Why don't some of the Enlightened ones Come out to Help?

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Jijnasu

Jijnasu

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This is a question that is often asked, as to why some of the spiritual masters remain in solitude, and not come out in the society to guide and help the larger population. But how do we know they are not helping?
Maitri Milan session at SVYASA (Prashanti Kuteeram) on 29 June 2017

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@Jijnasu
@Jijnasu Жыл бұрын
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@Bassywassy20
@Bassywassy20 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not Enlightened (yet) but even dealing with people in an aware way you'll find plenty of reasons to not get involved actively: 1. A person who's ready to Seek will somehow find a way to find their best tool for spiritual practice (including a teacher) by themselves. 2. The majority of the population is simply not ready. A wise one realizes that their presence can cause both awareness and chaos. 3. A teacher cannot pull someone into awareness. The most difficult parts are still done alone by the student and require great intent to grow. 4. I personally think having more enlightened teachers in a society that doesnt care or see the wisdom in their actions or words is pointless. 5. An enlightened being doesnt follow manmade ideas of how to improve something. Theyll follow their hearts/universes guidance and because of this theyll always be exactly they need to be even if no one understands why (but he kind of said this in the video). Lastly, people who ask the question why Enlightened teachers dont come out to teach ARE the problem. They want to rely on another to find inner peace. In (most) cases the difference between an Enlightened being and a follower is that an (not yet) Enlightened being at some point starts trusting his own inner tools and guidance, whereas most students are still looking for solutions outside themselves (like teachers).
@mehtunnisakhan3734
@mehtunnisakhan3734 2 жыл бұрын
An enlightened persons Powets are very POWERFULL' I have & experiencing this myself at present ,ongoing at the age of over 70 yrs of age.I was not aware of this but people around brought this to my knoweledge,Ameen. For one thing I am aware of is "I am Spiritual" Ameen.Mehrunnisa
@gofar5185
@gofar5185 3 жыл бұрын
very true... "how do we know they are not helping"...
@mohamedladhaladha7997
@mohamedladhaladha7997 6 жыл бұрын
When your life and its energy are in balance nothing much will upset you.The earth becomes your friend,action,reaction resound becomes good.You see good,be good and do good.
@alandunlap4106
@alandunlap4106 4 жыл бұрын
We're all enlightened but we're pretending we're not. "What is the difference between the enlightened and the unenlightened? The unenlightened see a difference." -- Ramana Maharshi
@suraya4768
@suraya4768 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this talk, it makes something very clear for me, very helpful.
@missmiss6969
@missmiss6969 3 жыл бұрын
How true you are sir; We all need to be awakened in Australia today it’s beautiful; this is the message from the (DREAM TIME)
@drrupalmohan231
@drrupalmohan231 5 жыл бұрын
You are wonderful🙏. Thank you very much
@vandanakumar7298
@vandanakumar7298 5 жыл бұрын
This video has answered a few of my questions very effectively. The words are very simple and clear. superb.
@drvbcchikanargund3823
@drvbcchikanargund3823 3 жыл бұрын
Enlightened people must teach others. Dr.V.B.Chikkanaragund
@varunkolanu
@varunkolanu 3 жыл бұрын
@@drvbcchikanargund3823 Yes but if a deserved student reaches him... Because, if he go out to preach, many see him as a time waster... And may try to insult teacher.... So it is best to teach only for interested candidates
@tejashpatel9490
@tejashpatel9490 6 жыл бұрын
Love to help others, 🙏🏽 but their ego is 2 big, and they don’t want to listen. May Krishna bless them all. 🙏🏽
@bryanleovy7273
@bryanleovy7273 6 жыл бұрын
tejash patel have you listened lately?
@AK-kb5wl
@AK-kb5wl 6 жыл бұрын
Completely agree with you, sir.
@menonksa
@menonksa 3 жыл бұрын
If you love to help just DO it ...looking at their ego and attitude will make you a business man not a helping person 🙏🏽
@NikhiLPandargE300597
@NikhiLPandargE300597 7 жыл бұрын
thanx for uploding video ...keep uploading ...!! i get too much from it
@Swilton100
@Swilton100 6 жыл бұрын
Nice share these things, this made sense to me in a couple of ways I hadn't looked at in that way before. awesome. Thank You.
@rajlaxminaidu2859
@rajlaxminaidu2859 5 жыл бұрын
O m g.....u r natural and fresh air..... maharishi tm.....Ramana maharishi...... Hawaii......and science delusions...... very convincing..... thanks dude....🤩
@chintamanivivek
@chintamanivivek 4 жыл бұрын
It takes time to prepare and start teaching
@coconutmilch2351
@coconutmilch2351 6 жыл бұрын
i love this i love this thank u for posting
@user-lk8rq6to9f
@user-lk8rq6to9f 3 жыл бұрын
Teacher will come when the student is ready
@jyothivedantan7030
@jyothivedantan7030 6 жыл бұрын
Prajapita Brahmakumaris Ishwariya Vishwa vidyalaya is teaching Raja yoga meditation & Sadguru is teaching inner engineering.Both are same & anyone can learn from them.This is enlightenment.
@buddhaneosiddhananda8499
@buddhaneosiddhananda8499 3 жыл бұрын
"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear..."
@gofar5185
@gofar5185 3 жыл бұрын
kindly input english subtitles... thank you...
@satyadiwakar6614
@satyadiwakar6614 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Bhaiya, for this beautiful insights which stresses upon individual improvements and evolution . what lovely explanations askings all of us to help ourselves before we reach out to the world. :)
@swapnilkumeriya8216
@swapnilkumeriya8216 Жыл бұрын
Gurujii❤
@drrupalmohan231
@drrupalmohan231 5 жыл бұрын
You are good n simple in words
@krishnakaundinyadesaraju8660
@krishnakaundinyadesaraju8660 7 жыл бұрын
Even that fly wants to listen and practise and attain Moksha/Self Realization :p
@trishanuray3833
@trishanuray3833 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. This will take me closer to what I want to know.
@1mrvalentino
@1mrvalentino 6 жыл бұрын
Try helping urself if fail ask for guidance and power to overcome ull find a way without effort nothing comes r happens finally its u what matters everybody is on own eat fruit of ur karma
@brahmanlewis3022
@brahmanlewis3022 3 жыл бұрын
Yes sathya sai baba came out and helped everyone. He built schools and hospitals for the people. The rest have been very quiet. 🤔
@amolkale2140
@amolkale2140 5 жыл бұрын
Why have you stopped uploading videos
@beehumming9664
@beehumming9664 6 жыл бұрын
Very very nice and thankyou😊👌💐
@furlockfurli2719
@furlockfurli2719 6 жыл бұрын
To empower ourselves. With all my respects, the verb "to empower" should not be used, as it is based on the binary structure of the system. Like "understanding", and again with all my respects, I do not and will not stand under anything or anybody. I have always asked myself why so wonderful people still use these words. They should know, as I, an endarkened, have clearly innerstood. Kindest regards, M.
@jawaharize
@jawaharize 6 жыл бұрын
there are no others -ramana maharishi
@bryanleovy7273
@bryanleovy7273 6 жыл бұрын
Yes yes and Papaji, Robert Adams, mooji, and many others of Ramana Maharshi devotees.
@mrgruffy4499
@mrgruffy4499 4 жыл бұрын
Simple answer: We try to. But others just won't have what we are trying to teach. This is due to their "mind set ' of erroneous beliefs which they refuse to give up. A possible response from the unenlightened: "I've never heard of that before." Of course, one hasn't heard of different concepts. What you say must fit their paradigm of beliefs. Otherwise, what you say will be rejected as not being "normal". I can't see how the unenlightened can be helped until they realize that most of what they believe came from the ignorance of others. Most of what we were taught are lies. Not intentional lies, but beliefs passed on from past generations.
@janettaschuch3591
@janettaschuch3591 5 жыл бұрын
Ever heard of Sadhguru? There have been many previous two of which I personally had contact with in this lifetime. The rule is if you manage to come before or contact the Enlightened then they will teach you. If you have made up your mind there is no such thing then you cannot come before them. The result is that, for you, there is no such thing.
@Jijnasu
@Jijnasu 5 жыл бұрын
Well, I am a fulltme volunteer at Isha center since one year. ;-) So much more has happened than "hearing about" him. The talk did not say that ALL enlightened people do not come out. The point is when they do not (and most of them do not), it is not correct to say they are not helping. I thought the essence of the talk was quite clear. I am sorry if it is not. Sadhguru has himself talked about it in Mystic's Musings and in various talks. Most of them do not come out and live in solitude. He said something like "Only a few shamelessly come out to public and say it in open" (for various reasons)
@tim57243
@tim57243 5 жыл бұрын
Can anyone give a pointer to the TM Crime in DC journal article that isn't paywalled? The paywalled version is here: www.jstor.org/stable/27522387 Looking at crime statistics for DC mpdc.dc.gov/page/district-crime-data-glance I see yearly numbers for sex abuse going down 32% 2018 vs 2019 and homicides going up 38% 2017 vs 2018. So I find it hard to believe that the probability of a two month average crime rate going down 23% is 2E-9. Even the second chart in this summary www.worldpeacegroup.org/washington_crime_prevention_full_article.html has a fluctuation on 1993-05-15 when the experiment was not in progress that looks about as large as what was observed during the experiment on 1993-07-17. Also, the first chart there disagrees with the second chart. The first chart has a consistent decrease starting in the first week. The second chart has actual crime more than the predicted crime on 1993-06-19. The previous week was during the experiment, and had a lower crime rate than 06-19 both absolutely and relative to the prediction.
@redwing1067
@redwing1067 6 жыл бұрын
TM changed the small US town where the Maharisi built his school. The peace is palpable - this is what non meditators say.
@GonG108
@GonG108 6 жыл бұрын
I agree 1000 % to that
@kkst3552
@kkst3552 2 ай бұрын
If suffering is illusionary and god is perfect and existence is perfect then help is impossible. You can not help perfect.
@galinakondratenko5400
@galinakondratenko5400 2 жыл бұрын
By simple beeng Self-realised, just by breathing they give greate help to humanity. Like one Self-realised phisicly placed in war zonevstop war. Zones where war are zones where not one Self realised lives. Yes, they helping others constantly. By their presence
@lynetteallpress8079
@lynetteallpress8079 6 жыл бұрын
No one can teach you your truth. Their enlightenment is their truth not yours.
@kellycarr2885
@kellycarr2885 6 жыл бұрын
However I believe enlightened people share to demonstrate that it is a possibility within us all.
@janettaschuch3591
@janettaschuch3591 5 жыл бұрын
You speak like a Troll here. They can teach you Truths & you desperately need to learn them. Truths are neither yours nor someone else's. If you learn a Truth then say it is yours you are incorrect & still egotistic.
@FaithfulDevin74
@FaithfulDevin74 5 жыл бұрын
@@kellycarr2885 although they seem arrogant , they are old souls which are hear to show another side and an option for beings. A deep truth within everything
@szolanek
@szolanek 6 жыл бұрын
Meditation reduces crime? Surely, why not. *** I was enlightened once and it was not well deserved, so I lost it. (only for 3 months). Any other time I travelled and worked in different countries, places. I discovered after time that anywhere I moved the place was raised significantly. The local sport teams won championships after decades a l w a y s, any company I worked for experienced sharp growt in revenues, evil minded people left the place within months. I crashed informal powers on regular base. Everybody gained around me always, except me. Boring.
@bryanleovy7273
@bryanleovy7273 6 жыл бұрын
szolanek Once you've reached Self Realization it's Permanent you probably just had a wonderful experience.
@rajlaxminaidu2859
@rajlaxminaidu2859 5 жыл бұрын
V r in the same boat....
@janettaschuch3591
@janettaschuch3591 5 жыл бұрын
-- you did not gain enlightenment. It is the entire opposite of boredom.
@FaithfulDevin74
@FaithfulDevin74 5 жыл бұрын
@@janettaschuch3591 you are enveloped not in your surroundings, WITH IT. For you are part of the formless nature of adaptation and evolution. This system of greed will destroy itself and only itself. Destiny is unfolding itself from the veil of perceptions to the objective reality
@anonanonymous7048
@anonanonymous7048 6 жыл бұрын
I apologise I always thought they looked like a burden to society chanting all day, sitting around talking all day, while others have to carry out double the work load, a burden to woman, since woman support temples and churches more, to sustain these monks, as well as themselves. Thanks for the understanding.
@ddesign6937
@ddesign6937 5 жыл бұрын
Namo jinanamm
@HinduHeritage
@HinduHeritage 6 жыл бұрын
Good speech
@rajoshkumarpt4465
@rajoshkumarpt4465 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot
@bryanleovy7273
@bryanleovy7273 6 жыл бұрын
Many others have. Robert Adams, Papaji, Mooji.
@danielboomers
@danielboomers 3 жыл бұрын
their egos drove them out... never been really enlightened at all...
@harshaunknown
@harshaunknown 6 жыл бұрын
Who s the speaker?
@srinivaslic32
@srinivaslic32 6 жыл бұрын
Jijnasu vasudeva Former professior from Svyasa yoga university banglore and now Isha yoga Coambattore .His lectures are very simple language and with catchy examples .Most video are on Bhagvathgitha and Pathanjali yoga sutras very very intresting .
@saisathyakrishna3312
@saisathyakrishna3312 5 жыл бұрын
Help is a sin according to your theory this is utter selfishness then what about JANA seva Janardhan seva, Manava seva is madava seva
@sunnysingh3690
@sunnysingh3690 6 жыл бұрын
i dont want to be rude but at 5:27 just turn on the subtitles . your welcome.
@titanworld1401
@titanworld1401 5 жыл бұрын
99.9 % will us the enlightened being for blessings to be rich, promotion, me first etc. see nothing for others. See no further human is full of pride, Jealousy, desire, greed, ignorance and hatred. All these are delusions, causes endless suffering mind, body and sprite. Attachment is the root cause. Even if the enlightened being is presence in the form of human, there will still be great Jealousy and ego why he or she is an enlightened being and not me, not I and not myself. Even enlightened being will not be truly welcome.
@ABCDEF-rp3zq
@ABCDEF-rp3zq 6 жыл бұрын
Yes i cN answer you what you know about enligntned beingTbey are the persons who knows that everything us in this universe is coneected to each other so on that base they know everything is one this is what called prkrii And in this universe there is nothing that is permanent Everything is temprory.they used to find what is the real self of themselves and on that journey they know the truths of creation , Body or mind They know their real self Atman which never changes it is always same beyond five elements air water fire Space and earthit cannot change and it is Witness of everything this is why they Remain still same even anything bad or good happening to them or to anyone another But those wordly people who beleive we are this body May suffer because of bodily pains and get pleasure because of some bodily needs those who belive they are mind Try to rule everyone by their intellect know what you belive and find you realself this is the answer to your question
@annaosentoski658
@annaosentoski658 6 жыл бұрын
BCAUSE we are waiting for the one sign from GOD FIRST. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE PRETTY EITHER.
@sourcetext
@sourcetext 2 жыл бұрын
From the ancient wise men. You are not the body and mind you are Eternal Spirit trapped in the body, you have forgotten over many incarnations. The Matrix is your own bio computer Virtual Reality point of view machine that keeps You in the illusion of being a physical Being in a physical world via the nervous system and the five senses.( the Fallen Angel metaphor) Meditation is putting the body and mind to sleep but staying separate and Awake and Alert inside until you EXPERIENCE yourself as Eternal Spirit again. If you remain in this state after Meditation its called Nirvana, Samadhi, the Tao , Self Realization Yogananda Cosmic Consciousness Awake as Eternal Spirit again- -Buddha,Virtue - Socrates and the stoic saints, Obtaining the Golden Fleece Greek mythology, Moksha born again Jesus, Prodigal son etc all the same. That is the truth.
@joeyracanelli8352
@joeyracanelli8352 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder if someone who is enlightened could go back to ego
@youthanasia85
@youthanasia85 6 жыл бұрын
Joey Racanelli go back to ego as in kill it in the bud?
@praveennepal19
@praveennepal19 6 жыл бұрын
Yes if they try to become a famous teacher like Buddha its ego. Buddha already said to be Buddha one has to do different things because Buddha has already given the path, someone trying to do the same thing Buddha did will only spoil the teachings of Buddha. To be Buddha means to have no ego. Try going to Vipashyana meditation center to get more information and to help/heal thyself.
@jackclifford6683
@jackclifford6683 6 жыл бұрын
they tend to realise there is no ego to go back to :D
@bryanleovy7273
@bryanleovy7273 6 жыл бұрын
No once Enlightened it's Permanent.
@msr5160
@msr5160 Жыл бұрын
He is logical but not practical. Like these many people particularly one community has spoken.
@danielboomers
@danielboomers 3 жыл бұрын
Why don't some of the Enlightened ones Come out to Help? cos they are not enlightened...lol
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