Why has UK Immigration Gone Up Since Brexit?

[@beard-bear-420]

The idea that Boris Johnson actually increased net immigration is beautifully ironic 😂

[@aituk]

Cos he's a liberal tory

[@LabRat6619]

That wank sock doesn't care about anything but himself.

[@ryantate6447]

I wouldn't b laughing as it's the poorest communities that will changed and affected by this

[@larsboobies615]

Yeah its so great thats the libs keeping conning and ignoring the mass public. Hasn't so far resulted in anything say like brexit, donald trump, borris... Im sure it will continue to be all rosey from hear on too

[@BernasLL]

​@@ryantate6447 Those that voted for a known conman, sadly deserve it. Just hoping UK learned a lesson here.

[@mattiiful]

Everyone that voted for Brexit with stopping immigration as their main driving factor gives a surprise Pikachu face when you tell them immigration didn't stop, just EU immigration stopped

[@reahthorolund8373]

It's almost like we don't live in a democratic country.

[@danunpronounceable8559]

This is more a failure of the Tories than Brexit...hopefully a true conservative party can come about with actual conservative immigration policies

[@ComanderSazabi2000]

@@danunpronounceable8559 A true Conservative party would spell the economic doom of the UK lmao. No brits are willing to do the back breaking labour of picking fruits and dredge work. And there's probably not enough smarts Brits to fill all the vacancies of specialists jobs

[@LabRat6619]

​@@danunpronounceable8559 they aren't Conservative, they work for WEF

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

Yeah but if racism was your motivator you wanted to stop brown people coming in....wait...

[@phoeniximperator]

The irony is if Britain hadn't left the EU they would be blaming the EU for all of its troubles

[@cosmedelustrac5842]

Indeed.

[@Anri6547]

Huh ?😳 they do it anyways 😂 or they blame things that have the name “European” in it 😂😂😂

[@joeblogs6598]

Brexit got rid of one bureaucracy, but the local bureaucracy is still here. This is the cause of our troubles.

[@mickeythompson9537]

But UK in EU would have had far fewer troubles...

[@apb2081]

@@joeblogs6598 brexit means more bureaucracy more red tape, brexit growing fiasco lol

[@lookingforsomething]

It's kind of funny in a sad way how now with Brexit the UK does all the same things as before, but many at much higher cost and with extra bureaucracy. If only someone had said Brexit would be a disaster.

[@LevisH21]

reality check to you, countries in the EU don't do all that great either. because of COVID and also because of mass migration of "refugees". this is why the "far-right" has been on the rise over the last decade.

[@LabRat6619]

I think they did.

[@Welgeldiguniekalias]

If only there had been an official report from HM Treasury detailing just how harmful a hard Brexit would be. Oh well.

[@olsenfernandes3634]

If only they told us that increasing fishing at the cost of being in the EU was not worth it.

[@joeblogs6598]

Cause of these problems are our own government. If we didn't have traitors running the country, there wouldn't be any problem.

[@Llkc60]

As an Eastern European, I'm happy to see less workers going there that we need here. Thanks again Britain 👍

[@bigbarry8343]

We are really Central Europeans. They call us here "Eastern" as a remnant of the once hated "Eastern Block" (which btw they themselves created in Teheran in 1941). It resonates well with 50+ population who remember the cold war rhetoric.

[@Llkc60]

@@bigbarry8343 yeah, I had the opportunity to study the geopolitical nomenclature of the area you mean. I don't find anything offensive about being called an eastern European. East and West are a matter of perspective, and there's way too much emphasis on labels for my taste. The important thing is whether the 'area' is developing at a sufficient pace or not, what do I care that I'm called central when I'm left behind

[@Jajalaatmaar]

Do you notice less people leaving, generally, as the Eastern EU economy grows harder than the west?

[@octavianpopescu4776]

@@bigbarry8343 I'm actually proud to be Eastern European. We survived through decades of dictatorship and defeated it, so I see it as a title of honor: we're survivors, we persevered and in the end, we won. Plus, our women are more beautiful. 😀

[@bigbarry8343]

@@octavianpopescu4776 This term is geographically accurate for Romania (guessing) but not for Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland and Dalmatian coast. I also know and love eastern Europe however here in UK this term is meant as an opposite of "civilised" and its used as offensive.

[@handbanana4899]

I like how the Brilliant advertising jingle has gone from "You know what the most successful politicians in the world have in common?" to "Wouldn't it be great if politicians used Brilliant instead of thinking with their asses?"

[@noeyes6151]

Maybe if they thought with their asses it would be a more honest result

[@cosmedelustrac5842]

At least the Tories Can no longer use the EU as a scapegoat for immigration.

[@stanisawzokiewski3308]

Well a little bit. The French agreed to stop migrants from crossing the chunnel and did nothing.

[@Munnmaista]

They still will. They'll just lie

[@dszxnavtiisx6384]

@@stanisawzokiewski3308 why should France help a traitor of their union? it only benefits the EU if the Brexit goes as bad as possible because than no other country will have the idea to leave like the UK. Have you noticed one thing? the right wing parties in europe have changed since Brexit, no more "get out of the EU" mentality in europe anymore look at italy they have a right wing prime minister but they have no plans of leaving the EU

[@yudistiraliem135]

Did you watched the videos? The immigrants are exactly people that were asked by Brits to come and stay. That’s how they got their work visa and why most of them are in healthcare which was lacking workers for decades

[@maartenaalsmeer]

@@stanisawzokiewski3308 Silly Stan. They DID when the UK was in the EU. Why would France do it now? EU is under no obligation to a Third country, which is what the UK is now.

[@blargl121]

Brexit has been ironic and contradictory since Day 1

[@aituk]

To people who don't understand or wilfully misrepresent what it was. Brexit just means we get to choose our immigration policy, if a government chooses to increase migration that's still our choice.

[@scarletcrusade77]

I voted leave and regret so much every day it continues. I want another referendum to rejoin

[@Bushflare]

@@aituk To be fair, our choice was to elect Tories, not to increase immigration. Increasing immigration was *their* choice, and British liberals and conservatives are getting extremely tired of the Tories’ way of doing things.

[@ihmpall]

@@aituk lol you owned the libs with Brexit enjoyy being poor and 10% inflation

[@aituk]

@@scarletcrusade77 Why do you regret voting to leave?

[@pisquared1827]

So let me get this straight: 1. Illegal immigration went up because the Tory brexit because we couldn't repatriate illegal immigrations (who mostly come via France) because France/the EU has no longer any obligation to take them back as they did before. 2. Legal immigration went up because the Tory MPs decided to adopt an Australian points based immigration in place of the requirement that immigrants had to have an offer of a job first. This is not surprising because the aim of the Australian points based immigration system is to encourage immigration, and that is exactly what it has done in the UK, much to the rather dopey Tory party's chagrin. 3. EU based migrant workers previously only came to UK for a short period to do seasonal work on farms, and they would go to other parts of the EU to do seasonal work there the rest of the year. The stopping of free movement of EU migrant workers means that temporary migrant workers have now become permanent immigrants. 4. Students come to UK on student visas which are temporary, as is the two years they are allowed to gain work experience before they have to leave. They are therefore not immigrants, and should not therefore not be counted as immigrants - Oh wait a minute, the Tory home office don't bother tracking people on temporary visas, and don't process visa applications, or expired visas in a timely manner, and so can't enforce return of people who have overstayed their visa. So just like in every other field of human endevour, Tory stupidity and incompetence leaves its mark.

[@vertigo2894]

I TOLD THE BREXITEERS! Leaving the EU won't lead to less immigration, it will just lead to less immigration from fellow European countries. Is this what you wanted you muppets? Idiots!

[@mabamabam]

The "Australian points based system" is particularly hilarious. Australia has a massively bigger immigration programme. Australias whole economic system is based on importing more and more people very single year. Anyone silly enough to think an "australian system" means fewer migrants deserves their housing shortage and falling wages.

[@Arltratlo]

never forget, the UK is holding all cards.... i dont know which game they playing??

[@dazzlerweb]

@@Arltratlo Solitaire.

[@markbennett945]

I think the Tories are quite happy about this immigration, after all, thier business supporters are no doubt very happy to be able to get lots of cheap, uncomplaining and non-unionised labour. I suspect the real reason for leaving the EU was to repeal all the EU laws regarding worker rights and safety, as well as those requiring companies to be honest about thier products e.g. sausages full of bread and fat etc.

[@axelstryder3073]

Brexit is the best gift the UK could have given Brussels to strenghten the EU. Thanks chaps!

[@KSH91]

No worries! As usual we are saving Europe 🤣

[@crymp2057]

Not neccessarily. Most european countries (would) have benefited with even closer economic ties to the uk (still a big economy overall). From a political balance side of view, the UK generally tended to vote similarly to countries like Germany and France relative to many of the smaller countries... it leaving therefore also slightly shifted the representation of e.g. German interests (though this somewhat minor though). That said I still think the EU suffered far less compared to the UK, and it did somewhat shut up various independence movements since Brexit now serves as an embarrassing example of what independence means...

[@imastaycool]

​@@KSH91 you little Englanders save nothing but you cause everything harmful

[@Arltratlo]

i really love the Brexshit, did you saw how many companies are setup in the Netherlands, giving jobs to Dutch, Europeans and legal immigrants.... while on the other hand, the people who voted for Brexshit get booted....!

[@jrh7741]

@@crymp2057little englander 😂😂😂😂

[@Balance275]

Boris Johnson introducing one of the most liberal immigration policies ever was a fun plot twist

[@bigbarry8343]

This would mean nothing if it wasn't coupled with DEI policies.

[@obscurehuntsman613]

"Liberal" in what sense?

[@shukracharya_]

@@obscurehuntsman613 merit based

[@AbdulGoodLooks]

@@obscurehuntsman613 Liberal as in it only looks at skills, education and work experience instead of skin color, nationality, ethnicity.

[@stanisawzokiewski3308]

@@obscurehuntsman613 liberal as in no point system just letting everyone in and barely deporting anyone

[@Welgeldiguniekalias]

2016: We hold all the cards. Everyone will immediately benefit from Brexit. Cheaper shoes! 😎 2019: EU is being unreasonable, but at least we will reduce immigration. 😡 2023: It was fully apparent to everyone that we voted to be poorer in exchange for sovereignty. 😭

[@TheWebstaff]

And we will happily trade sovereignty for aligned trading agreements with the EU to increase trade. So what did we get exactly?...

[@thatonejoey1847]

And they didn't even get sovereignty because they became and even more irrelevant backwater that still heavily depends on foreign trade to survive but now that trade is much more expensive and leaves it at the whims of becoming an economic puppet of a large nation

[@olsenfernandes3634]

Yes, to get back the sovereignty that we never lost in the first place.

[@windwaker0rules]

Can't wait for 2025 when you give your army to the USA.

[@kimwit1307]

brexiteers are still drunk on their sovereign tea...

[@madmadagascar]

I lived in London for 5 months in 2008 and worked at a bar. Usually the first question i got asked was if i was Polish. After i said i wasnt, some people were a little bit friendlier but barely. Never felt welcome there unfortunately. All my friends were Aussie, Kiwi or other Europeans.

[@bigbarry8343]

Interesting you'd say that. I was seeing Polish people working in shops and bars before 2012, but after the Brexit campaign started, they largely disappeared from customer facing roles. I've experienced a lot of hostility, but I'd assumed that it was because of my personal traits rather than nationality and race. Its good to know it wasn't just me.

[@maywalker997]

@@bigbarry8343 It's because the Right-wing media constantly brainwashed people to believe that most of the countries problems were basically (one way or ther other) the fault of immigrants and the Left-wing parties who "allowed" immigration to rise. Now we are experiencing the fallout of realizing that the problems in this country were always down to the incompetance of our politicians (whose incompetance far exceeds all known expectations). It really sucks because as a young person, I and most other young people did not want Brexit because we were always a lot more in-touch with it the EU's benefits (for example, all the exchange and educational programs) and we feel like the old people sold out our futures because of their barely disguised xenophobia and rampant misunderstandings of basic facts.

[@WARGODS-ez1bu]

Racism towards fellow europeans was the underlying reason for brexit, they are poorer now, flooded with unskilled 3rd world countries workforce, the factories shut down on a alarming rate, exports are bad, manufacturing is collapsing etc. All because of racism

[@abdell75roussos]

I would say that you are very welcome.

[@africanqueenmo]

This is the elephant in the room that many will never talk about.

[@oscarmachado9607]

Another aspect that makes a difference is that before Brexit a lot of the immigration from the EU was of people that in large numbers came temporarily. I knew numerous people from several EU countries that would come stay a few years, imprive their English, gained experience and then went back to their countries after a few years. Especially after weddings, or starting a family many would leave. Now I NEVER met a single non-EU immigrant that once they make it to the UK will want to leave. Most of them come from third world places like India, Pakistan or African countries. They struggled to get a Visa to be able to get in the UK. They accept being underpaid because their employment is tied to a visa sponsorship - leave the job and you have to leave the country - they will stay their 5 years on visa, immediately apply for permanent residence after 5 years and by year 6 they are all applying for a British passport so they can never be forced to leave, nor they will ever want to. And once they have the passport they will start bringing the rest of the family in on dependent visa from their country. That is something that no EU immigrants before Brexit would normally do. Most would save some money, buy a house in their own country and wiuld never be seen in the UK again.

[@nostro1940]

Are you portuguese? Indians are now invading portugal and doing exactly what you described but after getting the citizenship, they then move to richer countries

[@nanadecarvalho7840]

@@nostro1940I live in an African country and I’m seeing an increase of Indian immigrants here as well, it’s like a plague. They open companies here and working for them is AWFUL, the people who rent houses to them often complain that they leave the houses extremely dirty and bring tons of kids they don’t watch over. It’s wild.

[@ShadKhan]

@@nanadecarvalho7840 f--ckign racist

[@fepor234torres7]

Yeah, thats what all my friend used to do, now im in London waiting for my Status, work here until i have enough money to buy a house in Spain, and forget about UK

[@jaymareachealee3351]

​@@nanadecarvalho7840idi Amin expelled Indians from Uganda. The Ugandan economy collapsed and even now the Ugandan politicians will categorically state that it was a huge mistake expelling the Indians. So you live in an African country. What is the top African country to live in ? Mauritius. Do your research and you will find out why Mauritius is at the top.

[@v.sandrone4268]

as an Australian, I support our approach to poach trained professionals from the UK and the numbers are increasing every year.

[@Bandi2024]

Yeah, people should go there. No point to stay in UK - it will be a Muslim country in next decade or so.

[@Ak-bs1wd]

​@@Bandi2024but ma'am, that's what these people from 3rd nations wanted. Should british people not put up a fight atleast against them than to simply give your their country over to these shits. I mean your culture, customs, hard work of your ancestors everything is at stake. I'm not british but can very much relate to what you people are going through 😢.

[@5556665012008]

Immigration is mostly based on the economy's demand for cheap labour. I spoke to a lot of people from various African countries (mosy spoke both French and English) before the brexit vote. Generally they wanted brexit to go ahead because they would get a share of the jobs previously done by Europeans.

[@razahussain860]

Well nope, Africans and people from Indian subcontinent did not want Brexit. Under EU freedom of movement it much easier to migrate to the UK via FOM. So a EU citizen say from Italy who had family in Nigeria could bring them all into the UK via the FOM. Not only his wife and children but also his mum, dad adult brother and sister, brother in law etc. All the Italian had to just show he was working for 3 months.

[@shzarmai]

@@razahussain860 Exactly, I wanted the UK to stay in the EU 🇪🇺 but here we are with all the "gifts" of brexit for everyone to see......

[@Arltratlo]

@@razahussain860 and now, the Brits can stay 90 days in 180 days in the EU...that sound really good, if you dont like the Brits!

[@daisiesandpandas1218]

You spoke to "a lot of people from various African countries"...

[@Madame702]

You have to understand to have a "Industrial lifestyle" your country must have Food, Coal, Oil and Iron ore in great abundance. You Brits don't, you live on Island with very limited resources don't get me wrong you had powerful City States but to be a rich industrial nation you must have these in great abundance to which you don't have.

[@shemthom31]

As a non EU student Brexit made the UK much easier to come to. Idk what they’re thinking. Brexit means European students pay the same high fees as international students and why would they do that when they can stay in their home country. Sooo no Europeans in the UK and don’t mention the workers and lost business

[@WARGODS-ez1bu]

There's much more than money, Uk was perceived as a progressist country and given many times example like "As they do in UK", "They are ahead", "Business oriented", "They are open" etc. Why would any EU student even want to set foot in the UK after this racism

[@philipknowles2912]

The point was made time and again that immigration would increase after Brexit - that we would need to fill all the vacancies created by departing EU workers with workers from non-EU countries. That was airily dismissed as "Project Fear". Yet here we are.

[@Arltratlo]

at least, none of them have a EU passport!

[@Essie-Cakes]

Never ever has a country kicked itself in the face harder than UK with Brexit.

[@KSH91]

Thanks to all the Brexit voters who didn't have a clue what they where voting for. 🙃

[@danunpronounceable8559]

No-one from remain camp were saying that immigration would rise after leaving the EU

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

​@@danunpronounceable8559true but only brexiteers were saying itd go down

[@RealConstructor]

@BTAxis I know. My female colleague once said she voted for the Labour Party because the leader had a nice ass, really. I’m not English by the way. A lot of people vote for someone because he/she looks handsome/pretty, or live in the same town or province, not for his/her politics, motivations or standpoints. Personal or party wise. Voters are strange people 😊.

[@ltmund]

If only the EU had a different policy to "no negotiation until notification" then the UK would have known...

[@blablup1214]

@@ltmund You know that those negotiations were expensive ? There was a team of experts dedicated only to the UK You can't just set aside those resources for people that want to know what if....

[@phil2544]

If only someone had said that Brexit wouldn't work 🤔🤔

[@aituk]

How is brexit not working?

[@Vonononie]

That’s just project fear…

[@ihmpall]

@@aituk lol old people in denial

[@aituk]

@@ihmpall I'm not old. I'm just asking a question. A question I've asked many a time and usually can't get an answer cos ardent remoaners are generally thick and don't understand brexit, the TCA or how the country works in general. They just read the Guardian.

[@parametr]

Only the experts, the scientist/engineer/gp/etc, ... You know, the smart people. But what the heck, "we are fed up of listening experts".

[@josephinenilsson1541]

I’m a Swede with a degree in finance who have dreamt of moving to London all my life (both my mother and my grandmother have lived there in the 60’s and the 80’s respectively, and my grandmothers sister, who I was very close to, lived there until she died in the 90’s, so I feel very close to London). Brexit happened about a year before I graduated from one of the worlds top 100 universities (Lund). Evidently I am the kind of immigrant who is not welcome in the UK.

[@koo235]

Maybe after getting some experience you might be an ideal candidate

[@jarihaukilahti]

@@koo235 In the 1980s eg our 1900s eg 40 years ago the market invented that someone with no connection fresh from school or edjucation needed 10 years experince to apply for wanted jobs -Guess who they went to -not to those who needed them -same in uk i guess

[@learnjazzmusic]

Forget the UK... after Brexit, lots of great places for business in the EU.

[@User-he6zd]

What do you mean not welcome in the UK? The UK is one of the most welcoming nations in the world to migrants, especially skilled ones who speak the language

[@josephinenilsson1541]

@User-he6zd I’m really surprised at how all of the people who responded to my comment so far seem to have not understood it. Did you watch the video? I am an EU-citizen, and those are basically the only migrants that Brexit has shut out. I noticed it particularly because it altered my own plans of moving to London greatly. Of course it’s not impossible, but a _lot_ more difficult now that movement isn’t free for other EU-citizens anymore. Before Brexit, I could basically save up some money, pack my stuff, go to London and look for jobs in finance. Now it’s a lot more complicated and difficult. I was just pointing out the irony that the people you’ve managed to shut out is people like me: a high educated Swede. So, you know, congrats on that.

[@llanieliowe794]

This country is literally tearing itself to shreds more and more every day.

[@BoxStudioExecutive]

To shreds, you say?

[@bloodfiredrake7259]

How so?

[@piedrablanca1942]

karma time anglo bitches

[@imastaycool]

​@@bloodfiredrake7259 Britain and even the UK as a whole is disunited politically, socially, culturally and linguistically. The poor political choices and decisions of Brexit have made the lack of unity ever clearer for the entire world to see. It's not just disunited, it's also completely imbalanced. Politically, it has devolved governments, but most of the power lies in Tory Westminster which has the UK at political loggerheads. These devolved governments squabble and fight amongst each other which details the disunity. Brexit was divisive and it shows how disunited the UK is with the occupied region called "Northern Ireland" and the country of Scotland voting No to Brexit. The UK is literally split down the middle in the Brexit debacle which makes it politically disunited. Furthermore, the UK isn't a voluntary union because Scotland is actively being denied another independence referendum post Brexit - this, again, makes it a disunited partnership + an imbalanced and undemocratic one. Welsh and Scottish independence is growing while talks of Irish reunification are on everyone's lips - this, again, demonstrates a disunited and imbalanced union. Socially, culturally and linguistically it is also divided and disunited as the different parts have their own culture and language + Britain has become increasingly "British Asian". Brexit itself limits multiculturalism and encourages exclusive nationalism and nativism which in effect breeds racism and xenophobia (the very core of Brexit and Brexiteers). Try convincing yourself that Grim Britain is united, but it's DISUNITED and IMBALANCED as well as UNDEMOCRATIC and UNJUST. And it's actively breaking up which is the ultimate win 😅

[@mikemartin6748]

Tearing itself to shreds? They're accepting the best and brightest from around the world! They're building a better country

[@aituk]

Short version: Being in the EU ensured we had no way to effectively control EU migration. Now we have left we have complete control over our immigration policy and the Tories have decided to reduce immigration restrictions near entirely hence we have a record number of people coming here.

[@balsdsa]

insane innit, god...

[@aituk]

@@balsdsa It's like they want to lose the next election.

[@dimitri502]

EU freedom of movement was the perfect system. People came here to fill empty job positions when they arrised without a bureaucratic top down points system that's always lagging behind demand. They were young and healthy and often retired back home putting stress on their local health system instead of the NHS. London used to attract the EU's best and brightest. The average EU citizen paid £2300 yearly to HMRC more than the average Brit. In contrast the average rest of the world migrant was a small net negative (one has to assume because of education levels and the number of dependants).

[@rmenfrance7065]

What Absolute bollocks. EU Freedom of movement only lasts three months thereafter you have to apply for residency in that member state, where you have to prove you are criminal record free, prove minimum income, prove private health care and give you finger prints...UK as a member could of done this but chose not to!!!!... Now crying about consequence of your actions... could of, should of, didn't!!!

[@gavinjones3933]

Immigration helps plug chronic skills shortages. Plus… Rhetorically targeting immigrants plays well to a significant, and gobby, slab of voters. Given these two factors, why would a cynical government risk doing anything which might actually lower immigration numbers? It’s not a good idea practically, and you lose a readymade scapegoat/diversion.

[@Evenst3vn]

I went to London recently, last time I'd been was in 2015. I noticed way more non-European immigrants this time around, was actually shocked about that considering Brexit was supposed to reduce immigration. The UK also recently granted visa-free access to various countries in Latin American so they're probably getting a surge in visa overstays as well (I'm gonna guess this is intentional).

[@Arltratlo]

i have been to London in 2015, too... i left the tube at Castell & Elephant and thought i missed a turn and came out in Africa....

[@SP95]

Brexit or not the third world keeps growing and invading, the same would have happened regardless.

[@Stinkmeaner420]

@@Arltratlo it's elephant and castle, you twazzock

[@tawanamukasa9498]

@@Arltratlo do you mean elephant and castle? and which country in Africa are you referring to🤣

[@Arltratlo]

@@tawanamukasa9498 hm, south africa maybe, same language! i can remember the castle been on the top of the elephant... so castle and elephant, but thats in the UK, they also drive on the wrong side of the road!

[@piotrjasielski]

Replace skilled EU workers with not skilled non-Eu workers. Clever plan.

[@jasonhaven7170]

Good either way

[@thatonejoey1847]

@@jasonhaven7170 the spike in knife crime in London from non Europeans proves otherwise. Also the strain in the NHS from unskilled workers not contributing enough also proves other wise

[@TheMercifulKnight]

It's massive in London. Everyone is foreign and non-EU. This is just another Con plan to lower wages and it's working very well.

[@thatdudebello]

Are you blaming UK knife crime on immigration over the past 2 years 😂😂😂 do you even think before you type lool

[@Da1Dez]

Either way, Brits are still out of work.

[@spiritualanarchist8162]

Brexit is the example how one must be careful what you wish for. Brexit voters wanted less Europeans, and that's what they got. And then they ended up with twice as much non -Europeans . I somehow doubt that's what Brexit voters wanted 😅

[@razahussain860]

Yes people from the commenwealth have come as they did in 1960s. The problem with the EU is that it full of unelected comissioners who control the all of Europe. The will not last long, and European people will be free of this monster.

[@Arltratlo]

that was exactly they wanted, EU citizens knbow they have rights, immigrants from poor countries you casn trat as shit, because you tell them they dont have rights.... and after the UK left the ECHR they will reestablish slavery, for white and none white people!

[@screenname1]

You don't know what you're talking about.

[@kayla-Rey22]

@@screenname1 : Well, obviously not. Every single person who comments on here thinks they know what they're talking about and no one else does. I would say that absolutely no one on here knows what they're talking about. That is probably nearer the mark. It is KZbin after all. And, yes, you can include me in that if you so wish.

[@WARGODS-ez1bu]

Brexiters were pure racists, that was the underlying reason for all of this, I'm sure. I wish them good luck with 3rd world ba/boons

[@rochester212]

As a former romanian seasonal worker in the UK i want to say i am happy to not having to go back there. I am sure all the muslim immigrants will gladly do the jobs european workers used to do, like picking fruit and other back breaking labour. Although i never saw muslim immigrants in warehouses or on the fields, they avoided manual labour. But i guess they must be doing something, since millions are coming into the country.

[@KandaEzana]

I visited London for the first time in April. Whitechapel looks like it's in Pakistan

[@AureIius]

​@@KandaEzanaWhitechapel looked the same 15 years ago

[@LS-xs7sg]

One of the best reasons for leaving the EU was to remove it as an excuse. The Tories now have to own their own immigration policy. They either have to argue that they want the levels they have or are too incompetent to prevent them.

[@firstpostcommenter8078]

True. And that says a lot about UK citizens because the citizens get the leaders they deserve

[@LS-xs7sg]

@@firstpostcommenter8078 Not sure about that. The major parties are not even mass movements. There is barely anyone in them and fewer still who actually influence which leaders take power. The population can certainly be blamed for a level of apathy and ignorance. But on most issues they have simply been ignored by the political class and tuned out of politics all together.

[@franug]

Pretty ironic. Here in Chile loooots of people go to study postgrad titles in the UK, especially in mayor universities in London like LSE, UCL, etc. My own brother studied in his masters degree in the LSE with a grant back in 2019. Of course lots of those students go with their spouses and children, nobody wants to be separated from their families for so long. But it's weird they're considered immigrants since most people don't stay after their studies, or at least do for just a couple of years and then leave. So I think if they cap the visas given to families of students, not only it won't affect the real immigration numbers, but it will be a major loss for British universities.

[@arnaudloeffel1564]

Come and work for us in Luxembourg, superbly well paid! No racism, because 50% of the population is foreign. You can speak English if you want

[@Arltratlo]

@@arnaudloeffel1564 French food and German Autobahn is around the corner..!

[@franug]

@@arnaudloeffel1564 I'd actually consider it, since my husband has a UE passport (his grandpa was Croat) we can migrate to the UE fairly easily, it would be a matter of finding jobs and school for our daughter...I visited Luxembourg once, it is really pretty!

[@graham1034]

As someone that doesn't live in the UK I'm just refilling my popcorn and continuing to watch Brexit unfold. So far it seems like nearly every single purported "benefit" of Brexit has caused the exact opposite thing to happen.

[@ryanf6530]

It's widely accepted that net migration is good for your economy. On that basis, wouldn't you say that this is a Brexit benefit?

[@graham1034]

@@ryanf6530 This is why I said "purported" and put "benefit" in quotes. I don't think immigration to fill labour shortages is a bad thing but apparently many Brexit proponents do.

[@its_firas.]

​@ryanf6530 Yeah, but that was one of the reasons for brexit in the first place, they wanted less immigrants. How is that something good for brexit

[@annemitchell6144]

For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction

[@beabea1611]

As an “immigrant” or “expat” in the UK. I came here as a skilled worker and I was sponsored by my company because of the language and technical skills I bring to my job. I am by no means a minimum wage labourer. My salary is around the top 1% in the UK and almost half of my salary goes to tax. Should my company (hq not in UK) choose to leave the UK and open their operations elsewhere, I don’t think I will be in the UK now. Immigration is not always about cheap labour. It also brings skills and talents that the locals can’t perform.

[@dannyarcher6370]

There 3 million on the dole as I understand it. You're telling me that none of those 3 million can do or be trained to do what you do?

[@CA999]

That is the core of the issue. Your merit has been diluted by those other employers in the economy who profit from mass urbanisation, a lazy firm of economic stimulus.

[@beabea1611]

@@dannyarcher6370 if they can, the company won’t go through great lengths to sponsor me. Why would they?

[@beabea1611]

@@CA999 honestly I would rather not be in the UK if it wasn’t because of work. Unfortunately a lot of international companies chose London to become their European HQ, so certain niche jobs are only available in London but I’m starting to see a shift happening and companies and shifting their focus to other European capitals

[@cfromnowhere]

Graduate Visa holder here and I would like to add a few points. Some skilled worker immigrants may be paid at a lower rate because their jobs are on the shortage occupation list, which means their positions cannot be filled by British workers. Whether this means they can be paid at the minimum wage is not what I know, but I assume it may be true for some less experienced workers whose jobs are in great demand but considered to be too precarious to do by British workers, e.g. care work. The point-based system is indeed a very liberal immigration policy. The Skilled Worker Visa has no caps, so whoever fits the criteria gets it. Compared to the H-1B visa of the USA (which has a cap of 65K per year), it has a far higher success rate. This is one major reason I chose the UK as the place I would further my studies abroad as a Chinese citizen (another is I could not bear the non-stop lies of the Chinese government on Covid and my distaste for them started years before the pandemic). But in reality, this improvement in immigration policy can only be felt by a small portion of skilled immigrants. If your skills are not in healthcare or IT, the chances are still slim. Unfortunately, this is mainly due to the way how the modern world works, typically the standard to judge what skill is more valuable than others (in an economic sense of course) and certainly not UK specific, nor does it relates to immigration.

[@Anastasia-oy2zp]

I would like to work in the UK as a German skilled worker with fluent English command, an appreciation for the culture and work experience in the UK, but with brexit this opportunity was taken away from me.

[@trevorwiley5098]

One major factor which I think has been left out/not explored enough was the suspension of the Resident Market Labour Test (RMLT) in favour of the points system. Companies were obliged to hire UK candidates before international candidates for high skilled jobs. Now, if you're in a 'work shortage' field such as medicine, nursing ect (and assuming you meet other requirements like speaking english) you are just as competitive as UK workers for jobs. This is very attractive for these workers from abroad as it cuts paperwork and gives them access to better jobs. As opposed to other countries where they fill out loads of paperwork for very unpopular ones.

[@Alex-df4lt]

Companies still prefer to hire locals as the process is much quicker. If a company decides to hire a foreign worker and bring them in they have very good reasons to do so.

[@Isambardify]

Uk universities no longer have a caps on foreign student numbers, and foreign students pay more so universities are insentivised to take more of them. Shouldn't impact net migration much though unless the students stay after their courses.

[@TheWebstaff]

No precedent at all for what happens to people after they complete their courses. Although educated people are generally welcomed in most developed countries.

[@superflatjellyfish]

Real tuition fees haven't increased ans yet all costs associated have, so universities can only be kept whole if they take in more students paying international fees. It's good for the economy to take in more educated young people. It's the potentially less economically productive migrants that people should be complaining about if anything.

[@bigbarry8343]

@@TheWebstaff Really ??? EU fruit pickers were "highly educated". Half of the world is now "highly educated". Not having a degree is a choice now, not a proof of lesser intelligence or ability.

[@amh9494]

Many do, at least they're skilled by then.

[@SaintGerbilUK]

UK universities, primarily serving non-uk citizens, makes perfect sense.

[@FrederiChoppin]

When looking at net migration there are two factors involved: incoming and outgoing. Although you explained very well why there are more visas being issued, I am wondering whether Brexit has affected the number of people leaving the UK. Brexit made it more difficult for Brits to work and stay in the EU. Are there numbers on this as well?

[@JereyStonearm]

Good question!

[@zarrow50]

sounds too sensible but main stream news is ben ton making out Brexit is bad so we may see something on that

[@Arltratlo]

that Brits need to stay on their island is the greatest Brexshit benefit, right after voted for Brexshit and getting fired from the job, because the company is moving into the EU and you have no work permission in the EU, because you voted against it!

[@KoloburTasemi]

Brexit is meant to keep brits stuck in the UK with less options for escape now that the ship is sinking (inflation says hi).

[@electric_whelk1653]

I think a lot of the problems with Brexit were summed up by the controversies over fisheries. Leaving the EU was touted as a way for us to get unimpeded access to fishing waters, but the EU didn't actually create disputes over fishing waters, it just mediated them. "Independence" from the EU doesn't mean independence from the political realities that EU regulation exists to solve; it didn't decrease the number of refugees needing homes, it didn't decrease our economic reliance on migration, it didn't stop trade with countries on the other side of the world being logistically suboptimal next to trade with neighbours, and it didn't mean that we could just take whatever fish we liked. We left our seat at the negotiating table and pretended that this was winning the negotiation. Horseshit from the get go.

[@colunizator]

"Give man what he wants, so he can see it's not what he needs."

[@russellharris5314]

if man goes to bed with an itchy bum, he wakes up with smelly fingers

[@ignatiushillcoat-nalletamb548]

This video is why I subscribe to TLDR - a solid explanation of why the figures are so high, not just repeating numbers with no context as to what it actually all means...

[@tasty_fish]

I voted Remain but even I could see the issue of uncontrolled immigration. Immigration is necessary, the key issue is the amount and also the ability to control it. Problems start when companies start recruiting for roles that CAN be done by UK professionals but are instead done by much cheaper foreign workers. That’s what’s happening in my field, IT. The government needs to decide whether it wants a high-wage high tax paying population or to export that income but remain competitive globally. Personally, I feel we should do the former, as most services and manufacturing in the UK is for the domestic market.

[@Alex-df4lt]

You're wrong. UK IT companies prefer hiring British citizens. Your argument is a myth.

[@tasty_fish]

@@Alex-df4lt judging by the huge increase in employees from south India over the past 3-4 years in IT, and backed by the graph in this very video (5:30) which shows fairly high levels of immigration in IT overall I’d say I’m right. You must be blind.

[@Alex-df4lt]

@@tasty_fish It may be the case there are some global Indian companies that work as you say (similar to EPAM systems, prefering Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainans) but what I'm talking about is British companies. I know it from personal experience they do prefer local workers which is what I would expect. Competition on British labour market is tough and below average ones and recent graduates will struggle.

[@tasty_fish]

@@Alex-df4lt I’m referring to British companies too. I’m an IT contractor so have been at a number of of different companies (large financial services and government departments) and noticed a difference from when I started to now. British companies are increasingly using a number of Indian tech agencies to provide resources to work in UK locations. And that includes everything from creative/service design to QA and dev. That’s broadly in line with the increase in the number of work visas issued to the tech sector as already mentioned in this video. And what foreign resource isn’t provided by them in the UK is contracted offshore.

[@Alex-df4lt]

@@tasty_fish That may be the case for contractors but certainly not for standard full time employees. When you apply for a job you often have a question to answer whether you will require visa sponsorship. Answering yes will lead to the application being declined most of the time. You can try applying for a few jobs in Ireland or Germany (without motivation letter) and withdraw your application if they invite you for an interview to verify my claim. I wouldn't be surprised if you got one positive response out of ten. Living in a different country is often also grounds for application not being shortlisted even if you don't need visa. In the UK competition in IT will always be tough as it's an expensive location. I would not recommend being a contractor as these usually do not get to work on the most interesting tasks, have no career path and get no stock.

[@Takudza]

TLDR needs to do a video on Australia’s Immigration system. It’s not just meant to restrict immigration but get the people Australia wants.

[@Alex-df4lt]

Unfortunately Australia is not very high on the list for immigration. It's a country with a very small job market facing competition from 3 billion people living in Asia. Australian government doesn't seem to get this. EU, UK, US are a much better choice at the moment.

[@mickd9398]

@@Alex-df4lt Australia has one of the highest proportion of immigrants in the world. Higher than any of the EU countries and double the US or UK.

[@Alex-df4lt]

@@mickd9398 I meant immigrants from US or EU. It makes very little sense for them to move to Australia. It's a perfect location for Asians though.

[@TheTardisDreamer]

​​​@@Alex-df4lt Australia actually ranks very high on any immigration ranking. We have almost as many immigrants as the UK. The UK has 9.4 million immigrants. Australia has 7.7 million immigrants despite us having less than half the UK's population. 30% of our population are immigrants, one of the highest percentages in the world. So the idea that Australia isn't popular for immigration is a very wrong assumption. And it's silly to say it doesn't count because it's predominantly from Asia. America's immigration comes moreso from Asia now than anywhere else and their largest immigrant population is from Mexico.

[@Takudza]

@@Alex-df4lt Australia is a rich and diverse country. It features high on places people want to live. I love it here. It’s telling that the UK is seeking to mimic its immigration system. All I was saying was a video going in depth into how that system works would be interesting. The EU and US are relatively wealthy and free places. They would not be primary sources of immigrants Australia wants anyway even if distance wasn’t a factor.

[@---zp9iq]

I am seriously baffled by the brexit voting racist's thought process. ''I am going to vote to make immigration to my country harder for nationals from predominantly white christian countries that more closely share my culture, thus allowing for a higher ratio of brown/black peoples from Asia/Africa to come in instead with their wildy different appearance, languages, and customs!'' Does not compute. (btw im brown)

[@gemmeldrakes2758]

As a fellow brown person, might I point out that not all of us come from cultures that are "wildly different" from that of the UK? If they are from a Commonwealth country, the British influence left behind means you have some familiarity with some aspects of British culture and we often speak English fluently. But the average Brexit voter is probablt unaware of that.

[@Theblueshark27]

maybe it doesnt compute cause you made it up?

[@StormShadowHarris]

@@Theblueshark27 Made it up by paraphrasing Nigel Farage's quotes on the subject, maybe. Seriously, the days where you could just throw insults out and clap each other are LONG gone.

[@bazzfromthebackground3696]

Brexit actually canceled my plans to move to Wales. It was always a mess that they tried to throw bandages over.

[@thisismetoday]

Why do you not wait a day until the numbers have actually come in? That just seems a bit silly

[@derekscanlan4641]

whatever farage/johnston promised... expect the opposite it's not complicated - they are liars

[@archiemcberry7102]

Uncontrolled immigration will not be curbed until we have a government committed to do so. But since the government turns a blind eye one might think that the elite are in favor of uncontrolled immigration. Large numbers of immigrants guarantees a low-wage economy which benefits the rich. So it continues.

[@jasonhaven7170]

It's not uncontrolled, most immigrants have visas.

[@LevisH21]

​@@jasonhaven7170 tell that to the "refugees".

[@danunpronounceable8559]

​@@jasonhaven7170 when one creates one of the most liberal immigration policies in the world, one loses control

[@TheWebstaff]

Without immigration the NHS is doomed! Along with a lot of other industries who rely on cheap labour.

[@jeremymanson1781]

From what you are saying, the UK needs to reduce the number of job vacancies by closing down businesses. To go one step further, rather than suffering from high levels of employment, the UK should use the Thatcher strategy of creating 4 million unemployed. That should do it.

[@kungfujoe2136]

because the cons have no balls

[@diogogoncalves7994]

There are also some extra reasons for the spike in student visas. EU citizens used to have access to student finance for tuition and had the same fees as UK citizens. This is no longer the case, now there is no funding and they pay international fees (which are often twice if not thrice as expensive) meaning now there are significantly less EU students as they're opting for studying elsewhere within the EU that is significantly cheaper. Therefore there are a lot of spots left open for less competitive international students to be accepted into the UK, which led to some of the numbers you see. This is good for short term profit of universities, but ultimately not good for teaching quality

[@Arltratlo]

its becomes British quality soon, i think people in Albania will get better education for a fraction you would need to pay in the UK!

[@cv990a4]

UK universities depend on large number of foreign students to make the finances work.

[@diogogoncalves7994]

@@cv990a4 yeah that's right, and brexit has helped in the sense that virtually all non-UK students now pay international fees (therefore more money). But it also means that european students that have better and cheaper opportunities within Europe will opt for those instead, which has left a lot of vacancies for international students to take here in the UK

[@imoisiliehinomen9958]

But why do you think other international students are “less competitive”? This is a genuine question. As a Nigerian, some of our greatest leaders in the past were educated in the UK, they went on to build nations albeit until corruption hit us hard. If the UK universities are failing to turn these people into anything significant, then part of the blame should be on the institutions.

[@Gregmott]

Petition for TLDR vids to have a timer on screen to measure time between the phrase "as we see it" and the number 3 being said.

[@dukesb]

Lol this should be mandatory viewing for all Brexiteers 🤣

[@lovarols5161]

UK has been hiring a lot of Overseas Nurses and they bring their family members too. not just that, they hired butchers as well.

[@frankieseward8667]

My guess is by 2035, the majority of England's youth will be of color.

[@Arltratlo]

wait for them to find out, they will be paid and treated better in the EU, so they will leave you soon!

[@mattyhartley9079]

If the government truly wanted to lower net immigration below 100k couldn’t it simply cap the total visas it issues each year?

[@ubermod5564]

In theory yes, but they've probably now realised that if they did that suddenly it would have a negative effect on the economy as well as health and social care. Not so straightforward.

[@mattyhartley9079]

@@ubermod5564 an over reliance on constantly bringing more people into the system, not the best long term strategy, almost like a giant pyramid scheme

[@dimitri502]

EU freedom of movement was the perfect immigration system. EU citizens came here to fill empty job positions when they arrised without a bureaucratic top down points system that's always lagging behind demand by at least several months if not years. They were young and healthy and often retired back home putting stress on their local health system instead of the NHS. London used to attract the EU's best and brightest. The average EU citizen paid £2300 more to HMRC than the average Brit yearly. In contrast the average rest of the world migrant was a small net negative (one has to assume because of education levels and the number of dependants).

[@lucieciepka1031]

How much of the Brexit negatives are caused by the leaving of the young EU workers in your opinion?

[@apb2081]

Amen

[@deniseproxima2601]

The whole family came later. It is a lie. To fill the military

[@screenname1]

The dumbest comment on here. You think open borders benefitted native Brits who suddenly realized all signage became Polish overnight? Why do you think so many people voted for Brexit??? Some people have no clue. People voted for Brexit because 15 million immigrants walked in legally. It doesn't matter what they look like. That's absolute insanity. Only sociopaths support such criminal ideas. Oh and you didn't know. The government never said! They told us it was only 3 million. Understand now what mindless greed looks like, and while you're at look up the words naive and ignorant.

[@カラスKarasu]

Looking around, the Polish, Romanians, Bulgarians, Hungarians, Lithuanians and so on are mostly gone. Instead, you meet finer specimens: from South Africa, Nigeria, Uganda, Somalia… Well done UK 👌

[@AkashS97]

And crime rate is going up

[@africanqueenmo]

@@AkashS97 crime rate is up because of unruy British kids not immigrant children.

[@africanqueenmo]

You call Blacks finer specimens. Yes you are right we are finer in many ways.

[@screenname1]

It hasn't gone up. The 15+ Million EU migrants that arrived from 2004 onward just didn't leave.

[@YNT520]

it's also important to mention that UK uni degree takes 3yrs to complete, whereas US is usually 4yrs. This also drives prospective international students to pick UK over US for their study (as I did!)

[@wnsjimbo2863]

Thats why most uk degrees worth less that eu/usa degrees in stem/maths/physics etc

[@EpicFailClipss]

more like you couldn't get into USA lol, as it's harder to get into compared to the UK. Any foregign student if presented the option would rather go to USA than the UK. UK is that 2nd choice option you pick, if you can't get the first option

[@AbdulGoodLooks]

@@EpicFailClipss Or if you can't afford the first option

[@bazzfromthebackground3696]

US uni is at least twice as expensive. And even then there's a chance the school you pick isn't as advertised.

[@edipires15]

@@wnsjimbo2863 in the EU it also takes 3 years to complete a bachelor's program

[@blablup1214]

5:30 Wouldn't say this is bad. Those worker especially in health care seem to be exactly those that you would want as immigrants....

[@jorgea5426]

Yes, it seems that the UK needs this workers. I don't understand how people think this is bad

[@TheMercifulKnight]

Yes however in high skilled roles this is bringing down wages hugely because the UK workforce is competing with predominately with Indian IT workers. Not to mention companies are less incentivised to train younger Brits as they were before (I work in this space). It's just MUCH easier for them to effectively outsource the job now.

[@bigbarry8343]

Britain should train more health care professionals here. They would have more than enough qualified candidates.

[@blablup1214]

@@TheMercifulKnight It is always the big question. Lower wages and beeing more attractive as a country for companies Or higher wages and beeing less attractive for companies.... If it is "too much" immigration in IT government could lower the points given for less needed jobs :D

[@blablup1214]

@@bigbarry8343 I have no Idea how many qualified people you have that are willing to learn in your health care system.... But I doubt your government will pay the people in health care much more as the economy is currently under pressure, You have a demand for people and the people that are there, aren't enough to for whatevery reason...

[@idraote]

And now, instead of migrants from Europe with comparatively small integration problems who did jobs Britain desperately needed (East European lorry drivers, anyone?), you get people from hugely different cultures who will either work full time without a decent living wage or grab all the good jobs in the IT and financial sectors. By the way, the UK should really get involved in its own professional schools and make sure to train skilled workers such as plumbers, electricians, construction workers, etc.

[@bigbarry8343]

Ah yes, DEI policies.

[@ia285]

There's like a million open jobs in the UK at the moment. I don't think British unemployment should be a worry at the moment.

[@bigbarry8343]

@@HyperFocus410 Really? Not in my experience.

[@HyperFocus410]

@@bigbarry8343 Experience where? I'm not talking about high-wage jobs here. I'm talking about the lower-paid jobs. From what I've seen, on average, more migrants from Europe work in manual labour jobs requiring little English skills. On the other hand, migrants from ex-British colonies can slot into office jobs or other jobs requiring good English proficiency - writing and speaking.

[@StormShadowHarris]

@@ia285 I know you're being flippant, but 1 million jobs for a population of 70 million is the issue, especially when those 70 million have been failed by the education system to the point where there just isn't enough of them to take on some of those highly-skilled jobs.

[@everest9707]

Regardless of political party, many in the UK have lost faith that the government and the civil service will stop the uncontrolled legal migration - note that is legal, the side of migration that we most have control over. The effects of uncontrolled migration are seen in: - increase of people on benefits. See the governments data of unemployment by ethnicity - despite the image fed to us, white British have the lowest unemployment rate compared to all other ethnicities. - artificially lowering the minimum wage due to an abundance of cheap imported labour. We have parts of the indigenous population that rely heavily on low paid low skilled jobs, and they are having to compete with people who are used to earning below the poverty level of Africa, Indian Subcontinent, Middle East etc - increase in house prices and rental prices - more building on our protected Green Belt land due to the housing pressure - more building on existing buildings and causing social tension as people live cheek by jowl. Legislation has been relaxed to encourage this in building. The UK already has some of the smallest homes, compared to Europe. - increase in violence and crime. There is a general increase, plus some which is specific to certain ethnicities. Knife (and machete) crime is more frequent, however whilst it captures the headlines, many other forms of crime, not typical to the indigenous population are flourishing. The Asian (Indian subcontinent) grooming gangs rap_ing/assaulting/drugging white children. - increased demand for extra policing, in the tens of thousands (look at the different police force's online wanted posters, there is a disproportionately higher number of foreign criminals, especially as a proportion of the population) - increased demand for prison officers, and prison buildings (look at the prison population, where there is again a disproportionately higher number of foreign criminals, especially as a proportion of the population). We are already releasing criminals early, and not imprisoning others, due to a lack of prison places! And the increase in taxes to pay for these. - increased demand on the judiciary. Our courts are blocked with massive queues, and everything is done to delay cases going to the CPS or going to court. We have a lack of staff and buildings. Very serious cases are rarely reaching the CPS or courts, or take years to go through the system. This causes a lack of justice, an increased risk to the population as criminals continue to live amongst us, and it encourages crime (justice needs to be swift to act as a deterrent). - the loss of our capital city London. It is now predominantly populated by people who self identify as belonging to an ethnic minority. You rarely hear English spoken! This will impact tourism - a quarter of a million people work in the tourism sector in London alone. - greater difficulty in seeing a healthcare professional, be it a GP, Consultant, or dentist - hospitals frequently declaring emergencies as their A&E queues of ambulances with patients stuck in them grow longer. Even hospitals, in areas with a vast majority of white British population, if you go to the A&E it will be full of people from the middle east, Indian subcontinent, and Africa. Often you won't hear English being spoken! - increased burden of disabled children, on healthcare, special education needs, and benefits (both for disability, and for the unemployed parents that stay at home caring for their disabled children), unnecessarily caused by cousin marriage, from people from the Indian subcontinent - lack of school and university places. Pressures to change what is being taught, to suit a minority religious population - the enormous congestion on all our roads. Even country lanes, which were once peaceful, have now become rat runs - religious and social tension, especially from ethnicities that are not interested in integrating - increased suffering of female children subjected to FGM and child marriage - increased distortion of UK elections, as women from the Indian subcontinent lose their vote to their husbands MORAL QUESTION - is it morally right to import cheap labour to be exploited? And what about those skilled migrants, eg nurses and doctors, that are actually needed in their own country. Is it morally right for the UK to benefit from poorer countries paying to educate and train skilled workers? MENTAL HEALTH BURDEN The effects of a lot of the above pressures, are seen in a rapid increase in mental health problems across all ages, but especially in the young working adults, adults who should if anything, be the most resilient of society. FINANCIAL BURDEN At Budget time in March 2024, the UK National Debt is estimated to be £2.70 trillion! BIRTH RATE FALSE THEORY Some people believe in the theory, that we need to import people because of our lower birth rate, and that there is certain work that we don't want to do. This ignores the fact that we need to increase productivity, especially with automation/robotics/AI (Artificial Intelligence), because other countries will certainly be investing in this, and all of these reduce job vacancies. Our population might not apply for very low paid jobs, eg picking fruit, or nursing the elderly, but that is because the rates of pay are ridiculously low. Pay a fair wage in an economy that doesn't tilt the table by importing cheap labour! WHAT CAY YOU DO? Please watch, action, and share this SW KZbin video: A Parliamentary petition to suspend immigration to Britain for five years Regardless of if you think this will give the results that we need, it is important for people to see, that there are many others who share their concerns, and this is one very simple and quick way to do it. Many thanks, and don't forget to share👍

[@joegee6434]

I've really noticed this over the past 2 years. I'm currently the last English person living in my block of flats.

[@full__tilt]

As a lefty, I’m very happy that the Tories are surpassing Blair’s immigration numbers. These people will be helping our economy grow, help keep the property market stabilise amongst high interest rates, and bring down inflation by filling job that no one wants to do.

[@SevenEllen]

Quite! And the irony is that Blair was a Tory in disguise all along!

[@spidermonkey8430]

That also means lower wages and ethnic British becoming a minority.

[@spidermonkey8430]

Or just European becoming a minority in Britain if African and Indian migrants skyrocket the way they are right now.

[@TheFrancoBona]

Another interesting factor of Brexit and the skilled worker system is how easier it became to come to the UK for South Americans like me. I have 16/600 students from my engineering class in Argentina that we all moved with a work visa to London on the same year. Competing on equal ground with Europeans to come to the UK has leveled the plainfield a lot to South Americans.

[@StratsRUs]

They should do a new referendum asking whether Brexiteers want white immigrants or brown ones.A proper British vote.

[@shredhead67]

Just because you're obviously racist doesn't mean you can brand an entire nation.

[@pitonsti]

​@@shredhead67He didn't brand anyone anything. He clearly said "Brexiteers". Or you think they're the whole nation?

[@zarrow50]

@@pitonsti Brexiteers are not Racist

[@pitonsti]

@@zarrow50 Is there a study made to date to prove your statement?

[@zarrow50]

@@pitonsti Nope!

[@garud4146]

I came to the UK in 2022 as a senior data engineer from Germany, 29 years of age, 3 years of full time work experience. I tried to find a company that would sponsor me, I only found one in 50+ applications that I wrote. Most companies reject you instantly if you need a (skilled worker) visa. Eventually I got lucky when the home office introduced the HPI Visa, and my university being on that list. Without that, I don't think I would have made it to the UK. It's incredibly hard. I was close to give up.

[@ajsctech8249]

fewer are leaving the UK as its harder to live and work in neighbouring EU countries

[@radjalomas8854]

depends

[@miltiadisorfanidis7489]

That’s true for people with only British citizenship but if someone has dual citizenship with an EU country they can travel back and forth as much as they want to.

[@arnaudloeffel1564]

Come and work for us in Luxembourg, superbly well paid! No racism, because 50% of the population is foreign. You can speak English if you want

[@radjalomas8854]

@@arnaudloeffel1564 where do I apply? 😁

[@CountCasual]

Universities are also incentivised to bring in international students, as the national recruitment pool keeps getting smaller (fewer children being born).

[@deniseproxima2601]

Because you used them to pay and only given the bad jobs.

[@CountCasual]

@@deniseproxima2601 Huh?

[@bigmacntings7451]

now why would that be??? I answered your question a reply or two above

[@bigmacntings7451]

broken social contract. when gen z and millenials get their turn in power this is going to be brutal.pensioners and boomers can expect no mercy at all

[@bigmacntings7451]

carousel????? as per logans run

[@OldManBryan]

Really eye opening video and good job also to the FT for being able to pull the figures from the home office. All you hear about boats boats boats, not just from mainstream media but most other places say boats too or are silent / don’t know about the causes. Hope this info gets around more that it sounds like more Boris’ fault than anything.

[@bigbarry8343]

Funnily, politicians also always blame Albanians for everything.

[@amardave84]

3:20 "Why is so many people coming in to the UK?" The grammatically correct form of the verb 'to be' in this sentence should be 'are'. People are plural.

[@surfcitiz]

Now, wait a couple of years to see what happens when you replace quality with the quantity.

[@fast1nakus]

this is actually hilarious

[@Quantum-1157]

Wait, this doesn’t add up: Indian origin PM Sunak in UK; Indian-origin Home Secretary in UK and in 2022 record high 600,000 migration into UK out of which 500,000 are Indians. This is puzzling indeed!

[@Sayitlikitiz101]

Wow! India is the biggest source of new British residents, new British Prime Ministers, Home Secretaries, doctors, nurses, skilled professionals, entrepreneurs, etc... Reverse colonization?

[@anustubhmishra]

i feel like the british pm is more popular here in india than the uk lol

[@thebristolbruiser]

I don’t think that is the reverse of colonisation.

[@whysoserious7553]

We're there because u were here

[@jonathanbowen3640]

Colonialisation is different to fairly standard immigration.

[@thebristolbruiser]

@@whysoserious7553 Is that why Indians are going to work in Arabia, too?

[@martinh8784]

Another irony is that the Brexit areas wanted the Eastern European workers out. Now that the Eastern Europeans have left the South of England, the Brexiteers suddenly realise that they don't want to live there in the first place and stay where they are ... as far away from the jobs as they can! I miss the East Europeans who have left!

[@willemvanriet7160]

The law of attraction is manifested so clearly in geopolitics. You get what you focus on whether you want it or not...

[@pedrorequio5515]

The point system is fine, but one has to realize Australia and the UK have dramatically different policies, Australia has a huge sparsely populated territory that needs more people their long term aproach is to increase population and that is not possible through natural growth at least not at that scale, so the point system is just a filter and a clear path to citizenship, because points are very easy to determine and the status only depends on them. The UK however wanted less imigration so it is surprising they would go for a simplified system.

[@bigbarry8343]

I think that you'll find most immigrants in areas that are already well developed and densely populated.

[@T0MT0Mmmmy]

The system itself is not the reason, The low requirements in the system is the reason.

[@ekszentrik]

Britain chose a browner future. Hey, I am not making some racial statement, just a factual one. If you react with disbelief or recoil at this insight, that is on you, reader.

[@remoanersrknts6736]

Intelligence is far more important than colour. 😊

[@zenmoto369]

Actually, Brexit achieved something it made our lives worse. The economy is collapsing the immigration is at skyrocketing high. Even us long time immigrants are struggling to find work because every job is taken by newcomers that are willing to work below minimum wage. Looking at that campaign red bus I wonder where the NHS money went because the NHS is collapsing, I've been on the waiting list for almost 2 years now and heard rumours hospitals barely afford to pay for their heating.

[@garrywynne1218]

Since 2017 the NHS budget has risen 28% to 2021

[@dszxnavtiisx6384]

@@garrywynne1218 inflation aswell as more people that pay into the system because the immigration numbers are so high

[@imastaycool]

​@@garrywynne1218 Britain and even the UK as a whole is disunited politically, socially, culturally and linguistically. The poor political choices and decisions of Brexit have made the lack of unity ever clearer for the entire world to see. It's not just disunited, it's also completely imbalanced. Politically, it has devolved governments, but most of the power lies in Tory Westminster which has the UK at political loggerheads. These devolved governments squabble and fight amongst each other which details the disunity. Brexit was divisive and it shows how disunited the UK is with the occupied region called "Northern Ireland" and the country of Scotland voting No to Brexit. The UK is literally split down the middle in the Brexit debacle which makes it politically disunited. Furthermore, the UK isn't a voluntary union because Scotland is actively being denied another independence referendum post Brexit - this, again, makes it a disunited partnership + an imbalanced and undemocratic one. Welsh and Scottish independence is growing while talks of Irish reunification are on everyone's lips - this, again, demonstrates a disunited and imbalanced union. Socially, culturally and linguistically it is also divided and disunited as the different parts have their own culture and language + Britain has become increasingly "British Asian". Brexit itself limits multiculturalism and encourages exclusive nationalism and nativism which in effect breeds racism and xenophobia (the very core of Brexit and Brexiteers). Try convincing yourself that Grim Britain is united, but it's DISUNITED and IMBALANCED as well as UNDEMOCRATIC and UNJUST. And it's actively breaking up which is the ultimate win 😅

[@garrywynne1218]

@@imastaycool your name says it all.

[@imastaycool]

@@garrywynne1218 no rebuttals or counter arguments haha that's what I thought Biiiiiaaaattch

[@grahamjacob97]

I would suggest most people have little real understanding of both the supply and demand sides of immigration, or of the issues which prevent locals from taking up certain jobs. There are essentially three sorts of economic immigrants: 1) Low skilled - typically from countries with much lower GDP per capita. The minimum hourly wage in the UK (or other developed country) is often above the daily wage in their home country. People who immigrate to the UK to take up these jobs (either legally or though the asylum process) are willing to do anything. Those that are successful are those that are not only willing but have the aptitude. Since many of these immigrants are single and used to much tougher living conditions than the typical UK citizen they will go to where the jobs are and share accommodation. It is much more difficult for a local UK person to move to where the jobs are if their existing support, especially housing is subsidised by the local council. They can barely make ends meet AND they may have to pay for a second accommodation short term while losing their "right" to existing accommodation. 2) Professional - typically from the middle classes in other developed countries (EU, US, Australia, Japan or similar) or upper middle classes in developing countries (India, China). This group typically either has a professional qualification or has the means to get it in the UK (i.e. includes students). 3) Investors - obviously a much smaller group than the professionals and tiny compared with the low skilled. This group includes both genuine business leaders but more often the corrupt heads of businesses from countries where losing the favour of their home country's political leadership could result in long prison sentences - or worse. The UK has a not so proud tradition in supporting these people. In addition to the economic immigrants are the family members. And this is where it gets interesting. There are nuances here too. If a low skilled immigrant to the UK manages to do ok there will be pressure from family in the home country to sponsor other family members, this can be through legal or not so legal means, which will depend on the relationships and country of origin. Often it will involve providing financial support for additional immigration. I think Australia, Canada and the US do a better job of integrating immigrants than the UK (and possibly many European countries), they are all built on immigration and whether they are as friendly to immigrants now as they were is arguable they at least had programs in place to help new migrants. Immigrants from all the economic classes often favour partners from the same ethnic group which can easily double immigration. The UK would have to run a racist immigration program to prevent this and / or accept that immigrants who were unable to find a partner of their choice in the UK may cause local problems. This extends also to British born, British citizens being effectively prevented from marrying people from other parts of the world which in a global world is unreasonable.

[@Hadrianus01]

Correlation does not imply causality.

[@Tommysimonsen]

We also had record numbers in Denmark, maybe it just have to do with amount of migrants, more so then Brexit.

[@Tommysimonsen]

And it`s a record not including Ukrainians.

[@111vincento]

was just about to say that must be cuz of ukraine, almost 40.000 migrants is a lot for a small country. but it still being the record even without counting ukranians? damn

[@Tommysimonsen]

@@111vincento Well they probably should include the Ukrainians, we are just now starting to read articles about them not wanting to go home to a bombe crater. Makes sense.

[@piotrjasielski]

Or migrants moved from UK to EU countries?

[@brexiesus8213]

Shhhh! Don't say that here. Truth doesn't work well with Rejoiners.

[@Eduard.Popa.]

Europeans are leaving UK and x-kistan, Arab and Africans are coming 😂😂😂😂 Brexit is a "win"

[@aigeneratedwauigi2696]

Sounds like a based trade

[@serifini2469]

The brexiteers knew exactly what they were voting for, at least that's what they said at the time. So I'm pleasantly surprised to find out that what they were really voting for was to increase multiculturalism by inviting more people from different races and cultures into our country, at the expense of white Europeans.

[@anti-emo4721]

Well, actually! 🤓 Nigel Farage did say he prefers immigrants from former British colonies more instead of Eastern Europeans. So...

[@eirikarnesen9691]

plesantly suprised? you are beccoming a third world nation, but the conservatives didnt stop it, so you are happy?

[@jw-ob1wv]

@@anti-emo4721 I wouldn't be surprised if he meant Australia, Canada and New Zealand

[@pitonsti]

Yeah sure. We've always seen Aussies queueing up to come over to the UK, as opposed to black beach shitters.

[@jooseppielleese7156]

Yes I'm a bitter self loathing remainer who uses race politics too, especially when gloating over brexiters.

[@iamfemo]

Let me digress from the subject matter to something touched on here in passing... 5million Brits are out of work... this is not largely due to retirement and long term sickness alone. Many Brits are also work-shy and are picking with the quality of work they want to apply for (even when they do not have the required expertise or experience for it). With the cost of living crises not abating in leaps, it's easy for this subset of folks to be more reliant on our stretched work-force too. Unfortunately, new migrants who just want to survive and make something out of their lives in a new clime are happier to fill in these roles so the cycles of being work-shy continue with no consequence. We also don't talk about this enough as a means to curb immigration. If people who are truly able to work return to work, it's easier for employers to fill roles without the need of economic migrants also.

[@prometheusjackson8787]

So 5 conservative MPs failed to crackdown on immigration at all? How does this party get any votes at this point?

[@maximusasauluk7359]

This brexit thing has been such a clownshow and I'm here for it 🍿🤡 I think it's officially more clowny than season 2 of the Trump presidency. The UK should be the second entertainment capital of the world, after the US.

[@ArCher11-iq9co]

The ultimate comedy of all is the Ukrainian leadership and military. Bakhmut: done, Kiev: next

[@thatonejoey1847]

@@ArCher11-iq9co you really think russia can march all the way to Kiev if it took them 9 months to capture a single city and failed to take Kiev at the start of the war with the element of surprise and superior mechanised vehicles? Stop being a clown at most russia will keep what it has taken, at worst they could try driving through another anti tank minefield and we can get some good laughs

[@AbdulGoodLooks]

@@ArCher11-iq9co Congratulations in failing to capture Kiev, and congratulations in capturing Bakhmut. It only took you 9 months, 5x the Ukrainian casualties, and one mercenary army. We look forward to seeing the Russian Army in Kramatorsk for round 2, where you can do it all again - if the conscripts can make it there alive that is.

[@bazzfromthebackground3696]

​@@ArCher11-iq9co Careful you don't choke on that Putin putz.

[@globuscola]

​@@ArCher11-iq9coSo how many years until that 3-day special military operation concludes?

[@eleycki]

Simple answer: because the government had to do trade deals and pandered to pressure to allow free immigration without skills or jobs from African and south asian regions. So those that thought Brexit would reduce immigrants were so wrong. We went from a lot of European skilled working people contributing immediately to society, to international immigrants arriving unskilled with a full family and barely contributing. Excellent work from the government aided by the people there.

[@vmoses1979]

Did you watch the video or are yoy just thick? The main categories are students and their dependents along with workers who had to meet points and a salary threshold to immigrate. There are few unskilled people coming here apart from refugees.

[@darrencartledge6530]

If only brexiteers weren't told that immigration wouldnt end,theyd simply get the people needed from other countries, and unlike the ones from the eu,they dont tend to go back home anytime soon whereas eu migrants would often move on in to other eu countries.

[@screenname1]

It's not the case that immigration didn't end. The numbers were hidden. I worked for the ONS during the 2011 census. Believe me when I tell you government figures regarding how many Eastern European EU migrants entered from 2004 onward are five times less than the actual amount. The idea was to bring in workers who would seem anonymous then blame overpopulation on blacks. This didn't work. Instead the people clamoured for Brexit. The establishment aren't too bright. Bringing in as much as a third of the existing population within a decade, will not go under the radar, no matter if you hide the figures. What you're seeing now are those 15 million EU migrants who did not go home.

[@cliffsofmoher4220]

Ones from eu went there to life off benefits as they were entitled to it because of EU laws but Indians go there to work and they are highly skilled workers

[@andileu]

the bitter truth is that immigrant from africa and asia never will work so hard especially in agriculture as immigrants from eastern europe. so what did brexit do? brought more lazy immigrants who are less competitive. good strategy! it's not about how many immigrants but about what kind of immigrants.

[@oystercatcher943]

Thanks a really excellent analysis which I haven't seen from all my usual respected sources

[@jim-es8qk]

Dispite all the negative headlines clearly alot of people think Great Britain is a good place to live.

[@Freedmoon44]

Well being an English speaking country first and foremost, still quite a bit richer than most other places, and ironically more welcoming than most of Europe regardless, obviously lol. However that doesnt mean its a great place to live considering the recent events. Between say France and UK, id prefer to live in Belgium eventhough it has alot of its own mess

[@loud-and-proud-patriot]

This country is finished now

[@windwaker0rules]

Australian style? Australia is flooded by low paid Visa workers crammed into crappy apartments that are vastly overvalued. Good job UK you picked a bad model.

[@yuposang]

I am a Hongkongers now migrated to UK. I just speak from my own experience. From a small city having more than 7 million population, I don't get the fear of immigration in UK because from my perspective, the UK can sustain many more population based on its size and resources. And more people means larger market. (I come from a small town in Hong Kong smaller than the isle of dog but with 500k population)

[@tada2508]

My Chinese friend, it’s the U.K.‘s inability to reconcile its present with the past which is sublimating into their complains. They will soon become of a nation of professional mourners.

[@lordkrishna1616]

Well, We dont want this country like your Hong kong that's why we need to cap the immigration.

[@yuposang]

@@tada2508 Can you explain more. Do you think it is just old conservative rambling about no longer being a large empire? However, isn't attracting people from all across the globe a sign of empire? (One reminder: while i am OK with this, some Hongkonger don't like being called Chinese. Just think of calling an Ukrainian Russian.)

[@seiwarriors]

Housing is expensive here. Mainly this is also the reason. Ngl but many HK brought so much houses

[@lordkrishna1616]

@@seiwarriors Hence we dont need anymore Immigrants here. very simple.

[@gesp5151]

This is all starting to look rather criminal by the last Govt: the initial estimated budgets for asylum, border, visa and passport operations was £320m for 3yrs: they spent £7.9bn!!! Apparently the game was to massively underestimate for political reasons and then to constantly top up from Treasury reserves (which is why the year’s reserves had gone by June!). Some of the Home Office Ministers should stand trial surely?

[@Shayron1989]

This implied that most of the 5m people on out of work benefit were ‘apparently unable to work’ due to sickness but your own statistics show that less than 2m are on incapacity benefits, with more than 3m on UC, which is just an out-of-work benefit and not anything to do with sickness. Combined with the ‘apparently’, it seems you’re saying 5m people are inventing being sick so they don’t have to work. When in reality more than 60% of those receiving out of work benefits are not receiving incapacity/sickness benefits.

[@dogwithwigwamz.7320]

What I feared was that net and massive immigration to the UK would continue in the event of us leaving the European Union, whilst I should have a very much reduced chance of escape ( as in no longer free to live in a Memeber State of the European Union ). Ah, well ! The Brextards knew what they were doing. It`s only for me to catch up and cop - on on the grounds that I`ve yet to see the benefit to the ordinary British family.

[@SaintGerbilUK]

Strange how this wasn't a topic brought up in your house prices video? Where are all these people living if not in British houses, flats and condos?

[@ia285]

If understand the numbers correctly it seems like about half of these immigrants are students so they're going to be staying in student-oriented accommodation.

[@SaintGerbilUK]

@@ia285 the problem is that they are also bringing their extended families, I'd understand if you want to bring your wife/husband and the child you have together, but not everyone from your second cousin in law to your great great grandmother twice removed, and no when whole families like this sometimes up to 20 people are not staying in student accommodations.

[@ia285]

@@SaintGerbilUK I have never seen an international student bring their extended family with them. In student visa you can only bring your partner or children.

[@SaintGerbilUK]

​@@ia285 it's even mentioned in the video at 3:50.

[@mgigachad3170]

@@SaintGerbilUK they are only allowed to bring partners, parent and children but your right we still don't have the capacity to hold all of them.

[@wendywolfman]

The question is, what mainstream party can people vote for who want to have lower immigration levels? Both the Tories and Labour or in favour of mass immigration.

[@dunkTheFunk]

Reform UK

[@usvalve]

I'm going to take the Brilliant course on making a really smooth, seamless transition from talking about a topic to talking about your sponsor's product. 😀

[@Starkardur]

UK seem to depend on foreign labour and students.

[@GeorgeTheIdiotINC]

I don't see why this is a bad thing? i mean the uk has an aging population like many other developed counties, surley having lots of young students from across the world to offset our aging population is a good way to prevent having to increase retierment age yet again? id argue one of the bigger issues with it is alot of the places these people are coming from tend to hold outdated views on equal rights for men, women, LGBTQ people ect

[@GeorgeTheIdiotINC]

on top of that we need more nurses and social care workers despratly so again don't see the issue with immigration

[@cfromnowhere]

The last point isn't really an issue because many immigrants actually belong to this group. They escape to the UK (most *not* as official refugees but through more conventional means like work visas) because the environment in their home country is way harsher.