Why Finland is the happiest country in the world

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@redblueiris
@redblueiris 2 ай бұрын
The less you talk with each other, the happier you are... that's what every introvert knows
@user-k4d-e59mo28oc
@user-k4d-e59mo28oc 2 ай бұрын
The less you talk with each other - face-to-face - (and the more you comment on social media) the HAPPIER you are!
@ae6616
@ae6616 2 ай бұрын
totally agree! less conflict with others
@0Flow0
@0Flow0 7 күн бұрын
I have more peace when I keep to myself
@redblueiris
@redblueiris 7 күн бұрын
@@0Flow0 The title of Finland's national anthem... 🙃
@pl2305
@pl2305 2 ай бұрын
Modesty is finnish key to happiness. We dont wish or expect much. We just want be in peace and enjoy sauna nearby lake in forest. Nothing more. Or maybe few cold drinks and iskelmä😊
@user-k4d-e59mo28oc
@user-k4d-e59mo28oc 2 ай бұрын
Uh . . . Finland with 5.5m people, has won around 490 Olympic Medals, more than many much larger nations, and among the top, per capita-wise. Plus 5 Nobel Prizes. And before Steve built upon the Nokia 9210, Nokia was one of the world's most valued companies.
@ClemensKatzer
@ClemensKatzer 2 ай бұрын
As a German living in Finland, I absolutely agree with the guy from 4:50 onwards. It is about the absence of problems. You put in a decent amount of effort and have a decent life. I have often said, that survey should rather be called "contentness" report.
@orys
@orys 2 ай бұрын
I am Polish, I lived in the UK for many years and I live in Helsinki now. I can second what you say. Finland is the country that just works. A lot of it is in the little things. If you don't have to worry that your bus won't turn up, that your bins won't be emptied, if you don't have to worry if you'll have money to buy food by the end of the month and if your flat is well maintained and the streets are clear, then that makes your life much more pleasant.
@ClemensKatzer
@ClemensKatzer 2 ай бұрын
@@orys Thanks! Yes. Less inequality (income, wealth) IMO means less crime. That it is "mostly mono-ethical" probably helps too. In Tampere (population 255.000) 7 year olds (first grade) walk to school or take public transportation. 12 year olds bike alone to the playground at the other end of the street. Or anywhere else, for that matter. My view of the world or of "societies" is as follows: Over time, people have grouped together in bigger and bigger groups - clans, villages, cities, fiefdoms/small kingdoms, nation states. In a society there are things where it is much better that they are build and managed in an organized way (like roads, schools, firemen, police, defense, ...). Somebody has to collect the money for that (=taxes) and decide what to do with which priority. That's the government. Opinions vary which matters should be handled at which level - as we see there's many ways in Europe alone. But conceptually, government should be taking care of spending the collected money in a way that it is most beneficial to the population as a whole. And my feeling is, the Finnish government is doing a good job in that. I still have to hear any Finn saying "taxation is theft". It isn't. It's well spent (for the most part, anyway). In contrast, my impression of the USA is, that the government primarily organizes things so that it's most beneficial for the corporations and the rich and powerful few. And Germany, where I was born, _IMHO_ is becoming more and more like the USA. I moved to Finland in 1999, and never had any regrets. Not once. (Yes, the weather has it's downsides (and upsides), and the language is a beast, but on all things that matter to me ... Finland wins.)
@mikitz
@mikitz 2 ай бұрын
On a very basic level, it's all about trust. Once you lose it, you'll lose social cohesion. Once you lose that, everyone is out there for their own and so on, making everyone miserable in general.
@ClemensKatzer
@ClemensKatzer 2 ай бұрын
@@mikitz Couldn't agree more.
@user-k4d-e59mo28oc
@user-k4d-e59mo28oc 2 ай бұрын
@@mikitz It's really the other way around. In most countries, there is _too much_ trust. As a result people often fall victim to scams, swindles and outright theft. Trust is a byproduct of a society with complete honesty, integrity, transparency and accountability.
@abrahamk9
@abrahamk9 2 ай бұрын
As a 44 year old man, I want to grow up to be Lena. 😂😂😂😂
@DNA350ppm
@DNA350ppm 2 ай бұрын
The language barrier makes it hard for foreigners to experience Finns as they are among themselves, and the other way around. Finns are actually so much more relaxed, humour-loving, and approachable than is generally believed. Of course there is no widespread samba culture, but there is a very special tango-culture; there isn't year around street cafeterias, but there are "kissan-ristiäiset" (which means that if you have nothing else to celebrate, you can always arrange to baptize a kitten, in other words, you need no reason); there is no all year around beach-days, but there are millions of saunas, and beloved everyday sauna-traditions, which are so very Finnish you will not get them, and which you don't have in any other country. In Finland Xmas is celebrated from mid November through January, with something called "Pikkujoulut". In winter there is also laskiaiset, tobaggonning for children and adults, or ice-skating with music, and choirs and karaoke and metal-bands galore; only in Finland there are very special choirs, like the screaming choir that doesn't sing, just shouts. Or the wife-carrying competitions, or the wellington-throwing competitions, or air-guitar-playing competitions. And without competitions: you can play at having a restaurant for a day, or you can celebrate Friends' day instead of Valentine's day, or you can rehearse all year for the summer-performance of a comic theater-play which makes you locally famous - one in every municipality. When a tourist comes in the summer, he sees other tourists, Finns have fled the cities. I wish you all could read and reflect on Arto Paasilinna's books, maybe a key to Finnish humour and take on life.
@Blazjul
@Blazjul 2 ай бұрын
What an informative comment, thank you, I learned as much from you as from the video, which I thought was well done
@henningvisser1108
@henningvisser1108 Ай бұрын
Happy? Wrong. Finns are content with what they have. A solid social structure, highly educated, very professional work ethics, mutual tolerance among their own, absolutely trustworthy and once they trust you as an outsider, you become part of their inner circle. They have one of the lowest crime stats in the world. I have worked for and with Finns, (all professional engineers) for about ten years in mining and smelting technology projects, mostly in South Africa. They are just an amazing people. I did 4 work related tours in Finland and have experienced both mid winter (February) and mid summer (June). Temperatures may vary between 30 C in summer to Minus 30 C during winter. Crossing the Arctic circle at Rovaniemi twice, was my most cherished experience.
@ClemensKatzer
@ClemensKatzer 2 ай бұрын
One factor is probably also work-life balance. Worker unions are pretty strong in all the Nordics (AFAIK). I do my 37.5 hours/week job. It's actually regulated by law that it's very hard to do more. Your boss just asking you should do it so that the project gets ready in time won't fly. If at all, then as temporary shift: i.e., you do more now for some days/weeks, you get paid overtime bonus if on weekend, but the hours are piled up and when rush is over, you MUST take the time off to reduce the saldo to normal. Getting them paid out is not usually done either. We have flexible time, I can save up to 40 hours saldo. More than 40: on payday it's cut to 40. Below -40: on payday you will have a talk with your boss and HR. Project people (who go to customer), can pile up up to 80, but they MUST once per year go down to zero. For contrast in Germany, what I hear from school friends, IT and middle management, they expect you to do 50-60 hours per week ("included in the base salary"), and if you don't do that, you are on the list to be the first to be fired.
@timoleon2903
@timoleon2903 2 ай бұрын
The laugh of a young child makes me always happy because of its innocence.
@0Flow0
@0Flow0 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for making a fun video about this subject. Love the skating grandma! She is my new idol. Love from Finland.
@BradThePitts
@BradThePitts 2 ай бұрын
Having been to Finland several times, my observation is more that they are "content" - which is not exactly the same as "happy." Then seem to pride in modestly, for example, I noticed not one set of "custom rims" on any car - even if on a higher-end car such as a BMW.
@dweuromaxx
@dweuromaxx 2 ай бұрын
That’s an interesting observation - perhaps it’s true what our Happiness Researcher said: Finns aren’t necessarily ecstatic or joyful, but rather happy or satisfied in many facets of life.
@Nunnuka
@Nunnuka 2 ай бұрын
i'd say we don't need material things for real happiness, sure it's cool to have all kind of stuff but that does not make anybody happy in the end, real emotions and reactions, genuine smiles and hobbies you love makes you happy, and i'd argue that real nature makes almost anybody happy, like i do have custom wheels on my motorbike, that does not make me happy, that just makes my bike look better, being home with my spouse or going to fishing is what makes me way happier, things you want versus things you need
@ninjal7588
@ninjal7588 2 ай бұрын
I see custom rims all the time, however usually they are on older cars which are owned by hobbyists. Those hobbyists also don't visit the Helsinki center often in proportion to other people, they prefer driving in the city outskirts where they have a lot of space to drive and meet up with other car enthusiasts. Non-car-enthusiasts may have an expensive car but don't care about modifying it.
@ErnaBjørn
@ErnaBjørn 24 күн бұрын
I intend to visit Finland soon, kiss from Norway❤
@NellieLouiseBanks-ph5bt
@NellieLouiseBanks-ph5bt 11 күн бұрын
You boosted my smile at the end being you.
@patrickuotinen
@patrickuotinen 2 ай бұрын
I don't agree about trying to somehow connect sisu and happiness. They are totally different things. Sisu is about doing what is right or what is needed or dying trying. That doesn't have anything to do with happiness. If and when Finns are happy, that comes from low expectations (you can't get disappointed, if you don't expect too much), and from not taking things too seriously, enjoying peace and silence, and of course sauna.
@sampohonkala4195
@sampohonkala4195 2 ай бұрын
I get the point; sisu has directly little to do with happiness. But I think there is a connection: difficulties and stress do cause unhappiness, and the concept of sisu gives strength and hope; we can survive this, no matter how hard it gets. I think that is part of the measured average happiness: the feeling of total misery without hope is rare because of sisu.
@patrickuotinen
@patrickuotinen 2 ай бұрын
@@sampohonkala4195 I still don't agree, because sisu is what you use in hopeless situations. And though sometimes you might for your surprise succeed despite the odds, usually a hopeless situarion means, that you won't, even if you try with sisu. So it usually doesn't lead to happiness.
@sampohonkala4195
@sampohonkala4195 2 ай бұрын
@@patrickuotinen True, does not lead to happiness but as we measure averages, that is not needed. Reducing the utter unhappiness will do.
@patrickuotinen
@patrickuotinen 2 ай бұрын
@@sampohonkala4195 Sisu is associated to situation, where people most definitely aren't happy. Take the most famous, Talvisota (Winter War). Were the Finns happy, that the much bigger Soviet Union attacked us? No. Were the Finns happy, that their homes were bombed? No. Were the Finns happy of the tens of thousands casualities? No. Were the Finns happy, that they had to cede a large part of their territory to USSR and pay reparations? No. Did they have sisu? Yes.
@sampohonkala4195
@sampohonkala4195 2 ай бұрын
@@patrickuotinen I think in this context the Winter War is rather irrelevant, as we now measure the happiness here and now. But again, I would say that without Sisu the front would have broken and until 1991 Finland would have been a Soviet Socialist Republic like Estonia with a 35% Russian population. Therefore even with the unfortunate war, we can now be happy that the soldiers had sisu.
@c_cma1971
@c_cma1971 2 ай бұрын
Hello from Bucharest, Romania - a huge underrated city in Europe:) Known also as "Little Paris"!
@dweuromaxx
@dweuromaxx 2 ай бұрын
Perhaps we should visit :)?
@user-k4d-e59mo28oc
@user-k4d-e59mo28oc 2 ай бұрын
"Little Paris" . . . largely before 1977 (though the People's Palace has become a famous landmark in its own right).
@VenusEvan_1885
@VenusEvan_1885 Ай бұрын
City in Europe? 😂🤣Romania is not in Europe, it's in Balkan.
@viffer94
@viffer94 2 ай бұрын
I watched the movie Sisu recently. He didn’t look too happy to me. 😊
@mikitz
@mikitz 2 ай бұрын
He was just about as happy as you'll get while living in Lapland.
@Jerchw
@Jerchw 16 күн бұрын
He was happy at the end when he could change his overweighted gold to much lighter paper money.
@MichaelBone-hj7sr
@MichaelBone-hj7sr 2 ай бұрын
Circle of Trust = Happiness. Its the Happiness Quotient you have to Work At.
@kscptv
@kscptv 2 ай бұрын
Baking and making good food for family and friends like Chef Luka said.
@MikhailTravels
@MikhailTravels 2 ай бұрын
Привет 🙋🏼‍♂️ Спасибо за интересное видео 📹
@PutuWiwidBudiastra
@PutuWiwidBudiastra 2 ай бұрын
I think I'm going to make a pottery sausage after this just to make myself happy
@PathOfbeauty0
@PathOfbeauty0 2 ай бұрын
So nice
@smp332012
@smp332012 2 күн бұрын
I wish I had passions. That old skateboarder hit me right in the face saying get off the couch and go do something. I just don't have anything to do.
@DavidGreen-hp5yq
@DavidGreen-hp5yq 2 ай бұрын
Could "Safty first" be part of your unhappiness?
@halcyon-cg2eb
@halcyon-cg2eb 16 күн бұрын
I don't get it: Finland is supposed to be the happiest country in the world but according to World Population Review, they are also in the Top 10 of the countries with the highest rates of depression. How does this make any sense?
@allu9951
@allu9951 2 ай бұрын
We are known pessimists alwahs expecting worst to happen and when it does not happen we are happy
@emiljavier6163
@emiljavier6163 2 ай бұрын
Sisu isnt that a movie?
@0Flow0
@0Flow0 7 күн бұрын
Yes the movie is also called Sisu. It's a Finnish sentiment.
@mikaellindroos1594
@mikaellindroos1594 2 ай бұрын
We Finns are neighboring to Russia and there we have the biggest reason for our happines. Russia come out day after day with more and more crazy laws impossible to hold up for crazy laughs.Big contrast between common sense vs. crazy totalirism,1300km border.
@patrickfitzgerald2861
@patrickfitzgerald2861 2 ай бұрын
The weather here in San Diego, California makes me happy . . . and the girls in bikinis at the beach! 🥰
@riittakeskikuru8172
@riittakeskikuru8172 2 ай бұрын
We certaInly have SISU when it is needed and other nation (read Russia could attack again into our country). Then I think instantly about 100% of Finns will take everything forces to defence our country and indepence even we belong to NATO now. . The main reasons are probably that the first things in life are like: Our purpose isn't to earn money and be rich, we don't speak with each other EVER about this matter. This is mostly incorrect (you get nothing with you after death, maybe from our history and just and....I don't know), very peaceful nature and how we protect it, enjoying little things, many to go not so incredible summer houses near lakes - and trusting the police, president, goverment, (despite what is your opinion), freedom to the media, education, medicare ...many other things, ANd the reasons why it's possible us and to our neighbors (Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Iceland). The reason is same: taxes to give our all this. It's a choice. This was a nice story like many others are, about happiness, thanks. But it would be much better by just learning at least a bit of our history etc because it is quite. different than other our loved Nordic neighbors. They know it well.
@romyardianto5723
@romyardianto5723 2 ай бұрын
9:40 I like him and his handsome face with glasses❤. Even though I never know his name and social media account name😢
@RealH0melanderr
@RealH0melanderr 2 ай бұрын
This is a troll we are not happiest people lol😂
@Bookreviewer-n5e
@Bookreviewer-n5e Ай бұрын
Because they drink alcogol a lot.
@cinderellaandstepsisters
@cinderellaandstepsisters Ай бұрын
No they don't. Finland's alcohol consumption has gone drastically down in 20 years. Finland's alcohol consumption is in the middle of Europe. For instance Russia's alcohol consumption is much higher.
@sumosprojects
@sumosprojects 2 ай бұрын
Food, less people in one area, beer 🍺
@anneliseppanen9105
@anneliseppanen9105 25 күн бұрын
With Family and Friends by lake.😄
@arnabbiswas3973
@arnabbiswas3973 2 ай бұрын
Finnland neids milanin project wer wasser ist harvested buying individually wo t work i guess dimensions und volume mite b bigger wen ist winter in mp04 hafiz rfq a yodha via zakir aims wheelie chair redemptions dry coach means 220🥜🥜🥜🐪
@josersleal
@josersleal 2 ай бұрын
because the consumption of psyco drugs/anti depressants has increased exponetially?
@omenapiiras
@omenapiiras Ай бұрын
Lmao i promise not all of us take those, just about 70%
@cinderellaandstepsisters
@cinderellaandstepsisters Ай бұрын
Google the statistics. Finland is not at the top.
@Q-Mac_
@Q-Mac_ 2 ай бұрын
Visit Finland in the winter to see how "happy" people are. 🥶
@darkmatter5424
@darkmatter5424 2 ай бұрын
"Happiest" = highest suicide rate 😅
@dweuromaxx
@dweuromaxx 2 ай бұрын
Finland has actualled reduced (halbved) its rates in recent years through national prevention programs and improved mental healthcare, placing it in the European average.
@martinc.720
@martinc.720 2 ай бұрын
Not true. But even if it was... how would that be funny?
@cinderellaandstepsisters
@cinderellaandstepsisters Ай бұрын
Finland's suicide rates have gone drastically down in 30 years. When do these lies of Finland end. Watch the statistics in the video " Comparison suicide rates by countries/Country suicide rate comparison." 62 highest suicide countries and Finland is not even mentioned. The highest suicide countries are: The 1st RUSSIA. The 2nd South Korea. The 3rd Kazakstan. The 4th Ukraine and the 5 th Japan.
@do7744
@do7744 Ай бұрын
I thought the USA was the greatest country on earth
@patrickd8770
@patrickd8770 2 ай бұрын
Anyone going to mention they have very low immigration rates and hostile to foreigners moving there?
@z821
@z821 2 ай бұрын
These PR campaigns don't fool me. Finland is a ghost town
@mantelikukkapenkki2368
@mantelikukkapenkki2368 2 ай бұрын
We are hostile towards anyone who doesn't follow rules and act like a**holes
@patrickd8770
@patrickd8770 2 ай бұрын
@@mantelikukkapenkki2368 if only other countries had common sense like this
@pl2305
@pl2305 2 ай бұрын
Still too much immigrants. It was better at my childhood/teenage aka like 15years ago.
@mantelikukkapenkki2368
@mantelikukkapenkki2368 2 ай бұрын
@@pl2305 Personally i have nothing against immigrants, they mostly come here to work and otherwise behave properly. What i don't want or need, are these "asylum seekers" leeching off social security and causing constant havoc. Those are two totally different species
@liamcregan5187
@liamcregan5187 2 ай бұрын
Antidepressants
@user-k4d-e59mo28oc
@user-k4d-e59mo28oc 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, especially in places like West Virginia, Kentucky, Ohio, Mississippi, Arkansas.
@cinderellaandstepsisters
@cinderellaandstepsisters Ай бұрын
Google it. Finland is not at the top.
@firmanprawirawardhanafirma5644
@firmanprawirawardhanafirma5644 2 ай бұрын
really? how about protester will be there soon.
@teemum.9023
@teemum.9023 2 ай бұрын
Because the child protection takes our kids, lies about our actions and words as to punish for disobeying the authorities and tells they are happy
@butterflies655
@butterflies655 2 ай бұрын
Don't tell lies!
@mikitz
@mikitz 2 ай бұрын
You know, the child protection wouldn't be a problem if certain parents did their job right. It's about the kids' happiness, not their parents'.
@McDuggets
@McDuggets 2 ай бұрын
@@mikitzbro this Teemu character has streamed on tiktok about this case and it has been fairly obvious that he indeed did abuse his children
@walli6388
@walli6388 2 ай бұрын
Don't they have one of the highest s**cide rates?
@mantelikukkapenkki2368
@mantelikukkapenkki2368 2 ай бұрын
Yes, about 50 years ago
@dweuromaxx
@dweuromaxx 2 ай бұрын
Yes, Finland has had a high suicide rate in the past. Fortunately, due to government initiatives, the rate has almost halved in recent years
@butterflies655
@butterflies655 2 ай бұрын
Watch the statistics in the video "Comparison suicide rates by countries/Country suicide rate comparison." 62 highest suicide countries and Finland is not even mentioned. The highest suicide country is Russia.
@anneliseppanen9105
@anneliseppanen9105 2 ай бұрын
😬😁It is maybe happiness You get Out of your life -THIS LIFE- when You decide to do it yourself!😂😇😍🤩
@DNA350ppm
@DNA350ppm 2 ай бұрын
After the tragedies of the 5 year long WW2 and the hard rebuildning years after them, Finland was a traumatized country with lots of war and military veterans who were wounded body and soul. The economy was harsh. Almost all families were in sorrow somehow, for persons, homes, opportunities lost, irrepairable damages experienced. Veterans were not well provided for in every case, some became alcoholics and homeless. Mental health care was not prioritized before the 1970's. The happiness of a generation of men was partly destroyed. I fear that will happen in Ukraine, too. It took three generations to repair in Finland.
@MannyQuintero-f8v
@MannyQuintero-f8v 2 ай бұрын
It also depends on what you want.if you want high taxes and big government intervention go to the happier countries .if you want more freedom and lower taxes come to america
@andrewreynolds912
@andrewreynolds912 2 ай бұрын
American gen z socialist here if we had something like finland had which is a social democracy not the bs soci'alist country people say it is its still mostly capitalist, it would lift millions and millions out of poverty but it won't be enough yet finland solved it's homelessness problem is just amazing
@justbeegreen
@justbeegreen 2 ай бұрын
For the original poster: Wow - you really don’t get it. Know your American history: we almost got universal healthcare during FDR - but greedy and racist people put a stop to that. Finland has more freedom than Americans - freedom to choose how much they want to work - they are not tied to 40 hrs/wk so they can receive healthcare that is dependent upon an employer. American healthcare is a sh!t show - the privatized hospitals are failing - look at Steward Medical Grouo in Massachusetts - the CEO spent money on himself and didn’t put money back into the hospitals and workers - now TWO hospitals are closing and hundreds of healthcare workers will be without work. Our insurance companies are scams too. It’s not about protecting individual freedom it’s protecting corporate and shareholder interests and giving them the freedom to harm workers and environment and how much money they can make off the American public. This has been the downfall of our systems here - and we need to move toward a cooperative and democratic-socialist mindset. Gen X here and I know the definition of freedom and the type of commercial « freedom » that is marketed to us in the US. Get a clue.
@butterflies655
@butterflies655 2 ай бұрын
The poverty you see in America and in Russia you cannot see in Finland or in any other Nordic countries.
@ClemensKatzer
@ClemensKatzer 2 ай бұрын
If you want to put in a decent amount of work and have a decent life, come to the Nordics. 90%+ success rate. One won't get super rich here, but it's very difficult to reach a situation of being stuck in the bottom (unemployed, living on the streets) forever. If you want a chance to get rich by putting in a _lot_ of effort, with significant risk/chance of ending up below poverty line if you are not quite good enough, then go to the USA.
@martinc.720
@martinc.720 2 ай бұрын
People in countries in Finland are not free? I'm pretty sure they are allowed to do whatever they want. Stop acting like you live in the only country that's not a dictatorship.
@sleepysam2015
@sleepysam2015 2 ай бұрын
Yet, Finland 🇫🇮 won zero medals in this Olympics.
@PatrickRoyale-zn2ec
@PatrickRoyale-zn2ec 2 ай бұрын
Uhh the heck? What makes you post this type of comment?! Ya tryna piss people off? Cause what you are saying is completely false. I feel guilty on even responding🙄
@anneliseppanen9105
@anneliseppanen9105 25 күн бұрын
Perhaps next Olympics.👍
@edgarhernandez3059
@edgarhernandez3059 2 ай бұрын
In Finland there are plenty of suicides, depression,, addicts, drugs and alcoholism. A lot of taxes. Yes is peaceful but boring.
@takomakone3234
@takomakone3234 2 ай бұрын
Man, you have no idea of what you are talking about
@peketee2278
@peketee2278 2 ай бұрын
Did you read that in a newspaper from the 60s? things are no longer as you might imagine from the newspapers found in the attic...😂
@user-k4d-e59mo28oc
@user-k4d-e59mo28oc 2 ай бұрын
You're strawmanning Finland in place of West Virginia, Kentucky, Ohio, Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana (Finland with 5.5m people have won 490 Olympic Medals and 5 Nobel Prizes. Before Steve pinched off the Nokia 9210, Nokia was one of the world's most valued companies).
@edgarhernandez3059
@edgarhernandez3059 2 ай бұрын
@@takomakone3234 i am currently living in Finland. Already 16 years in Helsinki. Drugs are everywhere in Helsinki, Espoo, Rovaniemi, Lahti.
@edgarhernandez3059
@edgarhernandez3059 2 ай бұрын
@@user-k4d-e59mo28oc Finns did well with nokia, then hired Elop, and he sold nokia in a garage sale anf got 25 million usd for puting in bankruptcy Nokia.
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