Why Evercade needs to sign Sega

[@Oribaa90]

Nice video! I hate Sega for neglecting their history. They simply don't care for anything besides Genesis/Mega Drive. I would love to see more mini consoles made by them or Evercade cartridges with their aracde games. We need a home release of their great arcade collection. Why does nobody care?

[@CatGoneCrazy]

We just need to let them know we still care :)

[@voteDC]

I confess I didn't understand the appeal of Evercade when it came out. Why were people paying for an emulation handheld that could only run a highly curated, by means of what could be licensed, list of games when for the same money a retro handheld could be bought that would run all the same titles and many more. This came to an end when discussing this in the pub with a friend and they pointed out "they aren't selling this to people who want to play games, they are selling to people who want to collect games". That's when it clicked for me, Blaze have successfully tapped into the collector mentality that so many people have.

[@smokeymanson2191]

Yea I've bought every cart and never much play any of them,i play on the other Chinese handhelds your referring too. I look at them and often think why am I buying these things.

[@skald9]

The appeal is also; playing these games legally and really owning that copy, instead of buying a licence to play them on an online platform until someone decides to remove them.

[@voteDC]

@@skald9 This is still emulation and the carts just hold the roms. So what I said is true, Blaze has tapped into the collector mindset because otherwise people would be buying a far more capable retro emulation handheld and loading it up from the high seas. After all, excluding the new indie stuff of course, none of the money from the games is going to the people who actually made the games but the corporations who hold the license.

[@skald9]

@@voteDC Not the point I was making.

[@nikopro6462]

Facts. I also enjoy playing through some more obscure and less known titles

[@OtakuSpielplatz]

SEGA has a fantastic game library! 💙

[@Gametester110-qf8vs]

Sega Exec: "A fantastic game library of *SONIC* titles! And nothing else". Sega fan: "B-but what about Panzer Drago----" Sega Exec: "Lalalalaaaaaaaa" (Covers ears and screeches loudly to block out everyone else)

[@bigbabatunde1218]

​@@Gametester110-qf8vsSega has some amazing games and I P. Sonic, Streets of Rage, Vector man, Baku Baku Animal, Alien Storm, Bonanza Bros and such.

[@bigbabatunde1218]

Blaze (Evercade's parent company) has already had dealings with Sega when they did their Mega Drive plug and play devices years ago. They had licensing deals for the Sonic games, Baku Baku Animal, Alien Storm, Columns, Vector Man, Mean Bean Machine and many others. It could put Evercade in a different league if was to happen but probably wont. Licensing deals are getting more prohibitive these days. Konami could be doing a cart collection also but also probably won't. Turtles In Time and Contra would do wonders for Evercade sales.

[@Cyberbrickmaster1986]

It would be awesome if we had Sega games ranging from Genesis, Master System, Game Gear, Sega CD, Sega 32X and some iconic arcade titles from the 80s and 90s. I don't know if they'll be able to do Dreamcast games, but Saturn games would be trickier, given they're harder to emulate.

[@enderblazer479]

One thing I'd like to see for evercade is a dualshock like controller for 32-64 bit games

[@CatGoneCrazy]

@enderblazer479 That would be cool, though you can already use 3rd Party controllers on the Alpha and I believe the VS too. I made a video using an Xbox pad on Tomb Raider 3 a couple of weeks ago. Works well! An official one would be ace, but they’d then probably have to make a handheld Evercade with sticks built in, and that would start to fragment the user base so I doubt that’ll happen any time soon. Would be cool though, no doubt!

[@Gaming_For_Ages]

Interesting. Could be pretty cool to see some Sega on Evercade. If there’s one thing that grabs my interest it’s Sega so I’d be interested in seeing what they do were they to start putting stuff out on it. Good video mate!

[@CatGoneCrazy]

Thanks! As buffyfantastico also commented here, the fact they recently pulled the Classics Collection from Steam suggests that they're planning *something* so maybe it is Evercade. I did actually email Evercade and Sega for comment, but got a no comment from Evercade and nothing at all from Sega. So we'll see :)

[@TheCruisnDude]

Oh boy would I love to see some Model 2 titles come home! Especially the ones that never saw the light of day at home

[@CatGoneCrazy]

Yeah, it would be so great. The way Top Gear 2 was re-released as Top Racer 2 shows that licenses can be worked around, if that's the issue. I wouldn't enjoy Sega Rally as much if it wasn't obviously that beautiful Castol-liveried Celica, but Iseeing as I play in bumper cam anyway, it could look like a Reliant Robin from the outside. It's the driving that counts. We still haven't seen the full capabilities of the hardware yet, the idea of the 'Giga cart' when it already plays PS1 and N64 games suggests the GD-ROM from Dreamcast... we will see I suppose!

[@Gold2thGaming]

These young kids running Sega would sell the name in a heartbeat surely or is the Evercade too retro for them 🤷🏼

[@MisterRobbie]

Big YES, we need Sega, especially arcade and 32X, especially with the alpha now out, imagine Space Harrier on the Alpha, oh the sound the quick pickup and plays… oh yes please.

[@CatGoneCrazy]

Yeah, it would absolutely rock on Alpha. So would Flicky and After Burner II. I really hope it happens :)

[@georgesiv2082]

We need a purple cart of SEGA game, so many arcade exclusive and/or Japan only games.

[@marklechman2225]

The Super Pocket is a great way to get into the ecosystem, love mine.

[@CatGoneCrazy]

Yeah! I just got a case for mine in the Black Friday sales. Blue and yellow just like the unit :)

[@HtheB61]

0:16 Passes quality assurance checks??! You seems to be new to the Evercade scene... Blaze delivers anything except quality checks....

[@CatGoneCrazy]

@@HtheB61 Blaze has gotten WAY better. I remember the licensed Mega Drive rubbish they used to sell. My point is that emulators playing ROMS off the internet can contain anything. Inappropriate content, unfinished beta or alpha versions of games… at least you’re getting the real deal on Evercade. That was my point. Show me any modern publisher who sells 100% bug-free software!

[@HtheB61]

@CatGoneCrazy Like I've said before, seems like you are pretty new to this Evercade ecosystem. I can count you MANY quality issues that they have with their systems and cartridges and false promises. You want me to?

[@esmith13]

@@CatGoneCrazy You should take a look at any of the C64 ROMs on a C64 Collection cartridge via your PC... You'll find they contain "cracked intros" and trainers in them. For that matter, most of the Evercade ROMs are hash matches for the versions you can find in the usual places. Sure, legally owning the license is amazing and should be supported, but for things like the C64 carts there are much more professional and proper ways it could have been done. P.S.: I love my Evercade stuff, but the truth is, QC should be way better than it is for licensed products - then or now.

[@doctorchelliaphra]

W/the success ofcthe Evercade & SEGA putting these games everywhere - u'd think they would've put these on the platform by now ! ~ ❤

[@CatGoneCrazy]

@@doctorchelliaphra I know, I can only imagine they’ve been waiting for the install base to get bigger. No other reason I can see… unless they have their own retro system coming out. Wait… surely not? Delisting games from Steam… New games in development… surely not?!

[@steveothehulk]

The original resident evil games would make a great cart

[@CatGoneCrazy]

@@steveothehulk Yes! Perfect fit.

[@goon1350]

I would love to see a Road Rash Collection.

[@CatGoneCrazy]

@@goon1350 Yes! Oooooo I kept thinking Konami was the only other possibility but EA would be ace! So many great old games and they’ve done it before on PSP. Road Rash is so great. Love the first one most.

[@nikopro6462]

Blaze been chasing Sega for years. Question is will it ever happen. Who knows would love to see it.

[@CatGoneCrazy]

@@nikopro6462 They did make official Mega Drives that played real cartridges (badly) some 14 years ago. I don’t know whether the poor reviews affected their relationship, but there is at least a relationship there. Who knows indeed :)

[@nearvanaman]

When you line them all up like this, it's evident that they have enough IP to create their own "Segacade".

[@CatGoneCrazy]

@@nearvanaman Or, indeed, DREAMCAST 2.

[@Parlimant_Strifey]

Sega doesn't even really take care of Sega's own past. Seems they also believe in that cannibalizing sales thing, hence why they seem to repeat the last 40 odd games every few years. They only really ever started taking care of their past in Japan with the Sega Ages collections on the PS2, ever since they have knocked it off.

[@GrooveSpaceArk]

Why don't they make native ports for it instead of emulating?

[@CatGoneCrazy]

@@GrooveSpaceArk More work, I guess. Donut Dodo and Cathedral are native, I believe.

[@clarku4]

Great video. I'd buy all of these day one. This would send Evercade into the stratosphere. However while watching this I couldnt help thinking why does Sega not create their own cheap hardware that can deliver all of the things talked about here or maybe a subscription service with all of this. Well plans may be in the works with the mass delisting currently happening so who knows.

[@CatGoneCrazy]

@@clarku4 I once suggested exactly that to the Sega PR rep, I had convinced myself there was a space for a budget price Dreamcast 2. The rep said nice idea but not even slightly happening. But the delisting is very promising. Mind you, they delisted Sonic games to make way for Origins and that was mostly worse so anything can happen lol

[@antwango]

waheeeeey towelly!!! what happened to PSM2 podcast with the lads!!! oh actually i remember you were on games radar!!!.... PSM2 pod was waaaaaay ahead of its time now with everyone doing podcasts it was hilarious as heck as well!, guys should be on PS Access or something! i binged PSM2 podcast when working and it was hilarious as F i cant remember the chief who was obsessed with MGS etc

[@CatGoneCrazy]

@@antwango MGS guy was surely Dave Meikleham? Yeah we had so much fun! GRUK podcast was also a great fun to do, I know PSM2 folks had a load of fun with theirs. I saw Dave Houghton last week, as it happens. Doing well :) Cheers!

[@antwango]

@@CatGoneCrazy Oh not Dave.... you were all a great cast LOL sorry Dave but was it Nathan? reminds me of Nathan Ditum from PS... but he was like the blonde haired guy and was usually the host.... aww man youre hilarious chats and it was just so ahead of its time just before mags went out of fashion! Dude you sure youre not a vampire!??? you havent aged!!!?? you also sound the frikking same!!!

[@willrobinson7599]

Sega are really missing easy money here , id be happy to buy most carts as huge sega fan

[@CatGoneCrazy]

@@willrobinson7599 Yeah, I would honestly buy single game carts if it was actual Model 2 games.

[@andromedaone3640]

If Sega joined with Evercade they would kick Nintendo into touch and rule this type of gameing once again.

[@thinkingwisedawg2508]

I would like to see a Shinobi collection and a Shining Force Collection

[@CatGoneCrazy]

@@thinkingwisedawg2508 I also want that for you :)

[@thinkingwisedawg2508]

Maybe some Neo Geo too

[@VOAN]

Likely the Genesis, Master System, Sega CD, and Game Gear stuffs may be possible but when it comes to Arcade, 32X, Sega Saturn, and Dreamcast Sega is tone deaf and doesn't want to bother with those. They said it themselves that they make more profit from Sonic and Genesis re-releases than anything else so they're not gonna bother with anything else. Likely if they do it's just going to be a one time thing and that's it.

[@CatGoneCrazy]

@@VOAN Sadly true. However, if Evercade’s powerful enough and it’s just selling ROMs they’ve nothing to lose. Fingers crossed from me 🤞

[@fancyflyfox]

Great sega old game listing but it's very likely that 1.5G cpu can not deliver any spec beyond genesis.

[@CatGoneCrazy]

It's already doing N64 and PS1 games though? Actua Soccer, Hardcore 4x4, Glover, Tomb Raider 1 2 and 3... there's headroom yet.

[@fancyflyfox]

@@CatGoneCrazy Unfortunately there was a huge requirement leap due to the very unique architecture.I did some experiment with the similar arm cpu of evercade. Assuming no frame drop emulation of Genesis need 100% baseline frequency, 2D ps1 games is 80%, snes game with fx chip is 140%, saturn (titan) is 250% , DC(noami) is about 180%

[@HydroxiaSparklebutt]

@@CatGoneCrazy I'd love to see Saturn too, but its a nightmare to emulate, thats before the lightweight hardware for Evercade

[@esmith13]

@@HydroxiaSparklebutt Not to mention them having less RAM than a $40 handheld from China... Evercade products only have either 256MB or 512MB or RAM.

[@dannymormone]

I'm not sure what's happening with Sega's retro stuff these days, I bought all of the Sega Ages games on the Switch and then Sega stopped doing those and not released anything else retro related since which is worrying.

[@CatGoneCrazy]

@@dannymormone M2 ran out of things to port, I think. But those Switch conversions are immense! Something’s coming or they wouldn’t have delisted the classics collection from Steam. No question.

[@dwightdixon8508]

All those Sega games that have never been released outside the arcade to finally being enjoyed by Evercade users the world over. Sega, there’s money to be had and ppl want to give it to you

[@CatGoneCrazy]

It seems so obvious when you put it like that!

[@yandman26]

Sadly none of this will ever happen. It would be incredible, but we don't yet have one arcade racer on the platform, despite both Jaleco and Gaelco having released great racers. They will never licence Sega, because they don't charge enough for the carts. I wish they'd put them up to 30, even 35, and go after genuinely big licences instead of mostly low rent filler. This platform will never reach it's true potential until they do this.

[@CatGoneCrazy]

@@yandman26 I think they’ve been building a user base so far to have something to pitch with when they go for bigger licenses. It is gaining momentum. The Game Gear one is surely an easy win for both parties at least?

[@yandman26]

​@@CatGoneCrazyYou think they've been meandering for four years in order to build a user base? Games build a user base. It's always too safe, too easy, too much filler junk. Plus the actual system is poorly engineered. We still don't have dip switches because they clearly cannot retrospectively implement them for the system. They're having to add updates to individual games. Also take into account the control schemes that were broken for the better part of two years, you have to question those making the decisions. I am 1000% behind the principal of the system and have many carts and systems, but generally it's hitting way below it's potential. However the new Toaplan cart 3 and 4 are going to be top tier.

[@CatGoneCrazy]

@@yandman26 Well, considering Blaze’s old Mega Drive systems were absolutely dreadful, the massive strides they’re making in the past two years or so have made me very happy indeed. You’re right about the dip switches, I don’t understand that one myself. And yes, hitting below potential, certainly, but getting to a stage now where it’s definitely good enough to be taken seriously, and maybe that’s what’s swung it now - if it is indeed Sega they’ve signed.

[@yandman26]

@CatGoneCrazy My moneys on SNK. The licenses already exist and are readily available. I wish it were SEGA arcade games, but it's not gonna happen. I'd love some PC Engine. Winds and Gates of Thunder on one cart would be incredible.

[@CatGoneCrazy]

@@yandman26 I’d want Super Sidekicks 2 or 3. Or BOTH! But yes that would indeed be one people have asked for, and if anything, SNK are even more about selling their old games than Sega. But I still hope it’s Sega lol

[@stijnvonck1431]

Evercade need to sign Snk/NeoGeo so we can get a metal slug cartridge, fatal Fury and art of fighting

[@CatGoneCrazy]

@@stijnvonck1431 That would also rock. I really like the Neo Geo Mini :)

[@stijnvonck1431]

@CatGoneCrazy it's been announced 😲 coming in 2025

[@buffyfantastico]

Wouldn't be surprised if it is SEGA given that they are delisting most of their catalogue from xbox/playstation/switch/steam digital stores on December 6th. Gives people an incentive to buy it for the evercade if that is the only place that they can do so. So much that they could do but you can be pretty certain that if/when they do ever do anything it will just be the usual SEGA regurgitated Megadrive Classics collection that has releasesd on every other system and even then they will no doubt split it across multiple cartridges.

[@CatGoneCrazy]

Though I do find that suggestion a touch cynical, sadly you're probably right! Even so, Flicky, Sonic, Streets of Rage 2 and many more from that usual lot would be great on Evercade. Especially the Alpha!

[@buffyfantastico]

@@CatGoneCrazy Don't get me wrong i would love them to do everything in your video and more, and not just on evercade but on xbox/playstation/switch etc too but have seen little from them other than slight variations of the exact same 40-60 megadrive games given a minor spit & polish for each new console generation it is hard to see them doing anything else. It is made even more infuriating that some of these things do actually exist to play today but only if you are prepared to both buy and play multiple hours of several different yakuza games in order to get to them and as part of things like gameworks on Dreamcast that never had a western release.

[@CatGoneCrazy]

@@buffyfantastico You’re absolutely right, they did release the same stuff for ages, but the Astro City Mini and Mega Drive Mini 2 do at least suggest some different ones. And that Yakuza had those games in at all bodes well. We can but hope. They do need to start promoting their old IPs if anyone’s gonna care about the new versions after all. And yes, doesn’t need to be Evercade exclusive. Sega Rally on ANYTHING works for me :)

[@TheJastaprasta]

They have. Next year carts are coming.

[@CatGoneCrazy]

Where are you reading this?

[@CZpersi]

@@CatGoneCrazy They have not specified, which IP they have made the agreement with. They have only hinted in their YT community post about a week ago that they struck a deal with "an IP highly requested by fans" or something along these lines.

[@CatGoneCrazy]

@@CZpersi Ah yes, that was the inspiration for this video and the tweet is screenshotted near the end of the vid. It’s not been confirmed who it is. Could be Konami.

[@steveothehulk]

They need better hardware better speakers and a better screen the volume on the exp is shocking low

[@CatGoneCrazy]

@@steveothehulk Yeah it is quiet. The screen’s alright though. Not like an Analogue Pocket, but then what is? :)

[@steveothehulk]

@@CatGoneCrazy id like to see them do a premium evercade exp with oled screen and high qality speakers the current exp is just ok not great, i hope to mod mine at some point with new screen and speakers

[@RavenShinyThings]

Because they are were the largest arcade company?

[@CatGoneCrazy]

@@RavenShinyThings Nailed it. But ALSO! All the reasons in the video :)

[@RavenShinyThings]

@@CatGoneCrazy yeah i know i was just highlighting the products branding ie evercade (forever arcade)

[@CatGoneCrazy]

@@RavenShinyThings Oooo you know I forget the ‘cade’ bit these days. First time you hear the word you can see the blend, but these days the word is just a word in its own right in my mind! Good point well made :)

[@Robert_Shmigelsky]

Personally, I would rather see more native games on the system, a kin to what they did with Duke Nukem. I'm sure there's another game out there they could give the same treatment to, which you would give fence sitters such as I more incentive to buy the system.

[@crazyoldschool6342]

I would love sega physical games on evercade . However... Evercade can't even get capcom to put out physical games on evercade. The only way I see it is another handheld or bartop arcade.

[@CatGoneCrazy]

@@crazyoldschool6342 I’ve only just bought the Alpha 😭 I really hope that’s not the case!

[@crazyoldschool6342]

@CatGoneCrazy me too

[@futureskeletons66669]

Would prefer Konami arcade/Konami MSX collection and a Gradius collection inc Nemesis 90 Kai and Gradius Gaiden.

[@CatGoneCrazy]

There's always one ;) Seriously, though, of course that would be cool too.

[@pferreira1983]

Putting the Master System versions of those games would make more sense. To be honest Evercade need to sort out their Discord before they begin signing anyone else up. It's an incredibly hypocritical and toxic place. 😆

[@CatGoneCrazy]

@@pferreira1983 lol I’ve never tried going on it, thanks for the warning 😅 But yeah what a great idea. Master System is actually pretty great - loads of games run at 60fps so have aged unusually well. An unusually arcade-like experience. Would be a great fit, good shout :)

[@pferreira1983]

@@CatGoneCrazy Some of the SMS games were actually optimised for 50fps if they came out after support ended in North America. For Brazil due to the region those particular games ran at 60fps but weren't intended to. You can tell because the music is sped up.

[@CatGoneCrazy]

@@pferreira1983 Ah the opposite of English Mega Drive games! Slow Sonic with slow Sonic music. Always felt like it was playing in slow motion when I was a kid - turns out it was!

[@pferreira1983]

@@CatGoneCrazy I really never had a problem with PAL Sonic to be honest. It was much more an issue I found on Golden Axe. But yeah, SMS games made for Europe were supposed to run in 50fps, Brazil was considered the next market so there was consideration for the correct speed. A good example to try is Lucky Dime Caper. Playing it in Brazil causes the game to be much faster than it's supposed to be. I asked one of the Retro Arch emulator developers to have a 50fps toggle so people can play the games at the correct speed.

[@CatGoneCrazy]

@@pferreira1983 And did they add it?

[@thinkingwisedawg2508]

Evercade needs Sega and Konami

[@CatGoneCrazy]

@@thinkingwisedawg2508 Yes! Konami is the only other really big name that they might have signed.

[@jean-baptistegoupillon4795]

Not sure SEGA wants to be involve with Evercade ...

[@CatGoneCrazy]

@@jean-baptistegoupillon4795 Well, someone big has just been signed, someone frequently requested. And aside from Konami there can’t be many others left that fit the description!

[@XmasTablet]

Bro u think Blade doesn't know how yo business? It took em this long yo get Capcom 🤣😂

[@CatGoneCrazy]

They actually already had deals with Sega in the past, releasing several Mega Drive branded products including a console that actually played old Mega Drive carts. It sucked, which can't have helped their relationship, but they're definitely not strangers.

[@chrismills214]

Why does anyone need to sign Sega.

[@CatGoneCrazy]

Because they made some of the greatest games of all time? Come on, now.

[@XmasTablet]

Pasted quality control 🤣🤔 u having a laugh? I've collected every Evercade carts and there are plenty of bugs.

[@CatGoneCrazy]

They do patch bugs with cart updates. But with licensed software there's more of a chance of it working as intended than if you emulated a pirated copy. Who knows what's in those ROMs.

[@antwango]

ive spent stupid money on retro handhelds just this month alone im not proud i really should stop watching these channels and reminiscing XDDDD

[@CatGoneCrazy]

@@antwango I think just choosing one and sticking to it is a good idea. I use Evercade for licensed retro stuff and an Analogue Pocket for playing retro games I own. I’m not into emulation of stuff I don’t own, doesn’t have the same magic. But there’s nothing wrong with preferring old games, they are often superb.

[@Nobby19891989]

I would prefer snes games. 😮

[@CatGoneCrazy]

@@Nobby19891989 Never gonna happen, sadly! But I’m sure you have a Switch ;)

[@Nobby19891989]

@ funnily enough I’ve just brought my lad a switch for Xmas - the Zelda package. Also I recently brought a Hyperkin Supaboy, impressive bit of kit.

[@CatGoneCrazy]

@@Nobby19891989 Very nice! If you get the Nintendo Online Membership you can play loads of SNES games on the Switch, and official too so they run perfectly. Enjoy :)

[@LiamLoweguest]

There's nothing in it for sega it a lost caused you just need to look at Nintendo with the emulation laws

[@CatGoneCrazy]

@@LiamLoweguest Evercade is legal though. They acquire official licenses. You’re right that Nintendo fiercely protects its IP, as it should. But even Nintendo reportedly uses other people’s open source emulation for its old games. Emulation itself is actually legal, it’s only the duplication of ROMs breaking copyright that’s illegal, which wouldn’t be the case on unmodded Evercades. Also there is surely lots in it for Sega, namely free money from yet more legal sales of old games they don’t have to do anything to (unless names need changing/sprites altered like OutRun and After Burner). Then there’s increased brand awareness in a new generation who were too young to have played the classics in the 80s and 90s, which would be very useful now so many of these IPs have remakes in active development. Sorry to sound so contradictory, truly, but basically I completely disagree :)

[@LiamLoweguest]

@CatGoneCrazy there's nothing in it perfect example the ps1 mini was a failure the only reason it eventually became successful was due to it being soft modded

[@CatGoneCrazy]

@@LiamLoweguest Well, PS1 Mini didn’t run the built-in games properly. Weird frame drops in Ridge Racer Type 4, for instance. It also lacked loads of stand-out games you’d want to see on it and so it was panned and failed. If there was no money in retro collections, Evercade would have folded immediately, instead they have 10 different hardware iterations now and more than 50 licensed cartridges. It would be an odd business to keep releasing these things if there wasn’t any money to be made!

[@LiamLoweguest]

@CatGoneCrazy evercade is a small franchise compared to sega etc you seem to miss the concept what would sega gain

[@CatGoneCrazy]

@@LiamLoweguest The games exist already, Evercade would port them so no extra work, Sega would have the right to refuse if the games don’t run well enough… it’s just free money. Nothing to lose.

[@garethbeaton8414]

Its all delisted naw realy

[@CatGoneCrazy]

As from December 4 I believe. So still time to get on it, though it's already missing the first three Sonic games because of Sonic Origins.