Why Everyone Keeps Sending Their Telescope Here

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AstroBackyard

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I went to Starfront Obsevatories in Texas to see if it was worth all the hype. It's a Bortle 1 dark-sky site with over 200 clear nights a year.
You send them your astrophotography setup, and they install it on a pier for you to control remotely from home. The price depends on how big your telescope system is.
Even though I am not a remote imager myself, I can see why many others are jumping in. You can compare Starfront to the other remote observatories in our detailed guide: astrobackyard....
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@tombock336
@tombock336 2 күн бұрын
Keep seeing my scope in the video! Been loving my experience having a rig there.....Starfront staff has been awesome.
@DSOImager
@DSOImager 2 күн бұрын
Reading through the comments here, I think a lot of folks are forgetting that there are different aspects to this hobby. We each have different parts that we get enjoyment from. For example, I know people who love to tinker with their rigs. Some people enjoy getting the most out of modest gear. Some people enjoy being outside. And yes.. some people like to sit at a desk, remote in and harvest data. For me, I don't like tinkering. I don't enjoy the routine of setting up, polar aligning, tearing down.. that part of the hobby got old real fast for me. Designing a rig, putting it together, and then collecting data.. lots of data, that is what I enjoy. And yes.. I enjoy processing.. sometimes I wish I could process as a career, lol. Anyway, I don't think anyone should besmirch anyone else for putting their scope at a remote site. I know Trevor was kidding but I'm seeing a little tension in the comments.. reminds me of the reaction from some when Smart Telescopes starting showing up. Personally, I run three rigs in my bortle 5 backyard. I'm not far from starfront and have considered possibly sending a small rig with a OSC down there. The price is excellent and all the rigs they are housing demonstrates pent up demand for this kind of service. I wish them well. CS!
@regp5
@regp5 21 сағат бұрын
@@DSOImager How dare you come to the internet and be reasonable. For shame!
@Jcorban08
@Jcorban08 10 сағат бұрын
@@regp5😂
@Jcorban08
@Jcorban08 10 сағат бұрын
Jokes often contain a hint of truth, revealing how someone is really feeling.
@DeepSpaceAstro
@DeepSpaceAstro 2 күн бұрын
Wow he's really building up! On another note, it had a kinda eerie walking through a graveyard vibe, when Ash said, "Oh there he is."
@Orozco_PNW
@Orozco_PNW 2 күн бұрын
I bet it sounds cool when things start up and everything is slewing! ⚙⚙
@NebulaStarsandGalaxies-g5e
@NebulaStarsandGalaxies-g5e Күн бұрын
I've wanted an observatory of my own for 30 years. Job, kids, wife, etc. kept that from happening. Dream almost died. I live under Bortle 8 skies with probably less than 30-40 clear nights a year. Having a scope at SFRO, while not my OWN observatory has opened up a whole new world of possibilities. And I can still have a scope in my backyard and shoot narrow band when the conditions allow. Now I am drinking from a firehose of data to process. A good problem to have.
@sageastreaus7905
@sageastreaus7905 2 күн бұрын
I too was thinking of sending one of my rigs in time too but nothing beats going out on your own, finding a nice spot, and taking pictures of the night sky on your own, under a blanket of stars. I definitely understand the convenience of sending your setup there if you arent able to take pictures every night, or have access to dark skies, but for me, im lucky to live in Nevada where i also get extremely dark skies and most nights are clear. But amazing thing what Astrofalls is doing for astrophotographers who dont have those privileges
@dustinballinger5661
@dustinballinger5661 2 күн бұрын
it helps justify more than one scope... so there is that
@regp5
@regp5 2 күн бұрын
@@sageastreaus7905 A lot of us do both.
@NebulaStarsandGalaxies-g5e
@NebulaStarsandGalaxies-g5e Күн бұрын
DO BOTH!!!
@astro7996
@astro7996 2 күн бұрын
"Bunch of cheaters!" that was the best part of the video :) clear skies!
@weatherandsky
@weatherandsky 2 күн бұрын
Ya I laughed so hard. Was not expecting that🤣👍
@OMaMaRMY
@OMaMaRMY 2 күн бұрын
I can just google any astrophotography photo I want how about that 😏 Visual is king 😔✊
@NebulaStarsandGalaxies-g5e
@NebulaStarsandGalaxies-g5e Күн бұрын
Haters gonna hate..... :)
@Rick_B52
@Rick_B52 2 күн бұрын
I think it's an amazing concept and such a great way to allow people to get photos they would never be able to get if you lived in highly light polluted skies.
@Paul_Johnston
@Paul_Johnston 18 сағат бұрын
"But when the community signs on it doesn't feel so lonely anymore..." That hit so hard for me. I need to get out more myself even with as busy as life as gotten. There isn't much of a community for astrophotography here where I live so seeing more of this facility does make me very happy.
@AstroBackyard
@AstroBackyard 17 сағат бұрын
Glad you felt that too - after I recorded that I almost hugged Nathan
@KartikAtre
@KartikAtre 2 күн бұрын
More power to Bray and colleagues! Lovely to see so many telescopes there and so many people in this hobby. To me however, and as an amateur, the journey is as important as the destination. To wait for clear skies, get frustrated, wait again, then get a few, scramble to set up your gear, struggle with seeing, and finally, finally see those subs role through...Now that's fun! However, I'm glad such options exist.
@leedavies9158
@leedavies9158 3 сағат бұрын
Well said!
@enriqueboeneker
@enriqueboeneker 2 күн бұрын
I have my rig up and running there, and I am so very happy!
@lukomatico
@lukomatico Күн бұрын
Such a cool video mate, and it's nice to see opinions from folks on both sides of the fence on the remote vs backyard debate! - Both sides are right really, as long as a person is having fun and getting value from their time (and money!) - that said, I'm certainly more of a backyard guy myself, the data/tech side etc I could care less about, it's more of the experience of capturing it and making the photos that I enjoy, I really think I'd lose that by going remote! Clear skies mate! :-)
@AstroBackyard
@AstroBackyard 17 сағат бұрын
Thanks Luke! Totally agree
@paulsmaglik5063
@paulsmaglik5063 2 күн бұрын
I am ready to ship my rig there next week I can't wait.
@StarPicturesMiami
@StarPicturesMiami 2 күн бұрын
I've been live at Star Front since last August. My experience has been fantastic. The tech support is great. Been imaging for 11 nights straight!
@EdElliott57
@EdElliott57 2 күн бұрын
They just received my packages. So looking forward to get started down there.
@gregsuskin7366
@gregsuskin7366 Күн бұрын
Incredible facility. Great to see how much it's grown since Bray first introduced it.
@tomatomaeg
@tomatomaeg 2 күн бұрын
I love the business plan. Steady and predictable monthly cash flow to expand more
@indysbike3014
@indysbike3014 2 күн бұрын
I never thought I could image at daytime. A different timezone gives many possibilities.
@capturethephotons2078
@capturethephotons2078 22 сағат бұрын
I feel you. i love my backyard and am lucky enough to shoot on a week night and get up for work, shoot flats while i get ready, pull the telescope off the mount in a quick routine, pull my counter weight then cover my mount for the day and come back to the same backyard and do that process in reverse. Astrobackyarder foooo life here!!! clear skies
@perry3928
@perry3928 2 күн бұрын
What an amazing program. Cheers starfront!
@ZxChase
@ZxChase 2 күн бұрын
My rig is basically your travel rig . Besides the camera. I have a Canon EOS Rebel T3i, SA 2i , and the Rokinon lens. I’m in southern New Jersey. I am in bortle class 6 as well and every season I learn something new! I understand why people pay for this type of service but I would rather do it all on my own. $199 isn’t too steep when put in perspective… To each their own! I love the journey im on! Trevor you are the whole reason I pulled the trigger and got into all of this. Thank you and I hope you have plenty clear nights this fall / winter. 🌌 ❤
@weatherchaser1166
@weatherchaser1166 2 күн бұрын
After trying to add all of the scopes up, I figured around 50k a month min coming in once they fill up. To have all of your setup and trouble shooting done for you , with salaries, land, upkeep etc, that is a deal.
@NebulaeFlames
@NebulaeFlames Күн бұрын
Oh Man! That "Bunch of Cheaters" was unexpected yet epic 😆🤣 Loved it 😂❤
@LouisXIVStreet
@LouisXIVStreet Күн бұрын
I had no idea this was available. I think it is fantastic. We are in a world of increasing light pollution, and not everybody can go to a dark site., and I am sure there are people who have physical limitations that would benefit from this. I finally got a Star Adventurer and a new tripod, and I am in the process of figuring it out. I enjoy your videos. Thank you.
@jimb7931
@jimb7931 2 күн бұрын
I keep seeing my scope also! Been up for 9 nights now and had a great run so far with weather. Staff is great! Love to get out under the stars, but the weather in north east is spotty at best.
@briankotak403
@briankotak403 Күн бұрын
Pretty cool Texas ranch! Love those long horns! Bray saw a need and filled a niche. Good on him. I’ll just continue to brave the partly cloudy skies and frozen fingers! lol. Dr B from Manitoba, Canada 🇨🇦
@kcole0619
@kcole0619 2 күн бұрын
What an incredible business model! Love what you're doing. Maybe I'll have a scope there someday? In addition to customers purchasing and shipping their preferred scope setups (i.e. custom pricing model), you could also have a tiered model of pre-defined systems that customers can choose to subscribe to. This would make setup and support more efficient.
@petermoy7934
@petermoy7934 Күн бұрын
High point scientific actually is advertising such a turnkey system. It’s on their homepage.
@pattimaclaughlin8059
@pattimaclaughlin8059 Күн бұрын
What an amazing idea this is! Thanks for showing us!!
@Mockingbird57
@Mockingbird57 7 сағат бұрын
I'm really excited about Starfront! They are only a couple hours drive from me and I'm planning to build a remote rig or three to send there next year. I currently run 4 rigs from my bortle 5 backyard, filled with trees. I have no access to south or west, so I miss a good bit of targets. For health reasons, I am unable to travel, so shipping some gear to Starfront works for me!
@Dbentzjr
@Dbentzjr 2 күн бұрын
I would be trying to protect that area as much as possible against the elements such as weather, animals, etc. That is a LOT of telescopes in one place. They look very close together, I hope the calculations are correct for allowing ultimate freedom of movement between setups without worry about damage or other failures. Also, there should be at least a skeleton crew of well trained staff to oversee the lenses remain clean and clear. That place is a major responsibility and I pray that God oversees the entire project. What an awesome way to look at the night sky from some of the most peaceful and dark skies on the planet!!! I very much admire this. Clear skies!!!
@dasimcoes
@dasimcoes Күн бұрын
What an awesome idea for people that can’t image from home.
@MrGp3po
@MrGp3po 2 күн бұрын
Like many here, I have multiple scopes and it would be fun to have one in a remote, darker sky observatory. But I do enjoy the set up under the stars in my backyard, getting everything going, then just sitting back and watching the sky or playing with a visual scope. Gathering data is the most enjoyable part; post processing (mainly because I lack skills and don't enjoy all the computer time) is my least favorite. Maybe some day. Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours!
@vincejenkins1143
@vincejenkins1143 2 күн бұрын
Wow mind blowing to have this facility! Fab video Trev
@Steaphany
@Steaphany Күн бұрын
My Texas home and property offers a rural Bortle 3 with nearly complete view to the horizon.
@cuppasciencejoe
@cuppasciencejoe Күн бұрын
Haha! "A bunch of cheaters" that last line in there put a smile on my face. But I think it's really cool what is being done here. And as you stated, I love the opportunity it offers people who might otherwise never have it. Super awesome!
@Schizoid137
@Schizoid137 2 күн бұрын
I'm curious as to what could be accomplished if all those telescopes were to work collectively on a task. Kind of like when they link radio telescopes around the world to effectively make a bigger scope.
@regp5
@regp5 2 күн бұрын
Well they discovered a planetary nebula so theres that.
@brentnewton7055
@brentnewton7055 Күн бұрын
As mentioned the "collective telescope" is already a plan, and entirely based on volunteer time since these are all privately owned. However this doesn't work quite like interferometry as that requires the light (whether radio or optical) to all hit a sensor at the same time in order to gain resolution improvements. The VLA has an interferometer based array but they use a system of tunnels and mirrors to ensure the light all reaches a given point simultaneously.
@Schizoid137
@Schizoid137 Күн бұрын
@@brentnewton7055 Interesting. Thanks for explaining.
@richardlowe5880
@richardlowe5880 Күн бұрын
There is a lot of merit to both arguments, I sent my B team rig ( which got me some off colored comments in the Discord Server) I live in Central Cal and this summer has been brutal, plus Bortal 7 skies. I keep my A rig and head to Kings Canyon whenever I have time, and the weather permits. Hoping ultimately for a good experience at StarFront !
@leeswanson4960
@leeswanson4960 Күн бұрын
Im impressed with those roll off roof buildings. You should do a video with info about them.
@murraymacd
@murraymacd 2 күн бұрын
😂 it’s one of my dreams to put a rig in one of these locations in South Africa, close to the Southern African Large Telescope.
@murraymacd
@murraymacd 2 күн бұрын
Or to start a business hosting telescopes there.
@chrisstanley5647
@chrisstanley5647 2 күн бұрын
@@murraymacd Exactly what I was thinking re: a move to Thailand
@stefanschneider3681
@stefanschneider3681 2 күн бұрын
Great video as always. And beautiful shot of the Milky Way, Lagoon anf Trifid popping out beautifully 🤩! But did you say „widefield“? I just re-discovered my beautiful 14mm lens 😅! I haven’t done the math, but it sure feels like it’s covering over a quarter of the whole horizon 😳🤩
@3DAstroTC
@3DAstroTC 2 күн бұрын
Folks buying one of the most portable mounts on the market to send to a remote site....aight then. But seriously though, I never bothered to look into this place and hear of personal reasoning for it, much respect Bray, and your team.
@mechkiller31st
@mechkiller31st 2 күн бұрын
Cheaters as they may be, I would rather people get into and enjoy this hobby any way they can, then for people to NOT have this option just so I feel better about my Bortle 6 skies and 2-5 clear nights a month
@ObservaDome
@ObservaDome 2 күн бұрын
❤🌌Trevor Don't Be An Observatory Hater, That's Just Truly Snooty Nonsense. That's "It's My Way Or The Highway" Talk. You Should Be Promoting More Inclusion Into The Astrophotography Hobby. Are You Afraid This Alternative Method Of Capturing The Cosmos Might Decrease Your Channel's Views Or What? I've Got My ObservaDome That Is So User-Friendly & You Don't Have To Waste All That Time Setting Up Your Rig Each Time You View The Cosmos. Plus It Helps Keep A Telescope Safe & Secure. Clear Skies From Rick🌌❤
@bruno3005
@bruno3005 Күн бұрын
Looks great, this site with all the gear. But for me, actually it is not a real option to send a whole gear to Texas from Switzerland because the freigth costs are tremendous and would be sufficient for another gear. What I'm wondering is, how this is insured. Are the costs covered in case of a rebuilt and replacement of the gear after a tornado visited the location? I hope that will never happen.
@chrisruthford4492
@chrisruthford4492 6 сағат бұрын
I live in rural Texas, and have no need for this. But I'm glad that city folk have this available for them.😂
@leedavies9158
@leedavies9158 3 сағат бұрын
I enjoy getting images way more with my star tracker under clear skies. But i get much better images with my SW SA gti. Id love a better rig but between a young family and lack of time i have modest expectations and just enjoy any time under the stars. Everyone is on the journey, some just go further than others. Amateur, backyard, travel, remove. Do what gives you enjoyment
@cmahar3
@cmahar3 Күн бұрын
I am curious about their setup procedure. Whatever it is, it has to be reliable. Do they publish such things? Cable routing strategies, technical details of their setups, things they do every time they set up a scope.
@PVDriveWest
@PVDriveWest 2 күн бұрын
Love the ending line!
@gabrielwiklund6444
@gabrielwiklund6444 Күн бұрын
Great video and sense of humour!
@weatherchaser1166
@weatherchaser1166 Күн бұрын
What do you guys do for security?
@waynewheaton3210
@waynewheaton3210 2 күн бұрын
Would have been funny to see a Seestar in there.
@bnkohrn
@bnkohrn 2 күн бұрын
What the fuck is a Seestart?
@waynewheaton3210
@waynewheaton3210 2 күн бұрын
Nothing against the Seestar
@NebulaStarsandGalaxies-g5e
@NebulaStarsandGalaxies-g5e Күн бұрын
I think there people working on just that.
@erikmardiste
@erikmardiste 2 күн бұрын
Now this makes sense cheers.
@jimcumming7966
@jimcumming7966 22 сағат бұрын
Never heard of this...crazy...crazy cool
@Jcorban08
@Jcorban08 2 күн бұрын
Thank you for the super interesting video!
@OGParzoval
@OGParzoval 2 күн бұрын
Have you not setup the star hut after the move by now?
@spaceadobo
@spaceadobo 2 күн бұрын
Nicely done 🫡
@masonmcneil-jv9vy
@masonmcneil-jv9vy 2 күн бұрын
The moment I saw all those telescopes I was thinking all of them were 1 million all combined 🤯
@douweodh4146
@douweodh4146 Күн бұрын
I like astrophotography from the backyard but I understand that people want a scope under Bortle 1 skies
@StarlancerAstro
@StarlancerAstro Күн бұрын
Because the price is decent, these 800 dollar piers at other remote sites is way to much for a small consumer scope, it's like buying a large Takahashi and throwing it out every year.
@GorillaSnapper
@GorillaSnapper 2 күн бұрын
Not a bad living, mans making 340k a year just out of those 3 sheds, once the other two are up and running it'll be 5-700k a year just in subscription fees.
@Alan-vk6bk
@Alan-vk6bk 2 күн бұрын
I wish I lived in the US!! Can you tell me what the music is called?? I've heard it alot on astro related you tube videos. Great video btw
@dustinballinger5661
@dustinballinger5661 2 күн бұрын
You don't have to be US based? people from all over the world have sent scopes there.
@rickzirkle4557
@rickzirkle4557 2 күн бұрын
Question if all those scopes go after the same target I assume the pictures you get would be crazy using all of the data
@johnsmith-rd9rr
@johnsmith-rd9rr 2 күн бұрын
Thats been done
@neilhankey2514
@neilhankey2514 Күн бұрын
I can't miss the connection to my scopes under my enviromental conditions, doing my best to enjoy the hobby. Part of the hobby is improving your equipment / technique etc. Like you said at the end, it feels like cheating. However, if you can afford it, and its what you want, then go for it.
@deansongberg6891
@deansongberg6891 2 күн бұрын
I get the idea of it but i would find it a hassle if i wanted my camera rotated to frame a specific target or if you needed to ring up and ask if someone can put a flat panel on to take calibration frames. On the other hand could you image every one of those scopes collectively pointing at one target on a collaborative image.
@brentnewton7055
@brentnewton7055 Күн бұрын
More automation features are certainly needed to be truly remote, but motorized rotators and flats panels are still an option even from home
@NebulaStarsandGalaxies-g5e
@NebulaStarsandGalaxies-g5e Күн бұрын
I have been imaging there for a month. I have not needed any support from the team there. I can shoot darks and flats, rotate the camera, reboot my computer, turn power on and off, and get automated information about the status of the roof and the weather.
@-SpaceFrog-
@-SpaceFrog- 2 күн бұрын
How are they able to access it from hundreds or thousands of miles away?
@regp5
@regp5 2 күн бұрын
@@-SpaceFrog- Internet.
@NebulaStarsandGalaxies-g5e
@NebulaStarsandGalaxies-g5e Күн бұрын
I live in NJ and have a rig there but there are people in Asia and Europe too.
@ManNoName-c9u
@ManNoName-c9u 2 күн бұрын
Isn't there something missing imaging remotely? Like looking up at the sky?
@dustinballinger5661
@dustinballinger5661 2 күн бұрын
To see clouds and light polution... nope, not missing it all all
@LandonReid-l9l
@LandonReid-l9l 2 күн бұрын
Good thing I didn't send my eyeballs there with my telescope, so I can still look up at the sky.
@adamg6133
@adamg6133 2 күн бұрын
@@LandonReid-l9l Wait - I wasn't supposed to include those in the packages I shipped????
@bnkohrn
@bnkohrn 2 күн бұрын
Yeah, I was wondering where the sky went. I went outside, looked up, and it was just... gone...
@Aerostar509
@Aerostar509 2 күн бұрын
If you were to do the math of the cost having your own OBS / clear nights, then Starfront is a bargain.
@mostlymessingabout
@mostlymessingabout 2 күн бұрын
can't they all be aimed at the same target and get optical interferometry and upscale to a 20m equivalent mirror?
@聖帝サウザー-s7n
@聖帝サウザー-s7n 2 күн бұрын
これだけあって、日本製のビクセンのVSD90SSやタカハシの望遠鏡がないのが不思議です どれも中国製か台湾製、アメリカ製の望遠鏡🔭などばかりですね 性能よりコスパ重視なのでしょうか🤔
@mostlymessingabout
@mostlymessingabout 2 күн бұрын
is Vixen really made in Japan? or imported from China?
@聖帝サウザー-s7n
@聖帝サウザー-s7n 2 күн бұрын
@@mostlymessingabout コメント、ありがとうございます😊 日本では大注目されているVSD90SS、VSD70SSは、made in Japanです。他の同じクラスの望遠鏡🔭より、かなり値段が高いですが、その代わりに性能は素晴らしいです😉
@Spaceandthings1
@Spaceandthings1 2 күн бұрын
This looks awesome to me but it just doesn’t beat the og way of doing stuff. And I think a lot of people would like to keep something they put so much time and effort and of course money into getting in their possession. Even if we have worse conditions, we still have the joy of setting up our scopes, imaging, and creating a beautiful piece of art. I think you made the right choice Trevor :)
@brentnewton7055
@brentnewton7055 2 күн бұрын
No reason to think of it as an either / or choice
@regp5
@regp5 2 күн бұрын
Great thing about life is there's often more than one way to enjoy something. I personally never loved to chore of driving to dark sky and camping out just to get clean data. Remote observing has been a big help in allowing me to create images without having to sacrifice so much of my free time.
@Pawel-rv1ek
@Pawel-rv1ek 2 күн бұрын
@@regp5 Might as well download data from someone else, what's the point of spending so much money, sending the equipment there and shooting same objects as others?
@regp5
@regp5 2 күн бұрын
@@Pawel-rv1ek The point is it's my equipment that I chose, configured, fine tuned, and have full control over. The data I collect with the system is MY data. I don't shoot the same things as everyone else I actually make a point to go after lesser imaged objects many of which are only viable under extremely dark sky. I also still image from my backyard and occasionally go out to dark sites. I'll never understand why people think you have to choose one or the other. It's OK for people to enjoy their hobbies in a different way than others.
@Pawel-rv1ek
@Pawel-rv1ek 2 күн бұрын
@@regp5 I've never said you have to choose anything. Personally I would't feel any connection with the data if you know what I mean. A lot of people order the scopes and deliver them to telescope farms so they might never even see them. But do whatever makes you happy.
@shafimchowdhury237
@shafimchowdhury237 2 күн бұрын
Bro can i use gimbal instead of star tracker 😅
@FocusAG
@FocusAG 2 күн бұрын
Did you just said "Bunch of cheaters!" at the end? xD xD
@scoobywrx05dw
@scoobywrx05dw 2 күн бұрын
Trying out the Atlatl ?
@MikeLikesChannel
@MikeLikesChannel 2 күн бұрын
Honestly for $149/month if they let me rent a setup, I have no emotional attachment to the gear they choose. I want the data most. Long as the equipment lets me achieve that goal.
@dustinballinger5661
@dustinballinger5661 2 күн бұрын
There are other professions that let you rent the equipment too... some say the oldest profession. Your spouse will appreciate starfront a lot more
@Q_Bits
@Q_Bits 2 күн бұрын
A friend of mine has a rig at starfront. While I'm incredibly jealous by their constant stream of subs, I am more on your side of thought. I enjoy the physicality of it, being outdoors, seeing the skies for what they are. That and I can never decide which rig to use, picking one to send down would be impossible XD
@subodhshetty1
@subodhshetty1 17 сағат бұрын
On field sufferfest FTW 👊 Real deal for me is being out there under night sky than being a couch potato. Even if it involves 200kms of round trip in my case - I rather choose it over remote. The camaraderie and the conversations on field brings along is worth it all. Thanks for the video and glad you chose backyard over remote despite the visit :) Having said that - more power to Astrofalls - he’s quite an inspiration 🙏🏼
@weatherandsky
@weatherandsky 2 күн бұрын
8:18 "bunch of cheaters".... I was not expecting that 🤣🤣🤣. Seriously though I thought this was very interesting and tempting especially when I think about our upcoming winter of endless clouds. Plus, like you, my light pollution is not helping and it's actually getting worse.
@waynewheaton3210
@waynewheaton3210 2 күн бұрын
I hear you. I have bortel 7 skies. Mature trees, street lights. Oh, and three little kids.
@dustinballinger5661
@dustinballinger5661 2 күн бұрын
I've been at Starfront since Late June, it has taken my imaging beyond what I imagined cause I can actually get the exposure count I want and still have my normal life at home. Too busy or rough day of work, takes 15 mins to make sure all is good and then go to bed. Check on it in the morning, all good. When I have the time I process it and sit back and be amazed at what I have collected. Its worth it and the community of the starfront discord is almost as good as the skies.
@regp5
@regp5 2 күн бұрын
Don't let the haters and gatekeepers fool you remote imaging is highly rewarding and doesn't stop you from also going out under the night sky when you're able to.
@waynewheaton3210
@waynewheaton3210 11 сағат бұрын
@@dustinballinger5661 Thanks for the post. I have three little kids, and bortel 7 skies... I like the idea for the same reasons. I'm considering shipping out the big setup and keep the portable rig and dob at home.
@Jcorban08
@Jcorban08 10 сағат бұрын
I can relate to the light pollution getting worse. When I first moved to my place, the summer milky-way was clearly visible - but, sadly, not anymore 😢
@Greydoggy1658
@Greydoggy1658 2 күн бұрын
Great idea for those who can't use their gear as often as they'd would like. You still need the time to use it no matter where you are though, so this would be practical for a small fraction of astrophotographers. Personally, I enjoy the set-up portion almost as much as the capture and post processing. My backyard is where I want to be. My backyard is one of the reasons I bought my house 17 years ago.
@williamshipp4280
@williamshipp4280 Күн бұрын
So is it a monthly fee ie:$199 month or?
@NebulaStarsandGalaxies-g5e
@NebulaStarsandGalaxies-g5e Күн бұрын
3 or 4 levels of cost depending on how much floor space is needed for your particular rig. Cheapest is $149/mo. Typical is $199.
@PafMedic
@PafMedic 2 күн бұрын
Wow,Thats Incredible..He Says..I Still Think Its Cheating,lol..Great Video Trevor,Thank You..Clear Skies❤️🙏🏻🔭✨
@TyroTim2000
@TyroTim2000 Күн бұрын
WOW!
@Dennis-tf2cs
@Dennis-tf2cs 2 күн бұрын
What is their internet setup for handling all that data?
@dustinballinger5661
@dustinballinger5661 2 күн бұрын
They have fiber and business grade networking to the scope. besides the occasional outage from an upgrade or reconfigure its been better than my home internet
@stamatismetallin333
@stamatismetallin333 2 күн бұрын
Trevor my friend! Every video which you upload it is a happy lesson for me!❤
@metatechnologist
@metatechnologist 2 күн бұрын
I never knew this. What would a typical setup look like?
@adamg6133
@adamg6133 2 күн бұрын
Basically the same as what people are doing for astrophotography in their backyard or when they go to a dark sky site. EQ mount, telescope, camera, guide scope and guide cam, filter wheel if you're doing mono, and some kind of computer to control it all. There's a good population of people at the observatory who are even using ASIAIRs to control their remote gear, they just connect to it over a VPN instead of being on the same wifi network at home.
@metatechnologist
@metatechnologist 2 күн бұрын
@@adamg6133 thank you for responding. So do the people on the remote site aim your telescope for you?? How do they achieve that accuracy for you??
@dustinballinger5661
@dustinballinger5661 2 күн бұрын
@@metatechnologist once your scope is setup people usually just use a remote desktop solution (Chrome Remote Desktop, Teamviewer, etc) to login to your scope computer and then its just like its in the backyard. The staff at starfront do an amazing polar alignment so at the beginning of the night you home your mount, pick a target and do your normal collection routine. Have the images save to something like google drive and they will sync to your home computer and you process.
@metatechnologist
@metatechnologist 2 күн бұрын
@@dustinballinger5661 So you're controlling your own scope on a motorized mount then?? Thanks again really.
@adamg6133
@adamg6133 2 күн бұрын
@@metatechnologist They install your telescope on the pier and get it polar aligned for you. After that you connect to the computer that controls all your equipment and tell it where to point and how long of exposures to take and adjust focus and filters as needed.
@unlucky5442
@unlucky5442 2 күн бұрын
Why are people sending ASIair to a remote site? You can't use sequences, operate all sky cams, or flat panels. Imagine having to baby sit your rig all night at a remote site, I don't get it.
@karyleianawildernesscapes
@karyleianawildernesscapes 2 күн бұрын
Luckily, I live on a Bortle 1-3 island....𝘶𝘯𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘶𝘯𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘭𝘺, that same isle is known as the Wettest Spot in the World, so I feel all your pain about clouds ☁️🌫☁️🙄😂 But when it's clear...my god 🤯🥳!!
@davidrockefeller2007
@davidrockefeller2007 2 күн бұрын
if you live in a place like Scotland, this is probably the move.
@Astroduck44
@Astroduck44 2 күн бұрын
why am i just now realizing how similar bray and Trevor look
@GabeTStarman
@GabeTStarman 2 күн бұрын
I wonder what it would take to turn this into an interferometer.
@brentnewton7055
@brentnewton7055 2 күн бұрын
Unfortunately it wouldn't work. Interferomatry relies on being able to combine the light into a single point. Systems using interferometry will have complex systems of mirrors running between each telescope to ensure it all meets up at the same time onto one sensor
@GabeTStarman
@GabeTStarman 2 күн бұрын
@@brentnewton7055 Yeah I know, I was just sorta musing. It’s still possible, just highly impractical and expensive. If not for the mirrors it would take, but for the atomic clocks required since it would be visible light wavelengths levels of precision.
@brentnewton7055
@brentnewton7055 2 күн бұрын
​@GabeTStarman I should add that collective projects from there are already live and have helped confirm discovery of new objects. You may not get the resolution advantage of interferometry but it is nice to be able to capture hundreds of hours of imaging data within a few nights
@GabeTStarman
@GabeTStarman 2 күн бұрын
@@brentnewton7055 that’s really great!
@SteveHookEm
@SteveHookEm 2 күн бұрын
I hope they didn’t bad mouth me! lol j/k these guys are great.
@josephgagnon984
@josephgagnon984 2 күн бұрын
Trevor is just a little envious and doesn't want to rename his site Astro-Texas...
@UNLKYHNTR
@UNLKYHNTR 2 күн бұрын
Now sync all the same setups and take a picture of Andromeda or something. Easy 2000h exposure stack in like 2 nights lmao
@Thunder_Dome45
@Thunder_Dome45 2 күн бұрын
Why am I just hearing about this now? Of course I give it 5 years before a stadium pops up next door.
@dustinballinger5661
@dustinballinger5661 2 күн бұрын
It's in the middle of Texas, hundreds of miles from Dallas, Austin, San Antonio... for the east coasters its like several states away
@Thunder_Dome45
@Thunder_Dome45 2 күн бұрын
@@dustinballinger5661 I've been reading their website. I'm in Oklahoma. I don't know if I want to use it though.
@johnadastra1754
@johnadastra1754 2 күн бұрын
Can anyone do much imaging from Canada? You're so far north, can you even see the ecliptic? (joking)
@StanleyHudson-iv2xn
@StanleyHudson-iv2xn Күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I loved this one. This is a great premise and for those who’ve chosen that route, God love em. I, like you, feel the need for some degree of challenge to my endeavors. Something feels wrong if whatever I’m doing is too easy, however I might define that. Example, I love sailing. Not just as a weekend endeavor but actually living and traveling on the waters of the world, ya da, ya da, ya da. It’s very challenging sometimes but I love that about it. In addition to the sense of freedom, the smell of the ocean, the sunrises and sunsets, news faces also comes the challenges of keeping the boat moving and in one piece. Same with stargazing and astro imaging. The challenges of set up, equipment, weather, all make the final image that I’m happy with well worth the time and effort it took to create it. LOVE YOUR UNDER THE BREATH SNARKY COMMENTS AT THE END! Couldn’t stop chuckling.
@AshA-ww8hc
@AshA-ww8hc Күн бұрын
If you think going remote is "easy" you know nothing about it. In fact it is far more challenging to make other people setup your equipment and then reun it thousands of miles away while troubleshooting every issue without having access to it.
@NebulaStarsandGalaxies-g5e
@NebulaStarsandGalaxies-g5e Күн бұрын
"Bunch of Cheaters" = "I'm so jealous"
@AstroBackyard
@AstroBackyard Күн бұрын
💯
@dustinballinger5661
@dustinballinger5661 2 күн бұрын
All the haters of remote imaging please keep commenting, you are entertaining us cheaters as we image and have a virtual star party
@tyshantz8675
@tyshantz8675 2 күн бұрын
Bray Falls is my guess
@tomazvrabelj6671
@tomazvrabelj6671 2 күн бұрын
I would miss the frustration when you wait for a clear night and right then you have a thousand problems you need to solve as soon as possible so that you hopefully get the most out of the night. It would loose that magic.
@brentnewton7055
@brentnewton7055 2 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@LandonReid-l9l
@LandonReid-l9l 2 күн бұрын
Ahhh the magic of staying awake all night suffering. Nothing like it.\
@NatanielsArt
@NatanielsArt 15 сағат бұрын
Definitely cheating lol but I get it, cool spot! For me shooting wide view it’s all about the adventure and I’m lucky to have a dark skies couple of hours away 🤩
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