why I can't stomach Eat Predators UPDATE: Alexa Nikolas T-Shirt Backlash, Just Trish Podcast & more

[@annecycornchip]

hi im just finally finishing this up! you mention in this that i'm a founder and i just wanna point out i wasn't a founder and don't want to take credit away from the people who were truly there in the beginning building it! i came in maybe a month or two after the first diplo protest after she invited me to the original discord when it was first created. i was offering to help volunteer early on before that but i had no contribution in establishing what at predators was supposed to be. i appreciate you giving a platform to everyone who's been harmed by alexa and this once again was really well done 💜

[@Bls-of1ld]

Im glad ppl are seeing through that woman

[@unerevuese]

Tbh...something about Alexa never sat right with me. Although I believe she went through traumatic experiences as a child actor, she often finds a way to center herself in a lot of situations when she should be passing on the mic. Her flipping the script about Drake Bell has been so odd as well. I can be upset over the child Drake Bell being abused, but adult Drake Bell is trying to sweep his own mistakes under the rug. His victims are being silenced and called liars which is harmful.

[@niaram]

i am the first person to say “it’s not a competition” when it comes to trauma. i mean as someone who’s been bullied, it genuinely fucks you up. however, the way she constantly acts like it’s the same level as sexual assault and abuse is just very wrong to me. her trauma is valid, but being bullied by other teen girls isn’t the same as being sexually assaulted by a grown man. i mean, i feel if anything, the trauma that can relate most to that would be with her abusive ex. of course i understand her pain, 100%. and it’s wrong that those who were in charge didn’t do enough to stop it, and that is wrong and a valid reason to add onto why nickelodeon sucks. but like, it’s like breaking your leg and complaining to somebody in a full body cast. like yes, that’s horrible that you broke your leg, but let’s read the room.

[@lazybutterfly]

Found this video after the recent Alexa drama with (victim) Adam McIntyre and it’s v interesting!! Thanks for creating this! Super relevant even months later

[@spritepepsi5432]

I watched these out of order but my take on DB is that the internet will froth at the mouth to give a white man of any level of fame online a redemption arc: Shane Dawson, James Charles, Jeffree Star, Drake Bell; they’ve all faced similar things but they’re never actually held accountable for what they’ve done.

[@lucasouza3628]

james charles is bullied everyday on the internet lol

[@zoec6944]

@@lucasouza3628 @spritepepsi5432 Yeah I'd agree with you both. He is a more feminine guy though, so I think we can still definitely say this is rooted in misogyny (and racism, even though that doesn't really apply to James Charles). Like I still see people just brushing past the abuse allegations against Shia Labouef because he was abused as a child, but then the same people will go nuts over a famous woman being mean one time lol (not actually funny, but it's so ridiculous).

[@lucasouza3628]

@@zoec6944 thats true. ive seen women being hated for years beause of one witty comment being interpreted as mean lol but a bunch of male abusers always get this ''redemption arc'' treatment. fuck that.

[@BrinaRyce]

I wonder if it's possible that Alexa is using other people's trauma continuously recenter herself, because she simply hasn't done the actual trauma work involved in healing with an actual good therapist... I am speculating that she may be constantly seeking re-validation from her audience for her trauma because she can't find that validation within herself. This is a part of why it can be common for abuse survivors to "trauma dump" prior to extensive therapy, because as most us are never believed or validated by the people in our lives who actually matter, so we end up seeking that validation everywhere else, from everyone else. This isn't an excuse btw. Alexa is responsible for Alexa. It's just sad to witness someone so willfully ignore all the resources and privileges made available to them to truly continue on the journey to heal. . . in favor of capitalizing on other peoples trauma for clicks and views.

[@kissarococo2459]

Yes! I know a woman who was raped as a child and traumadumps on complete strangers she meets but refuses therapy on religious grounds. She does not get how a woman relaxing in a spa might not want an earful of her disturbingly detailed account but is too polite and shocked to ask her to stop.

[@BrinaRyce]

​​​@@kissarococo2459Yep. That's sadly not all that uncommon and always so hard to witness. And unfortunately, some people also tend to try using it as an excuse to assume that a surivivor is "making it all up" bc they can't fathom why anyone would be relaying such horrific events so offhandedly to people they barely know or someone they just met. Most ppl simply don't have experience in recongizing what surviving trauma actually looks like. Healing doesn't just happen; it takes a lot of active and continuous work that not everyone may have easy or affordable access too. My grandmother was an alcoholic, and for her alcohol was the trigger that would have her relaying all the worst of her childhood trauma to me. It broke my heart to see her in her late 70s, still needing to repeat the same stories I had already heard her tell me before a hundred times over--but yet be so unwilling to hear my own story without re-centering herself, because she couldn't face the intergenerational trauma that was so woven into our whole family tree. But she was also the reason I became more determined to seek professional help, because I knew I didn't want to live to be her age, and still needing to relive the worst parts of my life just so I could hear someone tell me they believed me. I really hope Alexa figures this out for herself at some point but she's in the absolute worst place to do so. Everyone trying to offer her any sort of nuanced ounce of criticism is either a bot, another villainous enemy. She appears to be too wrapped in her own narrative that she's both unwilling and incapable of recognizing that is paving the path to her own destruction. She's her own worst manipulator at this point.

[@MJBowie]

Long story but I was friends (for a short time) with one of DB’s ex-girlfriends. It was 2007 and she told me so much about how he was to her when they dated. I already didn’t like him anymore because of her stories. After dating her, he dated another (very young) woman who proceeded to witness and be victim to DB’s behavior and would sometimes reach out to my old friend since she could relate and understand. Fast forward to now. My old friend is no longer alive to speak out. The woman DB dated after her has spoken out and Drake went on a mission to try to discredit what she said. When he pleaded guilty, I felt relief that others now saw Drake for who he is and some of what he has done. Some. Now that he has spoken out about his awful abuse, which should be called out, it’s suddenly like everyone forgot he is guilty. Everyone forgot he isn’t a good guy. Now he’s back to releasing music and doing interviews that paint him as only a victim. I’m angry, to be honest. I was previously trying to get more people to watch Alexa’s videos but now she does THIS? Nah.

[@BigChungus-t2v]

Literally!! I saw someone comment under his announcement for his new song “I Kind of Relate” (which sucks btw, it’s not a good song) that ‘America owes Drake Bell an apology’ ummm an apology for what?? He was s3xt1ng minors, giving them drugs, and doing whippets in the car with his son. WHO owes him an apology besides Brian Peck and his mother? Who?!?!

[@HudaAbdulahi]

I don't want to be insensitive but was the ex girlfriend the same girl that went public I hope one day karma will come to drake bell his past childhood doesn't excuse his future behavior someone can be a victim and a abusive person one doesn't cancel the other and people should stop being obsessed with the perfect victim .

[@MJBowie]

@@HudaAbdulahi the ex who spoke out online was the young woman he dated right after the woman I was friends with.

[@HudaAbdulahi]

@@MJBowie oh okay so the friend never came public

[@HudaAbdulahi]

@@MJBowie oh I cant imagine what his other ex she's been through especially now with the backlash

[@bydivadream]

Her exact reaction to Angelique's video... not only am I speechless, but it was like waking up via electric shock after being under a spell. Like you said SO perfectly - startling and immediate. I hate this reality. EPD really is Alexa's vehicle to fawn over herself and be fawned over, likely due to her emotional maturity level partially stunted as the 12 year old getting bullied for things she couldn't help about herself as a tween (more childlike and very quick to cry, having stuffed animals)

[@gracemvs]

I found you through Adam McIntyre and I’m in love with your content! I also just want to point out a very small error - when Drakes victim was speaking in court, she was giving a victim impact statement, not testifying under oath or under the penalty of perjury. (I’m an attorney and have worked in prosecutors’ offices so I’m familiar with the process) It isn’t a huge error but I think it’s important to make the distinction before one of the DB defenders tries to weaponize that. Again, I absolutely love your videos!!!

[@michellecgb]

I had no idea Alexa watched that girl testify and made a video about it only to turn around and refuse to talk about Drake’s predatory behavior after Quiet on Set. Like, wow, I thought that was shitty, but this makes it even worse.

[@eshanatiti1733]

thank god. u have no idea how glad i am that this popped up on my suggestions. i literally thought I was a terrible person because I just didn't understand why she was detailing stories of bullying she had when she was a child and framing other children (probably going through the same thing) as evil and sorta aligned them w dan schneider. the whole time watching trishas podcast I was waiting for her to stop recounting these stories and say like 'whatever we were all children its in the past but dan schnieder and nickelodean' but she never did . also I haven't watched ur video yet I was just so excited to voice this bc I was reading all the comments and no one said anything bad so if u disagree with this SORRY

[@ophie-dokie]

YES I completely agree!!!! and even the clip she was showing as evidence she got hit I had to keep going back and watching. Like I saw it happen but she was talking about it like it was super intentional and obvious and it seemed more like the kind of like "lol whoops" shoving/bullying that happens in school when people get pushed around which is like... bullying is wrong but not exactly the same thing as institutional abuse. But she really does seem about as upset that Victoria Justice didnt stay her bestie forever after getting the job as she does about anything else that happened with Nick and Dan and it confuses me deeply.

[@Delena00]

Most likely because the bullying she alleges happened is a fabrication, mixed with half-truths. I hear way more about Alexa not being a nice person than any of those people. I think there’s more merit to having a track record than all the “he said, she said” and gaslighting she’s been doing.

[@suiennui1095]

I felt the same way! Her gripes with people because of how they acted as CHILDREN was concerning to me. As much as I, as someone who was bullied as a child, can empathise with that pain, much of my frustration about that time is directed at the way that bullying was dealt with by adults, but I struggle to place blame, now as an adult, on those children. Not to be an arm chair psych, but it feels to me that there is a lot of healing she still needs to do and I imagine having an echo chamber audience prevents that.

[@monicagrindstaff5489]

I’m glad there’s videos about this. Lately, she’s calling out people she just doesn’t like (Travis Kelce for example) and claiming “predatory behavior” when they aren’t predators. It’s like she has her agenda and opinion and if you don’t agree or follow it, you’re a predator. Speaking as a survivor, that’s a huge problem. I definitely agree that she centers herself like Christy C does.

[@maximusprime3459]

Finally people are starting to see thru her ruse.

[@pembrokelove]

How is someone going to say someone is “stupid enough to believe a little girl” when we are talking, over-archingly, about a whole series of things where we ALL should have listened to and believed all of those little girls who were harmed by Nickelodeon, by Dan Schneider, by Drake Bell. In fact, we could just as easily defend Brain Peck and say “You are stupid enough to believe some little boy” when talking about Drake Bell all those hears ago. It’s just a disgusting supposition even to pose. OF COURSE you listen to the little girl (and the little boy) who tell you they are being hurt. That’s not being stupid; that’s protecting children.

[@nullusernamex]

Making my way through your catalogue - I've shared the exact same thoughts on Alexa. Frankly, she immediately made me uncomfortable as she's very reactive. Great dialogue!

[@hoodys]

48:37 the way she has totally flipped on the doc now after not being invited back on is wild.

[@zebra4538]

I had to unsubscribe from her channel because she kept bringing up the fact of her being bullied on Zoey 101 and her stalker. I get that it's HER CHANNEL but good lawd she should have named it something else and had her channel dedicated about her life. Stop using other people's trauma for clickbait alexa 🗣🗣🗣🗣

[@CharmednDangerousPodcast]

wait until you find out how alexa treated us survivors on Eat Predators discord. she isn’t how she portrays herself to be. many survivors did a mass leave from her platform after the way she treated us. we payed her monthly for her packages to be on discord and apart of EP. we had personal interactions with her through discord. her leadership skills are different than how she is on her EP livestreams.

[@maximusprime3459]

Whoa. Shes like that with her own crowd? Yeesh.

[@bydivadream]

how will people be finding out?

[@lucasouza3628]

can you be more specific

[@JessicaPradoHanson]

Oh yea……. after how she treated me I had people messaging me worried I might kill myself because of how rude she was and more than one said they think she is a mean girl to certain types she doesn’t like and they said me being native and pretty made her hate me and I just wanted a community to heal!!! So now I am working on creating my own platform because I see I have better leadership skills and I have clearly done more healing than her because I have MS and was bedridden and taught myself to walk again after 2 years. I don’t want to be like her so I am taking a break from posting and working on healing to a certain degree before I come back. I learned that when it comes to healing trauma people can only help others heal the level of trauma they survived and to the level they healed. So I am working on healing to a level that I feel is needed to achieve my dreams of uplifting everyone impacted in healthier ways. As a mixed race native that survived child grooming and different types of trafficking she just hurt me and I work to grow stronger and wiser from every wound which makes me more resilient. I hope she learns to do the same so she can have a healthier impact on herself and everyone else she is impacting consciously and unconsciously. To me this should only be about the health of us all so we can evolve together. That is not what she is doing and I don’t want to make others feel the way I felt so I will work to be better for us all. More of us need to, to actually turn this around we all need to work together. They win when we are divided.

[@mcplestreet]

im so happy I finally found a comprehensive video about all this cause holy cow ive been so lost.definitely gonna be keeping up with your coverage on this I think that if you don't already (I don't want to assume either way) scripting these out, or scripting them out more because there were just a lot of really long pauses or talking really slow that prob made the video longer. I def do the same thing every time I record myself while trying to get my thoughts together so genuinely not trying to be shady or anything at all 🥺

[@jackieeg]

omg yeah the discord video doxxing finally confirmed my feelings that alexa is bringing anything and everything online and it is honestly just retraumatizing and she needs to learn how to heal without blasting everything onto the internet.

[@continuallycountingchicken7338]

You are spot on! I almost choked when you said EP is an AN Fan Club. One gazillion percent! Her commandeering of others’ stories is nauseating and gross. Thank you for the deep dives. I watched all of them and subscribed. Keep up the amazing work!

[@suiennui1095]

Thank you for making these videos! I've watched some Alexa Videos and I had a 'funny feeling' about her content, which was furthered when I looked at the Eat Predator's website and continues to be furthered with what to me felt like the devolution of her content and activism. I agree when you say 'it feels like high school BS'. I don't think the nature of the 'discourse' she creates is particularly helpful for survivors- in fact, as you've outlined, its actively harmful in many ways - even malicious. I'm particularly shocked by how she has turned on DB's victim. Thank you for starting discourse on this and I deeply appreciate your nuanced approach all around.

[@Layla-qy4yv]

I was waiting for SOMEONE to make a video about this

[@queennsydney]

Me not watching your video on Trish and skipping through areas where you discuss her is me demonstrating for anyone this might apply to *cough* on how to simply not watch things you know will trigger you 🥰

[@JNDReacts]

1:05:31 “So we agree on that.” Oop 🫢 Trish was definitely picking up on Alexa’s weird deflections about Drake Bell being a perpetrator.

[@pembrokelove]

Uggh and I can’t even with the way DB looks at the camera while his victim - not *alleged* victim, he admitted to this shit and it is NOT “alleged” it is *FACT* - is talking. It’s so disgusting and, as a person who worked with Level 4s / SVPs for moat of my career, I’ve seen those looks over and over when a victim is speaking on their experiences. It’s disgusting.

[@caseymckenna7111]

I’ve been going through all of these videos and I am just so glad to have found this channel. I’ve felt this way throughout Alexa’s entire rise on this platform and haven’t heard anyone else that sees what I see here. There’s so much that’s performative and seems only to center herself in any of these conversations. She wants victims to speak just loud enough for her to talk over them. It’s vampire shit.

[@yanksrgreat]

alexa is all about speaking out but loves to silence anyone who has a criticism of her

[@rojayreid908]

Who she ever silence?

[@yanksrgreat]

@@rojayreid908 everybody that has a valid critiscism of her. she just calls them haters or bot and ignores them. instead of acutally listening and trying to see where the concern is coming from like with the trish podcast or befriending drake

[@rojayreid908]

@@yanksrgreat Didn't she attacks Drake plus I don't know much about Trish to see why people are mad about that interview. Why?

[@yanksrgreat]

@@rojayreid908 she has made jokes about sleeping with underage people, lied about being groomed herself, defended shane dawson for doing blackface

[@yanksrgreat]

@@rojayreid908 trisha abused her husband and talked about having sex with underage kids

[@thehillisalive]

Ok, so I'm all about using (the royal you) your experiences to empathize/sympathize with people's stories and voices, but Alexa genuinely feels to me like she's finding any and every way to insert herself into other people's unrelated (or tangentially related at BEST) trauma, a sort of "yeah listen to this, but don't forget about ME and MY experiences because I'M the main character! "

[@ThePurpleRants]

She disliked drake bell until he got a second wind by announcing he's a victim. Then she conveniently forgot that drake bell is a monster that continues the cycle. Edit: she says she can't be compared to Christy C Romono because she didn't give drake a platform because he wasn't on her show. They don't have to be on your show to give them a platform. You give them a platform every time you talk about them. It's just convenient that she won't talk about him now because she was "bullied" about the video. She knows she quietly took down the video and all she had to do was make a tweet about why the video was down. If she planned on making a correction video, all she had to do was say so. But no, she was bullied so now she can't put the video up. She's a professional victim

[@kissarococo2459]

I cannot get over how unpleasant Alexa comes off sometimes, as if she is overacting her outrage in a comical way. I can't even explain it. I sympathise how she was treated and watch her videos but there is something off sometimes.

[@ThePurpleRants]

@@kissarococo2459 I have a hard time imagining her as a victim. From what I can gather, she talked to someone who worked for the show at 16 nothing happened till 18 and somewhere in 18 or 19 she got married for 10 or 11 years till age 29. She got divorced and suddenly sued the Mikey guy but she dropped all charges. She got remarried and has a kid and she's what, 32 now? I feel like as strongly as she says shes the victim and how angry she gets, that she wouldn't have dropped the charges if she felt she could win She has this mentality of believe survivors no matter what, if you catch them in a lie, it doesn't matter because they say they are survivors according to them. People have had their life ruined because someone who wasn't a survivor claims they are. Believe but verify isn't a thing with her and she's telling her crowd that you don't need any proof. They don't need a conviction. You can just go ruining lives just because of the claim.

[@yanksrgreat]

@@ThePurpleRants right if theres just an accusation attack them when it is innocent until proven guilty

[@withoutaname-u3m]

Thank you so much for posting these videos. Legit it’s crazy making to observe all of these things and god forbid you call it out, lest you face the wrath of her following. Two people on KZbin I know of that she associates with have similar attitudes and use their followings to attack others. I’m not even wanting to post their names lol. But one is a young guy who makes TMZ grade gossip content marketed as facts, conspiracies/misinformation, etc and started gaining traction during the free Britney movement. The other is one who asserts wild claims and conspiracy theories as irrefutable facts and accuses anyone questioning her of being a part of something nefarious. It’s soooo toxic and not helpful at all.

[@avaph0bic]

58:24 as someone who knows a little and is maybe like half-educated about Trisha… she was not interested in validating Alexa in any way during this podcast. Trisha is usually INCREDIBLY friendly and validating, she sounds like she is ABSOLUTELY brushing Alexa off during every conversation in this podcast. like, trisha talks SO much. she asks SO many questions. she was absolutely not engaged w alexa whatsoever lmao. i do not think she believed alexa about the bots thing either, trisha is an internet veteran.

[@pixiewolf333]

$45 a shirt is more expensive than hot topic. The store that is known for overpriced t-shirts.

[@briannawilliams97]

After I saw the Trasha Paytas vid. I was so livid. You are so much nicer of a person than me to look at this with a lot of nuance I respect you for that. I also noticed the same thing at the end of Drake Bells new music video that raised an eyebrow to me. Like this is the first thing he wants us to know that he's "innocent." I'm just curious. Where did you get the clips of the deleted Drake vid?

[@ophie-dokie]

thank you!!! I found it from ItEndsNow on twitter! They have the whole deleted stream up on google drive, I downloaded it from there, here's the link: twitter.com/ItEndsNow_Blog/status/1772292019517297023?t=_zTmxFXB5m56BcB5mOxQjw

[@dimpled_skeptic93]

I had off vibes about her for a bit, couldn't quite articulate it. But you've done a great job in this video! Tbh it's hard to even take her seriously sometimes. Between the mispronounced words, poor sentences and bad makeup, i just can't help but see her a certain way. Almost like she has arrested development, which could very well be possible.

[@radishfest]

YOOO someone else noticed the Mommy Dearest vibe (Not insulting her appearance; style is information)

[@bleoeop4081]

i’m glad that you included the video that she deleted about drake because it really does highlight how much of a hypocrite she is. i don’t know if she thought that no one would notice that she took the video down or what her goal with that was but it’s very weird. why change your mind now that you know something happened to him? i don’t see how it could change anything from that case. he pled guilty. also i never saw the video where she was comparing her situation to angelique’s but i’ve always noticed how much she likes to talk about herself in regards to other people’s stories.

[@AlienAwayFromHome]

Alexa claiming she’s a SURVIVOR because Dan Schneider and Britney Spears YELLED at her ONE single time and then making her entire personality as a Nickelodeon survivor 🥴 I’m sorry but this is ridiculous

[@koolaidman_]

1:20:25 this one really hit me hard, because while again, bullying is difficult, its hard to deal with, its upsetting, sure. Not dismissing those feelings, but to hear someone say "i was a victim of child abuse" and to go "it sounds like we had similar situations in terms of bullying" is so so centering herself that im almost flabbergasted. Because Angelique was not "bullied", that is, without dismissing its own effects, not as bad a word as what she went through

[@TheEighthAct]

We need to get you a better mic so you can keep doing these! Where’s the gofundme link???

[@bellamclaury9021]

I appreciate your bravery speaking out on this!! Great video!

[@auctionguy5]

Alexa Nikolas' "activism" is intertwined with her livelihood. MAJOR RED FLAG!!!

[@draxxlie8311]

Red flag yes, as in it has the possibility to be strictly self serving. But I don’t think this is always the case. Lots of artists/KZbinrs make a livelihood out of activism and I don’t think this is inherently bad as long as the activism is helpful. Someones gotta do it. And if we paint it all as bad then there would be FAR less people speaking out which to me is a net negative.

[@auctionguy5]

@@draxxlie8311 I do agree with your comment. HOWEVER, I get the vibe from Alexa that she's someone who WANTS to be PERPETUALLY offended, someone who always has a problem with something or somebody, and is lowkey attention-seeking. Getting into these social media "beefs" with other celebrities helps her sustain her popularity on social media and helps her earn a paycheck. Overall, I question her motivation at times.

[@yanksrgreat]

@@auctionguy5 its like she looks for something that isn't there or intentionally takes something the wrong way and blows everything out of proportion to get more clicks

[@GGlaBB]

Wow I just finished both your videos on Alexa. They were great videos because I couldnt voice my problem with her but you summarized it so well. Thank you for your videos on this subject. Just to let you know, im here because Adam spoke out about her just recently and when looking at the comments, one of the comments mentioned your videos on her and i decided id like to listen to a different perspective on her. I immediately unsubbed from her. I was concerned why she hadnt posted in 2 months, i thought it was sus because she left no explanation but after Adams video, it made sense why she hadnt posted.

[@aroorooroo]

I have finally finished both these videos and I want to make a comment. It will be lengthy but I’m excited to talk about it ❤ I had been watching Alexa very loosely for a few months. I’m not a podcast person either so I’d just scroll through here and there. I really wanted to support her because I saw Eat Predators was for all survivors of abuse. I am a survivor of CSA, and I wanted to be in a space where I didn’t feel so alone. But I saw how it changed to only being about survivors in the film or music industry. Which had me kind of confused since she has talked about this being a movement for survivors by survivors, but shifting it to only be focused on survivors of the industry keeps it pretty closed. I thought maybe I was wrong for feeling that way, but it seems I wasn’t alone in that thought. I don’t understand her giving so much shit to the kids who bullied her. I was severely bullied too. And as much as bullying affected my life, I don’t ever think about the specific people who bullied me in a way of “Damn that Jessica. You may have bullied me when we were 11 and now we are 24, but I STILL despise you”. Nowadays I just hope that they grew and changed. Also the streams of her showing the inappropriate content, like the kissing videos, Ariana Grande’s videos, or the Amanda Bynes website??? Why would you do that??? They are survivors just as much as you and they did NOT consent to that. Yes Nick posted the kissing video on their KZbin channel, that doesn’t give her the right to showcase that on a stream and be gagging and saying “Ewww! Gross! Look at that!” Just awful behavior. And the last thing I want to touch on is my absolute anger at her always having to make shit about herself. If you want to be a platform for survivors to feel safe and seen, why do you insert your own shit into it constantly? That’s disgusting behavior. You should not be running a “movement” like this if you can’t put your own issues aside and give space to people who need it. Even though truthfully nobody has even come to her podcast to talk about it. It’s like you said, it’s presented as gossip in the way she talks about it. It’s the same reason I don’t watch the h3 podcast despite loving their old videos on h3h3productions. I don’t like gossip podcasts where it’s just people talking about serious allegations/stories from someone else. I had no idea about the Drake Bell podcast she had deleted or all the horrible things she’s done to members of Eat Predators. I’ll probably still keep an eye on her channel out of morbid curiosity if she’ll change, but I won’t be a supporter any longer. Now I will be starting your Girl Defined video because that’s another topic I have been deep diving into for a long time now. I’m a deconstructed Christian as well and it’s wild watching what Girl Defined has become since I did used to watch them here and there as a young Christian afab. Love the channel ❤❤

[@avaph0bic]

1:01:43 no i definitely understand exactly what you’re saying. Alexa seems like she saw the Nickelodeon situation and was like, “hey, i got raped one time, and i worked at Nickelodeon too.” as if her main victimization actually has anything to do with Nickelodeon. which it really doesn’t.

[@JNDReacts]

38:16 Reminds me of those people who will “correct” you if you refer to an adult who’s attracted to pubescent minors as a pedophile. Like I’m automatically suspicious of those people, because I can be a pedantic asshole sometimes, but even I don’t care about the technicalities when it comes to something that morally reprehensible.

[@greaneast]

thank you so much for this video. I really enjoyed listening to your critiques and agree.

[@avaph0bic]

16:23 Alexa sharing about her own story throughout someone else’s story, and the specific details she chooses to share about her story, makes me feel like she is eventually going to try to parallel her experiences with Drake Bell as of late to her experiences traveling during concerts with her abuser. it would be a disgusting thing to do, but i feel like that’s where she’s currently heading and I can absolutely see her doing it at this point Also, the way she is so fucking shocked about the victim’s testimony just goes to show how little she is educated about these things. despite her victimhood suddenly she doesn’t know how disgusting rapists can be.

[@nervous_greenfish]

i cant understand how someone can be this twofaced. it makes my stomach turn seeing how alexa goes from condemning drake bell with such fervor during the victims testimony to essentially being a drake bell fan girl a few weeks later. just shocking.

[@yasenka90]

Am i the only one who finds the name "eat predators" problematic? Eat the rich works because its a class of people aud predators are not a class , they can be every where. It feels like if you disagree you are predators protector.

[@Isesaa1]

To my understanding.. Alexa needs to raise money for the cause somehow. Then she can keep doing what she's doing. However, despite agreeing with her cause, I do get some unsure feelings about her sometimes, so I have been treading lightly.. and I really don't like how she said she "wont be bullied" into re-explaining her opinion on Drake....then what is her channel for? If not exposing predators like him?? I don't get it. I get that she feels attacked, but c'mon.. she should have known that deleting that video out of nowhere would not be a good look, and therefor she should have given us a fair warning before deleting that video. She should understand why people reacted the way that they did, and she could have explained herself in a more productive way. Just my opinion. I appreciate your video and thank you if you took the time to read this comment

[@lisa-lisa-lisa]

Alexa during a live mistook a dark Brando satirical tweet as an actual official tweet and went off. she absolutely could be in Qanon if she isnt already

[@greaneast]

I also had a thought that she sounds like someone who would fall down that rabbit hole. The language she uses is very conspiracy theorist. especially in the video of her accusing Kat of not wanting facts. eek

[@MAIAfterGlow]

Like I always say you can feel sorry for the CHILD NOT THE ADULT…. She manipulates and gaslight people. When she first came out it’s was weird didn’t trust then don’t trust her now.

[@avery5968]

Let’s go part 2😌

[@avery5968]

I went to Party101 by Matt Bennett in San Francisco. He seems like such a kind and genuine guy and he reposted and commented on my insta. Would def recommend!!

[@NightridewithNikki]

You know I've never heard of Alexa until about a week ago.

[@DanielBurtonDidYourWife]

I just have one criticism and it has less to do with Alexa or just a particular point that you brought up that I feel misses the point about journalism and the overrall structure of society. So, having said that, I respectfully disagree with the notion that people should get paid by journalists for sharing their stories. Firstly, because it suggests rather unitentionally that when a specific piece of say investigative journalism gets published, the reporter in a staff position is making a profit solely from the particular story and if its included in an issue of a magazine or a paper that they're entitled to the profits from that copy rather than being compensated as a function of their salary which they would receive regardless of whether or not story goes into print. That alters in a freelance context but even there a writer only gets paid once for the writing of the piece not the decimination that occurs after it's published. Secondly --- and most importantly--- providing subjects with monetary compensation replaces the point of journalism with the logic of capitalism: the notion that nothing is sacred and must bare a price tag if its any worth. The entire point of reporting/journalism is to provide citizens with necessary information about their society in both the macro and the micro, so the information being broadcasted is supposed to be as accessible as possible. To start offering money to those who would be interviewed would signal to the broader world that critical information should be priviliged because now you are not motivated by the purpose of trying inform on a reality like whether or not your government commited war crimes but now a need to make sure your immediate material needs are the top priority, not whether or not the information you have being made public could be possibly better the rest of our lives. Within this problem emerges another problem which is how are you going to decide how much informants get paid? Papers could try to set a fixed amount but informants would argue that the amount offered is not enough so it would follow logically that papers would cave and just give people exactly what they want because they can't not have the information. In a time when newspaper budgets are already thin to disseapearing (an issue that might not get resolved soon) so staff margins are shrinking and resources like fact checkers can't be acquired papers would invitably fold because they wouldn't be able to keep up with having to pay informants what would likely be ridicolous fees for conducting interviews. You get into dangerous territory when you start giving items arbitrary amounts, look at the way we treat housing in America. Having all of the issues with the idea you presented bare, it would be foolish of me not acknowldge why you likely came to that conclusion. The implication is that interview subjects are often poor/don't have access to resources needed in order to survive, so offering them money in exchange for information would somehwat elimeriate their suffering and even the plainfield . That's a very compassionate and humane conclusion to come to given the circumstances but what it does it higlight the fail to highlight the larger elephant in the room in a meaningful way. It shouldn't be the job of private individuals or private instutions to care for the rest society out of pocket. Rather, we should be pushing to reshape our governments in a way where we are provided sufficient economic resources to live a life of dignity. I can speak to this as somone who was born to a Danish mother and having actually done a good portion of my university experience in Denmark and the greater Scandinavia, having governments that provide economic safety nets is a great way to go and I really can't advocate for it enough. I bring this up to say that I don't think you're a bad person or anything of that sort (quite the opposite) but could just that your strain of thinking on that issue is just a product of you and others being raised in a purely American context so there's no avenue to expand our collective imaginations on how to resolve this issues in truly meangful ways. I'm just worried that if the idea of paying people for their stories became popular it would embolden corperate and wealthy America would use it as a vehicle for making journalism more restrictive, which it already has. This is why the biggest news stories about national and international occurances are behind big pay walls on established news sites like the New York Times. I hope you find this constructive.

[@clairephillips8226]

not sure if the cat paintings are yours but i love them💖 the cutest prettiest style and colors

[@tayyrific947]

Danielle Fishel (Topanga) isn't married to anyone associated with Saving Christmas

[@ophie-dokie]

you're so right!!! I don't know why I thought that she was married to Kirk Cameron, I think in my brain I knew Kirk Cameron had married a costar but thought it was just another sitcom lead and for some reason it was Danielle in my head, weird little brain glitch moment lol ty for correcting

[@tayyrific947]

@@ophie-dokie no problem ☺️

[@rojayreid908]

I can't wait until this channel starts to make money🤔

[@ophie-dokie]

thanks bud thats so sweet me neither!!!

[@mv9653]

I hadn’t been caught up on the current issues surrounding her, but wow. Yeah, at best, KZbin fame really went to this woman’s head. At worst, she’s Hopeless Peaches 2.0

[@ebenezerstooge]

No Alexa is a liar. I don’t trust her at all

[@jfsredhead]

in regards to shirts in one of her stream and trish interview she said she sees them as protests signs she had them up before the doc. she also said those who participated the doc approved logo and bought some before she post about them be up as limited offer

[@yanksrgreat]

did the people themselves on the doc publicly say this or just alexas word. and you can hold protests signs for free why does she charge for it. if they are protests sign why doesn't she hand them out then

[@jfsredhead]

@@yanksrgreat just alexa word on that

[@kissarococo2459]

It is weirdly sexual logo.

[@mimmikibilly]

The logo striked me as peculiar-looking as soon as I layed eyes on her podcast. Why is the hand crawling out of the mouth? Eh, that could just be bad design and the lips look like hers to me. Also, why should you "eat" predators? I heard about how the name was born, but wouldn't you want the predator "out" of you?

[@SvenOttkeTheGoat]

Alexa is clearly a narcissist. You can tell how much she's loving being back in the spotlight, not to mention how hypocritical she is on certain things.

[@MJBowie]

I don’t believe that armchair psychology with such a diagnosis is the most productive approach. Many people get called narcissist these days when those could be very clear signs of many other things instead. We don’t see the whole picture like a psychiatrist would in other settings. It’s just not necessary and is distracting from rthe true faults. The problem with that kind of label is that people no longer approach the “narcissist” as someone who can learn and change her faults. Shouldn’t it be our goal to want positive change? I would love for her to listen to what we’re saying but who would listen if we’re just treating her like a narcissist? Anyway, psychology doesn’t work the way you’re approaching it. Be more careful. The words we use do matter.

[@ophie-dokie]

I agree with this response from @MJBowie!! I think there's a lot less hope that Alexa could do better if we sort her as a Narcissist than if we acknowledge that she has tendencies to be self centering and hypocritical, and that ends up with her actions having some of the same side effects but not quite the same root cause as full on narcissism, if only because I think sorting into "narcissist" loses us some nuance the same way sorting into "predator" does and makes people defensive of Alexa a little less likely to hear out what we're saying. I definitely agree though that you can tell how much she enjoys having notoriety for this and that combined with the mistruths/hypocritical moments/constant self centering it really, really damages her ability to be taken seriously

[@Anonymous-em9wq]

Thats ego boosting.

[@JNDReacts]

5:04 I wonder if that person feels the same way about believing child Drake’s accusations against his abuser? Like is it the age or the gender that determines whether or not they believe someone?

[@kr4784]

no way the alexa clip at 1:20:15 is how she herself edited and posted that..... did you cut that at all? even shorten a breath? ANYTHING? surely she couldn't be THAT blatant with making everything about herself omg...

[@bluebaron6858]

I want drake to go away.

[@jfsredhead]

with what you on doc not be good o have seen people criticise how the doc started as when it wasnt actors or on set people talk about their own experiences it came across as sensationalized and having outssders who werent involved

[@ophie-dokie]

there's a really excellent article about Quiet On Set by Ben Rosenstock I was just reading this morning that pointed out that all the use of the clips from the shows started to feel like the documentary was more concerned with making an impression by "ruining viewers childhoods" than by actually having anything truly impactful to say and I think that's a really fair critique to make. The parts that were people who were actually there talking about their experiences had me locked in completely but yeah there were a lot of outsiders who got way too much screentime imo. Here's the link if you're interested :) www.vulture.com/article/what-quiet-on-set-leaves-out.html

[@jfsredhead]

@ophie-dokie plus there been stuff that come out since then give s not a good look to makers of the doc

[@HappyLookinAts]

YES

[@ReebaD]

I really can’t stand hearing about the Johnny Depp “bot farm” crap. Maybe there was some online campaign he was paying for, idk about all that because I developed zero of my opinions about that case based on social media. I watched the trial start to finish, I went into it not knowing anything nor being a fan of either of them, and I agree with the verdict. I agree that Amber was the primary physical aggressor, even if you don’t like the words Johnny Depp used to describe her. I don’t like how he spoke either, but there’s only evidence of Amber being physically abusive and manipulating evidence. This is part of my problem with Alexa too. She said out loud that Johnny’s words were abusive and therefore she stands by Amber… sorry, words don’t excuse hurling a huge glass bottle at a person and cutting their finger off just because you’re a woman and he’s a man. And Amber had plenty of abusive words of her own. The double standard for male victims pisses me off. Women can be abusers too and it doesn’t negate your feminism and advocacy to admit, even embrace, that provable fact. Regardless of how people are speaking about it online, the trial was based on evidence and testimony from both of them, not social media, and the evidence painted a VERY clear picture. And that’s how I feel about Alexa’s claims about bot farms too. Regardless of what’s happening on twitter or wherever else, I’m not paying attention to that to develop my opinion. My opinion comes from watching HER videos, from listening to HER words, from seeing HER actions. The bot farm bullshit is a deflection and an excuse.

[@daydrmingdee]

this just shows you didn't actually watch the trial lol. johnny has been known throughout almost his entire career as someone who is violent. stop making him out to be the victim that he isn't.

[@needmoresnacks]

@@daydrmingdee I also watched the uncut full trial day by day. She said specifically in one instance that she was punched relentlessly, so much so that she forgot how many times, and agreed he was wearing his chunky rings, but claimed she was not hurt enough to see a doctor but also able to cover it up completely with coloring correcting makeup. That's just not possible. I believe women until they are proven flat out to be lying, I don't understand how anyone could disagree that she hasn't after all the testimony from both sides. There are no perfect victims, I have my own past with DV, so I understand some things can be misrepresented or memories can be repressed, but she insisted on several specific events having crystal clear recollection of that just couldn't have happened the way she described. She was physically abusive to him, which she said with her own words. I wasn't super attached to him before that trial as like a fan. I was pretty neutral, and I honestly still am. But Amber was physically and emotionally abusive, that was fully proven in court.

[@Puddinpie696]

I understand what you are saying but at the same time someone that has been left out and bullied in childhood and also being broomed, it causes you to believe everyone is attacking you and wanting alternative unspoken intentions . She talks about her trauma almost daily and she gets re triggered but I do believe that she needs to heal more . It’s not easy to be put in this position when you have a clouded vision on the world …

[@QTpatootie95]

Idk when yall are gonna start using critical thinking skills and realize that if someone is creating a business they are ultimately self serving

[@yanksrgreat]

most of alexas audience is teenagers. so not for years

[@ophie-dokie]

I agree but to be fair to people who are disappointed, she's done a lot to hide the fact that this is a business. She's always calling it an organization and a movement and never being upfront about the fact that it's a stock company for profit. I wouldn't have cared enough to need to dig in deep if she was being upfront about that the way say, Christy Carlson Romano is with Vulnerable and her youtube channel, that's all very clearly Business and people who interact with it I think understand that a bit more than the people interacting with Eat Predators do. I also agree with this reply that the age of the audience probably does really impact people not thinking more critically beyond just "well this person went through something I haven't lived through so they can't do anything wrong or I'm asking them to be a perfect victim". Self serving I think is a pretty perfect summarization of what Eat Predators became once Alexa got full control over it

[@maximusprime3459]

​@@ophie-dokieShe def knows how to manipulate terminology.

[@Savagemode09]

Not all of us are teenagers but I'm giving this video a fair chance to explain because I'm lost in the sauce when it comes to drama or just nonsense ​@@yanksrgreat

[@MajorFrank10]

Nice

[@MariePascal82]

If you've been through anything bad (and I think you know what I mean by "bad") you can definitely spot that kind of person a mile away. DB raised that red flag for me, the moment I began reading about him. (I did not know who he was until this year, I am too old to have watched his TV shows, so I had only heard his name. So I decided to read up on the controversy) Just looking at his photo made me cringe. I'm not calling him unattractive, I'm talking about recognizing the kind of person he is... I don't even want to remotely get into the kind of men I've had to endure in my life, because this is not the place to do it. But in my opinion, DB has those vibes. 100 percent! He has fans left? Really? Well, these days, I'm not surprised. SMH. And honestly, I don't get the problem people have with Alexa. It's scary enough for me to leave this comment, let alone do the kind of public work she has done, TRYING her damndest to bring justice to the world. I'm respectfully disagreeing with anyone who doesn't find Alexa N. a hero. To a lot of us she is.

[@bydivadream]

and now Alexa was just spotted at Drake Bell's concert as his VIP backstage guest

[@eddierascalhaskell4954]

​@@bydivadreamThats a shame. No wonder shes gone silent again. Shes waiting for the next Ex-Nickelodeon star to have an interview so she can piggyback on that too.

[@susan4912]

Respectfully, not everyone who has been a victim of "something bad" can recognize red flags in people like you claim. If that was true, no one would be revictimized or end up in multiple relationships with abusers, which is something that happens often. Saying stuff like that can make victims feel ashamed for not seeing signs after the first offense.

[@susan4912]

Also, if you watched Alexa's videos on DB you'd see her defend him because of his victimhood, even though victims can be and sometimes are also perpetrators.

[@mimmikibilly]

Sorry, you said you got a red flag AFTER reading about him, I assume it happened while you went through the whole situation. I haven't picked a side yet, if it's even needed, but I started to have a crumbly opinion about her when commenters started pointing out how she was talking about certain people, but ignoring others she was working with. Now, I don't like the mentality that you have to know everybody's past before you are friends with them, or that you should shun anybody that doesn't align with you, but with the vocality she has about certain -rightfully enraging- topics such as grooming and child SA, some people assume she will keep those friends away and stop associating with them. Also, yeah some people learn after making a few of similar mistakes, others don't though. I also didn't like the analysis Alexa made of DB's body language, because yeah he had a smirk, but if I have to be honest to me she looks like she's faking a more compassionate face for the sake of the podcast, so what should I go with? I think she still has a lot to unoack, which she probably will have for all of her life, but if you are talking publicly to help people out, you should try to be less fluctuating in your opinion and reason with your audience about why you had this shift. I'm neutral in this moment, but I unsubscribed from Alexa for now.

[@bratalina]

calling trish’s podcast a drama podcast is soooo inaccurate & clearly biased 🙄 your distain for alexa seems based more in personal opinion versus facts. i’m not an alexa fan nor do i dislike her so i don’t really have a horse in this race

[@bratalina]

@@Lettheflamesbeginx3not having a horse & not knowing are two different things hun

[@kalikayy]

You guys are really gross. Should Alexa make no money for her children and family and just starve? Should she just dissapear because you all dont like her? Because you dont want to hear her story anymore? Move along. Do something positive.

[@meesh11p]

Self-described leaders of a movement aren't above criticism and there's a lot to be critical about. Stating that her only options are "continue eat predators "or starve to death" is absolutely wild framing. People swap professions all of the time. But she's not stopping anytime soon as long as trauma exploitation continues to be profitable. She will never take any accountability and just enough of her followers are okay with that for it to be profitable.

[@kalikayy]

@@meesh11p well no that's not my framing at all people are criticizing her for making money. And what money is she really making she lives streams everyday in the same five shirts, where's the money? It's going back into what she's doing be fr. And no everyone is not at your disposal to criticize. This is dog piling. Shes stated the online hate is hurting her, why continue? It's gross. We pick apart people who are doing good things and have good intentions and the conversation of Nickelodeon and child acting has completely fallen to the wayside.

[@meesh11p]

@@kalikayy It is your framing because you're saying that her family will starve if she stops selling merch. This won't happen though, as enough of her viewers follow her uncritically due to their parasocial relationship with her. She is a public figure running a movement - it's very concerning to me that you don't think that leaders shouldn't be accountable for their hypocritical behaviors. There were plenty of her viewers who came to her with good faith criticisms and she hand waved all of it by calling it "hate". As an ex-fan of EP, some common criticisms of her are: Going on trisha's podcast, going on Megyn Kelly in general. Selling overpriced merch right after quiet on set without discussing it with/compensating any quiet on set survivors. Deleting her drake bell live stream that showed the survivor talking in court about her trauma and impact statement and Alexa refuses to show the survivor any care by not following up on it. Naming and shaming actual survivors in the community with their full names and pictures (some call that doxxing) on live streams. Some of those people were from her now defunct discord that have detailed their mistreament by Alexa as well. She wasn't starving before the merch and she won't starve after - her channel memberships, live donations and patreon supporters are plentiful. Good intentions can only get so far if the person refuses to apologize and grow from mistakes. These are not "doing good things" to me. This is not what an accountable leader of a movement does.

[@kalikayy]

@@meesh11p again, not my framing. And never did I say I don't think people shouldnt be held accountable. But what does she need to be held accountable for, doing things you disagree with? Try speaking some positivity into the world 👋

[@meesh11p]

@@kalikayy You said "And no everyone is not at your disposal to criticize." . A leader of a survivor collective must be able to receive criticism and listen to others. But she dismisses all criticism as haters or bots which makes it impossible for her to ever take accountability for her harmful behaviors. I believe that you think people should be held accountable if they do something wrong. The problem is she only accepts praise from people but never addresses their concerns. Apologizing for doxxing and shaming survivors on stream is the bare minimum. And she won't do it. I did provide a whole list of things people take issue with in my comment above. This video talks about these things in great detail and nuance. And no, I won't feign positivity about someone who can't even follow her own standards of apologizing and accountability that she asks of other people. There are plenty of other people that are worth uplifting in this space.

[@genuinedelusionsmusic]

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