Why FULL Potential Anakin Would EMBARRASS Abeloth - Star Wars Explained

[@redbirb1571]

Abeloth feared death. Thats how she became Abeloth in the first place. Anakin literally and casually decided to revive himself into a complete other dimension just to defend something almost unreachable.

[@jamesirons963]

Most likely obi wan taught Vader how to transcend after dying on the Death Star, and that’s how he IS a force ghost now… But he still has the same rules and abilities as yoda in the last Jedi, therefore he is NOT an all powerful celestial but a Jedi trapped in his own full potential GHOST essence until his time is done in this realm.. With that being said, I can’t wait for this epic showdown! #TeamAbeloth!

[@Dropsey818]

@@jamesirons963 😂😂😂

[@jamesirons963]

@@redbirb1571 That’s not how the force works… And we already saw him (anakin) becoming a force ghost at the end of the last Jedi dude….. I know it’s been awhile but maybe you should go back and re-watch everything.. he’s been a force ghost… And the way Dave made it seem in Ashoka is that he’s been guarding the world of worlds, which makes total sense that both his apprentice Ashoka was able to escape with Ezra without being stopped by some force meant to keep order, and also why his master palpatine had a “tie or in” to be able to perform his sith alchemy and gain a way in. (catching Ezra) Remember when palpatine did this to yoda in clone wars? Essentially he needed Duku’s “tie” or connection through the force to yoda in order to complete his sith alchemy and have a way in… He also needed the “tie’s” sith lighting to make it work… Palpatine possessed a connection with Vader and anakin, and it was his lightning! This always confused me at the end of rebels….. As palpatine had NO connection to either Ezra or Ashoka! But Dave must have heard our pleas, because he’s correcting plot holes and giving us plot twists at the same time.. and spreading them out in the Star Wars universe.

[@timesupea]

Anakin should marry Abeloth and become the cosmic toxic couple

[@histguy101]

Anakin is just a man, and mortal

[@alphadios2003]

Due to the fact that Legends was cancelled before Abeloth's arc was resolved, we can conclude the Abeloth actually destroyed the Legends timeline, while being incarnated as her Real life Avatar called Kathleen Kennedy. This is a Z3 Class Apocalypse How!

[@bradenjohn2671]

lmao, you have no girlfriend

[@dendrien]

lmao nor do you.@@bradenjohn2671

[@blooddrawer]

i'd accept that over it being non cannon

[@alphadios2003]

@@bradenjohn2671 ahem.... how so...

[@zedbruh7212]

It all adds up

[@Pyro-et9vs]

Abeloth: “I am chaos incarnate! FEAR ME!” Anakin: “that’s cute. Time to teach you a lesson”

[@zeerak1148]

Vader: Been there done that.

[@Viper72]

As you mentioned in a previous video my concern is not if he is powerful enough.. but rather if he can utilize this power in the real world rather than just be a force ghost. I love Anakin’s character and Hayden’s redeemed portrayal of him. I hope they can continue to build upon it and remind everyone who the true hero of all of Star Wars actually is. I believe Hayden deserves this and so do we as fans.

[@robertphillips213]

Sometimes the hero is not the one who defeats the villain themselves, only enable another to do so: in this case, Ahsoka is the hero who ensures Anakin can take on Abeloth.

[@elfather2045]

We literally have seen force ghost interact with the physical world many times, even Anakin much later in the timeline fight with many intangible beings to save Luke from death, so yeah they obviously can utilize theirs powers in the real world.

[@logandelaharpe6362]

Yoda burning a book

[@patdawg1980]

@@robertphillips213 ahsoka has nothing to do with it

[@adrianaslund8605]

That's exactly what I think. He might have control over his plane of existence but that doesn't translate to the outside world. I think that It's more likely that he would be locked out of being to able to fight Abeloth and serve more as a guide to the heroes.

[@Jimboreeee]

"Even masters of force healing have difficulty healing wounds and cannot do it perfectly" Rey: Hold my plot hole.

[@DyslexicLivesMattress]

Awful isn't it

[@ichigothe0espada612]

Shut it Mary Sue...

[@johndomaleczny8447]

Anakin may be the embodiment of all 3, not just the father

[@newhybrid101]

He is LESS than the Father,lets not overhype him. The Father was also manifestion of the Force just like Anakin,only The Father was celestial There is literally no scenario where Anakin surpasses the Father. The writers even said The Father is stronger than Mortis Anakin Whatever way Anakin embodies the Force the Father does by default to a greater degree. He was only seen as the next best solution when the Father was dying.

[@kingofantigua89]

@@newhybrid101and when exactly did the writers say this?? Because I can’t find that anywhere fam

[@josiahkeroff9965]

Or potentially the force itself.

[@thalmoragent9344]

​@@newhybrid101 Well, Anakin in life, yeah. But Anakin has essentially ascended to Godhood in death, given no other force ghost has ever reached this level of interaction nearly as much

[@No.1GodzillaGlazer]

@@newhybrid101 No lol, FP Anakin would be above the Father lmao

[@Sifu-Myers]

I'm glad Anakin is finally getting the treatment he deserved it always felt he got cheated of showing what we could have seen. I get why but it's good he's living up to what his role is meant to be.

[@dendrien]

okey. could you elaborate on what you meant by this? Did Lucas made him into a failoure in the first place? or did Disney? im pretty sure the movies was clear about his failoure was his own doing.

[@originalSiiiN]

@@dendrien it so much more complicated than that my friend. do some research into the lore and you will understand more than what the movies can teach you 🙏

[@albertlamar5938]

Hayden looked so awesome in Ahsoka, I would be happen with a season of him adventuring with Ahsoka in an alternate reality, via the World Between Worlds. We could have great stories without worrying about the sequel continuity.

[@RK-ck6pl]

Please Star Wars gods don't let this happen..

[@Futura2500]

Ahsoka second season is in doubt

[@vegasdavis5404]

What a awesome idea

[@nezarecdiscipleofthewitnes3823]

​@@Futura2500the finale was titled as "season" finale not "series"... we're getting a second season

[@davidfebreeze428]

So you want a bad fannfiction series on a massive budget to fuck up this franchise even more?😂

[@teddykazandjiev]

I think this is a great theory and it would explain why Anakin( or Ahsoka) didn't bother with the First Order and Palpatine. At that point Anakin was so far beyond Palpatine that he didn't even bother. He concerned himself with far greater forces that could bring cataclysmic events to pass.

[@histguy101]

Anakin killed Palpatine

[@jiangniaoli9270]

@@histguy101 he got ressucted

[@zeerak1148]

​@@histguy101 I like this guy 😂

[@Yokai_Yuri]

That is a HUGE maybe. Even force itself was afraid or despised Abeloth while prime Anakin could be considered " the force itself"

[@robertbarber1198]

He can’t beat her at all it’s just foolish speculation her power is far too much Luke only fought an avatar of her.

[@ajthegreat1826]

If the force is afraid of her why doesn’t it just take away her power s because all her powers are from the force

[@robertbarber1198]

@@ajthegreat1826likely unable to do so

[@newhybrid101]

He isnt the Force,he is just a human manifestation of the Force who had the potential to ascend above the mortal realm Why do people wank Anakin so much?

[@BeHoly10]

​@@ajthegreat1826 Because she is the anti force she is everything that the force itself does not embody She uses her powers in way that the force cannot

[@codyburgett7962]

Luke killed abeloth, and anakin in his prime has been confirmed as more powerful than prime Luke skywalker

[@jakealter5504]

Not in legends

[@robertbarber1198]

Let’s make something clear he killed an avatar of abeloth that’s number one. Second she’s 12 times more powerful than grandmaster Luke 12

[@DaG.O.A.T.]

He didn't kill abeloth only weaken her for a time

[@marceljohnson2215]

No one killed her. They sealed, they meaning he had help. Anakin at full potential still wouldn’t have more effective than Luke

[@kookuclock]

Grandmaster Luke Skywalker: Am I a joke to you?

[@KazuyaVeranes]

11:45 “We need to address the Bantha in the room.” I laughed probably more than I should’ve. 😂

[@ninjaman7123]

For those confused, hes talking about a hypothetical Anakin from CANON, not Legends. In Legends, Luke achieved Anakin's potential and was 12x weaker than Abeloth

[@jamesirons963]

Correct technically there is NO evidence of CANNON ABELOTH! Or her power level, the only thing we have to go off of is legends… And technically there is NO way of knowing how powerful anakin is at this point either… However legends ABELOTH? Anakin’s going to need some help! Even with the edge, (the mortis blade) up his sleeve, there’s NO guarantee it would work… However I think it would be hilarious if abeloth kept using all her crazy powers on force ghost anakin, and each time he dies a horrible death… he just reappears taunting abeloth to keep her focused while Ashoka gets the mortis blade for him to use against her..

[@KraNisOG]

Luke never obtained Anakin's level, which would at the very least be twice as powerful ad Luke as Anakin's Midi-count was twice that side, but full-potential Anakin would be stronger as well since he isn't bound to once side. He is in balance.

[@ninjaman7123]

@@KraNisOG George Lucas HIMSELF said Luke achieved Anakin's potential and was 12x weaker than Abeloth. You can't argue with the creator himself. You pulled that ''twice as powerful'' from your ass. Stop lying.

[@zanewaddoups3653]

I love where this is going! And I'd love too see the mortis theory and all of the rest brought together! This all intrigues me!

[@eskanda3434]

The 12x weaker line was not Luke being 12x weaker in the force it was that abeleoth physical strength was that much stronger then him big difference

[@biglawngnome]

And even when he was on Mortis he was able to completely subdue the Son and Daughter in their beast forms. Pretty sure he was missing his hand already at that point too making him slightly weaker. Now thats completely whole again his strength would naturally increase in the force as weve seen. And even as vader with no arms or legs basically was able to pull back and almost stop a starship mid flight, impressive to say the least. So yeah she should be scared

[@kalebclemons]

abeloth made them bow with only a thought, and they ran from their planet in fear. abeloth is on a different level

[@davidortiz3094]

​@@kalebclemonsAnakin wasn't even in his prime when he did this. Now he is. Control over the light & dark side. With all his knowledge, experience & skills, Anakin would do far better than Luke. He was literally created by the force. Luke wasn't.

[@kalebclemons]

@@davidortiz3094 abeloth drank from a pure source of dark force power, and has all the knowledge of the past from the light side nexus as well. shes done feats that cannot be described. 3 mortis gods and dozens of black holes are used to imprison her. she cannot die, and has powers over the force, not discussed here, that no one else possesses. even if anakin were stronger than GM luke, hes not 12+ times stronger than he is. and what experiences could he have at his young age compared to a force being that has lived for thousands of years and can possess multiple bodies across the universe ? abeloth eats any force user alive. i dont think u are aware of what it took to actually beat abeloth back, not kill her, temporarily defeat her. shes still out there, capable of physical form. anakin is a human force ghost now. his "full potential" in this scenario, is an apparition that might not even be physical in world between worlds. abeloth has created her own pocket dimension and realm of her own. these power sets do not compare in the slightest

[@zeerak1148]

@kalebclemons - Aaaand Anikan is literally the force. By control/using THE force he can get that knowledge even easier than Alborath. And with his reality warping in the world between worlds he can get plenty of experience. Also, as said by Lucas himself: Luke is not the chosen one. Even after Anakin became Darth Vader he was still the chosen one and always will be the chosen one. So don't compare Luke's potential/power level with his. (look it up on KZbin) And that "power over" the Force is just BS. It might work on a small scale like against mortal jedi and sith, but against a Anikan welding the Force of the whole galaxy? That's a whole lotta BS

[@biglawngnome]

@@zeerak1148 ☺️

[@KarlOlofsson]

Funny how the Sith ended up restoring the balance by creating Anakin, rather than make him take over with the dark side. Says something about the force and how much you can bend it to your own will.

[@tommoore2012]

It’s similar to the lore of The Lord of the Rings. Eru told Melkor that it doesn’t matter what choice or action he takes because it’s all a part of his plan anyway.

[@KarlOlofsson]

@@tommoore2012 it's also funny how humans always think about balance as something nice. But it's actually a balance between nice things and shitty things (what is what depending on perspective) lol.

[@Paal2005]

The force works in mysterious ways

[@KarlOlofsson]

@@Paal2005 isn't that the asshole that a lot of people on Earth believe in? 😆

[@BrianEthridge-wg6ko]

Yes, the living force sure sticks it to you when you're the dark side because it doesn't like getting bent and forced to do what it does because it's the living entity it rebounds and rebels!! Good point

[@BeYera3]

They way Anakin wielded his lightsaber was a delight to see. After seeing Ahsoka, Din Djarin-&-Bo Katan with the Darksaber and the entire Sequel trilogy, it's great to see how Anakin handles his blade, it was the Prequels all over, if not better.... His display of technique and effortless form shows he's on a completely different level than anyone else. And yes, I agree, Anakin as he is now would definitely dispatch Abeloth once and for all.

[@dinandroelofsen-gb1js]

Ye i think the same

[@paulpritchard206]

Hell yes!!!!!!!!!!! This what I have been wanting for a long time now a full potential Anakin Skywalker

[@robertfugate2232]

Whenever yall hear the term "Legends", in your mind does it just mean "Canon that Disney tried to do away with so technically it doest count, but it does"....or is it just me?

[@MatthewSmith-ob6zl]

I view the term “Legends” in SW as meaning: The TRUE StarWars.

[@augury2699]

@@MatthewSmith-ob6zl As soemone almost entirely new to the franchise and very much outside of the popular dicourse surrounding it, I very much enjoy the stories I hear from Legends more than what's available in current canon. Also Malgus is the GOAT any timeline without him is a failed one

[@MatthewSmith-ob6zl]

@@augury2699 Im telling you, the more stuff you read in any era, about any character, it’s better than anything in Disney canon. Yeah sad we won’t get anything with Malgus though….because Disney threw it all away for mediocre writing/development. Malgus would’ve been iconic in a show or movie

[@augury2699]

@@MatthewSmith-ob6zl The Old Republic was the greatest opportunity. Just the absolute height of Sith-Jedi conflict. The Mandalorian War, Revan. There is just so much to draw on there. Even Legends after the movie's events, with Luke's New Jedi Order had a chance. Tone it down of course, because the power creep was insane. But the Skywalker-Solo kids could've carried for a while, especially Jacen. Cade is pretty here and there for me but still another good one. Having Grandmaster Luke at least in the background would've been both a decent respect for old fans and a good write off, leave him on Mustafar for a while. Rey could've been worked in with Palpatine's clone revival from Legends and his Rule of Two slightly taking inspiration from Mara Jade and a bit of Maul's stories. But most importantly we should've gone back to see Malgus 'visit' the Jedi Temple.

[@Nathan-vt1jz]

In my mind it is the “Expanded Universe” and is the real canon of Star Wars. I really tried to give Disney the benefit of the doubt, but “The Last Jedi” was where I jumped ship in considering their work as canon. I enjoyed Rogue One, Seasons 1 & 2 of the Mandolorian were good, heard Andor is a solid series, and even The Force Awakens was tolerable - but The Last Jedi was the dishonorable murder of the IP. I tried to give them grace and even came back for the Mandolorian for a bit. Disney Star Wars is just the “Through a Mirror Dimly” alternate universe.

[@jssomewhere6740]

Ableoth, is the villain that Star Wars has been lacking. Thrawn has a expiration date. Even though they plan to make a movie with him as the antagonist. The true bad guy we have been lacking is one that will require light and dark to overcome.

[@asian123205]

funny thing is that we want get to see Thrawn in the star war movie 6,7,8. LOL So i assuming he dead or something happen to him.

[@jssomewhere6740]

@@asian123205 I think all the current series will lead up the Thrawn movie. I think it will be a stand alone. Due to the idea of him not existing in the sequels. So what is needed is what comes after the sequels. Those had almost no villain and really Thrawn is a lesser character. The franchise needs a new bad guy.

[@asian123205]

@@jssomewhere6740 true...

[@mrconfusion87]

The Sequel Trilogy would have been better had she been the MAIN VILLAIN instead!

[@asian123205]

@@mrconfusion87 ikr XC

[@Jeffthecreepyastafan]

Yet Luke thought the dagger of mortis most likely wouldn't kill abaloth and that she was a eternal entity.

[@Theassertedkaos]

Anakin has 100k minichclorian count , he's children are half of that

[@deo864]

@@Theassertedkaos genetically that doesnt necessarily make sense( they likely inheireted a gene that codes for such high midiclorian count. Genetics isnt always and average of two end , rather a recessive or dominant gene expression. likely the high midiclorian count was fully inherited and George has said Luke is just as powerful in potential as anakin.

[@gups4963]

@@Theassertedkaos Legends Luke went beyond Anakin and got lucky to re imprison abeloth

[@kharnthebetrayer1575]

@@gups4963didn’t it take Luke his full order and whatever sith where running around to stop her ?

[@thalmoragent9344]

​@@Ausaris Well, wouldn't you get half the Midichlorians in the real world via genetics, or no?

[@robioneknobe6916]

It would be very interesting and exciting to see an impossible powerhouse in the flesh go up against the ghost entity who IS the balance that the Force always knew about.

[@whiterock1865]

Hmmm what is forgotten is Anakin in shadow warrior was all three of the mortis gods and then some. He created realities and was both light and dark and in between

[@thesimpletonautum5567]

"You don't seem to understand. The galaxy isn't yours to rule."

[@JustLikeTheSimulations]

Remember, we have absolutely no confirmation on Anakin playing the role of “Father”. All we know is he has some control of the world between worlds & that The Ones have influence on Peridia. I was shocked to see those statues, quite a few leaks from Ahsoka turned out to be true.

[@magspy]

Agreed i hate how they keep pushing this weird thing of anakin as father and ahsoka as daughter its weird. It is as simple as anakin showed up because its ahsoka.

[@thalmoragent9344]

​@@magspy Facts. Anakin may be a Celestial now that he's dead, but definitely not Ahsoka

[@BenAri18]

I do find it annoying when fans make up their own canon, however this makes COMPLETE sense...The Father told Anakin the chosen one must replace him in keeping the force in balance...REPLACE being the keyword so would that not have confirmed this theory that Anakin is now the father, and him being a being created purely by the force would surely be him being the embodiment of the force and the balance, which is what The Father was... so its not really a theory its pretty much canon based on what we've been told

[@juanlaise1059]

​​@@BenAri18 He said that while Anakin was alive, and he said that he had to replace him to keep control of his children. Since they are both dead, no one needed to replace the Father. And again, to replace him, Anakin had to be alive, and he isn't. He did NOT replace the Father in any way.

[@grantfuller6123]

@@BenAri18pls stop talking lol the father is not the chosen one in star wars

[@BrianEthridge-wg6ko]

I had no idea they brought Anakin back like this! This is so cool! The first thing good in the Star wars mythos in a long time

[@BrianEthridge-wg6ko]

I said the same thing this is the only thing they did right with the entire Star wars legendarium is bring back Anakin like this I thought this was very cool got to see some of the stupid comments or this is so stupid I hate assholes like that. Although there are a lot of things they're right about but that's not the case here. Vader was doomed to begin with in life You don't get much worse cuz he was born a slave without a real father and was literally chosen by The Force itself to get crushed in life into a dark place even though he was redeemed at the end. I mean God himself if you want to call it that made him what he was and he wasn't given a lot of choice he was manipulated from before birth. They made him a good guy in the end as far as this goes and I really like that. I've always liked how God can find a good use for even the most wayward of his flock so to speak. I'm not what I would call a Bible thumper but I do believe and I like the story

[@QuietStorm4546]

I believe that full potential Anakin would have the ability to defeat Aboloft but it won't be easy even for him. While it's true that it took both the Son and Daughter of Mortis working together to defeat Aboloft, and Anakin made both of them submit/bow on their knees to him. I still don't think Anakin will defeat Aboloft very easily. The fight between Anakin and Aboloft would be a true clash of Titans. It would take Anakin have the full unbridled might, power, and passion of a Sith while maintaining a clear head, and resolution of a Jedi to beat the "Queen of the stars". Even with all of that Anakin will have to find a way to mentally and emotionally unbalance Aboloft to the point where it disrupts her abilities much like Grand Master Luke, Ben, and Vestara did.

[@abdelali9279]

Man this Abaloth sounds like some kind of big raid boss where the idea is not fight it directly but go into and andventure to find the champion that will be able to defeat her, ngl I really like to see them take this path

[@ihaveacar]

Anakin was created by the Force. It is his father. His midichlorian count was off the charts. Anakin IS the Force; everybody else is just using it. He's also literally a god now, he could snap his fingers and kill her and I wouldn't be mad.

[@wizardvrse7338]

People gotta stop using this midichlorian count as like a way of leveling his power. It gives “his power is over 9000!” vibes and Anakin isn’t Goku

[@Audienc4u]

it still bugs me that, though Anakin suffered as Vader.. Vader still did a lot of evil and brought much suffering to others. With the death of both Anakin and Vader (from saving Luke and killing Sidius) we are told Anakin/Vader is redeemed.. I don't see a quick death bed repentance truly turning Vader back to the light, back to Anakin. Anakin himself wasn't fully in the light, not after the various traumas that lead him down the path to becoming Vader. Basically, I don't see Anakin/Vader (at his death) as having found balance in the Force. Maybe after his death, sure.. but why he gets to be the new Star Wars Force deity I do not know.

[@randy3252]

@@Audienc4uit was not becausw he was in the light whatsoever. infact being the chosen one does have some vip abilities i think it was explained in the novels that anakin became a force ghost only through sheer will power

[@alexandria2243]

It made me think of this: It makes sense for Anakin to be a sort of incarnation of the Force and therefore in some sense to be the Force. I mean, in the case of real world belief/theologies you have the concept of God the father and the son being the same in power and of one being, and obviously Anakin as a character was written to follow a sort of messiah pattern, Force is his father, chosen one, brings balance, and so on. My point being that it makes sense that Anakin could be so powerful or literally be the Force is some sense.

[@ihaveacar]

@@l_Pleiades_l incorrect

[@jameskent5347]

I love this channels hot takes on Star Wars

[@Ryokai395]

I was never happier to get spoiled. xD I grew up with Anakin being the main char to me and seing hes coming back makes me sooo happy. And i will still watch the series tho. :)

[@aodhhanswtor7252]

In my opinion, you're absolutely correct. Anakin now guards the power. He has all of the access and leverage. Potential is one thing but you must also consider position, and his position is a force multiplier within the force. Within the arena on Mortis, Anakin was temporarily provided the father's position and passed the test. Not just defeating the Son and the Daughter, but bending them to his will. What we don't know is the limitations of this position. As we can see, outside of the WBW, Anakin is a force ghost. There may also be physical and cosmic rules mere mortals cannot understand limiting what Anakin can interfere in.

[@dylangarcia3898]

I wonder how abeloth would react to Mortis gods deaths , would she have a Vader style break down considering she did love them at one point or would she be happy since they imprisoned her ,did she have a reaction in legends when learning that they had died, also if Anakin is replacing the father, and Ashoka is replacing the daughter , then who is going to be the next Son

[@robertbarber1198]

She tried to recreate them

[@Greengrasss-s3v]

Obviously jar jar is the son

[@asian123205]

More like both!

[@asian123205]

lol@@Greengrasss-s3v

[@dylangarcia3898]

@@Greengrasss-s3v personally I think Ezra is going to be the next Son considering he has come into contact with the Dark side before

[@Superlube100]

A good theory that Anakin could be the person to hold her here’s why. Anakin being both light and dark and Ashoka being the middle who’s still alive to fend off a living being. Could Ashoka continue her training with Anakin, possibly. I imagine if all this comes to light Anakin’s story is not done here, fingers crossed Luke sees Anakin once more, purely for nostalgia and will hit many of our hearts. The extended theory, we have many legends who were one with the light and dark side but the most common name comes to mind, revan/bastila. What if one of these 2 were actually teaching Anakin or if Anakin was channeling his force energy to find info on their abilities in both light and dark side to aid being the god of the force essentially. To me this would be the best way we can canonise some past legends and could give us a far more exciting story than the sequel BS. As a near immortal, we need to look at dark side more, so that’s gonna be going back to palpatines teachings of darth Plagious and possible others, i believe its been mentioned that plagious was seeking knowledge from a past legend vitiate. Who knows, i imagine KK won’t like Anakin is now the God so Abaloth might be dulled down so much ashoka can remove her head and show over, rey continues to be a skywalker.

[@ДмитрийРубежов-э1б]

Technically The Answer To The Question In The Start Of The Video Is The Amount/The Count Of Medichlorians + Hard Work. [Hard Work Is Important + The Amount/The Count Of Medichlorians Is How High Potential You Can Possibly Achieve With You're Hard Work + The Higher You're Force Potential With Medichlorian Count The Higher You're Adaptation And Speed Of Learning + It Can Be Multiplied With Next Generations (Luke Learnes Faster Then His Father And That's Why Full Potential Legends Luke Is Stronger Then Full Potential Anakin)]

[@narniaphuket]

anakin took on the father's powers when he passed. he's essentially a god, plus the most force concentrated being to likely ever exist

[@giantsdudeful]

@@narniaphuket way to make up things in your own head cannon.

[@Gtrr2-w2u]

Abeloth: bathed in a bath to become force sensitive anakin: born by the force itself

[@zairman]

God I hope we get Abeloth. I want to see her do all the things mentioned here. I want her to be menacing and scary like Sauron from LOTR. I really hope they are able to pull it off and the next sequel trilogy will be about her return.

[@Emmanuyael]

You mean Sidious is some sort of Sauron, Abeloth should be something more... well... more :)) ... say like Morgoth

[@mrconfusion87]

​@@EmmanuyaelYup! Any LOTR nerd knows Sauron started out as Morgoth's servant!

[@hughsahlstrom951]

I heard that full potential Anakin is 200% of Sidious, and Vader is about 80% of Sidious. Considering that would make him twice as powerful, Sidious using those estimates, even if that's not as powerful as godlike, twice that of Sidious would me phenomenonal. Godlike like Abeloth is unimaginable or, as Sidious said, unlimited power. Or for god infinite power. That power in force would be awe. Alse keep in my Plaguis being able to create Anakin through his Midichlorian research. Plaguis and Sidious and Yoda really were all in a league of their own in terms of force power and knowledge. Addition: I see three tiers: 1. ROTS Anakin (not as powerful as Sidious.) 2. Full potential Anakin (200% of Sidious) 3. Chosen One (300% plus, more powerful than Yoda and Sidious combined, almost godlike). Could be much, much more. Just my opinion.

[@Pravhkas]

What if; We get Abeloth as the villain to be, and Luke being tasked with bringing her down. After recieving training from his Father. Anakin

[@hughsahlstrom951]

I see three tiers: 1. ROTS Anakin (not as powerful as Sidious.) 2. Full potential Anakin (200% of Sidious) 3. Chosen One (300% plus, more powerful than Yoda and Sidious combined, almost godlike). Could be much, much more. Just my opinion.

[@newhybrid101]

Yes and No Anakins potential in the mortal realm was said to have been equal to or slightly less than Luke Skywalker according to George Lucas and the EP6 novel However being the Chosen One Anakin true potential goes beyond the mortal realm. He has a unique connection to the planet Mortis and he drew enough power from it to potentially replace the Father And in Disney Canon according to a novel his spirit was powerful enough to save Grandmaster Luke Skywalker from evil spirits. That potential we always thought about,it was never about the mortal realm. If he had stayed alive and in the normal galaxy he would have NEVER been stronger than Prime Luke Skywalker. He can however channel the entirety of the Force when in higher realms due to his unique connection to the Force. Luke wouldn't be able to draw the true power of Mortis like Anakin did

[@lsodiumoverdosel]

I feel he had more regardless, but he lost a lot on Mustafar. Just from the less body less force bs mediclorians brought into the mix

[@newhybrid101]

​​​@@lsodiumoverdoselThats not whats stated though. I get it but we cant say how we feel since Lucas said its the same potential and Vader in the novel mused Luke may even PERHAPS have more potential than ANAKIN HAD,which implies him talking about Anakins full body Anakin was always meant to transcend mortality,THATS his true potential Force power being increased or decreased due to location has always been a thing,Anakin simply has the access to higher realms of power. It makes sense,if he is a manifestation of the Force he can only achieve his true potential by transcending his mortal coil. But even Darth Caedus was stated as having more potential than anyone else normally,which shows that Anakins midiclorian count isn't unreachable

[@lsodiumoverdosel]

@@newhybrid101 when did he say this? In the 90s??

[@newhybrid101]

​@@lsodiumoverdoselLucas saying Luke and Anakin have the same potential was in 2005. The novel i dont remember when it was released.

[@lsodiumoverdosel]

@lasthybrid786 a lot has been changed since then.

[@majikkskates9084]

You are creating the best Star Wars lore in my head holy duck

[@BenAri18]

Anakin on mortis controlled both the dark side and light side of the force and at full potential is stated to be more powerful than The Father who imprisoned Abeloth stated where the father says (only the chosen one could control both my children) so Anakin at FP would kill Abeloth

[@GREENHOUSE_LIGHTSHOW]

It took all 3 celestials to imprison her. Also it's quite a plot hole since full potential Anakin is stated to be at least twice as powerful as Darth Sidious whom is not even close to Abeloth nor The Father. Abeloth is 12 times more powerful than Grand Master Luke and it took Luke and the extremely powerful Darth Krayt to kill only an avatar of Abeloth as theoretically only the dagger is capable of actually killing her for good.

[@BenAri18]

@@GREENHOUSE_LIGHTSHOW "Only the chosen one could tame both my children" by The Father is proof Anakin beats The Father

[@GREENHOUSE_LIGHTSHOW]

@@BenAri18 and The Father had been keeping the peace between his children for an indeterminate amount of time.

[@BenAri18]

@@GREENHOUSE_LIGHTSHOW that's irrelevant as I just told you an official quote from the episode stating anakin could only control the mortis gods as the father wasn't strong enough

[@GREENHOUSE_LIGHTSHOW]

@@BenAri18 you misinterpreted the quote.

[@Ave_Christus_Rex3777]

4:30 "Force healing is not a common ability nor is it an easy one to use" Ray: But the Force is female

[@Tom.morals]

Would be crazy if in a confrontation woth Anakin, reading his thoughts, she chose to take the form of Padme or some crazy shit.

[@moeshawky4002]

The fact that Abeloth is still corporeal means she's defeatable, from the other videos I assumed that she was like the force priestesses without physical form.

[@asian123205]

ok I need that mortal combat music on, everyone'd XD Anakin VS Abeloth! FIGHT! LOL

[@Pitraptor]

I doubt it matters to make comparisons. The force has it's own rules, especially for those who become one with the force. I don't think the force would allow him to act in a direct manner, though it does sometimes make exceptions to it's own rules if things are dire enough. He's going to act through others by better preparing them as does tend to happen a lot throughout star wars history.

[@marciofelipejustino2563]

I WISH ANAKIN HAD USED RED LIGHTING

[@corey57255]

4:21 the force healing in rise of skywalker was personally my least favorite thing of all the sequels. I don’t care if it’s (sort-of) “established”. It makes no sense for Rey to just “figure it out”. The way she was portrayed as simply being so powerful that she just figured all the force techniques out by trying and wanting it enough is just… ugh. Jedi trained for years even decades or centuries to master this or that technique. But Rey just discovers them because she needs to for the story to work. Blegh

[@robertbarber1198]

I’m curious as to when they will establish the true power of anakin in a meaningful way this battle would be the best ever done. The problem is that there’s no concrete feats for anakin yet so we can’t use speculation to say he would win.

[@asian123205]

They better! 😡😡😡😡

[@GGBlaster]

True, speculation means nothing. However, we should also consider the plot writing in such a hypothetical scenario. This is just one reason why I don’t support the Abeloth on Peridea theory: if she is so powerful, no living person on Peridea or in the Galaxy will stand a chance at stopping her, not without some major plot contrivances. So that’d leave the Chosen One as the only one potentially capable of defeating Abeloth. And if he couldn’t beat her, then it’s game over for the Galaxy. To some sequel haters, that might not be a bad gig. But there’s just no beating a creature like Abeloth if she’s the power ceiling in Star Wars. And I don’t think that’s healthy for the canon, nor very conducive to strong story writing.

[@christopherwalker4585]

In the stories of the lost tribe where Abeloth is spoken of she undertook mental combat with the king of the lost tribe of the sith. The sith king even though he died at her hand was able to inflict both severe mental and physical pain when they engaged in phychic combat qfter thwir festivals.

[@johnnyhorton2508]

Luke may not have Achieved his Fathers Full Potential Because he hadn't Learned to Use Both the Light and Darksides of the Force as one

[@StopPanakinAnakin]

Exactly what I was thinking! Theres no way Luke is even close to Anakin in their prime.

[@johnnyhorton2508]

@@StopPanakinAnakin Ashame we never got to see Luke do what his Father has Done in the Ahsoka Series Luke though Has More Limitations then his Father does Because he was Not The Chosen one Outright

[@AKAI2002]

it's always fun to hear 'beloved' and 'Abeloth' in the same sentence

[@ysoworthy3467]

When in doubt, Anakin will always have plot armor on his side

[@robinbanks1993]

Why Full Potential Abeloth would Embarrass Anakin: He's already dead. Jokes aside, the presumptions around power levels that are rooted in the hierarchy of the celestial ones is missing an axis. daughter / son = Light / dark and also father / mother = Balance / Chaos so there are alot of speculations in this video where op just straight up says "anakin is fully balanced and balance always wins." which is a speculation about the light dark axis, unfounded and pretty weak grounds to make a case on, especially considering we already know the only thing that can kill abeloth is the dagger of mortis...and here i would draw a comparison to anakin if he werent already dead lol. While abeloth is alive, they are still confined to the maw and anakin in the wbw, so really theyll have to battle through their agents (Ahsoka Daughter // Baylon Son) in real space.

[@matt.oconnor]

I think Anakin used Oneness once in legends so that would help immensely. I do think Abeloths telepathy powers would screw with Anakins mind which has been his key weakness in and out of canon. He’s too loose. Luke’s will has always been (besides RJs bs) impossible to break which makes him so much more impressive when he was GM. I dunno, the chosen one is great lore and has built an awesome mythos but I still believe Luke Skywalker is without a doubt the greatest Jedi and always has the highest ceiling.

[@YewNayVerse]

14:45 🤔 nah, according to the words of obi wan, Jedi get stronger after death. Full potential Anakin in life is therefore much weaker than he is in death. In fact in death he may be stronger than you could possibly imagine. In this way legends and cannon do not conflict on this note, Luke may become similarly powerful in death which would bring this full circle.

[@Neutrality10]

It’s far too early to make such an extreme statement that current Anakin would EMBARRASS Abeloth. If she does show up, for all we know Disney could easily retcon some or all of Abeloth’s abilities to make her above or at least on par with Anakin. Also frankly, I find Abeloth way more interesting as a character and would be far more interesting if even Anakin couldn’t defeat her on his own.

[@mrconfusion87]

Abeloth should be played by Eva Green if they ever bring her character on...

[@juanlaise1059]

Abeloth should be above Anakin's FP in Legends aswell. Luke, who had the same potential as Anakin, couldn't defeat her on his own.

[@Job_editzz]

@@juanlaise1059isn’t it stated that anakin would smoke luka both at full power?

[@juanlaise1059]

@@Job_editzz Nope. According to George Lucas, Lukw became what Anakin would have been and they both had the same potential.

[@AnemoiA_eternal]

it seems like after Anakin died he basically became a godlike deity being able to control the world between worlds and essentiall watch over the universe

[@zenith110]

Power scaling on this level kind of makes me wonder what the point of it all is

[@lsodiumoverdosel]

Sadly thats why the movies never feature such power, cause it makes people feel this way. I on the other hand want to see it. The force used in all its power. Not just a push or choke with the occasional lightning.

[@squall5742]

Right now Anakin is the keeper of the world between worlds, is the embodiment of the of force itself as he can access both light, dark and balance with no issue at all. If u are a die hard fan you know about the immense and almost absolute power of the priestess of the force, I'd I compare their abilities to Anakin's new ones Anakin outclass them by fr, so yes he would dominate everything rn. He became one with the force, I think that he is close to omnipotent in the spiritual force way but choose not to act on the physical force

[@KraNisOG]

We should probably assume that Anakin is going to search for another son, ans daughter, and then fight her. Knowing Disney, we'll probably have Anakin fight her alone, and lose to collect said light and dark side to then fight her.

[@dehaaktas7113]

after ahsoka sees anakin : somehow anakin returned anakin: no ı am a ghost

[@thalmoragent9344]

I dunno, depends. Anakin in death has likely ascended to Godhood, given his abilities as a Force Ghost surpasses anything we've ever seen so far. So, if Anakin/The Chosen One has become a Celestial in death, (no, I don't mean he took the Father's place) then him VS Abeloth in the World Between Worlds may be the Cosmic Battle that decides Abeloth's fate.

[@ericjustice7661]

Anakin takes the role of the Father Ahsoka takes the role of the Daughter (she was directly involved with her on Mortis and now Morai constantly follows her. Also, the daughters statue is broken when Ahsoka finds them) The only question left is who will take the role of the son?

[@Bsmith806]

Easy way to think about it: If Luke can do it, so can Anakin

[@jeremiahdew9422]

For how powerful Anakin has become, to me it raises the question on if his power would be enough to revert Abeloth back to her pre-twisted form. Back to normal.

[@itashious]

If they ever do a live action abeloth I think Jessica chastain should be the one to do it. She’s a really great actress and I’d love to see how she’s able to showcase a wide range of acting personalities as an insane manipulative Eldllich god. Plus I’m pretty sure we’ve seen her with Snow White skin and blonde hair and eyebrows before in the X-men movie just as sunken eyes and a 180° razor sharp smile to her and she’s good to go

[@jpacheco290]

I love this, but I really think Balin is looking for the fountain to become cold, dark side and that this moment her

[@jpacheco290]

I fully agree with this, especially since I think that Anakin became the new father that’s why he’s in the world between world

[@615outeast8]

To me it's sounding like abeloth is too freaking powerful, too even bring on TV, she needs her own movie as the main villain !!!

[@mclovin700]

I was fine throughout the whole video until you said, he made peace with Lord Vader, which brought down tears of joy😢❤

[@DaG.O.A.T.]

I myself think Anakin couldn't beat Abeloth....i call it a tie

[@asian123205]

Its in the novel or comic. I mean Abeloth was 12times powerful than Luke until Luke unleashed his ultimate weapon able to defeat her, but not Killing her. Also other jedi and sith who help Luke to fight against her!

[@DaG.O.A.T.]

@@asian123205 what was his ultimate weapon

[@asian123205]

@@DaG.O.A.T. My apologies. I heard its called "True oneness" meaning the Force powers are the ability to achieve a state of oneness with the Force and separating his mind from his physical body. Luke combined these abilities, becoming a conduit of the Force itself, which allowed him to temporarily destroy her while fending off a treacherous Darth Krayt.

[@DaG.O.A.T.]

@@asian123205 I wouldn't say temporarily destroyed her ...she can't be destroyed

[@emafex]

Almost gave up hope that Anakin would be back and remind everyone that he was a part of a grand plan created by the force. I'm taking this way too seriously, but I'm a nerd and it's cool as hell.

[@jeskerjames3260]

It would be a beautiful moment if Anakin becomes the new Father, Ahsoka the new Daughter, and a canon version of Starkiller as the new Son and they combine their power to defeat Abeloth.

[@bobbycoltrane7552]

It seems that Anakin now has power and the level of ability on par with the Jedi and Sith of Legends. While in the Disney Star Wars all four seasons have had their legs pulled from under them especially Luke Skywalker.

[@rojaws1183]

Order vs chaos. Both have what can defeat their opponent. A good writer could make a entertaining fight of it. Abeloth is insane and heartbroken but Anakin might be able to talk some sense in her kind of like how Luke did to Vader.

[@ericblue5436]

This is why we need a movie or maybe even a trilogy surrounding Abeloth.

[@mrconfusion87]

That is what the Sequel Trilogy should have been!

[@FierceDeityGoku]

This is awesome but I have one burning question that may be stupid to ask: Could Abeloth take on Darth Nihilus? It may not even be close but it would be fun to see.

[@jacorienrobinson4555]

No nihilis is really weak compared to her revan will have a better chance

[@skylarvandevander8405]

If anyone was paying attention, ashoka died. And Anakin called her to where he was which we see completely manipulate reality and after she comes back. One thing not mentioned was, if you had a connection to the force you could hear them clashing lightsabers which in itself was the force. I think Anakin has reached a level of complete oneness with the force or is on that road, there may be something that comes later on to explain this.

[@mortemgloria3162]

Id love to see Baylan find Abeloth act as her servant and be betrayed, then Ashoka, Baylan, Shin, Sabine Ezra and Luke vs abeloth. Realising they cant beat her luke and Ahsoka drag her into the world between worlds where Anakin would then dismantle her in a semi-brief engagement. Like the Abeloth "Who are you!!" Anakin "I am the force"

[@wayne7386]

I love the longer videos!!

[@fdlman93092]

Anakins power is nothing compared to a strong, diverse, female character.

[@8bitflea]

😂

[@RedonkulousCaptious]

The level of control and power was conveyed to me through the art. Aboleth was twisted into a literal monster by the forces she engaged. Remember: that's a human woman under all that mutation, not an alien. Anakin is crushing entire armies without using extensive flashy powers, and he looks like he had a deep goth makeover and needs a nap. One lost control and is a tool for the darkside, and the other has the darkside in a strangle hold doing what he wants with it.

[@rickiefitness]

I have to wonder in the recent light of Anakin in the show, if Vader could at this point be viewed as a facade created by Anakin to play along with Palpatine, if Anakin was at this point this powerful, I would assume he knew of Lukes existence and may perhaps used this facade of Vader to train him? I also think at this point that although Vader died, Anakin is well alive still being as possibly powerful as he may be.

[@chrisnash2154]

I think there should be a movie to address this!

[@manzanogianni4935]

Anakin has become the unexplainable now. Abeloth being a match would be questionable based on what was already presented to us in this video. We are only scratching the surface when trying to understand what Anakin has become. Any comparisons to Legend would only be “true” from a certain point of view so let’s respectfully leave Luke Skywalker out of this equation.

[@BuiltPerfect]

Man i hope we get to see anakin show up at the 11th hour like right as abeloth is about to win he shows up and just complete destroys her and we finally get to see what had been hinted at for yrs the limitless power of the chosen one on screen.

[@flyingscotsman9657]

That is really what I want to see - watch Abeloth stamp Ahsoka and maybe Luke as well but then the camera panning around to show Anakin standing there before he starts going to town on her

[@SumitMagar-067]

Abeloth can easily defeat anakin if she had SAND😂

[@Dark_Prince089]

notice how the force abilities described that the Disney Trilogy had Rey using were supposed to be "highly advanced and difficult to use" yet more evidence of her Mary Sueness.

[@orcaaugust05]

Hello there

[@LodyDude]

I love your videos! Thank you!

[@YayoHernandez-b1j]

and lastly full potential anakin skywalker is the strongest most powerful force user ever of all time in history surpassing every other jedi sith and the father and abeloth together

[@godslayer8894]

Yeah no that's just wanking at that point

[@robertbarber1198]

Wrong

[@christian975]

Not really still to this day no jedi has a higher force mid count then him which is 27000

[@YayoHernandez-b1j]

@ yes they do. Anakin Skywalker is rare, unique, special, and one of a kind OK.

[@P.ilhaformosatherium]

Anakin: It's over Abeloth i have the high ground

[@Ollen1982]

Anakin isn’t a Jedi master, he is the master of the force. Abeloth is his counter. Chaos. They are the balance of the universe. One is for balance and the other is to push things off balance.

[@micahhilles]

You said that force healing is difficult despite what video games would have us believe, but i think you meant that it was difficult despite what the sequel trilogy would have us believe

[@user-William83]

I think the Anakin Skywalker from the Ahsoka show would have Abeloth running scared...

[@laithamekir5778]

I think everyone is looking at Anakin as taking Ahsoka from world to world in the world between worlds. But Anakin said she had taken them to the place. I believe it is the daughter who allowed Ahsoka to do so. Her spirit so closely bonded it makes sense that she doesnt know her full potential? Could you imagine a Luke and Ahsoka child? That kid would be the force incarnet.

[@kevinhuber3886]

awesomeness thank you

[@piotrkijak1774]

Imagine if we learn that first time. Anakin beaten her and then the battle vs Luke was personal