Why I'd Avoid This Spyderco Sharpening Stone - CBN VS DIAMOND -Spyderco CBN Benchstone Review

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[@scottbennington2936]

I remember when you would pull your lawn mower out, do the knife build. Get interrupted by the trash man. The lawn guy. The wind blowing. Finish build. Hack up a 2x4 with new build and /or run in the woods for a mini movie on jokers. Glad you have made it to the big leagues. Many here have learned so much from your time and teaching abilities. Godspeed Sir!

[@OUTDOORS55]

Awesome! Those were the days😂👍 Thanks for sticking around 🙏👊

[@lukearts2954]

Same here! I've not only learned techniques and interesting knife trivia, but this channel has also changed my views on several things. I love learning from masterful people. Somehow I appreciate the humbling feeling when a real expert shares their knowledge for us to build up our own.

[@NeevesKnives]

So I just have to be in denial and I can be on the channel 🙃

[@OUTDOORS55]

Lol you can be on the channel anytime my friend 👍

[@blainebickle1178]

what?

[@ryanwalker1825]

​@@blainebickle1178I understand you man what!?

[@fuzzynuttz5092]

Ayy two of my favorite sharpeners on youtube

[@robthompson8285]

Alex, Jerad and Metal Complex are the three bosses of the KZbin knife community

[@THSP31011]

I have missed the old place. But I have seen your old editing style coming back in your recent videos. Love seeing it. Use to be mostly funny, started getting more and more serious as you grew, and now a nice balance of serious when needed and still funny.

[@roger10coutinho]

I remember you kicking a tree and wondering if it was wood. Hahaha. Yes, the doors in the US are not made of paper!

[@heiner71]

@@roger10coutinho Only the walls are.

[@adfaklsdjf]

is this even wood?

[@breoganlopez3943]

Nice to see you upload content so frequently, thank you very much!!!

[@MrDwrench1]

Excellent review, as always. I believe early on I learned from you about double-sided diamond stones. Ended up with a couple of whet stones you were using at the time. It was your simple to follow techniques that really improved how I was sharpening. Your search for quality sharpening stones is a bonus to me. Thanks.

[@jeffrdnck7973]

You have some of the best content on KZbin period! With your sage advice I now know what a hair splitting edge truly is. I thank you sir!

[@AYellowPepper]

The shed is a definetly vibe! But your new stuff keeps getting better!

[@ronaldtubbs9674]

You are rocking man. Wish I’d known you five or six years ago. It’s never too late to learn something and catch up. That’s exactly what I’m doing. Thanks man.

[@jeffallen3382]

Goodbye shed... we will miss you. 😭😭😭😭

[@dodobird4155]

Remember watching old video about that stone, its really nice that u want to find new, better things, and you show best options you can find.

[@glockgaston2922]

Alex really good video and thanks for the heads up on this stone it’s much appreciated!!

[@DconBlueZ]

Thanks for the video, I usually learn something and always enjoy watching!

[@raydurni1175]

Another awesome video. Nice to see the shed for the last time...

[@FreedomFox1]

When you said “for good” at the end, it was expecting the shed to blow up or something.

[@andrewzach1921]

Nice bit of nostalgia with the old shop but i dont miss it. Always enjoy your videos.

[@ironhead65]

I think I want to disagree between diamond and CBN just to meet you! Thanks for the video, I love this new format and everything you’re doing. It’s really helping me understand really, what happens instead of all the hocum and crazy behind-the-scenes magic that you typically get from people when they tell you how great something is for sharpening. When they really mean, it’s really great for the exact situation they are using it for in the exact way they are using it, and they lead you Intentionally or not in the wrong direction

[@user-vs5xx2gu5l]

Brilliant videos ❤ can't seem to get enough of your videos so I watched same ones like 20 times

[@OUTDOORS55]

Thanks really appreciate it🙏👊

[@Ve-suvius]

Excellent video, as always. You always deliver . Interesting and important note on the double sided stone being nearly always contaminated with larger grit.

[@ickdforce]

Dude ur killing it lately with the content. Keep it up 👍

[@OUTDOORS55]

Thanks I appreciate it 🙏

[@Norman_Fleming]

Love the short and educational videos.

[@MrJohney]

I miss the shed videos but I'm happy to see you in the new shop

[@ryewaldman2214]

The spyderco double stuff 2 with the CBN coarse side and the ceramic fine side is much more high value as far as spyderco sharpening stones are concerned. The CBN (like diamond) let's you sharpen even the s110v blurple and gray maxament knives, while having a usable ceramic hone on the back side. I also really like how they beveled and rounded the edges of the stone so you can access serrations, recurved edges, etc. Very handy little multipurpose sharpening stone when you want something pocket sized to throw in a bag or took kit. As far as dual-sided plates go, I'm 2 for 3 with the DMT diasharp double sided stones. I have a coarse/x-coarse stone and a fine/x-fine stone that don't suffer from awful grit contamination; however, i did get a fine/x-fine stone that DID have terrible grit contamination on the x-fine side. I have had really excellent results from dual-sided venev diamond waterstones. These are better because rather than plating single layer of diamond on a metal substrate, there is about 2mm of a diamond-impregnated matrix. The matrix is then bonded to a center plate. In this case, since the two grit sizes are formed separately, there isn't a problem with cross-contamination. These venev diamond stones really cut rapidly and leave much more refined edges than you'd expected from their grit rating and cutting speed. I think they really are the best sharpening stones I've ever used.

[@fuzzynuttz5092]

I recently got the hapstone premium metallic bonded cbn stones and they're pretty good stuff as well

[@DanialY-qm6xt]

Jsyk, do NOT get the Venev resin-bonded CBN stones. They have absolutely terrible QC.

[@filipefaria898]

Great video as usual! Thanks for doing this! Do you have any video about veneev stones? Have a great weekend my friend

[@danpost4755]

Wow. Thanks for the breakdown, Alex.

[@brianlawson3757]

Last year I bought a Spyderco fine, double-sided stone that I think they discontinued. I think you reviewed it some time back and I happened to snag one before they were dropped from Amazon and it's worked for me so much so that I don't bother with my composite stones anymore. They're too messy and always need flattening, which is a pain.

[@user-lv6jw9ho8l]

Off-topic question: Sharpened knives and the dishwasher myth, do they become blunt faster? Additional information, you have recently had at least one fan from Bavaria! Great videos, good mix of theory, practice and humor! I'm looking forward to your future videos. Thank you very much

[@Heracleetus]

In my experience it's true, but it's an excellent idea for a video 👍

[@otobotrecords]

Well in my case it's Franconia. Where is Bavaria located again? 😅

[@uponeric36]

The real issue with sharpened knives and the dishwasher is that they don't need it, and water isn't safe for all steels and handles. It's a stupid risk when the right solution is the sink a few feet a way and half a minute of hot water - not to mention a waste of time and dishwasher space when no knife is so dirty to need one! Unlike a plate, a chef knife doesn't often get covered in dried spaghetti sauce.

[@Cid_1]

I think the best "dual side dual grit" plates. Are if you buy an Atoma plate, and an Atoma replacement sheet in a different grit and put the replacement sheet on the back of the clean Aluminium plate.

[@MrHirschkeule]

Just wanted to write the same :D Works fine for me too.

[@Vulpes175]

Thanks for another video!

[@nrh7ten892]

ordered the s satc 400/1000 and the dmt 1000 last week, been using a guided system past year and really miss free hand sharpening. wasn't sure which stones to get until watched one of your recent videos since there are so many different diamond stones and different reviews on them. thank you

[@sniggleboots]

Hey Alex! Love the channel, it got into my youtube algorithm a few weeks ago and I've learnt a lot. Recently I ordered that cheap 400/1000 diamond stone you mention in this video, but Amazon screwed up and I got a set of 400/600/800/1000/1200 plates instead. At first I thought I was in luck, more grit sizes and none of the grit contamination! But obviously these plates are fairly thin and don't have any "weight" to them at all. Do they stay straight? Would love to hear your thoughts on this. Keep up the great content!

[@grumpyuncle.]

Good info. Thanks!

[@Keith_the_knife_freak]

Thanks for. Sharing. And a trip down memory lane

[@freedomlifemake2579]

I have the Fallkniven DC521 and I love it. I think its the best for a 1 stone setup

[@Blakes123]

Thank you Alex my spyderco tenacious arrived today loving it thank you for the recommendation

[@OUTDOORS55]

I've been carrying my 14 year old one as of late👍

[@Blakes123]

@@OUTDOORS55 I got my in m4 as my first ever super steel.

[@OUTDOORS55]

Tempted by that one myself 👍😂

[@bryceborcovsky8979]

I would expect better from SPYDERCO as I own a ceramic stone from SPYDERCO and it is very good no issues with it at all. Clearly they have dropped the standards with this one. Great work on the review of this stone.

[@MikeyD8716]

Thanks to your tips I’ve become pretty good at freehand sharpening. I just sharpened a Bugout to Scary Sharp. I’d like to get a larger extra coarse Diamond stone but I’m getting nasty with the tools I do have. It’s a fun hobby.

[@bumblebee2989]

What do you think of the Spyderco ceramic stones? I have a medium grit and feel that it works as a quick hone to minimize the burr after a coarse diamond stone. I'd love to see your thoughts on the different grit spyderco ceramic stones.

[@adrianallen7984]

Good video. Surprised at that actually considering it's spyderco. Btw, why did you stop using the spyderco ceramic stones? Thanks!

[@raincoast9010]

Nice close up pictures, thanks.

[@lasserrejeanmarie736]

hello and thank you for your great videos. I am French and I use spyderco ceramic stones (the 3 grits: medium, fine and ultra fine) (for the mirror polish I have a Nahiwa 12000). did you use these stones? I have never used a diamond stone, do you think a diamond stone would be a good addition to roughing up the work? Thank you and see you soon for new videos. Jimmy.

[@richardjones452]

Could be worth another look into the STSC diamond double sided stone. Got one recently and I think they have greatly improved the fine side since you got yours. I find the scratch pattern easily finer than the coarse. They have now put a silly plastic frame around it mind but it didn’t cause any issue

[@powerofyes]

RIP old shed

[@saintofchelseathomascarlyl5713]

addicting videos and its actually a good tradeoff to have more videos in exchange for no shed

[@BlueWingedRino]

I like the Spyderco extra fine ceramic stone. For deburring it is excellent as you can feel the burr tear off.

[@jarrettmoreland4921]

i really like this stone as well.

[@TheDenimal]

By any chance, do have the fällkniven small sharpening stones for review? I use dc3, wondering for dc4, or cc4. I know they are small stones, but I'm watching your videos and find them really informative.

[@edcgearpocketknife]

So glad you made this video your paining for the name brand

[@stuartdavenport2952]

Thanks for that video. Along the same exact line, would you mind doing a video on the DMT 1200 mesh stone, the Extra Fine Green? I bought one years ago and it felt like it was a lot coarser than a slightly worn in 600 mesh fine. Grit contamination, I do believe. I sent the stone back to DMT and they replaced it, only to have the same issue. Grit contamination. This is after a break in period. The stones I am referencing are the DiaSharp line, not the DuoSharp. I don't think it matters, but just for clarification. If there is a way you can get your hands on a 1200 mesh 8" DiaSharp DMT stone, I would love your opinion, and the microscope shots, to back it up. Even the DMT Extra Extra fine, their 3 micron stone, feels a lot coarser than 3 micron, and like you mentioned in another video, I don't really care for that stone either. It feels weird. I guess there is difficulty making finer and finer diamond plates. The coarse stones work great. The 600 mesh Fine stone is excellent. I feel problems start with the 1200 EF. However, the Atoma 1200 is amazing.

[@twatmunro]

There are a couple of sharpening channels I watch consistently. Japanese Knife Imports is great on the process of freehand sharpening kitchen knives. But this guy rules when it comes to all the other stuff. And he's so likeable too.

[@Hvac.tools_]

Dam! Picture quality is amazing! even the video quality!

[@nathanielFalck]

Wonder whether the DMT duosharp fine/course might be a good alternative as well. Believe each side is manufactured separately and then laminated to the plastic core, and so shouldn't be any opportunity for contamination. Not that it saves you a bunch of money, still about $100, but it does come with a nice base.

[@1947froggy]

So what causes a stone to be grit or not grit contaminated? What makes it susceptible to contamination? How does it resist contamination? Any way to clean it?

[@LtKwasretaken]

Are diamond and CBN stropping compounds also comparable to each other? Thanks for the videos.

[@OUTDOORS55]

Yes 👍

[@DanialY-qm6xt]

I've had slightly better finishing/polishing with CBN compounds but just barely.

[@joeyliao8937]

A couple of years ago I bought the Spyderco Golden Stone sharpener (the one that looks like a duck foot). I had bad results sharpening my knives as the blade kept on getting caught on one part of the stone. I ended up buying a cheap diamond plate to grind down the Spyderco stone which revealed a very wavy surface with a couple of nubs right in the middle of the sharpening flat (on both sides). The seams on the edges also stood proud of the flats until I ground them down. I think Spyderco needs to source from better vendors or do some QC to make sure the other products sold under their brand are as good as the knives they sell.

[@solarsynapse]

I would like to see a close up of a knife that is laser sharpened. I worked with a guy that had a knife that was done and it seemed good to me. I am curious how smooth it would be and if the heat adversely affected the metal.

[@Huey4214]

Just bought a ultrasharp combi stone with a holder for much less and just love it.

[@TheDuffinator]

Can you demo how to sharpen a recurve or even kukri style blade on a DMT diamond stone? I have difficulty on the inside curves.

[@Guitcad1]

Hi. New subscriber here. I was wondering what sort of microscope you're using for your closeups of the cutting edges and stone surfaces. I've got regular tabletop microscope like a person would use to view microbes on glass slides, but of course, those offer little in the way of depth. It essentially only focuses on a very thin 2-dimensional slice of whatever your viewing. Not much use when looking at the cutting edge of a knife.

[@_BLANK_BLANK]

The husky dual sided stone seems to be ok, on the fine side. But i think its because its two separate plates attached to a plastic base thing. I just got it at home depot because it was cheap, and figured it was worth a shot. And really its not bad.

[@lukearts2954]

I feel honored =) Usually when comments are shouted out in a video, it's to make fun of them or to debunk them (justifiably so), here it's to indulge us ♥ Thanks!

[@lukearts2954]

(of course, when I referred to the old shack videos, I didn't necessarily refer to the actual setting, but I was praising the young energy that you had put into those videos back in the olden days... Of course, times change, channels grow, styles evolve, and I'm turning slowly into a grumpy ol' bum. So we'll let go of our nostalgia and embrace whatever you have in store for us ☺)

[@Phrish]

Any advice/tips for sharpening a convex blade (e.g. Fallkniven)? Or would you just reprofile to a flat grind?

[@PerilousPaddy]

Have you ever done a review of the DC3 an DC4 mini stones from Fallkniven? If so what did you think and if not then what do you think about them?

[@JackShen]

what do you think of the falkniven DC521 benchstone? That in combination with a strop is my 'lazy' Sharpening process. When I want to get fancy I have the shapton G7 glass stone kit, I picked up the extra 1500 and 5000 G7's since the kit has big jumps between grits. The kit has a stand and a diamond flattening stone. So the process is 600, 1500, 2500, Strop, 5000, and then 30,000. The kit was about the same price as a single glass 30,000 stone.

[@smokepole14]

You should review the fallkniven dc4 its a ceramic/diamond stone that’s fairly cheap.

[@bladelx9424]

hey, im trying to get into knife making but i was wondering what processes you used to design your knife blanks.

[@Taegashi]

I don't mind the old shed, but I really like the new set up.

[@-fazik-3713]

Thank You!

[@joeynanez9897]

Great info God bless

[@ssjbrickman]

can you test out the trend diamond ? i got one and im really enjoying it

[@Obsidian-One]

I have the dual sided DMT stones & they are the same way. The coarse/ extra coarse is fine but the fine/extra fine definitely has contamination on the extra fine side, like larger micron than the fine side...?

[@drewrinker2071]

Atoma is really good for the money to, very consistent. I only own a handful of epoxy bond stones but it kinda seems like for me anyhow I'm going through a regular diamond stone every 6 months but I do a lot of sharpening so I'm slowly replacing my grits with epoxy bonded

[@robohippy]

CBN was developed specifically for sharpening high speed steel, which is what all of my wood lathe tools are made from. Diamond does not work on grinders because the heat destroys them. I do have a couple of CBN slip stones in my shop, even one that is double sided. They are far higher quality than the one you show. Mine came from D Way tools up in Washington. They can be made to any quality, the manufacturers just have to know what your demands are...... I do have diamond for all of my flat work tools.... chisels and bench planes.

[@OUTDOORS55]

It was developed for high speed/ high heat applications. Which isnt an issue with hand sharpening.

[@RonaldZaZ]

In your last video you told us you can get crazy sharp with a coarse stone and a strop. So why bother with fine stones then? What's the benefit of a refined edge?

[@OUTDOORS55]

It depends on what you are cutting. Coarse edges don't work well for everybody. Shaving for instance isn't very comfortable with a 400 grit edge 🙂

[@webderek]

Have you tried the coarser grit diamond compounds on a strop? I see there’s a 400 grit diamond compound available. Would that be able to rebevel an edge without creating a burr? Maybe if it was embedded in a wax base? Then we could skip the finer strop.

[@gmofftarki]

SSATC appears to be the same as some of the stones from other brands on Amazon, and the SSATC's delivery date is fairly far out (not through Prime). I would be interested in seeing a comparison between it and one of the identical-appearing brands (the one that shows up most easily right now is a company called Jewboer, which offers a 4 or 5 piece set of diamond stones for ~20 dollars, which appears to have the same hexagonal layout and font on the grit marker). As an update to my last comment about the DMT duo-sharp 2-sided thing I bought... it seems to cut differently going towards the sticker than it does going away from it. Are these things in fact directional? Did I damage my stone somehow (bending the steel mesh on which the abrasive is applied)? In line with your advice from this video, I think I'm just going to stick to the coarse side of thig, assuming I don't just replace it with something more normal.

[@paulkresky1465]

Thanks for saving us money. Was on the fence about this one, as I really love their ceramic stones. But now I am even more confused. About 10 years or more ago, there were so-called cbn sharpening stones sold at gun and knife shows. They looked like dark black colored aluminum oxide stones, but they stunk to high heaven, and they were very oily. I had a couple labeled under the gun name Winchester. Boy, did they aggressively sharpen fast. They smelled like a tire yard fire. And they were very heavy for their size. They were not metal plates. The package said made in Japan on it. I got talked into swapping them with another maker, collector, restorer. I have never seen another one. I know Smoky Mountain Knofe Works sold them. Wonder if anyone knows anything about those? Mine were about 3 " by 2" by maybe 1/2 inch thick. It never listed a grit rating. Felt smooth, but super aggressive.

[@OUTDOORS55]

Hmm interesting! If you find them let me know!

[@paulkresky1465]

​@OUTDOORS55 I will, Alex. This video sparked my memory of them. Perhaps I can find something on the internet. If I do, I can respond either here, or an email address for you. Paul

[@paulkresky1465]

​@OUTDOORS55 Alex, I found the info! I remembered the gun company wrong. It was Colt. The name of it was Colt C-BNX7, cubic boron nitride sharpening stone. Size was 4" × 2" × 1/2". It was not a bonded metal plate. Amazon still has a picture of one up with the specs. It had about 5 reviews or so, by people saying it was the best stone they ever used. Just needed a bigger one. One review I read was from 2016, if I remember correct. I could not find one for sale on either ebay or amazon. If I did, I was going to try and email you the link. There may still be one out there. I remember my blister packs they came in were bright blue. I agree. They were too small, and really smelly, but one of the best pocket stones I ever owned. I bet the knife forums discuss these. I'm gonna check them myself. Hope you see this Alex. Have a great nite, and thanks for your videos. (I too miss the shed! 😢😂)

[@Heracleetus]

I researched the heck outta systems before settling on the $90 Spyderco sharpmaker with CBN rods. I can't get a good edge on anything and it absolutely destroys the point on every blade you run through it. It also has some defects/bumps on the surface that will blunt your edge. The plastic holder also broke on the very first use of the system now I can't use the scissor sharpening part of it. Oh, and it loads up and clogs so fast I can barely get through one knife before it clogs. Before the sharpmaker I always just freehanded on cheap Norton stones and got way better results.

[@DanialY-qm6xt]

I think your technique might be wrong

[@Heracleetus]

@@DanialY-qm6xt I'm definitely open to that possibility (I also wonder if I might have gotten a knockoff). I watched the sharpmaker video like 4 times before even buying the thing. I tried using the lower angle slots first to reduce the shoulders or give it a secondary bevel or whatever they called it... Didn't really help. The most success I've had with it is freehanding with the rod but that's really unsafe. I've also noticed I get a better edge if, instead of keeping the blade 90 degrees to the ground, I rotate the blade a few degrees away from the rod (thus increasing the angle above 20 degrees)

[@Chitario]

Unrelated question, but this seems to be the perfect place to ask it. I just sharpened my Gyuto kitchen knife on a shapton 1k, did the forward strokes, 10 each side, alternating, to remove the burr. Stropped on some green compound. It is quite scary sharp, but shaving arm hair works much better when i hold it in my left hand. Hair is just jumping off. When holding it in the right hand and shaving my left arm it kinda works, but not nearly as nice as the other way around. Is this a burr issue?

[@WvMnts]

Thanks

[@TheJaredBealer]

Where can we get your temperature controlled heat treating oven?

[@imanassole9421]

Question.. so I collect knives.. I have my whole life. (Yes, I barely use them.) Just recently got back into it. Sharpening is something I just haven't got down yet.. and I'm a bit scared to do it with knives in my collection. I bought a cheap whet stone set, then a worksharp guided FS, also a Falkniven d4 for travel. What would be the best way for me to practice hand Sharpening? Should I just use a dirt cheap kitchen knife? Or actually get a decent blade practice on? Something to sharpen, beat up, then sharpen again solely just to practice. As is, I can get a cutting edge on a blade.. but I'd like to be able to get a (comfortable) shaving sharp edge. Like scary sharp.. is my goal.

[@drewbyhans7756]

i got a quick question for you: Do you think grit contamination can happen on one order of the stone but not another? Such as a "batch" of them are contaminated?

[@chaosgamerhd7407]

hey, whats you opinion on the Tormek T1?

[@23lkjdfjsdlfj]

Help! How do I sharpen a long brisket blade? Rather, is it possible to use a Shapton 1000 stone? It just doesn't seem wide enough. I'm guessing I shouldn't sharpen the blade in pieces or it won't line up?

[@RAlblooshi]

How about the double sided venev diamond stone you have to try one

[@logankelly2793]

I have just bought ssatc the first time ice used it I can't get it to whittl free hair but I can kind of get it to whittle while the hair is against my finger but only like 1/8 to a 16th long then it stops. Is it because it's not been broke in?

[@Lon1001]

I've read that CBN might be good for lapping stones to flatten dished out whetstones? Or should I just stick with diamond for that purpose?

[@OUTDOORS55]

Either Or works just the same

[@abrahamkalichman6845]

I would really like to see your explaination or facts on all of the diamond and cbn types of products. Their differences in terms of particular effectivness as well as durability. And why. Oh! I forgot the actual cutting feel of each product. Whether the apex is perfect and burr completdly removed. On all of the various metals that you have so exoertly examined.

[@OUTDOORS55]

There's really not much to go over to be honest. Its not that complicated of a topic. For freehand sharpening there no difference other than the difference grits which should be pretty obvious. Plating quality and grit consistency is the most important. There are different types of diamond as well polycrystalline vs monocrystalline. But it can be very difficult for the average user to tell a difference without already knowing what they are using.

[@abrahamkalichman6845]

Are you telling me that the ultimate durability of the abrasive is not really evident, to most sharpeners. I would have to disagree with your evaluation. In terms of the plating degree of quality would be very important as well as concentration level. This is why all metal played abrasives have a very low level of long term effectiveness. Should never be part of a semi professional or professional work place. ALL ARE VERY POOR FOR Consistent Quality function and well as consistent durability.

[@DanialY-qm6xt]

​@abrahamkalichman6845 knife sharpening is not a machine shop. Plated stones are fine because of the lack of high speed or heat. It'll wear orders of magnitude more slowly than when they're used for machining.

[@abrahamkalichman6845]

Sorry to inform you, but there are more efficient ways to use quality diamonds than a metal plate as a base. First, is that the mono diamond that is used in these plates are very poor in effectiveness vs a poly diamond. The action of the blade across the diamond plate lops off the diamond particles similar to a sheet of sandpaper. Making the plate very poor in its effectiveness. There are other methods that will accept all quality diamonds for a better effective and durable solution. Paste is obvious, as well as emulsions .I'm sure there are slurries as well. This has nothing to do with high speed machining. poly diamond is much more effective but is weak as a body. Mono diamond is stronger but less effective. Especially when it is broken off on every stroke, where the diamonds are adhered to the bed of the plate, without movement. So

[@frankymoreno8935]

You can't see me 😂 love you're channel man.

[@EdgeStoneKnives]

Where I notice a big difference with CBN over diamond is the scratch pattern. At equal grits, the CBN scratch pattern is much more muted and attractive. CBN also seems to cut a bit faster due to its structure and having more facets--the same quality that gives it a nicer scratch pattern. It cuts wide and shallow instead of deep and narrow like diamond. But you're right, zero difference in end sharpness and utility of the edge. Thx for the video!

[@OUTDOORS55]

Thats the thought. In reality I can't tell a difference between pictures at 1 micron between the two. Or any difference when sharpening or in use. 👍

[@thorwaldjohanson2526]

I think the differences are small but there. The structure of the abrasive has an impact. But there is probably just as much difference between different diamond and different cbn stones. The contaminated fine side is a good example, the result depends on several factors such as grain uniformity, grain shape, density etc. But for both materials, the hardness itself is not a significant factor.

[@CraigLuna]

The resin bonded diamond stones have an amazing finish.Definitely not as fast as cbn or plated diamond stones

[@CSGraves]

This makes me glad I went the DMT plate route instead!

[@ianbaker4295]

Now that we have the old shop back, I miss your neighbor's lawnmower interruptions.

[@DanialY-qm6xt]

What plated stones do you prefer? I've heard especially negative things about DMT's stones, especially when you get to the finer grits.

[@OUTDOORS55]

The sharpal seems to be legit 👍

[@marcinmerrimack1726]

Why wasn’t your recommendation for a second stone the Shapton 1000 instead of the DMT fine?

[@hungrymanfromhungrylandent9122]

I've got a norton india oil stone 320-120 grit and i heard india oil stones leave a more durable edge is this true I've also got a king stone 1000-6000 Steel series 240-800 whetstone A few natural stones that leave the most insane edges I've ever done on knives so far

[@gedfi]

I was very happy with my DMT fine/extra fine. Until today. Now I need to get me a macro lens setup to check if I have contamination on the x-fine side. This might be the most expensive KZbin video I've watched for a long time. Wait, I could just dump it and get two separate stones? Or perhaps the current stone works, and that should be good enough?

[@DanialY-qm6xt]

I had the same issue with my EF stones too. Scienceofsharp posted an article about coarse particle contamination on DMT's finer stones. Used a SEM to show the particles too. Super disappointing.

[@aaronsholly9826]

Is a marble whetstone any good?

[@torfinnjohnsrud793]

Does this apply to single sided DMT plates? I have 4 of the 8x3...

[@Qballl]

I just went to get the s satc diamond stone you've mentioned before, and it's currently unavailable. Do you, by chance, have another stone like that you can recommend?

[@nickwulf]

Thoughts on Spyderco Sharpmakkkkkkkkkker?

[@chrishynes6091]

QUESTION Can Flitz metal polish be used as a stropping compound??

[@DanialY-qm6xt]

I tried it once just to see and yes it worked but not very well

[@chrishynes6091]

@@DanialY-qm6xt Thanks. I have that on hand, but I should get some of the good stuff.