Why Germany, Spain Are Making India a Priority | Taiwan Talks EP501

[@nitinkumar29]

Both of the guests fail to mention even once that the European countries are coming to India because of explosive growth India is seeing and now has more and more money and a huge market. It is not the love of them to give equipment to India but it is love of money because now they know they can get it.

[@anime0965]

Yep. One of them mentioned that France has been a military partner since 90s, but failed to mention that broadly EU was almost hostile towards India due to direct orders from their master - USA.

[@Blixey-r9z]

🤫 just take the money while you can. Just like reselling Russian crude oil to the Europeans 😂. But do remember Bhopal and Union Carbide when you let American corporations flood in.

[@1qmaxg]

the top 1% of india makes 50k usd while top 1% of china make 1.1 million usd. It's not even close.

[@Sumit-Sh]

@@anime0965All this bad attitude towards India, Americans have learned from the British.

[@BadIdeaRight5]

​@@anime0965 eu (nato)( usa )are allies where as india trying to be smart no align country they say😅

[@findabh]

Modi's India? Modi is P.M of India. Elected person. He's not a dictator or supreme leader. *Weird Title*

[@1_Indic_RationalLogicForge]

Chinese mentality 😂

[@silvershroud6263]

He is greatest leader of india. Modi is india

[@ankushzap]

@@silvershroud6263 no India is India. India is people driven not leader driven. Modi is good PM tho.

[@DippinSauc]

Another Modi bhakt. Be a Bharat bhakt instead ​@@silvershroud6263

[@brAmbedkarvadheemusalmaan]

Biden's usa.

[@KK-tc6xq]

Myanmar is NOT the largest buyer of indian arms!!! Incorrect peddling. Largest buyers of indian arms are USA, France and Armenia and Phillipines!!! Get your facts straight

[@prakashkr2214]

China, Russia provides d major defense equipment to Myanmar

[@ddb0831]

What arms does India supply to America and France? Is that a joke?

[@s-qc9ns]

Armenia at the top

[@vishwaranjan7802]

Remember Taiwan Talks media is a puppet of USA. So it's obvious they will make negative narrative for India

[@klstv8084]

Exactly

[@RNDixit-me5uj]

Discuss about India 🇮🇳......Atleast, call some Indian expert??

[@AbhisheksinghbhadauriyaG]

*💯% agree 👍 with U🙋☑️🙏🔊🇮🇳*

[@mowiththeflow4446]

I think they were both fair. Neutral points of view also helps sometimes.

[@pranavgandhar4604]

​@@mowiththeflow4446 call a Chinese on Taiwan issue

[@ankushzap]

@@mowiththeflow4446 Indians too give neutral views. We do not make false lies like many other nations.

[@yugmathakkar4023]

@@mowiththeflow4446 You think an Indian won't give neutral analysis but foreigners will? What even is wrong with you? Bharatiyas know more about themselves than others.

[@captainjsparrow7665]

Analysis on India and you don't have any Indian in panel 😂

[@nacgaming8252]

CCP funded. 😂😂

[@garyguyton7373]

It certainly removes the idea of a pro-India bias. Such confidence in reporting is very important. Such lack of confidence is big reason Trump won by such a huge margin. Nobody believes the MSM here in the US anymore. BTW, I fully support Indian self-sufficiency in their national defense. And I should also mention India's strong defense of Bangladeshi Hindus.

[@Raghuram_2894]

​@@garyguyton7373then why do they have a German? They are also talking about Germany right?

[@anime0965]

The "Indian" expert they have isn't that bright and either way this was pretty neutral discussion. No need to call our stupid experts, especially that guy who can kill you with his blinking eyes😂

[@naturemeditation3751]

very few indian analysts inside taiwan

[@samarthbagwe1736]

The biggest purchaser of Indian weapons has been Armenia

[@ChetanSingh-zd4vz]

Usa

[@nolaserv]

@@ChetanSingh-zd4vz Russia in the past.

[@RudraSingh08309]

President PUTIN is Visiting INDIA Soon and its confirm by Russian Spokesperson . Now the Entire Europe and USA Media and Journalist will call out INDIA on Democracy and freedom Backsliding 😂😂😂😂

[@JoyP09]

Yep, we are well aware of West's behavioural patterns.

[@s-qc9ns]

for sure

[@RudraSingh08309]

I Like how Discussion is DONE on INDIA even without an INDIAN Experts . WTF

[@RudraSingh08309]

​@@SUPERPOWERCHINA_ What does Chinese Eat ?? that leads World to Go on LOCK DOWN and have to develop Vaccines.. WTF "Winni-The-Pooh" 😂😂😂😂

[@TheGreatVivek7]

we superpowerrrr sarrrr

[@TheGreatVivek7]

overly patriotic biharii

[@Pain-zd5uo]

​@@TheGreatVivek7 I bet a bihari does more hardwork than you in your entire life.

[@RealAryanGupta]

​@@TheGreatVivek7 average liberadu😂

[@rdot0les]

Germany blocked tank engine and sale of small arms to India because they were SO CONCERNED ABOUT HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATION lol 😂

[@Abhishek-s1k3g]

lol germany had reduced the dependecncy on chinese economy and increses its ties with india, they increased skill visa from 20,000 to 90,000 per year for indian youth.

[@kabir1934]

​@@Abhishek-s1k3ghe is saying about old past stuff

[@rdot0les]

@@Abhishek-s1k3g they will sanction us again on the basis of their political stand , they aren't a reliable partner

[@sivakumarregulavalasa5903]

India will become 3rd largest economy in next 2yrs...who wants 1.4 billion people economy...that's important.

[@Mike-vt6is]

Only if the world buys into India other wise will continue the same as it has been.

[@vikaskasaudhan900]

No we'll be in 2032

[@atharwamalawade259]

​@@vikaskasaudhan900 not really, according to WTO, India will be the 3rd largest by 2028/29.

[@gautamb0927]

​@atharwamalawade259 no.. according to latest revised UN report, India will become 4th largest gdp economy in 2025 and 3rd by 2026-27

[@Jhon.johnny]

Still people dying hungry... it's 105th rank out of 127 ...

[@41ankitt]

As an Indian I am speaking here .... The primary emphasis of India at the moment is to ' Make in India ' that is why India is developing its own defence industrial base here in India .... at the same time in the wake of Ukraine-Russia war , India is now trying to shift from Russia towards the West .... I think India will rely highly on countries like Germany , France and Spain for the ToT purposes .... having said that France specially holds a significant advantage here as Indo-French defence ties are the oldest among its partners .... India considers France as a more reliable partner then say the US or Germany .... so in short what I am trying to say here is that India might replace Russia with France in the next few decades to come while at the same time trying to go for ' Made in India ' defence products that is what India's action plan at the moment seems to be .... India considers France and Israel to be its major defence partners and tried and tested friends .... 🙏 ....

[@Abhinav-m4o]

In geopolitics u don't have friends Also all come with a price Almost all are US vassals

[@baba-nam-kevalam]

😂

[@Abhinav-m4o]

@@41ankitt Bruh just shut up There are interests only

[@41ankitt]

@@Abhinav-m4o Bruh ! .... Do you talk to your mom like that .... Anyways don't get emotional .... I know everything is transactional so take a chill pill bruh .... 🤙 .... 🙏 ....

[@garyguyton7373]

I would hope India looks well at S. Korea as well. They are making quite a few really good weapons platforms. At less cost, I think, than France, or Germany, etc.

[@Abhinav-m4o]

India is on India's side Want cheap Russian oil for people also will promote renewable energy and also will support western company investment But don't be forced into alliance Both China and US are devils of their own But china India reapproachment is temporarily important for border

[@lastChang]

Marco Rubio red lines to China 🇨🇳: *1. Taiwan:* is an independent country, not a province of China. *2. South China Sea:* Obey UNCLOS and leave SCS. *3. Human rights:* Stop genocide and human rights abuses in Tibet, Xijiang, South Monglia, and Hong Kong. *4. IP thefts:* Stop doing it in any form. *5. Unfair Trading:* 60% tariffs on any Chinese goods either from China or going through sea ports funded by China. *6. Interference:* All forms must be stopped.

[@LunaryLava]

❤❤😍

[@hahawa-g9v]

Rubio is a clown😂

[@BarunKumar-v6t]

Yet they don't forget to lecture India about our democracy and ignore theirs. Also Europe want us to criticize their enemy buy they are comfortable in dealing with our economy. Thats the beauty of Europe 😈

[@obscure2030]

They are hypocrites.

[@Trident4You]

India 🇮🇳 is regaining their Glory Back.

[@TheGreatVivek7]

By slave trading? Because that is basically the signed agreement

[@sureshdharan1]

Poland is lucky to enjoy a relationship with India. It is imperative for EU to know that not everyone carries the same weight. Inside the EU there are 1 or 2 valuable countries and the rest. We need to really get out of the mind sight as our EAM Jaishankar pointed out. Please think PM Modi ji visit to Poland as a gift to Poland.

[@MrHandleVOV]

Love from india for Taiwan peoples❤

[@chandrapradhan8092]

After watching racist comments on India by the Taiwanese minister, I don't care if China take over Taiwan in the coming years 😊😊❤❤❤😊❤❤❤❤

[@s-qc9ns]

They also claim Arunachal is a part of their country

[@chandrapradhan8092]

@s-qc9ns we are capable enough to defend our borders. India 🇮🇳🇮🇳 has 100 billion dollars of defence budget. Think about your country 😂😂😂

[@JIGYASAOJHA]

@@s-qc9ns now there are desperately trying to resolve border issues

[@sanirudha]

My suggestion to Taiwanese friends is to protect & stand for yourself. No one will fight your war for you. Ukraine is a good example, eventually when this war is over, their economy will have gone decades behind the world. The west is still under the imperial hangover. And they will ensure there are constant conflicts in Asia, so we can’t grow and challenge the west’s control of the global economy.

[@Venom-uu1ge]

Nobody asked your opinion, so why you share them, they have their mind.

[@sanirudha]

It’s a KZbin video buddy, people are supposed to comment. That’s the whole point of an open discussion on social media. And just in case you can’t stand the truth, you’re always welcome to be a mute spectator…🙏

[@Tapas82]

​@@Venom-uu1gerundi ko chora yputube tayro baw ko ho ra

[@Venom-uu1ge]

@@sanirudha yes, I know that's why I am saying we don't need to tell them what to do, we can talk about our interest , not their. We will be seen as arrogant, Asian and west are different, their culture teaches them lot about private space and mutual respect. They don't comment on our policy so we should refrain from doing same to them. It's basic etiquette, free speech won't teach you etiquette, culture does.

[@Venom-uu1ge]

@@sanirudha if somebody comment like what you comment for them, our people will say we can take care about ourselves don't tell us what to do. Crux of Geeta is don't do to other what you won't like if done to you. Simple. That's wisdom of people, and thats how country, people and society is judged by other.

[@DevotionalJSR]

rising world power INDIA🎉

[@TheGreatVivek7]

je baat bihari

[@TheGreatVivek7]

we supperpowerrr

[@XinaCCPFreeTibet]

French collaboration with India goes back to 1970s. France hired hundreds of ISRO engineers to work in their Viking engine program. First Indian satellite was launched in 1981 on an Ariane. They helped test the first Indian rocket. India bought mirage 2000 in 1985.

[@AnkurKumar-wo6zz]

Taiwan don't need to think and analyse the India's relation. We remember what have you done to our External affairs ministry, you guys literally saying that we aren't good looking we are unhygienic, so keep distance from India.

[@TheGreatVivek7]

we superpowerrrrr sarrrr

[@TheGreatVivek7]

yes patriotic bihari give it to them

[@Ash-y2o]

I like the way this channel conducts these discussions and delivers news. No sanctimonious bullshit, no sensationalizing from the host and very balanced points of views from the guests.

[@antagonist142]

How do you plan to do analysis on India without calling an Indian expert? are you guys newbies at reporting?

[@ashr55]

As an Indian- I don't really care about Racist Taiwan anymore.🙄 India's business is none of Your business Taiwan. Better mind your own Business and concentrate on making yourself self sufficient - instead of discussing about a Huge nation called India

[@TheGreatVivek7]

yess we superpowerr sarr we don't care

[@TheGreatVivek7]

powerrr running through our veins sarrr

[@Akhilp908]

As an Indian .....Huge support to Taiwan

[@ashr55]

@@Akhilp908 real name se id banane ki toh teri aukaat h nhi bada aya support krne wala 🤡 3 week Pehle tera fke acc bana h 😅

[@Akhilp908]

😭

[@rams5687]

Good analysis and discussions , its good to know the europes prespective of wars and trade. 👍

[@yashpalkapoor4043]

Modi has been made into a very powerful leader by being elected. Modi is a true nationalist and the nation stands with him. Jai Hind

[@gk9257]

USA, france and Armenia are 3 main buyers of indian arms.

[@alphabetagamma12]

Good work, this channel is underrated but doing well!

[@LukeCloud-rh5rz]

Not to mention both countries are vying for a 10 billion dollar submarines contract. Its leverage and an opportunity to advertise which nation should be a preferred Defense exporter even as an alternative to Russia.

[@joeblodontchno5309]

China's economic collapse is fueling social tensions that make people more likely to commit aggresive crimes out of anger or desperation, analysts say. Multiple students were injured after a car crashed into people outside a primary school in central China on November 19, 2024, state news agency Xinhua reported. Eight people expired and 17 others injured in a stabbing attack on a college campus in the eastern Chinese city of Yixing on November 16, 2024. And on Monday (November 11, 2024) the country witnessed its deadliest massacre in a decade, when a man ploughed a car into crowds at a sports complex in the southern city of Zhuhai, expiring 35 and wounding 43, according to official figures. In other cases, a middle-aged man used a kniffee and firearm to expire at least 21 people in eastern Shandong province in February, and a 55-year-old man rammed a car into a crowd in the central city of Changsha in July, expiring eight. A 50-year-old man wounded five in a kniffee attack at a school in Beijing last month; a 37-year-old man fatally sttaabbed three and injured 15 in a Shanghai supermarket in September; and a 44-year-old unemployed man fatally kniffeed a Japanese schoolboy in Shenzhen the same month. High-profile attacks in recent months have rattled a Chinese population. Images & comments circulating online of these incidents are quickly wiped from social media platforms to minimize any perception of social instability. Many online have taken to warning each other to be cautious as people are becoming more desperate and unstable - and taking “revenge against society.”

[@amityadav_6278]

None of the panelists knows anything about india and abt it's foreign policy😂😂

[@dr.sagarguru9356]

Anchor sister....i appreciate your journalism.... greetings from India 🎉

[@extremewing686]

Guess what happened yesterday? Business people from Germany came to India, walking through cotton fields to check the quality of the cotton. They ended up buying cotton at a price of 500 rupees more than the government’s price, and they’re exporting it back to their own country. It’s incredible! I never thought I’d see Westerners in cotton fields of India. It’s all thanks to Modi’s diplomacy. No wonder this never happened before in other regimes.

[@surfaceoftheoesj]

this is india's century

[@ChandrashekharYadav]

Taiwan should not behave like puppet state of uSA otherwise you will have same fate like Ukraine, we Indians want you play safe 😊

[@girdrache]

Ukraine never supported India even before the war due to American policies.

[@victorsamuel8708]

Both the countries are clamoring for defence contracts in india but we Indians always love for Russia but never trusted USA

[@realfinalProphet]

They are here to try and overcome their growing inflation in Europe

[@newsflash4382]

Even though, Taiwan is still quite racist towards india...they think they are more fair , that's why😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Uterlly nonsense panel.

[@ShaktimaanMlbb]

Taiwan is original owner of china. Love from 🇮🇳 ❤

[@Microobserver]

Dear xyz, India's policy is clear - live and let live. India not only believes but also accepts the ideology of 'co-existence'.

[@Dhoundiyal141]

Very nice Taiwan and India best friend

[@NiteshKumar-ue1yp]

The host is kinda cute and it is making the guests nervous. 😅

[@MDBishal265]

Taiwan part of china🇨🇳🇨🇳❤️

[@gajendersing7600]

India will tremendously working superpower country itself

[@ayushbose599]

👍🏼🙏🏼🇮🇳❤️🇪🇺

[@sujitbhagat4352]

#FreeTaiwan from China 🙏

[@vershachaudhary7875]

India 🇮🇳 nice discussion

[@shrenikmehta89]

I see a lot of comments regarding there being no Indian in the panel. I feel the DEI mentality has gone too far. The main consideration should be whether the panel represented India's perspective sincerely and informatively. I feel the long haired person did do that. At the same time, Indians are 1.4B people, so it shouldn't be that difficult to find one for the panel. But I still would like to give them the benefit of doubt considering they presented all perspectives equally.

[@kartrak09]

The largest client of the Indian defence industry is not Myanmar as was incorrectly mentioned at 11:50 but rather Armenia, which has bought a variety of Indian defence products, most built by the Indian private sector.

[@BREAKBALLYT]

experts making their own happiness

[@AlohaKudla]

Money! No other reason. Not a single expert here mentioned that Europe had attitude of putting embargo on India and treated India as one of their colonial states. Even a year ago, Germany treated India very badly. They signed a deal to supply MP6 weapon to Indian special forces and also engines for Indian Light Tank. They reneged on the deal and thought India would beg for a deal with Germany and tow European line w.r.t Russia. India simply developed ASMI to replace MP6 and developed 1500cc engine for their tanks. This has alarmed Germany who are begging for 7B$ submarine deal now.

[@hemant05]

0:00:15 what was that😂

[@AkashKumar-qo3xj]

Totally amazing 🤩😍😂😂😂

[@AkashKumar-qo3xj]

As a Indian i love that❤😂😂😂

[@kumarreaturaj9873]

India doesn't need Europe, Europe needs us. Europe and the West need to stop being hypocritical and be realistic and bit practical about this.

[@BadIdeaRight5]

I still think the winner of all of this is México 🇲🇽

[@dancingnachos3634]

14:40: when did india say this? What i clearly remember is india telling EU to take a hike

[@ApinderSingh-b2c]

Open arms Welcome to india for the European countries yes why not yes

[@neetikakumawat1238]

Why should we be fighting your wars? Racist people fight their own wars afterLl you are so great and important people!

[@punu007]

Europe need a new market, Human Resources and growth . And there comes India which is reliable and non threatening democracy. Win win for all

[@jacobjohn4180]

Huge market for infrastructure

[@pratipkumarroy]

Whenever I see Japanese or Taiwanese news ( few other countries too ), I feel as if the natives are hostages and the foreign visitors on these news channels are their bosses. Strange right. 🤣🤣🤣

[@misty.rizzer]

Being humble is ok bro

[@pratipkumarroy]

@@misty.rizzer The mesage that I wrote is a fact. Research.

[@Artivule]

Last time germany stopped the sale of tank engines to India . I'm sure they won't be getting the subs deal.

[@RmmnPt]

May be moving away from Chima. Cost competitive, and infrastructure in India is improving,. The European market is also shrinking. The world is more connected.

[@Seeker-p1q]

I love your coffee mug. How can I get one? 🙏

[@navnathsurvase3490]

Currently more than 129 million+ people live in poverty which is more than 5 times of Taiwanese population

[@ashuyadav9217]

14:38 what was the Chinese response to the same?

[@Ravi-k7h7o]

India can become EUs best partner on ONE condition ONLY. Make in India with Technologies transfer agreements . Then 1.4 billion marketplace open for EU .Khul ja simsing . Modiji Zindabad. Jai Hind !

[@taipadungpadung924]

India love Taiwan❤

[@LearnwithAbhi011]

No we don't

[@NOTISHANT]

I don't either, they are not trustworthy

[@amel_.s]

@@NOTISHANT taiwan ia better than china

[@NOTISHANT]

@@amel_.s Better? Tum kuchh jante nhi hp

[@amel_.s]

@@NOTISHANT learn history Taiwan has not invaded India. Where as china already has parts of Kashmir. So yeah Taiwan is better

[@lastmanonearth3202]

India is only a good customer. A good market to sell product. Meanwhile china is best product producer. Selling products globally. That's why there's huge difference between economy of india and china. Huge difference in development. Chinise reached the level of well developed european countries and indian cities still look like some town from poor African country.

[@s-qc9ns]

I like watching unbiased news such as Taiwan Talks❣️

[@imyourrealfather-yes]

Dear people in the comments these people dont have a clue what they are talking about nor anything about India. They are just saying anything based on what they "think" about India. Dont waste your time on this video full of misinformation. Im reporting this video and you should too.

[@rdot0les]

Trump will not even get a chance to come into power 😂

[@PRATZP28]

Aimple answer to that question is MONEY!

[@robertprawendowski2850]

⭐️

[@pratikmohite6202]

Why is Taiwan talk so focused on India these days?

[@nitishdubey22]

India being a free market is a very big consumer. That's what all the G7 nations want from India. It's very unfortunate that at present India cannot supply these G7 nations as a producer since India doesn't have a product based economy. And Made in India is a failed project with constant plaster trying to sell it to the global geopolitical situation.

[@TheGreatVivek7]

they want to slave trade lol

[@HIMANSHU79879]

Because apart from spain france germany uk italy are experiencing downfall in growth , shortage of skill manpower, decline population,political instability, there ambition to lead the world is not matched with ground reality. Second you are talking about india without having Indian in the panel. Third everyone wants to be freinds with rising economy to take some benifit. China giving tough time in various aectors to EU is also a cause of this shift.

[@truthsayer5824]

Why did they show the opening very old scene with mob throwing stones ? Taiwan wants to join west in showing India in a bad light. Taiwan , the small country needs the support of India if it wants to protect itself from China.

[@LearnwithAbhi011]

Full support to 🇨🇳 from India 🇮🇳 ❤️

[@Kaka-i7c8l]

❤

[@paritoshsumrao]

no way ! You are in minority my friend

[@vikaskasaudhan900]

No we don't support 🇨🇳

[@74himanshukumar]

Cryna 🇨🇳

[@rdot0les]

Cyna over tiwan anyday 🇨🇳

[@ss10483]

India also Needs EU. We don't have jobs, no money, no food, no petrol. We have Ram Temple but its not giving me food and i cant eat grass because my Cow has priority.

[@nnconfomiststoic888]

You can panhandle near the Ram temple or steal the money people offer to their gods 😊

[@Samjoe4985]

Discussing on India without any Indian Expert😅😂

[@Real_James-esq]

Isn’t EU now buying refined oil (Russian) from India??

[@mandarp9472]

For defense & trade deals i.e sell things to India.

[@obscure2030]

Germany wants strong ties with the Indian defence industry and the country so it can monitor who India sells arms to? And ensure they do not go to undesirable countries? Just the sheer arrogance of these Europeans is mind boggling. Well the Europeans have been very successful at passing on their colonial mentality to the their younger generation. Well they are in for a very unpleasant surprise.

[@KabukiCarnage]

India should not support Taiwan, their stance is the same as CCP when it comes to Tibetan Independence and status of Arunachal Pradesh

[@user_zyzymvb]

international student is big business now

[@kampoengbatoe2699]

For my Indian comrades here, are you still jobless bro? Are you still dreaming of getting a government job? There are plenty of job openings for staffing at the Ukrainian front lines, give it a try bro.

[@ParminderSingh-re4xp]

I am Indian, my biggest worry is if any of this will help the ordinary Indian, it won’t. Corruption is in our blood and no legislation can change it.

[@Satish-vu1uf]

Hary,om,bhagvate,vasudeva,god,and,pray,to,🌹♿

[@gk9257]

11:38 paagal hai kya 😂

[@mnazrulislam6765]

Contradiction of thought from the presenters.

[@eshangupta2379]

🇮🇳

[@tejeshwarsingh4122]

India Taiwan will rork asia

[@Gaurishankardhaked]

We are enemy of chaina.but EU was sleep in past.Eu suport pakistan against India in past time in 1971 India Pak war they send weapons war head nevi Army for supporting pakistan against india.india not forgate mutipal faces of EU and USA.then only Moscow suport India.

[@crazytech3692]

let's call a Chinese on Taiwan topic 😂 u will get their perspective nothing else 😂

[@liang8255]

It's funny the very aged and declined France and Germany are contemplating the Indian and Chinese water?? Lol, get a life, you cannot even stand on your own feet and defend yourself without the Americans in Europe?! Yet you are thinking to meddle between Asian superpowers? It's like going to F1 race with your bicycle, get a life, get real, understand your power at this moment in this world. Stop humiliating yourself.

[@TheGreatVivek7]

talking about F1 are all Chinese drivers equally as bad as Zhou? Maybe he is coming to races with his bicycle.

[@liang8255]

@ is Zhou your daddy? Never heard. It’s 2024, kind funny people are still playing ICB antiques, with a 1.6l diesel?

[@allrounder0143]

Nice try but failed to explain , Good luck for next time

[@official_ritik_chauhan_]

You need more details about india most of your analysis is wrong

[@jineshjillsgeorge]

Myanmar..!? What kind of expert is he 😢