Why have Russia’s Arms Exports Collapsed?

[@casbot71]

In India's case, it was also because they had issues with the quality of Russian jets they purchased. There were reliability problems with the engines, with a signification percentage not being fit for purpose. That's why India eventually went for the French Rafael instead. They worked out for themselves that a lot of Russian gear was poorly made.

[@UnsungAces]

Remember algeria also angrily returned 34 of their newly ordered MiG-29 in 2008 because it turns out to be low quality and some of the parts manufacturing number even date back to the USSR times so it was not new.

[@andrewlim7751]

But China no complain mate 😂😂

[@gingernutpreacher]

Didn't they also pullout of the su56 because it had a radar signature of a barn door? Or was that build quality?

[@Xio189]

Isn’t India still buying Russian weapons? Or did they change their mind after the Ukraine war?

[@Me7eOrmEmO1r2]

Nope, Quality no, spares yes. Indian military airforce is largely made of Russian jets and the majority of them like the Su30mki is heavyweight air superiority fighter so, India wanted something like a multirole fighter jet that's why India went with Rafale(India also have Mirages). France is India's strongest Western partner so that benefited France case too.

[@R0guy]

Another reason not mentioned is that Russian equipment used to be really popular because of it's extreme cost effectiveness, all thanks to being produced in huge numbers during the Soviet Union. But you can only go so far with aircraft and tank designs from the pre 90s before they become obsolete. Russia has since failed to produce or field decent replacements to these soviet vehicles (su57, armata...) and they'll never be in a position to undercut western prices with such low (non-soviet) production numbers.

[@peka2478]

The development of the himars system started in 1990s... Leopard 2: 1970s... It seems you can get quite far even with old tech, at least while you're on land: a machine gun from 1940 will kill your average infantryman just as much as one from 2020... And a javelin will destroy a tank from 2020 just as easily as a tank from 1980... So unless you talk about planes, (late) Soviet equipment seems to be fine...

[@nnnik3595]

​@@peka2478 the soviet tanks aren't really up for modern challenges as well. Also a javelin might not destroy modern tanks with reactive armour. On top of that older soviet equipment might not survive and RPG

[@dayegilharno4988]

@@peka2478 Nice sales pitch: "You'll be fine with our last-century weapons, we have been using the same tactics for over 80 years now with them, and look where that got us!"

[@owenlindkvist5355]

@@peka2478 My lad there is a immense gulf of difference between US equipment from the 70s and those of the Soviets from the 70s.

[@OrionTails]

​@@peka2478 The main difference there is that western weaponry (at least, the more modern ones from the 70s and beyond) are made with the intention that they will receive upgrades for the upcoming decades (which are expensive, but western countries never really had that problem since America, France and Britain do most of the heavy lifting). So, while Russian tanks from the 70s and 80s never received upgrades (or if they did or planned to; they never really took off due to budget cuts), the west, did. Also, the comparison between a machine gun from the 40s being able to kill your average infantryman is like saying a matchlock is able to do the same.

[@adamorick2872]

The war in Ukraine has been the best weapons advertisment for literally every country but Russia

[@airon89toyota]

Wonder how Russia gonna stack up now, thst western tanks are getting destroyed.

[@1Abraxass]

Unsinn. Die gesamte nato hat geliefert und Russland gewinnt

[@aleckerby1236]

Pakistan say china 🇨🇳 sold them crap

[@Ibcurious2-u2k]

Btw, Russia is winning this war. LOL

[@bababababababa6124]

Yeah I’m really confused why nobody would want the same equipment that Russia is doing so well in Ukraine with 😂

[@andrewrogers3067]

To be fair, Ukraine is using similar weapons to great effect

[@anonimo2932]

i want to buy those copecage

[@mandarinandthetenrings2201]

Yea, there is a dirty little secret that are friend is not telling you. When you deal with technology, you need re-invest all that money back into research and development. Russians stole all that money and haven't been re-investing in research and development since the fall of the Soviet Union.

[@bendover7152]

​@@andrewrogers3067fair point. But they also use them alongside more modern western weapons.

[@Omni0404]

@@bendover7152 Drone grenade go brrrrr

[@atomic4650]

I feel like it is also important to mention that France has cemented itself as an in-between for western military equipment for countries who want western equipment that does not come from the US.

[@jeckjeck3119]

US weapons are very good, they are also very expensive. Not every nation needs a super submarine powered by nuclear energy that is invisible on radar. Maintenance alone would cripple their budgets. US weapons are for richer nations.

[@howiescott5865]

@@jeckjeck3119 Not just verrrry expensive.... but also unavailable.

[@jeckjeck3119]

@@howiescott5865 Also true. Some/Many weapons are for close allies only.

[@pablo17667140]

Korea is the main player here, developing high quality armament

[@aaronbaker2186]

​@@pablo17667140 the market is big enough for several players.

[@ALEXFVHS]

Its less of a problem when they don't have them

[@MartinHugo]

The problem with declining sales is more than just soft power - being able to export one's arms cushions the costs of developing new technologies, if you are not selling, then the cost to innovate goes up drastically and you end up footing the bill.

[@puraLusa]

And rus is suposedly under "import substitution" 🤦‍♀️😂

[@howiescott5865]

Econ 101

[@geofflepper3207]

In the 1950s Canadian engineers designed the Avro Arrow which might have been the best interceptor/fighter in the world at the time given that it could fly at or above Mach 2 and had stealth characteristics and could reach high altitudes and reach them very quickly probably better than any other jet in the world. And then in 1959 the Canadian government suddenly cancelled the Arrow program entirely possibly partially for undisclosed suspicious reasons and for undisclosed political reasons and partially 🎉because in the era of Sputnik and intercontinental missiles an interceptor was no longer of use but also because the program was incredibly expensive and without any foreign orders the Canadian government did not think it could continue to justify the cost of development. If Russia isn't getting orders for its military equipment from abroad it's going to be hard for the Russian military to justify spending vast amounts of research dollars to develop new military technology (especially as the country's store of foreign reserves keeps shrinking quickly) which is a huge problem for Russia when its current military technology is clearly very much second rate compared to western technology. Then add problems such as the vast reparations Russia may be expected to pay to Ukraine and to poorer countries struggling with high food prices due to the war if it doesn't want to stay a pariah state and that Russian fossil fuels are selling at a vast discount on the international market and that likely over a million of the youngest, brightest Russian citizens have fled the country and more will do so if they have a chance - it all adds up to very little chance that Russia will catch up to the United States and the rest of Western countries in military technology.

[@jannd8170]

@@geofflepper3207nice summary. I also hope Russia understands that they’ll be paying for all this. They were already behind in the race and Putin cut their legs off.

[@cv990a4]

Correct. This is at least as big a deal as loss of "soft power" - I'm not sure Russia has ever had much of that. Russia had a "halo effect" from Soviet military technology, but Russia is a much smaller country and is no longer the center of a large military bloc. Soviet military technology benefitted from the purchasing power of the Warsaw Pact, plus numerous Soviet client states globally. Further, Soviet military industrial complex had the priority within the semi-autarkic Soviet economy, and the massive military budget of the USSR. All of that is gone away. Russia has a fairly modest economy, it needs to export a lot of arms to be able to afford to develop new ones for itself. There are already numerous "vaporware" Russian military products - developments that exist in very small numbers or in prototypes only, or even just mere concepts. Things like the T-14 Armata, the Su-57, the Su-75. And all this is before the embarrassment of Russia's performance in Ukraine. Russia will always find some countries willing to buy its stuff, because it's cheap and Russia will sell to just about anyone who has cash. But it will be sales of increasingly mediocre technology to increasingly dodgy countries.

[@MacTac141]

Probably the most self explanatory title ever. Russia can barely arm themselves fast enough, they’re buying equipment from *North Korea, Syria, Belarus and Iran* to try and make up the difference

[@jamesgreen1116]

According to western media?

[@billtwok6864]

@@jamesgreen1116 No in the west where you can actually verify information without going to jail. The people who say "it's fake news" are ALWAYS the ones lying to you. Some people are just suckers for propaganda. Which is foolishness since we have Google. You should try it. You sound like the kind of person who would believe 1 crackpot and ignore hundreds of valid results.

[@ORO323]

@@jamesgreen1116 Russia is using T-55 tanks. Seems desperate to me.

[@57thorns]

@@jamesgreen1116 According to actual data.

[@abdullahalkandari2976]

What a stupid comment

[@georgerice4207]

They have an airforce that leaves the ground and a navy that never leaves port

[@apoorvsood4705]

airforce should leave the ground .. whats wrong in that?

[@aleckerby1236]

NewsWorldEurope Russia forced to move air defences from Kaliningrad to Ukraine frontline amid heavy losses Russia has moved valuable missile systems from strategic enclave enclosed by Nato members on three sides

[@ProfQuibblefingers64]

Perun did a very in depth video about this, it's well worth a look. In short however the US is now approaching 50% of global arms sales, whilst Russia has fallen to about 19%

[@ChuckThree]

All hail our slideshow savior

[@coops1992]

US owns 90% of global arms not 50%

[@pxnx]

@@ChuckThree 🥰

[@jeckjeck3119]

Needs to fall even lower if you ask me.

[@nicotri9722]

What were the numbers before that (last year %s)?

[@vdoescoding]

India has used Russian made weapons for a long time, but we have witnessed the delay in delivery, maintenance and technical issues. We backed out of the Su-57 program because it was too expensive, lacked the stealth aspects needed, and had unsatisfactory avionics, but more importantly, because the Russians themselves killed such a brilliant program with their blatant corruption. We returned the submarines we had leased from them a year prior because of poor maintenance and service record. The only way Russian equipment can be used is by integrating 3rd party components into them to make operational. Russian equipment maybe cheap to produce, easy to maintain and easily customizable, but the corruption in their own defence ministry has made many countries reluctant to order more Russian equipment.

[@Herb615]

Also, India is buying weapons from Israel.

[@puraLusa]

Yup and that's the most important aspect of a deal, any deal. It's the military complex equivalent of the shady car dealer 🤷‍♀️

[@ayoCC]

Where can you get informed on this? That's some engaging insights

[@oldskoolrools1353]

the corruption was one reason why many countries bought from Russia in the first place....it wasn't ever because Russian weapons are any good. You only needed to visit Russia or the FSU to see how technically backward Russia has been for 100 years

[@puraLusa]

@@oldskoolrools1353 so ur theory is that both sides made the deal so both sides could "5 fingers" the supose profits of sales. Interesting.

[@John-sb7pn]

There's another big downside for Russia: exports were used to subsidize Russia's domestic military needs. For many weapon systems, even the demand from the Russian military isn't large enough to reach the necessary economy of scale. Unit costs will therefore go up, making them less competitive internationally, leading to higher unit costs etc.

[@danharold3087]

Russia also depended on oil sales to fund the army during invasions.

[@AwoudeX]

@tacticalmoonstone9468 hate to burst your bubble, but Russia's economy is growing despite being in a costly war... Prices for alot of things have gone down because they aren't exported anymore and guess what, that's good for the Russian people to have a deeper wallet with the same amount in it. The sanctions have pushed Russia further down the path it was on: away from dealing with the West and more towards China, Iran and BRICS in general.

[@ytn00b3]

Russia's GDP isn't large enough to fund such defense expenditure

[@danharold3087]

@@ytn00b3 Was watching a video about the oil pipelines between Russia and china. The first is " Power of Siberia ". But people at the Russian state owned company the produces the gas fudged the amount of natural gas they can supply. Now China is upset and Russia wonders why China will not sign up for another deal. Russia has also not contacted Mongolia. More unknowns. Russia does not want to run through Mongolia and China does because the cost is less. Russia natural gas exports have fallen.

[@sheevpalpatine8628]

Not to mention, the necessary economies of scale also allows for the quality of said weapons to improve.

[@LordRaxyn]

Probably also worth noting that not selling weapons means they will have to produce less which makes the ones they make for their own use more expensive thanks to economies of scale.

[@philliptemple9841]

You should link the appropriate Perun video. It is super interesting. Phillip.

[@CountingStars333]

​@@philliptemple9841it's not letter writing, no need to sign your name Mr. Temple. Also it's dangerous giving your name and pic online. I would never

[@frenchguitarguy1091]

I like the idea of signing off comments, it reminds me of the good old days when we used sniff paint for fun, now all the kids want to do are violent and sometimes sexual acts on the internet. Harrison Craftbury

[@alexd832]

But they are though they are producing everything they can for the war so i guess we will see

[@dingalodingalo8447]

Keep dreaming.

[@ThanhNguyen-rz4tf]

The problem is most of customers want a tank is a tank, not a temporary helicopter

[@balargus319]

You won the comments section.

[@khpn]

Hilarious! 😂😂😂

[@southerncyber6547]

MEANWHILE UKRAINE IS IN RUINS

[@xzGAB]

I love the comment section

[@undead890]

I think it can be summed up in an article that came out of Russia late last year, where they explained they are on a 10 year and ~$10 billion path to develop their own automatic transmission. The U.S. figured out automatic transmissions almost 70 years ago. Even on the tech side, they have spent tons of money to develop their own CPUs and the best they can come up with are CPUs that are about as powerful as a 2010 Intel Xeon processor. They are simply so far behind, they have lost all competitive advantages.

[@JFP1988]

I think the biggest issue is innovation Vs immitation. As much as I hate to admit it (as a Brit), the US innovates like no one else. The only countries that come close are Japan and Germany. Immitation only gets you so far and always leaves you lagging behind. It helps a lot when you are the world's largest consumer market as well as the most influential country in the world, in other words, the US dictates the market and decides the value and the success of innovations. It also helps that the US continues to attract the best minds to their country and benefits greatly from brain gain.

[@danharold3087]

@@JFP1988 A generalization: People who go into engineering and the sciences do so because they want to do work that counts. They gravitate to where they have the best chance of making a contribution. If this means that success breeds success I agree. To benefit from innovation one needs the manufacturing base to make products. For about 40 years US laws have made it difficult to manufacture profitably in the US. Modern tech along with a government that is more inclined to support than fight manufactures is helping to turn that around.

[@SnowmanTF2]

Even making a 2010 Intel Xeon processor seems questionable, multiple of Russia's domestic substitution efforts have been something a third party sold them with different branding. With many if not most projects never really have become a product produced at scale. Some so blatant, it seems most likely corruption, though it is hard to rule out incompetence/ignorance bye those overseeing the companies involved.

[@danharold3087]

@@SnowmanTF2 Russia got into trouble back in the 60s and 70s when it opted to reverse engineer IBM mainframes instead of developing its own science and tech. For software it purchased software from the UK. It has never recovered.

[@InfiniteDesign91]

They might be backwards but a 2010 Xeon is a capable processor for many things outside of high performance computing. USA went to the moon with a fraction of that computing power. However I think the Russians are far behind a 2010 Xeon.

[@LizardSpork]

It also doesn't help that Russia ploughs so much of its limited R&D resources into developing strategic "wonder-weapons" like hypersonic missions and nuclear torpedoes which have near 0 demand on in the market.

[@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462]

Unfortunately those are actually a pretty big deal when you look at nuclear deterrent and defence strategy.

[@triadwarfare]

@Юрий & Ко hypersonic missiles are just ballistic missiles if they can't maneuver mid-air. They can still be defeated by Patriot.

[@puraLusa]

​@@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462 rus foreign policy is offense not defense, hence, a money waste. If u nuke u can't really conquer 🤷‍♀️

[@LizardSpork]

@@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462 The thing about nukes and their delivery system is you don't need to be the first to field them or have the best. You just need to have the ability to overwhelm the enemy's defence which America is more than able to. The current American focus is on developing hypersonic weapons as a tactical non-nuclear asset - expensive missiles that can hit high value targets that needs to be hit ASAP.

[@paulgibbon5991]

@user-mt4sy8nf9x It already has. As per usual, Russia makes big claims and delivers little.

[@henriklindqvist2334]

This is also a major blow to Russian weapons R&D as they alone has to pay for it all since it can't share the cost with potential customers.

[@andrewmcalister3462]

Yes, the lack of foreign sales to help spread the massive R&D costs is really going to hurt Russia's ability to develop new cutting edge weapon systems going forward.

[@MakerInMotion]

Yeah but with American weapons systems being sold all over the world, it shouldn't be too hard to get a hold of them and reverse engineer them (like the Chinese do). It'll save a lot on R&D when the enemy did the hard work for you. The only problem with copying is you can't surpass the nation you're copying, only match them.

[@owenlindkvist5355]

@@MakerInMotion Yeah, but the chinese versions are really subpar at best. Not to mention that Russia's industry capacity laughable in comparison, and near primitive during this active war.

[@SoulDuckling126]

​​​@@MakerInMotionwhile it's true to some extent, a lot of the most advanced weapons have anti reverse engineering measures to some degree and something like Javelin & NLAW needs really advanced technology manufacturing which is only available in US & US allies nations. Which is the reason west arms manufacturing often span across nations of the North Atlantic & pacific. Not to mention some highly important software definitely has been encrypted, or the semiconductor (chip) used isn't easy to reverse engineer. The Chinese spent billions in the last decade to start semiconductor manufacturing but the results are still limited let alone cutting edge

[@WhatHappenedIn-vt3vq]

​@MakerInMotion Only a true peer can imitate the same quality too. They'll always he inferior to some degree

[@ruthwolfe5725]

Thanks!

[@gooflydo]

Russia did validate the old saying " Better to remain silent and people think you're an idiot than speak out loud and have it confirmed".

[@tonyvu2011]

"Better to remain silent and be thought to be a fool than to speak and remove all doubt" - Abraham Lincoln

[@virgilius7036]

Putin does not stay silent, on the contrary he keeps threatening everyone and boasting about his terrifying weapons!

[@commiesnzombies]

@@tonyvu2011 yeah man, if we are gonna qoute people then do it right

[@andrabook8758]

looool!

[@gooflydo]

@@tonyvu2011 Proverbs 17:28. Here is the New International Version followed by the King James Version of this verse: Even a fool is thought wise if he keeps silent, and discerning if he holds his tongue. OR Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding “It is better to remain silent at the risk of being thought a fool, than to talk and remove all doubt of it.” ― Maurice Switzer Its not only Abraham Lincoln who said it. That saying has been around for a very long time. BUT if Americans what's to steal credit for it then be my guest.

[@alhollywood6486]

Can't sell what you don't have anymore.

[@tilapiadave3234]

Cheap tanks for sale ,,, new OPEN AIR model without turret ,,, new camo paint scheme called exploded black

[@janakakumara3836]

Malaysia purchased both Russian F-18s and Su-30s. They discovered that, altought the Su-30 were cheaper to purchase, were far more maintenance intensive and therefore were frequently grounded. The F-18 was far more available.

[@TheAKgunner]

The F-18 is an American jet fighter.

[@Alessandro_ofc_06]

My country also been invited by the Russian government to buy Su-30 and Su-35 units and to participate in the Su-57 development project, but due the high costs and the famous Russian bureaucracy for technology transfer, we refuse Russian offers. And today we have the F-39 from the Swedish company *SAAB🇸🇪😎*

[@flowerpower8722]

Back in the 80's I remember seeing brand new 4wd copies in a car yard and learned they were Russian, just trying to break into the market. The rust was already showing through the paintwork. Needless to say they disappeared quickly (no doubt returned) and were never seen again.

[@commiesnzombies]

the russian version of a ford bronco 2, where did they all go

[@spritemon98]

Cant really sell weapons when you cant even supply your own army lol

[@abdullahalkandari2976]

Russia has weapons and ammunitions to take on lgbtq racist usa TWICE

[@DIREWOLFx75]

Ok, so let's see... Russia is currently arming itself more than a magnitude faster than all of Nato and EU is capable of COMBINED. Yeah, absolutely dreadful. Completely unable, yup, sure, you betcha! The most recent Russian arms export delivery to Syria happened a few weeks ago. The most recent to Vietnam late last year. Realitycheck moron.

[@AbiolaRaha]

It's not public army, therefore they have no responsibility.

[@DIREWOLFx75]

@@AbiolaRaha If you're referring to Wagner group? Then you seriously need to remember what we found out a few months ago. The fact that Wagner group alone used more ammunition per day than the whole military of Ukraine.

[@AbiolaRaha]

@DIREWOLFx75 I can imagine, what else to expect, probably sold half equipments for a bottle of vodka.

[@dzunepwnsipod]

The 2 blocks mentioned at the beginning of the episode, are the first world and the second world.

[@Gr0nal]

7:00 "fallen from nearly $2bn in 2018 to just over $700bn today" wow what a drop xD

[@dougalbadger4918]

It's a shame that because they make so much content across all their channels these errors occur quite frequently because of the quality over quantity design KZbin pushes so hard

[@jebes909090]

Import more electrolytes. Its what we need

[@mathish1477]

7.2 down to 2, tears what he says?

[@erikohlsson9360]

​@@mathish1477 No 2 billion down to 700 million.

[@pudgebooster]

​@@dougalbadger4918 you've done the same error lol, quantity over quality. I dont see a big problem with this error honestly. Visual presentation helps understand everything even if presenter have misspoken

[@jimdake6632]

For those who didn’t learn this lesson from the 1991 Gulf War.

[@Nik-jq4tx]

All previous Bitcoin and Covid specialists are now experts in Russian weapons.

[@jumperpoint]

If your own military can't use your weapons it's hard to interest anyone else in them.

[@paulmurray8922]

A complete mystery why people seeing Russian arms blown up in Ukraine everyday don't think, "Man, I gotta get some of that!".

[@b.benjamineriksson6030]

Well if you want to do a variant of "suicide by cop" I would say Russian kit is the way to go.

[@andrewalderman9489]

Ukraine and Russia are near weapons parity; Countries that are fighting guerrillas might still find a use for Russian weapons, since they are superior to what weapons the guerrillas might have.

[@bulletsizednuke1100]

Hey, it makes for brilliant fireworks

[@johnsmith-cw3wo]

@@b.benjamineriksson6030 good thing there is no "suicide by cop" USA - the most freest country in the world. 🤠😎

[@stygis]

Nobody wants Russia…. That’s a better title.

[@blikizz_nils7541]

Yeah

[@1990-w1l]

if someone want that junk, Russian can't produce that anyway

[@nealrigga6969]

No you’re wrong I want Russia… To collapse 😂

[@gavasiarobinssson5108]

Most countries in the world dont care about Ukraine war. Just like you dont care about Yemen war.

[@clifflogan7974]

I like how, when he talks about Russia's sales falling behind France, that he shows Macron in front of the Chinese flag.

[@Kevinjade]

Most of Russia's technology is from the Soviet era

[@rasol-007]

Corruption at its best

[@briant5685]

it was their AKs which the rice farmers used to kick US out of vietnam and it was also their AKs and rpgs which kicked entire nato out of afghanistan

[@marwig87]

​@@briant5685 The AKs and RPGs didn't kick NATO out of Afghanistan, NATO left Afghanistan because of financial and political reasons. Anyway the AKs and RPGs in Afghanistan were given to them by the U.S to fight off the Russians. America got them from Israel, who got them from their surrounding Arab countries who bought them from Russia.

[@bhekisibiya917]

The word "most" makes me disagree with you because Russia is proving to be very good with their weapons and meeting today's challenges. The manner how their war jets are performing surprised any and exceeded my expectations

[@briant5685]

@@marwig87 no they got their a**es handed to them by goat herders

[@owenb8636]

Lavrov was recently complaining that its exports to India are being paid in rupees. Russia has billions of dollars' worth of rupees sitting in Indian banks, which are essentially useless to them since India exports very little. This may be another reason Russia would be scaling back arms sales

[@banditonehundred]

India is also diversifying their arms purchases. Relying more on the West.

[@Yami0to0hikari]

@@banditonehundred yea being India, how can u trust Russia if they are in China back pocket hahaha

[@banditonehundred]

@@Yami0to0hikari can’t trust the West either. They need to make their own weapons to have a truly independent policy

[@waltershearls]

A bunch of angry ultra Pro Russia Hindu nationalists will smite this post once they find it.

[@yoavmor9002]

The fact that India isn't drawn to the West like an electron to a proton astounds me. It's beefing with China, it's chubby with Israel, it's technically a Democracy Now that America left Afghanistan how important is Pakistan anymore anyway?

[@drrichardwiesenhuber]

I can remember a report that the T90 sucked in the Himalaya because of poor engine performace. And the Indian Military was not very happy and cancelled the order after recieving some T90 and testing them in high altitude.

[@ianmason96]

If Ukraine manages to recover from this war, there’s a good chance they may become a competitor to Russia in the post-war arms space. Their Soviet military hardware heritage is not insignificant, and it may prove to be a reliable source of spare parts, repair, and hardware that is both manufactured to Western quality standards and has a cost similar to what they’d get from Russia.

[@keithpalmer4547]

true.

[@flybywire5866]

They might switch to western technology and sell their outdated sowjet era stuff.

[@TheHabsification]

Including their drone tech like their sea drones

[@OneBiasedOpinion]

They’re poised to become a major player in the hydrocarbon market. They’ve got a LOT of natural gas deposits which they can finally utilize assuming they snag Crimea before all this is over.

[@gargoyle7863]

German arms industry plans joint ventures with Ukraines manufacturers as well.

[@waltershearls]

Went from putting the first man in space to not being able to make simple sight ops on their tanks.

[@Ragedaonenlonely]

That was never Russia. That was the USSR. Reminder they needed to drain the economy and resources from half a continent to make that happen. Russia could never do it on its own.

[@Nik-jq4tx]

​@@Ragedaonenlonely And the US needs the economy of the whole world.

[@pablo17667140]

​@@Nik-jq4tx EEUU is the economy of the world

[@PancakeBoi]

@@pablo17667140 thanks for teaching me what EEUU means. and yes, ever since WW2 The US has been able to endlessly funnel any project it wants. Even though nowadays they're some joint projects like the F-35, and the B-21 Raider, they're with allies they don't have to bully to pay up.

[@Ragedaonenlonely]

@@Nik-jq4tx Well for one no one mentioned the US so it's quite telling you're still bringing it up. Secondly that doesn't make russia any better. Thirdly the US didn't drain half a continents worth of countries economies only to ship it all to russia and pretend it's their accomplishments. It was never russia. It was Poland, Ukraine, the Baltics and every other place in the USSR they stole from.

[@wellbeing6198]

India has lowest war ready inventory of russian arms.. In case of war with china i dont think india can withstand, even in kargil there were lpts of problems with russian howtizers.. India bought bofors which was game changer. Even IAF su30mki was completely hybrid of multi kits bought from france, israel, usa, uk

[@akashpatel8410]

Many of the Chinese weapons are from Russian origin or a cheap copy of Russian weapons

[@varun2250]

​@@akashpatel8410 Easy to dismiss them as cheap copy when the Avionics in CCP counterfeits and the modern J20 are quite formidable and can even give a run for the money against US's fighters. Their Radar and BVR capabilities are at par against other high tech Air forces around the world. If not for the French Rafale and the Meteor missile, Indian Airforce would not be patrolling the Himalayas today.

[@p_sg3449]

India isn't just selling to Armenia, it's selling to African countries and South East Asian countries. Within two decades India will be completely self-sufficient in weaponry and become a major exporter.

[@shutitdown7069]

“india Superpooper by 2024 saar” 💀🤣

[@ArghyadeepPal]

@@shutitdown7069 Yep that is all your worth

[@shutitdown7069]

@@ArghyadeepPal cry more, Pajeet Patel

[@tda7294]

​@@shutitdown7069IED mubarak 🤲🏿

[@Nesstor01]

Nobody wants Russian Arms because everybody wants to war in easy mode, not nightmare mode. 😂

[@Nik-jq4tx]

All previous Bitcoin and Covid specialists are now experts in Russian weapons.

[@Nesstor01]

@Nik 0749 Don't need to be an expert to watch KZbin and Telegram to see Russians getting billions of $$ getting blown up by 5000 dollar kamikaze drones. No air superiority or naval superiority. No secured comms or active jamming of GPS guided weapons. But whatever makes you cope, kiddo.

[@OLDGUY7301]

They produce new antiquated equipment. Old technology. Simply- their stuff sucks

[@dougcoombes8497]

There are also other factors to look at. - Sanctions since 2014 have limited the ability of Russia to access certain technology to use in the military industry. - Corruption in Russian government and military means that military equipment is often much more expensive than it was and not as well designed as it needs to be.

[@ms1884]

Next video: Why countries are desperate to get rid of Russian equipment

[@briant5685]

No one will get rid of russian AKs for western knockoffs never

[@dressednplaid4875]

​@@briant5685pft okay please keep them. There's a reason why countries that can afford to use American gear do so when they can.

[@gerritvalkering1068]

Maybe they can get Russia to buy them back at a mark-up 🤔

[@aaronbaker2186]

​@@dressednplaid4875 nah, he has a point about the ak-47 and a few other infantry weapons. The AK is dependable and accurate, Now if we were talking about planes or tanks or...😂

[@dressednplaid4875]

@@aaronbaker2186 I think in any situation in which you can maintain your weapons, you would want an M4 over an AK. However for spec ops/situations where you're going to be in say, the woods for an extended amount of time, you would want an AK. So it depends on what you're looking for. They're both going to stop what they're shooting at. An M4 has far less recoil, more customability and is a much lighter rifle overall making it easier to maneuver for extended periods of time with it. It's far more resilient to adverse conditions nowadays as well. Not to the extent an AK is, but we learned our lessons in Vietnam. These things don't jam from someone looking in it's general direction anymore. The AK's biggest strength is not its caliber, but it's survivability. The gap is not what it was during Vietnam but the AK still leads the way in durability. We laugh at russian soldiers being found with AK's that are older than the soldiers carrying them but that speaks to the weapons dependability. If I were going to be in a slog for weeks or god forbid months, I would want an AK. But if I'm just completing a mission and going back to base or if I have some means of regularly maintaining my weapon, I would choose the M4.

[@tge2102]

No offense but the recent war didn't have a "huge" effect on India's import of Russian equipment. Ever since Modi came to power in 2014, Russia's share in Indian defence imports has been falling steadily with western imports rising. The 2 major deals that have happened since are; 1) S-400- which quite literally has no competitor in the international market 2) Ak203- which was chosen after american m4's and ar based smallarms failed desert trails in India

[@TheGreatMarathaArmy]

For last 75 years India is the world's biggest weapon Importer, And Russia was primary supplier followed by France and Israel. India has started initiative called "self reliant India" and "make in India" few years ago which focuses on making own weapons rather than depending on other nations. India is Going to dominate Arms Export market in future, the military equipment And technology India developing especially missile technology, Artillery, shipbuilding are among best in the world and also way less expensive. Armenia, Philippines and Nigeria recently placed their orders to buy different types of weapons from India.

[@heartsofiron4ever]

idk man, india was still importing weapons from Russia only a few years ago

[@snickle1980]

@@heartsofiron4ever Looking into the next two decades from an American standpoint, we fully expect India to become a rather large global powerhouse of trade and industry, manufacturing etc...Perhaps the largest. India will be an amazing ally for the west, should they choose to go that route. Perhaps they'll choose to side with the authoritarians in the east instead. Time will tell, but for now, i wish them the best, as they continue to rise on the global stage. 🥰

[@heartsofiron4ever]

@@snickle1980 they should choose to ally with the west, but india's will soon face a major demographic crisis like china, they should try to clear that up first

[@varun2250]

​@@snickle1980 Authoritarians of the East, the go to choice for successive US governments over other democracies in the same region for the past 70 years. Speaking of virtue about democracy and all when it suits you reeks of hypocrisy.

[@Alessandro_ofc_06]

India is not self-sufficient lol they want to buy Rafale fighter planes from France

[@henrihamalainen300]

One thing not mentioned in the video is that at the moment Russia is likely to keep almost all military production in the country for the duration of the conflict. Thus any orders are likely to suffer big delays. No-one wants to pay money and get nothing in return...

[@tilapiadave3234]

"No-one wants to pay money and get nothing in return" and yet men continue to get married :)

[@carhac66]

thanks, most of the people watching and commenting on this video will only want ot see one thing and ignore the obvious reason.

[@mormacil]

It's literally referenced in the video... Did we watch the same video where they mention a backlog on exports because Russia needs their capacity for their special operation?

[@sebp8741]

Well... To be honest, they are exporting to Ukraine !

[@manarone5081]

You failed to mention the CAATSA. US sanctions for Russian system buyers. it makes a country with an economy relied heavily on western/US to be reluctant to buy Russian made weapons

[@ismailnyeyusof3520]

This is an irreversible situation for Russia. The perception of poor quality, continued competition and internal requirements for weapons means they cannot afford the costs of R&D.

[@puraLusa]

That's my main issue that still doesn't make sense. Russia never had the moneys for its agressive foreign policy. Makes zero sense to me.

[@ismailnyeyusof3520]

@@puraLusa exactly. When I first read them invading Ukraine, my first thought was, with the size of their economy, can they really afford the cost of invading?

[@puraLusa]

@@ismailnyeyusof3520 it's so weird. It makes absolutely no sense at all. We'll only know what trully happened in the future cause now it's all a gigantic blunder.

[@Yami0to0hikari]

@@ismailnyeyusof3520 tbf they expected to be partying in keiv by day 7. N u noe what happened with that plan

[@snickle1980]

@@Yami0to0hikari Yeah, thought they'd be Partying in Keiv like it's 1999...oopsie daisy.

[@ErenYega747]

South Korea, Germany, France, Israel, and China have also joined the industry and perhaps their market shares bit off parts of what was once the portion that was serviced by the USSR. There’s more competition and this may also bit off portions of the industry that was serviced by the US. A lot of the countries bought cheap weapons and arms may have developed enough to want more better quality arms instead of cheap yet massed produced easy to maintain stuff. I think what happened between India and China weaning themselves from Russia has also been mirrored in how South Korea has risen to be a strong exporter of arms and thus perhaps weaned off US arms in a similar way. South Korea also sold a boat load of arms to Poland in the range of billions of dollars. Poland may at one point in the past be reasonably considered a natural client of the US or European arms industry

[@mormacil]

Germany and France never left the industry, they've always been huge. Israel has been part of the industry since forever too. None of these are new factors since the 70's or 80's.

[@darreldennis7115]

South Korea, Germany, France, Israel are all US allies. They sell with approval from US because US wont give their arms. US is tightly controlled and only give to very few countries. Its luxury product that is not available to all.

[@JFP1988]

Not sure why no one mentions the UK but they all mention Korea. The UK has been producing quality weapons for donkeys years. BAE system and Rolls Royce are two of the largest arms manufacturers in the world.

[@ivanchubb885]

No mention of South Korea. Their arms industry is making very good weapons and making a lot of sales.

[@DiviAugusti]

I can’t imagine why.

[@robertjarman3703]

I would also add that a country that wants to make things normally wants to make a lot of them on a continuous basis, IE economies of scale. It´s cheaper that way. If Russia can´t also be making a bunch of exports too, then the cost for them per unit and overall of their systems for their own use rises, which is going to be really annoying in the long run for them, and also tends to help India and China as they make things in bulk to other countries. Thanks Perun for that information.

[@gameer0037]

Yeah, Peruns videos on international arms trade are phenomenal :)

[@jeckjeck3119]

Perun is the GOAT.

[@MichaelPetersFenwicks]

Deals are confidential hence data not being available.

[@MattJones675GR9]

The T90 is a classic example of just being a rebadged T72 of sorts

[@DIREWOLFx75]

Nice way of showing off your exceptional level of ignorance. The T-90MS basically uses MOSTLY the same or similar hull and suspension as T-72. And that's about it, almost everything else is new. New turret, new gun, new engine, best electronics you can find in a currently in service tank MAYBE with the exception of the Japanese Type 10... Have you seen even a single photo or video of a T-90 with the turret blown off? Nope. Have you seen any video of a T-72 or T-64 or T-80 taking hit after hit after hit from Javelin missiles, and then driving away without visible damage beyond a lot of scratched paint? Nope. But we have seen T-90Ms do that.

[@Grimnir_x]

​@@DIREWOLFx75We've also seen plenty of T-90M's either outright killed or heavily damaged and abandoned and that's without our Challengers, Abrams and Leopards entering the conflict.

[@DIREWOLFx75]

@@Grimnir_x "We've also seen plenty of T-90M's either outright killed or heavily damaged and abandoned" No we have not. Go look at pictures of T-90A and T-90M and T-90MS. Then go look through the "evidence", first to check what tank it really is, THEN make sure it's not a faked video like we have seen oh so pathetically many of from Ukraine. Especially prevalent are the semifake videos showing Ukraine troops getting killed, and then released by Ukraine slightly edited and claiming that oh no that's dem evulz Russians getting killed, honest gov! Oryx still claims Russia has lost over 2000 tanks, and yet the Pentagon leak says 600. And that's STILL based purely on Ukraine CLAIMS, not on hard facts. You also need to be aware that Russian troops got a specific order from the start that basically said, equipment can be replaced, you cannot, act accordingly. "and that's without our Challengers, Abrams and Leopards entering the conflict." HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!! You actually think that's going to make a difference! How cute and laughably naive. Ukraine started with over TWO THOUSAND extremely upgraded T-64s. T-64s upgraded to the point where i'd rather drive around in one of those instead of most western tanks. They also had severeal hundred T-72s, T-84s and a few various others. That was basically the whole industrial boom of Ukraine since 2014, building up military industries designed solely to upgrade everything they had in storage to the most extremes possible. Where are those tanks now? Oh right, BOOOOOM! They've mostly been destroyed. How many has been destroyed in tank to tank combat? Something like 5%. Top-down attack ATGMs, artillery and airstrikes is the common death for Ukraine tanks. Chances are very high, that the western tanks, the pathetically and insufficiently FEW western tanks, will mostly never even SEE any Russian troops before getting destroyed. And of course, we know that Russia has been building up their stores of guided MLRS. You know, THEIR version of HIMARS? The Tornado system which is slightly superior to said HIMARS... Maybe they will start using those en masse? I don't think so though, they're saving those up for if Nato goes insane enough to marsch into Ukraine openly instead of just having thousands of troops "on vacation in Ukraine uniform" there.

[@kokroucz]

T90M withstanding multiple hits from javelin? Source or get lost russbot

[@kokroucz]

Less than minute in goggle and I see how javelin destroys t90s like they were nothing. Bloody liar russbot

[@jeckjeck3119]

Exports of your products usually collapse when people see how low quality they are.

[@richardbale3278]

Our stuff works. Theirs doesn't.

[@zollen123]

Putin is like a CEO who had been working for a company for 20+ years but he had absolutely no idea about his company's many problems. It is as if Putin never come to work as a president.

[@puraLusa]

His problem is human ressource, he hired the wrong secretaries and he can work very hard, the secretaries will make sure to screw the company.

[@zollen123]

@@puraLusa I thought he hired only the most loyal, not the most capable nor most qualified

[@puraLusa]

@@zollen123 thus, he hired the ones who give him the wrong stratigic advice. No matter how much u work, if u have the wrong info u'll make poop decisions 🤷‍♀️

[@TheAmericanAmerican]

​@@puraLusawow this sounds like some megacope... Did it ever occur to you that maybe, just maybe, having a "strong" man dictatorship ALWAYS ends with the "strong" surrounding himself with nothing but YesMen that always tell him only what he wants to hear and NEVER THE TRUTH? The root of all of Russia's problems in the last 20 years is Putin. Simple as that.

[@gerritvalkering1068]

@@puraLusa I think I made the same mistake Stephen did - I thought you meant Putin wasn't to blame, but his HR. But Putin is his own HR so he can't blame anyone but himself again! 🤯

[@alhollywood6486]

Failed state is gonna failed state.

[@hunterkage2842]

It's what Russia does best

[@Atogatog-j9v]

Our weapons are expensive because they actually work.

[@iielysiumx5811]

Appears the “rugged” “battle hardened” and “manly” Russian military equipment is for the most part, a bit shit

[@paulgibbon5991]

A common trait of fascists and dictatorships is that the APPEARANCE of strength is valued over actually being strong. Works great, so long as nobody ever tests it.

[@naejin]

7:05 man, it kind of sounded like he said exports to China went from 2 billion to just under 700 billion. Maybe he said million, but kind of sounded like billion.

He did say billion, but clearly meant million. Tongue slip.

[@abobanger9054]

It's a mistake obviously

[@mathish1477]

​@Юрий & Ко cool, they'll buy it until they back engineer it. Then you'll have nothing .

[@mathish1477]

@Юрий & Ко well you wont have any other options if you want them, or not.

[@mathish1477]

@Юрий & Ко but I'm happy you are happy

[@peterxyz3541]

There’s another important point to russias new arms replacement: Russia need to sell arms in order to lower per-unit cost of their newer system. Without buyers, Russia will have to eat all the develop & production cost

[@karlvonbahnhof6594]

This war opened our eyes, our (Czech) politicians finally realized, we cannot rely on this Soviet junk anymore and buying Swedish infantry fighting vehicles, German Leopard 2 tanks, American helicopters, boost production of our self propelled howitzers and new jets? Probably American F35 (this is only thing I disagree with, for our small country, Gripen E would be much better option, just upgrade our existing Gripens for newer model)

[@karlvonbahnhof6594]

@Юрий & Ко ruSSia stills feel sorry that it lost its influence on Eastern Europe 🤔😂

[@karlvonbahnhof6594]

@Юрий & Ко what NATO approach? NATO is not forcing countries to join, they all joined voluntarily, every country can join any alliance, it wants! And what's the Russian problem with NATO anyway? How many times, since its foundation, NATO attacked Russia?

[@karlvonbahnhof6594]

@Юрий & Ко Putin goal, stop expansion of NATO actually backfired when he started the war... The traditional neutral country, Finland, joined NATO 😂

[@karlvonbahnhof6594]

@Юрий & Ко Russia annexed Crimea in similar way, Hitler annexed our Sudetenland, Putin even used the same excuses as Hitler... Russia is truly a FASCIST country, waging a criminal war against Ukrainian nation... PS: Polina, Russian speaking refugee from Kharkiv explained it to me

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

Gripens can't be upgraded. The Gripen E/F is physically larger than the C/D. It's like the Hornet and Super Hornet. Similar looks and name, but different.

[@saberline152]

Important to note India is building their own weapons these days

[@mandarinandthetenrings2201]

I will tell you a dirty little secret. Any time you have a technology company you need to re-vest all you money back into research and development. So if you make a profit, you need to re-invest that money back into R&D, but if you don't make a profit you still need to borrow money and re-invest into R&D. That is why most countries and people don't like running technology companies because you go broke because of all the "Research and Development" you must do to keep up. Apple Computers will spend 5 billion US dollar per year on just "Research and Development".

[@ib7844]

You can't suddenly build sophisticated weapons systems. Jets for example require massive R&D let alone the weapons they carry.

[@saberline152]

@@ib7844 Have you heard of the PakFa project and idk if you know this, but India has their own space program with home made rockets so they have all the tech and knowhow necessary

[@ib7844]

@@saberline152 Yes, I know. But countries take decades to develop and produce cost effective fighter jets programme, even with the 'know how'. That is just one example.

[@TheThundertaker]

It is, but if India wants to stay cutting edge it is always going to have to be at least partially dependent on foreign imports. The advantage that the west has is that it pools it's R&D talent and resources and this allows the west to produce better, more advanced equipment than each nation would be able to alone, even in the case of the US which is currently building frigates to an Italian design using Italian made components.

[@vala32]

If you need Russian parts, you don't need to get them from Russia. You can get them on the cheap from some Ukranian farmers.

[@t.b.5115]

"Hey here's a stealth fighter that isn't stealthy. Go on, buy it." Edit: I also find it amusing Russia was supposed to have over 1 million AK47 and AK74's in storage. Too late now 😬

[@puraLusa]

😂

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

Big Suka Sukhoi strikes again!

[@pindot787]

Better yet, our Su-57 might be sus, but pinky promises our Su-75 which we havent made is a great plane! 😂

[@JelMain]

After-sales support may be dubious, too.

[@kth6736]

Good point. There is a running joke in India about. Russian weapons being more of a pay monthly subscription rather than a one time purchase.

[@sinwithsebastian]

Low demand in flying tank tourettes

[@olafsigursons]

Next you could talk about Russia loosing access to the Baikonur spaceport? It's kind of important because it means Russia can't launch their rockets anymore and are not a space power anymore. As it was because they couldn't pay their bills it show their economy is not as a good as they say it is (shocking I know).

[@NameRiioz]

I know this will shock you, but Russia has four spaceports.

[@briant5685]

hahahahaha russia have their own rocket launching platforms wake up from that small western bubble world which makes you think the west is the alfa and omega of this world

[@dressednplaid4875]

​@@NameRiiozI'm sure they're all in excellent working condition

[@samfire3067]

​@AlexPerez-gs3pior Just blow a tank into orbit puting a Mine under The tank to blow The ammo and launch every one.

[@jeckjeck3119]

@@NameRiioz Tank turrets are not spaceports:/

[@BriefNerdOriginal]

The business of war is one of its more scary aspects. It actively works against any effort to mitigate conflicts and create stability.

[@Abcflc]

Yes, but even before mass production, war was common- so I think humans are the main problem…

[@clnetrooper]

Thing is, if everyone has no weapons, all it takes is a guy with a sword to rule. If everyone has a sword, you'll think twice before using it as you might get stabbed in the process. I know, ideally we wouldn't want anyone to have weapons so we could resolve our conflicts more peacefully. But there'll always be that guy and thus, for everyone to arm themselves is kinda mandatory.

[@PancakeBoi]

nuclear weapons has deterred WW3 for the past 70 years, the threat of nuclear annihilation scared the Soviets Powers and Western Powers into avoided direct conflict with each other (only proxy wars like Vietnam and Afghanistan, and currently Ukraine). although with how involved Nato is in Ukraine, I'm still surprised Russia hasn't been more drastic.

[@BriefNerdOriginal]

@@clnetrooper not convinced by this argument. The guy with a sword will still need to want to rule, and will still need the sword. Greed for power and weapons are still implied in your argument. I want just implying that's with a different inventive scheme where weapons aren't a business, there would be (maybe?) other and more constructive ways to channel someone's greed, while at the same time reallocating resources for more useful means.

[@clnetrooper]

@@BriefNerdOriginal i don't disagree with you. Peace is the nightmare of the gun's merchants after all. But, i just don't see a solution in all that. As long that there's a need for a sword, you'll need a blacksmith to make it. The only difference today is the scale.

[@TomOkkaTom]

"France and the UK" as the second and third biggest arms exporters? Germany, Spain, South Korea and Italy all export more than the UK.

[@pyrioncelendil]

Small correction needed at 4:54, the chart still says "Russian arms exports" despite the context switching to that of American arms exports. Also at 7:04 you probably meant to say "700 million dollars," not "700 billion dollars."

[@hankjones3527]

Not only does Russia lose the income from sales, but it now costs Russia more to develop and buy their own stuff. a) research and development cost are shared across less units and b) manufacturing costs are higher per unit for smaller runs.

[@redrust3]

You can buy T90s, even the latest Su35M fighters from Ukrainian farmers. Just have to buff out a few scratches…

[@bobbybates2614]

I think it because their tanks are shown as death traps when hit by a ant tank missile

[@spaceinvader992]

It's like buying a car to race, if the model hasn't won one race you wouldn't bother even checking them out.

[@Ar1AnX1x]

remember when people used to say "Putin is by far the smartest leader in the world" or stuff like "he's playing 4D Chess on World Stage"

[@snickle1980]

Putin gave up his lessons with Magnus Carlson and started taking lessons from Hans Neiman. Now Putins chess speaks for itself.

[@gerritvalkering1068]

I honestly can't recall ever hearing that before the start of 2022, but I didn't go looking for it either. I would have laughed at it regardless. It turns out trying to play 4D chess on the world stage is a really bad idea when your chess pieces don't like being a chess piece and will stubbornly look for ways to get ahead themselves regardless of what you want them to do, and may have vastly different ideas of what it means to 'win'. The pieces may even start to actively resent you for playing them.

[@RedJadeArt]

Who would have guessed that having the entire world watch their latest T-90’s and T-80’s being popped by Javelins - a missile from 1994 - would not help sales of these weapons? The supposed electronic jamming systems in these tanks have clearly done fuck all to protect them from weapons which were made at the same time as them, let alone drone-guided artillery attacks and Bayraktars

[@indiana146]

The great t14 armata tank that breaks down as soon as it comes out of garage

[@alizaidi2893]

Russia invaded Ukraine back in 2014 with the occupation of Crimea

[@snickle1980]

You're just now hearing about it?

[@alizaidi2893]

@@snickle1980 umm obviously not. I'm just correcting tdlr here

[@snickle1980]

@@alizaidi2893 best of luck. 👍

[@alizaidi2893]

@snickle1980 I don't need "luck" I literally already did it.

[@snickle1980]

@@alizaidi2893 I'm not certain about that, but lets split some hairs. for fun. Technically, I believe the person you're correcting HAS to be present in order to be corrected. If he never responds to you personally...have you corrected him? 😄

[@Geoff31818]

It might have something to do with russain corruption. take the carrier india ordered. the russain shipyard essentially blackmailed the indians into paying double/triple the cost and putin allowed it

[@drmaulana2600]

No wonder Indians build their carrier by themself lmao

[@varun2250]

Among most of the comments here either bashing India or Russia, this is one of those truthful statements

[@rocksnot952]

S. Korea has also started to ramp up domestic arms production.

[@glennjanot8128]

These days, any country can see that Russian equipment isn't really up to snuff. Prone to breaking down, and apparently easily taken out by handheld weapons

[@commiesnzombies]

they even found a way to screw up the newer modern AK rifles

[@begun65vdal5]

...or taken out by cheap drones

[@ulrichturke8964]

Most armys prefer conventional air defence system to firing tank turrets high in the air.

[@b.benjamineriksson6030]

A lack of creativity I'm sure, no one wants a tank turret in the head.

[@BenjaSariwatta]

Thailand has armored personnel carriers. France and Sweden have fighter aircrafts. If india can send a rocket to the moon, it can build a tank.

[@ronaldbobeck1026]

Okay, Vietnam veteran here USAF security policemen, We would get Soviet and Chinese weapons turned in to Us. The Soviet weapons for the most part looked like they were manufactured by people who were knew what they were doing. However the Chinese gear looked like your uncle made in out in the garage with a pipe cutter and a welder.

[@DancingShiva788]

Don't underestimate the Chinese. They've come a long, long way since then. They are worthy of respect.

[@SilvanaDil]

@@DancingShiva788 - They've improved, but authoritarian nations like Russia and China are usually found wanting.

[@benjaminmatheny6683]

One of India's issue's with Russian arms, particularly vehicles, is suitability. Russian Tanks are designed for the open flat plains of eastern Europe. India's most likely points of conflict are in highly mountainous regions along it's border with China or with Pakistan. It's part of why India is trying to make their own tank, very few exporting countries have tanks designed for mountain warfare. Switzerland and Japan are the only two that come to mind as having a mountain designed tank, and both have very different design goals when they made their tanks. The Swiss tank is highly defensive, in many ways not a true tank at all, and built entirely for ambush attacks. The Japanese tank is insanely expensive trying to keep it light with good armor, because Japan has so many bridges it would need to cross. Neither country are likely to export their tanks.

[@sandeepsrikumar1999]

Not completely true. India's western border with Pakistan (Rajasthan, Gujarat, Punjab) are plains.

[@ytn00b3]

Japanese arms aren't high quality, you should have seen their military drill, and there's even video footage of Japanese armored vehicle and tank breaking up during the drill. In other word, they're not war ready and experienced.

[@southerncross86]

India should buy Merkava from Israel

[@Alessandro_ofc_06]

​@@southerncross86 The Merkava is very unsuitable for the densely forested terrain of India

[@GeorgeCowsert]

The AK platform is the perfect microcosm of Russia's failures. It is an old and out of date design that has seen basically zero iteration or improvement since its inception. It only excels in the hands of the poorly educated and borderline stupid, and the only saving grace it has is that it used to be the most cost effective option. The actual technical problems with the AK also stem from the fact that it uses rivets, meaning any and all repairs that don't involve installing a new Bolt need to be sent to more proficient gunsmiths. Gunsmiths that Russia does not have the resources to train and keep stocked of supplies. It is honestly shocking how people will even defend the AK platform, when the Galil exists and proves that you can indeed improve anything.

[@koharumi1]

1:53 this is also the case with the usa. Arm exports are a good soft power. And countries can't risk upsetting USA if they rely on the usa weapons as USA only allow the high tech stuff to be manufactured domestically.

[@bunzeebear2973]

Why not? It is not like the USA is giving out their most advanced weapon (they keep that for themselves) to hold the "advanced hammer" over those other countries. That is why there exists a 3rd block that has tech that is different than the U.S.

[@koharumi1]

@@bunzeebear2973 added brief explanation

[@JMM33RanMA]

There's a new kid on the block, South Korea. They can provide NATO [i.e. US] standard arms or their own improved versions, at substantial savings and with more local production/tech transfer than the US generally permits, with high accuracy and quality. If this sounds like a commercial message, so be it. I taught in Korea for over six years, at various times, so I have seen the constant upgrading and improvements of Korean methods and production. When I buy imported technical products my preferred sources are: Japan, Korea, Taiwan, EU [Germany, France, etc.]. For Wine, California, France and Germany are preferred, while for Beer Germany and domestic craft beer are preferred. Quality, consistency, performance, reliability and price are important and Korea, Japan and the US are comparable, but the US is usually more expensive and there may be a wait list for products in high demand like MRS and stealth fighters.

[@gerritvalkering1068]

I believe Poland already put in a big order, didn't they?

[@JMM33RanMA]

@@gerritvalkering1068 I've heard that, and also that they have made a very, very promising deal with a Korean arms company to build a factory and servicing center in Poland. Not only will Poland get very good arms but the facilities and tech to make more. In addition, Poland being in the EU, they will be able to export Polish-Korean military goods to other countries in the EU. That's a win for Poland, a win for Korea and a win for Ukraine and other Central/East European states wanting to arm up against the Eastern Barbarian onslaught!

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

Considering Poland sees Ukraine as a bellweather for their own border, they have been supporting Ukraine at a very high percentage of their GDP. I would imagine that Polish ammunition production will be seeing Russians fairly quickly.

[@Nik-jq4tx]

What did you teach? How to drink beer?

[@shwethang4347]

@@Nik-jq4tx Russian bot commenting everywhere lol, youre God Putin isn’t that great bro

[@penskepc2374]

For a long time i think countries assumed these were mostly showpieces, but that beloef is now gome

[@Degarth]

I like where he accidentally said arms exports to China had fallen to 700 billion 😂

[@AbiolaRaha]

700 rubles or dollars?

[@Arya_amsha]

​@@AbiolaRaha mistake

[@JFP1988]

Why on earth China would buy military equipment from Russia is beyond me. China can and do produce better quality equipment themselves.

[@jasonalmendra3823]

Russian tanks are also good for spaceflight.

[@chairde]

This is well deserved.

[@philiparonson8315]

Many years ago I read a monograph that used the Arab loss in the 1973 Yom Kippur War against Israel was the beginning of the end of the Soviet Union. It argued that in that war the Arab forces, in a surprise attack, fielded the best conventional weapons that the Soviets allowed for export. After initial Arab success, the Arab forces were completely defeated by Israel using US/Israeli arms. The Soviet weapons proved themselves so ineffective that real doubt began to creep into the calculations by Soviet allies and weapons consumers as to the viability of the USSR. US/Israeli arms, in comparison, were effective, of high quality, and superior to the Soviet supplied systems. Soviet/Russian quality has always been a question when evaluating their military. The safest and most profitable assumption (by US arms manufacturers) is that stated capabilities and quality are to be believed and are to be used as a baseline for developing a response. Assuming the the Russians overstate their weapons’ capabilities, this means that US/NATO weapons are very expensive and over powered as compared to the actual threat that is faced. This presents risks as we may underestimate them and be too dismissive of their actual capabilities. We believe, now, that Russia’s conventional capability is overstated: by how much and what that means is a real debate. We may push this estimation to their strategic forces (nukes): do the warheads work? Do the missiles really work? This could make brinksmanship a strategy that some may wish to pursue and may lead to tragic consequences.

[@mikahamari6420]

Thank you for interesting comment. Comparing war to Chess is repulsive, because war is always a tragedy, but I compare them in one aspect: often the threat is more important than execution. As long as in this psychological battle someone has a reputation to be feared, it serves that side. Sometimes it is based on facts, but often not. I just started to reading "Noise" by Kahneman and others, and it highlights two judgemental errors, bias and noise. I am quite sure that in estimating the threats there are both kind of errors. As you said, it is dangerous to overestimate own capabilities, and it can be seen that corrupt dictatorships without free speech are very easily paralyzed by this, because there are only people who say what the elite wants to hear. Dictatorships are always cancer for their own citizens and potential risks for their neighbours, and correct estimates of their real threat is crucial. On my opinion threatening with nuclear weapon is just a bluff, because nobody could survive from it. If for some psychopath it is not bluff, we shouldn't be afraid even that. We are talking now about World order, in which only nuclear powers have right for existence, and on my opinion it is better to die free than live as a slave, if we are playing Chicken's game with "press the button".

[@mormatus]

>This could make brinksmanship a strategy that some may wish to pursue and may lead to tragic consequences. May, or may not... what's the alternative? The world is screwed currently a tad. But we will have to deal with it. And once (if) we do, we'd better develop mechanics of not allowing dictators to rule any nuclear power.

[@philiparonson8315]

@@mikahamari6420 thank you for your thoughtful and cogent response. We need to have honest dialogue. While I do not agree with all you said. You may be right. I’ll be happy to debate you anytime.

[@mikahamari6420]

@@philiparonson8315 Yes, we need honest dialogue. Now watching the news from "attempted coup" or march lead by Prigozhin, it highlighted the most important question for other countries: which of the potentially fighting groups in potential civil war get the nuclear arsenal of Russia. For those who hope that it would be someone sane, it is Russia, where the most prominent voices of sanity are muted, because the opposition is poisoned, in jail or in exile. We have to be ready for anything, and as we see history unfolding before our eyes, Russia understands only power, not weakness. Iron fist, they don't respect anything else.

[@sparx6354]

Russia arms exports have collapsed because they have nothing left to export, the factories have been sanctioned for required imported parts and any leftover/available production is providing for domestic needs.

[@hardtackbeans9790]

The old soviet designed weapons were mostly serviceable. Good enough to stop rioters in Hungary & elsewhere. Some of it was pretty good on the battlefield (i.e. how well Ukraine uses mostly soviet equipment today). The real 'spanner in the works' for russia is their seeming unfamiliarity with how to use their equipment on the battlefield. Also any new system russia seems to come up with is either a waste of time or again monumental bad use in time of war.

[@snickle1980]

True enough. The weaponry functions most of the time and yet...it's like producing a good theory, which falls apart in practice. without proper structure, discipline, logistics, etc...the center doesn't hold.

[@commie5211]

@@snickle1980 yep, they are using it wrong. I mean Russia do not have the resources and man power to start the war, but they did it anyway, with a tiny army.

[@snickle1980]

@@commie5211 😁 We've all been there... "If i move my bishop to C5, my opponent will obviously capture with his knight...but what if he _DOESN'T capture?_ Then I'm in a winning position!!" _(Opponent proceeds to capture on C5 and win the game)_

[@commie5211]

i mean the s300 hindered Russian air force, that is true. but what makes them think that F16 is not vulnerable to s300? if they want to prove nato weapon is better, they would need send their fighter jet to go againt Russian air defense. But, they are smart enough not to do that. 🤣

[@ivokostov2676]

Main thing not only China but India is becoming third player. If things go on Russia be 3 rd at best. India in from them as 2 nd. China as 1 st power. If Russia doesn t break that is. Because for once those two countries seems to be able to develop economy and not depend on old popularity that was something. Can really provide something real. Maybe thats why they want Ukraine because they provided so needed human recourse to make something good. Nothing beats real field testing which in these case was been very poor. Main thing was surprise to see India was becoming player. Mainly was worried for China before the war. Russia start of war was way to make it self see as some force to reckon with it. Yeah force of rapist, bullies, ego narsist, crazy nuke everyone, pre madonas and losers.

[@AMANDEEP-xc7jo]

In India, we decided to buy 272 Sukhoi 30 Mk 1 in 2002 (about half of our jet fighters today) at a huge cost. Not only are they lacklustre in performance (barely survived to Pakistani F16s in 2019), they can hardly network with other jets (Rafael had to replace them as leaders of formations) and are a headache to upgrade. That was a major reason for us to change from Russia.

[@goodputin4324]

Wtf is Rafael 😂😂😂

[@AMANDEEP-xc7jo]

@@goodputin4324 Potato potato 🙂

[@ajaykumarsingh702]

That's bullshit. Right now Su-30 MKI is the most powerful jet India ever had. It is the best air superiority fighter in the world, Rafale doesn't stand a chance against it. The only reason India is suffering is because it is completely dependent on the Russia for even basic spares and engine overhauling. That is not the case with China. China operates Russian jets and even their modified copies (Better than original) without a problem because they have that kind of industrial prowess that surpasses even USSR and USA. Self reliance is everything that India doesn't have.

[@RCXDerp]

Haha imagine what Ukraine could do with F16s if dumb Pakistan could manage that.

[@howiescott5865]

@@goodputin4324 I think that's a French Fry.

[@SirZanZa]

id say Britain and France have their own weapons, munitions aircraft and ships and are also massive arms exporters. the only thing the United Kingdom relies on the US for currently is the Trident missile system though the Submarines and nuclear warheads are British its just the delivery mechanism (the missile technology )that's American. France also uses its own technology. the west has always had a massive advantage over Russia as 3 of the 5 Great powers (United States France United Kingdom ) reside there and are united unlike the remaining 2 Russia and China who are loosely aligned but not allied

[@TheThundertaker]

Britain has a huge arms industry, but the problem with it is that it is largely built upon individual components of collaborative projects, with at best, assembly taking place in the UK. We can no longer manufacture major pieces of equipment self sufficiently and are dependent on foreign components for everything as well as buying a lot of our equipment with no British manufacturing input.

[@SilvanaDil]

Let's not forget that the UK is purchasing F-35s from the US.

[@TheThundertaker]

@@SilvanaDil 15% of each one is made in the UK. That is what I am talking about. The UK arms industry is about making components in collaborative projects.

[@DIREWOLFx75]

" the west has always had a massive advantage over Russia" Really? Then please, why don't you explain why the post-Germany reunification report based on getting full access to Soviet equipment basically amounted to "their gear is better than ours in every way except ergonomics"? That report by the way caused the emergency development of the 9X model of the Sidewinder because of how absurdly far behind the western SR AAMs were at the time. Or why don't you explain to me why Russia and China have operational hypersonic missiles while USA is still trying to get a fully successful test with ANY of their 5 projects trying to develop them? Why don't you tell the Ukraine soldiers that got killed beyond Javelin max range, because Russian tanks IR could spot them at TWICE the range any western tank is capable of? Tell it to the ghosts of the thousands of Ukraine soldiers killed by unguided air to ground weapons that were far far too accurate, because Russia invested in creating a sight for its attack aircraft that drastically improves accuracy of unguided munitions. Or tell it to the ghosts killed by Russian thermobaric weapons, most of which, the west does not have anything like them. Or why not explain why no western AWACS of the horde that loiters outside of Ukraine and Russian borders have STILL not been able to track any Su-57s, even when they KNOW they've been at closer ranges than Russian radar have been able to track F-35s and even F-22s over Syria. Or maybe consider the fact, that the S-300s Ukraine started the war with, despite being OLD by Russian standards, were still more effective, still far more dangerous, than all the western rubbish SAMs that have been delivered lately. Maybe try to explain why Russian SAMs can routinely intercept whole swarms of MLRS, when western SAMs would struggle to hit even 1 in 10. "the only thing the United Kingdom relies on the US for currently" REALLY? I'm sure that's an amazing insight for all those F-35 pilots flying off of UKs carriers. "unlike the remaining 2 Russia and China who are loosely aligned but not allied" Oh, don't worry about that. They absolutely ARE allied NOW thanks to the lunatics in Washington and Brussels. ASW and submarine-tech is already making it's merry way from Russia to China. And that's about the only technology where China was seriously behind anyone. While SMIC has already made deals to sell a 22nm chipnode to Russia's Krokus chibfab, which while currently doing an excellent job of providing chips for Russian military, is still somewhat limited by its 65nm node from 2018 being the most up to date.

[@drmaulana2600]

​@@DIREWOLFx75 my dude coping real fucking hard lmfao, if they thought soviet stuffs is better than what they currently have, then why did they either donate or sold all of East German stuffs then still using their own stuffs?

[@kennetth1389]

Something youglossed over was the overall quality of the arms in question. Compare an 80's ak-74 to a current ak-74 and you will immediately find the current model inferior.

[@peteregan3862]

India's plan is to make India's weapons in India. Alas, deficiencies in Russian weapons compared to western weapons means India has to get western arms manufacturers to partner with indian companies and indigenise weapons for India and for India to export. In a few years, Russia will just be a source of raw materials for India - especially oil.