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@jaegerbomb269 Жыл бұрын
Suggestion: Do a video on the Devistation of Baal? 🙏
@Sciontabier Жыл бұрын
Please make a Nykona Sharrowkyn/Raven Guard inspired major mini.
@withlovefromlightindust591 Жыл бұрын
Hello Majorkill, Would you please make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, the Ecclesiarchy, and the High Lords of Terra? Pretty please? Thank you.
@themysticalcolby Жыл бұрын
Bring back the Emperor mini! 💪 👑
@thedevourer. Жыл бұрын
No mention of his fight with an eversor ? Unarmed too
@snackboxone364 Жыл бұрын
This chapter is why Khorne wanted the Blood Angels so badly
@Therestrial205 Жыл бұрын
Khorne wanted The Blood Angels and Sanguinius not because The Black Rage and this Chapter exist He already targeting them before the Black Rage existed He like them because Sanguinius really perfect for him An great honorable fighter and a War Master It's also possible that he's targeting them because of the Red Thirst
@remygallardo7364 Жыл бұрын
@@Therestrial205 Also don't forget that even Horus said that Sanguinius should have been the warmaster and the best of the primarchs. Khorne set his eyes on the real prize among the children of the emperor.
@finch-xg8sj Жыл бұрын
After sanguinis defend the gates from an entire army and after he got stabbed by angron and after he beat angron he mortally wounded horus who was maybe stronger than the emperor at the time from all the chaos steroids
@non1263 Жыл бұрын
Sanguinius encompassed both the good and bad aspects of Khornes domain while Angron only encompassed the bad.
@jackbloomer1334 Жыл бұрын
A cool moment in devastation of baal the chapter master of the knights of blood is pretty much close to the black rage a Khorne greater daemon offers him to join the chapter master says fuck you to the daemon and charges the daemon along with the rest of his chapter
@SilentRaider53 Жыл бұрын
I did gain a lot of respect for Gabriel Seth after reading "Devastation of Baal". He was ruthless, brutal, and uncompromising, but he clearly had a code of honor, had deep and unwavering love and respect for his gene-sire, and genuinely wished to have him and his chapter looked upon as proud warriors and not mindless monster. It was made clear that while you most certainly don't want to fight beside him, you definitely want him on your side.
@Syst3m04 Жыл бұрын
That’s also why Dante put him with the Knights of Blood. Dante knew what the FT’s could become and wanted to show Seth what could happen if they embraced the flaw too much. That’s how I took it anyway, as a warning to a chapter he admires.
@SilentRaider53 Жыл бұрын
@@Syst3m04 I agree.
@freddymcshreddy6586 Жыл бұрын
@@Syst3m04there is a scene where Sentor Jool kills an innocent subordinate and offers up his blood to gabriel and gabriel is immediately disgusted as he would never *wilingly* do that to an innocent man.
@BloodBuffalo Жыл бұрын
Read trial by blood. It's why I love him so much and got his mini.
@LaughingJokerProd Жыл бұрын
@@freddymcshreddy6586 “Professionals have standard!” - Gabriel
@mickbrown7793 Жыл бұрын
from memory, when Dante was asking for help, Seth's turning point was when Dante (mid-battle) referred to him as brother. Seth claimed it was the first time since his arrival on Baal that Dante had given him that respect. he'd refuse tribute to the Blood Angels chapter, but he would give aid to a brother.
@NemFX Жыл бұрын
Essentially. The idea is that Seth takes his space marine Vows* very seriously. "Let he who sheds his blood with me, be my battle brother eternal." Because they both ended up bloody fighting against Tyranids, they are bros now.
@LaughingJokerProd Жыл бұрын
@@NemFX Everyone should have that super dickhead friend but will absolutely help burry, or eat for Gabriel’s sense, a body with you
@wampawu Жыл бұрын
@@NemFXah yes the astartes cows.
@NemFX Жыл бұрын
@@wampawu heh, I didn't see that, stupid autocorrect
@freddymcshreddy6586 Жыл бұрын
Another cool moment is when Sentor Jool (chapter master of the knights of blood) killed an innocent subordinate and offered up his blood to Gabriel as a way of extending friendship. Gabriel was immediately disgusted by this, not because he so casually killed someone’s but because that person was innocent. Despite how much Gabriel wants to indulge and drink his blood he refuses and says that he will never *willingly* do that to an innocent man.
@Nurriek Жыл бұрын
The passage where he kicks the shit out of his own primaris wasn't just because he was unimpressed with them. It was to demonstrate the harsh reality of what they were. Yeah, you're big. Yeah, you're strong. Yeah, you were made better. But are you actually better? Seth is an interesting character because even in contention with the Black Rage, he is never reckless. He can't afford to be. Everything he seems to do has a purpose. It has a point.
@Makorze Жыл бұрын
He also beat the Primaris marine to demonstrate two things. 1. Superior augmentations are no substitute for combat experience. 2. This is how a Flesh Tearer fights. (The latter is important as new Primaris have to struggle with a mental bias to make logical decisions and not act on instinct - "Ultramarines in Red" as Seth puts it. Space Wolves had a similar issue. Grimar solved it by putting a few firstborns in every Primaris company to teach them the Fenrisan way of War.)
@stripeybag6977 Жыл бұрын
Apparently in a fairly recent look in game, despite the Blood Angels Detachment rule having a lower win rate than Gladius more Blood Angels players would rather not be Red Ultramarines so Brother Seth is proud. Also he's already like a head taller other Firstborns Astartes. Day 315 of requesting a Commissar Yarrick Major Mini pls and thank you.
@raymanx187 Жыл бұрын
Call him Bale Eye.
@TheOfficialYOBC Жыл бұрын
I still remember how Seth reacted to the Knights of Blood and their Chapter Master Sentor Jool. They were even more reckless and brutal.
@FerreusVir Жыл бұрын
I believe they were even declared traitors and didn't go renegade despite that. They died to a man during the siege of Baal, too.
@kilotun8316 Жыл бұрын
So among Seth's powers is the ability to unleash killer insults/burns.
@samhobbs9116 Жыл бұрын
Yes. S tier
@mitchmitting102 Жыл бұрын
Dudes power is to harness the most holiest roasts an Astartes can
@secondarytrollaccount Жыл бұрын
Theres a fan fiction story about a group of primaris flesh tearers scared about a tsunami of tyranids about to crash into them. The sgt primaris sent a message to hq telling them they needed reinforcements but no one replied leading them to think the chapter hated them and were going to leave them out to hang,but out of nowhere they got a signal a drop pod was coming in. When the drop pod landed they all were shook to see gabriel seth himself exit the pod with some terminators as he crashed into the tyranid wave solo and started going ham enraging the primaris to all charge full speed into the nids in defense of their chapter master. This is my favorite flesh tearers story as it shows the kind of leader seth really is charging solo into a literal army of nids risking his life just to show the primaris who he doesnt like in the first place how they are expected to fight as flesh tearers. Even though this is not lore I feel like it's plausible for seth if he were to fight with the primaris.
@insertedgynamehere Жыл бұрын
I think that was just fanfiction written by baldermort for the intro to his Gabriel Seth video
@secondarytrollaccount Жыл бұрын
@@insertedgynamehere nah you're right I just went on balds channel and found it. That's a shame it was just fan fic but what made me think it was legit was how well dude writes and delivers his stories. I changed my original comment to not mislead anyone to think that story is canon.
@Animogx Жыл бұрын
Flesh Tearers and the Lamentors are my favorite Blood Angel successor chapters, being noble sons of the Angel but having a shadow cast on them even when they still fight with everything to live up to that legend. From a video from the Rememberencer I heard in Gabriel's trial that it was noted that each successor chapter represented a facet of Sanguinius, making the Flesh Tears and most certainly Gabriel all the more important, showing that darkness inside of the Angels but also the strength to overcome it. I also admit bias for Gabriel as his last name is my first name lol
@brotherhoodofsteel4751 Жыл бұрын
I would love for a book or short story about those two chapters working together
@zeroakira584 Жыл бұрын
Seth is the true image of saying: I am a monster but I am a monster who fight for my people while under anger management class. Making me see why Khorne want to claim him and his battle brothers so much.
@NemFX Жыл бұрын
"Weapons? I did not bring weapons. I brought monsters!" *backdrop of Death Company drop pods*
@zeroakira584 Жыл бұрын
@@NemFX I did bring no weapons. I am the WEAPON!
@NemFX Жыл бұрын
@@zeroakira584 Good. As it should be.
@johannesmakila2459 Жыл бұрын
I have two audio dramas about Gabriel Seth named Blood in the Machine and Hunger and both have made me his fans. Also I really love his quote "if Gulliman had his way we would be red Ultramarines" about Primaris.
@TechNinjaSigma Жыл бұрын
Since we got Flesh Tearers, we should get Knights of Blood next
@NemFX Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I can tell you the whole story. They were created to die, in defense of Baal. They were meant to be an object lesson of what would happen if the Flesh Tearers didn't change.
@trimeerious4349 Жыл бұрын
Getting a video about how each of the pre heresy primarchs would have reacted to being in Guillimans position as imperial regent would be pretty cool ngl
@redisb2556 Жыл бұрын
Getting video without this comment would be pretty cool ngl
@DylanJo123 Жыл бұрын
@@redisb2556getting a video without a comment complaining about a comment would be pretty cool ngl
@JerrybutTaller Жыл бұрын
I agree
@Tortle-Man Жыл бұрын
@DylanJo123 Getting a video without a comment complaining about a comment that was complainant about another comment that was complaining about the original comment would also be good. But we can keep going.
@pentacosttb2565 Жыл бұрын
I hope we both never get this video and that this comment is always posted. I hope on his Deathbed, Majorkill calls this guy to him, and with his last breath, tells him of how awesome Guilliman is, before smiling as he steps into the light, one last screamed out request for a video of what would happen should other Primarchs have returned instead of Guilliman carrying him into the arms of the hot busty angels awaiting him.
@withlovefromlightindust591 Жыл бұрын
Hello Majorkill, Would you please make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, the Ecclesiarchy, and the High Lords of Terra? Pretty please? Thank you.
@golden4121 Жыл бұрын
I can't remember what book its in but i really loved how he told dante and other blood angels chapter masters that they can do anything to him but if they try to do anything to his chapter he would kill them all brutally
@TheRedMan77 Жыл бұрын
Didn't Seth also get locked in a room with an Eversor - _alone_ - and actually managed to kill it? I mean sure, he had to wait for it to burn itself out and spent most of the fight trying not to get his spine ripped out but still. How many people have survived and won against an Eversor by themselves?
@NemFX Жыл бұрын
Yes. The point of that story was to show his intelligence. Seth waits for it to start screwing up, cuts it's hands off, escapes the trap he was in, then uses the Eversor against the guy that 'hired' the Eversor in the first place.
@dalekilpatrick6456 Жыл бұрын
Where is this story?
@sadhappy8860 Жыл бұрын
@@dalekilpatrick6456 It's an Audio Drama called 'The Assassination of Gabriel Seth'.
@NemFX Жыл бұрын
@@dalekilpatrick6456 It's an audiobook, The Assassination of Gabriel Seth
@TheRedMan77 Жыл бұрын
@@NemFX Damn. Seth is crazy.
@Compa_Doom Жыл бұрын
Seth is easily one of the best characters they have. He has so many layers to him that you can't help but love the guy
@enzobournazel6340 Жыл бұрын
There is a scene in devastation of baal pretty cool where he is so efficient at mele fight that the nids avoid direct assault on him
@sarnicholas4053 Жыл бұрын
To put in perspective how insane it is that the Flesh Tearers drove Orks to actually fear and avoid them, the only other example of that happening that comes to mind is when the Primary Jaghatai Khan enters his flow state and starts ripping them to shreds. even if it's an entire chapter of psychos, the fact that they can inspire the same level of fear as a Primarch in battle is pretty wild.
@KomboAndy Жыл бұрын
I imagine Khorn on his skullthrone: A bag of popkhorn in on the right and on the left a flesh tearer plushy
@KaijuBiologistАй бұрын
Gabriel Seth and the Flesh Tearers are one of my favorite Chapters.
@grayrook8637 Жыл бұрын
Fuck yes, the most noble son of The Angel. I know that Black Rage insane but he most embodies Sangis flaws and what made him truly great.
@barlotardy Жыл бұрын
I like how the flesh tearers make little to no effort to keep their sanguinary guard up to capacity, because the idea of Seth needing bodyguards is so laughable. Like Angron with the devourerers...
@Runtothesun4 Жыл бұрын
A video about guillimans relationship with his successor chapters sounds perfect video content!
@vehw7 ай бұрын
Gabriel is like mace windu in 40k this dude is second grand master and using his inner dark to do what is needed for grater good
@Corsair-Mandrake Жыл бұрын
What's also nice about the Flesh Tearers is their paint scheme isn't that hard to do.
@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 Жыл бұрын
The Flesh Tearers are why deeply flawed Chapters are so much more interesting then the poster boys in blue. As humans we are flawed ourselves, so we identify more with people who are flawed as well then with people who appear to be perfect.
@NemFX Жыл бұрын
Most people don't get the WHY of that; they didn'tunderstandwhy the Flesh Tearers would reject the primaris. Seth thought they were acting too superior, that they had no flaws, and showed no anger. Seth only beat him up to make him actually mad enough to fight back. Then he stopped and was like "Good. You DO get mad. See, for all your advantages, you're still like us. And if they made you better at everything else, how do you think you'll manage against the curse?"
@gregseward1806 Жыл бұрын
As a Flesh Tearer player, thank you for the boss video on the big man himself!
@nikolascabrera190111 ай бұрын
Love the blood boys, and love seeing Seth be represented, always enjoy the content man keep it up
@ArnoldJudasRimmer.. Жыл бұрын
Gabriel Seth is bloody awesome! But....he is surpassed for me by his former Liege...The absolutely legendary Nassir Amit!
@drengr7210 Жыл бұрын
I very much need a miniature of this legend now
@coalitionofrob436 Жыл бұрын
He had one. Kitbash is the way.
@sasanahadian2859 Жыл бұрын
Superb video as always @majorkill. Could you make a video dedicated to the Navigators, the major houses, their politics, relation to the overall Imperium and factions, etc?
@wahbegan Жыл бұрын
"He's a loose cannon...but god damn it, he gets results!!" -Astorath, probably
@DoomStroller Жыл бұрын
Straight G. Openly a total prick but so loyal, reliable and fucking dangerous that he gets respect cuz he walks the fucking walk. Really dig the Astorath exchange. As cool as Gabe is I would love to hear more on Astorath!
@BloodBuffalo Жыл бұрын
I strongly recommend everyone read the Gabriel Seth book Trial by blood. It really illustrates how complex a character he is.
@Max-vp5sn Жыл бұрын
Shame flesh tearers are literally the biggest assholes. They’re so hard to root for, even in the books that are specifically written about them. I found it easier to root for the nightlords in their books, and they literally flay their own crew members for no reason.
@Tortle-Man Жыл бұрын
Tbh that was the point. Space marines are gene enhances CHILD SOLDIERS, it’s kind of a miracle they aren’t all insane.
@MrLaz0rz Жыл бұрын
Find it easier to root for traitors, vagabonds, thieves and r@pists than a chapter who's occasionally so angry they'll kill everyone infront of them. Sad, man. Work out more.
@guaneerjock6247 Жыл бұрын
@@MrLaz0rzThe two scenarios you pointed out are equally bad what are you saying?
@Max-vp5sn Жыл бұрын
@@MrLaz0rz occasionally? Have you read wrath of the lost? Compare that to the nightlord trilogy. They’re constantly killing their own crew for absolutely no reason whatsoever, while they’re not experiencing the red thirst or in the black rage might I add. And space marines don’t have sexual desire so they’re not rapists? Flesh tearers literally flay their enemies and wear their skin just like nightlords. The only difference is nightlords are supposed to be the “bad guys” Blud really said workout more in defence of a legion that do more harm then good 99% of the time lol.
@Nurriek Жыл бұрын
@@Max-vp5sn Kekw. The Raptor Cults want to know your location. Insistently. They've got some things to show you. EleGiggle.
@Burkutace27 Жыл бұрын
The Tyrranids were not prepared for this charge. They were not prepared for the Flesh Tearers.
@iancowan3527 Жыл бұрын
I give you solid props on hooking your sponsor... The opening argument - hits those very conscious of their intakes!
@odststalker51173 ай бұрын
I do like the bloodthirsty space barbarians who somehow still manage to be the good guys
@MegaGullas Жыл бұрын
Imagine being taken to court by The Blood-drinking Angels of Death, once the Revenant Legion, almost executed by the Master of Mankind if not for the actions of their gene-father; for committing *too many* warcrimes for even them.
@danjackson28485 ай бұрын
Kharn vs Gabriel would be insane
@barlotardy Жыл бұрын
I play Flesh Tearers. My army is like 95% assault marines. I have never won a game. This is fine.
@drunknnirish Жыл бұрын
Gabriel Seth is the coolest thing to ever come from the Blood Angel line. Your team America part in the Flesh Tearers vid was a way better lay out of Seth on trial though.
@ianharrison5758 Жыл бұрын
Seth is the definition of “standing on business”
@bradleyarchibald2464 Жыл бұрын
What about the time Seth took on an everesor in the audio drama the assassination of Gabriel Seth?
@JeffereyShoop-ru6zz Жыл бұрын
Seth had to fight an eversore. I'm sure you've heard it. Surprised you didn't mention it. Bad ass
@jonahmasa3847 Жыл бұрын
I was disappointed that you didn't mention the multiple assassination attempts he survived
@bigyeticane Жыл бұрын
How does Khorne feel about the whole black rage thing, and do the Blood Angels or their successor chapters ever lose marines to the corruption of chaos?
@rungfang27 Жыл бұрын
Yes the blood angel story in the comics, I believe the comic book was called hammer and bolter, circa 95-96 ran to sometime early 00's. Quick run down, BA captain loses sacred sword Dante sends him on quest to find out. They go into eye of terror he becomes big bad while saving his marines.
@Shimarama Жыл бұрын
"Yes! Seth is an f*kcing a**hole and should eat sh*t... BUT, HIS OUR A**HOLE!" had me laughing 😂😂😂
@OneReallyGrumpyJill Жыл бұрын
imo, Gabriel is a good example of lawful evil: he is a bad person morally, but still sticks to a strict code.
@friskydingo9024 Жыл бұрын
Seth is without a doubt one of my favorite 40k characters.
@insertedgynamehere Жыл бұрын
I can't believe you skipped the assassination of Gabriel Seth
@CardenV2 Жыл бұрын
Dude you know he's gotta milk the lore
@TheOnlyDoomGuy Жыл бұрын
The first thing I do before I even skip the ad is like the video, keep up the great work G
@marceloasensiofilho3833 Жыл бұрын
Eager to see a Garviel Loken video. It seems to be coming soon
@ragnarcroughs2784 Жыл бұрын
Getting the black rage:"ohno, anyway, I started blasting"
@jac7292 Жыл бұрын
Can u do a video on if a loyalist primarch turned traitor during the heresy how much of their legion would have stayed loyal to the emperor
@Tropicoboy Жыл бұрын
The world eaters is what Sanguinses and the blood angels could have been if Sanguinses found a less fortunate homeworld Angron and the world eaters could have been so much more...
@randomlygeneratedname Жыл бұрын
I'm still mad about them taking his headbutting rule out
@grimoaldmeyer Жыл бұрын
Received the shark daddy and the space elves big boss, they are awesome, thanks
@Lazrael32 Жыл бұрын
i kind of loved the evolving bromance between dante and seth
@UncleMikeDrop Жыл бұрын
With his forehead Gabriel Seth is sometimes literally the goat.
@themitchnater7800 Жыл бұрын
Majorkill you should do a video on the life of a chaos cultists
@TabukiJones Жыл бұрын
"Known to be extremely good at headbutting people". Sevatar 👍
@drunknnirish Жыл бұрын
The mental image of those two trading head butts is so awesome.
@neimenovani7256 Жыл бұрын
Damn, if ill collect an army it will be these guys
@feralprocessor9853 Жыл бұрын
An absolute Chad super soldier
@FRAAANKYSUUUPER Жыл бұрын
Mr. Majorkill, Are you okay? Your energy just seems a little... Off lately. Always a pleasure to watch your videos x.
@brownhues Жыл бұрын
These guys are the canon Angry Marines
@feralprocessor9853 Жыл бұрын
So many deaththreats
@memesterjohnson4096 Жыл бұрын
FOR THE EMPEROR!!!
@tired040 Жыл бұрын
That pic at roughly 7:15, so good.
@alohi79 Жыл бұрын
I respected Seth, but after just now hearing how he delt with the Inquisitor... i fking love the guy
@legio-IV-Cataphract Жыл бұрын
The top ten community made wholesome moments would be great
@transfan962 Жыл бұрын
Do a video on the chief librarian from each legion.
@winterknight4307 Жыл бұрын
Getting a video about how each pre heresy primarch would have reacted to being in Guillimans position as imperial regent would be cool
@CrashRacknShoot Жыл бұрын
Imagination. Use it.
@wilhelmspruck3544 Жыл бұрын
One of you best vids in my opinion.
@yamahadrag69 Жыл бұрын
I want an eviscerator in Darktide that looks like Seth's: with the guard removed so the chain blade is double sided to really highlight how the Zealot class isn't worried about harming themselves. They want Big E's enemies to die screaming.
@Tonseren Жыл бұрын
You shuld definatly make a "not-seth" model!
@deus1521 Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite top teair chapter masters.
@MrBounce66 Жыл бұрын
Seth. I am a monster, but I am the emperor's monster.
@bennothdurft6849 Жыл бұрын
Need an art peice of Seth head butting Grimgor now
@Karstodes Жыл бұрын
GG MajorKill
@JstenAYJ Жыл бұрын
Who here think it would be funny if MajorKill did a video explaning World War 1?
@JPKgold Жыл бұрын
Dude made Orks feel genuine fear and made an inquisitor stop being an Inquisitor? Sounds like such a fanfic OC lol
@whythough6619 Жыл бұрын
This video helps pass the time as i sit here in class under threat of school shooting
@jimmysmith2249 Жыл бұрын
Gabriel Seth: Master of the Australian kiss.
@whitlermountain7198 Жыл бұрын
damn, that hospital ship got fucked up, goddamn.
@sethleoric2598 Жыл бұрын
I like to think being friends with Gabriel Seth is like being with an MS13 member you stabilized and revived.
@camomurf5182 Жыл бұрын
One day, when Gabriel Seth dies, they're going to turn his skull into a Chaplain's helmet. It will be the most impenetrable of all helmets, able to withstand ceramite fists to the face on the daily. XD
@jaegerbomb269 Жыл бұрын
Flesh Tearers are true heels.
@MysticalMutant Жыл бұрын
Please do an episode about demon engines next
@NemFX Жыл бұрын
Okay, admittedly Gabriel Seth is not the deepest character. He knows his role, and he plays it perfectly. He isn't an idiot, as most would believe. He isn't the strongest by any measure. No, Seth has a role that most people don't notice. Endurance. Seth has a mission for his chapter. He knows they are doomed. He is going to go down in as much glory as possible. He saw what happened to the Knights of Blood, in the defense of Baal. He doesn't want to be remembered as an out of control hoarde. He is very careful with his fights, trying to win with as few losses as possible. Except when the act of fighting is more important than the outcome. He literally went to Astorath's tower. The guy who kills the out of control Death Company. Foght him hand to hand, and managed a stalemate. Astorath. The guy who literally puts down the strongest of the Blood Angels. Astorath's first major hit is described as a thunderhammer to Seth's face. He manages to endure it. The fight isn't long. Astorath has a jump pack, Seth breaks it. They both put each other in the hospital. Seth, on his way out says that if Astorath kills a single more Flesh Tearer, he'll come back, but won't be alone and unarmed. Seth would literally start a war to save his brothers under his care. THAT is why Seth deserves the respect he has.
@MrLaz0rz Жыл бұрын
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, BEST CHAPTER. RIP AND TEAR.
@dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd Жыл бұрын
Hey Majorkill can you do a video of Cato Sicarious, and what he really is then just "I Cato Sicarious" meme.
@les5979 Жыл бұрын
a video on Ahriman perhaps
@ryanwadhwa2813 Жыл бұрын
Flesh tearers are a unique succesor chapter, gabriel seth is the representation.
@chainsawsubtlety9828 Жыл бұрын
The "Flesh Tearers" did a "deep strike to the Orks rear", and he didn't make a joke about it? Is our boy growing up?
@Tom-sl6ry Жыл бұрын
Could we get a video on alpha Primus, or standout individually engineered soldiers
@P1T18i3K Жыл бұрын
would be interested to see what would happen if malcador survived the heresy