Why I am Done with Dog Parks! Tips to keep your dog safe if you decide to go and what to avoid.

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[@rptrick79]

0:12 -#37 Rodney Harrison 0:31 - Topic of the day: Dog parks. What's it good for?! Absolutey somethin! 3:19 - Joel has PTSD from the dog park gangs from a year ago 4:31 - Dogs with cinderblock heads are the only thing that can kill Princy 5:47- Be a breedist. Game bred Pits vs Corsos, Borboels and Dogos 7:09 - The death switch wants the smoke! 8:08 -7 year olds with knives at the park are the same as pitbulls. Be careful! 9:28 - *Double down of the day* 11:32 - "But Joel, i have a Pitbull and haven't had any problems" 12:29 - Dogs at keg parties. ABORT mission if necessary! 14:41 - epidemic of people that cannot control dogs 14:33 - You wont hurt a dogs feelings. Be a breedist for you and your dogs safety 15:12 - Problems dogs have at parks Joel is Prince's problem. 17:20 - "flip over dogs" arent good in prison. Here we gooo 18:16- turning out guys in prison and walkers on the streets 19:57 - *Where was Joel Beckman on the 6th fay of January?!!!Did anyone see a Doberman in the Whitehouse that fateful day? * If you did at least he wasnt biting the gardener 😂 23:26 - pussin' out. #37 is the last podcast 25:21- LET THY STAMPS REIGN DOWN FROM THE HEAVENS (baiting the time stamp guy.) 25:51 - DISCLAIMER! Little late boys! 28:37 - I UNDERSTAND PITBULLS BETTER THAN ANYONE IN THE WORLD! -JB 28:55 - The best dog park in the world is @Beckmans 30:22 - Joel provokes a dog fight at camp run a mutt to get fired. Another sponsor down the drain 32:09 - Doggy daycare is like uppers for dogs. Everything in moderation. Rules for daycare ( none on uppers) 36:49 - Joel's not a hard beach body. 37:49 - 20 min of burpees will make you a little b*tch 38:01 - Lets ruin this podcast! LA-wise comment. 38:28 - it's ok for 15 year olds to have kids. 39:19 -Kids ruining relationships 1 marriage at a time 😢( This is where you ask Man-tality for a sponsorship) 42:22 - Eric offers to give a Joel a vasectomy with a hunting 🔪 42:58 - Minimizing feelings: Doin' it by feel...it doesn't feel the same. GROWN FOLK TALK! 45:50- libertarians bending views on vasectomy 47:18 - explaining the jumping around this time. 49:20- Idiocracy- certain people shouldn't procreate 50:33 - doctors doing things they don't wanna do for money 51:38 - The POD will live on. Master plan step #2 53:14 - cat piss comments and people *CLICKING OFF* 54:47- Throwing the dog a 🦴 56:30 - Crazy people are the POD what the eyebrow scratching means 57:32 - the P.I.C. and how it applies to dog trainers 58:26 - *Making dogtrainers based on integrity : The Beckman School of dog training Promo!* 1:02:45 -nobody cares about credentials if you dont work with aggressive dogs 1:04:41 - Special guest announcement next week Fo-real this time 1:10:57 - Joel tries to talk Eric into throwing his Bengal to the coyotes 1:12:22 - The humane society caises trauma to cats 1:12:49 - Air tagging cats to know where they were on Jan 6th 1:13:35 -more comments 1:14:52 - THE Cooking segment: How to show your wife to make a sandwich. 1:17:00 - "ooo la-la! the ladies love it" 1:18:42 - reading comments solely based on compliments. ( from the POD not ego-based)😂 1:21:55 - Prince is the most famous Dog on the Internet 1:23:50 - The only apology heard 😅a brief dog talk (which is rare here) 1:24:55 - Joel doesn't care about fat dogs or society being overweight 1:27:45 - trying to get a cookie sponsorship 1:31:03 - *Can't wait to get shadowbanned 😂. Love you guys-out!*

[@BDTraining]

Beautiful

[@User7688.--_]

Wrinkles can get worse by sleeping on your side. You get more of them on the side you sleep. Sleep on your back. It's tough at first, but it works.

[@rptrick79]

Forgot the disclaimer. There is none. Thanks for your time if you feel you've wasted it by reading to the end. I apologize....to no one!

[@rptrick79]

@@BDTraining I appreciate it! You guys are making it easier😆

[@MrDynamart]

😂 at least he didn't bite the gardener 😂😂😂😂😂

[@westvesper]

THANK YOU for stating the real problem. A lot of people conclude "dog parks are bad" when the issue is people bringing bloodsport dogs with genetic dog-directed prey drive and gameness to the park. You can't out-love or out-train genetics.

[@klospike]

Hope your comment gets many, many likes!!! Because you are so right!!!

[@SergioImbarlina]

Yup - Best explanation of Pittbulls I've seen online that covers both sides of what everybody says (sweetest dogs ever / most dangerous dogs ever)...and it covers the genetics from generations of selective breeding: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pn-2eax9hp6pbdU

[@anonymoussee8960]

The problem is when you determine that genetics drives behavior in dogs, you can conclude the same is true for humans. That opens the door to some uncomfortable conversations so most people would rather pretend that all dog behavior is simply shaped by the owner :)

[@DK-mp2qo]

@@SergioImbarlina That was a great summation by that guy - thanks. As a past and current pit bull owner I am in complete agreement that a pit bull is not a dog for every type of person. It takes a person who understands how to be the boss of their dog. I also like how this guy describes the sensitivity of pit bulls - they are (usually) very keen to please their person.

[@underscore6071]

I think the other problem is some dogs can just outgrow the dog park. I know this was true for my intact male. From 3 months old I'd bring him to the park let him play with the dogs and get pets from people. At around 12 months it became something else where he was asserting his dominance even with dogs twice his size and he was more focused on playing with me and the ball I'd always throw around than playing with the other dogs. One person even told me one of the last times I went to a park that he was only interested in me and the ball than any of the dogs in the park which was true. I believe where I went wrong is always throwing the ball for him maybe. I think I should have just taken the ball in one day at the park and the next time not bring the ball or maybe throwing the ball out later on in our park visit after he played with the other dogs to exercise and tire him out so he's not as hyper at the house.

[@OffGridDogs]

Ed Frawley of Leerburg says “there are 2 people you will never see at a dog park, veterinarians and dog trainers. Because they see all the damage.”

[@melodieramsay655]

As a dog walker, I always tell my clients that the best time to go to a dog park is Monday to Friday, in the middle of the day where there won't be as many people or right after work Monday to Friday because, where most people will just go home, a good dog owner will actually sacrifice their supper to first take their dog to the park. I always advise never to go to a dog park on the weekend because that's when you get the idiots who only exercise their dogs once a week and stand around with their coffees, not paying attention to what is going on.

[@instridewith_life]

Or maybe just don't take your dog to the dog park at all. I advise my clients to try to avoid them, that's where most dog fights happen.

[@Itsallover57]

Stopped going to them when I noticed its more of a work out for me and a social club for everyone else

[@user-p6-3561]

Well said

[@melodieramsay655]

@instridewith_life You can have a dog fight while walking your dog leashed on a sidewalk - I know this personally as just this morning, I woke up to 2 dogs barking and lunging at each other in front of my house. Last year, my senior Bichi-poo got grabbed by a dog while we were walking - she was sniffing the grass and the other dog lunged at her and grabbed her by the neck - I had to pull it off her. Thankfully, she was just bruised but just proving that it can happen anywhere and is the dog owner and not the dog in most cases that causes the problem.

[@User7688.--_]

@@instridewith_life Did you not read their comment? It might help some people that don't have alternatives.

[@OffGridDogs]

Amazing! The ONLY famous dog trainer really open to admitting he might be wrong once in a while and changing his opinion. That’s to be applauded! ❤

[@chrisspringer614]

I was in Loreto Mexico and there were several lose pit bulls. The large male wrapped his large jaws around my female lab/rot neck and pinned her. My husband and I grabbed the pit by the back legs, lifted him off the ground, and the pit let go of my dog. We then carried the dog by the collar and back legs over to the water and threw him in. He did not come after my dog again. It was very scary and we probably could have been bit. But at that time we would do anything to protect our dog.

[@cybilsnarf]

I totally agree with you pertaining to the behavior of Pitbulls. It also goes with Pitt mixes. I've seen it on a number of occasions. They go after a dog and refuse to let go of the other dog.. I've witnessed the owner beating on their dog trying to get them to release. It's damn scary to witness and it's a helpless feeling!!! I would never ever take any of my dogs to a dog park!! Don't trust that owners will be able to control their dogs.

[@RagsToRiches88]

As a pit bull owner I completely agree with you. Many people don't know that choking (cutting out the air supply) the dog is the quickest way to get the dog to release. You also have an epidemic of people using a harness with no collar, so you try to pull the dog from the harness and that only encourages the dog to grab onto tighter. I love pit bulls but I am fully aware of what they are capable of. I do take him to the dog park and he's great with dogs but I am very selective of when I go. If I see some dogs are out of control or owners not paying attention, or gathered together as a pack, I am out of there. I know my dog will not start a fight but he will probably finish it.

[@Esteban69129]

My wife does a lot of volunteering for dog rescues. The general public seems to lack common sense these days. And a great many people are just simply insufferable.

[@high-bi-password]

Somebody please explain the exact timeframe when common sense was actually common

[@robinnolan8006]

A woman w/2 malamutes tackled her dogs when they "flipped" and changed demeanor with my terv. She knocked one dog's tooth out. She is the only person I have seen, ever...who read her dogs & stopped them with full body tackles. She was amazing, their play turned to aggression and they were signaling to each other... she stopped them. Full grown male & female malamutes. Respect.

[@landwight]

I'm so happy to hear that you guys are starting a dog training academy. Just excited for how many people and dogs will be helped once some Beckman-blessed trainers get out there.

[@Krapvag]

the major problem is when people who buy dominant dogs are told dominance doesn't exist in dogs so they go to a dog park with a dominant dog looking to start some shit while they throw hot dogs at it. The dog might not even be the instigator, but it's also not going to back down

[@pittymama4500]

I always tell people that they may not be the starters of the s*** but they're going to finish it;

[@RagsToRiches88]

amen@@pittymama4500

[@erinhardick1362]

I go daily with one or both of my dogs. I watch the hell outta them and the other dogs.

[@pittymama4500]

Yes! When a fight breaks out in my household it is dangerous and it is never a lightweight fight because I own pitbulls and a couple of them have that gameness to them and when they turn on there intense. I've never seen other dogs fight to the extreme that they fight to. Even though I've had to break up many flights and I know that I can do it every single time I am scared shirtless because the intensity that comes from it is unavoidable. They're holding on and they're shaking each other and you can't pull them apart because it's going to do more damage the only thing you can do with mine are choke them off. Imagine the chaos that ensues at the dog park when it happens with trying to get that apart. But while I have those dogs I also have a pitbull / American bulldog and he doesn't want to hurt nobody, even though he is capable of doing so at 96lbs and his head and neck are enormous. His brother has gone at him multiple times and the third time it happened he finally started defending himself but he has met atleast 50 dogs probably more and never have any of those interactions gone bad. Somehow he knows that his brother is a different story and he's not worried about other dogs being the same way. But even him I'd never take inside of a dog park because it's just too much of a risk. People want their pitbulls to be like every other dog and the thing is, they're not like other dogs, they have this unique thing about them and if you can't admit that then you shouldn't own them. It is common sense that a dog that is instinctually dog aggressive may not do well inside of a dog park even when trained well.

[@fireballfitness170]

I really appreciate your input. I also enjoyed seeing the dogs at your channel.

[@SuperGlitterUnicorn]

Why don't you get a break stick?

[@vivienneclarke2421]

Right on !! Kudos to you for understanding your dogs! I also have pit bulls,one who once attacked my beloved pit/lab mix. I think I suffered from PTSD for years after that. It came out of nowhere and she had her by the throat,I couldn't break up the fight for what felt like forever,but was really only moments. Ended up with a broken rib and a broken finger. My dog had some punctures on her throat and face,which healed. That said,I love my dogs,but know that I can never take them to dog parks,have to watch rhen,that one especially,around my grand daughters. The key to owning pit bulls is responsibility. As much as you love them,and I DO, you have to ALWAYS be watchful...... All that said~they're funny af😂mine are such clowns lol

[@fireballfitness170]

@@vivienneclarke2421 I really enjoyed your comment also explaining your experience with your Pitbull and pitlab mix.

[@troypisano5409]

I have a 1 year old doberman with swingers. I always wanted a Doberman and was immediately inspired by your videos. So far I have been extremely blessed with an incredible temperament. The dog park has been critical in my dogs development. He can play with any dog, even ones that have attacked him. I agree with your sentiments with pits. I have had an experience in the past dog sitting a pitbull and seen the switch flip. Unless you have had to deal with that situation you can not comprehend just how intense and helpless you feel. I had to choke the pit to get it to release on a boxer he lived with. There is something different in that breed the same way there is something uniquely different about the dobermans focus and attention they show their leader. Thank you for all the great free content. I wish I had the time to join your program. Dogs are amazing and almost no one truly understands how to build a healthy relationship as the pack leader.

[@kaitlinjensen]

I take my German Shepherd to the dog park a lot, but I live in the Netherlands, we always ask before entering if our dog can join, if there's a new dog. If someone just goes in, they're usually told that's not safe to do. There's a huge pitt here, owner is a tiny girl, I talked to her and was blunt, I don't trust her dog around mine. I'm weary about Malinois, too. They are so intense. My dog was seriously attacked by a Mal x Turkish mountain dog, they knew each other, she just immediately attacked. A lot of us dog owners know each other's dogs, and know who can be with who, and we just work around what goes.

[@mrheldify]

At dog parks, it's always good to meet with regular dogs and owners at a regular time as you have a supportive congregation incase of issues and the group will quickly 'out' the problem dog.

[@kurtwagner4663]

German here. I do the same. I also don't trust pitts around my dog if I don'tknow them(same constellation: big pitt cross[she tells people he is a border collie mix, but my uncle owned pitts and staffies, I know one when I see one], tiny owner) This dog did bite my Standard Schnauzer when he wasn't even looking at him. Good thing is she doesn't come to the park anymore as I am not the only one who's dog got bit and she was threatened with animal control by two local trainers. One of them is specialist for testing the potential danger/aggression potential of certain breeds and their crosses for our city officials. He can get you in serious trouble. I love Pitts, Staffies, Bullterrier. I love these breeds, but I don't trust them near my dog if I don't know them and the owner well. Malis are the same. They are to intense, like you just said.

[@zuzuspetals8323]

“A dog trainer of integrity.” That’s you, Joel! Thank you for all you do! The mentorship program sounds super-fantastic. “And MUCH more!” 😉

[@krystal6137]

When a dog is in kill mode they don’t hear anything, don’t feel pain and are laser focused on bite shake hold. I once broke up a dog fight by grabbing the aggressor by the scruff of the neck and back skin over the hips simultaneously and lifting straight up into the air and the dog still held on lifting the other dog with it. You can train a dog to drop and you can teach a hunting dog to release but that is completely different than a dog in the red zone. Another thing that I’ve seen is when there is a fight, dogs that are not involved get triggered and jump in oftentimes hanging up on the weakest dog- it’s a primal instinct that is more prevalent in certain breeds and can’t be trained out of them. When wolves make a kill they each grab, bite pull and shake trying to tear a piece off dismembering it- they wouldn’t be able to eat as easily if other canines weren’t there to pull. The doggy version of that is tug of war with a rope but that game is just the remnants of prey drive that we have bred out of some of them.

[@andyvereen2408]

I love listening to this podcast. It's the only 1 I listen to but it's great. I look forward to the next 1 every week. Thank you for having fun , and resourceful topics. It's good to hear real talk, and laughs weekly. Great idea for the mentorship. Thanks you guys

[@AleisterCrowleyMagus]

Joel I love your honesty re the dogs that are really causing problems today. The owners *cannot* call them back (I get your host is trying to make a joke about training certain dogs but the truth is they are never controllable even when the owner swears otherwise). Also I LOVE knowing that Prince, the most handsome boi in the world, is right there off camera, making sure everything you say is correct in his expert opinion.

[@sarahgarcia2850]

Joel, we had a stafford shire who was my first real experience owning a dog. A friend at the time who was fostering her talked us into taking her and offered getting us a trainer. Thank God! We took the offer. Our trainer was this 4'9" asian lady that worked specifically with pit bulls who were "red zone" casses. She comes to our apartment and when she walks in doing her normal routine meeting a new dog to get an idea about them she tells me " she is a very smart dog, and you need to be 100 steps ahead of this dog for her not to rule you." She takes us on our walk and didn't use a whole lot of treats but more similar methods to what you taught on your channel. As we walk she begins to tell me how she has a family with small children and has a pitty whom she was working with severe aggression. She told her husband to take the kids out of the house and when the dog came home she tackled this dog to the ground rolled on him and layed on him on his back until he understood she was the dominate head over him all while he was muzzled. She worked with a pitt rescue we got our Pixie from. Pixie was a great dog, I learned a lot with her and we used to take her to dog parks and beachs in the very beginning but I stopped as she got to about 3 years because something the asian trainer told me is "owners with pitts need to understand the culture of dogs, and the responsibility with this dog it comes with" she told me pitt owners even if its not their dogs fault for the initial attack but the pitt is stronger and has a different mind when it comes to the moment they bite, the owner should always take the responsibility to handle the costs due to the nature of Pitts. She also told me greet people when walking our dog but don't be offended when they don't want to meet your dog. I'm glad we stopped dog parks and chose other methods to help get her energy out. She was a strong girl and I learned a lot with her. My husband and I were very much on the same page with her but when it came to other dogs we just used a lot of caution because of her breed and things we learned raising her. After she passed I told my husband I wanted another breed to experience raising, we have a beagle this round which is totally different

[@lisashumac1322]

Thanks for avoiding the dog park. Sucks when all the good dogs have to leave because a pitbull showed up.

[@dizzydeathdoll]

I've got a 2y old, unneutered male Weimaraner. I go to a dog park (about soccer field size) every day (in a suburban/rural area). Your channel has helped me enormously to recognize and evaluate dog behaviour, so I know when not to enter or abort or even just recall. I've seen a video from Dog Daddy also emphasizing how important evaluation is. Both the dogs in the park and the mood my dog is in. Watching you and Prince has given me so much insight into body language and what signals to look for and of course things specifically about unneutered males. It vastly improved my ability to communicate clearly with my dog, probably prevented a lot of frustration of not understanding why my dog isn't listening/paying attention. My two cents to add on parks: - Always be prepared to intervene, pre-emptively if need be. Even if it means people get angry with you. Harsh words are far more preferable to a wounded or dead dog. - Consider bringing some supplies like extra poop bags (a clean park is way more relaxed), water and a bowl and a med-kit. Scratches and collisions can happen and not just the dogs! Thank you Mr. Beckman, I wish you and Prince a long long time together :)

[@CarleneWiebe-lg7hi]

I am SO relieved to hear this conversation as a person who follows your leadership quite rigorously. I haven’t taken my back to the dog park in over 2 years since she sustained and had surgery from ACL tear playing hard. I’ve felt guilty thinking she wasn’t getting the same kind of stimulation. I am finding new ways to work with her and hope to join a training class in the Spring so she is around a few other dogs who are also being trained and aren’t SO crazy! In general dog parks are OVERWHELMING for a dog like mine.

[@fireballfitness170]

Great point about dog parks and dogs playing so hard that they actually get injured. It definitely happens. If a dog is going to play hard it needs to warm up. And even this doesn't solve all the ways injuries can happen from hard play.

[@koloblician5330]

I grew up with an american pitt and currently have an american staff, I'm never taking my dog to a dog park as much as I want to let him socialize and as friendly as he is I agree with all of these issues towards pitts. I get him around friends and neighbor dogs instead. If my dog was any other breed I might take him but the risk is not worth the reward in this case.

[@CastleMc]

issues "towards Pitts"??? they have earned their reputation

[@Luckingsworth]

I think you either have to commit to going to a dog park constantly or just not go at all. It becomes a very different experience when you are a regular and know all the dogs and owners and the dogs are all familar with eachother.

[@BDTraining]

I agree. Good point

[@angelinacamacho8575]

ive had people be hesitant with my 30lb male mutt meeting their dog for some reason. but once they would see him play with another dog who is off leash they ease up. my dog doesnt even lunge at others.

[@Luckingsworth]

@@angelinacamacho8575 Thats whats so great about building that familiarity over time! Some dogs just look scary to some people. Its nice when you go enough that everybody already knows your dog and you can all be comfortable with eachother. The few times I go to a random different dog park it is much less enjoyable for me (dog sure still loves it) but I wouldnt trade time at the regular park for anything, it has been so valuable for teaching my unneutered male how to get through in life since there will be challeneges, there will be bigger dogs, there will be dogs with mental issues, and so on. I wouldnt say he is Prince level but I am proud that he has become a very confident dog that is very tolerant of minor things but isnt afraid to take a stand for himself when another dog is being a jerk.

[@albertcovington9942]

I worked at a day care years ago. One day we took all the dogs that couldn't act right in the large group...all pits,bulldogs and some boxers...and put them all together. Not a single fight. Some dogs play tackle football and some play tag.

[@briiigiiijaureguiii]

P. S. Thank you Joel for not pussying out on how crazy it is. Totally excessive.

[@kenjames1817]

I own 2 pitbulls, and I agree with your assessment. If I take them to a dog park they have to be the only ones there because they believe once that gate opens they own the park..if I see someone getting ready to enter the park I tell them to hold up so we can leave..its sad but it's reality

[@kyle7056]

I just started listening to these. Absolutely amazing! Thank you so much for the content.

[@HowAboutThat224]

I went to a dog park for 6 years out of necessity. I lived in an apartment and it was my only option. Now that I have a house and backyard, I wouldn’t go back unless I had no other choice. Not worth it.

[@Anon_E_Muss]

I just walked my dog every morning and night. We didn't go to dog parks as he was a bit reactive.

[@lolakola2917]

you never really "have to". we lived in apartment 2 years with bc, we used go to big green areas (not to much crowded) with very long leash and play fetch and it was enough. now we have a garden so we can play in the garden too. apartments are not the issue, it's about how much time a day you can spend for your dog.

[@HowAboutThat224]

@@lolakola2917 I walked him two miles a day, but he wouldn’t poop on leash. I went to the apartment dog park because he would poop right away. It was a huge time saver for me. So in a way I did “have to” go. And before you get all self righteous about how you could train him to poop on leash, he was a rescue and I did a lot of training just to get him to do anything. I don’t regret it because I made all my friends at the dog park being in a new town and he got to run around. However, I have no desire to go back to one.

[@user-ze8wg1mp5p]

Same with my first dobie. I loved in an apartment and the dog park was my only option. I got very lucky with that dog too. He was 4yo when I got him and hadn't ever met another dog and he surprised me and was just the perfect amount of confident, dominant and Intuitive, a lot like Prince, but he was an anomaly for all we know about dogs that don't get socialized and trained during critical developmental stages. He did so well at the dog park even when other dogs picked fights w him. My current dog is different and our dog park doesn't have separated fenced areas for dogs that need it. So we don't go to the dog park. I have a 100ft rope and I take him to the school yard when it's empty to play ball w him and let him run. Dog park isn't worth it.

[@lolakola2917]

@@HowAboutThat224 don't worry I was not judging you. You have a special case. Some dogs might only do their business when there is a smell. I know some behaviors never go away. You have done the best you can.

[@sivanadesireeholler7727]

If no one else does, Joel, I agree with you. My husband and I had a kid pretty quickly after getting married mostly because I have endometriosis, and I was worried about not being able to have children. It was not an ideal time to have kids, and my husband wanted to wait a bit so we weren't really trying, and it appears that I do not have any fertility problems. But my husband was offered a seasonal job in the mountains, so he only had a job for the summer, and we had just moved right before she was born. But we pulled it together, even though we lived in my husband's grandmother's basement for the first few months. It was chaos, and it was difficult, but we grew as people, and even though our relationship had some struggles, we came out of it much more prepared for children than we would have been, and much better people with a better relationship. I know plenty of people who have had this experience. Having children will help you grow more than just about anything else, that's just how it is.

[@CalvodeMiel]

what does this have to do with dogs?

[@sivanadesireeholler7727]

@@CalvodeMiel what does half of this podcast (or perhaps 3/4s) have to do with dogs?

[@OffGridDogs]

The podcast is much more than dogs

[@debbiiesiken2686]

I have never taken any of my dogs to a dog park, mainly because there are to many owners who have dogs that don't listen. I have a doxie/pit mix who I was taking for a walk yesterday (dog was a rescue..is built like a doxie, just stands a little taller, weight about 24 lbs)and a dog from across the street from where we were walking got out of someones house, and started running towards us. Trash cans were out so I was at first trying to keep the cans inbetween the two dogs. Since this dog looked more like a sporting breed mix I was trying not to panic. The owner was trying to get the dog...call the dog...dog was not listening. So the dog finally took off..think he was just excited to be out loose. The dog did come back for round 2, but by then I had gotten my mace out just in case...but was glad I did not have to use it. Now if this had been a Pit that had run at my dog like that I would have picked him up and gotten him into the trash can...That being said, years ago when I had an Aussie I had a Golden come after my dog and went for the neck right away...with the owner saying "he is just playing" I was proud of my dog he stayed calm..I was probably more panicked than he was. So after this I feel like I need to be more prepared. Sometimes I do carry treats with me, but not always. That was the one time I wish I had some, I would have tossed one over close to the owner so maybe the owner could have gotten a hold of the dog sooner. Anyway not sure if you have done a podcast on things we can do to protect ourselves and our dogs if a dog comes charging at you. Yeah, I don't know if you are ever fully prepared when it comes to kids. I will say that it is easier if you really wanted to have them, makes it easier to roll with everything. If you never wanted kids, and then become pregnant I think mentally it can make things harder. I think that is one of the good things of having a dog or cat before having kids. Teaches you responsibility and teaches you to think of someone else besides yourself. Because if you can't handle having a dog or cat....do not have kids!

[@joiegates3623]

First time commenter. Enjoying binge watching Beckman Unleashed and your training videos ! Thanks for all the free information. Just have a few notes on dogs that go to Doggy Daycare. I adopted a rescue that could not stay home alone even after months of trying different things to help him settle. Didn't want to give up on him so started taking him to DC while I was at work which was part-time. It helped socialize him to new people, dogs and situations. He is a great dog now and I am thankful I had that resource close by and that I could afford it. In retrospect I just didn't have the know how in the beginning to solve his destructive behaviors and his excessive barking that drove my neighbors nuts. Years later I now work at that DC. Been there just under a year. We have all breeds, all energy levels, all ages, and temperaments. Between our indoor yard, outdoor yard, family dog areas, tourist dog areas and little's area we can monitor which dogs work well together and can switch them in/out and around as needed. Joel is spot on about the energy in the "Yard" changing as staff enters an area ( we have a regular crew but the dogs have favorites ) or a dog/dogs enter a Yard. We manage it by what we call Doggy Tetris. We certainly allow dogs to play all they want but the higher energy dogs can escalate the energy to unsafe levels. There are combinations that set each other off. Take one over the top dog out of a Yard that has 15 in it and the energy level drops immediately. I'm paid to keep my attention on the dogs in my assigned Yard to notice/prevent issues, monitor play, and give affection. And I pick up a lot of poop. Some dogs are half day dogs, 5 hours, and some are full day dogs. Some dogs do great in that situation. Some just are not suited for what we offer. Thanks for what you do. I appreciate learning from you ~

[@suefoster1233]

Remember owners its just as important to chill with your dog as play run walk. Remember balanced well rounded dogs are happy dogs.....us too 👏👏❤️❤️

[@vikingdogmanship]

At our dog daycare we have plenty of breaks with calming music during the day. We do different activities like hiking, mushing, agility, grooming, socializing whatever each dog need. We dont just throw a bunch of dogs together and let them play for hours at a time. Everything well adjusted and planned for every dog and owner.

[@BDTraining]

That’s great

[@landwight]

I chose my doggy daycare partly because of Joel's recommendation of max 4 hours group play - the one I chose has a 2 hour break mid-day and all dogs go back to their kennels for those 2 hours. It's 4 or 5 hours max before and after the 2 hour break, depending on the day of the week. It's a bit of a drive from where I live but I try to do at least one half-day/ week. I really don't see a lot of day care or group-style boarding places ensure a break like that though.

[@BDTraining]

@@landwight the break is great

[@kurtwagner4663]

I understand your stands on dog parks. We do have a group that shows up at 6 pm sharp and block the park for 2 hrs. Not literally, but every decent dog owner avoids this group like the plague. Here is why: They get there, everyone unleashes their dog and thats it. They sit down on the bench and ignore their dogs for the time being there. And this dog pack means business. They bark at everyone walking by, they are aggressive against each other, there is recourse aggression going on, there is no point when they chill, they are always rilled up the whole 2 hours. And the owners do NOTHING! Maybe call out once, but they don't move their butts one inch. I was part of this group for a few weeks. The turning point for me was 2 things 1. My dogs obedience plummeted fast 2. He got bit by....guess the breed...a pitbull mix and the pitbull was told he was a "good boy" for biting my standard schnauzer who had the BACK to him F**k this group. Seriously. My dog was fine thankfully, but shaken up.

[@rptrick79]

Weird, it's the same apparently all across the country in regards to walk in, sit down then not pay attention to their dogs. I see it all the time luckily those dogs aren't usually the trouble. The people are the gossiping group type though.

[@kurtwagner4663]

​@@rptrick79seems to be world wide tbh as I am not from the US. I am from Germany. Sadly this dog park is the only one which is completely fenced in in my whole damn city.... I stick to going in the mornings or around lunchtime on weekdays, when I have a day off on a weekday. Works most of the time.

[@MangoDobie0823]

This thumbnail really caught my attention. I have enjoyed the podcast since the beginning . My husband and I have learned many helpful methods watching the KZbin videos. We are also clients and Joel and his team have worked with our dog Mango. I value his opinions so much and was afraid we’d have to stop our dog park trips! We’ve taken her to the dog park several times a week since she was 4 months old to satisfy her need to run/sprint/ chase her ball. (She’s a 2 1/2 year old Doberman) We also used the dog park to practice recall using Joel’s “go get method”and tamped down her ball obsession with much success using Joel’s advice. I’m so glad this podcast actually gave practical advice for utilizing the dog park for those of us who need to go. We live in a big city with strict 6 foot leash laws so the dog park / dog beach are the only options for free running. We have always walked away from or left when the vibe goes south. 😂 Thanks for your honesty about taking intact males like Prince into a dog park. He’s so lucky to have his own dog park right at your facility! As always sending much love and respect your way!

[@briiigiiijaureguiii]

The first time i watched my boss's dog we went to a dog park. She told me to go. I haven't been there since and I'll never go back. U N R U L Y. I was breaking up potential fights. It made me feel odd. I don't mind feeling strange but this was different. There were ~20 ish dogs. The majority of their people(as some were walkers with multiple) were entirely uninvolved. Like taking toddlers to Raging Waters and the person in charge goes into the lazy river, does phone stuff and never thinks to check in on the toddlers. Breaking up the dogs was instinctive. I didn't actually choose my action. Immediately afterward i was conscious of how it may have looked to whomever, whether i was in the right to do so, etc. I'm not shitting on the person (Walker)with 7 dogs on her phone. I'm simply the opposite of this and the anxiety isn't worth it for me.. Maybe if the dog was having his best ever time I'd consider it. He did a few laps and then came back to me the rest of the time. It's seemingly a free for all. I won't. There wasn't another person there as concerned as i was. No balance. No go. ❤❤❤ you 2!

[@APromisedFriend]

I have been a dog trainer full time for 21 years. I worked with animals part time for 20+ years before that. Having owned 52 dogs over the past 25 years and having up to 17 dogs at one time living with me and working with me, there are very few trainers out there that have that type of experience. I have adopted badly behaved dogs and raised some from puppies. All turn out to be well behaved and adjusted stable dogs. Currently I have 9 dogs, 4 German Shepherds, 2 Doberman, a Rottweiler, a collie and an Irish Setter. I have NEVER promoted dog parks or dog daycare. I DO NOT allow my dogs to play rough with each other. I work my client's dogs on the outside of the dog park to teach them to ignore the craziness on the inside! I am the protector. They feel safe and calm with me. I have started a KZbin channel to get my message out there!

[@OffGridDogs]

Absolutely agree with you but you might be like a dog version of a “cat lady” lol. That’s a lot of dogs!

[@APromisedFriend]

Lol, Yeah I call myself that sometimes too! But when they come in with aggression I don't rehome them...I do change them though! LOVE my dogs!@@OffGridDogs

[@tombarkdull]

I am a veterinarian and a pit bull owner. I have had unpleasant encounters at our dog park, I believe they have been because other dogs initiated the discord. My pitty loves to play and will perform the needed sniffing protocol and then try to entice play, if the other dog isn’t interested she will disengage and walk away. But if the other dog shows aggression it’s game on, there’s never damage even though the encounter sounds horrible, I have videoed these bouts in slo-mo format and when you play it back you can see they are not biting one another but rather just acting like it.

[@drnicole33]

Thank you for the honesty.

[@TessT101]

There's a small one near my neighborhood and I take my girl Saturday right after the sun comes up. No one is there and then within an hour maybe 4 dogs total. Same people pretty much of the time. We don't have a back yard and she is a 50 pound high energy 11 month old puppy and she needs to run. She loves dogs and this is the highlight of her week!

[@Oakleaf700]

Brilliant points. Agree 100% re Pit bulls and XL Pits. I never take a chance with them given a choice.

[@Chrissyke]

Agreed

[@Allison5619]

My father kept staffies in the 70’s I love them, great dogs. But they are bred to hold on in a fight, and sometimes they just won’t let go unless it’s to get a better hold. They don’t feel much pain it’s true. One of ours Mick, used to practically sit on the hearth, he loved the warmth of the open fire. Someone would say I can smell burning and he’d be laying there with a burning spark on his face or nose, he didn’t feel it at all. We tried to keep him off it but he always snuck back, the fire guard would always let some embers through. He was an amazing dog with people and our other dogs never had trouble in that respect. All the bull terrier’s get this red mist sometimes and it’s on. It’s scary to witness, especially when the other dog is screaming in pain. I never had any fear of him though, he was amazing with us kids. But I’m always cautious of others, like you say there are many idiots out there who shouldn’t have a stuffed toy let alone a dog.

[@OnkyoGrady]

fwiw the big offenders at dog parks are rescue dogs. The new owner has no idea how they will react, but they are "good" enough dog owners to know that they'll need socializing. So, everyone else gets to soak the outcome. I'm not saying that's entirely a bad thing, but it's how I saw it happen often enough.

[@AntTheDogGuy]

So i work as as a dog trainer/behaviorist in South Africa, my brother and his family just emigrated to San Francisco since thats where my sister in law is actually from so would be amazing if i could take a little trip up to your facility when im out there to visit them! One thing I will say is that based on videos I've watched and my experience with Pit Bulls in South Africa, the temperaments differ by quite a large margin. There seem to be so many pitbull breeders in America and so many people who want them as a status symbol that the breeding has gotten somewhat out of control, here there are far less breeders and they are more dedicated to breeding a more balanced temperament and for the vast majority it has has worked extremely well. Dont get me wrong a pit that still wants to do damage will do damage the likelihood is just miles reduced, we also dont have those hulking behemoths that are not pure Pitts in SA. You spoke about the Pitt bull being a dog that could kill your dog, Ive also seen though the a bull terrier when sufficiently motivated can do the same thing, the latch, they'll shake, they have an incredible tolerance for pain and if they decide that's what they want there's a big problem at hand. Bull terriers are however less volatile breeds, though when i was young we had neighbors that had three bull terriers, a mother, a father and a son and when the neighbors were away the son decided to kill the father, and there was nothing anyone could do to get it to release and they tried everything. I have a ton of experience with Boerboels, South Africa being their country of origin, and while i can with absolute certainty tell you the boerboel of today is not the Boerboel of 10-15 years ago i still work with them a lot. The Boerboel used to be a dog akin to the size and weight of the Bullmastiff, although now we are getting these 80 something kilogram monsters, there is no doubt in my my mind that Neopolitan mastiff and maybe even some English mastiff was introduced into the breeding to get the much larger size. Another theory is that they went on to iosolate the the Ysterburg Mastiff which is technically known as the true South African Mastiff which existed in South Africca around the 1940s they did well and bringing the breed back to to life and now while they do obviously exist while in small numbers and very limited breeders but crossing the two would create a seriously massive dog. Though it would explain the sudden emergence of black boerboels which there never were before, brindle yes but never black. Anyway, my point is i have seen a number of Boerboels this side of the world not just get into a dominance fight with another dog, spending time at a specific dog park here in Johannesburg you get the odd monster boerboel who gets a challenge from a Rotty or a Malamute, and things turn sideways very quickly, the fight with the Malamute he was shaking so hard he was practically lifting the dog of the ground, amidst the chaos i told the owner to do his best to hold onto the boerboels head so that he couldnt shake it, and then thankfully he already had a chain on i attached my lead and i lifted him by the neck with the chain, and just as he let go cause he couldn't breathe i grabbed the leash and jerked him around and coutinued to do so until we had out some distance between the two dogs and i walked him away. That malamute survived because it was so hairy most of the bites the boerboel got were mouthfuls of hair. The Rotty was different i saw the two start to size each other up, go neck to neck and I killed it in the crib gave a clap and said hey! and they stopped and went their separate ways, luckily for the the Rottweiler. I guess what im saying is that dogs in different countries while at their base have the same instincts but can be extremely different in their behaviors which can come down to all sorts of factors, breeding, gene pool manipulation, The type of dogs being imported into the country by breeders often sets up a lot of problems and the dogs already being bred with. also whether dogs are seen as status symbols or companions has a major effect.

[@BDTraining]

We got your email. I’ll contact your shortly

[@AntTheDogGuy]

@@BDTraining great thanks a lot!

[@aussieoutbackfarm]

Hi Joel, thanks again very much for another great podcast. Very good dog park tips:) Just a suggestion for the next pod, I'd love to hear you talk about your ideal exercise routine for normal, medium energy dogs. Eg. how often to walk, how long to walk for, how often playing with other dogs, how long playing with other dogs, how often training, how often playing ball if you do that, how often to go to dog parks (if you go at all) etc. Thanks

[@neebeeshaabookwayg6027]

I am late, again, today.... I always enjoy you guys... had not LEFT COMMENTS lately... was extra busy, studying... I do greatly appreciate you!

[@suefoster1233]

Nobody is prepared for anything new in their lives. Marriage kids grandkids pets family friends......you could say we are not ready for anything!!!!!!

[@s.b.5259]

So glad you brought up the molosser/ Mastiff/ LGD type breeds vs. pits. I have these dogs. I love these dogs. Theyre all about im big, im top dog; they wont start shit but theyll damn well finish it if necessary. Pits will start it and go down trying to kill the other dog.

[@catschleicher3484]

I fell in love with a doberman years ago, working in doggy daycare. Then I found this channel while studying/working on hours to become a dog trainer. After I began a career as a professional dog trainer, I finally got my own doberman. I named him "prince Zuko" in part because Prince had such an influence on my love for dobermans. My time in daycares taught me that dog parks are just trouble. I do not bring my (now 1.5 year old) male, intact doberman to the dog park. Instead we do play dates with his bestie, a pitbull I certified as a good citizen and trust implicitly. I definitely have had to break up fights with pits and their drive to fight is unmatched. There was one time a pit latched onto a husky by the neck, it felt like it lasted forever and I thought the husky would die.

[@treestuffer]

why is he intact? you're irresponsible.

[@User7688.--_]

@@treestuffer😂

[@catschleicher3484]

@@treestuffer because I got him to compete in mondioring, which requires the dog be intact. mind your business, I'm not breeding.

[@OffGridDogs]

Neutering is castration is destroying the dogs endocrine system by removing vital parts (ovaries or testicles) the hormones are important. Do some research don’t buy in to the spay and neuter propaganda pushed by the “Pet Industrial Complex” The most responsible owners I know have intact dogs because they were responsible enough to do real research and discover the terrible health issues caused by this unnecessary surgery.

[@myheartisglad]

7:21 😂💥🤣💥 Don't want the smoke from Joel😂 You guys ALWAYS end up making me laugh!!!🤣💥🤣💥🤣

[@Kenpachi324]

Found this channel about two days ago. It’s been one of favorite

[@phtm35]

My neighbor's pit dug into my yard and tried to kill my dog, even though mine acted submissive. If not for the fact that my gsd has all that fur my dog would be dead. The only reason we were able to get my dog away was when the pit tried to adjust his grip and grabbed the collar instead. I undid the collar while my son held the pit and I ran my dog into the house. I'm not against pits, but there are some situations they should not be put in. And social settings with other dogs when the pit isn't on the leash is one of them.

[@OffGridDogs]

Advantage of my dog being on a raw balanced diet is he is always the exact same weight and never seems hungry or interested in other food

[@rptrick79]

I noticed that too and I'm still sort of mixing and doing 1 or the other. Still trying to find more recipes etc to have a little variety. Doing lightly cooked ATM. Gave mine a raw bone the other day, they always run through him which sucks..

[@OffGridDogs]

That’s odd that a bone would do that. We find that bones firm up his poop and too few bones cause the stools to get loose.

[@rptrick79]

@@OffGridDogs I think it's the marrow and what not he may not be use to. Maybe too much at once. Idk. Has always done it.

[@Luckingsworth]

I have only ever done raw diet (actual raw, meat and bone and organs) and the handful of times I habe fed somethinfg like kibble (even supposedly high quality stuff) I have been shocked the insane increase in poop. Like 4x the volume as a the raw diet. And its way less pleasant to deal with too. Honestly that alone is enough to have me keep them on the diet. My only issue is that my male is picky and if I dont feed him the organs first he will eat around them and leave them alone once he has eaten his other food first! Haha. And dont even get me started on when I am cooking a steak and he stares at me smelling it and then I try and feed him something like chicken or pork that night. The biggest look of betrayal on his face almost breaks my heart. Almost 🤣

[@jantaylor9711]

I have been to the dog park many times where my dogs met and played with Pit Bulls. Truth be told I was always on alert and know/knew that it would be impossible for me if anything bad were to transpire. Needless, to say I do not take my dogs to the dog park any longer as I do not like the uncomfortable feeling inside that I get. Enjoying my peaceful walks.

[@delacari444-re7dt]

Your dog is probably much happier walking with you.

[@kurtwagner4663]

​@@delacari444-re7dtyeah I second that. I used to go to the dog park every day and it did a huge damage to my dogs obedience and our bond. I couldn't call him back, he didn't acknowledged me, he even forgot how to heel. Nowadays I go rarely and only with a few selected people to the park. Nowadays after a hard time of intense re-training my dog finally can be called back again even off leash. But it took a lot of time to remind him of how to do this and to orientate on me again.

[@lisafoster4468]

I agree that while pit bulls can be the sweetest dogs on the planet, when they do go there, they are geared to really do some damage.

[@forestcreature88]

I love all of the truth and common sense coming out of these podcasts. I also love how they're all over the place! LOL! Keep up the great work!

[@ElizabethSeiden-lg6mj]

I’m going to San Diego on March 17th. I hope to see you there soon!

[@lady_amen]

you really opened my eyes to the danger of pitbulls and rottweilers, the comparison with a child carrying a knife is brilliant!!!!! I've realized how naive I've been, I remember once letting my spitz puppy play with a pitbull, even if that one was absolutely neutral and chill, the RISK oh my god! thank god nothing happened, there were absolutly other breeds which were way more aggressive than those, but suddenly my world just flipped upside down after listening to this.

[@Sidtrav2017]

I had my pitbull from birth. Extremely people friendly, was very socialized with dogs early on. At 8 months old, became extremely, like extremely fixated on dogs and out of no where got violent aggressive with dogs. I dont know what happened. At 1 years old, would in dogs dog and constantly start fights(no biting) just very bad dominance. I officially took him away from dogs so nothing would happen. He slipped out of my dog and tried attacking a my random neighbors dog. Had to use all my power to pull him off. At that point, I couldn’t have him anymore. Brought him to a behavioralist and he told us he needed to be euthanized because he’s extremely dangerous to the public. He even started turning on our 5 year old and attacked our old dog he grew up with. It was crazy because we go him at 8 weeks and he had great behavioral training and socialization. But mentally was off. He ended up being put down. I now have a cane corso and she’s the best dog in the world.

[@marr737]

That's why nobody trusts pitbulls.

[@DENVEROUTDOORMAN]

I ve heared certain dogs at 1 yr old or 2 yrs change into something mean

[@JayJayInDaZone]

40 years ago.The German shepherd of my grandma got weird and mean all of the sudden. After a while he bit a chunk out of my granny's arm. They put him down and did an autopsy on him. He had a huge brain tumor. Don't know about bulls and pits, like if it is more common, that they freak.

[@federicov362]

Was your pit fixed at some point?

[@nicolechen9316]

I know a girl with a game bred rottie mix. Female, raised from puppy. As soon as she turned two she started attacking the other family dog out of nowhere. First once every two months, then every other week. I’m really suspecting if rage syndrome is a thing with these kinds of dogs. Or maybe it’s a brain tumor. I don’t hear from that girl anymore hopefully she got it sorted out.

[@ElizabethSeiden-lg6mj]

What do you think about the cat on the commercials that has nine live named Morris?

[@rockenracing1996]

Joel, are there any primers (books, textbooks, etc.) you would recommend as prerequisites of your mentorship program? I've been applying your methods to mine and my friends dogs i watch, and would like to give myself more of a basis of understanding to get the most from your mentorship program in the future. thanks guys for always bringing great content!

[@rockenracing1996]

Joel's reading list!

[@sharonkaminski5517]

In regards to pet boots here in New England when there’s going to be a winter storm the town puts down chemicals on the roads and stuff gets put on sidewalks.

[@tetris1613]

As someone who prosecutes people for breaching the dog act, it is ridiculous how all the brutal attacks especially the deaths are from pitbulls and staffys.

[@rptrick79]

Is there any noticeable correlation whether personal or professional (stats) that you've seen relating to either the lines of the type of pitbulls, game bred etc. or the owners in anyway? I know it seems like a loaded question but it's not. I'm genuinely curious. I believe they all have it and the "it" is genetic. I've caught several strays or dogs at large running the neighborhood and 1 was a pit. He was very even tempered/chill. He wasn't 1 of the shorter more aggressive types I've seen which is why I think he was let go. Ran my neighborhood for at least a month didn't bother me while walking my dog or anyone. The ones I see out in yards tied up on occasion are always the shorter type and always seem to go fuckin nuts no matter what.

[@denellsullada7697]

Are the attacks mostly by intact males and or abused dogs?

[@OffGridDogs]

Most dog bites are neutered

[@rptrick79]

@@OffGridDogs because there are more nuetered dogs I'd assume. But I bet if someone would get breed specific it would be flipped

[@kurtwagner4663]

​@@denellsullada7697doesn't really matter as neutering doesn't prevent dominance or aggression towards other dogs Some dogs are more prone to aggression as others even with in the same breed Thats why there are pitts who are the sweetest and pitts who seems to be in constant fight mode

[@Arete37]

Thank you! Be breedist. I'm not afraid of Chihahuas. I'm afraid of pitbulls.

[@loofisher2124]

A friend came upon an incident in the dog park parking lot. She heard screaming and as she got closer could see a woman holding 2 small dogs up over her head. There was a pitbull gnawing on her calf hoping she would drop her dogs. The woman never let go of her dogs and the pitti owner finally catches up to his dog and finally pulls him off of her. The pitti owner said he had taken his dog to this park for 2 yrs with no issues and was clearly devastated by his pet's behaviour while the woman has had up to something like 12 surgeries to try and repair the damage.

[@down2business]

It sucks to hear this, but I have to agree. I used to be one of those "pits are great, it's all about the owner and how you raise them". But, I now have a pit that was raised from a puppy who at times displays this type of "brain switch" behavior. She is the perfect dog 99% of the time. Loose leash trained, walks well with other dogs (pack walks), cuddly, no food or people aggression, cute AF etc. Unfortunately... she has gone after our older dog 3x and another family dog 1x. Joel is right... they DO NOT let go if they don't want to. This dog knows "out", we practice it all the time. When she is in that mode, she does not care that I am saying (yelling) "out". A friend of ours knocked her on the head HARD, and nothing. To this day I will not let her with other dogs without a muzzle or without a gentle leader on walks. Sometimes she meets dogs and they are great! But, I just can't trust her to be off muzzle. Even with our older dog, she doesn't go after her anymore, (thanks to me body slamming her one time after she tried going after the older one with a muzzle 🙄 she finally learned I wasn't playing with her...) but I still won't let them interact unsupervised. Just wanted to share this on case anyone else experienced this. It's ok to use a muzzle if it's for the safety of the dogs and if it keeps your dog from being euthanized due to an incident. It's possible to keep your dogs separated in the same home and still give them a great life. It's okay if your pit acts like this sometimes...it doesn't mean you are a bad owner!

[@tonileahy-fripp2397]

Pit Bull being like a kid with a knife is a great analogy. My previous Heeler got pregnant to a pit bull so I chose to have that terminated. Horrible for her but I was not having Pit/Heeler puppies added to the world.

[@rptrick79]

That could potentially be a very tough mix for people! Heelers are great dogs if the right person has them but def not for the weakest of owners if ya get the wrong owner.

[@angelinacamacho8575]

thats pretty much a guard dog lol

[@CrouchingscarabflyingJ]

I think we should check peoples genes before we let them have kids. I acknowledge that I am a bad person, if I don't sort myself out before it's too late(age). Then I'm not fit to be a parent

[@poopingwhilestanding5801]

The only rimes ive had issues at a dog park is when a woman has a very dominant dog breed, and hasn't put in the work to train or socialize it. Every damn time. And then they feign surprise when their dog acts up...

[@s.b.5259]

Funny, every issue I've had is with a guy dressed like a thug who rolls up with a pit.

[@eskimo3622]

haha same @@s.b.5259

[@ozzzy3z946]

The dog park allows my dog to socialize and become more confident. It has truly benefited his mental and physical well-being.

[@lisashumac1322]

I thought so too until I saw a jack Russell die in 2 seconds because some pitbull snapped (for the first time ever at 4 years of age).

[@miraskel]

It really depends on the pitbull and the owner. My sister has a pit that will hide when a fight breaks out. My dad and i also have a pit named Nubbins who was a rescue and Bear who is an American Bulldog. Bear has killed before. The people who owned him before had a billy goat that attacked and he killed it. Bear almost didnt survive the attack and wouldn't have if he hadnt finished it. We have cameras so we've been able to witness exactly what caused the fights here. Bear never started a fight and he never meant to kill. Every fight has started from the others messing with him and he just couldn't take it anymore. And i mean like 10mins or so of them just nipping at his ears and lips and such. He snaps and a fight starts. Its when Nubbins gets involved with him. Pack mentality. Also we can make him release on command. The fights are technically our fault. We took in these two small dogs that loved to antagonize him and hang off his lips. Everyone is neutered. It is also true you cant ignore the traits of the breed of dog. I have a hound dog that will come inside and cuddle with the cats and chill with the barn cats. But if any of them get in the yard, she'll kill it. Doesnt matter if she was just cuddling with them or not. Cant train it out of her either.

[@itsbellebellebitchcosmetics]

I usually go to the small apartment dog park by my house. Went recently right after work and there were too many dogs there to monitor the whole situation. I’ve been watching more of your videos to get an understanding of dog body language and personality. when I’m at the park i try to analyze as best as i can, just so I can leave if needed because things can definitely escalate out of nowhere and very quickly. I don’t know if there’s already been a basic video done about dog body language at dog parks but I think it would be helpful. I take my medium sized german shepherd/cattle dog mix to do her laps so she can be contained off leash for her safety, in addition to the walks we do. But that’s only when there is no one or maybe 1 or 2 other dogs there.

[@ChildofGod474]

I seriously loved this podcast! It was so random, but VERY interesting. Speaking of aliens, bigfoot etc, did you guys see any of the videos or hear about the mall/alien incident in Miami on New Year's Day? Quite the rabbit hole to jump down.

[@fireballfitness170]

6:55...Great question Eric! Thanks so much for asking: "Can the pitbull be trained to let go?" And good job Joel for trying to give a specific answer as to "once he's in fight mode". I'm sure I would like to hear more on this. 32:18... Doggie daycare tips...

[@UmbreonLuv1]

There was an episode Cesar Millan did on Better Human Better Planet where he was working with a pitbull who had a super intense killing prey drive and he took them from the owner in hopes of finding someone who could control her better. It might give some insight on how to recognize and handle that kind of drive

[@fireballfitness170]

@@UmbreonLuv1 thanks, and I enjoyed your playlist on "useful information"

[@carissapaglino4591]

My puppy got bitten on the lip by an old dog at the dog park. She was only about 6 months old! Made her lip bleed. She did fight back a little but stopped when I grabbed her. First time I ever saw aggression in my puppy. All she did was go and say hello to the dog and i5 just turned and attacked her. Yes she was a little annoying because she was just a puppy. The other owners just stood there, no intervention, no correction. I’ve not been back to a dog park.

[@Taoteh11]

I got 2 Malinois. I never go to dog parks. I only go to a kind of park where there are only some trainers and Mali owners and Malis and German Shepherds. Very nice vid. Thank you.

[@mainehiker6157]

How did your area do with all the flooding? Im surprised you didn’t mention it. Maybe this was recorded prior to the flooding

[@aronrobinson8978]

Genetics genetics genetics. One has to understand the years and years of breeding of bullies. Joel is absolutely correct. Yes there is always the occasional exception to the rule. But you have to understand these dogs triggers and genes. I never ever take my working line gsd to a dog park.

[@rptrick79]

Joel, *EVERYTHING* that you described about what dogs aren't good at dog parks is 💯. Problem is I think people think this is the only way to socialize them sometimes. I've seen all that stuff first hand on different occasions when I frequented 1 by me. When I went with my old boy Frank (cattle dog mix similar to the recent nipping video) he was the type to intervene if he saw a dog getting ganged up on. He always did it in a herding manor unless he had to defend himself. Guess he thought he was the park 5-0. It's best with a balanced confident dog for sure, always a risk of some Jackass with a dog they have no business having. Worst repeat offender was a big Husky that would bully other dogs if not stood up to (owner didnt have very good control). He tried that over the back neck shit and stepped over my smaller 55-60lb Rott mix, Lincoln. *1 time*. Lincoln came out from under in a fury, teeth out and got on the Huskies back. That was the end of that happening. DOMINANCE doesn't exist though....lol. Moral of the story is if you go, know your dog, have control verbally and always be ready to intervene. Always some inherent risk whether breed or stupid owner or both. Thanks for yet another fun Thursday and some very good talking points!

[@Bionic6tothe6]

12:26 Be ready to leave the dog park. Think like Jason Bourne.

[@ItsMeShrimpy]

I’m interested on your program 💯

[@user-ze8wg1mp5p]

My previous dobie did PERFECT at the dog park. He was kind of like prince. My current dobie cannot do dog park unless hes the only dog there and if other owners of dogs w certain tendencies understood their dogs and dog AND human behavior they would also avoid the dog park when there are other dogs or dogs they're going to have dominance issues or reactivity with. I'm so sick of finding owners at the dog park hanging out like teens at recess while their dogs are acting totally inappropriate.

[@sheex410]

Firstly, KZbin viewers can manually change the HD quality resolution settings, so it's not a camera issue. Secondly, there are always those dog owners that will not clean up after their dogs, be that at dog parks, curbsides, regular parks, people's lawns, the sidewalk, on roads, etc. Thirdly, some people also get dogs or pets just as a possession and do not have any meaningful relationship with them.

[@chngdbygrace]

The only time I have taken my dog to a dog park, it was my dog and my wife's for a while. A lady brought her dog in and just dropped the leash. Her dog became aggressive with my wife's dog. The woman then let us know that her husband usually took the dog to the park because she could not control the dog and that the dog would attack other dogs and one of their grandsons. At that point it was clear we were never going to put out dogs through that, we can arrange hang outs with our friends' dogs. Really borrowing time until our yard is fenced.

[@robinnolan8006]

The uh-oh feeling, don't try to figure it out, distance yourself from the situation & listen to it. It's never wrong. I tell my kids the same thing.

[@alexisballard1459]

42:13 interesting point Joel.. i never thought about people discovering they are in fact ready ONLY by having kids, changes my perspective a bit

[@rptrick79]

After listening to this for the 2nd time I've come to the conclusion that I've been a *closet breedist* the whole time 😢. Kept my eyes on certain dogs that just seemed off to me even if it wasn't blatantly 1 purebred dog. Always been interested in the other breeds I saw so id look them up too to learn mannerisms and behaviors. Also realized that most everything Joel has said I've noticed in hindsight like the fast twitch energy etc. if you pay attention you can really see what works. At a certain point I realized my dogs didnt really give 2 shits about the other dogs at the park probably in part from being out walking in different places and they were around other dogs/ environments with friends dogs during their younger years. They just wanted to be where I was walk and run some. Dont go much at all if ever now but never really shyed away from stopping shit before it went to far (1 dog getting overwhelmed by a bunch) or similar situations. The way I figured I'd rather break it up before it happened than see some other persons dog get hurt and if someone didnt like what I did, I was ready to give them a piece of my mind too. Just kinda felt like I was doing the right thing out of common sense in a way if needed when I'd go to the park or my 1 dog would run interference instinctually. Guess I've been a part of the POD before it existed 😅

[@justdawndb]

😂 You two crack me up every single time! You wonder what makes people think you're conservative 😂 have you watched your podcast...i love that 😂 I feel like this pod could be a psa regarding vasectomies...change a person' pleasure level for life...😳 I don't think all dogs are hungry, i think they're unfulfilled, its actually fairly obvious i dare say. I think it was here that i heard five minutes per month of age for exercise/stimulation for dog two times a day...some of the best advice ive heard! Your mentorship program sounds absolutely great guys! Good for you, thats really exciting! Since people are taking their dogs into the world more now and so many behaving really badly, troubleshooters & fixers are seriously needed! Thanks Guys, i really enjoyed this! PRINCE 👑

[@hbishop8475]

The week's podcast one of my favorites. Much common sense dispensed.

[@bezelleblanc2580]

Thank you for stating the facts about the breed. My aunt has owned pitbulls and both were sweethearts while they were alive but even then I was cautious. Now I have a 7 month old pomeranian and I do not trust those kinds of dogs around her, the fact that my neighbor has a pit actually terrifies me because if my dog gets bit its game over.

[@osathegermanshepherd]

I like our dog park in Colorado Springs. It’s not without problem dogs but at 25 acres you figure out how to avoid the high traffic areas where fights are most likely to happen. Otherwise I prefer dog friendly hiking trails where you’re more likely to run into more obedient dogs.

[@OffGridDogs]

My intact male Great Pyrenees does not go to dog parks and yet we have had several attacks by dogs that were illegally off leash or the other owner lost control of their leash and most of them were pit bulls. To be fair there are a lot of pit bulls but other than one Rottweiler and one German Shepard the other 5 incidents involved pit bulls. Fortunately only one of them was hurt (my dog usually is able to submit them) but I don’t think it’s a coincidence. Some of these owners may have wanted a fight (.2 of them I suspect) . The thing about pit bulls that makes some so different is they’ve had that self-preservation instinct that dogs normally possess bred out of them.

[@OffGridDogs]

My cat wouldn’t last 5 minutes outside. He thinks he’s invincible lol

[@stevewhitaker7260]

Under no circumstances ,would I take my Malinois to a dog park.

[@ruhap9311]

I take mine, it's great for her, but she has a nervous temperament and it's like exposure therapy. My Mal is not aggressive and my other has a high social IQ. I always wonder how the Mal would do if another dog showed real aggression.

[@TheBlackelpie]

It;s good to note that Prince still enjoys checking out dog parks even though he lives at a dog park and meets a zillion new dogs every week. New environments plus new dog smells will always appeal. I needed to hear the word of caution because although I've never had a bad experience it pays to be cautious with a young intact male GSD and a fairly socially inept working herding mix. Things can go so bad so fast you don't want to spend the rest of your life wishing you'd walked away at the first red flag.

[@rylanblack8571]

I rely on a dog park because I have very high energy 20lb dogs. They have a small breed section, which makes it way safer, and I go when it’s empty early in the morning. Young dogs really need to run, and a yard doesn’t cut it sometimes in the city. I think it’s less about dog parks and more about squashing this myth that dogs need to socialize with many different random strange dogs. I learned the hard way that it’s much more effective to enroll in group puppy classes, and make friends that own nice dogs. None of my dogs have ever been bitten or harmed, but I have been attacked and bitten protecting them. Lesson learned.

[@angelinacamacho8575]

ive noticed too that the small dog areas of dog parks or those that just so happen to be over run by smaller dogs see a lot less fights.

[@SheriLoweTwilight]

I brought a Springer Spaniel puppy, age 9 months. He attempted to hump a male Doggo Argentino which I quickly stopped him from doing with a firm puppy correction. About 8 minutes later we were walking with my husky and the Spaniel. The Doggo ran to the puppy and pinned him. No harm done thankfully, plus my dominate male husky seemed unconcerned and he watches over this pup. The pup learned a valuable lesson, however 4 days later me, the puppy and the husky stepped into the dog park, dogs still leashed, and the same Doggo Argentino comes running over and pinned the puppy again by the throat. Thankfully the pup, Jack, froze, whimpered a bit and was not being harmed but I called the owner over saying "help" pretty calmly, and not exessively loud, twice. This guys SLOWLY made his way over, and the third time I called I said "help for ef sakes in louder voice. The guy comes over and gets his dog off my pup with attitude saying: I didnt have to curse, my voice agitated his dog, it remembered being humped by the puppy 4 days ago and the puppy wasn't fixed so...!!! Thankfully my husky didn't get worked up or it would of been an f-show of me against a chainlink fence wrapped and tangled in two leashes with a dog fight between a Doggo and husky with me and a puppy tangled in the mix. I discovered the guy rescued the Doggo 3 weeks prior so he didn't even KNOW this dog yet and had no right to even bring him to the dog park. Anyway, the dog doesn't go there any more so, like I warned him, he was going to have trouble with that sort of behavior.

[@eskimo3622]

love it when Joel speaks the unapologetic truth! straight from the get go

[@patrickdk77]

Being awake for it wasn't an issue for me, but it took 4years afterwards before the feel of the *knot* went away, it was uncomfortable though, not always, but randomly and often till it finally went away.

[@aussieoutbackfarm]

4:06 Pretty much every dog park has that sort of stuff happen. Those groups of people. Often almost like a dog park gang each coming in the same spot at the same time every day. Very weird indeed.