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why fifa feels different now
why fifa feels different now
why fifa feels different now

[@Vizeh]

I do understand that i've talked about FIFA alot in the past, I recently watched a nostalgia based video on Call Of Duty a few days ago and it got me in the mood to think about what made me love FIFA in the first place, this is more of a rambly kind of video which I typically don't want to do but felt like the only real way I share how I feel about the game. How I connected with it and realising that maybe i'm the problem and that's ok Tell me your thoughts below

[@MrBittles]

I loved this video, it really showed how games have 100% changed, but we as people have to

[@0liseh]

You married bro??? With a kidd??!!

[@jean-paul_not_jp]

Nah Viz i think its just the older you get the more you change, all games have there flaws and all games have great things about them. Your fifa videos have been mostly negative for the past few years and you have really fell out of love with the game and its normal. But for some gaming still is an escape whether it is fifa cod or other games etc from my own experience God of War 2018 which i only got to play in 2021 for the first time made me fall in love with SP games again so did Ghost of Tsushima. So i hope you find a game that makes you fall inlove with gaming again and love the new direction the channel is going in stay positive man and keep growing the channel sending love from South Africa🇿🇦

[@mcbarca]

Habibi come to efooball

[@arneovasapyan5987]

Make more of these rambling videos! I loved this!

[@ItIsMe656]

I used to be obsessed with fifa pulling all nighters just to play it but now I can’t even play it for an hour without getting bored and moving onto something else. Honestly it’s really sad for me to see the game I used to love turn into what it is now

[@Vizeh]

I remember doing an all nighter on FIFA 12 Head To Head Seasons playing with Celtic and Anderlecht and had the time of my life bro

[@ItIsMe656]

@@Vizeh on of my fondest memories of fifa 12 was my player career mode with chelsea as a RW and moving to barca

[@Irvinedhino]

@@ItIsMe656 one of mine was fifa 15 doing a scottish career mode as a rw and moving to real madrid and winning 3 back to back quadruples

[@hazen6283]

Plenty of kids stay up all night to play fifa now, you just grew up

[@sukhdevr3489]

Because the gameplay is awful. It doesn't even feel like football.

[@abhijai]

The old FIFAs had its own identity. FIFA 13 feels different from FIFA 14 and it feels different from FIFA 15, etc. But from FIFA 18, the game is going very identical.

[@elitepixels5427]

wow great way to put it man, defines the feeling i’ve been experiencing for years but was unable to describe

[@oldarthurmorgan6319]

They all the exact same carbon copy shit y'all just grew up

[@megaplexXxHD]

Thats cause 99% of the player base just kept buying packs and hyping this shit up :/ i miss the fifa where you could even change crown chants and add goal songs from your own ps3‘s music library

[@Messi-Only]

@@oldarthurmorgan6319 nah it’s not, 1 million coins use to be a dream for me in div 1, now you’re not goin past d3 without it

[@exroa]

@@oldarthurmorgan6319fkn hell who pissed in ur cereal moody git

[@HBS98]

Fifa 15 was the turning point for me personally. Every game after that hasn't had the same magic to it :(

[@Vizeh]

I agree but I think FIFA KZbin also plays a big factor too

[@stealthiscool]

That was the last FIFA I played day in day out, the series really went downhill after the PS3/Xbox 360 generation, I think that applies to gaming as a whole really.

[@owenmacdonald7428]

I had a great time with FIFA 16, even though it was much worse than 15 IMO - for me, that was the last FIFA that my friends and I all played together, in Year 13. From 17 onwards you lose the immediate connection with the group you formed all the best memories of the game with, and it naturally discolours your experience of the game. Throw in the gameplay being much less enjoyable, the obvious shift in focus to e-sports/competition/exclusive rewards etc, the obsession of numbers for EA, and you can see the rest happen in real time. I tried FUT Champs once this year and I was sick of it after a few games. I could play 15 for entire evenings and not even realise it was the next day...

[@edgariva12]

@@owenmacdonald7428 interesting take. 15>16 nostalgia wise especially during their life cycles. But I feel like 16s gameplay held up to today as 15 feels choppy. 17 was def the downhill. It was okay but you know by then it wasn’t the same. 21 and now what a pain in the ass. Every average player is 80+ and now there’s mad special cards and base cards don’t even hold up anymore

[@TommyReckx]

Omg same, I even played that fifa 15 mobile app AHHH so much MEMORIESSSS

[@Trizzlzz]

Nostalgia plays a huge part obviously but even then I’ve felt a change in the game since FIFA 16.

[@Vizeh]

The content is a MASSIVE part of it

[@TommyReckx]

The journey was very fun in 17, I loved that little game series

[@darrenallen8885]

16 was best

[@dazza60]

FIFA 13 - FIFA 15 was the golden era. FIFA 16 was good and FIFA 17 was semi-decent, but 17 was the start of the downfall.

[@omaribrahim1094]

@@dazza60 frr

[@louisc2734]

FIFA took the trend of many games… over complicating the games. As you said there’s too much going on and the new chemistry restricts the players so much.

[@Vizeh]

The Battle Pass, Objective, Limited Time only stuff is what's done it most

[@HonestMan112]

The chemistry restriction is done for a reason. It makes it harder for u to build a squad so u spend more free time thinking about ur team, therefore the game is on ur mind more and ur first instinct when u get home or whatever is to hop on the game

[@FIFA07Pro]

Ultimate Team in FIFA shouldn't exist at all. I blame Ultimate Team for ruining FIFA.

[@Ruscococo1]

​@@FIFA07Pro it should exist but without scripting and pay to win.

[@triplej8666]

@@Vizeh Theres no battle pass in fifa, objectives are free and limited time promos like Team of the Seasons and Team of the year have been around for 13+ years

[@careerpro419]

Bring me back to the fifa 17 days when I would play kick off and seasons for fun and felt emotionally attached to the game

[@Vizeh]

You can try to do it, but maybe it's just your own perspective that changes it, when you know you are trying to feel a certain way it will never be that

[@harshpatel9606]

seasons feel so dry. you play the same teams / opponents over and over

[@branaldinho]

It’s sad the way the game has gone. I remember fifa 15 my mother gave me £20 for my birthday and I bought fifa points with it and managed to get myself an inform neymar. It quite literally meant the world to me at the time. I still think of that pack to this day. The difference is these days is I put £200 at the start of fifa 22 and my best player was 84 rated. I haven’t played FIFA since.

[@Vizeh]

You are one LUCKY man with that Neymar pull bro

[@dannu7982]

Inform neymar is crazy

[@AJayZy]

IF Neymar has a low drop rate even back then, trust me mate I spent so much time on FIFA 15.

[@Acityyyy]

I think a lot of it is nostalgia. As you grow older, you're more likely to look back fondly on fifa rather than the present. When you're younger, it's all laughing and having fun. As you get older it becomes playing champs every week and getting frustrated easily. So yeah, I think it's just the fact we're getting older.

[@owenmacdonald7428]

Beautiful video, Vizeh. FIFA is connected to so many of our childhoods (FIFA 13 was the first year I started playing FUT, largely because I saw KSI playing it) and up until FIFA 16 it was a game my friends and I played religiously. I still played 17, 18, 19 loads but it was different, less enjoyable, more engineered towards marketing ploys and endless content like you described. Obviously life gets busier when you leave school and you don't have the time to play it as much, but I think FIFA 20 was the turning point for me - I played FIFA 20 loads during lockdown and started hating it, because as you've said it felt like a job - endlessly grinding for marginally better players on SBCs, wasting your weekends on FUT Champions, draining your life into a game that isn't even fun to play. Obviously part of it is coloured by growing up, and the fact the world is a worse place than where it was a decade ago. EA have also tried desperately to make as much money as they can from the game (as they would do - they are a business) and so the introduction of time-exclusive content, "season"-based rewards etc are a given. I think the problems with FIFA can be found in many parts of society - everything is run to make money, to be the biggest thing ever, to rake in the profits, and the end product is soulless, miserable experiences for most people compared to what we had before. Like you said, will anyone look back at FIFA 23 in a few years time and cherish it? Does anyone seriously miss 22 or 21? I can tell you the exact line-up I had with my PL team on FIFA 15, and probably even the bench too, and they were just normal gold cards. We've been drowning in special cards for years now, many of which being players that would never have earnt it in real-life, and once the game ends I couldn't tell you who they were. I certainly couldn't tell you what the cards were for. The game was fun, and now it's a slog, which describes quite a lot of life in the modern age - the average person wants change, but a multi-billion company has a financial target to meet, so the game is made a certain way and that's that - just like with other game franchises, and if you look beyond video games you'll see it everywhere. Wider change is needed - but for now, we can reminisce with you about what was once a great game - this has certainly bee a great video. Keep up the good work :)

[@Vizeh]

Amazing comment man, it does feel engineered towards marketing ploys completely, I feel that less is more very much and wished we could feel some acclompishment when creating our ultimate teams again. You're a legend Owen

[@thrasherdave1428]

Owen, I liked your comment but let me tell you I wish I could've liked it a thousand times. Everything you said is so true it's scary

[@stevenalmeida5716]

I know how you feel the samething happened to me

[@VaselineSandwichConnoisseur]

Yeah man

[@axel3689]

Only kids who don't know the feeling of seeing fifa 15's golden menu and UT where you werent bombarded by cheap artifical dopamine every time. I mean, its not even nostalgia man, its just objectively the world is a worse place. Natural emotions > artifical force-fed emotions

[@edgariva12]

I remember it being hard to get players contracts and injury items as it wasn’t common now. It was crazy how you can put a decent team together and be able to keep up. Now you need special players, all out pace team, and you’re over saturated with players and items. I barely have close matches anymore it’s either you blow someone out, get blown out or a hard win

[@Vizeh]

Contracts and Fitness cards man, that was overlooked for new players! I completely forgot about that!

[@jasperthompson9759]

4:57. This. This hit so hard. I used to love single player games like Uncharted, GTA etc. But these days (I'm 23) they just doesn't feel the same anymore.

[@Zeyad54yearsago]

Well, growing up doesn't usually affect your attachment to single player games.

[@harrylhc4275]

@@Zeyad54yearsagosource: trust me bro

[@JAKE-ng8yr]

@@Zeyad54yearsago its because new games are such a fucking shit

[@SuperYtc1]

Because they are all packed with macroscamsactions, lootboxes, and algorithms all designed to steal as much money as possible.

[@CJNG_1]

​@@harrylhc4275 it doesn't but back then we had lot of rockstar games like gta vc, sa gta 4 and gta 5 with 5 years difference but look at now it's been 10 years still waiting for gta 6

[@elliotgibson8451]

It’s difficult to judge things when nostalgia’s involved, and it’s important to remember that one day you might look back on where you are now with the same fondness you look back on the past with

[@Aidan2128]

I used to be obsessed with fifa too and would play it non stop, but as I’ve gotten older I can’t play for more than an hour. I think a big reason for that is I’m now an adult. I have a job responsibilities and relationships. Once you have all of those things occupying all your time it’s hard to get time to play and when you do have time to play you don’t even want to. I can’t play video games anymore I want to but I just can’t because my attention span won’t let me

[@hypeclaneu]

My fifa nostalgia comes from FIFA 15-18. The magic seems to have been fully drained

[@dylanmulroe9978]

I feel sorry for you g

[@ethanrichards1472]

That part about FIFA being a job… it pretty much was. I felt like my life revolved around it. Whenever I wasn’t worried about FIFA though… I felt sort of free but there was always this itch, this addiction. I have to keep going. I have to get that new TOTS. I have to get that Gullit or R9. I didn’t play out of enjoyment; I did out of what I thought was necessity.

[@thrasherdave1428]

A job that you pay to do

[@Vizeh]

It’s that fear of missing out that they get you, limited time events ALL the time

[@Listentoputin363]

@@thrasherdave1428 LMAOO

[@sahilsharma6053]

I remember Fernando Torres quickly becoming my fav footballer(even irl) after I used him in FIFA 13. Nowadays you don't even get to feel the importance of a card

[@dylan5349]

I have the same feeling your describing about video games but now also about life. Last year was strange, I experienced the highest of the highs and the lowest of the lows, now I feel nothing, just emptiness which often turns to depression.

[@ericvignone]

Welcome to life bud there is no hope

[@Vizeh]

I wish you well man, always look after yourself

[@dylan5349]

@Vizeh thanks bro, just got to push forward 💪

[@ovipetreus7778]

The reality is, we have grown up. Life is always more nostalgic thinking back to when you were younger and had less stress on your hands. I wonder if kids who start playing FIFA now will look back at FIFA 23 in 8-9 years time and think FIFA 23 is nostalgic?

[@MR12AMAZING]

They will, this goes in cycles.It's the same with anything really, music, sports, movies, tv, etc.

[@jedan_nula396]

​@@MR12AMAZING I doubt it will have that same amount of nostalgia as we had. Probably fortnite will but FIFA will just be a distant memory of something you did but probably not overly enjoyed.

[@sanku1999]

Thing is, fifa UT has too much grind now and spending doesn't matter because you can't spend money to buy players, you are buying lottery tickets. It's stressful and it's 2nd job if you want to be at the top.

[@suwfe29]

My experience is very similar to urs man. Fifa will always hold a special place in my heart, it’s a huge part of my childhood. This is yet another lesson to enjoy todays gifts because u don’t know if they’re gonna be there tomorrow

[@DaniMiste]

I completely agree with you with the way they're releasing new promos weekly, it kills the game so fast and year after year it doesn't feel that special to pack good players because everybody has god teams nowadays, u don't see random op gold or even silver/bronze cards anymore, nowadays you will pack a Messi or Ronaldo and u wouldn't feel anything, maybe just a little joy that u packed Messi/Ronaldo, but back in the good days u will pack a random totw, a random tots and u will go insane, it doesn't feel special anymore, u can play for a week and you will have an insane squad already, but they cannot go back to how it was because if they do that 90% of the community will go nuts if they don't see a new promo every week, if they do not see a new random Gullit gang midfielder, players like Nainggolan would feel so special, now you get Gullit gang cards in december, it's crazy bro, bring me back to fifa 13/14 when you would beat a full icon god squad with full silver squads

[@Mwepu8]

Great point about all the promos, i think that the huge increase in content is actually tied to the increase in pressure from creators on Twitch or KZbin for consistency. Back in what most would describe as the golden era of FIFA, creators would not be doing any sort of scheduled uploads unless doing a series or something, because they didn't need daily or weekly uploads to bang views. However, now with the algorithm the way it is, consistency is necessary to keeping a channel alive on KZbin and certainly creators like Danny Aarons and Pieface need new content almost daily to keep uploads fresh and interesting, so there is an immense pressure on EA from creators who hold huge sway in their business to add more and more to the game. Which of course is part of the games undoing.

[@skoczek777]

In May I'll be 20. FIFA was almost my entire childhood, it was the way to escape my miserable day-to-day life and have some fun. I am modding the 14 on PC for 5 years, and I bought 23 on January mashing on FUT. After 4 months, I have the squad polished to the point that it makes little to no sense to upgrade on my skill level. But thanks to you - I stopped and thought: man, who cares, it was never about being good. I used to play a lot, mostly in Career Mode and making wacky tournaments, playing kick-offs etc. I absolutely loved it, but now going to university, when you need to know everything and generally have less time - it feels like a second job. Thank you for being my light in a tunnel. I think I may change that.

[@DoubleK98]

FIFA 14 was not only my favourite FIFA to play but also to watch.... I feel like so many KZbinrs were making great content; Road to Division 1, Pinkslips/ wagers, Pro Clubs, Career Mode and of course insane pack openings... I used to spend at least a couple of hours a day watching KZbinrs playing FIFA and GTA V

[@philippschmid650]

That was literally the best time...😊

[@axel3689]

World was just a better place to be, not even nostalgia atp

[@jjohara1949]

You hit on a very good point which is beyond memories and actually about the focus of the game. I've played FIFA since FIFA 94. There were years when I played it less because of life. I play now on my own on evenings to chill out and it's pretty much the only game I play. I have a teenage son and he plays, but like most he plays other games with mates and of course has studying to do. I feel as a member of what was once FIFA's core target audience, there is too much pressure and focus for teenagers to play FIFA on their own chasing objectives rather than play with mates and focus on other things outside of gaming. For me, the golden times of FIFA was late teens to early twenties, a group of mates all together just blasting away evenings 2 v 2 in between Goldeneye marathons.

[@OcEleven]

I remember my whole childhood just being FIFA videos. FIFA 14 and 15 especially were a blast to play. I started to notice a shift from FIFA 16 though. The game just felt the same. FIFA 17 was a breath of fresh air due to the new engine but, still the same game. And FIFA 18-22, better not spoken about. Even now, I still yearn for the days when I used to play FIFA 14 nonstop.

[@DanoFSmith-yc9tg]

I’m 35, so I’ve got 10 years or so on you Viz, back when FUT and all the other online stuff was introduced, I saw all the micro transactions, drip feeds, and by appointment only acquisitions coming from a mile away, maybe because I was already that 10 years older, who knows, but I stayed away, and still mostly love FIFA still to this day, maybe because I basically only play career mode, and wasn’t conditioned to EA’s excessive bullshit? I actually think FIFA 2022 or 19 is the best. The only thing that really ticks me off with career mode is that we don’t get all the boots, like why can’t I have every single licensed boot to the game? Even the ones I unlocked from previous games, like why can’t we bring our boots we unlocked from say 18, and bring them to the current game? My FIFA account has been the same all those years, why can’t it save what Ive already unlocked from previous games? And why do some random players have exclusive boots that no other player has or can get? Nothing makes me more crazy then getting matched up against some non top 5 league team in one of the European cups, and some 62 overall has some super cool unique boots. Like wtf ea? Why? I’d rather you just piss in my coffee if you want to make a fool of me.

[@marentes133]

You hit the nail right on the bro, the reason I still play this game is because I love football so much. I can’t stop watching it. It holds a special place in my heart.

[@Vizeh]

Thank you man!

[@MrBittles]

I felt this video, it's just perfect, hits every spot, I love it.

[@Vizeh]

I'm happy to give you that lad

[@stinky34.5]

Im 21 from the Netherlands and I bought fifa 23 with 2 of my friends and we only logged on 2-3 times a week when we were hanging out and its so much more fun playing fut coop. I stopped playing at fifa 17 but playing together and grinding a full dutch team has made it so much more enjoyable again

[@miguel_v07]

2014-2018 were the prime days for me,Fifa and Pes were both in there prime.I spent days and hours playing each and both of them,the good old days😢

[@yurgrandmama]

Bro search and discard literally brought back memories holy

[@tombenbow100]

The constant card inflation is the biggest problem imo. If you have to take a month or two away from the game due to life circumstances it’s very difficult to jump back into the game as your team isn’t competitive anymore

[@benhayes5396]

But in the same manner, a decent pack pull is amazing. If a team from 2 months ago was still meta now, then imagine how boring it is for those who played for those 2 months and couldn’t progress their team. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. And sadly we have all grown up and can’t play as much as we used to. So we are now just not able to enjoy the game as much as we did. And in the same light, the current kids growing up into the new FIFA’s (fifa 19 onwards) are going to look back to this fifa as their golden age where they played week in week out and constantly upgrade their teams and enjoyed each promo

[@Tafeafc]

To be fair though if you're good at the game then you can still beat most people with a team that costs like 100k. You don't need all the newest/best cards.

[@aliramadan9256]

Back when I was 11 or 12, I had Fifa 12 and Fifa 13, and what I did the most was creating tournaments with random teams or more specific settings, like 3 stars teams only, and made them compete to see who would win an improbable tournament. I played career mode, too, but not as much and barely had FUT 'cause I was on Xbox 360 and didn't have Gold. Overall, good memories

[@dizy91]

ive been playing fifa since fifa 2005. i used to be ranked 300 in the world in fifa 09 and i kept playing until fifa 2015. After that point i took a break until fifa 23 and honestly ive been enjoying playing fifa its been a fun year to me. Fut is fun and pro clubs is fun too. i think a lot of you guys shouldve taken a break like i did and maybe your fifa experience wouldve been different.

[@jedan_nula396]

True but I think most try to keep that streak of founding club that Is just a number but is proof of you being a FIFA OG gamer

[@brenonoah1]

bro, “we come running” hits so hard…

[@dylanbirks105]

I feel exactly like this. I did grind a lot in fifa 19-22 but there'd be times where I'd not play for months. Would of never done that back in fifa 14-16. Well and truly the best times. Nowadays you can't use random sweaty players or silvers and have fun you have to use the meta teams otherwise it's not a competition. No fun in it anymore

[@rhysburns5420]

I haven't touched ultimate team in years I always just play career mode so I can always find a way to enjoy myself

[@Carlt0nBankz]

This video is 100% true. This is why I switched over to Efootball. You can complete the weekly objectives in your own time and the league mode over a 5/6 week period and grind when you want to. They have a reasonable amount of content and you can not hop on for a periods of time and not feel behind the curve. They give out decent rewards and TOTW gives you useable players. How can I be happy with getting JWP, could never happen in Fifa as you need to play to the meta. There will always be some pay to win players in every game but at least I can obtain the best players in the game. You can even earn points to attempt to pack legends. It’s a no brainier. They’re just missing a Champs mode over a weekend

[@Vizeh]

That's why i'm looking forward to UFL to see if that new-ness that feeling of being part of a new experience could drive me forward to playing games again

[@Carlt0nBankz]

@@Vizeh loved the new style content. Keep up the amazing work. When I see the notification and the title I know we have a banger on the way

[@thrasherdave1428]

If they do add a champs mode it better be like it was in FIFA 17. Available if you want more of a challenge but not a mode you must play otherwise you fall behind the curve

[@J6fundsssss]

Efootball is dry asf anyways tbh

[@EPS_238]

I didn’t grow up with all the older fifa’s because I just started getting into football during the 2022 World Cup, (This is my first year of middle school). I started off playing fifa 22 and would just make a custom tournament trying to recreate the World Cup. I also made a career mode with my home club, it was so much fun now that I look back at it. 2 days ago in fifa 23, I packed team of the year icon Gullit. I was stoked and was screaming “NO WAY”, “OMG”. After that I got ones to watch Lewandowski. I even bought a team of the season moments Ito. I was so excited to try them out in a game of fit champs. It’s like you said though, even if you pack a Messi, it’s not even that good. I ended up rage quitting as I was getting beat 2-0 in 10 minutes. I miss the times when I didn’t have fifa 23 and played fifa 22 for the fun of it, not to compete with others.

[@MooseGK]

there is a sequel we need to this, It feels so heavy on ultimate team. We need a deep dive into competitive clubs, the leagues, the players and the alternative to UT. Please, its still so unknown to so many people and to see it come to light a bit would make me so happy, as a competitive clubs player myself

[@cocododofl4946]

Its crazy I got 98 Pele in a icon pick like a couple weeks ago and all I could think about is when I packed him back in FIFA 15 lost my mind and how I barely reacted now.

[@yeeyee647]

the last fifa I played before I took a break was fifa 18. I've come back to it and the nostalgia was overwhelming as I haven't played a fifa game in so long. But I do wonder how long this will go on for before I take another 5 year break

[@dre6289]

I'm glad you mentioned the part about getting older. Because I think that's what it is, why the shine has come off. Yeah there are some issues with fifa but I think younger me would have been thrilled with the fifa we have now. But I think in moderation, in its proper place, fifa can give you that joy again. And I hope it sticks around because I think introducing it to our kids will give it new life to us. Wow you gave Miccoli a shout out. You are a real one lol

[@Ivanolasala]

In my opinion FM took over because it is about your progression on your own tempo testing you to the edge and this is so great about it

[@Ivanolasala]

Because of the way Fifa is build now, I think the FM just gives so much more excitement because it gives you genuine moments to be excited and relieved, it is way more straight to the point than fifa. Also how you experience real disappointed or sadness with what happens. It gives much more value as fifa does atm

[@sebjamali9734]

I agree. I feel a connection w/ the players and winning anything feels meaningful considering the amount of tinkering required to get tactic learned

[@Ivanolasala]

@@sebjamali9734 yeah man, the way fifa last frw years was, is just you buy wonderkid and he 1000% performance and grows into the top. In FM your top wonderkids can suck and your unexpected players can give you so much jot and fun. It’s just much better and interesting than fifa offers

[@Vizeh]

I love FM for that reason bro!

[@AaronsGameReviews]

This video is spot on, don’t usually watch your content but this is a great video. The inclusion of Lukas’s search and discard is so nostalgic. He was a great KZbinr and that series was class, I remember sitting down with KZbin on and eating my dinner watching those sort of fifa videos. The good old days…

[@KremBotop]

I never bothered with the online bits of FIFA or PES because I was basically only able to play them on a relative's home every once in a while and the competitive stuff just wasn't appealing imo. Though I haven't played any of these games since the 2020 editions, I recall the core gameplay to still be somewhat consistently decent/good. But one thing that either series will always have in high regard is their soundtracks. Most of them have absolute bangers, and PES 2012's in particular is my favorite overall.

[@kazsgamingmoments4786]

I’ve played since 17 and peak for me was 21 I played it way too much and finally cracked. I definitely feel the main reason it’s not the same is that people have grown up. Kids now are going through the same feeling we went through in the past and if we had this game when we were younger we’d get the same nostalgic feeling. I do agree the content is a lot more and it’s overwhelming so I play like 1-2 hours a normal week just to maintain a full USA team and silver stars just to play for fun because it’s impossible to stay with the meta of the game

[@KaitoSchmidtOfficiial]

just realised that i played fifa for 4 decades. My first one was Fifa 97 and the last one was fifa 22

[@Nohandlezzzzz]

Jesus

[@vynncenttryllian9959]

is "decade" slang for something other than a 10-year period because I'm confused

[@sosteam2797]

getting sacked after winning the treble with Chelsea but not signing enough youth players is when I switched from fifa to football manager

[@alfielynch5147]

When you packed a mad card in the past you’d go crazy how it’s just the norm

[@benhayes5396]

But the biggest complaints back then were that you couldn’t get those cards. We remember the good, forget the bad, that’s nostalgia. EA listened, made it possible to have the best cards in the game, made it possible to be rewarded for playing (remember the 10K for div 1). I think our issue is that, because we can’t play week in week out, we no longer want this content, back in the day we could play week in week out so wanted more content. It’s just growing up, these years will be the golden years for the current school kids, for us the golden years are past. It’s sad but we all now have jobs, Uni etc and fifa is no longer targeted towards us.

[@lilogold7963]

​@@benhayes5396i think the majority thinks its better how it was before. Now it means nothing. I dont even bother playing fut because i barely understand it no more. Its almost completely destroyed imo

[@StopMotionPark]

man i remember the days of fifa 14-17 felt like the time of my life and i was obsessed with the game. Nowadays im with you, i just cant play it and its sad. It feels so washed out and repetitive. Nothing has changed in the last 5+ fifas I mainly play FM now but those memories were something different. This video is the perfect summary of how I feel abt it.

[@thehazerecords]

26 year old here, start of my journey was FIFA ‘08 on my PSP. Took a hiatus in my early 20’s but as a stock trader for 3 years now, i realize that it was one of the best mental/tactical practice pastimes i could’ve ever had in my childhood (in moderation of course). Bought a Switch strictly for FIFA and go on career mode rampages with small teams when i need to relax from a heavy market trading day.

[@stainy1074]

I was always the youngest out of my brother and our neighbour (friends). I remember my brother always asking me to go to their house and asking if they wanna come play fifa 16. It just brings so much nostalgia and the thing that would make it fun were the forfeits we would do if u lose. Nowadays I find myself losing interest with fifa and my brother and my neighbours are all grown up in university as I’m going through high school.

[@jiahanchua8490]

I think one very valid point was how u could use a gold team and dominate. Cheap beasts were actually good. Nowadays u gotta have the right body types right this n that which made the special cards n higher tier cards significantly better. For example, my Chiesa with a hunter has perfect 99 pace but he feels no whr as fast as al owairan because of body type and a load of hidden stats. Its just annoying n i miss the days of ibarbo or gervinho doumbia or insanely good silver cards where stats actually reflected how a card would play. Not to mention how ea manipulate stats and change them without mentioning

[@KhoufOfficial]

me and my brother played every fifa from fifa 12 to fifa 21 like it was our job. since the pandemic we’ve moved on with our lives and gone to work and university but i still hold those memories close to me and it makes me smile to think of them.

[@rhys9887]

You’re so right mate. The weekend league doesn’t give you the same buzz when it comes to the rewards. I just thought is this colour card good or bad. Realised it felt like hard work just once and have just played career mode or pro clubs when my friends are on.

[@Vizeh]

That great that you are still enjoying pro clubs, that's the best part of the game!

[@FraserAllan08]

I feel the same way as you do and I'm only 15. However, during lockdown and such all we had was a PS3 and my iPhone 4s which didn't even support snapchat or KZbin, so I spent large amounts of time playing fifa 11 and 16 career mode, little big planet and Minecraft, all by myself, as I couldn't play with my friends, who had newer consoles. I now have all these games on the PS4, but none feel the same. LBP 3 just doesn't hit the same way, fifa is a chore like you say, and Minecraft I'll play for about a week with people like once every 3 months then the server will die and I wont play it. So it's not just you getting older everyone feels that way, and it hurts

[@benjamindemeyer4511]

I understand what your saying, I’m 19 now and still plays fifa and I still like it, but every year my love drops off, cause they just want you to spend as much time and money in the game as possible, also with these limited time events it just feels to pushed, I just miss the simplicity of the fifas when I was young, coming home from school and playing some career mode of FUT, those were the times. I started with fifa 15 and the last fifa I really enoyed, was like fifa 18, 19. But I think this goes for different things when you become older

[@Vizeh]

I agree completely man

[@urnother1989]

Same I’m 19 and I’ve been playing FIFA since fifa 11 I started FUT in 2013 it was amazing using cards like Loic Remy and other lesser knowns like they were stars. It has just become too much now I have college classes and a social life and overall fifa is just too over complicated now everyone has 99 overalls squads by April. It’s sad to say but I think this year is the last fifa I will buy. It’s been a hell of a decade and I will thank EA for making my childhood so great. So long old friend.

[@harleymilner3189]

I feel you dude I'm 19 and really got into fifa in fifa 13. Fifa 20 was the last time I felt any sort of connection to the game, I have great memories of my fut birthday ozil. 21, 22 and 23 feel hollow. I literally used to dream of having a mega team in old fifas and in 21 I got tots Ronaldo and still barely played the game, I got bored. That never would've been me in say fifa 15 because the game was just so fun

[@urnother1989]

@@harleymilner3189 Fr bro sad that we are growing up. Just glad FIFA could provide me all those memories. Crazy we both prolly had extremely similar experiences regarding childhood. Now we are entering this new chapter in life without fifa. Hope u do good in life and I’m sure we’ll never forget fifa.

[@j3nko037]

​@Urnother I'm 19 aswell and I completely agree fifa just feels over bearing and boring at the same if you know what I mean. The last fifa I actually enjoyed was fifa 20. 21,22 and 23 just feel the same as I've now got more of a social life and playing less and less and I'm going to see EA sports fc is like and if I don't have a connection with it think it will be my last fifa/Ea football game I will play

[@BWSBwoi]

I assume that for many of us FIFA was part of our childhood/teenage years. I started off with FIFA 07 around 2009, then I got my hands on FIFA 12,12,13.... The most fun I had however was in FIFA 14, which for me remains the best of all time. I played the crap out of that game, even modded it with more recent seasons etc. I had my best career mode back in quarantine time using a modded 16/17 season game and taking Notts County all the way to Champions League glory. What's funny is that I just randomly decided to do a career mode like that with no expectations and it turned out to be the most fun I ever had; I finished the whole 15 seasons... I was never an online player(rarely played with close friends)but I enjoyed watching youtubers like KSI, FIFAPlaya... Last year I tried Ultimate Team for the first time and it was a mix feeling. There were some cool moments(like quick promotions, getting cool cards)but over all the grind wasn't worth it. Nobody was playing it for fun(well, that's subjective I guess)and they all ran the same META teams which isn't fun if you ask me. Overall I think FIFA got worse after the new engine got introduced. It also changed its whole interface and got too obessed with popularity and cringe ads if you ask me.. I miss the older FIFAs because everything was simpler, much better menus, better music(if you ask me), some world class players that we grew up with were still playing... For me, career mode was everything in this game and I just didn't get that feeling with FIFA 22. They ignored this aspect of the game so much imo and only focused on the pay to win aspect. If they would listen to the many suggestions people gave on the internet and implemented them into career mode I feel like it would be better for the direction of the game. And most of these aren't even hard to implement. I don't play much FIFA these days, but if I ever feel like it, I'm definitely jumping on the older titles.

[@makkrohero59]

Nostalgia is one helluva drug

[@Vizeh]

I hate it and love it at the same time

[@ownmotm]

Hearing "Escapee"from FIFA 12 on the beginning of the video, melted my heart away

[@sean21209]

Not even finished the video, but I can feel this is another banger. Well done.

[@Vizeh]

Legend

[@jonathanjaffe7043]

I remember packing orange MoM Ezequiel Lavezzi 87 rated overall in fifa 12( best player I’ve packed, I’m 27) but Tbf he did sell for like 900k, back then that was a lot more than now. Honestly I believe fifa have token the fun out of the game. Like in fifa 12, the finesse shots were op, you could literally score a goal over 30 yards, also, pro clubs was one of the most under rated game modes ever. Kids nowadays don’t know how fun it was joining a random lobby asking too join a club. I tend too agree it’s either because we’re growing up, or fifa on purpose has killed the game for money/profits.

[@Muffinpurplegurk]

Fifa 13 was the last truly great Fifa imo. I've been playing since 98 and was known as the mosher/scene kid who loves football back in high school.

[@bz2886]

In fifa 17, the skill gap closed when they went all in on FUT and made scoring so much easier. I remember playing early access for fifa 17 and being annoyed how easy it was to score and how high scoring every game was. Didn't realise until now just how much that was the beginning of the end. Age plays a part in the way feelings change but a truly good game can still pull you in, there just aren't many of them anymore which just makes the void all the more obvious.

[@rhydiandavies4330]

I think 17 was a good game but the changes they made in that game made fifa worse for what it is today

[@theportugueselegend]

I understand you completely man! I started buying FIFA back in 2005 so I was here for all the ride. Normally I buy Fifa purely for the career mode and pro clubs, but... the game doesn't get you to stay after that you know? They only push the FUT experience and even that is becoming subpar. And I agree. The content creators are becoming more and more toxic and boring, with the same challenges over and over again.

[@danielp0527]

Quality video Vizeh 👌. This one actually hit hard for me because maybe it is the sad reality that we are growing up and aren’t attracted to the games like we used to, as it’s the first time since being a kid where I haven’t loaded up my PS in a couple months to play 💔.

[@sweatyhaggis4303]

Maybe I'm just blinded by nostalgia, but I love the design of the OG ultimate team cards, nice and square. Not weird hersheys kisses shaped things

[@aidenp3219]

As a lad your age, I can fully relate to the nostalgia element. I remember my first IF on Fifa 11 being Scott Parker and I felt like a god putting him into my midfield alongside Van Der Vaart and Modric. Or my Serie A team with Di Natalie, Ibrah and Pato, simpler times. In a dream world, Fifa/ EAFC will release a 'Vanilla' version alongside the new FUT where you can have a barebones base gold squad with no/minimal promos alongside normal FUT to give us that choice to actually play and enjoy playing on a level playing field. Unfortunately, it'll never happen

[@thegangster4481]

Just getting older and moving on from playing FIFA with no responsibilities or problems is what the main thing is. Being a kid you got to love the game with all your free time. Admittedly I do think the game is genuinely objectively worse these days with how EA make their money. But nothing can really quite take you back

[@SonuAssasin]

those nostalgic sound track❤❤❤ ,tbh after fifa17 game died for me , and all those guys messi ronaldo ,rooney gerrard ,lampard ,drogba ,bale ,hazard, terry , maldini ,shevchenko are all gone 😢😢

[@Jester-611]

fifa 14 😍😍😍😍😍

[@Vizeh]

So beautiful

[@Mr-fe5ng]

​@@Vizeh 2009, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 then it went to crap.

[@ThomasDonnelly1888]

It just feels like EA doesn't care any more, Celtic park and Ibrox havent been in the game since like 16, and you look at the leagues missing, it might not seem like a lot, but looking back at that old footage, the amount of players from teams from Brazil is crazy, and now those teams only exist in some random game mode.

[@Mateus_Carvalho]

I played FIFA 98 as a little kid. I remember it being pretty fun to just take my PS1 from home to my grandpa's place because he had the one TV that just accepted AV cables without the hassle and *man*, it was great to just play with almighty Madureira, the Malaysian teams, the made-up US teams... and the loads of national teams. I kept up with the series on the PS2 to the point of getting FIFA 14. As most Brazilians, I only really experienced the game in its proper, non-pirate form by the time Steam and Origin became things... so I got a cheap FIFA 14. And then I saw what it had turned into. You could unlock things in a store (which the PS2 games had) but they were level-restricted. Fair enough, I'd play friendlies and career mode but that barely rose my level. I never quite noticed that the idea was that they wanted me to play Ultimate Team so I could rise my level faster. Years later, I got FIFA 22 on the cheap. I had since gravitated to PES who just gave me a more fun time. They also had the Brazilian League. And the second division for it as well, perish the thought of EA ever doing that for a non-Euro league. Had a horrible time downloading that beast, turned the game on and I was greeted by loads of screens about FUT. They were now proud to have women football. Only three or four leagues though but hey, that's neat I suppose. My home league had maybe 16 teams? Including one that literally didn't exist. And then more gambling ads after a friendly that barely loaded its graphics. It feels like the series went through a rough patch while I wasn't looking and it turned to gambling so as to afford an executive's golden boat. Maybe I'll pay the series a visit in 2030? As is, I'll just go back to PES 2021. My almighty Madureira isn't there either but I can edit them in out of the package. Say, remember that Creation Centre thing? I wonder where it went.

[@syeducchash2301]

We feel you bro, me playing fifa in psp and ps2 with my brother, friends were really golden days, no greater graphics can give me better enjoyment than that childhood psp games.

[@mg_phopla]

Wow, I haven't watched your videos in a long time. I remember the high energy Dean Marney times, but I have to say, I love the cool and calm approach a lot more. Subbed👌🏾👍🏾

[@nrabbi93]

It is a mixture of getting older and EA not innovating enough to keep seasoned players interested.

[@nathanielnot4u]

idk took me a month to get an 89 overall team with full chem, got two of my favorite players in there. kinda love that

[@martinv.8750]

Ive just bough myself a PS3 to play Fifa 09 Manager Mode and i have enjoyed it so much. Im now 28 and I miss that feeling of Novelty of old school fifa

[@stevenmuniz4434]

Bro same here I’m 26 and I been playing since 05 and I also went and got a ps3 but to play fifa 10 career mode. It made me feel so nostalgic and very sad at the same time for some reason.

[@martinv.8750]

@@stevenmuniz4434 I feel you brooo

[@Grimmster10]

I stopped watching your videos a while back because I thought they were getting repetitive, but dude, major props vizeh, I think these new videos you have been making recently are definitely some of your best work. Great Video Vizeh!

[@Vizeh]

I've changed the content alot, this is kind of a throwback to what I used to do but just wanted to get it all out there as I felt in the mood to speak about it

[@disudopwn]

i can relate as well, used to play fifa 12-14 endlessly in career mode, just discovering new players and evolving my team endlessly

[@ihsaanrawat2583]

I think the only reason why I'm still enjoying FIFA 23 as much as I am is because I haven't experienced the "burnout" that long time players have experienced. Only really got into FIFA during 17 and then skipped 18-20 and then came back at 21 and still playing 23 till today

[@broskination8733]

Thing is I look even as recently as fifa 20 with good memories, I feel like it’s just time over the actual games

[@JesseShortss]

Truth is you’re right I’m 18 now and I played FIFA 14 and 15 and there’s this emotional connection to it but now it’s either you load up FIFA points and waste money or you can’t win or enjoy the game

[@CurreyPirate]

Fifa 12 Nilmar with Pato or Wellington as Striker and David Luiz, Felipe , and Dede at Center back was the drug that fully got me into FUT.

[@Yumbos]

It happened to me but in my case with Minecraft, that game will always remain as a cool friend forever, but nowadays I just don't get the same fun and magic I used to have when playing with 6 or 7 years old. And the games that I like now can't even come closer to the magic that game had. I also mostly blame it on the fact that I started growing and getting more mature, but I don't want/like to forget the fun past, so I will never do it, even if it makes me nostalgic af

[@damianmacias311]

I miss the cards looking like actually card designs, and I totally agree with you saying how it does feel like doing a lot of objectives and sbc’s. That stuff ruined the game for me tbh.

[@sagoe_7]

this video made me sad but i will confess i watched while playing a squad battle

[@erict4807]

They need madden theme teams Example: Leicester fan has his past and present squad. He can change guys like Kante and Mahrez team on the card to Leicester (since they played there) and the more Leicester players on ur squad the better boosts the players get (madden makes sure every team get cards too)

[@gn0015]

My first FIFA games were 99 and 2000, can't remember which one because when I started both were available at the PC cafe that I went to. Back then it was so fun and simple, start season mode, choose a team, sign players and you go for three or four seasons. I think around 04 or 05 was when it got a bit challenging (which I welcomed) when you could no longer sign players as you please, some players wanted to leave etc. but it was still fun.

[@noahsmithmachine]

Best decision my friends and i have had is getting our friends who weren’t into soccer, into the game. We play 4-6 person draft tournaments where we select players based on the league they’re in, nationality, certain players from top 6. Certain players u-23. Has brought many great memories.

[@noahsmithmachine]

I’m nearly 22 and it feels like the good days of playing Xbox again when we are all huddled around the tv playing these tournaments

[@thethugbr0840]

this is my first fifa and im already tired of the amount of objectives that i just quit ultimate team and put all my players in an sbc

[@PoliAstroN]

The prime was definitely FIFA 12-13-14. That was peak fun. That was the creme of the crop. Everything was fun. Friends were all playing it.. now, it feels.. lonely. Sad.

[@robtattersall8928]

The problem with Fifa these days is simple, you aren't rewarded for being good at the game anymore. You are rewarded for: -buying Fifa points -Completing mind numbing objectives -menu grinding -SBC's All of which, literally anybody can do as long as you put the insane amount of time required into the game. That is why it feels like a job, its just a never ending slog to get new cards that you will have to do the same slog to replace when the next promo comes out. And the necessity to do the above is because if you don't, your team stops being competitive within a month or two thanks to the insane number of promos and SBC's and oversaturation of the player market, again, nothing to do with you being good at the game, Tactics, strategy, playstyle account for maybe 10% of your ability to win games, 90% comes down to who has the better cards.

[@sanspoint]

The biggest change for me was the soundtrack. FIFA used to focus on up and coming bands putting absolute bangers on. Now I turn the music off and get bored really quick.

[@arturoone77]

You are spot on. I remember trading my way up to NIF Ibra in Fut 13 AFTER fut 14 came out and getting super excited after packing any TOTW. Now NIF top players get outdated within a couple months and you need to grind nonstop not to fall behind the curve. There is too much content for us to ultimately enjoy it before it's outdated.

[@Danny-mt3bo]

I came back to FIFA 23 after a few years off and the main thing that got worse for me is the market. FIFA was always about the packs, building a better team, getting new cool cards. Now it’s almost impossible to pack a card that will give you enough money to seriously improve your team. I remember a few FIFAs ago packing a TOTW Douglas Costa - still remember the emotions, I built a whole new team after packing him. These days unless you get inform Mbappe all others are quick sell price. It’s so easy to get “good” cards too. But once you get a whole XI of them it takes so long to grind to those elite cards (Jairzinho, R9, Lucio, TOTYs, etc). Right now all players on my team are 700K+ cards. I make about 150K profit from WL rewards. So it would take me like 2 months to grind to a much better card than those I already have. Ultimately, packing a good card doesn’t feel special anymore because the market is garbage. And that’s why FIFA is dead for me.

[@zuffin1864]

I wait until i get the feeling of "i want to play fifa" to turn it on. I am so terrible at the game but i still play

[@CracknDFlesh26]

for me its just age im 41...coming from the Nintendo generation, I've been playing FIFA since Sega days and i would play for hours now ill play a game here and there every once awhile i guess im slowly growing out of it...