iok_

[@aagantuk7370]

Come to India

[@bbhusari]

Sarmaydaari nizam = ?

[@sandeepram2289]

Capitalism

[@shariqrasulofficial]

Do leftists exist in Pakistan??😂😂

[@Taimur_Laal]

Apparently. Here I am.

[@RizwanAli-gg6pi]

yes alot

[@agoogleaccount9202]

Hmm... CPEC ka asar dikhna shuru ho chuka hai.

[@zuhasajid900]

Ho hi na jae ... don't worry abhi nae ho ga kiun kay hmari pak army ko abhi security kay naam pay gwadar, balochistan may abhi aur gand machana ae ..

[@NaveedJan834]

lal salam

[@sanghaparivarfederationofi9551]

Lal Salam ????? Your Sprit Depend On Colour ???? Midnight Blue is the real colour of Revolution .

[@MrBeautifulmountain]

Why offer an English title if the talk is not in English, other than to cream off a few extra views? It undermines your integrity.

[@Taimur_Laal]

Because even people who listen to Urdu lectures, search in English.

[@oldsport5535]

Bro aik Reality batoun Pakistan kabhi bhi leftist nahi ban sakta

[@whiteholeeducationcenter]

Pakistan ik leftist hai . Bass logo ko pata nahi hai Pakistan ki real government " Establishment" Liberal hai

[@debadattagiri9483]

I am right winger from India. But I respect left in subcontinent. Problem with left is its governance, it is more bureaucratic and dictatorial in nature.

[@whiteholeeducationcenter]

Not more than current Modi government

[@karlmuud]

Socialism is an excellent read for young people. 👍 Don't forget there are lots of excellent examples around the world. Ignore the extreme versions of socialism sometimes confused with communism not that anything is wrong with communism per se. The best examples can be found throughout Europe especially the Scandinavians.

[@jawadhabib1991]

I'm pretty sure you have got basic definitions absurdly distorted

[@hamidmahmoud5852]

Ji bhai aap ne french rev ki achi misal di h lekin ye bhi logon ko btaen ke kesay France me church or religion ko nishana bnaya gia tha. Clergy and church was suppressed, their property confiscated, covnents were closed. Many priests were killed. Now dont say that it was for emancipation of people. If so what was the reason of forming new atheistic religions like the Cult of Reason and the Cult of the Supreme Being. And they even tried to enforce these cults on people. Left wants a Godless society.

[@soban9265]

یورپ میں چرچ سب سے بڑا جاگیردار ادارہ تھا اور بادشاہت کا دستِ راست تھا۔ اس لیے چرچ نشانہ بنا۔ دنیا بھر کے مذاہب کو فرینچ ریولوشن سے سبق سیکھنا چاہیے کہ اگر وہ مستقبل میں اپنا انجام کیتھولک چرچ جیسا نہیں چاہتے تو اُن کو چاہیے خود کو سیاست سے دور رکھیں۔

[@hamidmahmoud5852]

Soban bhai is ka jawab pehle se me de chuka hon. The revolutionaries didn't only destroy church power but stopped people from praying to God. They brought their own religion (a satanic/atheastic religion of reason and supreme being) . Agar church jageerdar tha to os ka matlab khuda (God) ki ibadat par pabandi lagana no nahi h. I MEAN TO SAY THAT THE LEFTIST REVOLUTION IS NOT ONLY AGAINST RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS (CHURCH OR WHATEVER) BUT AGAINST RELIGION AND GOD. ITS A JEWISH AND FREEMASONIC WAY OF REPLACING THE POWER BY THEIR OWN ORDER.

[@soban9265]

That's not true and you lost me at Free masonic conspiracies.

[@hamidmahmoud5852]

Soban good that you recognise them as conspiracies and not as theories. Had they been so harmlessly cute they wouldn't have been disbanded in Imperial Russia in 1822 and Germany in 1933. And only ignorant or those who consider others ignorant would say that revolutions are grass root. Its all puppeteering.

[@hamidmahmoud5852]

Any way i shouldn't be trying to convince the left. Its for the youth to know that the fascinating romantic revolutionary bullshit is not as lovely as it seems.

[@saqibanwaar9994]

Ap ki khala Asima jahagir liftest hi thn... Religion ki Hmysha mukhalif ki us ny.. Waqt k badsha ki Awaz bni e.g Panama case me Nawaz Shrif ki puri hamayat krti thn. Agr religion ka leftists k sath t'aluq ni to Why Mostly leftest are against religion??? Hmary mulk me leftest ki term religion k mukhalif logo k liy hi use ki jati he so don't confuse the concept of leftest term using in our country.

[@soban9265]

عاصمہ جہانگیر بائیں بازو کے خیالات رکھتی تھیں اور مذہب کے سیاسی استعمال کی اُنہوں نے ہمیشہ مخالفت کی۔ ہر لیفٹسٹ بنیادی طور پر سیکولر ہوتا ہے یا کم از کم اُسے سیکولر ہونا چاہیے۔ اس لیے لیفٹسٹ مذہب کے سیاسی استعمال کے خلاف ہوتے ہیں البتہ لوگوں کی ذاتی زندگیوں میں مذہب کی کوئی مخالفت نہیں کرتا۔ اس لیے یہ بات درست نہیں ہے کہ ہر لیفٹسٹ مذہب کے خلاف ہوتا ہے بلکہ یہ بات درست ہے کہ لیفٹسٹ مذہب کے سیاسی استعمال کے خلاف ہوتا ہے۔