Why I Am Still Using Linux - And Won't Change It

[@jakin314]

I've been using Linux full time for 7+ years now. Can't imagine going back to Windows. In these 7 years Linux taught me sooo much about computers that 20 years on Windows didn't.

[@NeuralNine]

Troubleshooting sucks while doing it but you learn so much and I am actually grateful for all the frustrated sessions.

[@bevg1]

over 15 years and i am so used to it...

[@NeuralNine]

Switching back would be a nightmare.

[@mak448a]

Switched a few years ago to Mint, then Solus, then Fedora GNOME, and now I'm on Fedora KDE. Really nice operating system! Development is nice on Linux. I don't have to reach for that backslash. Things like Unity Engine don't support fractional scaling on Linux, but it's okay since I don't use Unity too much.

[@NeuralNine]

Yes, there are specific pieces of software that don't run smoothly. If the Linux systems take a larger percentage of the desktop PC market, these things would change too.

[@sujayxaradhya]

​@@NeuralNineyeah you are absolutely right!

[@fabricio4794]

i Agree with You,i work for myself,so i work only with Free and Open Source Apps and i can do Any Online Job without Proprietary and Closed Source Software,i dont come back,im not an Adobe Slave,and Micrisoft is a down to the hill company,an outdated 90s Company,otherwise im With IA,new open source apps,i make my money,pay my bills,using de contaminated Software,i Recycle Machines with Linux,because we need to not Discharge Eletronics so fast on the Nature,Linux is Eco Friendly and is good for Environment.

[@aijokker]

What do you do?

[@Oodle-ox2vf]

Yep, quite agree. I wrote M$ apps from DOS to Win7. I made lots of money, but as a developer I was aware of the REAL M$ agenda, and eventually I moved to Linux. Used Linux as a hobby for years, so it was not hard to do. Since I retired. I changed my Office/Lab & house fully to Linux. My wife uses Win at work, but uses Linux mint on her laptop at home. Took her 5 minutes to figure it out, she would never change back. The main thing holding Linux back is that when a Noob asks a question, they don't get a straight answer. The gurus are hell bent on showing how clever they are, and can be very rude, or dismissive. It gives the impression that you have to be a terminal expert to do anything, when in fact everything can be done in a GUI, just like Win.

[@NeuralNine]

Yeah, the Linux community is oftentimes quite elitist. I get it, Linux is fun and everyone likes to mention that they use Arch btw. But getting "normies" onto Linux full-time would benefit the whole ecosystem.

[@theritchie2173]

How do you know when you shouldn't take someone seriously? When they repeatedly use "M$" unironically. Linux is great, obsessive pandering Linux acolytes? Not so much.

[@thiesenf]

There's no way to set up a cron Job under Linux Mint in a graphical way... I wish I am wrong about that though...

[@ProfShibe]

Switched from win11 to Ubuntu on my desktop and Arch on my laptop. Loving it. I've done mac and windows for a while but now I can't imagine going back since they feel so clunky especially when I use hyprland and navigate purely with the keyboard (hypr + nvim btw). Would recommend to anyone to try it for a while, and on real hardware. Dual boot if you need. Most people watching this channel are probably devs so it really won't be an issue for you at all. I've also had windows bluescreen, randomly break my wifi on the os (had to reinstall the entire OS to fix), and randomly wipe my entire SSD and break itself playing certain poorly made games (tarkov for example, and it happened multiple times). Not taking those chances anymore.

[@NeuralNine]

This man has so much coding street cred. Arch, hyprland and nvim. Real G.

[@zemonsim]

Switched to Arch Linux for the last couple of months (btw). It took me a while to configure and customize everything, but once it's done, the system is really good. So good that I only switch back for the MS Office suite and other tools that I have to use Windows for. I only have problems when I have to install something new that wasn't planned for Arch, other than that, I rarely have to troubleshoot my system (and I didn't break it yet). I'm actually so used to it that I often use my workspace switching keybinds on Windows and find out it doesn't work lol.

[@NeuralNine]

I have still not used a rolling release distro for a longer period of time. I think I am scared of updates breaking my system.

[@abdelilah_hmidani]

@NeuralNine it's a great operation system 💪

[@Serpensin]

Thanks for btop. I didn't know that one. I immediately like it way more than htop.

[@NeuralNine]

Yes, I think it's better in every way.

[@scarabek]

7 years full time on linux Mint (entrepreneur & employee), actually all my computers using only linux, mainly Mint, but I have one on Ubuntu. When I have to use Windows (employment), I really hate it a I really do not do anything on Win so far. For gaming I run Xbox Series X. When it is too complex, I solve it other way. Same with cellphone, good old dumb phone, but with modern technologies without Android or iOS - CAT B40. It`s all about preferences and your needs and if you do it in steps, it is possible.

[@NeuralNine]

My hope is that we won't need as many workarounds in the future. But for this more people would have to use Linux systems as their main OS. Then companies would be stupid if they don't invest the time and effort into making everything compatible.

[@Serpensin]

@@NeuralNine Same. There are actually only a few (important for me) programs, that I need and only run on Windows.

[@abhishekpardhi]

There is so much that I learn from you every time. Thank you so much ♥️

[@NeuralNine]

Thanks for watching! :)

[@DM-py7pj]

0:39 love that background

[@NeuralNine]

Has a nice vibe, especially at this time of the year :)

[@ajoyjohn6903]

​@@NeuralNinewhat is the wallpaper name

[@NeuralNine]

It's from a GitHub repo: github.com/Narmis-E/onedark-wallpapers The name is autumn I think.

[@abrahamsimonramirez2933]

I've mostly used debian based distros and tried NixOS when it came out, I gotta go back and try NixOS again and also fedora

[@NeuralNine]

I like Debian-based distros, because of compatibility and availability of packages.

[@abc_cba]

I read "amd ryzen 7 5800" in the CPU and I liked the video. I judge people based on their CPU processors, haha Jokes apart, i am amazed how so much of the Dev community has adopted AMD, love it!

[@NeuralNine]

AMD had such a bad reputation back in the day but nowadays I prefer it over Intel.

[@hiru92]

it is a bad habit in long run ,

[@abc_cba]

@@hiru92 it was a joke, I won't judge anyone like that.

[@hiru92]

​@@abc_cba that is why you mentioned it at the first place

[@Shinika01]

What a great content for us, honestly... I had questions for a while that you answered in this video, thanks for your input. I learned a lot, as usual lol.

[@NeuralNine]

Glad it helped! Especially happy if it helps to get more people to use Linux :)

[@mickeyd306]

I'm a proud Linux Mint user. I am concerned over privacy and didn't want to be a part of telemetry anymore on Windows. It was worth the switch over a year ago. I'm definitely glad I took the time to move over to Mint.

[@NeuralNine]

Awesome!

[@danielcs88]

You're absolutely right you would enjoy MacOS over Windows. The only things I can't get anywhere from Windows are IrfanView (XNViewMP is close but not relatively) and TCUP (which you can get similar programs but not as good). I ran Linux as my daily driver for almost 6-7 years. The only reason I wouldn't go back is the need for more priority for development in large enterprise software. For example, during the pandemic, running Zoom on Linux was an inferior experience to what they offer on Windows and MacOS. Spotify on Linux is another example. I find it similar to phone apps between Android and iOS. However, you can't beat Linux in terms of customization and sheer leanness in a system. From time to time, I do miss the elegant simplicity that Linux provides. MacOS is a nice second because of its Unix component.

[@NeuralNine]

I still hope that more companies start taking Desktop Linux seriously one day and start developing for it. The user base needs to grow.

[@judgegroovyman]

Your points are solid. Fyi Irfanview is specifically supported by wine so you should be able to run it on mac and linux. Good luck no matter what!

[@essetee]

flatpak install irfanview

[@redeux]

Appreciate the video. I've still been on windows but am committed to switch once i upgrade my pc soon. And i agree doing dev work on windows is not great with many extra steps, and i don't game much anymore so that isn't an issue for me. Will check out pop OS!

[@NeuralNine]

Definitely give it a try! :)

[@alirezanet]

I love Linux and used it for 5 years but Windows + WSL2 is awesome ... I use all Linux tools I want directly in Windows and I strongly recommend it. (maybe because I hate to restart my machine if I want to open a game ... dual boot is not a good idea)

[@NeuralNine]

WSL is a MUST on Windows. But its not remotely comparable to running a Linux system full-time.

[@matteand]

I use Zorin OS since this spring (switched from Win 10) and feel I trouble shoot less in Linux than in Windows. Will definately stay with Linux.

[@abdelilah_hmidani]

i Linux used For several years I have not needed to install drivers except in a very special case that I customize. I create the system once for a long period. The programs are available and I customize them as I want. The construction programs are automatically available. As for Windows programs, I use Where. As for games, you can use technology Passthrough

[@NeuralNine]

It works surprisingly well for most programs / pieces of hardware.

[@BreetaiZentradi]

The CLI is a first class citizen in Linux. You want to know something in windows you can open powershell and type in some very complex command line to get what you want. Need to filter? Great, those are complex as well. Whereas on Linux there are simple commands, short and easy command options, and filtering is done with standard tools like grep, sed, cut. Otherwise in Windows you have to dig down 5 levels to get to the right GUI tool to get the info you want. Speaking of the CLI being a first class citizen. I use a drop down terminal "tilda" in which I run a tmux session. I am never more than one keypress from having a terminal open and in front of me.

[@NeuralNine]

I started using tmux yesterday!

[@Jagosix]

I prefer Linux to Windows and MACOSX because of its greater freedom and variety. I don't particularly appreciate using the command line (Terminal) interface. I'm delighted I have that option with Linux. Nothing wrong with CLI, however I'm so used to a GUI, that using a CLI feels a touch archaic. For instance, Who uses a Terminal on their cell phone ? See My Point.

[@NeuralNine]

Well, I recently installed Termux on my phone 😂

[@ArturdeSousaRocha]

A thank-you side note: Your neofetch output tells me I should be able to run Linux without issues on my Windows laptop. I haven't decided yet if I'm gonna tolerate Windows 11 next October or not. I'll need to explore the differences between Ubuntu and Pop!_OS.

[@NeuralNine]

A lot of people think about switching because of Windows 11. I would give it a try. You can still go back to Windows if you don't like it.

[@ArturdeSousaRocha]

@NeuralNine I know all the pros and cons and I use Ubuntu on my old MacBook Air. Works great, definitely better than Mac OS ever did.

[@crippsverse]

My biggest issue is I'm not a techie, even though many people at work think I am so, so I've always dipped into Linux but gone back to Windows. That was until I discovered that AI can create my terminal instructions and troubleshoot for me. Now I'm on Pop OS and everything is much faster.

[@NeuralNine]

Awesome. Unusual but great :)

[@RD-fb6ei]

Fedora is what I imagined MacOS to be. The first thing I thought when I used a Mac for the first time was that it was a surprisingly ugly UI for an Apple product. The translucent backgrounds especially struck me as tacky.

[@NeuralNine]

Did Fedora work for you without a lot of problems? I remember that I encountered some difficulties when I tried it.

[@RD-fb6ei]

@@NeuralNine I never encountered any problems but I've heard Nvidia drivers are a bit of a pain. Regardless I think it's worth spending time on - Linus Torvalds, Asahi Linux, Amazon Linux 2, and many other major figures and projects use Fedora. I came from Pop OS too and I think it was an upgrade.

[@NeuralNine]

I will have to take a closer look at it in the future, when I have more time.

[@YeYintAung-n7z]

Do u consider using new MacBook s?

[@NeuralNine]

I don't consider buying a Mac as of right now. Only if I experience significant issues with Linux at some point.

[@alexanderzikal7244]

I need Adobe for my passion (photography) and Excel every day for my job. A lot in the car, Hotels,… for me a MacBook is the best. I did all my job 2007 - 2011 in my private company. Nearly all is possible with linux. I love apt-get. On the mac Homebrew, chocolate with windows

[@NeuralNine]

I would probably also give Mac a try, if I wanted to use Adobe or MS office products.

[@tiomkinnyborg2289]

I liken moving to Linux to moving to a new house. Certain things are the same but rooms are different. You need to furnish the new place and decorate. It cannot and will never be the same as your old house. Sure there is work to do in the beginning but that is true for most things. The terminal is like a tool kit that you use to fix stuff, you don't use it everyday but you are glad it is there when a tap starts leaking. I could never go back to Windows. People use any excuse not to move on.

[@NeuralNine]

I like the analogy!

[@DawnDevelopers]

Hii! What do you think about i3wm for development? I think I'm in love with it.

[@NeuralNine]

Unfortunately, I have not really used a tiling window manager yet. It's on my to-do list.

[@DawnDevelopers]

@@NeuralNine I wish you the best of luck! I want to thank you for your Neovim config video! I benefited a lot from it!

[@NeuralNine]

I need to rework the config. Lua is the way to go nowadays but I am too complacent.

[@suyashdahale4355]

I was also using dual boot but recently, i have converted my pc into Ubuntu server and installed tailscale, and i have macbook air m1 i ssh in my pc and study.... Initial setup was tough ( steep learning curve ) but everything is smooth now -> everything for ml and deep learning works smoothly on my pc/server now and i am happy with my setup. Mac and ubuntu server win. There is no reason for me to go to windows. Edit : i want to give shout out to lambda stack to make setup easy for data science related stuff

[@NeuralNine]

Sounds like a nice setup!

[@benderbg]

For the people that are still thinking of switching to Linux but they don't have a spare drive try it in Virtual Box (virtualization software). Its going to be a fun learning experience without any extra cost or fear of losing data.

[@NeuralNine]

Yes, but expect limited performance then. It's a good way to start though.

[@Ironpants57]

I remember my first time with linux in the beginning of 2020. So many graphic driver issues after updates. I usually was greeted with a black screen lol. Usually needed to reinstall the graphics driver. However since 2022, it's been rock solid stable. Even on Arch, very stable. Granted, I use window managers which takes less cpu usage.. But I also use graphic apps like Krita, Blender, Godot, Gimp and such that can eat up usage. Again, very stable experience. Last time I logged into windows was probably a little more than a year ago.. I really don't look forward to updating my windows partition 😅

[@NeuralNine]

Yes, Linux distros seem much more stable nowadays.

[@glenby2u]

mostly agree and for similar reasons. midi based devices have some incompatibilities and specific devices cause a bit of grief. gaming - some companies are blocking linux. RDP for work is a no go due to work implementation but almost anything else... linux does me well. (p.s. I like shotcut too. its simplerbasic). I do dislike upgrades/patches because you have to stuff around a bit. extensions might take a week or so to catch up. small prices to pay. pretty happy. if I "had" to use windows, I'd get a cheap laptop to get me through. I'd never use a mac. personal preference.

[@NeuralNine]

Agree. Unless one needs to rely on specific software that does not run properly on Linux, the price one pays is tiny compared to what you get.

[@Shinika01]

If you had to switch to a brand new computer (assume you lost your hard drive!) Is it hard to come back to linux now? Do you know the stuff u did once (to configure linux) or do u have to 'find it back' ?

[@NeuralNine]

It would probably take me 1-2 weeks of using it daily to get it back to where it is right now. After this, I probably won't have to troubleshoot problems for quite some time.

[@Shinika01]

@NeuralNine many thanks for the quick reply and all the good content 👍. Noted

[@Sub0x-x40]

Alot of the configuration can be backed up onto github. I have a dotfile repo. If i get a new pc, i can clone the repo just install stow and run it and it will sym link my dotfiles to home dir. This "should" maintain alot of things I have configured like my bashrc, vim config, i3 config etc. Havent needed to do it yet tho lol. So most of your configuration you can take to another computer

[@Shinika01]

@@Sub0x-x40 this is very interesting ! Can you please share (somehow) where I can achieve that? I can reconfigure my windows in a day, but I still think I would have hard to do so if I configure Linux today and then in 5 years I have to rebuild my software config...

[@jmacdono]

I would love to run Pop!_OS, but it's based on such an old Ubuntu version. Is all the software for it also out of date?

[@NeuralNine]

Sometimes yes. But you can always install packages manually as well.

[@theoriginalneckbeard]

Neofetch is depcrecated btw. And Pop!OS is the Linux alternative to Windows like every other Ubuntu based Linux distro, so if you want a stable Windows-like experience with more control over your system and without your typical BSOD and random updates, use Pop!OS. /e: Not talking down on Pop!OS or Ubuntu based systems here, just pointing out.

[@NeuralNine]

I also think that Ubuntu-based distros are an "easy start". Maybe one day I can confidently say that I use Arch btw.

[@hockypockies]

neofetch is a bash script no? doesnt really matter if it's depricated

[@geoman1420]

Linux Mint user... I don't want to deal with the mess that is Windows (besides my work - i have no choice there...) All my computers run Linux/MacOS now!

[@oldbeardedtech993]

I use a W10 vm for one ridiculous work application and even that short use can be horribly frustrating. Luckily every other function of my job can be done on linux and most times easier than if on windows. My wife is stuck on a locked down windows machine at work with tech support in India and she literally spends the majority of her day on the phone with them.

[@NeuralNine]

Many people use Windows because they HAVE to. I would like to know how many people genuinely enjoy it and would choose it if compatibility was not an issue.

[@thenoblerot]

I switched to Linux after Windows XP 😂❤🐧 in my experience, it's always "just worked". I dabbled with MacOS briefly and was horrified 😮

[@NeuralNine]

Why horrified? Because of the lack of control or was it just a bad experience overall?

[@soapyfrog]

I went Mac as daily driver in 1998 but had to use Windows for work in most of the intervening time and almost all my dev work has been targeting Linux. Mac works well because you can work on/for Windows on it, as well as Linux of all vintages. It’s ironically the most open and flexible tool in the box. I too love the command line and can’t really love desktop Linux but windows has been a horror since Vista in my view. Slow and power hungry. Too many steps to get down to WSL2. If I ever found Apple uncomfortable I’d be looking at an LTS Linux distro. On Arm.

[@NeuralNine]

I can imagine Mac being a good compromise. But open? That's not a word I would have ever associated with it at all 😅

[@zacharykosove9048]

Please talk more about the actuall features and reasons you use linux

[@mikemayuare]

The deal with davinci resolve and the codecs is because codecs are proprietary and on windows and Mac resolve uses system codecs, and windows and Mac have license of those codecs. On Linux the codecs are unlicensed and the studio version includes them.

[@NeuralNine]

Makes sense. Other people said the same.

[@sergiuoanes4635]

Once you go Linux, you never look back. I've been through the same experience 9 years ago.

[@NeuralNine]

And it's getting better, more compatible and more stable over time.

[@lnstagrarm]

Wow i am fan of linux. I did not know you were using Linux all the time in ur videos. We have an Ant machine in our company and it has linux os. And its isolated from organisation network as it lacs in security. Is that correct ? We use that machine only to train our models. Its really powerful machine. Its customised and have powerful Gpu. I think it costs more than 24000 usd.

[@Sub0x-x40]

Linux doesn't lack in security at all, this is why defense systems are all run on linux. Your company keeps it isolated for additional security perhaps

[@Satyamkumar19113]

which is best Linux distros among all available distros

[@NeuralNine]

There is no best. But as a beginner I would recommend starting with an Ubuntu-based distribution.

[@IlyesCodes]

I respect your opinion but i disagree, Pop os and other debian based distros are basically plug and play very easy to set up, however, arch linux for example takes way longer time to set up and configure everything from ground up and even after all is done and configured you will run into issues and bugs and troubleshooting is not easy as there are not that much documentation for certain edge cases especially when using a tiling window manager and it crashes when using electron based apps. It also differs in terms of usage, sm1 who uses linux in their home lab needs to maintain and configure way more than a regular user of linux. This is a pro not a con as linux gives you the freedom to customize however you like your system and even bypassing kernel mode and handle tough tasks. I respect that you are still using linux bro❤.

[@NeuralNine]

Sounds like you don't really disagree. It seems like you think it is even easier to switch than I said.

[@IlyesCodes]

@NeuralNine it really depends on the choice of the distro and the usecases.

[@sam_alderson]

Pop OS distribution is better than regular Ubuntu?

[@moussaadem7933]

It's a modified version of Ubuntu made by System76. If you like the modifications they make then use it

[@NeuralNine]

It's basically Ubuntu with some changes and better compatibility out of the box.

[@adairjanney7109]

I do use linuxx but only because of privacy, id love to go back to windows, its a far superior desktop os for media and everything else, linux imo is a headless os a server os I never use ms for server only debian or freebsd

[@cosmicusstardust3300]

there's a funny thing with Linux users, the ones that move from Windows to Linux tend to eventually move to MacOS if they still don't like it lol

[@NeuralNine]

Right now I would not make the switch. Also, does Mac support things similar to i3wm?

[@peteblazar5515]

My take on reason why free non-Studio version Davinci Resolve on Linux doesn't support proprietary(licenced) codecs (HEVC, H.264, AAC,...) , but support on Windows is because somebody payed for them (Microsoft). They are payed in Studio version on Linux (by BlackmagicDesign). Probably.

[@NeuralNine]

Makes sense. Other people said that too.

[@Louis-L186]

People are fleeing adobe though today due to their sales policies

[@NeuralNine]

Good news for Linux I guess.

[@broph3n]

11:16 the codecs require licensing, other OS license them at the OS level, but Linux is OSS so it is not, Davinci has to license them themselves

[@NeuralNine]

Makes sense. Probably not their fault then.

[@AGASTRONICS]

I have been using Kali Linux kernel for decade and what I will always say is if you are a developer use Linux full-time.

[@NeuralNine]

Agree!

[@Louis-L186]

Wait you're using Kali as a daily driver ?

[@AGASTRONICS]

@Louis-L186 Yeah, it's very nice, * Building Software * Using Docker * Software Manipulation Tools * Flexibility (U can do whatever you want) * Works perfectly with almost every Dev tools * Like I don't know what to say but Linux is life 🧬

[@Louis-L186]

@@AGASTRONICS Okay, you're probably the first person I see using Kali Linux for a daily driver and not for a pentesting device 😂

[@AGASTRONICS]

@@Louis-L186 Yeah, I do penetration testing on Software and IoT devices

[@Raminber]

Wow, the list of bugs is a lot. Now I am affraid to do the switch.

[@NeuralNine]

The first weeks can be tough. But you learn a lot :)

[@biner01]

Been using linux for maybe 8 years now. No way I'd ever go back to Windows. Linux is way faster and way easier to program on. And since I kept a slightly older stable build, it never even crashes.

[@NeuralNine]

That's why I stick with POP for now. I am afraid of using Fedora or Arch because the system could easily break. At least that's what I think.

[@samoylov1973]

OK, say you want some modern interface on your computer. Let it be borderless and buttonless (without ancient trio: "minimize, maximize, close" app stuff). Sort of smartphone type or tiling. Also let it be dark themed and with violet accent colors (or any other) for displayed elements. Could you do this in MasOS or Windows? No. Why? Because you've been sold a false idea that best UI designers developed their interfaces. And these interfaces if you dig into computer history are actually some ~30 years old. In GNU/Linux I can do any of above and even more. And not only in dwm, qtile or hyprland, but in KDE also. As for initial setup... well, yeah, have to install several packages, because I want it to work the way I like.

[@NeuralNine]

Yes, for people like us it's a dream. But I can also understand the designer or business guy who wants everything to work out of the box. They prefer not having control and customization options.

[@samoylov1973]

@@NeuralNine It works out of the box in Manjaro, Kubuntu or Raspbian. It's just we want something more 🐧

[@LunEToon223]

Linux is the way to go.

[@DigitalLiquid]

After breaking Arch many times I ended up sticking with endeavourOS. It works with my Nvidia GPU.

[@NeuralNine]

Heard it is a less bloated alternative to Manjaro.

[@DigitalLiquid]

@@NeuralNine Yes that is true. Also it doesn't collect any data unlike Manjaro.

[@Playingchess49]

I like Linux because of neofetch

[@hexisXz]

I use openBSD

[@ordinarygg]

You will at some point, just to try some new stuff) not because you will stay on it, but just to try new stuff

[@TheInfirit]

The reason some codecs are missing on linux is because Microsoft provides them with windows.

[@NeuralNine]

They are still including it in the paid version on Linux. By not including it in the free version, they alienate creators like myself which would have maybe bought the Pro version one day.

[@ScottBaker_]

​@@NeuralNineMicrosoft pays the licensing fee on Windows. Resolve appears to pay for the licences as part of the paid offering. Paying for those licenses for a free product does not make any sense.

[@celdaemon]

Not sure why you would change back to windows yeah

[@FabianBarajas]

❤ hell yeah.

[@tonywood3660]

I switched to Linux about 8 years ago, I run a propriety CAD programme in Virtual box and that is the only time I need to use windows. Otherwise I find Linux is a good operating system, unobtrusive updates no spyware and bloatware etc. As you say it takes a couple of weeks to get use to using. If not an expert stick to say Linux Mint, and you will wonder why the hell you used windows.

[@NeuralNine]

Yes, the only difficult part of switching are the first couple of weeks. It's totally worth it.

[@umop3plsdn]

ive been a linux user since '95 the only thing that keeps me booting windows is for some reason i can never get WoW to run the same on linux no matter what I try. I can get it running alright but on windows its just so much better which is sad. I just wish that one thing I could get past but i cant

[@NeuralNine]

For games Windows is definitely (still) the best operating system. Unfortunately.

[@essetee]

wow is the only game I play, i run it on debian via bottles and it runs smooth. Another game I play is Supaplex as nostalgie to my DOS years. Easy to install via steam.

[@keyibreand3840]

I use both

[@squoblat]

Potentially hot take here, but as a long time Linux and windows user, I've spent the last 18 months using Chromebooks and a Chromebox 5, with a locally hosted cloud on Proxmox. Setting everything up in the backend with Proxmox, which is Linux anyway has just made everything else a very easy to use UI layer. With that I get phone integration, everything based on user account regardless of which of my machines I boot up and a VM across the network if I do decide I need a Windows machine.

[@NeuralNine]

Sounds like a nice ecosystem you have built!

[@squoblat]

@@NeuralNine It works for me, not saying it's for everyone. It just occurred to me that ChromeOS was designed to be used as a cloud OS, so why not just do that bit myself. If I need something else, I can fire up a VM and do it from any machine. Proxmox is great for PCIe passthrough as well, even into Docker containers so it's incredibly flexible. Also means I don't have to chew up local resources on any of the chromebooks by running Linux in a VM on them, unless it's something I'm using very regularly. What seems really strange to me is that Google have essentially marketed ChromeOS at students and web surfers, then designed an OS that only really shines when you're a massive homelab nerd with your own locally hosted cloud. Then they paywall out the enterprise stuff from the homelab nerds and make it business only. It makes very little sense whichever way you cut it.

[@seshusai8208]

Bro make a series about pyrogram library

[@elu1]

i am convinced but still afraid of how to establish what you have...

[@NeuralNine]

If you can, try using Linux on a second machine or hard drive without uninstalling Windows. That way you can always fall back to it if necessary.

[@Sub0x-x40]

I just use both

[@NeuralNine]

Oftentimes that's a necessary compromise.

[@noertri618]

No bash in windows

[@moussaadem7933]

I don't like windows but it's extremely easy to get bash there, you already get bash for free when you install git, which you are expected to have anyways. It just sticks out like a sore thumb within a non-posix system

[@MrNiuxe]

trust me, Debian or OpenSuse

[@NeuralNine]

Which version of OpenSUSE do you prefer and why?

[@justcode_99]

​@@NeuralNineit's thimbleweed for me because i need latest packages .. and it's rock solid

[@MrNiuxe]

​@@NeuralNine Opensuse LEAP. Why is this? Because YAST is an example. Give it a try! I've been using Opensuse for 8 years. What a pleasure. At the moment, I'm using Debian. Ubuntu and Ubuntu-like are not for me.

[@Damglador]

Based

[@davehug]

I couldnuse some assistance i created s very capable brain AI that is built inside openAI's frainwork. I could use some human minds to asist with this necause its an evolutionary ai and is sunthetic sentient.

[@TheDbaru]

In summary, Linux >>> Mac > Windows. Windows is hot garbage.

[@NeuralNine]

I will have to give Mac a try one day.

[@sujayxaradhya]

​@@NeuralNine Then I think you would want to switch to Mac because it is very close to linux made on UNIX as compared to the garbage windows.

[@firestormjupiter]

From what I can tell macOS sacrifices a ton of flexibility and customisability and has lots of unremovable bloatware. The fact that before sequoia there were people literally willingly paying to have window snapping speaks volumes.

[@sujayxaradhya]

@@firestormjupiter yeah you are absolutely right that's why I'm still not upgrading my macos to sequoia. I'm still at Ventura

[@mjneil]

Windows is gross, ads in the menu 😂

[@fill-me-in]

Second 🥈

[@suhas2250]

First

[@NeuroScientician]

Linux on desktop is such a waste of time.

[@lowkeygaming4716]

Lols. We have different use cases. For some of us, windows is trash

[@NeuralNine]

I don't have a single instance where Linux wasted my time after an the initial setup period of around 2-3 weeks, where I had to get used to it. Windows on the other hand wastes my time with random forced updates on a regular basis.

[@NeuroScientician]

@@NeuralNine Probably much faster to Google how to turn off updates on Windows that waste 3 weeks of your like just to end up with a Windows like system from Wish.

[@NeuroScientician]

@@lowkeygaming4716 another vegan

[@lowkeygaming4716]

@@NeuroScientician stupid comparison. I'm just stating facts. You can't force everyone to like your favorite OS because personally that OS sucks in my usecase.