Why I Chose Kioti NX4510 HST

Walk around of the machine and some of the reasons I chose Kioti over other brands and the NX4510 HST over a smaller machine. YES I realize my camera work is poor, I'm not a professional youtuber......

[@hitied1]

I’m taking delivery of a NX5010 next week and after watching your post, I might add the hydraulic top link. I also have a Kubota M5140 that’s turning pink in its old age. It’s going to be interesting to compare the two. Thanks for your introduction. Good info

[@chainsawcabinetshop492]

I had three hooks welded on the bucket of my Rhino 344. I use that middle hook a good deal of the time. Thanks for the review.

[@deanbarr5740]

Congratulations on your tractor i recently about two weeks ago got a new J.D.3025E its only 25 hp. What i had my heart set on was a Mahindra. Im like you color wasn't an issue. After all their all foreign made no matter what brand. Hope you have good service with your Kioti they have some of the best reviews on KZbin.

[@kapperoutdoors]

Nice video very well-thought-out and I agree they do pay attention to details. Take Care thank you

[@jamesharless5357]

Very nice looking tractor, congratulations!

[@kansascowboy5721]

The hydraulic top link is a GREAT idea! I’ve never thought about it but it would make things easier to adjust

[@sandycampbell447]

Agreed

[@bullrambler]

I've tested a few tractors and the Kioti NX4510 is one of the best tractors I tried at that power range. It is a bit bigger and heavier then a DK. It rides better then a CK and has decent power to weight ratio. It's definitely one of the best tractors in that size and cost.

[@BA-nz5io]

This was awesome. Thank you. I just looked at a Kubota mx5400 today and a JD 4044m. Both quoted 30k+ even before I wanted to add rear remotes and a 3rd function. Being I have just about every brand dealer within an hour of my 42 acres it's been really tough to figure out what will work but I will be doing many of the same types of projects i think so this looks like it might be my go to. Thanks again.

[@cmvalentino]

Glad it was helpful. I'm not a fanboy & shopped all the brands with local dealers. In a nutshell, about same capability as a Kubota MX4800 and fairly close in price to that machine, but with all the extra features you'd get with a Grand L where the MX is a workhorse and doesn't include the extra upgrades. Not knocking Kubota or the MX - they're great, just feel like I got more for my money. Kubota loader is faster and smoother, especially when doing curl & raise at same time. Mine is a little stronger but Kubota really gets their loaders right and no one else is as good. Granted 45HP is overkill for most of what I do, but this machine is strong. Even with filled tires and a 6' box blade on the back, I'll get the rear wheels off the ground before I run out of loader lift strength. I can bush hog waist high weeds/grass in M full speed & no lack of PTO HP to do it. With teeth fully down on 72" box blade, it will literally shear a tooth before it anchors the tractor if I get hung up on a good enough rock or something & that's with R4 tires. Big enough rock and catch more than 1 ripper will anchor it, but in general it will PULL. It has the annoying habit of starting regen as soon as I pull up to fuel pump :) but otherwise I have no complaints about the T4 emission stuff. It pretty much does regen in the background and other than smell, might not even notice it's doing it. Like if you're bush hogging or tilling so engine speed is enough for 540 RPM @ PTO, if you don't see the light is on or smell the burn off, you won't realize you're in regen. Does it about every 35-40 hrs. Lastly, service was pretty easy and did it all myself. Finding some of the filters vs paying dealer price was probably hardest part...that & the big HST filter is installed by an 800lb gorilla and crazy tight, but simple enough to work on yourself overall.

[@BA-nz5io]

@@cmvalentino awesome! Being I'm looking to have this machine for the foreseeable future I like the idea of being a bit more comfortable while doing the work. That linked pedal feature is a really nice deal especially with the loader being my main focus. Thanks again!

[@RiverRidge27]

What tractor did you end up getting?

[@BA-nz5io]

@@RiverRidge27 I actually ended up with the Kioti DK4710 Hst with a cab. Haven't looked back. It's done everything I've asked of it with no issues with the tractor itself. Had a couple minor issues with attachments (orings going bad) but that's it. I also found a really great dealer and that's been the best part for when I have had issues, the owner has always answered even when I've called on weekends. Find a good dealer and work a deal that makes sense for you. Mine was running a tractor and loader +trailer +5 attachment deal when I bought it. Got ballast filled tires, 3rd function valve and hookups (MUST HAVE), grapple, box blade, and bad boy rotary cutter. Traded the trailer for the cab since I use the cab everytime vs I still would not have used the trailer once in 2 years. Dealer now offers that trade up front when he runs the specials. I use the grapple more than anything. Got all those thing for around 42k. Which again, a Kubota or JD with all that would've been well above 60k

[@donaldpedigo296]

... ( 1.50-X ) is the Best Playback Speed for this Video....You'll get all of the good information, and not have to spend so much time ... Nice Machine and Nice Video ...

[@pjp80s]

Nice machine! On par of not better than my grand L. Kioti does make nice tractor. I still miss my kioti ck. Good luck!

[@sandycampbell447]

Thanks brother. Appreciate the video.

[@HoneyBadgerFarm]

I went with a DK4510 for 17 acres and love it. This NX will handle your 7 with no problems at all.

[@altadutch]

Great video! Thanks.

[@michaelbayliss1794]

Nice tractor , like where the fuel tank is . Much easier then the New Holland I had . Try lifting 5 gallons of diesel up high ? Question , is their much there to protect the fuel tank other than the steps ? Good luck with you're new tractor.

[@barney1941]

put a large contractor black bag over seat if you have no cover. i did get a super cover from silver lake fabrication. very well made, will save sun damage. it is a 44 lb cover . a bit of a challenge to put on ,other than that i love the cover. i roll mine from front and rear and the 2 rolls meet just in front of steering wheel.

[@barney1941]

i had pats ez change on my 3 point , best add on i ever bought, i have a 2022 tym t494 now i love it

[@mattw2078]

have the same tractor with about 220 hrs and really like it, one thing to watch out for is the loader lines as they go under the floor board there on the right side they will rub through on that edge, i had to bend that lip up and put a piece of rubber around the lines to keep them from rubbing through

[@cmvalentino]

Thanks for the warning! I will check that area out and make sure mine aren't rubbing.

[@ronfry3324]

Watch where you put your hands and fingers while connecting that hyd top link. Know alot of farmers missing fingers and damaged hands from trying to connect hyd cylinders on equipment. Those cylinders dont stop easily once moving.

[@slow6.7]

You are correct

[@davehudson4607]

As mentioned before, get a camera man / woman, missing a lot, pictures are good. Worth a thousand words!

[@311hitwall]

i am in NC as well and Reedy is probably the biggest dealer close to me. Do you still have and any issues? One thing i don't like is the exposed cables for the loader - coming out of the loader joystick. Have you snagged your foot on them? One other thing I noticed is that the 5510 has 17.5 rear tires. I guess they are just wider or are they a larger diameter as well? Is that something you considered - the larger tires? The 5510 has cat 1 and 2

[@cmvalentino]

Still have & no issues

[@MountainMan104]

Thank you for this review. I have never owned a tractor but Im about to. I have been considering a Kubota MX5400 (new for 2020) but you got me thinking Kioti. I will visit my local Kioti dealer before I make any move!

[@yellowmetaldriver1460]

Question on the 3pt hitch end, does it have the ability to put downforce on the implement? = Some need the weight of the implement to provide the downforce. Those twin cylinders seem stout but cant tell if they are lift only or if they can push down or lock into a fixed depth. Thanks in advance

[@cmvalentino]

Gravity. Pretty sure every tractor out there is that way. Hydraulic downforce on the 3pt would destroy most imements.

[@Hambone556]

Nice video sir. I am in the market for the same tractor. I live in lower Alabama. There are only 2 dealers within 100 miles from us. One in Leesburg, GA. and North FL. After researching and driving the 3 brands around these parts, I think I'm still going to end up getting this tractor. Like you mentioned in your video, this is a very equipped tractor for the price. I almost pulled the trigger on a L4701 but after seeing the tractor in person and really seeing what I get for the money, I quickly changed my mind. Keep the videos coming, thanks Jeremy

[@ASCOTTY84]

Jeremy Hicks I am in the same boat considering the dealer is only about 40 miles from me.. I was considering a l4701 as well and now seeing this dk4510 it's a great tractor and and way more bang for your buck than the standard L series. I think we will enjoy this tractor. The operator station is well thought out and that seat is WAY more comfortable than the kubota...not knocking a kubota I love them as well but this is a great tractor. Good luck

[@PhillipFulgham]

Jeremy, JBT Power in Daphne Al deals in Kioti.

[@andrewcompton2124]

Jeremy, what city do you live in? There is now a dealer near Troy, AL. I live near Dothan, and I bought my Kioti 2.5 hours away over in Norman Park, GA

[@Hambone556]

Andrew Compton just outside of Newton north of dothan. I ended up getting it from elite Ag in Leesburg GA. Awesome folks there!

[@andrewcompton2124]

Jeremy YO Momma I live in Newton also lol. I've had some service work done at elite Ag. Yea Adam is a great guy to work with.

[@remb9614]

I’m a dual pedal guy also 👍

[@justachristiansoldier9609]

Looks like an awesome tractor but if you really liked the LS why didn't you upgrade to another LS? Just curious.

[@cmvalentino]

I need the loader to go as high as possible for the berms I build & maintain. LS has really strong loaders, but they don't go very high. Not a problem for most people, but dump clearance was a real important spec for me. Something like an LS XR4046, its loader goes to max height of 96" and has dump clearance of 66". Mine goes to 108" height & dump clearance of 83". I would have had to gone up to an XU model LS to get same dump clearance & those start at 55HP.

[@justachristiansoldier9609]

@@cmvalentino makes sense, you got an awesome tractor

[@yellowmetaldriver1460]

Does the kioti hst reaction dial actually change the depth of engagement for the HST pedal on the new models or only how quick it moved thru the range once engaged? I understand they went to a solenoid HST in the last year or two and the pedal has a totally different feel from direct link HST pedals. The local dealer here had no clue other than saying all tractors were like that which its not. There was no engagement, forward or reverse, until at least 1/3rd of the pedal was depressed. Does this dial change that so its changes the take-up slop before engagement? Cant find any video or specifics other than mention of the dial but would like to see detailed info on it.

[@cmvalentino]

No, there is a separate pedal adjust procedure in the manual (or maybe the service manual) to do what you are talking about. That dial adjusts how "soft" the HST takes off and stops. i.e. if you let off the forward pedal it can coast to a stop (extreme one way) or almost jerk to a stop (extreme other way). The pedals feel the same as far as foot pressure and engagement point, it's just how does the transmission response behave - fast, slow, in between

[@yellowmetaldriver1460]

@@cmvalentino Much appreciate you taking the time to reply! Have you been happy with your purchase? I am considering the NX4510 or NX5010. Any videos of you doing loader work with your nx4510? Thanks

[@cmvalentino]

@@yellowmetaldriver1460 yep, it has been a good machine. No videos of the loader. The specs are pretty much spot on. With loaded rears and a 6' box blade it will still raise the rear tires. Very strong. I can lift an IBC tote with 300gal of water on pallet forks. Not to full height, but can lift and move it around. Consider how far out in front of pins that is and that shows the loader is no joke. It is not as smooth as a Kubota loader but close. It won't raise and uncurl like a Kubota. It does the motion but 2 movements at once like that slows it way down. Compared to Kubota of same size lifts higher, lifts more weight, but Kubota is a good 10% smoother.

[@yellowmetaldriver1460]

@@cmvalentino much appreciate the detailed response!

[@rikkilee9409]

where are you mounting ur holster? im on the fence with kioti and yanmar, i decide at 9am yt 235 or ck3510se

[@zachelias175]

Rikki lee what did you End up going with?

[@cmvalentino]

I wear it on my right hip, not mounted directly to tractor. Not comfortable since the seatbelt female part is right there too. But overall best place for combination of on and off tractor tasks

[@wayofthewordwow7574]

Nice tractor

[@cmvalentino]

Thanks

[@briangammons8242]

I’m not too far from you. Looking to buy a tractor. Reedy Creek is on my list to check out the kioti tractors next week. Still have this tractor? Any issues or complaints?

[@cmvalentino]

Still have it. No issues that weren't my fault (operator error).

[@cmvalentino]

Also....I shopped a lot of brands & a lot of dealers around here. Matthew at Reedy Creek was best by far.

[@briangammons8242]

@@cmvalentino went by reedy creek and got a price today. Can order one but I’ll have to wait till September or October before it will be here.

[@abrad3061]

Are you still happy with your choice?

[@jhtrue80]

How has Reedy Creek been for service i am looking at getting a ns model kioti from them. How has the tractor held up for you over time

[@cmvalentino]

They're pretty good dealer over all but haven't really needed them for service. Had to have them order me parts for things I broke due to operator error - like bush hog tailwheel fork because I didn't setup bush hog correctly and mangled it. I did 50 hr service myself so haven't really needed their service dept for anything other than ordering a part here & there. THE only issue I've had with the tractor as far as something breaking is the mirror mounts. They're welded onto very thin walled steel tube by the foot guards on each side. If you adjust the mirror with enough tension it isn't always working loose & moving, it can easily be too tight & not swing out of the way when you get too close to brush or pines or whatever. That was my case & ended up breaking the welds on both sides. My fault or the tractor's fault? probably some of both, but the mirror mounts are a weak point for sure

[@jhtrue80]

@@cmvalentino thanks for the response glad to hear things are good with the tractor

[@TayloredCrafters]

how much?

[@311hitwall]

Are armrests an option? what is that can where the hoses are located?

[@cmvalentino]

Good question. I don't remember them being an option but didn't specifically ask for them. Wish I would have - at times i would like to have.

[@MaineOutdoorsChannel]

the NX4510 is available in a shuttle shift transmission... see link... www.kioti.com/products/tractors/nx-series/nx4510/ I am leaning towards the shuttle shift if I buy a tractor...

[@MaineOutdoorsChannel]

Why did you decide against the shuttle shift transmission?

[@cmvalentino]

HST is just insanely simple :) I do mostly loader work so that's forward into pile, back out, move, position, dump, back away, back to pile, repeat. That and bush hogging are 95% of my work My land has a lot of rough spots so I vary speed constantly when bush hogging. So HST is just simpler and most efficient. Plus Mrs CMV can just jump on & go because minus the loader & 3-pt controls it's almost as simple as a basic riding mower to operate - at least just to move it from point A to B is that simple. I'm not sure, but I don't think this even comes with anything other than HST. DK and CK do, but not sure how no-stall. PTO cruise, linked pedals, etc would work without HST? Dunno, this is only one dealer had at time so I had nothing to compare to.

[@marvinr5054]

Can I ask what was the out the door price on this tractor?

[@cmvalentino]

$28k for everything except tiller. Bought it separately.

[@marvinr5054]

It looks great. Thank you

[@311hitwall]

Reedy quoted me 29,650.00 for the 5510HST.and 2 sets of rear remotes with fluid in tires. I can't believe 10 more HP is $3K. Have you had any issues? Didn't you look at the LS XR series in that HP?

[@cmvalentino]

That 2nd rear remote isn't cheap so that's a good chunk of the extra $3k. And there needs to be some price separation because they are the same thing. Exactly same - engine is tuned differently for the HP difference. Yes, I looked at LS first because that's what my small 25HP was and I liked it. LS loader didn't have high enough dump clearance for me. But nice machine. If you don't want all the NX extras, look at DK in 50HP range. Oh...at some point...either 55 or 65 HP the NX moves to a CAT II 3pt hitch. If the 5510 does, that's something more too.

[@tractorman2131]

Kioti had come a long way in a short period of time

[@jhoodied4861]

How much?

[@carlhelmick8104]

I'm just asking OK. No need to get upset. Wondering why you didn't think about a 4 in 1 bucket. If you don't pick up anything to big, like about a quart size log not much over 6 to 10 footlong you can take the 4 in 1 bucket and bite it up and you don't have to chase it all over the place trying to pick it up or put a chain around it if you don't get much over a gallon-size log & not much over 10 ft long you can bite it up very easily and and walk it over somewhere to the side. It keeps you, if you are by yourself from having to jump on and off the tractor so much. And I'm just asking. little on the Curious side but this is just me I would have got one with a 4 in 1 bucket but that's like I say that's me and also I've operated heavy equipment all my life for a little over 40 years so it would just make it a little easier for me . I do a lot of stuff by myself. Any way good vid, enjoy your new ride. 😊👍

[@cmvalentino]

I switch frequently between pallet forks and the standard front bucket - sometimes a rock bucket too. No idea if you can still do that as easily with a 4-in-1. Other big reason is tractor came standard with the 72" bucket and only one remote which I wanted to use for hydraulic top link. So would have been additional expense adding 3rd function and then the 4-in-1 bucket itself. Would definitely be useful at times

[@carlhelmick8104]

CMV OK, good enough buddy. Oh the control for 4 in 1 should be mounted on your control lever for your bucket anyway as a trigger button some of them have a little liver right beside your control lever but that's that's okay. I understand what you're saying. Any way buddy always be safe at what ever you do with you tractor. Have a great day. Always stay cool 😎👍

[@edgarartis1260]

"THEY PUT IT ON FOR FREE"

[@Warsign01]

How much did just the tractor cost?

[@cmvalentino]

Just the tractor and loader was a little over $26k. But regional pricing and current promotions will make prices fluctuate. Financed price would have been higher

[@kbwfgg6400]

Well my kubota MX5200 HST, 4wd, with the HD bucket ($1000), front remote($$), pallet forks, and loaded tires, $30,500.

[@johnhurt1583]

wait until you punch a hole in your fuel tank if you do any work in the woods but I do like the rest of the tractor

[@bigjack6015]

John Hurt that’s what I’m thinking!

[@aussiedave1962]

Yeah, it's in a convenient spot but its got no protection at all.

[@Carocade]

Could probably weld a protective box around it to keep that from happening

[@travishill260]

aussiedave1962 There is a steal plate that the tank sits on, but I agree, it could be better.

[@HuntrPat]

Could not see what you're discribing if the camera isn't centered on the subject.

[@gregoriuskenton7561]

this tractor nice, sell in Indonesia? Hy from east borneo

[@cmvalentino]

Probably but would be under Daedong brand name. Kioti are only North America, Daedong rest of world.

[@barney1941]

i got a price on grand L6060 $53000 so i went with NX for 32k

[@hitied1]

Anybody else wish it included a tool box?

[@plainwornout3964]

Half the time the camera wasn't even pointed at what you were talking about. LOL

[@frankcastle7777]

I like Kioti but they cost more than John Deere where I live.

[@kurtosborn6291]

Where do you live? That’s hard to believe they are more expensive then a Deere!!!

[@brucedeleskey8540]

How much did you pay for this nobody says why

[@cmvalentino]

It was around $26 for just the tractor. People don't list prices because they're always different. Rebates, cash vs 0% finance, dealer-to-dealer difference, plus videos age so what I paid a few years ago doesn't mean it costs same today.

[@crazyhass84]

I didnt see anything that made it better than any other tractor... except price. U get what u pay for. So good luck.

[@justd02ofus]

The Gas tank is in a good place to get tore off by a stomp etc. I prefer the tank behind the seat .

[@Curious_Skeptic]

Oh, so many regrets going with an overpriced green machine. 7K more than I paid for my 2025R, I could have had a Kioti NX4510 HST TLB and a mower! (maybe, not even that much) OH well... Live and learn!

[@Curious_Skeptic]

A year later, I am still pissed I purchased a JOHN DEERE!. Front rim has literally split apart and is destroyed! I didn't by Kioti as I was worried about quality! I am buying Orange next round. JD 2025R has not impressed me for the money I paid. I'd be lucky to get 10k for it these days. Didn't hold up well and after 5 years, it's having more and more issues each time I use it. SAD. Hope your Kioti NX4510 HST is still going strong!

[@firehawk6188]

Uhh count = 12,538

[@bank80]

Sounds like you could have rented equipment for a week just to move dirt and the rest would be maintenance. 7 acres isn't a lot of land. I guess you have money to blow.

[@windellpenton]

bank80 lay off .. I maintain about 15 acres .. I borrowed a neighbors tractor for a while. Nothing like having your “own” when you need it.. after 5 short years mine is paid for with less than 500 hours .. it will last my lifetime.. cheers !!!

[@bank80]

windell penton Do you have this same tractor? Cheers to the salemen who are selling you all more tractor than you need. You don't just spend more money up front, but you're consistently paying more for fuel and paying twice as much for larger implements. Like I said, money to blow...but it's your money. Probably could have bought more land with that.

[@jasonsechrist1]

Like you said it's his money. Quit being a dick.

[@justachristiansoldier9609]

@bank80 that is a good question, I know of people with much, much more land that don't have that much of tractor, there is a lot of disposable income these days, car manufacturers can't make $65k pickups fast enough, but if I had it I would probably spend it too.

[@cmvalentino]

You don't know what my specific needs are so you have no idea how much tractor I "need". But I think I did explain in video that building & maintaining my berms was a reason for the upsize and the the tractor is oversized for much of what I do. Still better and more convenient than renting a full size construction backhoe for $1,000s a couple times a year. What I do or don't spend MY money on effects you 0, so no idea why you feel need to criticize my decision to get a machine sized to the task I need vs having money in a smaller one AND continuing to pay rentals. That would be wasteful.