Why Goku vs Tamagami 3 looked so good

[@forgottenrelics1197]

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[@serco258]

It's really nice when something is finally not rushed and overworked

[@forgottenrelics1197]

so rare these days

[@ivoeggetterobotnick3598]

I seen alot of work that isn't rushed or overworked so i disagree but cool pfp​@@forgottenrelics1197

[@AnimeAjay]

With it being your last, I wanted to drop in and say how much I've been enjoying these Daima videos over the past two months. It's rare I find myself tuning in to other people's animation content as it seldom offers me anything new, but you've developed such a unique flavour to your breakdowns that I've walked away each week taking away newfound appreciation for many elements. They've been a delight and I hope you're really proud of them. Hope you enjoy time away and wish you the best of luck in the future! P.S. Sorry Askon and I's back and forth booru changes over the Sasaki scene made you alter your script lol we were trying to work it out and, as you also did, clocked the elements that pointed to Sasaki rather than Manabe in the end.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

Thank you Ajay. I was a bit out of my depth when I first jumped into the animation side of Dragon Ball, but I'm happy that over the years I've been able to find my own voice to channel my love for this medium. But it's also impart to your nuanced perspective and insight found through your videos, that played a part in getting me so interested in it all in the first place! So I'm very grateful for that. I also feel like there's still so much misunderstanding around this medium, as well a general lack of appreciation for it, so I'm happy that you will still be around! It definitely will be nice on my end as well to watch your breakdowns and not have to think about making my own anymore. And all good about the booru confirmation haha. Didn't have to alter much :) All the best and thanks again for the well wishes!

[@skeet1800]

@@forgottenrelics1197 This feels crazy bc I started getting interested in animation with the whole dbs episode 5 fiasco and Totally Not Mark’s top 10 worst and best animated moments of each arc of super. Then I got into AnimeAjay’s vids and kept up with the weekly dbs animation recaps until he went on a break and started working with Mark full time. Your videos were a godsend when Ajay went on hiatus. I liked the variety of stuff you covered and the sense of humor. I’m still a fan of you both and I’m glad to see both of you guys do well. I hope your break does you well and I wish both of you guys success with everything you do in the future.

[@DanielBakerFoster]

Thank you both for all your amazing contributions to this community!

[@garka6135]

Idgaf go fvck yourself You're the next on my list in being cancelled you think we forgot the 2019 incident? Fvvck no

[@FelipeMartins-so3py]

the tamagami triyng the kamehameha at the end is so cool

[@jorgeezequielortiz1974]

you back, lets gooooooooooooooooo, best db youtuber

[@forgottenrelics1197]

i dont feel worthy of that title but thanks G 🧎‍♂🧎‍♂🧎‍♂

[@DrunKao]

​​@@forgottenrelics1197 Why are so many people in the comments saying this is your last video?

[@PolarityOfNeoSoulCity]

We're glad to see you made one more. However many more may come in, we'll enjoy it, and no matter how long it'll take, we'll look forward to the next review when the chance arises.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

bless up 🙏

[@DanielBakerFoster]

The scale of this fight felt colossal! The direction and animation were blown out of the water. Shida's segment stole the show, but I'm really excited to see more from this new rising star of Dragon Ball, Yohei Sasaki! I really love your analysis. I hope you get that promotion, though I’m really going to miss your videos. I’ve learned so much about the world of animation and visual appeal thanks to you.

[@Helix1101]

I really love how you breakdown not just the "bunga" cuts, but also the board, photography, and this time the BG art as well, in exhaustive detail, that I would have never noticed or appreciated without you pointing it out. So sad that you wont do reviews anymore, but I hope your day job works out!!

[@cedric1808]

The colors in the kamehameha front shot were mesmerizing. Reminded me of those metalic effects on the collector cards I used to have as a kid. And that's what I like so much about Daima, it manages to bring back the old school DB / DBZ feel with modern production techniques. I absolutely love it and Toriyama can truly rest in peace

[@stephenkern7503]

Can't wait to enjoy this with some ice cream

[@elijahfredericks4245]

Enjoy your break man. I absolutely love that you cover all aspects of the episode not just the animation. To me, DB has never looked this good since the Broly Movie

[@forgottenrelics1197]

thanks man and definitely agree! it's exciting to have something similar to that level again

[@elijahfredericks4245]

@forgottenrelics1197 I actually wanted to ask your advice on something. I made my own artistic analysis video but I having trouble getting around copyright. I've seen you and anime ajay minimise the video and place some text and graphics around it. I assume thats how you make it fair use, can you please teach me how you do that?

[@amirkenan1]

This fight was near perfection to me and it blew my mind. Wasn’t expecting something like this out of DB. The animation was top notch throughout, choreography was perfect mainly because of how balanced the combat was - grounded hand to hand as well as weapon based combat, great ki/magic attacks, clever usage of the environment, variety of angles and superb camera movement, great sense of scale through the boards and destruction, the visuals also served the narrative and the great compositing also helped to convey that, even the digital CG effects were good and complemented the already incredible effects, like the smoke violently blasting off against the Tamagami. The timing was great, every cut flowed into next seamlessly, nothing felt like wasted padding, everything was so well executed. Top notch direction as a whole, it’s not just the animation. The only thing that’s left to be desired to me was the length, it was great but I wish it would’ve been like a minute or two longer, but that’s me being greedy. 9.5/10

[@sparktaylor8489]

Honestly it's kinda sad to know we won't be getting peak animation breakdown content consistently for who knows how long, but at least we went out with a bang. I do hope if possible once the new year is under way and you get adjusted to your new schedule we could get some monthly videos instead of weekly like we have been getting. Doesn't necessarily have to be daima related, could be whatever you find interesting to talk about (basically what the content was before Daima dropped) who knows maybe finally we get that Gurren Lagann video (all jokes of course) But regardless of what happens, while I am sad it's ending I'm even more happy and proud to have gone through this and seen it all. These videos were of the best of it's class, definitely will come back for rewatches later on

[@forgottenrelics1197]

Thanks again man! Definitely put a lot of energy in so I'm happy to hear that. And funny enough was thinking the same about maybe trying to get stuff out monthly? If its smaller videos it shouldn't be to hard, but at the same time I have several 20-40 minute video scripts half completed that I've put on hold for months so I'm kinda split what direction to go because I reallyyy want to finish them as well 😅

[@sparktaylor8489]

@forgottenrelics1197 well regardless on what road you choose I wish you the best of luck!

[@ahsoka_polo]

I love th way you explain things. I just go my drawing tablet and relearning how to draw. Soon, i will make my own anime, and the way you explain things makes it easier to understand animation

[@forgottenrelics1197]

glad it was helpful! and all the best with your art journey 👍

[@ahsoka_polo]

@forgottenrelics1197 Thank you!

[@animesoundaffects5915]

this fight was just so good I was literally screaming every time throughout the entire fight just because of how awesome it looked yet still feeling like it belongs in Dragon Ball really can’t wait for other more serious fights in the series X3

[@forgottenrelics1197]

fr it was so good

[@animesoundaffects5915]

Sasaki and Otsuka were definitely the highlight for me and of course Shida doing his usual Shida’s thing which is always great. If there was one problem I had with the episode was that the storyboarding in the second half was a little bit flat at times it’s not as bad compared to something like episode five which was both flat and claustrophobic though here it is still a little noticeable

[@soyakat]

Awn man is such a shame this most likely will be your last Daima breakdown:( Was enjoying it so much every week, feeling kinda sad it has to end this soon but oh well it was great while it lasted 😔 happy holidays for you and i hope you can get that job too!

[@lsixty30]

I loved this episode. Time will tell if we are witnessing a classic.

[@lsixty30]

I just realized that this is really the only true sequel to Z. Toriyama clearly wrote a lot of this. Thanks for the detailed animation breakdown, so many names make the one final product.

[@unrecognizably]

@@lsixty30 toriyama wrote super too😟

[@lsixty30]

@@unrecognizably No…. ? He had input but he certainly didn’t write it. You know who Toyataro is right?

[@unrecognizably]

@ toyotaro is the artist. he had nothing to do with the story. my brother in christianity literally just google search it and you will get your answer 😭

[@forgottenrelics1197]

Toriyama wrote rough plot outlines and did some character designs when requested, but generally wasn't behind the actual scripting. It was the movies where he was actively involved in that role

[@gundamuser]

This episode was a joy to watch. I think this might be on my top 5 fav DB fights tbh.

[@Dogflamingo]

3:11 Idk why but it reminds me alot of that scene when Gon makes use of debris to distract Hisoka. There is of course also that scene in the TOP when Frieza and Goku fly through the debris before hitting Jiren in the final battle Gonna miss the Daima breakdowns but happy to know you're still gonna release other breakdowns, good luck with the (hopefully) new job and holidays

[@RamenPerfected]

Gonna miss the reviews bro 😢. No one else does it like you do. Peak content!

[@forgottenrelics1197]

thank you bro. glad it could be ended on a great one tho 🙏

[@RamenPerfected]

@forgottenrelics1197 🫡🫡🫡

[@JuanR322]

I thought I was hearing things but you ARE using a shit ton of Fate music, that's awesome

[@forgottenrelics1197]

yepppp

[@Vespyr_]

They're really using Goku's child size to great effect in the choreography in Daima. it's almost like they really really missed seeing classic Goku and are getting it out of their system now. A parting gift from Toriyama.

[@mechajay3358]

NAOTOSHI SHIDA knocked it out of the park with his cuts. That Kamehameha scene looked so clean and epic.

[@thetisor24]

6:08 that feeling when knee surgery is tomorrow

[@ItsOver9000Productions]

Goddamn it was GLORIO-IUS. And so is this channel. If this is the end, then good luck bro

[@dbzwarrior4321]

Yes your back😭

[@cemeteryhill]

Tremendous work as always. Shame about it being the last but cheers to the Job prospects. Looking forward to your future videos. Peace

[@forgottenrelics1197]

cheer man. thanks for the support

[@pensandoemalgo.5722]

the battle is so good not only because of the animation, but also because Goku is a child, and that allows for this type of choreography, and people still complain about them being turned into a child.

[@Legion849]

People are justified that turning the whole cast into kids is nothing but cheap nostalgia bait for the original Dragon Ball. You can stop the damage control

[@pensandoemalgo.5722]

@Legion849 Literally just the Goku we saw as a child, there is no nostalgia involved with the others being children. And people are more angry about it because it's "GT 2", since the idea of ​​becoming a child was always the only idea that Akira gave for GT, and Toei did it in the worst possible way, so Akira just took it from This idea comes back and he's doing it the right way now, he always wanted to do this idea.

[@AlexSummary]

Daima has been given us the best of what these cooks have to offer.

[@uruloki2758]

I'm gonna miss the weekly animation reviews. Good luck on your new projects man!

[@Dan_2003K]

Thank you for being an intergural part of the Dragon Ball Animation comunity, I and I'm sure many others thank you for your dedication and for the pure love you put into your videos, it has been an absolute pleasure to follow your analysis as always, I wish you the very best in your journey and life in general. ❤❤❤

[@bowiemtl]

I was REALLY happy with this whole sequence, it gives you a taste of what dragon ball is capable of conveying in terms of action and choreography. I was also happy with the TOP so you just know they need to be given time to cook up the series rather than being rushed, dragon ball deserves it at this point.

[@Sp0ntanCombust]

Literally a movie-quality animation, wow!

[@forgottenrelics1197]

definitely something special for real

[@josephaugen247]

I am so glad you did this breakdown before taking a break. Hope you will be back to break down all of Daima!

[@forgottenrelics1197]

i am to haha. it was a great way to end it off!

[@SwastikBiswas-b3r]

9:12 This reminds of Goku going SSJ against Android 19 In that sequence also Goku eyes turned Greenish blue first then this spiked up hair turned blonde

[@MissNorington]

Not going to be easy without your videos. It is hard to find this quality and uniqueness on KZbin. Wish you the best of luck!

[@forgottenrelics1197]

Thanks! I appreciate it :)

[@Agito5V]

Yeah this episode is up there among the best of the franchise. Gonna miss the weekly breakdowns tho, watching you and Ajay after a Daima episode gonna feel different after this. Also love the FGO music choices

[@Nanol-G]

You took all the words out of my mind to explain why this fight scene was one of the best!! Now I love this even more.

[@epnlvr9790]

The only animation breakdowns I watch 🔥

[@Spaceroy80]

Hype aside, in my honest opinion this fight was better than Goku vs Jiren in terms of animation and choreography, and nobody can change my mind

[@kucklowmusic9184]

The moment I saw the animation of the sheen reflecting off Tamagami , I knew it was gonna be one hell of a fight scene 🔥

[@mauricejohnson2351]

Not even a debate

[@forgottenrelics1197]

you might get heat for that take but definitely agree

[@fatpurp4041]

100% this felt more like something from the Broly movie quality-wise

[@specialnewb9821]

Cant agree. But it might just be style since I think Takahashi Buu-like style is peak along with Masunaga off model or Z-styling Kubota. In the end it may be that I just don't like the rounded look. I did rewatch Goku v Jiren on saturday to compare. 130 has clunky bits, but over all because it was longer I was more invested relative to Tamagami.

[@SunGodNikaUsopp]

Goku small body choreography really remind me of Kid Goku, how he struggle to fight big enemy with fun move

[@DimiArt]

People were doubting daima but toriyama really gave us a masterpiece before he passed!

[@gokunenn4243]

? Toriyama had nothing to do with the animation and schedule?

[@DimiArt]

@gokunenn4243 he wrote the story. And so far story wise it's better than both GT and super in my opinion.

[@Kiluei]

Always loved how well made these videos were. Really learned a lot from Forgotten Relics (and AnimeAjay) when it comes to animation. These animation reviews were always top tier and overloaded with great insights and information I never knew before.

[@derock4art608]

I think the rim lighting changes on the character reflecting more of what is in the bg is due to them using a duplicate of the bg and matting it to the characters (which are resized as a matte to be smaller). Certainly effective but actually very simple. I have been working as a compositor for over 4 years now, so I see their tricks haha

[@LizardMan8675309]

This could be the best fight in the series, it was so good between animation and choreography

[@SimonBanquillo]

Last time I watched anime was like 6 years ago, I'm not even watching Daima but these videos have been very entertaining to watch Happy Holidays

[@forgottenrelics1197]

thats soo cool to hear! and hope you have a great holiday season as well :)

[@sandvwexgaming6856]

In the final beam clash the scaling of Goku Kamehameha reminded me of shin Godzillas atomic breath scene. Truly amazing work 14:59

[@mechajay3358]

Awesome Daima breakdown as always and the perfect one to stop on. Good luck with your travels and job opportunity.

[@zekken8227]

Thank you for everything

[@eri5523]

Loved your episode breakdowns man! Honestly I watched the first ep on my own and then saw u were making one for each episode which made me stick with the series coz I would have dropped, I’m just generally not that big into dragon ball but this has been awesome and so have your videos! Keep up the good work and good luck on your new position!

[@vonigner]

Enjoy your holidays, good luck with work

[@milicabojic9434]

Very long episode, almost as long as the episode itself. Amazing video sigma

[@crestofhonor2349]

Why am I hearing Fate/ Grand Order Music in the background? Also glad to see the GOAT Naotoshi Shida

[@forgottenrelics1197]

because it sound cool

[@Cheeto_X]

The glaze is unreal

[@forgottenrelics1197]

it deserved a glazathon

[@specialnewb9821]

A great farewell episode hands down to the best DB animation analyst online. Great scene great work There is one part of the fight I dont get. When Goku is about to bash the Tami from behind with the pole and it flings its right fist up. In the scene it looks like Goku is pointed with momentum in on direction and the next he is turning in another. I rewatched it several times and couldn't figure out the intended movement. He doesnt look like he can end up there from where he starts.

[@redcomet0079]

I’m so happy that toei keeps art design pretty much standard and uniform for every ep. There’s no drop off in animation quality & the viewers appreciate it

[@prxnce6588]

Thanks for all the reviews and wotnot. Been some super good stuff. Gonna miss ya with these reviews but ive already almost watched every other db video youve made a few times over and i prolly will with these. Have a good holiday and good luck on that new job position

[@azimuddin1890]

It indeed looks great!

[@forgottenrelics1197]

for realll

[@jordanglasper1064]

Genuine Lobe and Appreciation

[@fat-gotenks]

Thanks for all of the videos!

[@senpaiedge8673]

Idk if you have an editor or if you edit yourself, but I definitely appreciate Fate Grand Order music in the background.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

no problem! and yeah i edit all my vids that series has a lot of great tracks and they just blended very well

[@Vulcan21]

love the Fate music you used in this video. Good luck on everything with your job and hope you have a great vacation man!!

[@vladline1882]

Daima have this power up with dust and destruction everywhere in SSJ 1.. DBS lacks that intensity like OG does. Heck GT SSJ4 with lighting effects and destruction was epic when Goku transformed to Oozaru before evolving

[@Mobri]

The sound effect for that hammer was so damn clean.

[@erikgt2559]

I was thinking I didn't close FGO for a moment haha, good video!

[@Literallythefusionvegito]

Naotoshi is the goat! 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@rukminikannan9779]

Does anyone realize that tamagami is literally like Thor as a robot, also congrats on your final review bro i have watched every one of you're reviews hope you can do great at your new company!👍

[@azimuddin1890]

I’m thinking if DragonBall (beginning of DragonBall to end of the original manga, Z portion) with this incredible animation and coloring, faithful art-style, and such, be faithful to the manga, it would be a (unrealistic) dream.

[@NoUnboundFreedom]

Unrelated, but whenever we get a lull, I would LOVE to see you break down something from Hajime no Ippo!

[@gokujmo]

muchas Gracias !

[@SensesReview]

Goku did a KAMAHAMAHA Blast like Godzilla.

[@rukawaa2]

Good luck with the new job ! Hopefully you'll return to youtube one day, even if it's in a more once in a while schedule !

[@forgottenrelics1197]

I definitely will. I've put a lot of time into the channel and there's still a lot of videos i want to make, so I'm not going to give it up completely :)

[@rexraptor.]

The buu fight should looks amazing with all the stuff the og buu could do it'll give the animators alot of freedom for creative shots

[@IamJay02]

This fight was absolutely nutty

[@cold_vee802]

if you'd want to, you could write like.. little short reviews in the youtube posts section about the episodes that come out while youre on vacation? of course thats just an idea, if you'd rather focus fully on your vacation there's no problem with that! i just like hearing your thoughts on these episodes (or you could even post a few thoughts on social media!)

[@Kayas]

Great breakdown and a really informative look at timing and scale, but are the music credits right? I don't recall Keita Haga working on the Sea of Stars soundtrack.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

ahh that was a mistake on my part. i had so much Fate ost i genuinely forgot about the Sea of Stars tracks at the end

[@nightlydata2181]

I think Karasawa's style is inherently "robotic"/kinda "mechanical" which isn't bad & honestly would fit somethin like the Tamagami perfectly imo however on more organic/humanoid characters it looks kinda off. The game they played reminded me of the 1 from HxH when Gon is tryin to get Killua back so I loved that a lot. I believe I said this last time too but these have truly been so fun & informative. I loved all these vids so much & I'm sad u couldn't be there for Daima the entire way but it's so good it was on ended 1 of the best DB eps ever. I wish u luck on ur endeavors & enjoy Daima the entire time urself. I hope to C u around some time once more. Thx again & C u🐉🧡

[@muddtheboss415]

When it comes to Yuichi Karasawa's animations, I feel like it works with Dragon Ball, the quick movement without any pause, for me at least, make the characters look like the martial artists they claim to be, they're fast and can execute moves without pausing, as if they read the enemy's movement and thought out what they have to do next in just a microsecond and immediately goes back on the offensive. Then again, I don't know much about animation, but for me, his work works wonderfully for Dragon Ball.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

interesting perspective, i never thought of it like that! but it was just a nitpick. he's still a super skilled animator that deserves a lot more recognition by fans!

[@heizmanboy06]

Wish you the best in moving forward

[@phomolomokete3756]

The fight ends with whats under the cup? XD lmfao

[@phomolomokete3756]

i love it btw, sooo DBZ, like not taking it seriously no matter how jacked up you are. love it

[@forgottenrelics1197]

i said "with a whats under the cup match"

[@BlackDogMizukage]

8:45 I got a few homegirls that do the same for a living

[@Ghost_2_]

Daima animations are very good,this is the last dragon ball that Akira toriyama worked on.😢

[@dargossss]

Thanks for the review! See you in 2014!

[@BooelGaymes]

something i started paying attention to after arcane is weapons weight and i loved how you can literally fell the hammer and the tamagami weight and size

[@riqopowpow]

Idk if it was good tho The GT Ki Blast choreography it's hard to top.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

Real talk

[@harryk302]

GOAT

[@Karianysu]

The budget they made with DBS Broly and Super Hero is put on display!

[@razzleanimation]

its not budget, its time

[@Karianysu]

@razzleanimation okay, but how do you buy time? With budget. You get the good animators and schedule. Maneeey

[@razzleanimation]

​@@Karianysu you cant "buy time" they're taking a risk delaying the show being released with the hope that a better end product would yield better income. The trashy early seasons of dragon ball super were ironically more expensive because a lot of work had to be outsourced to other studios to get episodes done on time. Here more work is done in house making it typically cheaper.

[@luisavalos4415]

Bro it is 2024. It’s not budget.

[@letsgobrandon1906]

They’ve been had the money. One piece is also making toei lots of money year round

[@rataqueso2307]

For the crazy animation episodes can you still do this type of videos please?

[@jovyrivera7055]

I loved the fight in Daima being more clean, closer to DBS Broly movie, But I think DB Super makig the top arc with full of fights makes it understandable for that massive anime to have very few noticeable moments in the fights

[@godartz3064]

Hope you get the position

[@ManuelAlejandroVargas]

The best Dragon Ball fight since Vegeta vs Broly

[@crestofhonor2349]

Nah my favorite cut from that movie is the Ryo Onishi portion of Goku vs Broly

[@vinayak90417]

Broly movie had absolutely no choreography..it was just..yayayayayayaya..with cuts😂

[@ManuelAlejandroVargas]

@@vinayak90417 I disagree.

[@NFiniteCombos]

I wanted to hate daima so much but it's really good. Not a fan of turning everything into children or this cocomelon demon world, but the animation is insane. This is the animation we should've gotten from super. Super needs to match this animation moving forward into moro arc. We shouldn't only use this level of animation on daima. Apply it to all Dragonballs until you make something better. This style makes me feel like a kid again

[@realgrim6239]

It just felt good after a lot of dbs fights didn’t really had choreography and kept reusing the same animation many times especially in tournament of power but with this there actually was choreography and the animation just looked so clean consistently

[@vinayak90417]

Each and every episode looks good in diama lol

[@0.Tablos_af]

Nooooooo, I'm watching you from Colombia and I don't have the option to put the video subtitled in Spanish 😭😭

[@forgottenrelics1197]

ahhh i just checked and KZbin said it would take 6 hours to process it Auto Subtitles💀 im guessing because it's a 20 minute video there's a delay

[@parrotlord7393]

13:51 I wish they had this type of animation in super it’s soooo goood I was creaming in my pants

[@forgottenrelics1197]

its excellent aye! the animator behind it did do key animation here and there on Super, so you can find some similar stuff stylistically to it there. but nothing as lengthy as this from memory.

[@Lingel-Sama]

I really hope that from now on Dragonball will be seasonal.

[@sznobu]

This was "just" a "mini Boss" fight. We have still Tamagami 2 and 1 AND probably a all vs all fight (where Piccolo, Goku, Shin, Vegeta etc. will fight against the antagonist) and THE then probably the 1v1 climax of the series. Now Imagine how the pinnacle of this series will look like.

[@Kiluei]

I hope there also will be a creative fight against Gomah. Would be amazing if they had him do some creative magic stuff. Babidi for example teleporting everyone to different planets to fight was also pretty interesting in the Buu arc. Maybe something like that, but with its own twist.

[@Nocoslim]

I love diama

[@OliverKlaus-fs7mp]

How's the promotion working out for ya?

[@forgottenrelics1197]

haven't technically got it yet. its dependent on several buildings our business is putting up so i'll know by early January when construction should be completed.