Why Germany IS Divided!

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#tommykay #germany #east #west

[@sirsleeps-a-lot9376]

16:13 Behold, this is what crosses the mind of every single German every day

[@poggingmilk9452]

Very true very true, i want me prussia :(((. Give Poland their russian territory back and us our beloved Prussian

[@rainbowappleslice]

IDK why people expected the re-unification of Germany to not still have issues only 30 years afterwards. The US civil war still had significant impact after 100 years and the south was only seperated for around 4 years, even if the feeling of seperation was felt long before that. Edit: I’m also aware that the reconstruction was incredibly awful in the US which probably helped the divide stay much stronger for much longer

[@umthefunjoker]

Because Germany is known for it's social policies, so i think many expected a better work on the reunification

[@rainbowappleslice]

@@umthefunjoker I guess I can see that being the case

[@teaser6089]

The divide is still there to this day, pretty crazy

[@derkurier2710]

Because many didn't want the West to just absorb the East but a New German State OR just an open Border many in the East were more than happy to be East Germans and only wanted to Travel west and have elections

[@user-pn3xj8wz3b]

brother we still call northerners "yankee" down here behind closed doors.. the social divide is still there but thank god that slavary is gone otherwise i wouldn't exsist!

[@C.A._Old]

*7:50** that same sh*t happened in after soviet union collapsed.*

[@sharpasacueball]

Yeah this is how oligarchs got power in Russia

[@larry417]

18 seconds in and i can confirm this is a true tommy classic

[@NPC_28621]

It's so weird when Tommy says "white" when referring to native Europeans, it's such an American term and is so weird to see a native European talking about their fellow European as just a "white".

[@naapsuvaimne740]

europe is white so what?

[@davidcnutt5826]

Words are sounds we make with our mouths that convey meaning. Is that not obvious what saying “white” people convey? Or are we policing speech? What’s more woke?

[@mnemonicpie]

Got triggered?

[@craftah]

we real europeans are white

[@NPC_28621]

@@naapsuvaimne740 No shit, it goes without saying, which is my point.

[@cooler_boi_patrick3989]

8:10 there is a good Video from Die Anstalt explaining how the Treuhand selled nearly every company even if they had a possible Future

[@teaser6089]

This is really fun, to actually get a German perspective on a video like this. Also chat said Patton, but it was actually Churchill that proposed to attack Russia cause he feared that Russia would only grow stronger.

[@heathclark318]

Believe Patton and Churchill did, for somewhat similar reasons. That of Communism being a natural enemy of the West.

[@johnmeskill4636]

Patton also shared that sentiment

[@lawden210]

Operation Unthinkable

[@NYG5]

Patton was vocal about being supportive of such a thing and held massive gravitas, that's why they had him whacked by a "runaway donkey cart"

[@AnonD38]

@avraamavramovichEveryone has corpses in the basement.

[@mrteabig9816]

I love tommyKay's videos

[@benniecube2334]

Same

[@fridericusrextard]

Wait Tommy is friends with Parabelritter? A welcome surprise tbh

[@mrosovjetsmemes5064]

Tommy react to truth about east germany very good video. It talks about how east geramny had to pay war reparations to Soviets while west was funded by US and east still managed to pay 100 milions to Soviets. Very intresting video (video by fellow traveler)

[@Saede.]

Love that video, gives a great insight on the GDR. Amazing what the east was able to accomplish, even with their heavy burdens.

[@YKR-000]

This is a Certified hood classic

[@wersab5960]

12:36 America had been fighting the wrong enemy - George Patton (later dying from uncertain circumstances

[@valeriomignani1352]

Video: "in east germany the unimployment is 7.1%" TommyKay: "it's pretty high" Man, you should watch how we are doing in Italy💀

[@theeccentrictripper3863]

Neither Germany nor Italy are real countries. Not trying to be a dick but unlike the US who has had a quarter of a millennium to grow and a relatively homogeneous culture during our colonization of the continent both Germany and Italy are frankensteins stitched together by political idealists from peoples who vaguely identify with labels like "Italian" or "German" but would've more likely identified as Neapolitans or Bavarians. So you have these idealized nation-states, that in some cases don't even share the same dialect or political consensus,. being held together by inertia and the geopolitical interests of other nations and not because they would be together organically.

[@aname6794]

@@theeccentrictripper3863 sounds kinda like the US North/South divide lol

[@theeccentrictripper3863]

@@aname6794 No because we were all cast in the same mold that is the New World, we're not clones but we're a lot closer together than say a Venetian and a Sicilian; unless you have a handle on history it's hard to really even digest the staggering levels of cultural divide present just one backyard away in Europe. I don't doubt that say a thousand or two thousand years from now, assuming the internet were to go down, that significant cultural divides would present themselves in a continent as vast as ours, but as of now we just haven't had the time to diverge. It really was a magic moment of several flavors of Euros coming together and more or less ceding their previous identities to assimilate into an entirely new civilization, we probably won't see anything like it again until we colonize space.

[@aname6794]

@@theeccentrictripper3863 That has about 5 words over the limit I'm willing to read

[@valeriomignani1352]

@@theeccentrictripper3863 firtsly we didn't ask, secondly more than 150 years passed from the unification of Italy(and there were a lot of unification movements long before), it's more than enough to obtain a national identity, also if you were to ask to enyone herenin italy what their nationality is they would all say that they are italian(without counting south tirol maybe). There are diffrences between North and South Italy thats for sure but that means nothing, it's like saying therenare big diffrences between Florida' and Los Angeles' people. Also, wtf does it mean that Italy and Germany(or every other country) isn't a country? A country is real if it has a population, a territory, a government and it's recognized by other states, all things that Italy has.

[@henryheinecke2994]

This is a Great video which shows thie very well

[@notthebeastinus2786]

Sounded like East Germany needed protectionist policy to keep their businesses safe. One of the best things for a new or weak country to do, is to implement protectionist policy to build up their native and local industries, so that they can punch above their weight level when they participate in foreign markets. This is what both the US and China did.

[@kelet1724]

As a pole its intresting to see similar problems in Germany, never thought about consequences of Germany being divided.

[@aurelian2641]

Im from former eastern Germany too and I my closest friends are from Poland or Russia. Many things their parents tell me sounds exactly like what my parents and grandma tell me. And culture and value wise they are quite similar, more than people from Bavaria for example.

[@michakrynicki7299]

​@@aurelian2641yea comies was hella drug not plesent tho

[@aurelian2641]

@@michakrynicki7299 they weren’t commies, they were under the rule of commies. My uncle was even protesting in 1989 and my father, who was in a kind of work security militia, refused to go out and fight against the protestors. „My son is out there I ain’t doing shit“

[@michakrynicki7299]

@@aurelian2641 i see ment comunsim in general

[@naapsuvaimne740]

@@aurelian2641 moved to bavaria and what i noticed, 50% of female names are russian names, maria / elviira etc all native russian names

[@Mountbatten_JE]

Isn't Fritz Meinecke from east germany? Or is he not in the top 100?

[@Katejsej]

But Papaplatte is from East Germany, born in Bad Saarow.

[@itriedtochangemynamebutitd5019]

I think Tommy is oversimplified the political aspects of West Germany not investing enough in East Germany, West Germany was having a economic boom before reunification and that went away after unification, this made West Germans as far as I understand, view East Germany as a liability and a waste of resources. If you were a politician from West Germany that wanted to invest in East Germany, you might run the risk of being put out of office if you were too agressive, and could be replaced by someone who doesn't want to invest in East Germany at all. Sure most politicians are lazy at best but public opinion has a significant impact on what politicians try to do. Immigration is a good example.

[@A_reasonable_individual42]

Ya public support is very needed sometimes to enact change and if you don't have it then you are not going to get very far.

[@AnonD38]

Ya, just shows how much the Western shmucks cared about their "Brothers and Sisters from the East"

[@davinnicode]

This. It was a dire situation. Any alternative would also have immense consequences on the people in East Germany. Extremely difficult for politicians to handle such situation. In hindsight I would say the reintigration of East Germany hasn't been that bad as a whole given the circumstances at that time. Of course it will take more decades to further close the gap to west Germany.

[@maverick4761]

From Brandenburg and i can agree!

[@kaanyasin3733]

East Germany was more prosporus During the DDR because it was broken. It was Glass which was suspended by 1mm of Rope. Unification Just pulled down the Glass a Bit and then the Rope broke off. It was unsustainable.

[@thanes1343]

there is on working together anymore.

[@Belbao1992]

did germany reunify? or did west germany annex east germany?

[@Mi-cq8lc]

Hi i like you and your channel very much, I’m from west Germany and i understand your rage, but to say nothing has been done for east Germany was a little bit „emotional“ I would say ! I‘m paying Soli since 1990 😅 and I will until i die 😂. And please compare Leipzig or Dresden with pictures from 1988 with now then you would clearly see, that there has been done a lot a lot 🤞 Keep the fire burning Greetings from Munich 17:43

[@sakul7026]

Und jetzt Google mal nach der Stadt Hoyerswerda um zu lernen was außerhalb der Metropolen passiert ist. Und komm mir nicht mit Soli, den müssen wir genauso zahlen.

[@JustaRandomGuy890]

Tommy is a true East German!

[@Starkiller_G36]

Papaplatte ist doch ost deutscher und mittlerweile einer der größten streamer...

[@notmyself2533]

Why didn’t they sell it to people

[@hirokitakei9272]

Calimove are from Leipzig though !

[@Shiro_.3]

to the guy who wrote "there wouldnt be an eu" if hitler would do his thing no there would be an eu more then 3 countries wanted something like the eu especially poland with the intermarium

[@olabolob]

Re: Hitler butterfly effect. It is worth moving away from concepts of "great man" hsitory, that is to say history being made and forwarded by individuals (alone). Ignores all the underlying issues that allowed him to get there in first place, a situation that may have created another person in his ilk that would have done similar things. That is going into coutnerfactuals but important to consider nontheless when discussing history around big characters

[@habibikebabtheiii2037]

Germany did not get reunified. East Germany was annexed peacefully.

[@brandoncampanaro7571]

So peopke saying profit, yea it is but it took 23 years to see 250k increase in wealth, thats not like crazy, very mediocre ROI for example 100k at 8% increase each year for 20 years is about a million

[@robreich6881]

Yeah, I live in California. Dad’s house went from 200k to 800k in the same time.

[@naapsulusmurmurusmurmurus2392]

so

[@gefallenerengel1306]

imagine soviets power without hitler doing his bullshit

[@anin871]

We are gratefull we have East German Twitch streamer / KZbinr 😊

[@samc2450]

I dont really understand why people are angry at Leipzig, since Leverkusen are owned by Bayer

[@zooziz5724]

I got fee clips in my feed randomly. I'm so confused right now I like what you say but I grew to dislike and distrust Germans so much in these two and a half year that I'm truly confused now :D I'll be cautiously observing more KF your stuff. You don't sound like nationalist , which to my surprise Germans actually are extreme nationalists, I thought given the past they would avoid it, but nope they seem to go ape shit whenever you start talking about nordstreams impact on war in Ukraine and now if you speak about Palestine too. They just go full on Nazi mode and starts blaming everyone else but Germany's action... But this guy, this guy seems to be awre of Germany's flaws. First for me.

[@BrittaKenulla]

Virgin West vs Chad East.

[@naapsuvaimne740]

not only west or east germany, austria should be part of germany, because austrians are germans

[@setokaiba2503]

The Us and Uk just shouldve accepted Stalins proposle for a unified germany

[@teaser6089]

Haahah, no they shouldn't have. I don't want no commies on my doorstep, no thank you

[@aoki6332]

this never happens though the only mention of it was in his note and a brief moment after the unification of Austria but his plan was pretty much unified it and later on influence communism to take over be that time Stalin had already lie about re instating pre war government in the eastern block so the allies had no trust toward it and the allies did not want a repeat of ww1 whit the Weimar Republic the best was to keep it under control and slowly incorporated it into a unified Europe

[@enterfil]

I think it’s crazy how everyone that likes hoi4 literally watches the same channels lmao. Everyone watches tommy ISP TLDR oversimplified and history matters at least lmao.

[@alexion2001]

Is that Kylemc2014 guy a known troll or just a random cause I swear the entire video he just types random ass incorrect shit in chat?

[@gamingthisera6339]

I bet there's nothing to do with religion

[@LNA2008]

BTW Merkel is born in Hamburg her Parents were full Westgermans

[@epitherex]

The situation is a bit akin to the urban ghettos of America. I’m from one. These “post industrial cities” with majority African Americans and immigrants find it difficult to own anything. There is barely any economic prosperity.

[@NYG5]

Because they tolerate crime, crime begets poverty, if crime were not part of the issue then nothing could get in the way of being like indians and asian immigrants, going from laundromat owner to doctors on 2 or 3 generations

[@aoki6332]

its the same almost everywhere look at city like Paris you have the center but if you go pass it and you have place like Grigny whit a 45% poverty rate and it only 15km from the Eiffel Tower its the contrast between the winner of mondialization and its slave

[@suzuakiba372]

If the border never fell, i wouldnt have been born :D My mother was west german and my father was east german

[@JohnOh0701]

North korea is not the same as east germany its much much poorer than an average african country

[@seashore766]

So the west is based and east is cringe

[@robertduluth8994]

Haha y’all found out that socialism is the least worst system then lmao

[@C.A._Old]

*Prussia really forgotten. now these days Prussia Capital is Russian City Kalingrad. its so worst man... gosh... that land need give to back to germany & germans right now.*

[@heathclark318]

I thought it was truly sad to hear him say that... Its German land and a part that is responsible for some of its strongest leaders and could be said the power behind uniting Germany in the first place... That left wing propaganda in Europe is truly insane... To know about Prussia is to mean you are a gamer or Right Wing.... WTF

[@KNNY_-sp6kq]

Nah.

[@neezduts_]

Germans don’t even want it. Plus it’s just 2 million Russians

[@A_reasonable_individual42]

It's not the 19th century,it's never coming back.

[@ukasz-ss2jy]

cry kid, you can take those lands only in hoi4

[@iainarlt7668]

I am half German living in the UK. I speak German and go to Germany regularly. I have travelled around Germany quite a few times. And yet, I have never really been to East Germany. Somehow, despite speaking German, I struggle a little more to understand them. I know so many Germans, and yet only 1 of them is East German. In all ways East Germany feels just a little bit distant to me.

[@cordellmohawk8408]

😂😂😂

[@rfgnmf-nmesofuehsdjfnrmeowfsdz]

why tf do people watch reaction videos

[@Nemisish]

Well at this point, east germany is more german than west germany. How are you doing with your arabic lessons, mr west german? 🤡

[@polszy9701]

7:38 münster knows prussia very good, SC Preussen! Wo Preußen kämpft, da Osna rennt!!

[@huntersleepybrown2988]

germany would start ww2 it was inevitable. The treaty was really fucked up thats why a french genereal fought so hard to get the maginot built. at 12:25 i imagined u grabbed the youtube red bar i cant remeber name

[@technoimperialist9509]

1

[@akacurmurdar1]

Communism kids, not even once.

[@KNNY_-sp6kq]

It’s insane how you didn’t get the video, or even tommys comments, at all.

[@akacurmurdar1]

@@KNNY_-sp6kq It's insane that you did the same thing, or you're pretending to.

[@bigyokes4747]

The video and Tommys comments seem to indicate that Eastern Germanys absorption into the west and it’s capitalist free market system has been to the detriment of the livelihoods of eastern germans. Which is the case. They got f*cked when the state sold everything to predatory financial entities in western germany and beyond.

[@danman101stefan]

@@akacurmurdar1bro, the video is about how capitalism fucked over East Germans. Watch it a little closer.

[@KNNY_-sp6kq]

@@akacurmurdar1 so both Tommy and the video state how the west German government took over the eastern state owned industries and sold all of them off to west German corporations and business men. And your take is that communism is at fault and not the cannibalisation of your own country…

[@KonnigerPL]

Im all for light-right wing and illegal migration restricting parties but man... as a Pole im kinda afraid of right wing geting to rule in Germany 😶

[@davinnicode]

Not happening. The right-wing in Germany has more sympathy for the visegrad countries than the current ruling parties.

[@KonnigerPL]

@@davinnicodeand what if (or mayby they already did) AfD gona talk about the "stolen lands, the real east germany" (Todays western Poland) ?

[@userequaltoNull]

​@@KonnigerPL Then you would have a solid 15-20 years to prepare before the Bundeswehr is rehabilitated to the extent that they could even conquer Denmark lol. You'll be fine, Poland is strong, one of the strongest in Europe.

[@Joel-pi2tt]

So which side supports Palestine? Hmmmmm

[@treylatic8451]

Germany lacks the nationalism and patriotism that it was founded by. Without the love of a nation, and a identitty and culture to back it, it will slowly die and fade away.

[@anderarmould]

They should AT LEAST be allowed to admire Bismark (who was a little left wing for his time)

[@A_reasonable_individual42]

​​@@anderarmouldhe called himself a progressive conservative. I think he did see some use of some left-wing policies.

[@treylatic8451]

​@@anderarmouldyou are right, Bismarck was the definition of what a conservative nationalist German should be. He forged an empire, United a people and created a culture that is still felt to this day. He also established a universal healthcare system the first ever seen in a modern state that's model is still used to this day.

[@davinnicode]

This is very true. Unfortunately, many people in Germany don't believe in it and irrationally think of a "Nazi" resurgence when one makes an attempt in that direction. It left the whole country in a state where politicians could sell out the country for short gains and maintain power in the long run. A feeling of patriotism is needed as basis off which every political decision can be derived. It unites people in the country and foreigners who want to live in that country. If this basis is not built the country remains to be just a weak shell.

[@davinnicode]

@@anderarmould Bismark's contribution is definitely been felt in today's Germany. People know that. Of course only progressive left has a problem with him and his place in history.

[@SlavicGugo]

this division started way before ww2,even relocating to medieval ages when eastern germany was slavic and western germany was christian germanic.