WHY I chose M1 Pro over the M1 Max MacBook Pro! MacBook Buyers Guide 💻

[@GoldenRvr]

I love this video and your style!

[@ImLeeLoi]

Thanks Joe! Be sure to check out the rest of my MacBook Pro M1 Coverage on my channel. Thanks for the support!

[@SekCarmy10]

Im going from 2014 Dell chromebook that ive been using since starting middle school to 14 inch m1 max 😄 this will be my first ever macbook and first real computer. It will be very interesting

[@ImLeeLoi]

I can't even imagine! Have you much experience using a full desktop OS like Windows or Mac OS X compared to the browser cloud based operating system on Chromebooks!? You will definitely enjoy the new display on the MacBook compared to the Dell!

[@SekCarmy10]

@@ImLeeLoi I have very little experience on Windows 7 and zero on Mac os. I do know quite alot about computers and their specs though, just very little about the OS. Im in college now and my computer is making school way harder then it should be. I spend a lot of time staring at loading screens when i could be doing work. I was going to purchase M1 macbook early this year but I decided to be patient and it was definitely worth it. Im real excited to see how powerful this macbook will be. I got the 14” M1 Max 10/32 32 1TB arriving first week of November 🙏

[@ImLeeLoi]

@@SekCarmy10 Congratulations first off on College! I think this is a great reward and you can chuck out that Chromebook.

[@Sophie-if5oc]

i’m coming from 2013 macbook! i ordered the macbook pro 14 silver max chip! cannot wait for mine to come! it says 19th to 26th of november. so a bit of a wait but it will be so worth it! also i’m from dublin too!

[@ImLeeLoi]

Amazing! We love an Irish tech enthusiast! What a great journey you had with the 2013, it’s time to retire it.

[@shirleykchaps]

The intro was amazing 😂

[@ImLeeLoi]

I'm glad you liked it. Actually the MacBook money is still in my account so I feel rich for now but once Apple hits it oOOfff *double homicide*

[@masterstacker2833]

KZbin: Nobody needs the maxed out Max. Gamers: Hold my latte.

[@ImLeeLoi]

I'd hold out if your a gamer to see how Apple SOC Virtualisation evolves. I've seen one video of Overwatch playing at 120+ FPS in a virtual machine on the new Mac but it's not that conclusive just yet.

[@masterstacker2833]

@@ImLeeLoi 32 GPUs being fed by 64GB of unified 32 channel DDR5-6400 Ram with PlayStation 5 throughput on to ProRez HDR. Not saying this is a gaming machine but it should be able to game quite well if you want that in addition to screaming through Final Cut. The handwriting is on the wall and geforce/radian are well behind the SoC curve.

[@Nicola-bt7dc]

If you already got the 32 gb might as well for $200 get the 24gpu m1 Max with double bandwidth.

[@ImLeeLoi]

See my reasoning at 3:16!! :)

[@Andytizer]

These are good tips, always think about selling, in 2 years you’ll be wanting to sell as soon as there’s an inevitable upgrade available :). Also I think contents insurance is more worthwhile than AppleCare. I chose to get each base model of 14, 16 and 16 Max for best delivery time, and I’ll probably return one or two of them. If I had the time I would’ve bought the 14 with the Max chip as the 14 is a better form factor.

[@ImLeeLoi]

@@Andytizer I've never had a good experience with Insurance. If I'm selling it in two years time at least I can say there's an extra year warranty left on it! Haha, lets face it you're going to keep that 16 Max - what a beast!!! Today I only found out the 16 inch will have that high performance fan turbo boosting mode. I do like the 14 form factor.

[@Andytizer]

@@ImLeeLoi I’ve used contents insurance to replace computers a few times now, haven’t had any issue yet whereas I think AppleCare is a more risky route as accidental damage is not covered. I’m not sure I can justify keeping the 16 Max, but we’ll see, I only need to keep one or two for testing purposes.

[@Nicola-bt7dc]

@@ImLeeLoi the max has high power mode that will optimize performance to better support resource-intensive tasks. This may result in louder fan noise, which I think why it an extra fan and weighs more. Just makes sense for 200 bucks more if you're already at the 32 gig to go with the max.

[@smilebot484]

that's the problem. the price difference between the base max and a pro at 1 tb and 32 gb is so marginal. that's where i'm stuck. i ordered the base max but then cancelled. wondering if i can live with 16 gb. not sure

[@ImLeeLoi]

From my preliminary testing with the Pro (unboxing video is now live) i've been happy with the Pro model so far.

[@johnkilmerstone]

I’m going from the MacBook Air M1 8GB to the MacBook Pro 14 inch 10/16/16 M1 Pro 516GB. I’m expecting a big boost in performance for my Photo & Video editing.

[@ImLeeLoi]

That you should get! I know the Airs ran slower than the other M1's because it was fanless. I think a smart choice by keeping the smaller form factor - are you excited?? When is your delivery date?

[@johnkilmerstone]

@@ImLeeLoi Yes, I’m really looking forward to getting it. The delivery will be between November 26th and December 4th. That’s a long wait. I’ll be eagerly watching all the reviews on my iPad during that time. I’ve already sold my MacBook Air on Yahoo Auction for ¥92,000 (US$807). Not bad considering that the Apple trade in was ¥55,000 (US$483). I’ve had the MacBook Air for a year, so it’s cost me around ¥5000 (US$44) a month. I usually change to the latest model every 2 to 3 years as I like the idea of leasing the latest technology which I always have covered with AppleCare. I’ll be upgrading again in the next few years for sure using the same process. I usually buy the base models as they have the best resale value.

[@Cosmopolitm]

I just subscribed because theatrical intro

[@ImLeeLoi]

THANK YOU very much! Gotta put those filmmaking skills to use haha. I appreciate it, I'll try make sure all my videos now open with a fun skit!

[@linnyunt]

Can I suggest recording your audio with a lav mic rather than the onboard camera mic?

[@ImLeeLoi]

Good call I do have a Lav - didn’t realise this video would blow up!

[@sdoxsee]

Thanks for the video. Doing almost the same but doing the binned 14 core GPU instead. As a software developer, cpu and memory are important but not GPU. I can put my late 2013 MBP to rest, finally. Cheers

[@ImLeeLoi]

The binned SOC is still going to be fantastic! Get the upgrades you need, there's more than enough brawn to power the new gorgeous XDR Display and the other graphics you'll encounter on a daily basis! Congratulations on getting your use out of that late 2013 MBP! What a journey, like a trust worthy car!

[@MikeBotrosDIYHomeGarden]

I bought a base 16”. If I was upgrading to 32 I would have definitely upped to the M1 max for 50% more gpu cores. Over the 5-10 years I plan to keep it that $200 would be worth it. We’ll see if I run into a bottleneck with the 16GB Ram and I might upgrade sooner than planned.

[@ImLeeLoi]

So your a graphics power user? I think if you are the GPU upgrade is worth it as I said but I’m never doing any graphic intensive tasks. Only photoshopping and Video which already has the decoder on the M1 Pro. My understanding was the 2nd Decoder allowed you to export two videos at once but if the 2nd decoder does double performance for H265 I will consider swapping!

[@MikeBotrosDIYHomeGarden]

@@ImLeeLoi more so for future proofing. I want to get more into davinci resolve and fusion. Or at least get better with Apple motion. But for stacking effects and color corrections. I have a maxed out 2012 rMBP and it’s lasted me 9 years. Of course no more OS updated so it had 8 years of support. If I could get 8 years and not have to upgrade again would be great. But we’ll see. I wanted the 16” for max screen real estate for mobile editing because I don’t like being tied down to a desk. But yes the max has double the prores encode/decode. So that would definitely last years.

[@FoxSleeping]

The smartest thing to do ALWAYS is not rush to buy after a keynote. Wait for the KZbinrs to present to us their testing, experiences and analysis.

[@ImLeeLoi]

And mine will be coming very soon! Just recorded my unboxing and begun preliminary testing!

[@FoxSleeping]

For those who remember the 2011 MacBook Pro 17”…..that was 6.6 pounds. The new MacBook Pro 16” is 4.6. Two full pounds lighter.

[@ImLeeLoi]

My first MacBook was a Early 2008 17 inch, it was a whopping 6.8 pounds and it was HEAVY! If you haven’t upgraded your Mac in 10 years from the 17 inch 2011 the 16 inch will be fine and it will be much lighter.

[@mrzouz]

great logic, don't fall for oh it's just this much extra and you will get this which may (or mostly may not) be useful sometime in 4 years, well guess what in 2 years you will want the new MBP features more than the not used extras on your 2 years old macbook pro. I think you picked perfectly but for me the extra hours and larger display is a big bonus on 16", but the extra weight argh... tough choices.

[@ImLeeLoi]

I think if you the extra battery life is useful get the 16 inch for sure. Even under full load that might translate into an extra 90 mins which is always nice! :)

[@JonFairhurst]

I went with a similar configuration. I use mine for music and need to load many samples, so RAM size is important. I first ordered a 1TB version, but I’m already over the 0.5 TB of my current MacBook Pro, so I canceled it and went with 2TB. Don’t buy for what you need today. Buy for 4-5 years in the future.

[@ImLeeLoi]

Did you go M1 Pro or M1 Max. I think emphasis is buying what YOU NEED.

[@JonFairhurst]

@@ImLeeLoi - I got the lowest cost M1 Pro with 32 GB, 2 TB, and the larger charger. My main use is music, including non-live composition and live performance many sample libraries. I need good processing for real-time effects, but this does not often use multi-core. (I can add more instances of my VST/AU host to use more cores, but this increases complexity greatly. I want to use as few cores as possible.) I was hoping to get 64 GB before the announcement, but that would have cost another $900 ($500 for the Max + $400 for memory.) Graphics are not stressed at all for music production and performance. Single core performance and memory size are the big items. I might do some video editing in the future, but the projects aren’t likely to be huge and I won’t be on deadline. If I have to use proxies and my render time is twice as long as the Max, it’s not a pain point. I went for the 14-inch screen for portability, cost, size on stage, and I can use an external monitor at home. The stronger cooling of the 16-inch version would have been nice. Noise is an issue for music production. If the fans kick on later or spin more slowly in the bigger laptop, it could be good. In general, I want to not push the computer too hard, so is stays quiet. If I need more power, adding a future Mac Mini Pro could make more sense for my usage. Two quiet computers beats one loud one.

[@JonFairhurst]

I think it’s what you *will* need over the next 3-5 years. I need 1 TB today. When performing live, it’s critical to have everything on the internal SSD. Some licenses require the content to be installed on the system drive. If the external drive is lost or damaged, it can kill the entire setup. While 1 TB is adequate today, I predict that I will exceed it within two years. Going for 2 TB is easy insurance. Sure, I could add a 1 TB SD card, but that costs $300, and it’s a headache to manage data. SD cards often fail. I first ordered a 1 TB MacBook Pro, but lost sleep with worry. The next day, I canceled the order, bought a 2 TB version, and I now sleep well. There’s a lesson. If you buy a version that makes you lose sleep, you probably bought the wrong version. 😴😴😴

[@ImLeeLoi]

@@JonFairhurst Some great points. It really depends on what you're doing. In video for actual work (not my YT videos) we're backing up to three different places and typically the Internal drive is never used so I'm sleeping easy with 1TB. I think as you mentioned buy the config that makes you sleep easy at night, you don't want to have anxiety over if you got enough RAM - that said it's important people understand what these upgrades add to your Computer rather than blindly upselling. Fingers crossed the MacBook Pro 14 inch is all that you need, I do prefer keeping all my files in one system. I got good with a workflow of having two computers but really yeah, it's much easier just having the one.

[@JonFairhurst]

@@ImLeeLoi - Yes, I was doing a video project recently where I used an external SSD as the fast-access, current project drive, and an external HD for backup and archive. This was in a home office. On the road, I might want a larger hard drive and an internal SD for short term back up. You could edit on a plane like that. Bring an external hard drive for longer term backup when you arrive at the hotel. The key is to understand your use case. Apple will make a lot of money selling M1 Max systems with 64 GB and 8 TB to people who just consume social media. 😉

[@ktms1188]

Or you are justifying your previous purchase and don’t want to spend the money on the large upgrade.

[@ImLeeLoi]

I’m selling both machines either way. I don’t need the upgrade in graphics based on my time with the M1 Mac Mini and being happy with current GPU performance. Your ultimately spending €3K, if you need the upgrade get the upgrade but if there was no value in M1 Pro Apple wouldn’t have offered it to begin with. They don’t even have a 14 inch configuration with M1 Max you can buy off the shelve. CPU performance is the same and that’s what I use most out of a Computer as video editing uses the decoder chip!!

[@nailsbykamin]

Hey great video i am planning to buy the 14' base level M1 pro i am hoping that the fans on these are an big improvement compared to the intels.

[@ImLeeLoi]

It won’t be the fans that make a big difference but rather the new processors run much cooler than the Intels. So your lap wont be on fire from the heat!

[@MattDo]

I got the same configuration as you. But yes, please use a proper mic thanks

[@ImLeeLoi]

Haha I have literally gone and bought a Zoom F2 so better audio is incoming. Hope you enjoy the new MacBook!

[@Dartchy]

I have a 2019 15in MacBook Pro with i9/16gb ram. Do you think it’s worth upgrading to the base 16in M1 Pro? Will there be much difference in performance?

[@ImLeeLoi]

Hard to say, if your Laptop is fine and you don't need to upgrade there's no need to upgrade. If you think work could be done faster with a faster machine then this will be much faster, even with the base M1 Pro. Just watch out at the 512GB storage. One things for sure; you won't be cooking an egg with your Laptop.

[@Dartchy]

@@ImLeeLoi Thanks for that. I mostly use Microsoft applications, Chrome and Google Earth, but have them open at the same time and my current i9 Pro struggles with it. And nothing irritates me more than the fan constantly being on and noisy yet still so hot. I was just a bit concerned perhaps the difference wouldn't be enough to justify the cost considering I'm just going for the base. But thanks for clearing it up for me!

[@ImLeeLoi]

@@Dartchy Feel free to take a look at Geekbench scores by googling Geekbench MacBook Pro to see the potential performance gains. M1 Pro is fine, it doesn't sound graphically intensive for you to get an M1 Max. Your new Mac should certainly be cooler!

[@Dartchy]

@The Spine and Brain Centre Mhm. Care to elaborate?

[@nxet2669]

What’s would you recommend for someone that keeps their laptops for 8+ plus year or until it shuts down it’s own? For programming n video editing? I want the 16” m1max 32gb 1tb ?

[@ImLeeLoi]

If that's what you want and you plan to keep it until it's last legs fall off that should be great. As long as your happy with 1TB of storage. Decide now with your work and lifestyle if in 8 years time that drive will be full up. Is a 16 inch M1 pro with 16GB of ram and 2TB better then? Up to you, if storage isn't an issue the config you picked is a fantastic one. And again, you want that bigger screen size. :)

[@nxet2669]

@@ImLeeLoi thank you for your help. that’s a good idea too but if I didn’t have an external drive I would go with that but my 2015 gives up after 6 year(it started running slowing lagging freezing it was the base model n it out of storage since then I decided I will added more extra spec to avoid that) if it wasn’t for that I wouldn’t have bought a new laptop and thank you for your help

[@photographiezautrement]

I will get the same configuration, for the same reasons :)

[@ImLeeLoi]

Fingers crossed we made the right call.

[@ilgaralizada7206]

Mini with 16gb of Ram is not enough?

[@ImLeeLoi]

The Mac mini is good but I did run out of ram on several occasions. I plan to sell the Mac Mini soon after I move everything to the new MacBook

[@ilgaralizada7206]

@@ImLeeLoi thank for your answer. What kind of mac can you suggest for Xcode development?

[@ImLeeLoi]

@@ilgaralizada7206 Interesting because that’s very different. 16GB of ram might not be an issue for Xcode because that’s more CPU intensive than System wide intense. Do you need a desktop or a portable, how big does the screen need to be. I’d let those decisions guide your purchase rather than raw performance although the new MacBook Pro chips do compile more code faster in XCode than the regular M1.

[@barceloni93]

Is mb16 m1 pro 16gb good enough for after effects?

[@ImLeeLoi]

I think if you have to ask, then it is perfect for your After Effects needs. You'd know if you needed more. That said AE is graphics intensive so the M1 Max would provide benefit but that is a lot of money and I'd only consider upgrading if you actually make money from working in After Effects. If it's just to mess around in AE as a hobbyist or enthusiast, I wouldn't spend extra.

[@panic0112]

I went with almost the same configuration (but 16' instead of 14') and for similar reasons. I mostly need the fast computer power and not the extra GPU cores. Since CPU power is the same, except for the bandwidth, I saved money and went with the M1 Pro. I'm not sure yet how the unified memory performance compares to traditional RAM, but I did find myself already pushing the limits on my 16GB RAM machine so I also decided 32GB would probably be a worthwhile investment. Even though an extra $400 for an extra 16GB seems ridiculously expensive. Hope we both made a wise decision!

[@ImLeeLoi]

And even then bandwidth is about memory width more than distance so it's not like double the bandwidth means 2x faster ram it means 2x more data can be pushed but that's a lot of data to push so much so you're a 64GB ram user at that point.

[@autofocus4556]

Who cares about Face ID? Is it that hard to scan your fingerprint? Lol

[@ImLeeLoi]

I love the fingerprint sensor. All I said is Face ID is coming because they gotta give you a reason to buy a new MacBook Pro next year / 2 years! ;)

[@autofocus4556]

@@ImLeeLoi but that’s not a good reason.

[@ImLeeLoi]

@@autofocus4556 That won't stop some people. Combined with faster processors and the typical increments made.