Why eBikes Are Really Hard Work!

Since electric mountain bikes hit the scene, they've faced a lot of criticism. The most common thing being said was that eBikes are for lazy people, but Steve Jones says otherwise! He believes eMTB riding is just as demanding as regular mountain biking. Steve sees the motor as a bonus that adds excitement to your ride!
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[@embn]

Do you think electric mountain bikes are for lazy people? Share your thoughts in the comments below! 👇

[@nomad-pq4yw8iy7v]

They are for people "you" choose weather to be lazy. Bottom line it's your input that effects how much of a workout you get EMTB or MTB. While there is a bit more to it one can work just as hard weather on a MTB, full power, mid assist or light. Also ur age isn't the factor people think it is. Truth is that guy in turbo might be fitter stronger and three times your age or not! Also your MTB might cost more than your EMTB

[@tombeck129]

Electric mtbs are for people who need (or want) help from a motor. Period.

[@knightstemplar6243]

I’ve ridden 31 miles this morning all off road I’m absolutely knackered E-bikes are absolutely awesome fun more capable than a standard MTB and people saying it’s for lazy cyclists. It’s totally crap. I’m in top physical shape.

[@anthonymorris5084]

@@knightstemplar6243 I have an ebike and I'm out of breath upon reaching the bottom of the hill and upon reaching the top of the hill. I just go up a lot faster.

[@lukasvrana6388]

I ride enduro ebike and normal DH bike.... I am focused to go down the hill :) - same as I like snowboarding (and freeride also).

[@scottamolinari]

The huge difference is, an eMTB allows for a much, much larger range of "limits". In other words, if you were to ride a normal mountain bike and you go up a hill, you might hit your limit, have to get off and push and be frustrated. With an eMTB, you just add power and you get up the hill, still hitting your limit. It's friggin awesome for people like me at age 58. And I noticed over time, because I'm having fun and am out on my eMTB a crap-ton more often, my limit is going up i.e. I'm getting physically fitter. It's just win-win-win-win with me and my eMTB.

[@insidemattsmind5999]

EXACTLY!!! I’ll be 60 in March and my eMTB motivates me to ride because I know I won’t gas out on the climbs!

[@chivolavale4094]

Same here...I am 66 this year and going out with my Emtb every time I have a chance to do so, since 2019

[@markdonahue9129]

70 here and couldn’t agree more, traded my MTB for eMTB about 3 years ago due to lots of “steep” areas where I ride. I now ride more often & dont have to dismount so I get a much better workout. We do have some of our local county parks prohibiting e-bikes due to some abuse but hopefully that will change as those Abusers are weeded out and us “more seasoned” riders can enjoy the trails as we did when we were younger

[@masterJODAz]

I'm 32, been riding all kinds of bikes. Sticking with motor for future being, way more fun despite the age

[@mikedwiles]

Started mountain biking 2 years ago at 65 years old. I knew about ebikes and thought I would get one when I turned 75. Last summer, I got an incredible deal on a new YT Decoy 29 that I could not pass up. The YT ebike has become my main bike. My nearly new Pivot Switchblade hangs in the garage far too much. The ebike lets me ride with my sons and keep up. I've also progressed much further that I ever thought I would since I can hit so much more trail without worrying if I have the strength to make it back to the parking lot.

[@jaywhittemore5878]

I lose 3” off my waist & 15 lbs since I bought my emtb 2 months ago. I run in eco mode most of the time but now I ride more. I went from 16 miles a week to 64-80 miles a week.

[@ERone43]

One month and 12 pounds lost here 👍

[@steves365]

As a 50-year-old, it's a great way to go mountain biking with my son. Thanks to the emtb, we always have great tours together.

[@embn]

That's awesome! Great to hear :)

[@TheBikeRoom]

Did a 2 hour jumps sesh on my 26kg eeb yesterday and my HR peaked at 164bpm and averaged 134bpm and I used 1900 calories. I then did a quick loop of my local woods as still had over half of my 630wh battery left. That was hard work slipping and sliding in the mud and lifting the bike over fallen trees from the storms. I didn’t see one ☝️ I say 1 manual full sus mtb apart from a semi-pro XC rider who asked to follow me down a sketchy track and fair play to him, he stuck to my wheel and was thankful for the safe lines I offered. So, I’m nearer to 60 than 50 years old and he was a young chap yet we both left our egos at home and in our chosen ways, got out of our warm, comfy houses and got muddy. Isn’t that what it’s all about? 🤟😜

[@islandaerial3414]

You forgot to case something LoL

[@dadventuretv2538]

Yeah jump seshes on a full power emtb are serious upper body workout.

[@TheBrokenMountainBiker]

I noticed something after literally the very first trail ride after getting my Kenevo. I spent the usual 2 hours or so in the saddle, burnt off the usual 1000 or so calories, but the difference was I'd gone 30 miles rather than the usual 12-15 miles! So same time, same effort but over twice the distance. So in terms of effort and energy burnt for any given length of time is exactly the same. You just go further! I see the same at bike parks, I smash out as many laps as I can in the 3 hours or so my body lasts for, but I end up doing double the number of laps. If anything, after a bike park session I'm more knackered because I've gone faster and harder than i used to and my upper body is way more achy.

[@jeanmarc_in_Hudson]

Got my first e-mtb in 2019, the amish bike was collecting more dust every year passing as my riding became more and more sporadic… I now ride 100% emtb. I lost a little weight and overall am in better shape simply because I ride more. The fun starts at my garage door when I get going, fun going up, fun coming down… Sometimes fun when I stop at the local pub on the way back ( l run flats 😊 ) Good video! 👍

[@TheScramble8]

Love mine. My problem is finding time to ride.

[@embn]

A common problem unfortunately!

[@kayakutah]

I'm 71. I live at 6500 ft in Utah where our trails start at 7000' and climb, relentlessly to almost 10000'. I'll go out on my mountain bike and I'll be at 90+% max HR for 45 minutes on a long ride. I can't continue to do that, so last summer I bought a Giant Elite 3. I can ride the same rides now at 70% max HR in less time. Of course it's easier! That's why I bought it and it's wonderful. Last summer I went on a long ride with my 32 year old son who is in fantastic shape. 20 miles in, he said, "man, I'm smoked" to which I responded, "Yeah, me too". He said, "really?" to which I honestly responded, "no, I feel pretty fresh, actually". Just enjoy it, it doesn't have to be harder.

[@Dannyjones1]

Superb video, Steve. I'm working harder than ever, going much further and improving at a much quicker rate on an EMTB. As the gradients and terrain of climbs that are possible being much steeper and technical, there's no doubt you get one hell of a workout. I'm aching all over after this mornings ride.

[@iamthecablecompany]

This is the exact kind of discrimination I get from runners when I'm e-walking. We're dealing with the same type of luddites that don't understand how hard it is to e-walk on a Segway or to ride an awesome broped like you do.

[@thomasjackaman69]

I love mine but can’t help to feel abit lazy and cheeky going past people who have manual bikes walking theirs up a hill when I’m going up with ease 🙈😬

[@grantnewby3756]

I'm 67 and my EMB allows me to get out there and enjoy riding I have done 1500ks in my first 12 months. Without it, I would be doing something else way less physical.

[@DavidSmith-wy5js]

Nice camera work & great bike skills Steve.

[@embn]

Thanks for watching David!

[@AK-ContentCreatIon]

True words! Thanks...Yes, I too have more fun riding at my limits and had no fear going to those. And since I got to know them better, had the confidence riding on my analog bike and never once i overdone the ride out, and had fun....no worries anymore that i overestimate my abillities and cant get home... Now I do both with great joy!

[@photographerimages]

Another amazing Emtb video. 👍

[@mcxstar04]

Great video guys!!!! 😊

[@embn]

Thanks for watching!!

[@theepimountainbiker6551]

I did a similar test over on my channel. Rode the same route, mix of gravel, trail and pavement, on a e-bike and a regular old hardtail. It took so much more effort and energy to get the ebike to the same end destination.

[@ktech4246]

I dont knock trail motorbike riders for being lazy that also requires a lot of core work. ETMB is just a different sport.

[@ExplosiveNotes]

I don't have ebike because I'm lazy. Lazy to remember to charge it, lazy to deal with extra component wear, lazy to wrestle the extra wegith to get it out of and back home... I'm also lazy to be bothered by what other people ride and are faster because of it 😁 Everyone should ride what makes them happy.

[@thebeaglebeat3615]

Its not lazy, it means you can cover more ground, whilst still physically exerting, leg only = 10 km ebike = 25-30 km with similar effort. Refering to trail or commuting, mtb riding is more intense, ebike or not, different challenge as explained in this video. Nice subject well done.

[@edarnold99017]

Love this point of view!

[@nathantoney.1501]

Regular bikes: muscles are the limiting factor more than cardio. Ebikes: cardio is more the limiting factor than the muscular system. I just prefer going farther and faster.

[@octavianpal6384]

Nice one,very clever old fox 🎉

[@jesuisFORTIO]

its a lot of work dealing an 26kg bike on tecnical trails. I was suprised how hard it. Lots of fun and opens a very nice door for me to enjoy when dont wanna kill my legs

[@leghunter9201]

After tossing off for weeks online doing research on whether to get an e, I ended up pissing on it and getting a high spec standard. Nah I don't think they're for lazy people but If you're riding the whole day or doing some massive 200 km plus rides then perhaps its for you. I just couldn't justify the extra cost and weight.

[@embn]

What bike did you choose in the end?

[@LiveToRideMTB]

Lucky enough to own a MTB and an EBike - I use both, MTB for fitness and better riding performance, e bike for solo power hours, rest days when my legs are tired and just hilarious amounts of descending in my local woods. They’re around 30m in elevation and I’ll do nearly 700 metres in just over an hour 😂 I have done a Scotland trip on the eeb where me and a pal rode mostly in eco with trail being a treat for those punchy climbs, was great did hours each day with a stop at lunch to charge the bikes at the van 🤘 top work Steve! - final note the upper body gets a serious work out on the eeb however I honestly don’t think it’s anywhere near as close when it comes to heart rates, climb a steep hill in eco then go on a normal bike and the normal bike will feel like you’ve got an anchor attached. Then I will admit I’ve had mechanical issues with my motor. I feel not many people talk about it but it’s expensive if you’re outside of warranty and unlike a normal bike you can’t simply fix it yourself.

[@inkkarips4208]

No they are not. I challenge myself more with e-bike than I would with normal bike

[@jeffhaseley71]

I have never heard a EMTB rider complain or judge an analogue mountain biker. Usually quite the opposite . I and my mates respect them. I don’t understand all the judgement on the trails and in conversation. I have worked in the cycling industry for over 30 years. I can clearly remember buying my first mountain bike in 1988. I went into the bike shop and said I want a bike to ride the trails. THATS ALL I ASKED FOR. It wasn’t about which bike would give me a work out. That wasn’t why I was there. I lived in the desert and wanted to explore it. Now to my surprise it was really hard. However I was young with lots of free time , didn’t own a car and got in shape and it got easier. I was always hard but I progressed. I didn’t ride for 10 plus years and didn’t want to because it wasn’t fun anymore. In 2018 I got a EMTB. Wow a game changer I now ride 2-3 times a week , lost 30 pounds, and did it all in turbo mode. I guess I’ve always been a cheater or haven’t ever gotten a work out on any bicycle. There is so much more to riding a bicycle then how much effort it requires. There is community , mental health benefits , exploring the great outdoors , and challenging yourself for progression. If a EMTB gets you on a bicycle, or back on a bicycle, that is awesome, you do you. Welcome to the fun side, enjoy the E-GRIN and enjoy.

[@icollinsunr]

Some people wouldnt be caught dead having fun. Emtb's are so much fun.

[@LeaBrattle-parker-pp5sf]

I come back from my rides on my est900 way more tired than I did in my analogue Indian fire trail. I imagine some of it is muscling a 25kg bike about against the 14kg Marin

[@billmccarthy5920]

I’m 61 and went for a 25km ride with my son through our local forrest today, some good climbs and downhills. I wouldn’t be doing this without my emtb.

[@embn]

The good stuff!

[@cheeeeeeeef]

When my mate got his first emtb I thought it wasnt for me, but didint cuss him out over it. Then I got 3x slipped discs in my back and wanted something that would help me get out while not worrying that I wouldnt make it back because I'd taken a turn for the worse in recovery. It was easily the best choice I ever made, not just with the road to recovery but in the way I thought about riding and exercise. I still own an analogue bike obviously and use that for local weekday rides, but when I want a big change in scenery the emtb is life-changing for me. I might be an outlier but I only ever use eco mode (unless there is silly hill or for the lols) and i've been riding more than I ever did before. If I pass analogue people on hills, I always slow down/wont be a prick etc and usually its fine, but you're always going to get the giga-bros 'oh with a batt tho yeah' (usually the roadie types on a day off - sorry any normal roadies catching a stray there but its true in my experience). TL:DR only people that comment IRL are bellends. Do what you want to do and as long as you're sharing the riding space like a normal dude who GAF.

[@embn]

Sorry to hear about your back, glad to hear you're on the road to recovery though! eBiking is a great way to get out and some people forget that it has opened the sport up to so many more riders 🤘Keep doing what you do! 🔥

[@stephendenagy3396]

No exercise? My Turbo Levi helped me lose over 100 pounds. On the flat I would typically manage 10 mph. Kind of boring. With assist I ride 15-20 mph. Much more fun. The last statement is right, you ride at your limit. And as I am in my 70’s, if I pass my limit I can limp home slowly with full assist. It’s a blast! And quite a workout! The dropper seat also helps the arthritis, but that’s another discussion!

[@sandywar]

I love riding mountains. Don’t see too many normal bikes where l go. Most stick to flattish trails or uplifts.

[@dodgymtbknee]

i was at the wrekin in telford today, up 4 times on my 27kg torque:on, my upper torso feels like ive been in the gym lifting weights all weekend 😅 it might be easier on the legs, but the rest of your body really does work hard. since ive had my ebike i've gone down a size in knee pads and up a size in elbow pads 💪

[@homebrew75]

The Wrekin and Ercall are great places to ride. Emtb's were built for these two hills.

[@samcourt6228]

I find that in a given time, I’m far more knackered after riding my e-bike, admittedly it’s a lightweight jobbie but I’m getting so many more runs in that I may tired after.

[@Shlomi_Azulay]

You are absolutely right, and whyte emtb is great bike

[@embn]

We love these new Whytes! Real good stuff

[@xtrainerchronicles2085]

The best comparison somewhere between MTB and Enduro moto or diet bike trail riding. So I would ask people do you think Graham Jarvis is lazy? How about Mario Romain? I do all 3 MTB, EMTB, and Enduro moto. They are all equally difficult... Just different.

[@dadventuretv2538]

100%. I just had a little time to squeeze in a ride and did 10.9 miles in 1 hour 9 mins (funny right?) and it was pinning it the entire time. Every trail. Speed the entire ride (well except when I passed people). It takes the boring bs out of mountain biking. Even the ride out- just a long boring climb- turbo mode and hammer. If you are a speed addict emtbs are the way to go. It is a different thing altogether. And the best part- because I knew I could get out super quick, I was able to stay out on the trails longer. And this was a ride I probably could not have done on a regular mtb bc I had just lifted legs heavy and was recovering. And when done- was able to go into the office with none of the after ride exhaustion.

[@matt45540]

I can go out and ride 25 miles with 5'800 ft of elevation gain. And do it again day after day, or do it in the morning charge up and do it again in the afternoon 😬 traveling 4 hours to the nearest place to go mountain biking means I've got to take advantage of it while I'm there

[@mac0perator]

One of the reasons I went for a light EMTB was to get more exercise. Now you're telling me that riding a full fat EMTB can be even more physically demanding. I surely didn't see that one coming! Might consider a different bike choice text time... 😉

[@embn]

We were all surprised by the result as well!

[@kingerz]

Normal bikes are obviously harder work but I get a brilliant work out on Mt EMTBs.

[@heywood165]

I push myself harder on my ebike than I do on my mtb. The reason? Because if I'm knackered on a normal bike and still have to get home it puts me through more physical stress than on the ebike, which I can rely on to get me home if my legs and lungs are gone.

[@emtbhookes]

I’m 100% agree but I also think that trying to argue which is type of bike is more hard work missed the point. Life is too short to care what other people ride. I’m in my early 40s. I’m healthy yet I still a choose to ride an eMTB only. Sometimes I push myself hard on it and other days I cruise a little. As a result I ride way more often and my skills have progressed faster (on average) than most of my friends that stayed on normal bikes. For my case an eMTB is the best option but I can’t deny that for others a normal bike is better. Let’s all ride what we want. Having said that of course eMTB hatred on the trails is very real.

[@datractor]

Motocross is the most physically demanding sport in the world, yet people think you just sit down and twist the grip. Some people hit max heart rate just on the start gate. The best thing about my ebike is that I can get in a better, more demanding work out than the analog but can do it all again the next day without my body feeling like I was in a UFC fight.

[@markmoss1035]

I ride around sherwood Pines. Can be pretty flat compared to other trails. But with my haibike ednur 7. On full power. It's like Downhill run, all day long. 🏆🏆🏆

[@marauder7412]

The only people I find hating on ebikes are ones who never ridden one or the ones who can't afford one.

[@andym3920]

i I am 62 i love riding off rd and never did i think i would bye an e bike, Me and my friend like to go to the lake district did it for 2 years on normal mtb the 3rd year some guys on emtb came with us they where not very fit but they came because they new it would be easy to keep up as of course they did. I thought if you cant beat them join them so me and my friend went to a local Giant shop ended up buying 2 e bikes. i went basic and got giant stance with 500 wat battery. I tell you now i have never looked back i love it for me to do a 35 to 40 mile ride i have to ride in eco or plus one save my power, We took these bikes to the lakes and where riding up red runs and where able to ride all day but it was hard work the other guys wont ride with us no more, I live in east anglia and we have had a lot of floods and a lot of mud, you cant ride through mud like we have had on standard mtb these guys piss through it some much fun cleaning after ride not so,. I have done over 1500 miles on my bike had to replace casset chain plus pads. They are only as easy to ride as you make them ride hard and have fun they are awesome.

[@MTBEAST007]

Most pf the jealous comments come from those who can't afford one. Why would anyone want to ride slowly? Boring.

[@SafferCA]

I've never been concerned what others think but, yes, the condescension is real.

[@stevengoodwin3154]

My next bike is emtb. I have a couple of years before my dollars go to N+1 again. In the meantime, let the tech progress and the cost reduce! ✌

[@embn]

Sounds like a plan!

[@texfromro]

Last autumn I did in 4 days in Dolomites 260km and over 10.000m of climbing.

[@embn]

Sounds like one hell of a trip 🏔️

[@texfromro]

@@embn you actually got a picture from there with my buddy's bike.. a grey mondraker in front of the "Tre cime di Lavaredo". It took us some time to find something suitable to lean the bike onto, my friend was willing to quit a couple of minutes before that picture was taken 😊.

[@rachaelrobinson6252]

Things people forget, your throwing around 20kg more for the same downhill. I'm exhausted after hitting the trails.

[@lozetchells9164]

I have 2 EMTBs. I love taking people out for their first EMTB ride to change, or blow, their mind. Often both.

[@embn]

Doing a service to the eMTB community 🫡 How many of those people go on to buy an eBike after?

[@lozetchells9164]

@@embn two so far, a mate and my boss. Another three wanting but can't afford.

[@embn]

Great stuff!

[@bmartinot]

People say it's cheating then jump in their car to drive half a mile. I never got accused of cheating on my motorbike🤔

[@Enduro262]

The way I describe EMTB’S is it’s just fun.

[@embn]

It sure is!

[@kiwibob72]

I feel that on flatter stuff, due to the extra speed and effort required to throw a much heavier e-bike bike around the corners at a much higher trail speed, that you end up getting more of an 'all body' workout than you do on an MTB. The myth that e-bikes are lazy, is utter BS! Also, why no 4K video option?? 1080 video is a bit 2015 isn't it?

[@photographerimages]

Great comparison, abut the Olympic skiers they just stand there and slide after going on the lifts 😂 use that for the naysayers.

[@embn]

It's become our go-to that's for sure!

[@elvingtonred]

I do have issues with the lardy arses on them. But you do get a work out without question, these are heavy machines to haul around. Riders are surprised what a workout you get on an e bike. Go to any well known off pistes nowadays. E Bikes are the majority, anyone who likes climbing is a liar! Oh, I'm 65 so I'm definitely allowed one.

[@brandihodges9548]

Is it lazy to ride 3-5x more miles, more elevation and heartrate is still avg 130s, highs 160s with emtb vs less mileage, less times riding per week, less elevation??

[@benhoward4294]

Ebbs have their place for some. Granted. Although i don’t see much difference in turning up on a KTM 450exe and riding mtb trails and making similar claims as to how they compare with mtb. EBikes are a separate thing to normal cycling. They just appear similar.

[@bradsanders6954]

Steeper, Faster, Further, way more intense. Is how an ex dirtbiker and current mt biker rides an EMTB. Its addicting. And SO much fun! I am very sure we owe no excuses or explanations to the trolls who repeatedly call out EMTB riding as something for a blue hair. Those who troll EMTB riders will troll, they wont stop, they need to get a rise out of you and put you on the back foot. Screw em. .............................................................................................................................................................................................................................. And yeah, I ride manual road bikes quite a bit, we have had a small invasion of 70 to 80 year old people show up on E gravel bikes they use as roadbikes. They slow the pack down, it slows the whole ride down. I dont like waiting for an E bike to play catch up, not much. So there are different sides to the coin. But they keep showing up. Some e gravel bikes only go 20 mph, while the pack would be doing 23 or faster, we have to slow down and go into auto mode idling along. Then we hit a big climb and they dont seem able to pedal hard enough to make the e bike go up a hill very well. So we wait. My EMTB is a trail bike, period. I ride it with other EMTB's. It IS a blast! The only way to deal with an E troll, is to not answer, they really need to raise your hackles.

[@konannanok4961]

In my 40-ies, 125kg, riding 18kg freeride bike from 2007, doing 100-120km trips all day long in woods (no asphalt). No need for e-bike yet. There is no battery which will allow me to do the same even on ECO mode me think. Prove me wrong, happy to listen your point of view.

[@bradsanders6954]

Really to me, an EMTB is just another bike in the quiver. I dont specifically ride E. I get at least 110 miles a week in winter on pedal bikes, road ,gravel, emtb, amish mt bike..............and KTM 890 goes out today, and a DR650 all tricked out. Bikes are all fun, every one of them. When a group ride comes up for EMTB I am flat out on it all day. But roadrides go every day in groups near me. A real roadbiker has way more patience than I do for going in a straight line on flat ground all day staring at the wheel ahead of them, that is more or less all they know. Then if the group does a climb its a desperate pecking order as the climbers go to the front. Little people are faster up hills. Endless competition.

[@robmarshall4095]

Hopefully anyone calling it lazy (does this actually still happen?) rides single speed only… I mean surely having easier gears for riding uphill would also be lazy using that same logic?

[@gabrielalvarez5154]

Sometimes I'm more exhausted after a emtb ride than on a regular mtb ride. Sounds weird, but maybe that's because I put all my energy in long technical descent

[@philiphawkins4684]

Yeah but it's not all in the legs. Where you would probably have given up earlier.

[@embn]

A full-body workout for sure!

[@joshbowker9654]

E-bikes are unreal untill motor packs in that’s my only negative…hopefully one day it won’t be luck of the draw weather you get a reliable motor

[@stevezodiac491]

you might as well buy a mobility scooter, zimmer frame, walking stick, or just give up altogether ?

[@melch1]

As long as people get out and enjoy nobody should complain, but there are two things to consider. first one is pretty serious, you see now truckloads of beginners at places where only people who trained real hard managed to get. It really is a concerned in national parks, reserved etc, just too many people. emtb are motorized Vehicles and ultimately will have to be regulated, bikers on muscular are now paying the price because non bikers dont make the difference. second is, it is completely delusional to think that the effort is even remotely close to riding a traditional trail/enduro bike uphill. The data on your smartwatch are just numbers and mean close to nothing on the trail. I occasionally rent ebikes on Holidays and even eco mode is just mind blowing. I personally do find ebikes amazing, and will most probably own one someday, but it is a different sport and if people keep switching at this rate we will loose access to many places

[@billmccarthy5920]

Do you mean the trails will be closed due to overcrowding?

[@melch1]

@@billmccarthy5920 non MTB specific trails, yes. That's already a thing in many places in Europe. And if thousands and thousands of E-Bikes arrive it will for sure not help. I am pro ebike, but conscientiously

[@billmccarthy5920]

@@melch1 good point I hadn’t thought of, thanks for reply.

[@kevintraynor4508]

Electric mountain bikes are so much fun I don't care much about other people's comments about E. Bike riders

[@paulhusky580bts]

I got Ebikes so could keep getting to work as 99% of Ebike riders Can Drive I never Driven because of illness when turned 52 I had trouble riding MTB so following year got Ebike last year got new Hardtail Ebike with 29” Wheels it Easier tide to Work than Mullet set up full suspension Ebike also Can’t afford Lightweight Ebike

[@joemcerlane]

Im gonna need to see the metrics of both rides before i believe anything

[@embn]

You'll be able to see them here! 👉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZ-UYqOtna12mbM

[@ZFit11]

The term e-bike should reference those bikes with throttles, cargo bikes, step thru frames, hub motor bikes, or any bike that is not focused on serious off road riding. The mentality of these riders is that they want to spend the least amount of effort to go for a ride. EMTBs require effort, but you can add more effort. You can session more trail features. You can do more laps and have more fun. In summary, e-bikers focus on the least effort, and EMTB riders have the option of doing MORE during their rides.

[@iandavis5189]

"They want to spend the least amount of effort to go for a ride"... So what!? Nobody's business but theirs.

[@joefurley8573]

Haters cant afford an e bike thats the real reason. 😂😂😂

[@dylanwynroberts]

I have an ebike and a normal bike. Let's be honest, riding an ebike is considerably easier than a normal bike!! 😅

[@embn]

Depends how hard you ride 🤘

[@OldBeanMTB]

Yep without a doubt, I have recently found I record a higher max HR on my eeb compared to my analogue. Mainly down to the increased amount of riding and the sheer involvement.

[@mikebirkett010]

Nommn😊

[@islandaerial3414]

Let the Normies stay ignorant.

[@VE2FGJ]

Sorry but I did not like the video, there are too many "music" scenes, volume is higher, have to lower volume, then increase it back, it is distracting from the subject.

[@user-ux9ll3yk5y]

Ebikes are a bit of let down , maybe I expected to much but they are pretty poor .

[@embn]

How did they let you down? Were they not as powerful as you'd expected? 🤔

[@user-ux9ll3yk5y]

@@embn iv had a Carrara E vengeance rear motor for a few years before replacing the motor and battery ect for a yose aftermarket system as an upgrade . The original suntour system was decent for my needs but the new yose motor is much more powerful. Iv used it for commuting and for days out on bike trails (like the taff trail ect) . Recently purchased a full suspension E bike with the ep6 and yeah was expecting alot more power than the suntour&yose biased on the huge price difference and stats.But I completely understand they are two different set ups. the cheap yose rear motor gets me up the long hill on the way to work with less effort than the ep6 . I'm guessing it's down to the sensors , the more sophisticated ep6 requires force to increase power accordingly while the yose simply need slight turn of the pedals and the motor is at full power . Come the summer I'll start using the full suspension bike on terrain more suited to its construction and see how it performs .

[@embn]

The power outputted is based on cadence, your watts and wheel speed with the more sophisticated systems like you said! This isn't necessarily a bad thing because it allows for a more natural feeling ride (makes it feel like you're super strong, rather than being pushed along). Let us know how it goes out on the trails! 🤙

[@iamcyberpunk68]

You look like you should be in a old age home I am surprised you are on a bike.

[@VOTE-jw6qy]

Sure, using a motor on your bike to climb is sooo difficult! An ebike is not a mountain bike, it is a motor cycle and do not belong on MTB trails.

[@mountaincruiser817]

If it's such a workout why is Steve always wasted when he has a challenge on a regular bike?

[@bradsanders6954]

Name that one time. Its an EMTB channel, he rides EMTB. Your trolling buddy.

[@mountaincruiser817]

There no shame in being less fit Brad. Just an observation.

[@bradsanders6954]

@@mountaincruiser817 Observation of what? What I said was name that one time, Steve was on a non motored bike getting beat. I see him ride EMTB's. What your doing is trolling, but not making sense.....if you think an EMTB cant be used for aerobic training you have for sure never ridden one in anger.

[@FreuderLocks]

Yes, e bikes are lazy. I ride, a lot. The days on the ebikes to not come anywhere close to the same level of exertion as the real bike. Comparing my Garmin activity there is no real comparison. Attempting to justify that 'ebikes aren't lazy' is like calling computer nerds 'e-athletes' (that's a bit harsh). I'm not saying that you don't have to be in good shape to ride either way but my friends who own and ride e bikes vs the real thing are out of shape in comparison.

[@HippyRoss.]

Cheaters

[@anthonymorris5084]

Anybody who maligns ebikes should buy a bike without gears. They are both pedal assist.

[@neilelliston]

They're only hard work when the motor turns off.....

[@bradsanders6954]

Your trolling buddy. Probably not the first time.

[@neilelliston]

@@bradsanders6954 haha. Iv got 2 ebikes

[@marcopaganotto9125]

Ride an emtb for 12 months, then return to riding a standard bike and you will see just how much your strength and stamina has nosedived. What makes me particularly annoyed is emtbs for Children, talk about setting your kid up for a life of laziness!

[@bradsanders6954]

Your trolling buddy. Not everyone idles around on an e bike.

[@OscarHernandez-xx2je]

E-mtbs are way easier. Whoever is saying different is because they don’t push hard while riding an analog mtb. I have both and I’m spent when I’m done riding my analog however, I can ride twice as long on my eMTB and while I feel like I worked out, the feeling is more like I rode a road bike. Maybe the people that say is just as hard are really out of shape and they lollygag on their analog or they are saying this to other people to justify something. Either way is not as hard.

[@jmo2752]

I think the point is (and the purpose of this video presumably) - that yes of course if you ride the same trail at the same pace, it's going to be [potentially] easier on an eMTB... But that fundamentally an eMTB allows you to ride either that same trail at a different pace (ie. you get more of, or at least a different, workout) or can now ride more challenging terrain that you would end up pushing up on a non-assisted bike?

[@DinoAlberini]

E-bikes are assisted motorcycles, their riders erogate much less power than bicycle riders. If you put an average e-biker and an average non assisted biker side by side, the latter would smoke the former in any bike related competition including the ones on e-bikes. E-bikes are tourism, not sports.