Why I am Not Impressed with the 2021 CBR600RR

[@Dr._Nope]

Certainly looks way better than the previous model!

[@Jeff_Green]

And that’s all that really matters

[@Dr._Nope]

@@Jeff_Green Yes! Lmfao

[@deathbygod5810]

I think 2020 cbr 650 tops the cbr 600. The looks are stunning.

[@mdjabedmiah1128]

What the hell ever, 2008 is the best looking😭

[@EyeForKnowledge.]

Personal preference. I happen to LOVE the look of the previous 600. I hate the looks of this new bike.

[@curtin94]

Me personally I would much rather a fuel gauge than a gear indicator.

[@Real_MisterSir]

All day everyday. Learning speed to gear ratios over a few months lets you ride without ever looking at what gear you're in, but there is no replacement for an accurate fuel indicator. Average trip calculations only work with average riding, but lets say you've been hard at it lately, you will have no idea how much is actually left until the light flashes. Fuel gauges are a must on all bikes, especially in 2020. ffs Honda, why go back on this.

[@yamkaw346]

@@Real_MisterSir I’d bet money it has one

[@jimccc9467]

Gear indicator, no need

[@Ravalock269]

I agree! You can always add an aftermarket gear indicator, if I’m not mistaken. The stock fuel gauge is one of the reasons I love the Honda. That and the ultra reliability of CBR.

[@Real_MisterSir]

@@Ravalock269 Yea that is correct, many companies even do systems that you can just plug straight to your existing electronic hardware, others just tell by monitoring when you physically change gear up and down. As you say, it's an issue that can be worked around, but lack of fuel gauge has no real replacement.

[@RevBombRR]

Yall weird, I would MUCH rather see my fuel gage that my gears. 1 down 5 up isn't too difficult to remember. If im going long distance and forget what gear im in, I just shift up until I hit 6th which only usually 1 or 2 more up. Its way less convenient than having to open my gas tank every time I ride to physically look inside the tank to figure out if I have enough fuel to get to where im going or not

[@Real_MisterSir]

It's just HeroRR I think, everyone else I know would take fuel gauge over gear indicator any day. It actually has an irreplacable function, but the gear indicator is about convenience and only really useful in the beginning when you're getting to know the bike.

[@t3hNinj0r]

Agreed. Plus it's a lot easier to add a gear indicator than a fuel gauge.

[@chaz7r]

Never realized how much I would love a gear indicator until I had one. As far as fuel gauge I have one on my MT09 but I always set the trip odometer out of habit at fill ups. At 100 miles I start looking for stations

[@ggyy6747]

Lol. Gear indicator is for riding twisty. Not straight for squid riders. 😂

[@Aberamentho2010]

$14k for a 600? Prices are getting out of control.

[@Stratocasterhead51]

Its why people buy the zx6r. Its one of the only bikes that actually offers a revised, arguably better bike than the older model, same tech for a LOWER price! People think that improvement means more electronics and higher price: wrong. Give us the same bikes with a lower price tag.

[@TheJMan1K]

There’s a 2021 here for 10K new at dealership

[@blessedyouth6483]

@@TheJMan1K which dealership?

[@genxkevin]

there is a 2021 RR near me and it lists for 11,800

[@jaszczak5149]

You can get a cbr 650 in Denmark for 16.000 dollars.

[@supergrizzidentity]

I wanted a CBR600RR when I was a teen in ‘08. When i finally had the money to buy a bike in cash, the 636 was under $10,000 with more power and features

[@lonerider3945]

Wow, i have seen this video 3years back and forgot. Now I am watching it again after the link you have shared in reply. Thank you Hero RR

[@dontsub7150]

The fireblade have a warning light for low fuel and it start to countdown how many km you have left until you run out. On my fireblade it start at ca 45 km left, but it depends on how you drive. It's an ok system and I bet it's the same for the 600rr.

[@predatorfang]

yeah but the point is that a float sensor is basically free and weighs almost nothing so why not just put it in... especially with all the new electronics.

[@mayhemmeme2907]

Also has a fuel usage trip.

[@mattingray5651]

Modern fuel indicator is totally electronics (no floating necessary) since the CPU knows exactly how much fuel is used based on how you drive. It is just a matter of programming. Now, if it has a range indicator, that would be just as good.

[@sepg5084]

@@mattingray5651 it also has to detect how much fuel is put in, that can't be done with pure calculations and would need a sensor to do it. How much does a tank float weight and cost anyway? Even the cheapest motorcycles have it.

[@jbb3675]

One of my Aprilias has a similar system that starts counting up once the light goes on solid. It's really nice actually, probably goes about 65km avg once it starts counting up.

[@basithph8958]

To be honest as a Honda fan, I think the new CBR600RR looks really good like the best looking bike in their segment imo Sure there are better performing bikes but I would still get the CBR600RR for the reliability and comfort

[@sambeezy007]

So on the scale of 1-10 how comfortable is it compared to the Ninja 400? That's what I got and looking into getting that CBR in 4 years. Keeping the 400 also

[@basithph8958]

@@sambeezy007 I never really got a chance to ride it yet but I did sit on it before and overall it's pretty comfy I would say a 9 The Ninja wasn't too bad either but I like the CBR more tho some people will prefer the Ninja for performance

[@sambeezy007]

@@basithph8958 Ok cool. I may get the CBR600 because I like comfort. The ZX6R is cheaper but less comfortable. I like performance but reliability is in my top 5 of why to get a 600cc bike. Same reason I got the 400.

[@basithph8958]

@@sambeezy007 yeah definitely go with the CBR600RR it’s a good bike!

[@sambeezy007]

@@basithph8958 can/does it have a gear indicator? It's a must have.

[@PaulA-dl7hs]

While I have looked at all your videos, and like your insight, I want to re-share something from your videos that is way more important in my opinion than all the little details. Having owned 37 motorcycles, and currently have 3 in my garage, none of which are currently sportbikes, I have decided to pick up a 2020 CBR600RR tomorrow, brand new, no miles even though it hasn't won a shootout in more than a decade. First and formost is, the comfort aspect. Having ridding over 1 million miles in my lifetime on a motorcycle, I appreciate comfort to ride all day, and multiple days, over how a bike feels for the first couple hours on the road. I bought my first CRB600 back in 1994, and rode it up and down the coast and central mountains of California more times than I can remember with a smile on my face every time i got on it. Second, I have never had any sort of bike failures on any Honda I have owned, and I am definitely not a "Honda Fan", as they are usually not my choice when looking at the overall line of bikes. I sat on all the new 600's and my least favorite was the Kawasaki, because my wrists hurt, just sitting on it on the showroom floor. The Honda had the best ergonomics, as I am 6'1" and 215 lbs. with long legs. The Suzuki was second best, but the seat was hard as a rock. The Yamaha was just to cramped for my overall size. Reliability is a big plus compared to the European brands, mostly in the electronics, and the 2020 model from Honda is the last year of the old electronics, which means that there is a ton of aftermarket performance and styling features available. I am close with the guys at Dynojet, and every time a manufacturer has updated their ECU's, due to emissions, noise, and safety requirements from the EPA, they have issues, and the bikes are almost unhackable. Bench tuning seems to be taking the place of aftermarket tuners in both cars and bikes. Which voids the warranty, and god forbid you have to take the bike into a dealer for service and he plugs it into the factory computer, and wipes away your custom tune, just to fix a simple little idiot light issue. At $2K less than a 2021, which they are not dealing on, since Covid, and production stoppages, and the cost of containers from overseas going up 4X what they were at the beginning of 2020, these bikes will price themselves out of the market. Fortunately, at my age, insurance rates are not what they were in my 20"s. A 22 year old (which I know well) had to sell his 600cc sportbike, because his insurance was $350/month, which is more than a bike payment in that price range. The other features I like about the 2020, is the fuel gauge, which disappeared for 2021. Being used to long trips, and planning out gas stops, knowing your fuel levels, as you pass towns and remote gas stations in the middle of nowhere, you get an idea that when your gauge is a 1/4 tank, and you see a station out in the boonies, you stop and fill up. Also, I have had serious VCM glitches with my fully electronic gauges, with all the ride mode, traction control, abs, and multi screen units, on my current Indian Challenger, my previous Ducati Mulistrada, Triumph Tiger, and KTM Adventure bike. Why the motorcycle manufacturers cannot build in completely reliable electronic dash boards like the auto manufacturers is beyond me. Maybe the heat and vibration, and compact size create issues you don't have in a car or truck. So back to the 600. After graduating to the 1000cc class with my next 2 sportbikes from Suzuki, then back to Honda, I found that the 1000's were just too much overkill in power, and got me freaked out too many times coming into corners too hot, because the accelleration is so quick, you hardly have time to think. The 600 with it's light weight and good brakes allows fast corner entries with mid corner corrections possible, as well as feeling fast coming out of the corner, while not actually going that fast. Remember, this is the street, not the track. And there is gravel and debris, and you are not really racing anyone (except maybe a buddy that you are just messing with). So any thoughts on my mindset or my decision are welcome!

[@HooligansMx]

I for the most part 100% agree!! It annoys me that with all these videos on cbr600s everybody gets soooo hung up on the emissions stuff out into these bikes now failing to realize that aftermarket support is huge especially if the bike no longer has a warranty it is not hard to find catless downpipes/headers programmable ecus etc my buddy has a 2020 and he really didn't care about the warranty and went ahead and pretty much eliminated anything to do with emissions on his bike it sounds amazing and he absolutely smokes my 2007 600. So ok you have to spend a little more money to get the power out of the 600s than you used to because of the emissions stuff when everyone should just be happy the us isn't as strict as Europe when it comes to bikes

[@calebcantrell9115]

@@HooligansMx So what exactly do you mean by catless downpipes/headers? How easy is the install and how much do you spend? I'm guessing you would need a dyno tune after right?

[@undisputed1one]

I love this channel. Plain and simple.

[@lj2426]

Honestly, I think they did that with the weight because the 600 is supposed to prepare you for the 1000, just gets you use to it because most want to upgrade to the 1000 soon after anyway. It’s the only thing that makes sense to me on why just two pounds

[@orlando00900000]

Two pounds off the 1000 that’s crazy

[@Ricardo4788]

Honestly I don't see the big deal about 20 pounds especially when I could stand to lose 40-60 myself.... Lol

[@ThermicLight]

@@Ricardo4788 - The weight matters because it's a key characteristic as to why people buy mid-weight bikes as it feels nicer into the corners. As such if you have the additional funds then one might as well buy the 1000cc

[@Ricardo4788]

@@ThermicLight trust me I get that but your own weight get added to the total weight. So I was making a joke about how I can compensate for it by losing weight

[@andrewmai1541]

Where did you get the 428 lbs figure for weight. The US Honda web page says 410 lbs.: powersports.honda.com/street/supersport/cbr600rr/specifications

[@jdamage5002]

I bet it's from the stock exhaust.. Those things weigh a lot.

[@BoopBobBeep]

My guess is Honda is focus on the 1000cc triple R. Since probably the sale of litre bike will be more than the 600cc they did not want to spend too much R&D on the 600cc.

[@Real_MisterSir]

That doesn't explain why they keep "updating" the 600 then. If they truly don't believe in it, then they should just scrap the 600 class entirely and make something else like a 750RR or maybe a 500RR to compete with Aprilia's new RS660. Sticking with the 600 and devolving it to make it worse every generation is just a poor marketing decision in all regards.

[@truevegas]

@@Real_MisterSir Heck yes! I'd buy a 750RR in a heartbeat 👍🏻

[@Shaziek]

Im just happy it finally has a gear indicator

[@GoblinRides]

Yeah as you said, unfortunately, we can't get the 2021 600RR in the UK :( I have a 2003 model 600RR in our videos, its such an epic bike!

[@snapcountersteer]

The 1000 vs 600 weight comparison part reminded me how gosh darn gorgeous the 17' fireblade(?) is. The CBR1000R³ isn't bad by any means but it doesn't hold a candle to the previous one, it's just perfect to my eyes!

[@lonewolfriding3815]

I have a 17 plate fireblade , they really are good bikes , throttles a bit crap stock but after a remap and full system etc it runs a dream and 183 rwhp

[@KeystoneTexan]

Honda should just scrap the 600 all together and come out with a badass Honda CBR 750RR

[@HeroRR]

At this point. I agree.

[@MADLITS1K]

Will never happen, cost

[@sambeezy007]

Or CBR550RR? 🤷 Sorta in between the Ninja 400 and CBR600

[@alfienichols9524]

@@HeroRR I think the 06 is the best 1000 blade

[@ImranPangilinan]

750's are an even more dying breed lol

[@TheHomeExpert5]

They should put the turn signals in the winglets, not in the mirrors.

[@willfischer4767]

14 grand really Honda. Why would somebody pay that when you can get a zx6 for 10k that is lighter and has more power. I had high hopes for the new miniblade, but in my personal opinion Honda did not bring enough to the party.

[@sswcubes]

The honda is overpriced. But the zx6 looks like a bug and is ugly compared to the cbr600rr. Unless you prefer ugly motorcycles, i would understand.

[@yanzi1957]

Dang it ain’t ugly

[@patq1924]

@@sswcubes bruh the CBR600RR looks like it was dropped on its head as a blueprint baby. The Zx6r looks refined and like a bullet. Its more comfortable with a better engine too

[@PEZ1514]

its a piece of crap. They dont even care to sell it.

[@technine9662]

I've always been a honda fan but that's exactly what o was thinking not that much of a fan to pay 4 grand more for less of a bike.

[@pauls6526]

By not integrating the turn signals into the mirrors, it allows the owner to swap out the mirrors to a style of their choice more freely.

[@zyonsdream]

Funny how this bike has gotten on the podium 3 times in MotoAmerica in the Stock1000 class in just the first weekend of racing. That’s, 2nd on saturday and 2 and 3 on sundays race. Got a top 10 finish in MA Superbike in its first week. It also did very well in 2020 season of WSBK when Haslem and Bautista weren’t busy chucking it down the track. Race on Sunday sell on Monday isn’t real anymore but the Fireblade is and will continue to prove itself on the track. I’ve also seen 3 of these bikes in the wild so I guess they are selling in Eastern PA.

[@6tdegrees]

Honda is working on euro 5 emissions for this bike. They announced it not that long ago. Pretty keen to see this bike in the flesh, will be an interesting ride non the less

[@elithegreat6463]

The CBR 600 is one of the most reliable Bikes/Engines ever to come from Honda

[@jmannUSMC]

I think if I have a job next year, this bike will be next to my 2005 CBR600RR in my garage. The quick shifter up and down is what sold me. The slipper clutch is a welcome touch too but seems un needed with the quick shifter.

[@lmatos369]

Your description is spot on accurate

[@Synthwave89]

Probably one of the best looking bikes ever made. Honda really nailed it.

[@alanr4845]

Second to the R6 IMO. But I would definitely buy this instead.

[@marcusgeorge1825]

I think the additional rider aids will make it a much better bike package. It certainly looks better and I was also surprised with Honda keeping the under seat exhaust and not finally changing it to something like the 1000. The 18 lbs? Really won’t make a difference as I’m sure they will have it in the right place (a small trade for higher tech). The indicators, you have a valid point however like the “weight” those things are removed when the thing is stripped down, all lights removed, stock fairings changed for far lighter ones for its ultimate purpose. To win on the race track! The increase to the rev limiter will help that and it never about which bikes make more power anyway. Traction control/anti wheelie is something to argue about. Is it needed on a bike that doesn’t really make much torque? I don’t know about you but if your sitting on a starting grid at full rpm 2 seconds before the lights turn green, the difference on getting a good start and bad can make a huge difference in where you finish. Overall the bikes gets a big thumbs up from me! I would have it over the 1000 mainly because who really can get anywhere near what that bike is capable of achieving. Anyway loved hearing your thoughts. Keep up the great work! 👍😎

[@HeroRR]

Thank you!! I appreciate your input you make some very valid points!

[@sorrow_rr]

Wouldn't change my 07' 600rr for 2021 even if it was key for a key. I don't need ABS or electronic aids, and you can always add a quickshifter and gear indicator on 07'

[@1MrBryn]

I literally didn't know this update exsisted until today when I went into a Honda shop doing some glove shopping. The wings do look pretty Rad though.

[@Firestorm637]

Electronic throttles are needed for emissions which makes TC and modes possible. Euro 5 is OBD 2 with lifelong emission monitoring vs previous 12,000 miles monitoring

[@maximosay84]

Ah, nothing like a good video of the hero telling some true in the morning

[@dancarlos1216]

600s havent been updated for 10+ years, thats why 1000s are just as light now. I have a 06 GSXR600 and its definitely in the same boat as the CBR. The older stuff is cheaper and just as good if you want to do some maintenance that other owners never seem to do.

[@victorandrade7940]

I have an 08 GSXR 750 and a 14 GSXR 1000. The 08 is pretty much perfect. Don't need anything more. I wanted the extra torque for passengers.

[@dancarlos1216]

@@victorandrade7940 yeah man, in another year or two I might swap in a 750 engine, honestly I like the smaller engines on track, I’m pretty aggressive rider and the smaller bikes are more forgiving.

[@andyb.6721]

I had my 07 600rr since 2010 and still is my favorite bike

[@van5910]

FYI, i have a 2019 CBR 1000RR with the same TFT Screen Display, it does have a Fuel gauge ,it's hidden. You have to go thru your menu Settings, like for example, where you see Rev's, right below the CBR Logo, right bottom corner, you would go thru Settings up/down arrow ↕️ button and change Rev to Gal ,which would read ( Gal 4.8 ). So basically it's digital by gallons and numbers, it would start counting backwards, like 3.8 then 2.8 then 1.8 and that's how 🤔 you would monitor your gas ⛽.

[@hby7768]

The reason I wouldn’t want turn signals in the mirrors is when I’m taking the mirrors off for the track i dont have to worry about the wires and reconnecting a wireless mirror is really fast. It does look better but not practical for a race bike that happens to be street legal. For the other bikes, they are street bikes first and foremost.

[@Fershky98]

Why can’t I find any of them with the dashboard update , in dealerships or even on the webpage there are no pictures of the dashboard

[@kramerguitars204]

About time Honda updated the 600rr

[@gsxraiders]

Me: Suzuki designers must have the easiest jobs. Honda Engineer(s): *doesn't even hear me*

[@cw205mi16]

UK (and European) market have not seen the 600rr since 2017. You can tell it's a near 20yr old bike with updates, it does look good at the front though (but I also think the 13-17 is nice too). I wish the tail was shorter with corresponding shorter exhaust so it looks a bit more tucked, instead of rear heavy/overhang (I bet most owners never carry a pillion).

[@denniscarparts2294]

The 2006 cbr600rr is the best 👌 599cc Honda ever made. I used my 06 cbr to give out whopping to newer 600cbr, 636zx6, 750gsx, 800cc, an all i did was some simple tweaks. 1. Cat delete ( the little honeycomb looking thing in the lower end of muffler) The stock header had a cross pipe that no aftermarket exhaust had. This is why I kept it. You have to understand honda, to know how to tweek them. 2. Stock exhaust muffler bored out. 3. TPS sensor advance. 4. Lowered a few inches. 5. 1000cbr fuel pump. 6. I solder most of the wires, for less resistance in ecm communications. The bike came alive, the response was faster than when it was brand 😳 new.

[@horneblendeandcamguy]

Honestly, even if the 07-08 is the best gen stock, they're all pretty much the same with a flashed ECU & tune. Tbh I'd rather have a 2013+ with better suspension and a tune, then you get best of both worlds.

[@HeroRR]

See I’d rather have a 07-08 with 13+ forks. ;)

[@horneblendeandcamguy]

@@HeroRR aesthetically, yes lol. But that's the nice thing about them using the exact same engine in all the years, they're all capable of the same output, just gotta flash the restrictions away.

[@sambeezy007]

@@horneblendeandcamguy you know what they say, "if it ain't broke don't fix it" what if they tried to change it and found it to be disappointing? Just food for thought

[@Jopakilo]

HeroRR and equipped projector light with led and all electronic would be the my dream bike Btw the mirror is so ugly on 2021 and previous gen.

[@jbb3675]

@@Jopakilo You're better off just getting aftermarket LED lights and putting them in yourself. Much less expensive, significantly better lights and still retain the stock look.

[@Canuck307]

Still love my 06. May be bias, but the most aggressive styling of the 600RR. Have owned it since 06 still cant use it's full potential, so I guess.... I will stick with it.

[@THEOvERSiZEDMeATBALL]

I still think the 2003-2006 cbr600rr were the best looking models by far...

[@bertzx9r894]

The weight shouldn't be too much concern as the changing of the exhaust will bring the weight back down. Amd its not that the 6 is heavy just that the 1000s are now very light!

[@tobiaskreisz9427]

i have a 2005 cbr600rr and i believe its the best looking by farrrrr

[@rush2redline]

Checking in... It's not coming to USA :/

[@basithph8958]

The new CBR600RR looks really awesome and I really really like it But I do agree with you the best gen is the 07-08 model hopefully Honda can make it a better performing bike this time

[@Stanthemanisawesome]

Increased weight might be due to cornering abs? the combine abs on the previous version added like 20pounds

[@archiewilson4943]

You are 100% correct sir. This bike is actually lighter and more powerful than the 08. I own an 07 and would seriously consider replacing it with this bike.

[@ThermicLight]

@@archiewilson4943 - How is it lighter? Put 20 pounds into a backpack and you'll notice the difference. All of which effects overall performance.

[@archiewilson4943]

@@ThermicLight the 2020 weighs 434 as per Honda's website with the ABS. The 21 is 428 with ABS. How is this hard to understand? HeroRR was just too lazy to look it up. He should retract this video.

[@ThermicLight]

@@archiewilson4943 - Fair point. Although I don't even really know why ABS is really all that required on these bikes. Namely as they brake very well without it.

[@Real_MisterSir]

@@archiewilson4943 The difference is that a lot of the weight from adding ABS comes from the extra physical ABS components, extra cables, software box, etc. Having cornering ABS uses most of the existing physical hardware from regular ABS, so the weight increase won't be nearly as drastical as comparing a non ABS bike to one with ABS. Cornering ABS is mainly software based technology and a small gyroscopic sensor - all of which can fit in a smartphone package, if you wanna compare weight difference.

[@rem362]

He's not impressed because it doesn't have 3 R's ;)

[@timbarry5080]

That zx6 you flashed looks badass

[@professor6723]

How can I get a brand-new 2008 and where to go? My favorite model was the 2006

[@ItachiRyu]

even if you were impressed you weren't going to buy it anyway.

[@DermotiusOfficial]

its called public opinion

[@mikef1411]

Its sooo expensive 😆

[@Interceptor101]

In my country, this bike is more expensive than 1000cc bike.

[@raywcksn]

@@Interceptor101 you can get zx10r for the price of one of these. I think they wrote the price tag wrong 🤣

[@calebcantrell9115]

How could you get a newer (as in 2021-2022) CBR600rr up to the performance of the older models?

[@azuma9051]

Really hate those turn signals but those aren't big issues, the problem is why they removed that fuel gauge....those are pretty important in my opinion....

[@Benfermics]

Can someone explain to me why the USA model doesn't have the new display just the analog?

[@JetCooper3D]

Great video as always RR

[@frank.l181]

07' 08' are beautiful bikes! Light weight and the power is strong in mid to high!

[@Jason.cbr1000rr]

And the damn engine is too reliable my goodness... i rode/comute to work for 3 years daily and added 35k kms on the odometer, with a micron then toce slip on and the engine never missed a beat, i cannot believe how reliable they are. I now have an r6 cos i wanted to try it after smashing my cbr600rr 07/8 to bits... the r6 throws codes and everything sometimes... fml. I miss the cbr and i am forever a honda cbr guy.. i qant the 2012 cbr1krr in white they are so sexy. And ofcourse have back my cbr600rr. I will collec5 them all one day!

[@aliatwi1300]

I love my 2018 model as much as u love your 08. Got influenced into getting all the mods u got. I'm pushing 108hp to the wheel now. It's not about what kind of bike, it's what you have on the bike.

[@FlameHazeist]

Should've gotten a liter bike if you wanted more hp.

[@kevinhernandezretana2170]

@FlameHazeist weighing less that 410lbs makes the 600rr much more flickable and improves the power to weight ratio...AND the oc said he's pushing 100+ hp?! nah bro, he did good modding up his LIGHTER 600rr

[@TheMrodla]

I think the curb weight will help on sharp turns withe Michelin racing tires . My 2006 always slids even in am down shifting straight forward .

[@hondaguyrr5132]

You always make great videos !!

[@sergioberettademenezes5291]

I miss the white, red and blue cbr's.

[@Firestorm637]

Many bikes may die as manufacturers may not place R & D into Euro 5 conversions

[@rafaellastracom6411]

Spot on. Weight is everything.

[@NYGiantsDiEhArD]

I like how this generation CBR600rr is aesthetically similar to the 1000rr which has been aesthetically improved since 2017. I never liked the looks of the CBR1000rr from 2008 to 2016 while the CBR600rr still looked great. The 1000rr looked awesome before 2008 and basically matched the look of the 600, but from 2008 to 2016, they went with that big round front end with the small tail section and boring bodywork throughout on the 1000. Finally, the 600 looks like the 1000 again, which is good because the 1000 looks good again.

[@samp6512]

Oh! I've been waiting for this, thanks :)

[@TheJalopy80]

Won’t come to the US

[@samp6512]

@@TheJalopy80 Its already available in Australia, hopefully, it comes to New Zealand too... :)

[@Colmilloags]

I have seen many cbr600rr 2021 with the analog speedometer, why do you say that the 2021 already has the digital speedometer? I do not understand!

[@llerradish]

For street riders, the weight doesn't matter. You may think it does, but it doesn't. If anything it might make it more comfortable and stable on the road. As far as gas gauge, IMO you don't need one. A tripometer is the best gas gauge ever made. Gear indicator? I don't need one. I have been riding for 40 years and never thought to myself, man I wish I had a gear indicator! Cornering ABS? I don't want it. For one thing, how are suppose to learn how to use the proper brake control and body position if your bike is making adjustments for you? Two if it's not working properly, how would you know? If it has flaw or intermittent glitch, what's that going to do for? Three If your getting away with some poor riding habits and the bike compensating for it, what going to happen if you hop on a bike that doesn't have it, or is configured differently? You may not have skills and experience to figure it out for yourself. And that's my opinion on regular ABS as well. I know it can keep a rider from going down when they don't have good brake control, but how are you suppose to learn to do it right yourself? Just my opinion.

[@garrettallman3832]

Exactly what I was thinking. Half of these people don't know how to ride properly on the track and none of the things they have added will really help anyone learn. And the nitpicking of the small aesthetic choices that Honda made makes me laugh because everyone just throws some chinese turn signals and mirrors on anyway lol. Its seems like a lot of riders that I meet today are just buying bikes solely off of HP numbers and how they look, and all just so they can go ride them on the highway and not use any of the actual capabilities of the bike. And I also dont understand the gear indicator debacle. Yes it is nice to have but damn if you cant tell what gear your in while riding then you probably shouldnt be on a CBR600 in the first place. It just seems that all of the young guys are buying sport bikes just to put it on instagram and tag it "bike life yo" and never truly learn any mechanics of riding. I think this is a big reason why companies just cant sell anymore and the whole motorcycle industry is hurting.

[@markjackson7650]

Honestly comments like this make me glad that manufacturers don't listen to knuckle draggers. There is not a single logical reason not to want abs on a road bike. It literally makes the bike safer tenfold as it allows you to brake as hard the bike can at any given moment. Instead of just locking up and spitting you off. Even the pros get it wrong from time to time so what chance does an everyday rider have of never making a mistake their whole life two wheels.

[@garrettallman3832]

@@markjackson7650 Well manufacturers do listen to the community somewhat. All the changes to yamahas bikes are a result of track riders and MotoGp testing. Those bikes are great and the corner abs units are excellently engineered pieces of kit. But you do not need this for street riding whatsoever. You are right it does make the bike safer and I feel more comfortable having abs on a bike especially in bad weather conditions. But the new mid corner abs systems that are coming out are really not necessary, and you shouldnt push that hard on the street anyway. Im not saying get rid of it, but talk to any track veteran and they will say the same thing: you learn by experience and if you never experience the sensation of slipping in a corner at speed, then you will not be prepared for when it inevitably happens. The difference between the pros and an everyday rider is that the pro most likely started on dirt with absolutely zero traction control or abs. They apply this to the track and get better. The new sportbikes coming out arent "road bikes" either, they are designed for the track and that has been the focus of the engineering behind them for the last decade.

[@markjackson7650]

@@garrettallman3832the road is where rider aids make the most sense. Road riding is not about being able to push hard and test your skill against other riders. Its about enjoying your bike at a comfortable and safe pace along with other road users. Abs on a road bike is to allow you to stop or slow down if a situation arises when you are leaning over mid corner. Granted even with abs if you have to brake hard mid corner you're probably still going down. But you stand a far better chance with it. After all riding on the street is all about enjoying your bike safely not just your safety but the safety of other road users. No matter who you are at some point you'll run out of skill and if abs can save you in those moments then it's worth its weight in gold. Anyone who can't underrated that is brain dead knuckle dragger that shouldn't be near a bike on the road.

[@will2461-j2n]

I do agree that everyone should be able to to ride a bike without the need of aids but that doesn't mean having them is bad thing. Abs could save you sliding on a manhole in the dark.

[@nikolager23]

I didn't know they refreshed it, and it's 2023 now and saw that it's discontinued, probably due to the cbr650r available

[@anthonyreyes8536]

Just bought a 2021 cbr600rr abs.....4th one made 🙌

[@Onionon408]

Holy shit, i wish you a lot of fun mate.

[@seinfeld11123]

just about to get a 08 CBR66 RR. so excited. I think they are the nicest bikes. undertail exhaust!! can you put the 1000cc brakes onto them?

[@seinfeld11123]

@Joshua Langley lol ok

[@hunterfields2106]

Sorry hate on me all you want but. I had a 2010 hyosung gt250r. Loved that bike. All the features on that bike were perfect. I like the look of the metal panted tank. I hate the look of plastic molded over the tank. Just shape the tank to match the lines of the bike. Throttle by cable and very basic electronics. Analog tax and a digital speedo, Absolutely perfect combination. And the look of the duel break calibers were on point. It was a 250 v twin, Yes a v twin. It’s power was always there at any point in the rev range. But y can’t a 600 be that simple. A simple gauge cluster, basic electronics and a look that is simple in design but look beautiful.

[@geraldburmeister9637]

If you like the bike but not the price just wait a couple years and buy a left over. I bought a left over 18 1000rr for $12,135 out the door this past July. Didn't really want to buy new but the used ones I found were all trash for over 6k.

[@Subi_doo]

So what the hell added all the weight? An IMU and abs controller?

[@Thatonepersonz]

Gear indicator!! Finally caught up with 70s Suzuki!

[@Tysk_10]

*Smiles in 1999 F4* Btw, you should definitely try an F4

[@Anthony-qh1xv]

hey HERO RR, nice vid!! so I just got a CBR 650r, is the engine reliable?

[@chrrisshankelyahoo]

As a 2014 cbr 600 double r owner I would say that the 2014 model aka 3rd generation is better due to weight and the new things are cool enough to add that much weight to the bike .. I have a aftermarket blinking brake light on my bike already with integrated turn signals so it's not that much new stuff to say the new Gen is better.. I'll stuck to the 2014 cbr 600rr all the way

[@JoaoPCavalcanti]

Hated the looks of the 2013 model too, the new one looks much better. The newest 636 looks way worse than the previous model now.

[@barbieandbellaadventuresby9134]

Love your videos. Pls do a ride/review on this bike.

[@HeroRR]

If i get the chance i will i promise! Thanks!

[@m0rph3u1st]

Thank you for your video. I have to agree with all your remarks about this new RR model. Honestly I don't understand what Honda is doing or planning to do. In the latest years all I see (in Europe, at least) is seeing Honda running after the Adventure segment trying to take a piece of the BMW Adventure market with the Africa Twin and not much more than that. I love Honda bikes, but if I had to buy a new bike, I probably wouldn't buy any Honda. I don't feel "represented" in their current catalog. You mentioned corner ABS and the fact is that all Euro bikes have it from Aprilia to KTM. Despite Euro brands call it by their brand names, it all sums up to Bosch MSC system. I think I would even risk and buy an Aprilia or Ducati. I know that they are not as reliable or even cheaper to maintain as a Honda, but... Even today I saw the new Aprilia RS600 and she's a beauty. Expensive, as well, but looks very good and with top components. You should take a look into it. Honda using an old engine is killing the 600RR, like they did with the VFR 800F, IMHO

[@techo61]

I agree wholeheartedly on the front indicators and housing them in the mirrors would have been cheaper. As for the fuel gauge, I've never seen an accurate one so a light is enough (in fact even no light works for me, turn the tap to reserve then you're focused on the next stop). 428lbs for a 2021nmodel 600, WOW! My 2003 CBR954RR is lighter, I don't understand why is Honda is going backwards, all the new electronics can't weigh that much sureely?

[@roetietoe]

I remember a time that in the middle of the highway passing other cars.. the bike cuts off and you had to quickly change the tap to reserve.

[@emersonbragaiv]

im pretty sure the fuel gauge is still there and you can click thru the tft display

[@fulfillingtv2918]

07 and 08 is truly the best ones.

[@jmx318]

I thought they stopped making these bikes

[@hawaiisilver9141]

Is the USA version of the 2021 cbr600rr different from the Japanese version? No tft digital display??? No winglets???

[@cmd_76]

I had the 2017 year and it was awesome. Looking to see what the new Aprilia RS660 will be like

[@ryanl3407]

Why dont they put the turn signals in the winglets?

[@frenchtoast-d7u]

I honestly think that Honda ought to use the chassis from the CBR600 along with a 700-900cc engine (with around 120 hp) for a middle weight naked bike as well. They’d get a ton more for their R&D money and it’s a class where Honda is absent for some reason. Yeah, I know they’ve got the CB650R, but no one who’s in the market for something along the line of a MT09 or Z900 is even going to consider the Honda.

[@parkyt13]

I still love my '16 600rr even though everyone hates that generation. But im not getting a new 600 lol. Ill get a 1000rr for track days and long rides and stunt my 600rr.

[@TwoGunz2008]

I would rather a fuel gauge than a gear indicator if you need to be reminded all the time what gear you're in then....... but yes when i travel i do like to know how much fuel i have its way more convenient.

[@erichodgson6839]

Couldnt you just put an exhaust and a tune on the 08+ to make the same or more power?

[@user-np2ne9qf2w]

You can buy a gear indicator but good luck finding an after market fuel gauge!

[@Saidul0_0]

Waiting for zx14r rebuild

[@gustavoborges2356]

Wouldn't be ZX14R Rebuild?

[@Saidul0_0]

@@gustavoborges2356 lol wrote 0 instead of 4

[@baggedtuned8569]

the digital display and the winglets did not come with the new 2021 600RR. its the same exact dash and no winglets. i know bc i own one

[@bryanrose2384]

Tbh turn signaks rarely look bad and this is no exception there fine

[@illbill334bb]

I highly agree. The weight doesn't make sense even if the horse power is boosted a little. I think my 2016 or your 2008 could take it simply because of the weight difference.

[@saltyprocrastinator]

Great overview Hero, can't wait for some hands-on reviews when this thing is out there. Wonder if I'll start seeing the CBR make a comeback to the track too

[@JR-li4ik]

How are you sure they are bringing this one to USA??

[@ange1vega]

I’m in love with my 2004 🔥🔥🔥🔥