Why FULL Potential Anakin Would EMBARRASS Abeloth - Star Wars Explained

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@redbirb1571
@redbirb1571 8 ай бұрын
Abeloth feared death. Thats how she became Abeloth in the first place. Anakin literally and casually decided to revive himself into a complete other dimension just to defend something almost unreachable.
@jamesirons963
@jamesirons963 2 ай бұрын
Most likely obi wan taught Vader how to transcend after dying on the Death Star, and that’s how he IS a force ghost now… But he still has the same rules and abilities as yoda in the last Jedi, therefore he is NOT an all powerful celestial but a Jedi trapped in his own full potential GHOST essence until his time is done in this realm.. With that being said, I can’t wait for this epic showdown! #TeamAbeloth!
@Dropsey818
@Dropsey818 2 ай бұрын
@@jamesirons963 😂😂😂
@johndomaleczny8447
@johndomaleczny8447 8 ай бұрын
Anakin may be the embodiment of all 3, not just the father
@newhybrid101
@newhybrid101 8 ай бұрын
He is LESS than the Father,lets not overhype him. The Father was also manifestion of the Force just like Anakin,only The Father was celestial There is literally no scenario where Anakin surpasses the Father. The writers even said The Father is stronger than Mortis Anakin Whatever way Anakin embodies the Force the Father does by default to a greater degree. He was only seen as the next best solution when the Father was dying.
@kingofantigua89
@kingofantigua89 8 ай бұрын
@@newhybrid101and when exactly did the writers say this?? Because I can’t find that anywhere fam
@josiahkeroff9965
@josiahkeroff9965 8 ай бұрын
Or potentially the force itself.
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 8 ай бұрын
​@@newhybrid101 Well, Anakin in life, yeah. But Anakin has essentially ascended to Godhood in death, given no other force ghost has ever reached this level of interaction nearly as much
@No.1GodzillaGlazer
@No.1GodzillaGlazer 8 ай бұрын
@@newhybrid101 No lol, FP Anakin would be above the Father lmao
@alphadios2003
@alphadios2003 8 ай бұрын
Due to the fact that Legends was cancelled before Abeloth's arc was resolved, we can conclude the Abeloth actually destroyed the Legends timeline, while being incarnated as her Real life Avatar called Kathleen Kennedy. This is a Z3 Class Apocalypse How!
@bradenjohn2671
@bradenjohn2671 3 ай бұрын
lmao, you have no girlfriend
@dendrien
@dendrien 3 ай бұрын
lmao nor do you.@@bradenjohn2671
@blooddrawer
@blooddrawer 3 ай бұрын
i'd accept that over it being non cannon
@alphadios2003
@alphadios2003 3 ай бұрын
@@bradenjohn2671 ahem.... how so...
@zedbruh7212
@zedbruh7212 3 ай бұрын
It all adds up
@Viper72
@Viper72 8 ай бұрын
As you mentioned in a previous video my concern is not if he is powerful enough.. but rather if he can utilize this power in the real world rather than just be a force ghost. I love Anakin’s character and Hayden’s redeemed portrayal of him. I hope they can continue to build upon it and remind everyone who the true hero of all of Star Wars actually is. I believe Hayden deserves this and so do we as fans.
@robertphillips213
@robertphillips213 8 ай бұрын
Sometimes the hero is not the one who defeats the villain themselves, only enable another to do so: in this case, Ahsoka is the hero who ensures Anakin can take on Abeloth.
@elfather2045
@elfather2045 8 ай бұрын
We literally have seen force ghost interact with the physical world many times, even Anakin much later in the timeline fight with many intangible beings to save Luke from death, so yeah they obviously can utilize theirs powers in the real world.
@logandelaharpe6362
@logandelaharpe6362 8 ай бұрын
Yoda burning a book
@patdawg1980
@patdawg1980 7 ай бұрын
@@robertphillips213 ahsoka has nothing to do with it
@adrianaslund8605
@adrianaslund8605 3 ай бұрын
That's exactly what I think. He might have control over his plane of existence but that doesn't translate to the outside world. I think that It's more likely that he would be locked out of being to able to fight Abeloth and serve more as a guide to the heroes.
@ninjaman7123
@ninjaman7123 8 ай бұрын
For those confused, hes talking about a hypothetical Anakin from CANON, not Legends. In Legends, Luke achieved Anakin's potential and was 12x weaker than Abeloth
@jamesirons963
@jamesirons963 8 ай бұрын
Correct technically there is NO evidence of CANNON ABELOTH! Or her power level, the only thing we have to go off of is legends… And technically there is NO way of knowing how powerful anakin is at this point either… However legends ABELOTH? Anakin’s going to need some help! Even with the edge, (the mortis blade) up his sleeve, there’s NO guarantee it would work… However I think it would be hilarious if abeloth kept using all her crazy powers on force ghost anakin, and each time he dies a horrible death… he just reappears taunting abeloth to keep her focused while Ashoka gets the mortis blade for him to use against her..
@KraNisOG
@KraNisOG 8 ай бұрын
Luke never obtained Anakin's level, which would at the very least be twice as powerful ad Luke as Anakin's Midi-count was twice that side, but full-potential Anakin would be stronger as well since he isn't bound to once side. He is in balance.
@ninjaman7123
@ninjaman7123 8 ай бұрын
@@KraNisOG George Lucas HIMSELF said Luke achieved Anakin's potential and was 12x weaker than Abeloth. You can't argue with the creator himself. You pulled that ''twice as powerful'' from your ass. Stop lying.
@zanewaddoups3653
@zanewaddoups3653 8 ай бұрын
I love where this is going! And I'd love too see the mortis theory and all of the rest brought together! This all intrigues me!
@eskanda3434
@eskanda3434 8 ай бұрын
The 12x weaker line was not Luke being 12x weaker in the force it was that abeleoth physical strength was that much stronger then him big difference
@Sifu-Myers
@Sifu-Myers 8 ай бұрын
I'm glad Anakin is finally getting the treatment he deserved it always felt he got cheated of showing what we could have seen. I get why but it's good he's living up to what his role is meant to be.
@dendrien
@dendrien 3 ай бұрын
okey. could you elaborate on what you meant by this? Did Lucas made him into a failoure in the first place? or did Disney? im pretty sure the movies was clear about his failoure was his own doing.
@albertlamar5938
@albertlamar5938 8 ай бұрын
Hayden looked so awesome in Ahsoka, I would be happen with a season of him adventuring with Ahsoka in an alternate reality, via the World Between Worlds. We could have great stories without worrying about the sequel continuity.
@RK-ck6pl
@RK-ck6pl 8 ай бұрын
Please Star Wars gods don't let this happen..
@Futura2500
@Futura2500 8 ай бұрын
Ahsoka second season is in doubt
@vegasdavis5404
@vegasdavis5404 8 ай бұрын
What a awesome idea
@nezarecdiscipleofthewitnes3823
@nezarecdiscipleofthewitnes3823 8 ай бұрын
​@@Futura2500the finale was titled as "season" finale not "series"... we're getting a second season
@davidfebreeze428
@davidfebreeze428 8 ай бұрын
So you want a bad fannfiction series on a massive budget to fuck up this franchise even more?😂
@teddykazandjiev
@teddykazandjiev 8 ай бұрын
I think this is a great theory and it would explain why Anakin( or Ahsoka) didn't bother with the First Order and Palpatine. At that point Anakin was so far beyond Palpatine that he didn't even bother. He concerned himself with far greater forces that could bring cataclysmic events to pass.
@Yokai_Yuri
@Yokai_Yuri 8 ай бұрын
That is a HUGE maybe. Even force itself was afraid or despised Abeloth while prime Anakin could be considered " the force itself"
@robertbarber1198
@robertbarber1198 8 ай бұрын
He can’t beat her at all it’s just foolish speculation her power is far too much Luke only fought an avatar of her.
@ajthegreat1826
@ajthegreat1826 8 ай бұрын
If the force is afraid of her why doesn’t it just take away her power s because all her powers are from the force
@robertbarber1198
@robertbarber1198 8 ай бұрын
@@ajthegreat1826likely unable to do so
@newhybrid101
@newhybrid101 8 ай бұрын
He isnt the Force,he is just a human manifestation of the Force who had the potential to ascend above the mortal realm Why do people wank Anakin so much?
@poppadnice52
@poppadnice52 8 ай бұрын
​@@ajthegreat1826 Because she is the anti force she is everything that the force itself does not embody She uses her powers in way that the force cannot
@KarlOlofsson
@KarlOlofsson 8 ай бұрын
Funny how the Sith ended up restoring the balance by creating Anakin, rather than make him take over with the dark side. Says something about the force and how much you can bend it to your own will.
@tommoore2012
@tommoore2012 8 ай бұрын
It’s similar to the lore of The Lord of the Rings. Eru told Melkor that it doesn’t matter what choice or action he takes because it’s all a part of his plan anyway.
@KarlOlofsson
@KarlOlofsson 8 ай бұрын
@@tommoore2012 it's also funny how humans always think about balance as something nice. But it's actually a balance between nice things and shitty things (what is what depending on perspective) lol.
@Paal2005
@Paal2005 7 ай бұрын
The force works in mysterious ways
@KarlOlofsson
@KarlOlofsson 7 ай бұрын
@@Paal2005 isn't that the asshole that a lot of people on Earth believe in? 😆
@BrianEthridge-wg6ko
@BrianEthridge-wg6ko 6 ай бұрын
Yes, the living force sure sticks it to you when you're the dark side because it doesn't like getting bent and forced to do what it does because it's the living entity it rebounds and rebels!! Good point
@Rango318
@Rango318 8 ай бұрын
"Even masters of force healing have difficulty healing wounds and cannot do it perfectly" Rey: Hold my plot hole.
@Paul512
@Paul512 8 ай бұрын
Awful isn't it
@codyburgett7962
@codyburgett7962 8 ай бұрын
Luke killed abeloth, and anakin in his prime has been confirmed as more powerful than prime Luke skywalker
@jakealter5504
@jakealter5504 8 ай бұрын
Not in legends
@robertbarber1198
@robertbarber1198 8 ай бұрын
Let’s make something clear he killed an avatar of abeloth that’s number one. Second she’s 12 times more powerful than grandmaster Luke 12
@DaG.O.A.T.
@DaG.O.A.T. 8 ай бұрын
He didn't kill abeloth only weaken her for a time
@marceljohnson2215
@marceljohnson2215 8 ай бұрын
No one killed her. They sealed, they meaning he had help. Anakin at full potential still wouldn’t have more effective than Luke
@kookuclock
@kookuclock 8 ай бұрын
Grandmaster Luke Skywalker: Am I a joke to you?
@KazuyaVeranes
@KazuyaVeranes 7 ай бұрын
11:45 “We need to address the Bantha in the room.” I laughed probably more than I should’ve. 😂
@biglawngnome
@biglawngnome 8 ай бұрын
And even when he was on Mortis he was able to completely subdue the Son and Daughter in their beast forms. Pretty sure he was missing his hand already at that point too making him slightly weaker. Now thats completely whole again his strength would naturally increase in the force as weve seen. And even as vader with no arms or legs basically was able to pull back and almost stop a starship mid flight, impressive to say the least. So yeah she should be scared
@kalebclemons
@kalebclemons 8 ай бұрын
abeloth made them bow with only a thought, and they ran from their planet in fear. abeloth is on a different level
@davidortiz3094
@davidortiz3094 8 ай бұрын
​@@kalebclemonsAnakin wasn't even in his prime when he did this. Now he is. Control over the light & dark side. With all his knowledge, experience & skills, Anakin would do far better than Luke. He was literally created by the force. Luke wasn't.
@kalebclemons
@kalebclemons 8 ай бұрын
@@davidortiz3094 abeloth drank from a pure source of dark force power, and has all the knowledge of the past from the light side nexus as well. shes done feats that cannot be described. 3 mortis gods and dozens of black holes are used to imprison her. she cannot die, and has powers over the force, not discussed here, that no one else possesses. even if anakin were stronger than GM luke, hes not 12+ times stronger than he is. and what experiences could he have at his young age compared to a force being that has lived for thousands of years and can possess multiple bodies across the universe ? abeloth eats any force user alive. i dont think u are aware of what it took to actually beat abeloth back, not kill her, temporarily defeat her. shes still out there, capable of physical form. anakin is a human force ghost now. his "full potential" in this scenario, is an apparition that might not even be physical in world between worlds. abeloth has created her own pocket dimension and realm of her own. these power sets do not compare in the slightest
@Jeffthecreepyastafan
@Jeffthecreepyastafan 8 ай бұрын
Yet Luke thought the dagger of mortis most likely wouldn't kill abaloth and that she was a eternal entity.
@Theassertedkaos
@Theassertedkaos 8 ай бұрын
Anakin has 100k minichclorian count , he's children are half of that
@deo864
@deo864 8 ай бұрын
@@Theassertedkaos genetically that doesnt necessarily make sense( they likely inheireted a gene that codes for such high midiclorian count. Genetics isnt always and average of two end , rather a recessive or dominant gene expression. likely the high midiclorian count was fully inherited and George has said Luke is just as powerful in potential as anakin.
@gups4963
@gups4963 8 ай бұрын
@@Theassertedkaos Legends Luke went beyond Anakin and got lucky to re imprison abeloth
@kharnthebetrayer1575
@kharnthebetrayer1575 8 ай бұрын
@@gups4963didn’t it take Luke his full order and whatever sith where running around to stop her ?
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 8 ай бұрын
​@@Ausaris Well, wouldn't you get half the Midichlorians in the real world via genetics, or no?
@paulpritchard206
@paulpritchard206 8 ай бұрын
Hell yes!!!!!!!!!!! This what I have been wanting for a long time now a full potential Anakin Skywalker
@jssomewhere6740
@jssomewhere6740 8 ай бұрын
Ableoth, is the villain that Star Wars has been lacking. Thrawn has a expiration date. Even though they plan to make a movie with him as the antagonist. The true bad guy we have been lacking is one that will require light and dark to overcome.
@asian123205
@asian123205 8 ай бұрын
funny thing is that we want get to see Thrawn in the star war movie 6,7,8. LOL So i assuming he dead or something happen to him.
@jssomewhere6740
@jssomewhere6740 8 ай бұрын
@@asian123205 I think all the current series will lead up the Thrawn movie. I think it will be a stand alone. Due to the idea of him not existing in the sequels. So what is needed is what comes after the sequels. Those had almost no villain and really Thrawn is a lesser character. The franchise needs a new bad guy.
@asian123205
@asian123205 8 ай бұрын
@@jssomewhere6740 true...
@alsimmonshellspawn6021
@alsimmonshellspawn6021 8 ай бұрын
Dave filoni version of thrawn was poorly written watered down and generic
@mrconfusion87
@mrconfusion87 8 ай бұрын
The Sequel Trilogy would have been better had she been the MAIN VILLAIN instead!
@robertfugate2232
@robertfugate2232 8 ай бұрын
Whenever yall hear the term "Legends", in your mind does it just mean "Canon that Disney tried to do away with so technically it doest count, but it does"....or is it just me?
@MatthewSmith-ob6zl
@MatthewSmith-ob6zl 3 ай бұрын
I view the term “Legends” in SW as meaning: The TRUE StarWars.
@augury2699
@augury2699 Ай бұрын
@@MatthewSmith-ob6zl As soemone almost entirely new to the franchise and very much outside of the popular dicourse surrounding it, I very much enjoy the stories I hear from Legends more than what's available in current canon. Also Malgus is the GOAT any timeline without him is a failed one
@MatthewSmith-ob6zl
@MatthewSmith-ob6zl Ай бұрын
@@augury2699 Im telling you, the more stuff you read in any era, about any character, it’s better than anything in Disney canon. Yeah sad we won’t get anything with Malgus though….because Disney threw it all away for mediocre writing/development. Malgus would’ve been iconic in a show or movie
@augury2699
@augury2699 Ай бұрын
@@MatthewSmith-ob6zl The Old Republic was the greatest opportunity. Just the absolute height of Sith-Jedi conflict. The Mandalorian War, Revan. There is just so much to draw on there. Even Legends after the movie's events, with Luke's New Jedi Order had a chance. Tone it down of course, because the power creep was insane. But the Skywalker-Solo kids could've carried for a while, especially Jacen. Cade is pretty here and there for me but still another good one. Having Grandmaster Luke at least in the background would've been both a decent respect for old fans and a good write off, leave him on Mustafar for a while. Rey could've been worked in with Palpatine's clone revival from Legends and his Rule of Two slightly taking inspiration from Mara Jade and a bit of Maul's stories. But most importantly we should've gone back to see Malgus 'visit' the Jedi Temple.
@BeYera3
@BeYera3 8 ай бұрын
They way Anakin wielded his lightsaber was a delight to see. After seeing Ahsoka, Din Djarin-&-Bo Katan with the Darksaber and the entire Sequel trilogy, it's great to see how Anakin handles his blade, it was the Prequels all over, if not better.... His display of technique and effortless form shows he's on a completely different level than anyone else. And yes, I agree, Anakin as he is now would definitely dispatch Abeloth once and for all.
@dinandroelofsen-gb1js
@dinandroelofsen-gb1js Ай бұрын
Ye i think the same
@robioneknobe6916
@robioneknobe6916 8 ай бұрын
It would be very interesting and exciting to see an impossible powerhouse in the flesh go up against the ghost entity who IS the balance that the Force always knew about.
@JustLikeTheSimulations
@JustLikeTheSimulations 8 ай бұрын
Remember, we have absolutely no confirmation on Anakin playing the role of “Father”. All we know is he has some control of the world between worlds & that The Ones have influence on Peridia. I was shocked to see those statues, quite a few leaks from Ahsoka turned out to be true.
@magspy
@magspy 8 ай бұрын
Agreed i hate how they keep pushing this weird thing of anakin as father and ahsoka as daughter its weird. It is as simple as anakin showed up because its ahsoka.
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 8 ай бұрын
​@@magspy Facts. Anakin may be a Celestial now that he's dead, but definitely not Ahsoka
@BenAri18
@BenAri18 8 ай бұрын
I do find it annoying when fans make up their own canon, however this makes COMPLETE sense...The Father told Anakin the chosen one must replace him in keeping the force in balance...REPLACE being the keyword so would that not have confirmed this theory that Anakin is now the father, and him being a being created purely by the force would surely be him being the embodiment of the force and the balance, which is what The Father was... so its not really a theory its pretty much canon based on what we've been told
@juanlaise1059
@juanlaise1059 8 ай бұрын
​​@@BenAri18 He said that while Anakin was alive, and he said that he had to replace him to keep control of his children. Since they are both dead, no one needed to replace the Father. And again, to replace him, Anakin had to be alive, and he isn't. He did NOT replace the Father in any way.
@grantfuller6123
@grantfuller6123 5 ай бұрын
@@BenAri18pls stop talking lol the father is not the chosen one in star wars
@whiterock1865
@whiterock1865 8 ай бұрын
Hmmm what is forgotten is Anakin in shadow warrior was all three of the mortis gods and then some. He created realities and was both light and dark and in between
@BrianEthridge-wg6ko
@BrianEthridge-wg6ko 6 ай бұрын
I had no idea they brought Anakin back like this! This is so cool! The first thing good in the Star wars mythos in a long time
@LodyDude
@LodyDude 8 ай бұрын
I love your videos! Thank you!
@abdelali9279
@abdelali9279 8 ай бұрын
Man this Abaloth sounds like some kind of big raid boss where the idea is not fight it directly but go into and andventure to find the champion that will be able to defeat her, ngl I really like to see them take this path
@QuietStorm4546
@QuietStorm4546 8 ай бұрын
I believe that full potential Anakin would have the ability to defeat Aboloft but it won't be easy even for him. While it's true that it took both the Son and Daughter of Mortis working together to defeat Aboloft, and Anakin made both of them submit/bow on their knees to him. I still don't think Anakin will defeat Aboloft very easily. The fight between Anakin and Aboloft would be a true clash of Titans. It would take Anakin have the full unbridled might, power, and passion of a Sith while maintaining a clear head, and resolution of a Jedi to beat the "Queen of the stars". Even with all of that Anakin will have to find a way to mentally and emotionally unbalance Aboloft to the point where it disrupts her abilities much like Grand Master Luke, Ben, and Vestara did.
@-BL4CKOUT-
@-BL4CKOUT- 8 ай бұрын
What if; We get Abeloth as the villain to be, and Luke being tasked with bringing her down. After recieving training from his Father. Anakin
@dylangarcia3898
@dylangarcia3898 8 ай бұрын
I wonder how abeloth would react to Mortis gods deaths , would she have a Vader style break down considering she did love them at one point or would she be happy since they imprisoned her ,did she have a reaction in legends when learning that they had died, also if Anakin is replacing the father, and Ashoka is replacing the daughter , then who is going to be the next Son
@robertbarber1198
@robertbarber1198 8 ай бұрын
She tried to recreate them
@Definitely_a_human.110
@Definitely_a_human.110 8 ай бұрын
Obviously jar jar is the son
@asian123205
@asian123205 8 ай бұрын
More like both!
@asian123205
@asian123205 8 ай бұрын
lol@@Definitely_a_human.110
@dylangarcia3898
@dylangarcia3898 8 ай бұрын
@@Definitely_a_human.110 personally I think Ezra is going to be the next Son considering he has come into contact with the Dark side before
@wayne7386
@wayne7386 8 ай бұрын
I love the longer videos!!
@Superlube100
@Superlube100 8 ай бұрын
A good theory that Anakin could be the person to hold her here’s why. Anakin being both light and dark and Ashoka being the middle who’s still alive to fend off a living being. Could Ashoka continue her training with Anakin, possibly. I imagine if all this comes to light Anakin’s story is not done here, fingers crossed Luke sees Anakin once more, purely for nostalgia and will hit many of our hearts. The extended theory, we have many legends who were one with the light and dark side but the most common name comes to mind, revan/bastila. What if one of these 2 were actually teaching Anakin or if Anakin was channeling his force energy to find info on their abilities in both light and dark side to aid being the god of the force essentially. To me this would be the best way we can canonise some past legends and could give us a far more exciting story than the sequel BS. As a near immortal, we need to look at dark side more, so that’s gonna be going back to palpatines teachings of darth Plagious and possible others, i believe its been mentioned that plagious was seeking knowledge from a past legend vitiate. Who knows, i imagine KK won’t like Anakin is now the God so Abaloth might be dulled down so much ashoka can remove her head and show over, rey continues to be a skywalker.
@jameskent5347
@jameskent5347 8 ай бұрын
I love this channels hot takes on Star Wars
@marciofelipejustino2563
@marciofelipejustino2563 8 ай бұрын
I WISH ANAKIN HAD USED RED LIGHTING
@majikkskates9084
@majikkskates9084 8 ай бұрын
You are creating the best Star Wars lore in my head holy duck
@johnnyhorton2508
@johnnyhorton2508 8 ай бұрын
Luke may not have Achieved his Fathers Full Potential Because he hadn't Learned to Use Both the Light and Darksides of the Force as one
@StopPanakinAnakin
@StopPanakinAnakin 8 ай бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking! Theres no way Luke is even close to Anakin in their prime.
@johnnyhorton2508
@johnnyhorton2508 8 ай бұрын
@@StopPanakinAnakin Ashame we never got to see Luke do what his Father has Done in the Ahsoka Series Luke though Has More Limitations then his Father does Because he was Not The Chosen one Outright
@user-dd7hv2sx5b
@user-dd7hv2sx5b 8 ай бұрын
Technically The Answer To The Question In The Start Of The Video Is The Amount/The Count Of Medichlorians + Hard Work. [Hard Work Is Important + The Amount/The Count Of Medichlorians Is How High Potential You Can Possibly Achieve With You're Hard Work + The Higher You're Force Potential With Medichlorian Count The Higher You're Adaptation And Speed Of Learning + It Can Be Multiplied With Next Generations (Luke Learnes Faster Then His Father And That's Why Full Potential Legends Luke Is Stronger Then Full Potential Anakin)]
@BenAri18
@BenAri18 8 ай бұрын
Anakin on mortis controlled both the dark side and light side of the force and at full potential is stated to be more powerful than The Father who imprisoned Abeloth stated where the father says (only the chosen one could control both my children) so Anakin at FP would kill Abeloth
@GREENHOUSE_LIGHTSHOW
@GREENHOUSE_LIGHTSHOW 8 ай бұрын
It took all 3 celestials to imprison her. Also it's quite a plot hole since full potential Anakin is stated to be at least twice as powerful as Darth Sidious whom is not even close to Abeloth nor The Father. Abeloth is 12 times more powerful than Grand Master Luke and it took Luke and the extremely powerful Darth Krayt to kill only an avatar of Abeloth as theoretically only the dagger is capable of actually killing her for good.
@BenAri18
@BenAri18 8 ай бұрын
@@GREENHOUSE_LIGHTSHOW "Only the chosen one could tame both my children" by The Father is proof Anakin beats The Father
@GREENHOUSE_LIGHTSHOW
@GREENHOUSE_LIGHTSHOW 8 ай бұрын
@@BenAri18 and The Father had been keeping the peace between his children for an indeterminate amount of time.
@BenAri18
@BenAri18 8 ай бұрын
@@GREENHOUSE_LIGHTSHOW that's irrelevant as I just told you an official quote from the episode stating anakin could only control the mortis gods as the father wasn't strong enough
@GREENHOUSE_LIGHTSHOW
@GREENHOUSE_LIGHTSHOW 8 ай бұрын
@@BenAri18 you misinterpreted the quote.
@moeshawky4002
@moeshawky4002 8 ай бұрын
The fact that Abeloth is still corporeal means she's defeatable, from the other videos I assumed that she was like the force priestesses without physical form.
@Tom.morals
@Tom.morals 8 ай бұрын
Would be crazy if in a confrontation woth Anakin, reading his thoughts, she chose to take the form of Padme or some crazy shit.
@AKAI2002
@AKAI2002 8 ай бұрын
it's always fun to hear 'beloved' and 'Abeloth' in the same sentence
@asian123205
@asian123205 8 ай бұрын
ok I need that mortal combat music on, everyone'd XD Anakin VS Abeloth! FIGHT! LOL
@aodhhanswtor7252
@aodhhanswtor7252 8 ай бұрын
In my opinion, you're absolutely correct. Anakin now guards the power. He has all of the access and leverage. Potential is one thing but you must also consider position, and his position is a force multiplier within the force. Within the arena on Mortis, Anakin was temporarily provided the father's position and passed the test. Not just defeating the Son and the Daughter, but bending them to his will. What we don't know is the limitations of this position. As we can see, outside of the WBW, Anakin is a force ghost. There may also be physical and cosmic rules mere mortals cannot understand limiting what Anakin can interfere in.
@kingshadow8782
@kingshadow8782 8 ай бұрын
Awesome!
@Pitraptor
@Pitraptor 8 ай бұрын
I doubt it matters to make comparisons. The force has it's own rules, especially for those who become one with the force. I don't think the force would allow him to act in a direct manner, though it does sometimes make exceptions to it's own rules if things are dire enough. He's going to act through others by better preparing them as does tend to happen a lot throughout star wars history.
@tortureddesert3453
@tortureddesert3453 8 ай бұрын
Well put
@nusratzahan6397
@nusratzahan6397 8 ай бұрын
From where do you find these stories? Can you provide any link?
@ihaveacar
@ihaveacar 8 ай бұрын
Anakin was created by the Force. It is his father. His midichlorian count was off the charts. Anakin IS the Force; everybody else is just using it. He's also literally a god now, he could snap his fingers and kill her and I wouldn't be mad.
@wizardvrse7338
@wizardvrse7338 8 ай бұрын
People gotta stop using this midichlorian count as like a way of leveling his power. It gives “his power is over 9000!” vibes and Anakin isn’t Goku
@Audienc4u
@Audienc4u 8 ай бұрын
it still bugs me that, though Anakin suffered as Vader.. Vader still did a lot of evil and brought much suffering to others. With the death of both Anakin and Vader (from saving Luke and killing Sidius) we are told Anakin/Vader is redeemed.. I don't see a quick death bed repentance truly turning Vader back to the light, back to Anakin. Anakin himself wasn't fully in the light, not after the various traumas that lead him down the path to becoming Vader. Basically, I don't see Anakin/Vader (at his death) as having found balance in the Force. Maybe after his death, sure.. but why he gets to be the new Star Wars Force deity I do not know.
@randy3252
@randy3252 8 ай бұрын
@@Audienc4uit was not becausw he was in the light whatsoever. infact being the chosen one does have some vip abilities i think it was explained in the novels that anakin became a force ghost only through sheer will power
@alexandria2243
@alexandria2243 8 ай бұрын
It made me think of this: It makes sense for Anakin to be a sort of incarnation of the Force and therefore in some sense to be the Force. I mean, in the case of real world belief/theologies you have the concept of God the father and the son being the same in power and of one being, and obviously Anakin as a character was written to follow a sort of messiah pattern, Force is his father, chosen one, brings balance, and so on. My point being that it makes sense that Anakin could be so powerful or literally be the Force is some sense.
@ihaveacar
@ihaveacar 8 ай бұрын
@@X_Kaijuju_X incorrect
@christopherwalker4585
@christopherwalker4585 8 ай бұрын
In the stories of the lost tribe where Abeloth is spoken of she undertook mental combat with the king of the lost tribe of the sith. The sith king even though he died at her hand was able to inflict both severe mental and physical pain when they engaged in phychic combat qfter thwir festivals.
@subnautical3467
@subnautical3467 8 ай бұрын
When in doubt, Anakin will always have plot armor on his side
@zairman
@zairman 8 ай бұрын
God I hope we get Abeloth. I want to see her do all the things mentioned here. I want her to be menacing and scary like Sauron from LOTR. I really hope they are able to pull it off and the next sequel trilogy will be about her return.
@Emmanuyael
@Emmanuyael 8 ай бұрын
You mean Sidious is some sort of Sauron, Abeloth should be something more... well... more :)) ... say like Morgoth
@mrconfusion87
@mrconfusion87 8 ай бұрын
​@@EmmanuyaelYup! Any LOTR nerd knows Sauron started out as Morgoth's servant!
@allend1982
@allend1982 8 ай бұрын
Anakin isn’t a Jedi master, he is the master of the force. Abeloth is his counter. Chaos. They are the balance of the universe. One is for balance and the other is to push things off balance.
@dehaaktas7113
@dehaaktas7113 8 ай бұрын
after ahsoka sees anakin : somehow anakin returned anakin: no ı am a ghost
@laithamekir5778
@laithamekir5778 8 ай бұрын
I think everyone is looking at Anakin as taking Ahsoka from world to world in the world between worlds. But Anakin said she had taken them to the place. I believe it is the daughter who allowed Ahsoka to do so. Her spirit so closely bonded it makes sense that she doesnt know her full potential? Could you imagine a Luke and Ahsoka child? That kid would be the force incarnet.
@newhybrid101
@newhybrid101 8 ай бұрын
Yes and No Anakins potential in the mortal realm was said to have been equal to or slightly less than Luke Skywalker according to George Lucas and the EP6 novel However being the Chosen One Anakin true potential goes beyond the mortal realm. He has a unique connection to the planet Mortis and he drew enough power from it to potentially replace the Father And in Disney Canon according to a novel his spirit was powerful enough to save Grandmaster Luke Skywalker from evil spirits. That potential we always thought about,it was never about the mortal realm. If he had stayed alive and in the normal galaxy he would have NEVER been stronger than Prime Luke Skywalker. He can however channel the entirety of the Force when in higher realms due to his unique connection to the Force. Luke wouldn't be able to draw the true power of Mortis like Anakin did
@lsodiumoverdosel
@lsodiumoverdosel 8 ай бұрын
I feel he had more regardless, but he lost a lot on Mustafar. Just from the less body less force bs mediclorians brought into the mix
@newhybrid101
@newhybrid101 8 ай бұрын
​​​@@lsodiumoverdoselThats not whats stated though. I get it but we cant say how we feel since Lucas said its the same potential and Vader in the novel mused Luke may even PERHAPS have more potential than ANAKIN HAD,which implies him talking about Anakins full body Anakin was always meant to transcend mortality,THATS his true potential Force power being increased or decreased due to location has always been a thing,Anakin simply has the access to higher realms of power. It makes sense,if he is a manifestation of the Force he can only achieve his true potential by transcending his mortal coil. But even Darth Caedus was stated as having more potential than anyone else normally,which shows that Anakins midiclorian count isn't unreachable
@lsodiumoverdosel
@lsodiumoverdosel 8 ай бұрын
@@newhybrid101 when did he say this? In the 90s??
@newhybrid101
@newhybrid101 8 ай бұрын
​@@lsodiumoverdoselLucas saying Luke and Anakin have the same potential was in 2005. The novel i dont remember when it was released.
@lsodiumoverdosel
@lsodiumoverdosel 8 ай бұрын
@lasthybrid786 a lot has been changed since then.
@matt.oconnor
@matt.oconnor 8 ай бұрын
I think Anakin used Oneness once in legends so that would help immensely. I do think Abeloths telepathy powers would screw with Anakins mind which has been his key weakness in and out of canon. He’s too loose. Luke’s will has always been (besides RJs bs) impossible to break which makes him so much more impressive when he was GM. I dunno, the chosen one is great lore and has built an awesome mythos but I still believe Luke Skywalker is without a doubt the greatest Jedi and always has the highest ceiling.
@robinbanks1993
@robinbanks1993 8 ай бұрын
Why Full Potential Abeloth would Embarrass Anakin: He's already dead. Jokes aside, the presumptions around power levels that are rooted in the hierarchy of the celestial ones is missing an axis. daughter / son = Light / dark and also father / mother = Balance / Chaos so there are alot of speculations in this video where op just straight up says "anakin is fully balanced and balance always wins." which is a speculation about the light dark axis, unfounded and pretty weak grounds to make a case on, especially considering we already know the only thing that can kill abeloth is the dagger of mortis...and here i would draw a comparison to anakin if he werent already dead lol. While abeloth is alive, they are still confined to the maw and anakin in the wbw, so really theyll have to battle through their agents (Ahsoka Daughter // Baylon Son) in real space.
@XanthosAcanthus
@XanthosAcanthus 8 ай бұрын
What is that background song from?
@Neutrality10
@Neutrality10 8 ай бұрын
It’s far too early to make such an extreme statement that current Anakin would EMBARRASS Abeloth. If she does show up, for all we know Disney could easily retcon some or all of Abeloth’s abilities to make her above or at least on par with Anakin. Also frankly, I find Abeloth way more interesting as a character and would be far more interesting if even Anakin couldn’t defeat her on his own.
@mrconfusion87
@mrconfusion87 8 ай бұрын
Abeloth should be played by Eva Green if they ever bring her character on...
@juanlaise1059
@juanlaise1059 8 ай бұрын
Abeloth should be above Anakin's FP in Legends aswell. Luke, who had the same potential as Anakin, couldn't defeat her on his own.
@Job_editzz
@Job_editzz 7 ай бұрын
@@juanlaise1059isn’t it stated that anakin would smoke luka both at full power?
@juanlaise1059
@juanlaise1059 7 ай бұрын
@@Job_editzz Nope. According to George Lucas, Lukw became what Anakin would have been and they both had the same potential.
@robertbarber1198
@robertbarber1198 8 ай бұрын
I’m curious as to when they will establish the true power of anakin in a meaningful way this battle would be the best ever done. The problem is that there’s no concrete feats for anakin yet so we can’t use speculation to say he would win.
@asian123205
@asian123205 8 ай бұрын
They better! 😡😡😡😡
@GGBlaster
@GGBlaster 8 ай бұрын
True, speculation means nothing. However, we should also consider the plot writing in such a hypothetical scenario. This is just one reason why I don’t support the Abeloth on Peridea theory: if she is so powerful, no living person on Peridea or in the Galaxy will stand a chance at stopping her, not without some major plot contrivances. So that’d leave the Chosen One as the only one potentially capable of defeating Abeloth. And if he couldn’t beat her, then it’s game over for the Galaxy. To some sequel haters, that might not be a bad gig. But there’s just no beating a creature like Abeloth if she’s the power ceiling in Star Wars. And I don’t think that’s healthy for the canon, nor very conducive to strong story writing.
@ericblue5436
@ericblue5436 8 ай бұрын
This is why we need a movie or maybe even a trilogy surrounding Abeloth.
@mrconfusion87
@mrconfusion87 8 ай бұрын
That is what the Sequel Trilogy should have been!
@mclovin700
@mclovin700 8 ай бұрын
I was fine throughout the whole video until you said, he made peace with Lord Vader, which brought down tears of joy😢❤
@zenith110
@zenith110 8 ай бұрын
Power scaling on this level kind of makes me wonder what the point of it all is
@lsodiumoverdosel
@lsodiumoverdosel 8 ай бұрын
Sadly thats why the movies never feature such power, cause it makes people feel this way. I on the other hand want to see it. The force used in all its power. Not just a push or choke with the occasional lightning.
@testingDEATH
@testingDEATH 5 ай бұрын
it seems like after Anakin died he basically became a godlike deity being able to control the world between worlds and essentiall watch over the universe
@MrDerrickraycarmel
@MrDerrickraycarmel 8 ай бұрын
You should do a new video about Shen, Baylon’s apprentice (forgive the spelling) however it’s been suggested that she is a Mara Jade character, but true Star Wars nerds know she is completely Vestara Kai, the young Sith from the legends Abeloth story.
@KraNisOG
@KraNisOG 8 ай бұрын
We should probably assume that Anakin is going to search for another son, ans daughter, and then fight her. Knowing Disney, we'll probably have Anakin fight her alone, and lose to collect said light and dark side to then fight her.
@P.ilhaformosatherium
@P.ilhaformosatherium 3 ай бұрын
Anakin: It's over Abeloth i have the high ground
@chrisnash2154
@chrisnash2154 8 ай бұрын
I think there should be a movie to address this!
@Ave_Christus_Rex37
@Ave_Christus_Rex37 8 ай бұрын
4:30 "Force healing is not a common ability nor is it an easy one to use" Ray: But the Force is female
@jpacheco290
@jpacheco290 7 ай бұрын
I love this, but I really think Balin is looking for the fountain to become cold, dark side and that this moment her
@24nero24
@24nero24 10 күн бұрын
Even masters of force healing (which takes years of trying)have difficulty healing wounds and cannot do it perfectly Folding space was previously thought to only belong to the aing-tii monks A high concept reality warping ability to teleport Ray palpatine: hold my plot power bullshit I can do everything without knowing it even existed and without any training
@josermaiz
@josermaiz 8 ай бұрын
Abeloth fights Anakin would have insane cause Anakin in world between worlds was powerful and he probably know about Abeloth
@joshuamann1768
@joshuamann1768 8 ай бұрын
These are the headlines i like to see
@Bsmith806
@Bsmith806 8 ай бұрын
Easy way to think about it: If Luke can do it, so can Anakin
@dancooke8811
@dancooke8811 7 ай бұрын
She sounds like Frieza in the Namek/Frieza Saga
@CVargas202
@CVargas202 23 күн бұрын
THE ONES were not able to kill Abeloth only imprison her, wether that was out of love or just her sheer power. Anakin got folded by Obi-Wan at his height, then again as Vader. Abeloth was imprison by 3 dark holes and she was still able to shape space and people thru the stars. It took grand master luke and several sith Lords to even put a dent on her
@micahhilles
@micahhilles 8 ай бұрын
You said that force healing is difficult despite what video games would have us believe, but i think you meant that it was difficult despite what the sequel trilogy would have us believe
@ericm5315
@ericm5315 8 ай бұрын
Anakin in his new form basically doesn't have any feats. All he did was present Ashoka with visions and lightsaber fought her in another realm. We don't know anything else.
@kmh4674
@kmh4674 8 ай бұрын
I think the real question is who is the son if ahsoka is confirmed the daughter. Baylan appeared to be being set up as the son but I think that’s a bit of a cop out even before Ray unfortunately passed since Baylan wasn’t exactly a heavy screen time character pre Ahsoka and doesn’t have the adoration of the fans or the familiarity that Ahsoka and a akin do. Candidates I could see for the so. Are probably characters like Darth Revan, Sidious, Kylo Ren ( although that would be be bs even if he is the son of Leia and in a lot of ways the son of Darth Vader), count dooku could be cool or Maul though they’re both by no means embodiment of the dark side and no where near powerful enough, I’d love for star killer to be the son because he was deemed non cannon just based on how powerful he is in the dark side of the force and with Ahsoka the daughter being a Anakins Jedi apprentice, there’s parity to starkiller being Darth Vaders Smith apprentice then the son and daughter would both be apprentices of the chosen one (who will bring balance to the force keep in mind) but it probably won’t be cuz Dave filing idolizes Lucas and starkiller was deemed non cannon by Lucas. Food for thought…
@tatorznel642
@tatorznel642 8 ай бұрын
Dude I was so excited to see Anakin again I completely glossed over the fact that he had full control of the gd world between worlds. Hearing you say it out loud, the instant realization almost literally blew my mind lol thanks for the video!!! 👍👍👍
@squall5742
@squall5742 8 ай бұрын
Right now Anakin is the keeper of the world between worlds, is the embodiment of the of force itself as he can access both light, dark and balance with no issue at all. If u are a die hard fan you know about the immense and almost absolute power of the priestess of the force, I'd I compare their abilities to Anakin's new ones Anakin outclass them by fr, so yes he would dominate everything rn. He became one with the force, I think that he is close to omnipotent in the spiritual force way but choose not to act on the physical force
@615outeast8
@615outeast8 8 ай бұрын
To me it's sounding like abeloth is too freaking powerful, too even bring on TV, she needs her own movie as the main villain !!!
@Chris.Mendoza
@Chris.Mendoza 8 ай бұрын
Do a vid on abeloth and vitiate
@DrkMegaman
@DrkMegaman 8 ай бұрын
The question ahould be how strong would anakin be if he was trained under qui gon?
@BuiltPerfect
@BuiltPerfect 8 ай бұрын
Man i hope we get to see anakin show up at the 11th hour like right as abeloth is about to win he shows up and just complete destroys her and we finally get to see what had been hinted at for yrs the limitless power of the chosen one on screen.
@flyingscotsman9657
@flyingscotsman9657 8 ай бұрын
That is really what I want to see - watch Abeloth stamp Ahsoka and maybe Luke as well but then the camera panning around to show Anakin standing there before he starts going to town on her
@Bryan-uw1ny
@Bryan-uw1ny 8 ай бұрын
Look, I know a lot of the fan service has been real cheesy, but I think Luke needs his own show, where he meets Anakin and is told about Abeloth. Assemble the fuckin gang and go after her. What if they even had to work with Thrawn to defeat her? Lord knows the republic ain't worth a fuck.
@timelesscoaching
@timelesscoaching 8 ай бұрын
I have no idea, but I would love to see that fight. Why hasn't she ever been in a movie or show? I'm just guessing, but is it because she is to strong and nobody would stand a chance against her, except maybe full force Anakin?
@MavisterEric
@MavisterEric 8 ай бұрын
I am skeptical about Anakin's chances of defeating Abeloth because of the fact that she is far older than him and that age carries a lot of experience and power with her. You can be an Anakin fanboy all you want but all of your biased speculation will never bring him victory against Abeloth. She was too powerful for a combined effort by Jedi /and/ Sith and one guy has /no/ chance of intimidating her much less defeating her by himself.
@piotrgrzyb3476
@piotrgrzyb3476 8 ай бұрын
2:22 that form Darth Vader comic book? Where he was easily able to kill all Jedi and Sith? Man this is going to be really, really great battle.
@semperoth
@semperoth 8 ай бұрын
It's entirely possible that Luke inherited his Mortal Potential and just never hit the peak of it. I also kind of think Anakin is meant to replace all three and that's why he can overpower the Son and the Daughter with ease even when he was a mortal. It's like he had two potentials. One for when he was a Mortal and he needed to attain Balance at the end of his life in order to ascend into his Deity Potential. It also seems that while Luke is powerful he may not have hit his full potential?
@michaelnancyamsden7410
@michaelnancyamsden7410 8 ай бұрын
Interesting idea. He does now seem to grasp both sides of the force.
@RedonkulousCaptious
@RedonkulousCaptious 2 ай бұрын
The level of control and power was conveyed to me through the art. Aboleth was twisted into a literal monster by the forces she engaged. Remember: that's a human woman under all that mutation, not an alien. Anakin is crushing entire armies without using extensive flashy powers, and he looks like he had a deep goth makeover and needs a nap. One lost control and is a tool for the darkside, and the other has the darkside in a strangle hold doing what he wants with it.
@0nIyGeese
@0nIyGeese 8 ай бұрын
This comparison makes me so happy, also puts to bed the argument of "WbW Anakin vs Grandmaster Luke". Where I always said Anakin solos.
@Aparski
@Aparski 8 ай бұрын
To take abeloths greatest power away from her (mind control/manipulation), which has clearly been anakins greatest weakness, is the same as saying, taking away Anakins' arms and challenging abeloth to a Saber duel.... I'm just saying.
@MatthewJamesKalasky
@MatthewJamesKalasky 8 ай бұрын
Very interesting.
@williamnorris2906
@williamnorris2906 8 ай бұрын
YES assuming that he is now is the "father" and has the task of containing her. The only way that would be possible is if he was stronger.
@nnjasmurf600
@nnjasmurf600 8 ай бұрын
How do we know it was Anakin manipulating the world between worlds? Couldn’t it be the daughter following Ahsoka? Since Ahsoka was between life and death she could walk that realm and the daughter could show her the path? Or Ahsoka herself could do it. Ezra did it to a degree he brought Ahsoka back inside that realm. It’s realm of the strong willed
@juanlaise1059
@juanlaise1059 8 ай бұрын
It was Ahsoka herself. She was even moving trough battles Anakin was not part of(like the siege of Mandalore). The fanbase likes to wank Anakin, but he is NOT a Force God, and all he did there was help Ahsoka trough her depression and guide her.
@skylarvandevander8405
@skylarvandevander8405 8 ай бұрын
If anyone was paying attention, ashoka died. And Anakin called her to where he was which we see completely manipulate reality and after she comes back. One thing not mentioned was, if you had a connection to the force you could hear them clashing lightsabers which in itself was the force. I think Anakin has reached a level of complete oneness with the force or is on that road, there may be something that comes later on to explain this.
@stephanie86
@stephanie86 4 ай бұрын
Wondering if her ability to use the force to sway others is working harder than we give credit? Using illusion to hide wounds or mirror images taking damage but her "core" is unaffected. A lot of videos depict her as unrelatable but her origin story is very "human" with the fear of loss and love.
@BluJae93
@BluJae93 8 ай бұрын
The power levels in Star Wars is insane
@Mikey-Likes-I.T
@Mikey-Likes-I.T 5 ай бұрын
sounds like an epic fight, you need to make a CG/animated version of this. I also believe that Anakin Skywalker would win.
@jameswalton6551
@jameswalton6551 Ай бұрын
Everything that I've seen actually indicates that Luke Skywalker encountered the Mortis Tribunal He had not yet reached the level of Grand Master thus wasn't at his full potential but Anikan Skywalker on the other hand was close with only His emotions being in His way & conflicting influence on what His decision should be making it hard for Him to come to the realization of where His outlooks on the Force lies for He always had both the Light & Dark side of the Force to call upon thus what made Him a unstoppable force before His Children came into the picture.
@piotrgrzyb3476
@piotrgrzyb3476 8 ай бұрын
2:48 EU Luke or canon Luke? EU Luke is such a power...
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