Why DUAL SPEARS are a PROBLEM - Elden Ring Controversy

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OnlyWaifu

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Elden Ring has many different types of weapons and builds, but one particular type of weapons DOMINATE PvP completely and those are PIERCE DAMAGE WEAPONS. They get TONS of benefits that strike or slash weapons don't get. And double Cross-Naginatas abuses this, making it the PERFECT build.
Today, Ranni teaches you everything about damage types, counter bonus damage, spears and the controversy behind thrusting weapons in PvP.
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@OnlyWaifuYT
@OnlyWaifuYT Жыл бұрын
I know, I know... I forgot about the STANDARD damage type How would you nerf these setups though?
@Lemongrass_gaming
@Lemongrass_gaming Жыл бұрын
Make them hit like a Honda accord instead of a 8x2 truck
@OleandrWhite
@OleandrWhite Жыл бұрын
Remove tracking from pierce attacks like they did in Dark Souls 2. That would be a good tradeoff for having counter damage.
@kam_3953
@kam_3953 Жыл бұрын
Power stance doing half the poise damage. Keep the power but it better kill me when trading otherwise I gonna use hyperarmor
@InsertJokeHere325
@InsertJokeHere325 Жыл бұрын
Make it attack slower
@bweh2150
@bweh2150 Жыл бұрын
Remove every other weapon from the game there is no point to playing anything else if it can't compete so, so simply don't lets players use other things.
@Tackitt
@Tackitt Жыл бұрын
whats sad is if you only equip 1 naginata it has hands down the coolest spear moveset
@Tory-JJ
@Tory-JJ Жыл бұрын
Yep
@cowspoopmagic
@cowspoopmagic Жыл бұрын
Your a true connoisseur ❤ I feel the same, I also do cosplay and I suck. So I'm extra salty
@SwiftyEmpire
@SwiftyEmpire Жыл бұрын
One spear: classy Two spears: barbaric
@vitorvena
@vitorvena Жыл бұрын
And also one of the harder weapons to make use of...
@SwiftyEmpire
@SwiftyEmpire Жыл бұрын
@@vitorvena nah, one spear with like a medium shield is sexy af
@sgtdipaolo
@sgtdipaolo Жыл бұрын
i just use a single Cross-Naginata on a normal/quality build. i like the moveset of it in that version; it's very cool, and fits stylistically with many of the builds i make.
@Elkington7
@Elkington7 Жыл бұрын
In duels, I typically see dual spears, 2h thrusting weapons, greatswords and casters. Rarely ever see the slower stuff, like axes, hammers and colossals. I see shields even less than above.
@sixft_under
@sixft_under Жыл бұрын
From messing around with many weapons in the arena, my guess is bc they're a lot harder to use in a braindead way. To be effective with colossals I gotta break out all my mixups and get tricky with these boys. If you aren't really good you'll just be swinging at air while getting styled on
@NoNono-o3h
@NoNono-o3h Жыл бұрын
I only see a few setups : Dual nagis Spinning slash spam with your nagakiba/BKG/IG Backpeddaling casters that spam moonveil when you get bored Epileptic dual greatspears users (very skilled (real)) The one dude that thinks the frog head is a replacement for a sense of humor Thats all pvp has to offer outside of ganking and bornfire duelists
@prizman1098
@prizman1098 Жыл бұрын
Ultra Greatsword user here, and yes it is true that slower weapon users are few and far between but when I do get to duel another, I will gladly partake in the unga bunga
@mist-hoparcaniner-leobrain6256
@mist-hoparcaniner-leobrain6256 Жыл бұрын
@@NoNono-o3h this lmfao only thing I would add is the serpent hunter abusers that would be scary if they didn't suck
@NoNono-o3h
@NoNono-o3h Жыл бұрын
@@mist-hoparcaniner-leobrain6256 i was thinking of adding it but I've only really seen it used to kill afk farmers
@vitorvena
@vitorvena Жыл бұрын
You know what infuriates me? Its how when one handing/powerstancing long weapons the character completely ignores weight and gravity by holding it by the back end tip instead of ATLEAST TRYING to grip it closer to the middle... this would make sense and as a result nerf the range of one handed spears giving incentive to two hand where yoy would get back that range by having one hand back at the end and the other one closer to the middle allowing the character to fully push the wepon foward during trusting attacks...
@quinnbeasley94
@quinnbeasley94 Жыл бұрын
I used to struggle with dual spear, but reverse bloodhound step into backstab is the ultimate counter to dual spear L1 spammers.
@bringonthevelocirapture
@bringonthevelocirapture Жыл бұрын
Nobody brings it up, but the first, and second, parts of bloodhound finesse can dodge things pretty well. If you time it right, bloodhound finesse can put you directly behind the enemy immediately.
@quinnbeasley94
@quinnbeasley94 Жыл бұрын
@@nathanstoughton kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZoawhKeNl5lro80si=h90yRzv5sFBGmhcr this is the technique I'm talking about
@ZebraOnYourNose
@ZebraOnYourNose Жыл бұрын
I wonder how useful talismans that gave more defense against specific physical damage types would be, like how the drake talismans reduced specific elemental damage. Maybe then pierce attacks wouldn't be such an issue? I dunno
@OtherMomo
@OtherMomo Жыл бұрын
Please stop referring to me as fast food items
@OnlyWaifuYT
@OnlyWaifuYT Жыл бұрын
"Never "
@jedediahhopkins6051
@jedediahhopkins6051 Жыл бұрын
As a PVE only scrub. It’s wild to watch weapons get OP/nerfed in PvP, personally I’m pretty annoyed that my PvE experience gets disrupted because people play like degenerates in PvP.
@grasson3646
@grasson3646 Жыл бұрын
You know it's been a while since From introduced the "pvp exclusive balance adjustements" so that pvers woudn't complain about their favorite L2 stick getting nerfed
@NoNono-o3h
@NoNono-o3h Жыл бұрын
Homie is gonna shit his pants when he discovers most changes are pvp exclusive
@silree7260
@silree7260 Жыл бұрын
my favourite blue doll is back again to step on me
@ktskis1680
@ktskis1680 6 ай бұрын
the best counter is a incantation that makes body have yellow lighting, also dual wield straight swords with lighting infusions and broggart roar on each sword is probably the best weapons for duel , you can swap into the ash of war that gives you poise and deffences for sword period of time on main hand
@gameknight084
@gameknight084 Жыл бұрын
You use the cross naginata because it’s OP. I use the cross naginata to cosplay sword saint Isshin. We are not the same.
@nkirmath8621
@nkirmath8621 Жыл бұрын
I wanna dual poker swords with the main hand being placidusax's sword for the fun of it.
@ThreeAirFilms
@ThreeAirFilms 7 ай бұрын
This is literally everyone’s build at lvl 200 + and then proceed to teabag you when they kill you thinking they got sKilL
@lolimmune
@lolimmune 11 ай бұрын
Um actually, theres also standard damage. Madam.
@rogueog9279
@rogueog9279 3 ай бұрын
Im pretty sure I started this build trend back when elden ring first released. In those times when so many people were running exploits & broken builds this was the counter.
@cover8636
@cover8636 Жыл бұрын
idk why i cant play at colosseum, my level is in metta but the wait time takes 100 hours to find a player :(
@OnlyWaifuYT
@OnlyWaifuYT Жыл бұрын
That's odd... do you play on PC?
@lharsay
@lharsay Жыл бұрын
Have you unlocked all 3 colosseums and are you mainly trying to cue for duels?
@miguelnascimento2847
@miguelnascimento2847 Жыл бұрын
@@OnlyWaifuYT I play on PC and it's rare if it takes more than 10 seconds to find someone to play against
@OnlyWaifuYT
@OnlyWaifuYT Жыл бұрын
Same here@@miguelnascimento2847
@cover8636
@cover8636 Жыл бұрын
@@OnlyWaifuYT i play on ps5
@StoicScape219
@StoicScape219 Жыл бұрын
I might use it in invasions on my bleed build tbh. Every invasion is basically a gank and they teabag you after 🤷‍♂️
@gokublack8342
@gokublack8342 Жыл бұрын
Yes do whatever it takes to make those maidenless scrubs put their foolish ambitions to rest everytime you kill a host you make world a better place 😂
@icebox1954
@icebox1954 Жыл бұрын
True and real.
@Superluminal_30000
@Superluminal_30000 Жыл бұрын
Don't do it.I play with the tongue on full time.Its nice to see a invader who isn't using meta weapons and pointing down after.
@gokublack8342
@gokublack8342 Жыл бұрын
@@Superluminal_30000 You Hosts all try to gank and have the nerve to ask for sportsmanship? XD
@jarlbalgruuf2415
@jarlbalgruuf2415 Жыл бұрын
@@gokublack8342 the obvious implication was that he was playing solo but way to prove his point lmao
@PenguinWithInternetAccess
@PenguinWithInternetAccess Жыл бұрын
Powerstance naginatas poked me so hard I lost my healthbar in real life or some other anime trope idk
@Emilespartanguy
@Emilespartanguy 11 ай бұрын
I used a naginata whit a uchigatana to make a isshin sword saint build
@splenda749
@splenda749 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I feel like Powerstance war spears with madness proc is just a tad more annoying
@Gensolink
@Gensolink Жыл бұрын
it's insane to me how insane counter damage is in PVP while being basically a non factor in PVE. Like the only game that made counter damage more than situationally useful in PVE was DS2 because iirc counter damage applied to every attack type and had wider windows of opportunity. I wouldnt mind seeing this applied to the next from's title but maybe lower the bonus damage. edit : This also just dawned on me but the fact this is basically a legacy mechanic from the old games I think it feels overtuned because it wasnt adjusted to compensate for shit like dual wielding and the overall bigger damage
@conquerorsbladestuff4316
@conquerorsbladestuff4316 6 ай бұрын
0:09 how did you transition from running attack into poke so quickly ?
@user-Goliath-gear2342
@user-Goliath-gear2342 Ай бұрын
I always wondered how you attack with both spears i know you need one spear at each hand but how can you attack with both?
@theblockyrocker9060
@theblockyrocker9060 Жыл бұрын
You may have gotten me with the mt.dew, but I'm a big boy and don't do chicken nuggies... bbq wings are superior anyways.
@VeraTepes
@VeraTepes Жыл бұрын
Funnily Enough. I fought 10 people yesterday, and one of them had Duel Naginata. Out of all 10, the only one I won against was the Duel Naginata. Why am I doomed to constant win against OP crap but can't have a decent fight against normal crap? RoB, I win. Moonveil, I win. Naginata, I win. A simple Tooth Pick Rapier? I lose. Katana? I lose. Magic? I lose. It's odd.
@tking5218
@tking5218 Жыл бұрын
Weren't these banned in PVP tournaments according to some online threads when the game first came out? Miss the old days when people banded together to figure out ways to break broken. This setup is OP but there's ways to break it.
@ktskis1680
@ktskis1680 6 ай бұрын
if they use this you can take crescent halberd with 65 arcane and put dual naginata into slumber
@TheUnkindledTarnished
@TheUnkindledTarnished 2 ай бұрын
Using a certain weapon because it’s good: 🤡 Using a weapon because it’s cool: 🗿
@PNCKDRGN
@PNCKDRGN 7 ай бұрын
I hate the weapon imbalance issues. Like sometimes I just wanna have fun with a weapon that doesn’t work in pvp and play with my friends and then we get invaded and what ever half mashed potato of a weapon I have on at the time usually proves pointless against the pvp build coming at us
@kunknown2340
@kunknown2340 Жыл бұрын
You forgot standard damage 😧
@noirhftam2824
@noirhftam2824 Жыл бұрын
If you can put it off with Prayerful strike, it’s very satisfying
@histhoryk2648
@histhoryk2648 Жыл бұрын
To defeat the stick, bring longer stick -Big Monke
@BoneWalker
@BoneWalker Жыл бұрын
Seems like some pierce weapon is a nightmare in pvp for every souls game.
@ubesfam
@ubesfam Жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t parrying be good against this? I mean if your opponent is spamming one move over and over why not pull out the buckler?
@kodeyPodey
@kodeyPodey Жыл бұрын
Good thing about the average PSS user is they tend to be inflicted with brain rot
@HowlingComet450
@HowlingComet450 Жыл бұрын
Shame that outside dualing them and Naginata on it's own spears are pretty lackluster. Pike at least has a use case. Not even a two handed Heavy Partisan does too great on damage. There's some other ones like Gransaz and Ritual Spear too, but those are uniques and do decent damage. That is not to say you can't use them, they can still be used well enough.
@lordimax399
@lordimax399 Жыл бұрын
I tried double great spears in PvE and had decent success up till Godfrey where i couldn't recover fast enough to dodge some attacks after poking one time
@NoNono-o3h
@NoNono-o3h Жыл бұрын
Quickstep/Bullshit step are incredible recovery cancelers
@lordimax399
@lordimax399 Жыл бұрын
@user-jr3zr2mp9c I was using vyke and mohgs spear so I couldn't put those on and switching weapons was too slow
@BinLaggin47
@BinLaggin47 7 ай бұрын
I’ve been playing blind and ended up using cross naginata and pike dual wielded. Little did I know I was close to using the most broken thing in the game 😅 whoops
@turntapeover5749
@turntapeover5749 5 ай бұрын
Or you know, practice golden parry or carian retaliation cuz thrusting weapons are laughably easy to parry. And then show them the miséricorde hidden in your hand as a token of appreciation.
@vagabondsoul1286
@vagabondsoul1286 Жыл бұрын
You can BHS to backstab pretty safely.
@stephenmcdowell4859
@stephenmcdowell4859 Жыл бұрын
ds3 washing pole running attack wishes it could be this busted
@Numeronius
@Numeronius Жыл бұрын
There are two other ways to counter double naginata that work almost always Since double naginata users tend to be morons or noobs (sometimes both) and its rare for actual pros to use them in duells you can either outsmart or outskill them Trust me it works i've done it like 4 times today with a moonlightsword build
@Javilin447
@Javilin447 Жыл бұрын
Thrusting weapons have always been an issue in Fromsoft games. Estoc spam was pain in DS3 and before that all thrusting moves would hit you through space and time. Not to mention the counter damage from Leo ring. Elden ring repeats the same flaws as before 🥲
@carian_moon
@carian_moon Жыл бұрын
In every Elden Ring PVP players nightmare, they see double Naginata in their sleep. They will always see them.
@icebox1954
@icebox1954 Жыл бұрын
It's easy to deal with if you bait it.
@mist-hoparcaniner-leobrain6256
@mist-hoparcaniner-leobrain6256 Жыл бұрын
its a good setup but not hard to beat imo. My personal nightmare is tanky bois that 2h a 1h thrusting sword and black knife aow on switch which always seems to tag me even if i dodge perfectly
@MRBABABOI4090
@MRBABABOI4090 Жыл бұрын
BUT NOT FOR ME :)
@MekmekLaZ
@MekmekLaZ 4 ай бұрын
@@MRBABABOI4090star fist with bleed+ endure/leveled up arcane plus the bleed talisman(i dont remember the name) And ofc the rot winged,amber medallion+2 and turtle one to recover faster your stamina to catch them when they will be at 1 hp
@UtubeH8tr
@UtubeH8tr Жыл бұрын
I just now realized.... Ranni is drinking a cup of your cerulean tears... Fuck thats good.
@dean7920
@dean7920 Жыл бұрын
the best counter is ALT+F4
@zeno6554
@zeno6554 8 ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnuphIyPbZeBqqs
@opusmagnus26
@opusmagnus26 4 ай бұрын
Nameless White Masks: Are you sure about that? *Dies to Blistered Dog and Crow gank squad*
@vitorvena
@vitorvena Жыл бұрын
I honestly will never understand how they thought it was a good idea to make powerstanced attacks FASTER than normal attacks...
@zytha2890
@zytha2890 Жыл бұрын
They're not. It's the running attack spam. If you try to press l1 you will always lose to a 1 handed r1 if poise isn't affecting anything
@TheTraveler980
@TheTraveler980 Жыл бұрын
​@zytha2890 2:36 Explain this, then.
@vitorvena
@vitorvena Жыл бұрын
@@TheTraveler980 He's not the brightest...
@Troll-king23
@Troll-king23 Жыл бұрын
Only people with no appreciation for the game use double spears. It’s a boring play style also for PvP
@vitorvena
@vitorvena Жыл бұрын
@@Troll-king23 Honestly its just one of the many styles that completely breaks the flow of the fight, other styles can literally no engage in actual fighting or a few ones that remove half of the skillset for engaging by denying you the ability to defend yourself or go on the offensive...
@_Deez
@_Deez Жыл бұрын
When you're listening to the vid at work and the edits are still hilarious even if you can't see them because of the sound effects 😂
@calibula95
@calibula95 Жыл бұрын
*comically loud hand crack*
@_Deez
@_Deez Жыл бұрын
@@calibula95 *massive reverberating fart*
@fakechloe207
@fakechloe207 Жыл бұрын
I'm just here to get roasted by Ranni....
@moonwalk2005
@moonwalk2005 Жыл бұрын
She called me her little kfc bucket (the racism hurts so good😩😩😩😩)
@megamanfan6969
@megamanfan6969 Жыл бұрын
No dlc no women
@PenguinWithInternetAccess
@PenguinWithInternetAccess Жыл бұрын
​@@moonwalk2005bro ?
@David-sc5kf
@David-sc5kf Жыл бұрын
It's really a neckbeard in his moms basement with a voice changer😂
@toastmaster914
@toastmaster914 Жыл бұрын
​@@David-sc5kfdown bad. I'm here for the info
@GoodnightMoon4
@GoodnightMoon4 Жыл бұрын
I am by no means a fromsoft newbie. When ER came out I was keen to begin my hooligan antics with invasions at low levels as I usually do, hoping my ( and most players at the time ) inexperience would make for some fun encounters. My first real invasion was into a twink who had two cross-naginata and literally one shot me. That's when I knew shit was going to be wild
@CODA96
@CODA96 Жыл бұрын
This is why i stopped playing this game entirely. I was already fed up with the same copy spammed AOE bosses, so every 2nd invader being some min/max 2-shot insta stunlock madness proc sweat build didnt help. Never touching this again. I just hope for a Bloodborne 2 or anything better than this circusshow.
@lharsay
@lharsay Жыл бұрын
7:08 "You will very rarely see them in invasions or duels"' Yeah, sure....
@Projectarchan
@Projectarchan 7 ай бұрын
I've only seen them once or twice in recent months amidst many invasions.
@PenguinWithInternetAccess
@PenguinWithInternetAccess Жыл бұрын
So Dragonbolt blessing a spell taught by the dragons to humans give a boost to hardness huh ? Yeah Vyke ain't beating the scalie allegations
@Jesus-Is-King19
@Jesus-Is-King19 Жыл бұрын
If they can slow colossal sword crouch poke they can slow duel spear running attack
@NoNono-o3h
@NoNono-o3h Жыл бұрын
The entire dual spears moveset is problematic. The Gugs nerfs worked bc the rest of the moveset is not braindead
@scandzlambz8539
@scandzlambz8539 Жыл бұрын
Tip: counter this set up with quick step rapier spam (no seriously try it)
@OnlyWaifuYT
@OnlyWaifuYT Жыл бұрын
Quickstep is brutally nerfed. I don't think that works anymore
@rikkabilly
@rikkabilly Жыл бұрын
This is true
@rikkabilly
@rikkabilly Жыл бұрын
They are too fast, even reverse quickstep doesn't work half the time
@scandzlambz8539
@scandzlambz8539 Жыл бұрын
@@OnlyWaifuYT double spears have a very thin hitbox, you dont necessarily have to i frame it just step it and counter. Also if they do a running l1 you can jump time it into an R2 if you're using a larger weapon
@scandzlambz8539
@scandzlambz8539 Жыл бұрын
@@OnlyWaifuYT try out poison great thrusting swords in arena, that would be a hilarious video. Add finger print shield and it's a recipe for true cancer. 2 running r2s to poison on meta level if you use poison weapon AOW
@titaniumluca9685
@titaniumluca9685 Жыл бұрын
I liked using dual red lighting dragon spears in the past until it started to feel really gross in pvp
@DaPerfecto57
@DaPerfecto57 Жыл бұрын
You mean powerstancing bolt of gransax
@fawazahmed4978
@fawazahmed4978 Жыл бұрын
@@DaPerfecto57🖐️🤓
@man-iz4ml
@man-iz4ml Жыл бұрын
​@@fawazahmed4978🤡👈
@gameiscoming32ddd29
@gameiscoming32ddd29 Жыл бұрын
I am one of the lucky ones who can say that they have never encountered a double naginata in PVP (thank god)
@islar7832
@islar7832 Жыл бұрын
SHIELDS! DO SHIELDS PLZ!!! (and how they are nearly unusable in pvp, besides parry)
@VMVMV202
@VMVMV202 Жыл бұрын
fingerprint shield with blood infusion 1 shots 50 vig on the ash of war. pretty busted imo
@NoNono-o3h
@NoNono-o3h Жыл бұрын
​@@VMVMV202that's just shield crash letting you feel like a proper bleed build for 40 seconds, not the shield itself
@VMVMV202
@VMVMV202 Жыл бұрын
@@NoNono-o3h fingerprint shield procs madness and bleed at the same time from 1 ash of war that's why it one shots. No other shield has that utility of direct damage status effects.
@NoNono-o3h
@NoNono-o3h Жыл бұрын
@@VMVMV202 probably palisade But my point stands, the strong part is the statys effects, shields on their own arent that good
@islar7832
@islar7832 Жыл бұрын
@@VMVMV202 1. It's pretty slow so good luck hiting with it. 2. most ppl run 60 vig 3.I get it that there are like 1 or 2 gimiky shields that can be used for attacking, but that's not what shields should do. You should be able to block with them. But now 2 zweihander pokes guard breaks you. They've turned them from something viable where you could get amazing trades by managing your stamina well into a joke. And there were a ton of ways to deal with them, but the pea brains kept complaining about how they couldn't just R1 spam their way through and they nerfed them into oblivion.
@MerklesArmy
@MerklesArmy Жыл бұрын
I died by a 2 spear guy, he yea bagged me, and then messaged me I should quit because I suck, I was only using a torch
@Superluminal_30000
@Superluminal_30000 Жыл бұрын
I block tbagers and down pointers
@theguywhoasked2520
@theguywhoasked2520 Жыл бұрын
Elden Ring pvp is just one big hot steamy mess, for the most part.
@thiavesse325
@thiavesse325 Жыл бұрын
Isn't standard the 4th phys dmg type?
@OnlyWaifuYT
@OnlyWaifuYT Жыл бұрын
"Standard" is an infusion type or more in regards to PURE physical, not a physical damage type per se
@tinminator8905
@tinminator8905 Жыл бұрын
Just played Dark Souls 2 yesterday. Remembered that everything had counterdamage, just thrusting weapons had the most and that sweet spot damage kind if balanced spears. Don't know why they got rid of those systems. It feels like they would help with balance in ER.
@TheHogfatherInvades
@TheHogfatherInvades Жыл бұрын
Dear fingers, I just want the twin axe moveset from ds3 back
@NickyKick
@NickyKick Жыл бұрын
Dual spears are just the new "Helixtodon" from DkS2 (Powerstance Helix & Mastodon Halberd) From just keeps on doing the same old same old
@Kaazeda
@Kaazeda Жыл бұрын
First off, seek joy ; Therefore try pin.
@OnlyWaifuYT
@OnlyWaifuYT Жыл бұрын
Close enough. You get a heart though
@squirrel4824
@squirrel4824 Жыл бұрын
The only honest way to use them is in a marrionette cosplay.
@Brown95P
@Brown95P Жыл бұрын
@5:52 Random Scottish AI Momentum Also, hot take: strike damage should've been the one to get the counterhit bonus, not the pierce one.
@lammyjammy
@lammyjammy Жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, the Naginata has the best damage of any spear (at least, when infused and built right). The slower speed of it’s normal moveset and higher stamina consumption were seemingly meant to compensate for this. It’s slower and uses more stamina than the other spears. But when you dual wield them, only the stamina usage matters because the dual spear moveset is the same speed regardless of the spears used. That makes the Naginatas just as fast as any other when dual wielded, but also with that extra damage AND intrinsic bleed. Just another reason that they are OP. I wish they hadn’t nerfed shields in PvP so badly, because using a shield in PvP feels pretty bad. Hyper aggressive dual wielders should have viable counters, and I don’t think anyone should have to use the absolute heaviest shield (fingerprint) just to counter the dual naginatas. A normal greatshield should do. Using lighter greatshields (spiked palisade) and some medium shields has surprised me with how absolutely flimsy my guard feels. I get my guard broken so easily in PvP. You just have to use it really strategically and not rely on it too much, because it just won’t save you from aggressive players.
@DTPandemonium
@DTPandemonium Жыл бұрын
I'm a 2 handed greatshield as a weapon enjoyer
@mulhollanddrivehobo6910
@mulhollanddrivehobo6910 10 ай бұрын
Trust me, its better that way no one wants a turtle meta, turtles are as annoying as dual spears crouch spammers.
@ghoulishgoober3122
@ghoulishgoober3122 8 ай бұрын
​​@@mulhollanddrivehobo6910turtles rely on their ability to take massive amounts of damage though, probably can still deal damage but isn't as built for that because of points into vigor, endurance, and vitality. There are ways to get around shields or really high defense and poise, but not an easily exploitable way to get basically infinite damage
@miguelnascimento2847
@miguelnascimento2847 Жыл бұрын
It would be nice to see it's PS moveset changed to something less op. It would be nonsense to nerf the damage on PSS alone so a moveset change or nerfing of recovery time seems the best. Nerfing overall PS damage could be nice but I'm sure it would kill many PS weapon classes.
@Lemongrass_gaming
@Lemongrass_gaming Жыл бұрын
Black flame tornado build when
@leunam3004
@leunam3004 Жыл бұрын
*Obligatory '+1 reason why I don't pvp' comment.*
@exemptorphan9522
@exemptorphan9522 Жыл бұрын
Wait i think i played against you yesterday unless more than one person uses that name, i was running like a death build and my name was "Bird enjoyer" i think you shit on me everytime. was at the boil prawn shack, was going for duels using taunters. i got shit on by someone using duel nagi, a couple times with that name and searched to find out the combo is pretty strong! EDIT: 4:01 HAHAH IM IN THE VIDEO I JUST REALISED! Good games you were absolutely terrifying thank you for the informative video like the day after so i can properly understand how i got shit on
@amberhernandez
@amberhernandez Жыл бұрын
I played my first run with the Vulgar Militia Saw on a quality build (not the Arcane status variety). Malenia frustrated me so much, I pulled out the Mimic Tear and Gransax/Nagi. I beat her first try with that setup and finished the rest of the game with my Militia Saw. I feel no shame.
@lharsay
@lharsay Жыл бұрын
I did a NG+7 run with dual Inquisitor Girandoles and got her first try, even with my 1500hours in Elden Ring she always kills me at least 10 times on NG+7 with any other build.
@DUES_EX
@DUES_EX 9 ай бұрын
You are woman who’s trash at the game. Most women aren’t good at videogames
@Killicon93
@Killicon93 Жыл бұрын
I think that one of the most insulting things about this absolute bullcrap OP status of double spears is that using the spears like that you would be hardly able to properly put force into your attack. As a proper spear thrust gets its force from the rotation of the torso, just like a proper punch.
@DrSaltyNerve
@DrSaltyNerve Жыл бұрын
Sub'd. No player (being a "helpful" community) didn't share this info with me. The gank shits were hiding that vital 30% counter trade damage.
@GodfreyEnjoyer1
@GodfreyEnjoyer1 Жыл бұрын
This shit deserves a nerf, broken and cheap as hell, it is ez to play and super effective. As soon as I see a double spear abuser I run away and play brun and turn with a rapier. I do not mind annoying stuff but Dual spears are straight-up broken and Op
@DTPandemonium
@DTPandemonium Жыл бұрын
Catch flame is good against them too. Their insectoid brain explodes when they realise they cant spam out of hitstun against it even with that insane speed.
@MrSilentDave
@MrSilentDave Жыл бұрын
I put chicken nuggets in the oven right before watching this vid... i'm sure now, Ranni and i are destined for one another
@Unclaimed_Username
@Unclaimed_Username Жыл бұрын
>one of the coolest movesets >Relegated to being half of a set for people keenly familiar with the taste of their uncles nether regions Meta players are a blight
@TheTraveler980
@TheTraveler980 Жыл бұрын
I would just increase the start-up frames of dual-wielding spears and lower those frames for one-handed spear use... basically trade attack speeds.
@LuroRose
@LuroRose Жыл бұрын
I want onlywaifu to do a talk about final fantasy 10. Everytime I watch a video I find myself asking where is that music from and why does it make me feel like I am missing something. I think you would have alot to say about it.
@OnlyWaifuYT
@OnlyWaifuYT Жыл бұрын
I'd love to. But I'd have to replay it again and I just don't have the time now, sadly...
@VantaVoid7
@VantaVoid7 Жыл бұрын
The analysis using the disdainful voice of Ranni, calling out cringe Redditors/Tryhards, and FFX music automatically makes this video a 10/10. Excellent! Whenever I see these Duel Nagi users with bullgoats...it just makes me...sad. Are you really having fun playing like this I ask???...because everyone else isn't...😑
@ashenone3883
@ashenone3883 Жыл бұрын
Its a shame really, my favorite type of build in ds2 became so hated in elden ring.
@cfh23666
@cfh23666 Жыл бұрын
Heard tear two hardness and thought, you had my interest, but now you have my undivided attention.
@captainoppai4539
@captainoppai4539 11 ай бұрын
I now have the perfect fat sweaty virgin invader counter Thanks auntie Ranni
@toryunaminosaki1022
@toryunaminosaki1022 Жыл бұрын
or just use the natural predator of the dual spear, buckler + misericord xD
@lpnlizard2742
@lpnlizard2742 Жыл бұрын
hey, this ones about me. let see what they say about my build. oh.. ohhh.. ..... Am i the baddie?
@Zarkrer
@Zarkrer Жыл бұрын
El rango de ataque sigue siendo el rango de ataque y no se le puede hacer nada
@WhiteKnightFlameZero
@WhiteKnightFlameZero Жыл бұрын
honestly anything that makes redditors more again.....I'd say do it XD
@bandi642
@bandi642 7 ай бұрын
my first pvp experience in elden ring was a dude with dual naginatas. i wasnt so eager to play pvp after that
@GroundbreakGames
@GroundbreakGames Жыл бұрын
Just recently got the game and after my first playthrough this is what I ended up wielding. I thought I had discovered some secret meta... lmao NOPE Turns out I'm just an asshole.
@echothegecko2875
@echothegecko2875 Жыл бұрын
That Feel Good Inc cover in the intro was great lmao Anyone know the name of the artist?
@OnlyWaifuYT
@OnlyWaifuYT Жыл бұрын
Anthony Vincent!
@quesomurda
@quesomurda Жыл бұрын
nagi is only honorable offmeta weapon fr
@thebleachgod6890
@thebleachgod6890 Жыл бұрын
Hey guys, this video came out on my birthday!
@sergeanthuman
@sergeanthuman 11 ай бұрын
but you cant deny you want to be thrusted by them at some point
@tonyrayticeyjr2379
@tonyrayticeyjr2379 Жыл бұрын
No I'm having water with 2 cheese burger 😅
@willienelsonmandelayeeehaw2203
@willienelsonmandelayeeehaw2203 Жыл бұрын
Never knew about this and I do invasions regularly. Cool video though.
@vedymin1
@vedymin1 Жыл бұрын
There is a reason the spear was called the king of melee weapons historically :) tho irl naginatas are more like glaives, not really spears x)
@Cambone13
@Cambone13 Жыл бұрын
4:13 ha that little fart is way funnier than it should be
@MrTickyy
@MrTickyy Жыл бұрын
I HATE DUAL SPEARS
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