Why Don't More People Collect Cassettes? - Tape vs Vinyl

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Music Theories

Music Theories

Күн бұрын

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@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Which type of audio player did you grow up using? One of my oldest memories is riding around in my dad's work truck (he worked for Budweiser XD) listening to his collections of old Irish tunes on cassette. For some reason I really enjoyed Jolly Tinker by Tommy Makem and the Clancy Brothers haha!
@milosantos28
@milosantos28 3 жыл бұрын
When people start collecting CDs the ways they collect vinyls and cassette, that's when I know my childhood has become retro and I'm old. 🤣
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 same
@pgroove163
@pgroove163 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge jazz CD collector...and cassettes
@TigerBoyRS
@TigerBoyRS 3 жыл бұрын
Hey I'm already at that stage! Lots of remastered CDs for chewing gum values everywhere... Cheers from 🇵🇹
@milosantos28
@milosantos28 3 жыл бұрын
@@TigerBoyRS cheers! It’s official then, I’m old Lol 🤣
@stevenuttley
@stevenuttley 2 жыл бұрын
They do. CDs still outsell vinyle & cassettes (not necessarily in value because vinyl is expensive but certainly in unit numbers).
@alexmathewmendoza
@alexmathewmendoza 2 жыл бұрын
I really believe that each format has a culture all its own. Cassette culture is very rich and even contains subcultures within based on genre; for example cassettes were important to hip hop in the 80s and 90s much how cassettes were important to metalheads and punk fans. There's just something about cassettes, from the color of the tape, the photos and lyrics within the j-card, it just makes for great analog packaging of music and creates an experience separate but still parallel to vinyl and CD.
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Love this comment!
@rramirez4217
@rramirez4217 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer cassettes. Those were the days I'd really listen to music, hear every song and really connected with the music. When CDs arrived that's when I'd start skipping and going straight to the hits, ect. Streaming is even worse.
@KoolAids-vj1ll
@KoolAids-vj1ll 2 жыл бұрын
true, but without digital I wouldn't be able to experience daft punk for the first time. And having someone's playlist they spent years on is an experience
@youpig6060
@youpig6060 3 жыл бұрын
As somone who only just got into cassetes i love the sound of the end off cassettes where it goes from a hiss which stops on each channle and then you hear the deck make a *click* and a *clunk* and then silence. Honestly is like watching a really good movie where your just sit back in the credits and go "wow... that was nice".
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 3 жыл бұрын
I know that feeling well!!
@muesique
@muesique 3 жыл бұрын
Decent cassettes sound incredibly well with a high end deck, but even with a cheaper one. I have a lot of old tapes from the 90s made on East-german "HiFi". When I put them in a new TASCAM deck my jaw dropped! I had in my mind that hissing boom box sound. But they sound really good! Even after 25 years! With an upper class deck (in my case AIWA AD-F810) and decent cassettes (TDK SA, BASF Chrome Super II, Denon) you'll get results you will not believe if you don't hear it! Even without Dolby virtually no hiss. If you don't tell somebody that's tape he'll think it's from CD! When tape disappeared in the early 2000 that technology was mature and at a final point. It couldn't get better any more. Digital music was and is more convenient. But the sound often isn't better. Even with high bit rates. You can put thousands of tapes on an USB stick and the sound is ok. The quality will stay that way. That's it! If you like music and sound, sooner or later you want something to grab on. Vinyl or tape. This imperfect analog hardware that makes music come to life ...
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! I DEFINITELY want to get a quality cassette deck after reading this comment 😃😃 thank you so much for sharing!
@muesique
@muesique 3 жыл бұрын
@@MusicTheoriesChannel ;) I'm proud that I made you curiuos! Half a year ago I saw a video about a new TASCAM deck. Than I saw my dozens of tapes laying around. Well, I gave it a try! Next step I bought some really good old decks on ebay. When they are in good condition they are much better than the newer ones. If you find a cheap deck that cost more than 500 or 1000 bugs 20 years ago you couldn't go wrong. If I had known that I hadn't bought the new TASCAM!
@ScottGrammer
@ScottGrammer 3 жыл бұрын
You are right. I am a professional vintage audio repair tech, and I have two decks at home, a Teac A-303 (middle of the line, from 1974) and a Pioneer CT-F900 (near the top of Pioneer's line in 1977-78). The Teac sounds good with prerecorded tapes in good condition, but the three-head Pioneer can sound amazingly good. I'm not ready to compare it to uncompressed digital, but it's amazing how far the format came from its introduction in 1963 as a monophonic dictation medium with a frequency response of about 100-6,000 Hz. Keep in mind that NO cassette deck (or other analog tape deck) will sound its best unless it is cleaned after every two to ten hours of play, demagnetized after every 100 hours or so, and unless it is professionally checked and adjusted once every year or two.
@stevenuttley
@stevenuttley 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure your USB stick files will stay that way. USB sticks don't seem stable. Hard drives last around 5 years and then crash. The cloud is OK so long as you maintain your subscription but only because the companies are constantly replacing their drives as they fail. I still have 40 year old cassette tapes that sound good and also CDs around 35 years old that play perfectly. Vinyl of course goes on even longer if not subject to physical damage.
@artsimannisto5659
@artsimannisto5659 2 жыл бұрын
Yess,well put! I got AIWA ADF-770, and sweet is the sound. From kentucky to here at Finland. Way wrong voltage,but transformer got it right.
@jp93309
@jp93309 3 жыл бұрын
I love pre-recorded music on cassette. Less hassle than the ritual of wiping static from a record and cleaning the stylus before playing. Especially dig the clunk and whir of the cassette deck buttons when you press rewind and play. I’m a fam of most formats though including CDs and streaming. It’s all music anyway.
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 3 жыл бұрын
that's the ticket! love this comment
@johnoofsatchurch
@johnoofsatchurch 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a fan of most formats expect 8-track and streaming. In my opinion digital audio is just awful
@OldTechMemories.mp3
@OldTechMemories.mp3 Жыл бұрын
I love both vinyl and cassettes!!
@pourlefun
@pourlefun 3 жыл бұрын
The thing with sound quality is you can always do better - regardless of the format you're using. On decent (but not expensive) equipment, I listen to (and still buy) CDs, cassettes, MP3s, and LPs without worrying the comparative differences. I remember people in the early 1990s dumping their record collections only to regret it later. Today, people are dumping entire CD collections for a couple hundred bucks. That's the big point to focus on with physical formats right now: CDs are the most durable, convenient, easy to transport, and easy-to-digitize. They are also the easiest format to find and the cheapest to buy.
@BNWilliamGaming
@BNWilliamGaming 27 күн бұрын
A very famous KZbinr once said about vinyl “It’s not about the sound quality. It’s about the vibe quality.”
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 16 күн бұрын
Makes sense to me!
@bobcarn
@bobcarn 3 жыл бұрын
I've started making the transition to vinyl again after all these years (I grew up with it). My reasons are a combination of all of the things said here. I like the warmth of the sound. I like the ritual. I the larger size of the album cover and sleeve and that there is a lot of information on it that is completely absent from digital streaming. I like that there is a connection between me and the physical music.
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Love that! Thanks for sharing!
@computerkid1416
@computerkid1416 Жыл бұрын
I like how cassettes are smaller and usually cheaper than Vinyl. I also love how they have end labels, making them more displayable on a shelf. And, with the right equipment, they can sound amazing. The only downside is that some tapes warp or wear out and aren't really playable anymore, but they're cheap enough to replace when that happens.
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel Жыл бұрын
All great reasons to love them!
@Pauldjreadman
@Pauldjreadman Жыл бұрын
Vinyl will never die. The number of times a new format comes a long but vinyl never disappear, never.
@PlayitagainVHS
@PlayitagainVHS 2 жыл бұрын
CDs will make a huge comeback down the road.Why?Whats old always becomes new again.Plus, the Cassettes collectors today,who are still collecting cassettes, will inspire future cassette collectors to keep collecting cassettes of tomorrow.👍Cassettes are still fun to collect and it all comes down to how you the cassette collector, store ur cassettes and how you handle them.If you take good care of ur cassettes and treat them right, your cassettes will definitely take care of you.They said cassettes are only good for 30 some years? Well how come my cassettes are still playing today?And alot of my cassettes are way over 30 years old.Always keep ur cassettes in a safe environment.Meaning out of the sunlight or moldy basements, or hot atics.Always rewind ur cassette after playing them.Store away properly.😃👍God bless cassettes and CDs.😀👍✌❤
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 2 жыл бұрын
I have to agree with you! I think CDs will make a comeback at some point. There's been a recent uptick in the glorification of the early 2000's so we shall see 😆
@PlayitagainVHS
@PlayitagainVHS 2 жыл бұрын
@@MusicTheoriesChannel Yes ,we shall see.🙂👍
@verastaki
@verastaki 2 жыл бұрын
Best part I like about tapes is, I can fine-tune them when recording, making them sound LOUDER SHARPER and CLEANER than CD's and Especially MP3's!
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@geoffgero6081
@geoffgero6081 3 жыл бұрын
People who think cassettes are lo-fi haven’t used a quality deck. Metal tape encoded with Dolby S or DBX has a better dynamic range and frequency response than CD. Even prerecorded type 1 tapes are better to me than CD, but I prefer all analog formats over digital
@batterieman3001
@batterieman3001 3 жыл бұрын
The 'machine eats tape' story mostly comes from cheap tapes used in cheap car stereos. These decks are very low quality, and due to being installed in a car, which rattles around, is exposed to humidity and heat and maybe even people smoking inside the car, the dirty mechanism caused the tape to get stuck. Also, I'm not so sure about what you said about longevity of tape. I have cassettes from my dad which are almost 40 years old and they sound perfect, indistinguishable from a CD, whereas some of my vinyl records I bought second hand can sound very muffled on sections that have been played very often. Nevertheless, great video!
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Makes sense! Got this info from various sources (linked) and not from my own experience, so you could very well be right about the longevity. Thanks for watching!
@johnoofsatchurch
@johnoofsatchurch 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah definitely depends on how much your spend, $13 tape player on Amazon is gonna sound awful and eat your tapes. Just like record players, if you buy a $50 dollar record player it’s gonna be made of plastic and slow. I used to have one of those cheap cassette players and it ate my Rod Stewart tape :( But now I have a Sony Walkman and a JVC boombox with cd and radio functions and it sounds amazing and has never ate a tape. About the lifespan of tapes, I have many 30-50 year old tapes and sound wonderful still. I have my one of my grandpas Fleetwood Mac tapes almost being 50 years old and my grandpa said he used to play it every day for years, still sounds amazing. As for what sounds better I would say Cassettes are better, With vinyl you might be able to hear a bit of stuff you can’t hear on cassette, but of course the surface snap crackle pop makes cassette take the lead. Cassettes are more portable, way more portable, but records are fun to look at when your watching it spin.
@artsimannisto5659
@artsimannisto5659 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnoofsatchurch SuperiorTape. With good tape and deck or portable walkman deck,you hear all the nyances from cassette. Chrome or metal tape.
@GOGGLETUBESUCKS4UIC
@GOGGLETUBESUCKS4UIC 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear someone else who understands cassette recorded analog media for the purpose and warmth of it. I had to recently throw out all my CD's that I made in the 2010's. They just would not work in any player anymore. It's like they where slowly being erased over time losing data and skipping. I still have plenty of personal cassettes i made years before and they ALL still work fine. The cassette deck I made them on died but it was easy to buy a refurbished cassette deck from eBay from a reputable buyer who repairs mostly tape decks. The tapes sound as good as day one and are 15to 20 years older than the CD's. If you want to store your audible memories do it on a cassette tape. They will still be around years from now and so will the equipment to play them on. My oldest cassette is over 54 years old and still plays. I think that is enough for a lifetime and then some for whoever to discover it. My outdoor time capsule tape (Maxell UR 90 clear shell) was buried in the soil in a zip lock bag in an air tight container 30 years ago and still plays just as it did when new. Try that with a CD or MP3 player and see if they still work.
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting!
@hyzenthlay7151
@hyzenthlay7151 3 жыл бұрын
My favourite way to listen to music is actually the Minidisc, which has almost CD quality sound but with the sturdiness and durability of a cassette, especially for portable players or car head units. Also the fact you can edit the discs yourself on your equipment with the touch of a button, to cut tracks perfectly of a continuous live recording you made yourself for example, using nothing more than your home deck or portable recorder, without having to rip or capture it to a computer to edit there. The antishock mechanism is also perfect for portable and car units, making it virtualñy impossible to make a track jump at all... And all in a very compact and easy to handle design.
@shanestewart4814
@shanestewart4814 2 жыл бұрын
Cassettes have always been my thing. I’ve picked up hundreds of unspooled tapes when they used to be out along the streets and roads and would put them all back together and play them. Sound quality wasn’t my big concern. I just enjoyed hearing what was on them as cast away sounds. To this day I’ll hear a clean clear recording of a song and remember some of the unique wrinkled areas, stretches, and spots where the song was broke in two ( or many pieces depending on the condition of the tape ). I played some broken tapes enough times for those damaged areas to set deep in my mind. Of course with all that scotch tape, I had be sure to clean my boom box’s capstan, pinch roller and head often.
@leotrash32
@leotrash32 8 ай бұрын
Got them all! And all of them can still move your soul in different ways. Certainly some formats are stuck with a specific generation (LP's and 8-tracks on 70-80's, cassettes on 90's and Cds by the mid-end 90's) but the average collector admires the aspect of holding onto something while the listening experiences goes with every listening you get on your favourite format. Cassettes are special, since with most home devices of the time, you could record your fav song from the radio or just add another one and do a personal mix and put it while you drive on holidays or anywhere (maybe the beginnings of the playlists?). One thing is sure, each hold its ground up until today! Still see and know about several Deadheads still listening their cassette tapes. I can't resist to listen a Blu-Ray in Hi-Res or with a 5.1mix (Steven Wilson's are surely the ones to get on this department) but to grap an LP, put it on and just lay down and let that music blow your mind is quite the experience anyone can enjoy.
@jasonscarlett8868
@jasonscarlett8868 3 жыл бұрын
Toronto Canada AKA The 6ix🇨🇦 Great topic love the reasoning I've been a DJ for years now and I grew up on cassettes vinyl and CDs📀 but my daughter who is now 14 and some of her friends are crazy about vinyl and cassettes! My kid has a cassette tape collection which is pretty impressive👌🏽She's a big fan of Motown, Disco & Old school hip hop and loves Billie eilish which she also has on cassette tape I asked her why is this such a big deal to have them on Old school cassette🤔 she tells me because it sounds warmer to her ears she says these days everyone is in a rush 😒 and digital music is sharp and quick but with analog it makes you take the time to listen to the instruments and vocals in a relaxing way...😏Great Channel keep up the good work!💯
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 3 жыл бұрын
I love that you’re both into music and can share that enthusiasm from different perspectives! I think it’s pretty cool that newer artists like Billie Eilish are releasing music on different formats as well. Thank you so much for watching and commenting!
@verastaki
@verastaki 2 жыл бұрын
I collect Audio Compact Cassette Tapes! Have over 4,000 Different Types Styles Colours Brands of Cassettes in my collection. Not to mention, never stopped recording audio on Cassettes, still do till this day, since you can buy blank tapes at almost any store today. Audio Compact Cassette Tapes remain my number one format for music Reproduction.
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! 4,000!
@joshuadiaz2757
@joshuadiaz2757 Жыл бұрын
Personally, I love all physical mediums. Each one has its own pros and cons as you described really well, so great job. If I were to add something to your analysis, I think one could make an argument that certain genres of music are not really well suited for tape (I'm talking the portable players here), while others can be straight up just fun to listen to on tape. For me, I've got some old Jim Croce tapes that remind me of my dad and him playing guitar, so listening to those tapes are really fun for the nostalgia. Also certain genres that are sonically busy can drown out the hiss that comes from tape. I feel like tape really suffers with music that really needs quiet and loud moments (e.g. classical would probably not be fun to listen to on tape unless you have an amazing tape deck). Anyway, that's my two cents. Thanks for the analysis.
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel Жыл бұрын
I love that you brought up emotional connection. If you spent so much time listening to tape with your dad, the tape will undoubtedly make you feel close to him and that’s a reason to collect in and of itself!
@KadalCj
@KadalCj 3 жыл бұрын
I love cassette because it makes me remember my father because he loves to collect cassette, walk me to the cassette store and grab something that he or I like, and I think I was raised near the end of the cassette era. Now after finishing my collage, I start to collect cassette again, because I couldn't afford one before. Recently I bought an old Player and some Japanese song record. I'm not really comparing about the sound quality but, I think that doesn't really matter as long I enjoy the content of it. But I guest you can't really compare Vinyl and Cassette sound quality because, the one that release on the market are using the Type I Cassette instead of Type IV (that have low noise with a CD like sound quality). For me, having a physical copy of a song or album that you love is there was some satisfaction that you can't describe. My opinion is if you really aiming for sound quality or audio fidelity, you sound go for high end digital audio. In this old media, you will find hiss or noise (Cassette) and popping or crackling sound (Vinyl). You can't really get a clean audio from it. But just like the ending, "Do what you want". Love it.
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 3 жыл бұрын
What a sweet memory 🥺 I couldn't agree more; there's definitely more to music than sound quality sometimes. Thank you so much for sharing that!
@YaBoyNoob
@YaBoyNoob 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree with the 30-year lifespan of cassettes, I have tapes that are 35+ and they still sound perfect.
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 3 жыл бұрын
That's great! Is there anything specific you do, maybe storage-wise or something, to maintain their good condition?
@YaBoyNoob
@YaBoyNoob 3 жыл бұрын
@@MusicTheoriesChannel Not really, just keep them away from magnets, and keep them in a casette case when not in use.
@cogitoergosumsc5717
@cogitoergosumsc5717 3 жыл бұрын
ANA[DIA]LOG on re-lubing your tapes. It works. Check it out.
@metaljoe9088
@metaljoe9088 Жыл бұрын
Buy a nakamichi cassette deck for your cassettes, it'll blow your cds out of the water in terms of sound quality
@shawnjolly2089
@shawnjolly2089 3 жыл бұрын
I hope cassettes make a huge comeback I love collecting 8tracks vinyl and tapes yes it is very addicting
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 3 жыл бұрын
whoa!! I have never heard someone say that they collect 8-tracks! Are they hard to come by??
@shawnjolly2089
@shawnjolly2089 3 жыл бұрын
@@MusicTheoriesChannel at the thrift store where I live now I did buy the last of what they had out though
@shawnjolly2089
@shawnjolly2089 3 жыл бұрын
@@MusicTheoriesChannel I have two portable 8-track players and three other ones two of which needs belts the portable ones work great just need to find a plug in for the solid-state when I have
@shawnjolly2089
@shawnjolly2089 3 жыл бұрын
I also collect VHS tapes
@dana.1546
@dana.1546 3 жыл бұрын
In the 80's I prefered vinyl because of the booming sound and huge sleeves (and when they were glossy and not matte) they were a joy to touch and almost to smell. But my sister preferred tapes because they were smaller and because they didn't wear, the sound remained pretty much the same at every listen not like vinyl who would degraded with every listen. Those were our arguments in the family back in the day. Today we both love CD's for their durability (my first CD bought in 1992 is still in mint condition, pretty much) and the sound without wear is remarquable. Plus the CD instant track random access is surely a plus. But eventually both of us appreciate now MP3's more because we can carry them everywhere (in our cars on flash drives or in our phones and computers when we travel).
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 3 жыл бұрын
There are definitely pros and cons for every format! Thank you for sharing your memory and thoughts!
@duprie37
@duprie37 9 ай бұрын
Cassettes can sound great if you have a good deck and, ironically, if you record your own rather than buying commercially dubbed cassettes. They're objectively even "warmer" than vinyl. However commercial music cassettes were dubbed _en masse_ at really low quality, aimed at teens like me who played them back on cheap Walkmans and boomboxes where it just didn't matter that much. If audiophiles used magnetic media at all they stuck strictly to very expensive "reel to reel" tape machines. But if you have some good quality Type IV blanks and record your own, dubbing in real time from the source with Dolby B noise reduction implemented properly, audio cassettes can actually sound quite wonderful. One issue nowadays is that literally nobody makes quality new cassette decks anymore &nobody makes high quality Type II & Type IV blank cassettes either so you're stuck with second-hand products or "new-old" stock of wildly varying quality.
@MikinessAnalog
@MikinessAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
I think many are overlooking the elephant in the room. How many people do you know personally that own their own record lathe? I think some do not hold cassettes with the same regard as vinyl because you can't record onto vinyl. Lacquer master blanks are expensive and lathes are hundreds of times more expensive. A record can be seen as something never done by a "layman" and scene as always professionally produced.
@NicoDeclerckBelgium
@NicoDeclerckBelgium 2 жыл бұрын
Been into tapes (and vinyl) for 40+ years (and about 30 years into CD's, used MIniDisc in the late 90s too)... NEVER EVER had a tape eaten by the equipment. I have more CD's that are unplayable due to CD rot, or even vinyl records (even though I love them) that skipped right out of the factory because the grooves literally were too close together (even I should admit that on a few thousand it's less than 10 albums that have that problem). So I keep asking myself: what crappy equipment or tapes have people used to primarily remember tapes being eaten by the player, or even winding cassettes with a pencil (since all pencils in Belgium are too small to even do that - even during the haydays of cassette: the 1980s, we used to use a specific model of - very cheap - ballpoint pen to do that). But I just like cassettes (not the prerecorded ones) because it has a lot of the advantages of vinyl (yes it is High Fidelity, if you use good cassettes and invest in good equipment - no need for super expensive -, but it's also a tactile format, and even more conventient in use than vinyl). Even with pretty basic Dolby C the tape hiss is minimal, and with Dolby S it's hardly noticeable. But still, if I'd wanted digital, I'd use it (and I often do, too).
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 2 жыл бұрын
It's so funny to me how split people are on the decks eating the tape 😆its definitely likely that a lot of people were simply using cheaper machinery! all the comments on this video have really inspired me to want to find a quality deck to give cassettes a fair shot.
@commondog3956
@commondog3956 2 жыл бұрын
On that note, how would we identify a nice tape deck? What are the hallmarks and how can you be smart in your search? I'm interested.
@NicoDeclerckBelgium
@NicoDeclerckBelgium 2 жыл бұрын
@@commondog3956 My opinion is that a decent deck does not have to be a three head, two motor, amorphous head and very expensive deck. Of course those decks will have some advantages. But whatever mid-range and higher deck from the late eighties and early nineties from a reputable maker will probably be a decent deck. It might (and probably will) need some new rubber parts and general revision of the mechanical parts (and perhaps even part of the electronics). If budget is a limitation: I have very good experiences with "normal" cassettes the Pioneer CT-S450S for instance (which is hardly a high end or high tech deck, but then again: normal tapes are not high end either). I tend to choose for non autoreverse, single decks. Dolby C as minimum noise reduction. I like the later Pioneer BLE technology (or Auto BLE or Super BLE, or what ever they have called their automatic Bias, Level and EQ calibration). Other brands will probably have similar capabilities. You could go high tech, high price as well... Just look at the reviews (there are several forums around that focus on that). And... most importantly: enjoy what you're doing.
@commondog3956
@commondog3956 2 жыл бұрын
@@NicoDeclerckBelgium This is all solid info I'm writing down. Thanks so much, Nico!
@mouldypretzel
@mouldypretzel 3 жыл бұрын
For me, the most defining characteristic of a Vinyl record is the fact that don't require ANY source of electricity to play, but it does definitely help if you do and good luck finding an old player that does it's thing with only the stored potential energy of a spring and acoustic sound enhancement
@Magisktification
@Magisktification 3 жыл бұрын
Well in all seriousness how many use that? Probably less than 0.1%.
@mouldypretzel
@mouldypretzel 3 жыл бұрын
@@Magisktification 0.1% of people over 70 I'm guessing
@Magisktification
@Magisktification 3 жыл бұрын
@@mouldypretzel Would be pretty neat to have such a device 👍
@attag_ua
@attag_ua 5 күн бұрын
You are very wrong. All vinyl players were electric. The windup grammophones used shellac records, that were rotating with 78-rpm speed and had much bigger needle. The vinyl is using 33 or 45 rpm speed and much denser. It couldn't drive enough amplification by power of passive acoustic mechanism. It was more fragile and instead of using huge metallic tube like shellac it used small needle on plastic hand. If you try to play any vinyl in wind-up grammophone, it will not play any good sound and will quickly destroy it.
@F40PH-2CAT
@F40PH-2CAT 3 жыл бұрын
I have a huge cassette collection and know others who do. You need to get out more.
@prussiankingdom1693
@prussiankingdom1693 Жыл бұрын
I love all three, for me its like a tangible things. Plus i was born in 03. I still remember vhs at Hollywoodvideo. Plus the thing I also like about collecting them all is that they fill different roles. Records for when you aren't really going anywhere, Tape for when you want a analog sound but limited on space or time plus you can pick it up again where you left off, and CD for convenience. They all should be loved and people respected for collecting what they love, be it looks or any other reason.
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@UltraSpaceNinja
@UltraSpaceNinja Жыл бұрын
At first, I got into collect cassettes as a joke lol, my friend buys rare coloured vinyl exclusively, more for the collectors mentality, so as a joke I found a brightly coloured cassette tape in a record store and started mocking him and bought it cause it was cheap and I could stick it in my pocket 😂 I was always into 80s video games and tech anyway so once I had nothing to play my new tape in I instantly got a deck and tape set up and now I exclusive buy physical music releases on tape, fell in love the the clunk of the buttons when you press play and having to actively get up and turn to side b makes me focus on the music more 😁
@bryansteele832
@bryansteele832 Жыл бұрын
People do not collect cassettes because they naturally degrade over time. The tape just breaks. You can do whatever you can to keep your records from scratching and warping, but a casette tape can break just from being used.
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel Жыл бұрын
A lot of people would agree!
@iranmaia91
@iranmaia91 2 жыл бұрын
I like cassettes, I don't know why. I could say that is the portable experience of listenning a full album, but I do it with digital music too. I have a big collection of digital CD quality FLAC music, have vinyl, but I like cassettes.
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 2 жыл бұрын
I like that you have a little bit of everything, but still know your preference (:
@balbuenaedwin
@balbuenaedwin 2 ай бұрын
It is indeed very convenient and easy in today's time to listen to music because of the music streaming platforms brought to us by the internet. There is no need to individually purchase each album or single of your favorite artists. By simply paying a subscription fee, you can listen to any music you desire. However, despite the modern way of listening to music, you still long for the physical record that may deteriorate over time but holds memories of the past, especially of your youth. Having a collection of records is a testament to your love for the art of music, and while buying albums of your favorite artists may have been expensive, there were plenty of options available due to the thriving music industry, as artists used to earn more from records back then than they do now.
@verastaki
@verastaki 2 жыл бұрын
I Listen to Compact Cassette Tapes on a Daily Basis, And They Still Sound Amazing Crisp Clear. I have Cassettes From 1968, Which Still Sound Good. I Don't Remember Having Any Problems With Compact Cassette Tapes.
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@MMMlewis5592-q1b
@MMMlewis5592-q1b 7 ай бұрын
When I was a kid cds were what was popular at the time. Cassettes were still widely sold and cars didn't really have CD players in them yet. I had a portable tape and cd player. As an adult I listen to several forms such as vinyl, CD, and digital. I think as far as convenience goes digital will always win because you can get it on your phone, TV, and computer. I do also collect a lot of vinyl because I like the sound and the large artwork and jackets that come with them.
@alicyjinx8923
@alicyjinx8923 Жыл бұрын
I love cassete tapes :) Theyre a lot better than people realize
@jake105
@jake105 Жыл бұрын
I know for a fact cassette tapes last 40 + years. I have pre-recorded cassettes from the late 1970's and blank cassettes that I recorded vinyl albums as far back as 1981 that still sound great. I shouldn't say the pre-recorded tapes sound "Great". The quality got much higher by the mid-1980's. Cassettes like Princes "Around the World in a Day" & Dire Straits "Brothers in Arms" are excellent quality recordings.
@paulmcwilliams8641
@paulmcwilliams8641 3 жыл бұрын
In the 70's when I bought a new album, I used to record it on to cassette on it's first play and still pristine. No dust, little or no static, no scratches etc. The album would then go away and stay perfecto. I could listen to the album on my hifi system or in the car, with no concerns about damage, because I had the perfect back up. Often after listening to it, I would decide I only bought it for the single and did not like the album. As the LP was still unblemished I got a much higher resale. When CDs came along I got into that genre too, but held on to the LP's. Then came mini disc, my LP's came out yet again and were recorded on to those and my cassette player in the car and walkman were replaced. Along came MP3 then FLACs and another recycle with next recording of my 33's, but then what was the point of keeping them after that? I sold my Transcriptors Hydraulic Reference for a decent profit after owning it for 40 years. I now source my music from a SSD hard drive, via a Blu Ray player into a Yamaha amplifier and then on to my current speakers. Their technology is much the same after all this time. However. Did I enjoy Meddle - Pink Floyd on LP, of course. On cassette, yes. On mini disc, too right. On CD excellent. MP3 was ace and FLAC may be better, but my ears are 68 years old now and therefore untrustworthy. I even enjoy it, played badly, by ear, on my guitar or piano. It is not the format that counts, but what you are listening to. Oh and I rarely listen to music in my car now, it's mostly audio books on MP3 at 96 - 128 kbs. Music is for my stereo hi fi system only.
@imarealwitch1154
@imarealwitch1154 2 жыл бұрын
I destroyed and re recorded too many cassettes when i was a child. I guess i will start getting some vinyls since i never experienced that.
@马泽鑫-e8b
@马泽鑫-e8b 3 жыл бұрын
I personally love cassettes for their sizes and yass, its sound quality!
@superradness
@superradness 2 жыл бұрын
I think the reason people look down on cassettes today is because of their bad memories with them. Unless you were rich or had rich parents, you were stuck with a cheap Walkman or radio/cassette player, which contained cheaper mechanisms that put out inferior sound quality, and had the tendency to eat tapes. Put a tape in a Walkman and then into a high end deck like a Nakamichi or Technics, and I guarantee you that you’ll be amazed by the difference.
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 2 жыл бұрын
this is a great point!!
@PringoOrSomething
@PringoOrSomething Ай бұрын
For me the main issue with cassettes is durability they can mold easily and wear with use muck quicker than vinyl
@geraldmcmullon2465
@geraldmcmullon2465 2 жыл бұрын
I moved for employment and within 5 years commuted for 90 minutes each way back to where I moved from. I recorded radio programmes and listened to them the next day on the train. So built up a large collection of off-air recordings (audio dramas documentary as well as music programmes). Recent I got a 1990s B&O system with a HX Pro and have been impressed with the quality of reproduction particularly of live recordings including those made on other decks with Dolby B and C. I have even managed to find sealed original recordings over 30 years old that are remarkably good now. Is the cassette, type 1 ferric in Dolby B up to the vinyl or CD possibly not, I can't really say. The music was so compelling in any format I too quickly got into listening to the music and not the equipment and that is all I want from any music playback. There is one aspect that is very different. You can buy an inexpensive to insanely hi-end brand new turntable for vinyl but a decent to hi-end cassette deck has not be manufactured for decades.
@cookiesontoast9981
@cookiesontoast9981 4 ай бұрын
For me it's not about sound or aesthetic. It's about just being able to hold the albums I love in my hands and listen to them off the physical albums when I'm in the mood to. Just feeling closer to the music that I love. But sound? I'm not an audiophile at all, I don't really care. I just love music and I appreciate the difference in audio quality, to me there is no "better" or "worse" sound quality. It's all great for different reasons. And the aesthetic? I mean... sure I love looking at them but literally nobody I know in person likes my music, so it's not going to spark any conversations.
@brians3987
@brians3987 2 жыл бұрын
I only got cassettes to record on and play them in the car. My cherished collections are on record albums and Cds. I used to like CDs in the 1980s when they were recorded lower. I hated when they started making CDs all louder sounding and cold.
@fraudsarentfriends4717
@fraudsarentfriends4717 Жыл бұрын
Bands were mastered on tape in the recording studios back in the day.They would cut the record off that master. So yes, tape can sound really good. They can sound better than vinyl.
@miguelmondragon7565
@miguelmondragon7565 11 ай бұрын
I've recently started collecting cassettes and despite knowing that the sound quality won't be as crisp as vinyl or as convenient as digital; the enjoyment I get from finding new music, different songs and making my own mixtapes makes them worthwhile for me. I love learning more about the things I enjoy and cassettes have been at the forefront, but I'm enjoying the various music formats my parents and even grandparents enjoyed, which is a plus in my eyes.
@jarms40
@jarms40 3 жыл бұрын
The recording process was quite different between vinyl 33rpm records and pre-recorded commercial compact cassettes. The former were stamped individually from a press that was imprinted with the analog waveform of the original master tape. The latter were run off in faster-than-real time recording processes often multi-generation of tapes removed from the original master tape. They were often copied on cheap tape stock without Dolby or dbx noise reduction. As a result, most LPs sound better than most pre-recorded commercially manufactured cassettes. On the other hand, the cassette medium CAN have comparable fidelity; BUT ONLY by using a quality 3-head cassette with appropriate adjustments (bias, azimuth, etc.) and a quality tape formulation (type II or type IV) and recording the source in real time with well-set noise reduction. Most folks don't have the equipment or the interest/patience to get the most out of a cassette recording.
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Super informative comment. Thanks for sharing!
@agegroot5666
@agegroot5666 Жыл бұрын
It's so important to use the right tape for your machine and the results will be amazing. Chromium or metal do best. With an automatic Calibration possibility you will get the best result for every cassette.
@ihalloway
@ihalloway 2 жыл бұрын
I always liked the hiss. Thing I did not liked w casettes was you had to constantly flip them or blindy fast frwd them. Now I want to go back to them cause I start to appreciate Albums more and because vinyls and casettes are harder to skip tracks than cd or DAP players, you mentally go in such listening state.
@r7m
@r7m Жыл бұрын
I collect both! Love buying new cassettes and collecting cassette decks
@bletheringfool
@bletheringfool 2 жыл бұрын
For me I always used cassettes. I'm a so called gen x-er. I had some records and some CDs back in the day but I liked to mess around and edit on audio tapes (attempting and failing ) to make Paul Hardcastle style sounds. The recordability of cassettes appealed to me and I also pretended to be a radio DJ playing my tracks commentating on friends playing sports etc. I only gave up cassettes when I had to get rid of bag loads of recorded on blank cassettes when I moved house about 13 years ago. And now I'm slowly getting back into it. Though I actually think mixing analogue cassettes and putting onto my PC to edit is the best of both worlds. Acts as a back up and allows for editing (keeping the analogue sound without filters).
@dennisthebrony2022
@dennisthebrony2022 3 жыл бұрын
When I listen to 80s City Pop, such as Mariya Takeuchi, Junko Ohashi, Anri, Tatsuro Yamashita, and many others, I do have another separate KZbin tab opened, so a hiss can be played in the background, and I also have an Equalizer Chrome Extension and a pitch/speed control extension for KZbin videos, to make the music sound like listening to sound like it's on cassette tape, since it's "80s Japanese Pop." I feel the hiss and that lo-fi sound of cassette tapes fits this music era VERY WELL, compared to Vinyl Crackling, which in my opinion, belongs in an older era than the 70s and 80s. Personality, I simulate the background noise of music format when listening to older music on KZbin based on the era of both the music, and the format. It really enhances the vibe of the era of the music I listen to when it was released on that format ONLY, way before releasing it on CDs.
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 2 жыл бұрын
What a cool idea! I didn't even know that extension existed.
@JamesLee-on1yb
@JamesLee-on1yb Жыл бұрын
I bought three formats over the years
@YouTube4Rudy
@YouTube4Rudy Жыл бұрын
Growing up in the 80s, I had mixed reactions with cassette tapes. Sometimes they would sound amazing and other times like crap. I now know it's because of (1) the formulation of the tape itself, (2) the device and settings that records the tape, (3) the device that plays the tape, (4) the technology behind the tape (eg. Dolby B/C/S, HX-PRO, Digalog, etc.), and (5) the whether the device that plays the tape can take advantage of the encoded technology. The vast majority think tapes are simple. They are not. And that's why I collect cassettes: I'm still learning new things about something I should have known in the past.
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! I appreciate cassettes for sure (I do not collect) but it seems like there are a ton of factors that play into making them sound a certain quality. Which is great for someone who is passionate and really into getting that sound quality, but not necessarily practical for the every day user. Thanks for watching!!
@Abitibidoug
@Abitibidoug 9 ай бұрын
There are cassette tape collectors out there. I heard on the radio about one guy in Kentucky that has a collection of 27,000 cassettes. I have no idea how true that is. Myself I have amassed quite a collection over the years which I still use. They're easy to store and carry, many prerecorded tapes can be bought dirt cheap at yard sales or second hand stores, and they are quite rugged as long as they're kept away from strong magnets. The tape players are also more rugged than CD players.
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 8 ай бұрын
That’s a crazy amount of cassettes!!
@summer20105707
@summer20105707 Жыл бұрын
The argument that cassettes didn't sound as good as 8 tracks doesn't sound right to me. While it's true that cassete decks with Dolby were expensive over the years the price fell dramatically. In 1993 I bought a nice Kenwood dual tape deck for about $150. A very reasonable price. And I still have some of the recordings I made it to this day. If I've said it once I've said it a million times. A good recording needs 3 things. 1. The knowledge to make a decent recording. 2. A decent quality tape. 3. A decent deck. Unlike 8 tracks a cassette won't interrupt your song to change channels. And cassettes are making a comeback.
@urphakeandgey6308
@urphakeandgey6308 3 ай бұрын
I think cassettes get bashed on for sounding bad because the average person probably wasn't taking great care of them. Even if the tapes just sat in a car, temperature changes throughout the days/months/years would slowly mess it up. Vinyl records rarely left the house compared to tapes, so they were probably cared for better. And that's not even talking about all the poor quality tapes and bad recordings people would've made as amateurs.
@musclecarfan74
@musclecarfan74 2 жыл бұрын
I had my cassette phase from about 1987-1993, than I switched to vinyl.
@urphakeandgey6308
@urphakeandgey6308 3 ай бұрын
No one collects cassettes because they don't make for good hipster home decor. A wall of records is more aesthetic than a wall of tapes. Obviously vinyl has gotten popular for other reasons, but I'd wager a large portion of the demand is at least partially because of what I just said.
@legitwaffal
@legitwaffal 3 жыл бұрын
:) the local thrift store sells cassettes for 3/$1! After repairing my dads old Nakamichi Cassette Deck 2, I’ve been having a blast finding old cassettes at the thrift stores. I was very surprised by the quality that old higher-end decks can reproduce! Nothing like the boom boxes and car cassette decks I grew up on. I enjoy ripping my fresh vinyls onto a new old stock high end tape (usually type II, but some of my favorites get the type IV treatment). So I have a pretty bad ass old record collection, and many have only seen the needle one time! Cassettes are dope man, I hope they’re here to stay.
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Great comment. Thanks for watching!
@duochannel256
@duochannel256 3 жыл бұрын
There's hiss on vinyl as well though ... EVERY analogue format degrades over time. Aside from that amazing video !
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 3 жыл бұрын
For sure! Thanks for bringing that up. From what I gathered in my research, sooo many people tend to cite "tape hiss" as a reason to NOT collect tape, but I don't think I saw it mentioned once as a reason to not collect vinyl. So weird!
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 3 жыл бұрын
oh, and thank you! (:
@duochannel256
@duochannel256 3 жыл бұрын
@@MusicTheoriesChannel Vinyl lovers are a little overprotective sometimes haha I would know lol I'm a sound engineer and can assure you that there is hiss in vinyl recordings as well and have audio clips to prove it. Amazing video btw keep it up :)
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 3 жыл бұрын
@@duochannel256 Awesome! I'm certainly not a sound engineer, but have definitely heard it myself as well. Thanks for watching!
@jesserussell7242
@jesserussell7242 Жыл бұрын
I love collecting cassettes cassettes are really awesome and I love collecting vinyl and CDs there is nothing like holding onto something physical the artwork the music everything and I love the warm sound of vinyl and turning up the volume and hearing that snap crackle pop I also love hearing the hits on the cassette tape it’s very authentic I grew up on cassette tapes and I got into CDs and I got into vinyl records my new favorite record now it’s 78th and they’re really fantastic even though they’re made out of shellac but I think that should have a huge come back and I wanna do my part to make sure that it happens even blank blank cassette tapes are awesome I love recording them especially the 120 minute ones.
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@tempsemaj1324
@tempsemaj1324 3 жыл бұрын
Woah, great video! Saw in recommended and after watching shocked to see how many subs u have (Id thought you'd be a big channel like techmoan). Definitely subbing and I recently started collecting cassettes in the past 3 months, up to about 60 rn because how cheap they are that's why I started buying them. Also going into record stores some good albums will just sit there because not a lot of people are looking for cassettes which makes it better for me lol.
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 3 жыл бұрын
What an amazing compliment! Thank you so much for the support. I'll be uploading again very soon (: I actually have also picked up a few cassettes since making this video and I was shocked at how many amazing albums I could find for $3 and under...I couldn't agree more!
@Spazza42
@Spazza42 8 ай бұрын
Reasons why I collect Vinyl: 1. Ownership - In a world that’s moving towards rented access for everything, it’s nice to own something for a change again. 2. Mastering Quality - Vinyl prints haven’t succumbed to the loudness war/dynamic compression problem. This is where the sound quality arguments come from, all modern Vinyls start as digital masters so the analog argument is moot, they’re simpler balanced better and avoid compression clipping. Ownership is a massive reason people have jumped back on the bandwagon for physical media, a lot of people are tired of every company moving to monthly subscriptions whether they realise it or not.
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 7 ай бұрын
Good point!
@febed01
@febed01 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video :) I don't know how I would see the cassette if I was young nowadays, but with my user experience from vinyls, cassettes, CD, MD, and smartphones, I find cassettes to have features still relevant today, including the infamous tape hiss if you're ASMR-sensitive ;) [note : I still use my phone most of the time, which is a bit of a shame actually because it means I became lazy ;) ] Of course I'm not saying cassettes are the one and only "grail medium" but it can be a good option to consider if you're curious or, like me, enjoy the fun of interacting with it. Depending on the hardware, sound quality can be very good, not bad enough to be a problem today, especially given the built quality of default earphones you get with most devices XD. Some hardware not easily affordable in the past are today (excluding really iconic devices suffering from grotesque speculation on eBay) and we can get better sound quality now (but don't use USB walkmans for quality ^^). It's a resilient medium, as even when part of the tape is eaten you can still repair it (with just scissors and adhesive tape) and limit the disaster. Scratches on the surface are less likely to happen than on a CD and what you'll lose with age is basically frequency range, but you'll still be able to read the media, even if the quality went bad. Scratches on a CD or vinyl are less forgiving, and a data error on a file can make the entire track unreadable more easily. And hard disc disaster *does* exists (and as we witnessed a few monthes ago, even datacenters *do* burn down). Something to consider too is the durability of the players/recorders, portable cassette units usually runs with standard AA our AAA batteries, and models using a gumstick battery by default have a battery adaptor included, so more freedom on power supply. That said, belts and capacitors are a weak point. Also, operations are easy, and no buttons get locked for the amount of time required by unwanted ads. And no privacy data mining :) Oh, and they even work without network ! Hardware buttons (on most walkmans) are usually recognisable by touch and you can operate the device with a minimal loss of focus.
@albert71292
@albert71292 3 жыл бұрын
I was buying music when both LPs and cassettes were "in fashion". The very few store bought pre-recorded cassettes I bought back then were inferior in quality to the LP records. I had much better luck buying the LP and transferring it to a high grade blank cassette, and using that copy for "portability". As a result of my making copies, most of the original vinyl I bought back then is still in near "pristine" condition. Yes, I still have every LP I ever bought, close to 600. Made the switch to compact discs in the mid 1980's, since it was before the days of duplicating a CD directly, I made cassette copies of those also.
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 3 жыл бұрын
wow! close to 600 records is very impressive!
@stuart1409
@stuart1409 2 жыл бұрын
I’m selling my vinyl to afford my new cassette tape collecting addiction
@back2the80sradio
@back2the80sradio Жыл бұрын
I still use cassettes on a high-quality player. Let me tell you when people listen to them, they always tell me that the quality is better than streaming. Use quality cassettes and a quality player, and you'll have a quality listening experience.
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your input! I'd love to have a quality deck someday and be able to access that quality sound you're talking about. Unfortunately, even though streaming can be a decrease in audio quality, its, overall, more accessible to the everyday listener.
@why-why-whywhywhy
@why-why-whywhywhy 3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t the slightest clue. But as a very modest “collector” of them myself (personally owning about 150 & counting) I selfishly pray the pattern of less people thinking about jumping back on the ‘cassette’ bandwagon continues. 😉
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 3 жыл бұрын
haha agreed!
@randomcow505
@randomcow505 Жыл бұрын
I started getting into casettes for a few reasons the first one was the feel, more complex than just throwing a song up on youtube, so you actualy want to listen to the music you have gone thru the effort of putting on, but also less delicate than records, you dont have to baby them. Second is the ability to tinker, but no requirement to, you can spend ages fucking about with settings and tape types, and stuff like that, or you can just stick something on and listen to it and its going to sound great either way third was the ability to record and rerecord your own stuff, unlike with records, so I can just record my own playlists onto tape, and dont have to worry about it being interupted, or internet issues, or ads, or anything. Tape goes in, music I want goes on with no bullshit.
@Jordan-fn5rj
@Jordan-fn5rj Жыл бұрын
why don’t people just use their damn phones for music why you gotta put music on a tape or a record?
@randomcow505
@randomcow505 Жыл бұрын
@@Jordan-fn5rj why do some people drive sports cars and not just get a fuel efficient nisan or something, gets you the same place in the same amount of time because its fun, or different same reason people do anything past basic human needs
@Jordan-fn5rj
@Jordan-fn5rj Жыл бұрын
@@randomcow505 still dvd cds bluray is better
@randomcow505
@randomcow505 Жыл бұрын
@@Jordan-fn5rj yea dude but a CD collection pulls way less daddy issue slash than a record collection does
@robertlakay88
@robertlakay88 2 жыл бұрын
The cons of cassettes are endless. Don't forget how the track listings of albums were always in a random order to fit all the songs on the tape. Nothing like your favourite album being jumbled up.
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 2 жыл бұрын
imagine that!
@stevemartell8834
@stevemartell8834 Жыл бұрын
This isn’t true.
@Iamveryconfusedabout
@Iamveryconfusedabout 3 жыл бұрын
this is a great video ! although the point about the tape lifespan being 30 years isn't exactly accurate, I personally have a tape from 1979-ish that still plays fine and even sounds pretty good, and I've heard lots of other similar experiences with old tapes. I believe there's even a vwestlife video actually testing it
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@titansfable5575
@titansfable5575 3 жыл бұрын
I have vinyl to look at and i use cassettes to acually listin too haha
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Haha awesome! Best of both worlds 🤣
@Scudmaster11
@Scudmaster11 3 жыл бұрын
The hissing of the tape... I know I'm from 2004 but I miss it
@NeedleDropRules
@NeedleDropRules Жыл бұрын
Cassettes can be fantastic. Their drawbacks are very similar to vinyl records, where the quality of the recording and the equipment they're being played on can make a huge difference. The cheaper your equipment, the worse overall listening experience you'll have. Each time you upgrade your equipment and speakers, you'll almost always hear the improvement in sound. In order to get the best possible playback equipment, you usually have to go vintage, and most affordable cassette decks just don't come close to the decks made in it's heyday. There are, however, many great options available for turntables and styli. The other factor is the quality of the tape itself. Music can shine on cassette when recorded properly on high bias Chrome and Metal tapes, while having drawbacks in audio quality when recorded on standard bias tapes. And unfortunately, you can't buy high bias cassettes brand new anymore, only the standard tape. I still love recording onto cassettes from my record collection like I did when I was a kid. And I fortunately kept all of my blank high bias tapes, and have a great 1978 Pioneer CT-F700 deck to play them on, so everything sounds really good. However, in my opinion, cassettes will never have a revival like the vinyl record has until the consumer level equipment and the quality of recording tape improves.
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel Жыл бұрын
Great comment - thanks for sharing!
@michaelc.antonino4740
@michaelc.antonino4740 3 жыл бұрын
I'm assuming you don't want to take up the space and spend the cash (which I totally respect). If you thrift a lot you should (I hate telling others to "should" btw) grab a cassette boombox or even a deck (which is the way better option IMO) to test whether or not you think they hold up. I really did love how professional you sounded when you said something about finding the right facility to test the theory. This video rocks by the way.
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 3 жыл бұрын
I actually almost bought a tape deck at a thrift store a few weeks ago! I am definitely considering purchasing one at some point. Are you into tapes and, if so, do you have any player recommendations or tips for what I should be looking for when thrifting? Thank you so much for watching as well (:
@jmi5969
@jmi5969 3 жыл бұрын
@@MusicTheoriesChannel May I throw in two conflicting considerations on cassette decks... 1. Seek the best engineering: top-of-the-line models, or something not-so-top-of-the-line from the "precious three" (Nakamichi, Studer, Tandberg). Oh well, Studer was only making TOTL decks, so it's down to Nak and Tandberg. 2. Seek the best mechanical condition. In the long run, a well-kept, low-mileage "average" deck may be a wiser choice. In my case, the absolutely best (and not that expensive) choice was a rebuilt Revox B215 bought from a trusted guy who rebuilds them for a living. A rare combination of both points above.
@Thanson199415
@Thanson199415 3 жыл бұрын
One of my cassette decks (Yamaha K-520) is able to skip tracks like a cd. You still have to wait for it to fast forward but it's much more convenient as you just hit "next" and it does the rest.
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 3 жыл бұрын
wow! super cool
@jimb032
@jimb032 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Technics deck that you can program like a CD.
@isaiahduran1094
@isaiahduran1094 3 жыл бұрын
Love cassettes, not as much vinyl but that certainly wont stop me from collecting them
@evilkabab
@evilkabab 8 ай бұрын
LP isn't portable home use only. For high mobile lifestyle you need cassette, CD and so on...
@StephenFinkNRP
@StephenFinkNRP 6 ай бұрын
I've been collecting Vinyl, Cassettes and 8-Tracks.
@firstnamenonapplicable5138
@firstnamenonapplicable5138 Жыл бұрын
One thing about vinyl is the fact that you can't just write and rewrite over them, unlike casettes. This makes them less versatile but it makes them feel more permanent
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel Жыл бұрын
This is a good point!
@benjamincloutier8270
@benjamincloutier8270 2 ай бұрын
I just love to pull an album out of my shelves putting them on and just hearing that little thump as the music starts
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 16 күн бұрын
There's just something about it!
@edwincancelii2917
@edwincancelii2917 2 жыл бұрын
I collect both vinyl records & cd’s.
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool!
@sadgirl_fishi
@sadgirl_fishi 10 ай бұрын
I like cassettes because they're so small and they're also satisfying to put in the machine and play.
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 10 ай бұрын
There is definitely something satisfying about it!
@konigeurichderwestgoten4460
@konigeurichderwestgoten4460 9 ай бұрын
I’m twenty-six. I grew up driving old trucks with cassette players. And I liked the look of boomboxes. And the argument of vinyl vs digital piqued my interest. Cd makes me feel distant from the music. I cannot really immerse myself in it. Constantly adjusting the volume or skipping over songs. Same for when I’m listening to music on the iPhone. I feel irritated and tired after a few songs. Vinyl does have those added layers and nice sound quality, but in my personal opinion, it doesn’t have the power- the rawness that a cassette in a quality boombox possesses. Less cumbersome than a round-table too. All I gotta do is reach out from my bed to my radio on the nightstand to adjust settings.
@hey_aussin
@hey_aussin 3 жыл бұрын
I think what truly holds back cassette collecting and usage is the lack of quality playback hardware. There is not enough financial incentive (or potentially know-how) to create high quality cassette mechanisms that companies can use to create good players. Sony and many other manufacturers who might have the patents to create excellent decks or portable stereos aren't making them anymore, so you end up with the same low quality players using the same bare bones mechanisms that sound terrible. It's hard to recommend that someone get on eBay and learn all about 30 year old decks, take chances that they will be broken, find local repair shops if any, and spend hundreds of dollars in the process. I have 4 vintage cassette decks. 1 is non functional and i'm not going to invest in it. The other three are excellent and i'm spreading the wear and tear out between the three of them. I have 4 walkmen, 2 of which are barely functional, 1 is decent, 1 is good, and two small cheap boomboxes which are barely hanging in there. All in that was probably $600-$700 including repairs and audio cables. So it's a big investment that is not going to catch fire unless a large electronics company with the know-how to create good players decides to mass produce the Walkman again.
@hey_aussin
@hey_aussin 3 жыл бұрын
That said, the cassette is the anti-thesis to the disposable, you-actually-own-nothing digital streaming world we have today. You can take any audio source whatsover and create a mixtape. I can capture a cover of a song on KZbin with 200 views and keep it forever, whether that video stays up or not. We can scoop up the ephemeral "content" of the internet and hold it in our hands in a physical object that will continue to sound great for 30-50 years.
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic points!! Thank you for commenting
@silhouettoofaman2935
@silhouettoofaman2935 11 ай бұрын
As a thrifty music collector myself, I tend to stray from the cassette shelves. Varying degrees of quality is a constant on the secondhand market, I'm well aware; but with CDs and vinyl you can usually detect signs of wear fairly easily, be it scratches, dirt, etc. Such is not the case for tapes, unless you look at it with microscopic vision. This, combined with their general flimsiness and natural degradation, makes me wary of touching a cassette with anything less than a 10-foot pole.
@bradfordlewis9765
@bradfordlewis9765 2 жыл бұрын
I don't expect cassettes to ever overtake vinyl as the preferred music medium, but I do expect them to come back in stronger numbers than CD's eventually. I predict vinyl will never totally die out and that cassettes will make up for lost time while CD's will suffer a slow eternal death that the cassettes appeared to be headed for initially. And tape hiss, which can usually be made to disappear if one knows how to do it, will have little or no effect on cassettes becoming popular again. Vinyl will never disappear, cassettes will be as strong as ever by 2025, and CD's will disappear for good by 2030.
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel Жыл бұрын
An interesting thought! I wonder what the future holds
@bobseeee
@bobseeee Жыл бұрын
I collect all of them. Some albums fit with cassettes better (2 - Mac Demarco) and some fit cds better (Ok Computer - Radiohead) some vinyl (To Pimp a Butterfly - Kendrick Lamar)
@HallyPorter
@HallyPorter Жыл бұрын
I have over 22,000 cassettes, and have heard about half of them, all the way through. For over 30 years, collecting and listening has provided me an affordable and fulfilling pastime. In the early point of collecting- the first 500 or so- there could have been a switch to CD's however they were more expensive and remained so long after. A transient lifestyle made vinyl not a secure choice. I find that people who overly obsess about audio quality often don't open their ears up to noisier sounds and tend to think along binary, conservative terms, it's either good or bad music. It's not that the things they like are necessarily boring, but they often value safe, sanitized music, to fit their hi-fi safe, sanitized listening experience. Pop culture creating singing competitions has only furthered this narrow-mindedness. Not every tape I own even plays well; some are over 50 years old, and do play reasonably well. But, this format is quickly as it becomes obsolete due to the lack of decent players, taking on the curiousity of an historical artifact. At the same time I've transitioned from focusing on having more tapes than anyone, to having the best and rarest tapes- demos, promos, limited runs of odd things- and because it's music, it's enjoyed as such- but there's also the thrill of the hunt. Finding the cassette. Winning the auction. Seeing that it's shipped, and tracking the package. Opening the package. Finally listening to the music. And finally filing the tape into its new home. Every step of this releases some sort of dopamine for me, I'm sure. Now, most people will never have anything like this collection as it spans the fading of the format in the late 90's to its resurgence in the mid 2000's. Still there may be value for some particularly those who gave their collections away 25 years ago seeking nostalgia, or even their curious kids who might want to know what that last generation before computers was all about. To hear the cartridge slide into the door, close the door and push play (rewinding if needed.) I would pay no mind to those who simply judge an audio experience to be good or bad based on fidelity. That might be true for you too, but if you're like me and it's not, don't miss out on a different way to enjoy music. As for my collection, it's my dream to retire it as a listening experience in order to prevent covetous individuals who would be out to make money off of it, and instead have it join a museum of 20th century music formats, where in a large block form, thousands of titles can be displayed on a wall- not unlike the large record stores from which many of them were purchased.
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel Жыл бұрын
Wow! Super impressive. Thank you so much for sharing.
@HallyPorter
@HallyPorter Жыл бұрын
@@MusicTheoriesChannel Thank you for reading all that.
@johnlomasney7632
@johnlomasney7632 2 жыл бұрын
love tape and vinyl
@spacebarbus
@spacebarbus 2 жыл бұрын
You also forget to add reel to reel half inch tape that was available before compact cassettes..I've been collecting these over the last 30 years and they sound magnificent...low noise floor and of you use a high end tape machine to run them they really do give vinyl a run for their money.
@cassette_decks_and_turntables
@cassette_decks_and_turntables 3 жыл бұрын
A good 3 head deck can record even a decent type 1 cassette sound identical with the source. Cassettes are underappreciated because people bought cheap decks and cheap cassettes and that's the reason why they think that cassettes don't sound good.
@MusicTheoriesChannel
@MusicTheoriesChannel 2 жыл бұрын
this seems to be the consensus!
@IloveHamberger
@IloveHamberger 3 жыл бұрын
30 years? Hope my original tape of dark side of the moon and saturday night fever continue to play
@jasonwilliams6005
@jasonwilliams6005 Жыл бұрын
And will for many years. 30 years is a joke
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