Why I Decided to Ditch My Outdoor Woodburner

[@norbertfreitel5358]

Your losing alot of Btus from the uninsulated parts of tubing, Plus your wood is soaked in snow and rain, need to burn alot to dry it, also cut and split your wood a year ahead to let it season before use. Cover the pile with tarps or build a leantoo over the pile and splitter. Upgrade to a quality name boiler, like Central Boiler.

[@farmerboybill]

Buying wood or scavenging for wood any distance greatly changes the economics of burning wood. My farm has 100 acres of woods. I am constantly cutting trees for fenceline maintenance, field road maintenance, field edge maintenance, etc. I burn box elder, quaking aspen, mulberry, black walnut, burr oak, pin oak, shagbark hickory, black locust, honey locust, buckthorn, basically anything that will make an ash. Based on this, burning wood is close to free for me because I own a chainsaw and cut regardless of if I burn it or dump it in a ditch. I bought a wood gasifier that shuts down when the 1929 farm house doesn't call for it. On warmer days, it might only cycle on once or twice to maintain 180 degrees. If you looked in the door, you'd be sure it had went out. When it kicks in, it's roaring in minutes. Out of 10-12 cord, I make maybe 2 wheelbarrows of ash a year. I wouldn't give up my OWB for anything. I would also like to eventually install a stove in the house as well. Both have their advantages and disadvantages.

[@hubster4477]

10-12 cords of wood a year? Damn that is too much wood to deal with just for one year. If everybody had one of those there'd be no trees left in no time.

[@guytremblay1647]

@@hubster4477 if you burn 12 cords of wood in a year in Michigan with an outdoor wood burner than your not winning anytime . The general temperatures hthere are normally in the minus 8 to 12 . i live in the north of quebec were average temperatures during winter are -25 with a two weeks cold period of -35to -40 and a second one in march some years . I have never heard of anyone burning more than 15 cords a year with an indoor wood stove si if you ask me this outdoor burner is not at all a win case for the region you live in

[@ihus9950]

I think you should buy a more efficient outdoor wood burner boiler, move it closer to the house with insulated piping! It would be more cost effective!👍 And much cheaper to operate! 👍

[@AATreeService]

I have the same boiler. It is extremely efficient for being a standard conventional. His water lines are what’s wrong. Un insulated lines can use up to 5 cord a winter more than good lines

[@Farmall4ever]

I have a Drolet fireplace insert with a blower, and am very happy. Put it in last fall and used half as much wood to heat out 1600 sf ranch . I think your making the correct decision based on your longterm goals/timeframe

[@mtadams2009]

I have never heard of burning 25 cords of wood, that is crazy town. My friends in Northern Vt. burn no more than 12 which to me is also crazy. I burn about 4 to 5 with my indoor stove. I would get rid of that piece of crap now and never look back.

[@justinfiorini3142]

He uses it for all kinds of things, he said.

[@tajon5394]

Scott Gibson he’s got to be talking face cords. Even then that’s too much.

[@mtadams2009]

@@tajon5394 You may be correct. I find cutting and moving 4 to 5 cord enough, then again I have been doing this for very long time. Take care

[@SSLFamilyDad]

Yes, face cords. I should have specified I am just used to using that as the common term for face cord. Normally if referring to a full cord we say "full cord"

[@mtadams2009]

@@SSLFamilyDad Thanks for the update.

[@One_Crazy_Dog_Mum]

We use an inside wood heater here in Australia, we don’t have outdoor units available to us. We live on 14 acres of natural bush and plenty of wood on the ground to use, we have only just installed our unit and it’s the best investment we’ve ever made and beautiful to look at.

[@TwostrokePuchwizard]

You will be happy with it inside ... going from 25-30 cords to less than 10 just a little more messy

[@prhanson]

Where do all you c razy people live that you are burning 10 cords a year in a woodstove or 25 in an outdoor furnace??? I use 2-3 year in my woodstove to do my whole house, live in Canada, regularly -10 to -30 celsius. Anyone I know with an outdoor furnace never burn more than 10 cords a year, top end.

[@mercoldswfo]

@@prhanson I think they mean to say face cord, not cord

[@jameslocke5498]

Everybody's situation is different. I've found a combination of a pellet stove, oil hot water baseboard heat, and an electric on-demand hot water system to be the best course of action for our home. I use the pellet stove mostly in the spring, fall and on sunny winter days. The oil burner is mostly on in the dead of winter mostly at night. I switch it off in the spring summer and early fall since I use the on-demand hot water heater exclusively. Between the pellets (about 100 bags) and the cost of the oil and electric my energy cost average about 1800 dollars a year. for heat. I have been using this combo since 2010, one of the benefits is that the appliances are not overly stressed since the boiler is off almost six months of the year and the pellet stove is used primarily in the fall and spring. The pellet stove is easy to clean and requires no wood chopping or wood drying and hauling. Also, I believe insurance cost should be lower because it requires only a horizontal exhaust pipe and efficient models burn the pellets so completely creosote isn't a major problem cleaning with a good shop vac. is all that it really takes. Good luck and stay warm.

[@zaleonia]

As a teenager I lived in a 2 story house that was heated by a wood stove. The bedroom farthest from the stairs required a space heater to stay warm. I've been told that vents in the floor of the second story (or ceiling of the first story) help with heat distribution.

[@lechatbotte.]

many of your concerns have been mine, stuck with indoor wood stove. Happy that I have. I have one in my basement and can keep my home very comfortable with it. Need to upgrade to a better stove though.

[@hayesunified3670]

I switched from a wood furnace to a nice efficient drolet ht2000 with reburn tech. Went from 8-9 cords to 4. And, we get the ambiance of a wood stove in our main room. Will never go back. A suggestion, you seen handy. You can buy through the wall/ceiling kits for 300-400 and additional double/triple pipe can be purchased new or used and easily installed. It’s a DIY job for sure

[@bradw.5991]

Comments from your other post- Here is my opinion: Move the Wood Boiler next to the house and eliminate the 100-150 foot water lines, where as now you can have insulated lines installed for way less money, or even do it yourself. Next, your furnace is way outdated, but doesn't really matter if your just using the blower motor to circulate air. I would highly recommend a ECM Blower motor replacement, It will cost you around $400-$500 installed, or you can install it yourself for about $250 (ECM motors are energy efficient motors made to run long amounts of time). Also, get rid of that 1" air filter and cut the duct work open to fit in a 4"-5" filter. You will get much more airflow and more air filtration. Next thing which is optional, you have a boiler with only 1 heating radiator at the furnace. Install some baseboard radiators in the basement or around the house in places you don't need a thermostat or care if it gets to hot (put them in an unfinished basement and the heat will radiate up thru the house floors to keep it warm and keep the furnace blower from running excessively on thermostat). Doing all of this will more than likely cut your wood supply in half. Info about me: I am an HVAC Service tech, worked on many of these boilers, and never seen anybody use that amount of wood except when they heat the house, barn, and other fixtures from 1 boiler. About your indoor wood stove: don't forget that when the exhaust air is vented thru the chimney, your stove requires outside air to replace lost indoor air, and now you have to have a combustion air intake, and the air coming into your house will be cold and will need to be heated also. This why most wood fireplaces and stoves are not energy efficient, unless they have their own combustion air intakes.

[@willowknollhomestead206]

If the wood boiler isn’t efficient it’s got to go to the greenhouse. Just make sure the boiler lines are better insulated at the greenhouse otherwise you just moved your headache. One thing I like about wood boilers is the mess stays outdoors. I hate the dirt that comes into the house. I know you want to be sustainable but if you save all your future wood on your land for the greenhouse did you consider burning pellets?

[@ltsmith12]

I notice your Army PT top...I had a feeling you were prior military...am I correct? If so, thank you for your service! I retired from the Army a few years ago and the last few years in were filled with dreams of homesteading and living "away from it all". Your videos are amazing: down to earth and encouraging. Thank you so very much. God Bless!

[@SSLFamilyDad]

Yes sir, Army, support for 173rd airborne in Italy

[@jbirdnut]

I saw your Instagram post with the stove. If you didn't purchase it yet I would highly recommend Harman. I'm going on my 4th year with my tl2.0 up here in new England and no other heating option. Last winter I only burnt 3.5 cords in my 1600sq ft home the cleanest burning stove I've ever used.

[@ourmidwestlife]

I went to geothermal wells and love it. I am not off the grid by any means. But love the heat and crisp AC! I grew up in an old house with little to no insulation. My Dad heated the house with a Timberline wood stove In the basement. It worked well, the floors were always blazing hot. But the dust and dry heat didn’t work for me well.

[@salmonhunter7414]

We build a water tank in our wood stove and put a pump on it. The only set back was when the power is out the water would boil. So we had a generator so the pump and some other stuff still worked. This was hooked up to the old steam radiators. We add x amount of rads, so when the stove was full blast the water would not boil . Worked for 40 years.

[@jamesshanks2614]

I didn't realize you didn't have insulated lines underground. That can cost you up to 35 percent heat loss. Alternative heating has the pex lines you want to use. They also can show you how to heat your domestic hot water properly. I know it will be expensive but buy a portage and main outdoor boiler model 28-40. It uses considerably less wood than what you have and will heat your house, barn,

[@randyjerrett3062]

I'm going through the same process, you're doing the right thing in my opinion, I'm going with epa drolet ht 20000 ,getting rid of my outside boiler

[@YoungbloodFamilyFarm]

I think you are on the right track. Do not buy a TSC or Menards stove. In my home I burn with a Lopi Republic 1750. I heat 1800 sq ft with less than 3 cords. As for Syrup production I have started using a small DYI Reverse Osmosis System to save wood and time. I finished 12.5 gallons using only a Rick of soft maple. Since a lot of your sap is from Soft Maples this would be helpful. You can see clips on both of these on my channel. As for you thermal mass system, I think this is a fine idea, have you seen the Garn stove? A few IBC totes would work well, take care, you are on the right track.

[@solarbrianyvonne]

My wife loves our indoor wood cook stove, and I love the food she cooks on it! Good thing I have to cut wood in the winter to keep fit or I would have to get a gym membership LOL We moved off-grid about 8 years ago and have all the heat and hot water we could possibly need. Hope you guys move that direction too. ( farming unplugged)

[@sheepseven7588]

Hi where do you get your hot water please???

[@solarbrianyvonne]

@@sheepseven7588 we use a glycol solar system with an electrical booster that uses the excess electricity form our photovoltaic system and on the really cold cloudy days we have a small heat exchanger on the back of the wood cook stove. All 3 systems work in tandem with one another. Our homestead tour video will explain everything if you need more detail.

[@stewartalbert3523]

Economy and effiency are the watchwords . 70 years ago i cut wood with a crosscut and ax to heat old drafty farmhouses in central Ohio . Wood ain't cheap ! Money and sweat both are costs to consider !

[@emeryviau5069]

You are so right alter wood furnaces burn a lot of wood ice was the biggest dealer in the Midwest they are a waste of money and take care of it and you will be happy

[@marklepage9898]

We have used inside woodstove for 40 years electric water heater for summer and oil forced hot water in winter we burn 4 to 5 cords of wood here in Maine

[@BrendaBodwin]

If you run short on wood.. go to the forestry service... Buy a tag, I think it's around $6 for a load, or $30 for a month of cutting, and you can haul any size trailer and fill it as part of that load. ( Prices may have changed, but, wouldn't be much different) You go on state land and cut all you can carry in a load. You can only cut the down timber, nothing standing, or live. It gives you very cheap burning wood, and, it cleans the forest bed which helps prevent rapid spread forest fires, and allows the forest bed plants to flourish.. Win, Win deal for everybody. . 😀💗

[@billg1527]

Don`t know what stove you decided on but we have two Lopi stoves, one insert and one free standing, both the Answer model, small stoves but between the two they keep our 1,300 sq ft ranch style home toasty, basement gets pretty cool and the bedrooms are 5 degrees cooler than the main rooms but they work great, have had both 17 years with no issues at all.

[@SSLFamilyDad]

That is the brand I am looking at, good to know!

[@davidfriesen7748]

I have a "central boiler" outdoor stove and for a house approx. 3500 sq. ft. in central Ontario, I burn 10-12 cords. very little problems with it after 10 years.

[@franksmith7419]

12 CORDS? U NEEDTO RETHINK.

[@davidfriesen7748]

@@franksmith7419 you might be right Frank, at 64 I'm thinking of a Gas Boiler next year, But all my wood is "FREE", Except for the work, Poeple are glad to get rid of a tree and I won't deal with branches and which I have all the tools for, log splitter,chainsaw, truck etc. and its $350 a cord around here. It's like retiring from a job you like. I could watch a program on TV.

[@hubster4477]

10- 12 cords isn't free when you add up all the time it takes up from cutting the tree to splitting, to hauling to stacking to going out and adding wood. Everybody always says time is money except wood burners. It wouldn't be so bad if you were around 4 cords a year.

[@davidfriesen7748]

@@hubster4477 4 cords would be more for a indoor wood stove, and they don't heat the whole house. You have to not mind the "wood work" and you have some tools example, Truck, Saw and splitter which I was about 10 years too slow in getting, also my outdoor stove takes a 4' log, now that makes a difference. Not to mention a out door wood stove can be configured to heat your garage or driveway if you really want to get fancy, just picture it - ( it snowed 6" last night and your neighbours are all blowing their drives and You just turn on a Valve ! " You are right its a lot of work, but its Tax free and All my wood is Free. Cheers raveondave

[@hubster4477]

I live in upper Michigan and nobody comes close to 10 cords a year, that's an insane amount of wood for a year.

[@zr20s]

those are good stoves. you're probably using 5 cord min just heating the soil with uninsulated pex. put the wood boiler inside your greenhouse with a dragon's breath heat exchanger hanging inside the greenhouse. I went with zsupply underground pipe and I am impressed with the wood usage.

[@theweekendhomestead]

Perfect timing as I am considering getting one - it’s good to hear about the good, bad and ugly

[@SSLFamilyDad]

IF you get an outdoor stove, make sure you get a good one and a good insulated line set. Also, they work far better with in floor radiant heat if that is an option for you. I wish I were building a new house!

[@theweekendhomestead]

SSLFamilyDad we finished that remodel and put a RSF wood Stove in the house with a Heat dump. Basically dumps the wood stove Heat into the cold air return. I was thinking outdoor boiler for pole barn and off grid cabin. I may remodel our off grid cabin and put it on a slab, if I do, for sure in floor heat

[@mywoolmitten]

It appears you are on the right track, it will be interesting to follow along and see how it goes for you, thank you for sharing it

[@michaelcookeiii4552]

Yea I got my outside boiler going. I always have trouble with it. I watched ur video on indoor stove very good thanks. I guess I have to order parts now for the Classics stove.thank you for letting me vent ing.

[@LifeinFarmland]

Check out Lamppa mfg wood furnace. Only 2020 phase 2 epa cert stove on the market. Cut wood usage way down, U.S.A made, and comes with a 25 year warranty

[@memyselfandifarmer]

Also I had an outdoor wood burner that was leaking. 5500 to fix, 8000 to replace. I also had to buy coal because I do not have enough wood on my property. Scrapped all that and put in geothermal. A pump and dump system. Had to redo the duck work in the house but no big deal. Now I just flip a switch sit back and have more time to play with the dogs. If you're going to put that for your greenhouse I would use a glycol mixture for extra protection.

[@victoriaheuman8853]

.Last winter that wood burner looked so tough for you! You are on the right track

[@michiganhomesteader5325]

Great move, you will love having the fire inside!

[@DeltaDonnaLynn]

I think you are doing the right thing! I look forward to see the stove you choose.

[@PatrickWagz]

great choice I suggested the woodstove route in your video about this topic. We have winters similar to your winters and average under 3 cords of wood per year.

[@mikeslittlebitofeverything3256]

Im in Michigan to. The insurance companies are raising the rates pretty high if you use woodburing in your home

[@Eric-gi9kg]

If I had to burn more than 6 cords in the winter to keep my house warm...I would Definitely be looking for a new, more efficient heating system. My average is 3-4 cords.

[@stanroberts4820]

I burn about the same.

[@prhanson]

Or a new house...

[@prhanson]

I use 2-3 a year, woodstove as primary heat for 1200(1800 with basement) square foot house in Canada.

[@billwoelke9572]

Wood stove in house is great. As a back up have you considered ditching your propane furnace and going electric with a heat pump? I don't know how your utility company works, but ours helped pay for the heat pump.

[@P_RO_]

Heat pumps don't fare well in cold climates like the upper half of the US is in winter deals with. Efficiency goes away fast below 40F and you're losing money at freezing temps and lower when the electric back-up coils have to do all the work.

[@billwoelke9572]

@@P_RO_ So a heat pump doesn't perform well 2-3 months out of the year. That is when you use your wood stove. The rest of the year it is great.

[@kaycox5555]

You seem to be on the right track....best of luck!

[@tysonwalsh8193]

You could put wood chips around the pipe when you move the wood boilers to help Insulate the pipes

[@AATreeService]

25 Cord is absolutely insane. Absolutely insane. He should be burning 10

[@audioalt]

I am curious as to how effective your decision will be. May the force be with you.

[@ericgebhart5775]

There are so many ways you can go. If you would upgrade your stove to what you need for everything and use pecans piping in the ground for all your uses. I know it’s a lot go money but I think I’m the long run it will be a savings to you. No mess dust in house no fire hazard. I have an old hardy h 4 Not insulated lines like a dummy. Even doing te lines will save you wood. Good luck n keep me posted. Oh and you will probably spend almost as much time preparing wood for you indoor store as your outdoor. Peices can be longer and wider for your outside stove.

[@Babybugex]

Even the standing ash is dead in Michigan. It is worth it for you to run new lines.

[@jonathanlinder5435]

I think you're on the right track. Love your videos. I have learned a lot and look forward to seeing what's next.

[@popsoldboats3406]

Wow. That is alot of wood. We heat our home with wood only and only use one and a half face cords so half a cord per year. We are much further south than you here in North Carolina. Cost of wood vs other options. I reached those out door heaters and walked away years ago. Get a Vermont soap stone stove for indoor heat and you can go wind and solar for a electric water heater.

[@DeepSouthBama56]

Here is what I did, well I had a lot of help from an old mason too. I wanted a central fireplace for my living room and one in our master bedroom which shared a common wall. Emilio told me he would build me a thermal mass fireplace. What he did was to build the fireplaces first with all solid brick, not using any brick with holes, but he left a foot between the first brick course and the flue tiles open, or empty, creating a empty space. As he laid down the first course of brick he laid in 1/4 inch re bar that hung into the open are between the first course of brick and the flue tiles. As he built this up, he would stop and let the mortar, which was a mix of portland cement dry and cure. then he came back and poured the gap full with more cement. He continued to do this till the fireplace structure was built up past the ceiling level in the rooms. So in between the first course of bricks between the brick and the flue as well as the fire box was a solid mass of cement. He had also tied up re bar vertically as he built this up so this cement column was all tied in. Once he had finished building the fireplaces and chimney. He came back and faced it all off with the final decorative solid brick in the living room and put stone up and over the first brick course in our master bedroom. The wife wanted stone, so hey she got it. So then rather than just use the fire boxes to build a fire in, we put in two Ashley fireplace inserts with blowers. So winter comes we start our first fires and start up heating with all wood. The Ashley inserts made the house very comfortable, but after a week when we would get up normally to re-stoke the fires in the morning we found that the house was still warm, instead of chilly as it had been over the course of the week. I touched the stone and it was warm to the touch still. What was happening over the course of keeping a fire burning was, we heated up that thermal mass of cement and that heat was transferring through the stone and brick into our home. In fact if we were not careful we wound cause the house to become to warm, something that never happened before with just using a wood stove for heat with a flue pipe. Our wood consumption went from 12 cords and being chilly all the time down to 4 cords. At that time we lived in an old 2800 ft. farm house with no insulation in the mountains of Tennessee. My point to all of this is you need to think about building a thermal mass to capture as much heat from the fire as possible and use it to radiate heat into your home.SO if you look it up this is what happens when burning wood to heat your home, fireplace provides 10% of the BTUs in the wood as heat to your room, an airtight stove delivers 80% of them. So anything you can do to capture more of that heat will greatly reduce your wood consumption and thus reduce you work load getting the wood. A plus is with the radiant heat you get less cold spots and drafts. Hope this helps you plan or think about what you want to do.

[@fricknjeep]

hi there i have 2 inside wood stoves 2 oil furnaces and also have a big big wood boiler out side . we have a house thats almost 6000 a green house 15x 30 the hot water and a double garage and a single garage on a lower level . i stopped using the wood stoves because of mess, smell, ash dust, bugs, fire danger , uneven heating and now chimney problems . the boiler works nice tied into the oil duck work . i keep the garages at around 45 and don't use the green house till march planting . i use about a cord a week for about 20 weeks . in the spring and fall i use fuel oil . . there is one thing you said about a dead tree . you said it was seasoned . split it and check it for moisture . the wood just isn't dry enough . i have wood here cut 3 years ago still in the 40% . so those big chunks you are throwing in your boiler are so full of water 1/2 of your wood is going just to boil the water out of it . i think that is where most of your wood is going to . i know its a pain to throw 5 little pieces in insted of 1 big one and keeping the rain /snow off . been there . stay worm john

[@johndoe6522]

Move your wood boiler in ur greenhouse and pump the water to ur house. Assuming the greenhouse is with 25ft of house. update ur waterlines. Spend a couple years getting the bugs out then update the wood boiler.

[@kjamesjr]

Not sure what you decided to do, but if your comfortable in your ability to drive a few screws and run some caulk, you can install the wood stove and chimney yourself. I saved a lot of cash putting in my hearth, stove and chimney solo. When finished have it inspected by your local fire department. They will complete a safety inspection (at no cost) and give you a certificate to send to your insurance company verifying a safe install. Please note; insurance companies will only cover newer EPA certified stoves. Conditions may vary depending on state regulations.

[@mickeyroberson9082]

Go with your gut . Personally I think you are going in the right direction.

[@brianscott7407]

Have you considered a in door wood furnace ive have one in the house since 92 works great !

[@jsullivan1082]

Cutting your own is great, but guage well what your time costs... It might be "cheaper" to buy the wood, rather than cutting every waking minute

[@yellowdeer7163]

Definitely a wood stove. Still used in Sweden.

[@chris3m98]

Sounds like wife & you have things figured out OK??? Go for it!

[@codyfern7976]

We have a pacific energy summit (and love it) it’s in our basement underneath the return air run the furnace fan all the time 3500ish sq ft buy propane once a year

[@WillTheBassPlayer]

I still think that it would be best to upgrade the efficiency of the wood boiler perhaps it would make sense to do it slowly instead of all at once and perhaps using propane furnace just over this coming winter in order to properly upgrade the wood boiler because it is much more efficient when totaling all potential sources of fuel not just the proper kinds of hardwood. If the boiler that you use a simple enough you can throw in everything from pine, locust, hard woods, and so much more. Depending on the size of the burn chamber you can even put in lawn/ leaf bags ( think of how many of those are just sitting on the side of the road and get taken to the land fill.) Plus all of the junk wood like pallets, plywood, ever literal trash. Most boilers can also be set up to go to multiple buildings so your green house can be heated to. Also indoor wood stoves, in addition to the insurance costs and professional installation can only burn specific types of hardwoods. In my opinion, I would only really have an indoor wood stove is if is a wood cook stove that is designed with an attached oven, stove top and hot water jacket (a good example of what I'm talking about is "off grid with Doug and Stacy")

[@TheAllMightyGodofCod]

The algorithm brought me here. I never ever heard about outdoor woodburners to heat the house so I thought "what on earth is this and why would someone prefere it?!" So I played your video. What are the advantages of it being outside? You loose a lot of heat in the pipes and on the wood burner itself. Furthermore, when it is very cold or raining, don't you need to go outside, into de cold or rain and feed the wood burner? Move it inside. Much more efficient and easy to use.

[@pbgd3]

One advantage is that you don't need to haul/store wood into your house. All that wood can stay outside. Another is control, you pipe the hot coolant into the house but you control that heat distribution from a ducted furnace or radiators.

[@popsoldboats3406]

It is out side so when it finally falls apart that it will not burn you up at night. I see these things setting lawn on fire quite often here in the South East where I live. They are welded plate not cast or a more durable material. Along with the out door elements helping to corrode them. Basic math shows that they will never pay for themselves here in the Carolinas. But people keep getting them.

[@douglasdillon7773]

I would think whatever you think works best for your situation is the right thing to do.

[@mollyd8062]

How will you heat your water? Back up heat for when no one is home to tend to the stove?

[@anne-mariebrooks2256]

That was my question as well.

[@SSLFamilyDad]

I still have the propane furnace here as a backup, it is a mess and not working well but fine forms a backup. We use an electric water heater in the summer so that will now be run year round

[@OakKnobFarm]

I'm doing a wood boiler, too. We are using a SuperStor water heater that's fed from the wood boiler (or LP boiler in the summer). They also make twin coil tanks that can accommodate solar HW as well

[@clarkrobinson3084]

Sounds like great plan. Repurposing the outdoor boiler to greenhouse and syrup boiler is smart as nd interesting. Can't wait to see the build.

[@123windyron]

You need to put the wood boiler in the green house out of the weather cold snow and wind.just build a attached shed on to your greenhouse.the wood boiler needs to be inclosed ...

[@BigFarles]

Excited for this series. Use your pallet wood to make wood racks. Mathias Wandel has made some.

[@brentderksen]

There is somethkng to be said about having warm crackle of a wood stove in the home.

[@TheSoupdragon1968]

Are you going to do a vlog on the stove you decide on, I heat a small bungalow in the UK with just a 5 kw stove in the living room. I'm not on mains gas, I do have lpg but it costs a fortune to run. My advise is to buy the best stove you can afford. I have a Merlin stove made in UK. But it's very efficient, I think I would to for s contura stove or a jotul stove as they are very efficient and even when old have a great parts back up!

[@tomlangley6236]

Dont you miss the good ole 70s? The Energy Crunch and everyone and his Brother were installing wood burners! No regulations.....Insurance companys didn't care. Just plop that sucker in there and fire it up!

[@dylanmcdonald7765]

Excited to see how it goes. I'm really interested in seeing your comparisons.

[@mountainviews5025]

Your doing exactly what you need to do because last year no one should have to work that hard to heat there house

[@OakKnobFarm]

First time viewer, cool video. I think you are going down the right path.... at least I HOPE you are, because I'm walking beside you ;) I'm in the process of converting from oil-fired forced air, to LP/wood hydro-air. I'm just about complete with the LP boiler installation, I've roughed-in some tees for the wood boiler (coming soon!). Plan is, LP for summer hot water and for backup if we have problems with the wood boiler. We're removing the oil furnace, and replacing it with a fan-coil unit that can operate from the hot water we generate from wood. I have also considered adding a heat exchanger so I can pump water/antifreeze mix outside to run radiant heat in the chicken coop. Zero fire risk as opposed to a heat lamp.

[@murreyreynders9656]

Just a suggestion go with a heat pump in the greenhouse a fellow in Nebraska did and grew fruit year round he has a video on KZbin or a rocket mass heater

[@markmathews5117]

Look forward to seeing what you get for a stove. Thanks for the videos.

[@michaelmorris9192]

When you are 70-80 years old will you still be able to throw logs?

[@P_RO_]

Most of the people going into 'self reliance' today don't realize that if it's not easy now it will become impossible later on unless you'll have someone else to do it or at least help you. My older cousin ran the 4th generation family farm as long as he could, but his kids wanted a different life and moved away so the time came where he had to let it all go. You're going to get sick in life. You may break an arm or leg in life. If you're here long enough you'll get old and more feeble. If your 'self-reliance' isn't making you enough cash to cover all the things that can happen to you then it's not the way you need to be going. It's not what people want to hear but it's what they need to hear.

[@MrDave8539]

I'm a lazy propane guy, because wood stoves can be super hot and dry your house down to very low humidity levels. When the house gets to dry then I'm running humidifiers for my family's health. A wall monitor cost less than 2k and run efficiently, but obviously not self sustainable for me. Good luck and God Bless

[@giterdun1864]

Is that 25 face cords or actual 4x8x4foot piles of stacked firewood ( cord) ? 25 cords is a crap ton and then some. Slip a rocket stove build in there when insurance approves EPA stove. Run it through a thermal bench. Then you can just burn the sticks around the homestead.

[@freedomhomesteadky]

I like that idea. Should work great for a greenhouse.

[@habiks]

I live on other side of the world.. but.. running a low temp heat pump (air/water) to heat 100m2 house and water in winter time costs me 40€/month in electricity.. no extra labor, no maintenance, etc..

[@GrizzlyGroundswell]

Brilliant! Excited to see how your solution works out!

[@tomhillesheim7065]

What does you insurance company think about an inside wood burner? Premium could be off the chart or they could drop you.

[@chevy6299]

Got to do what is right for you and the family.

[@lexmark6464]

Indoor wood stove with a fan is a must..

[@jcasey4883]

I've seen these fans that you set on top of the stove, and the heat rising off the stove powers them, it's kind of cool how they work..

[@johnwoofter5744]

If you burn 25 cords a wood a winter you have one piece of junk system. You wouldn't burn that in Alaska

[@davids.9834]

No kidding. I have a 3200 square feet home with an englander add on wood furnace. Not the new one... the old style with no afterburner tubes and Im well under 10 cords a year. Im probably around 6 to 7. THE WOOD HAS TO BE DRY!!! Burning wet wood is like beating your head into a wall... which is what I think your doing.

[@brosefmcman8264]

Outdoor burners are wood hogs and require a lot of combustibles! Their convenience doesn't outweigh the the consequences of using one

[@offgriddlifestyle2544]

rocketmass heaters are getting popular and kinda efficient... whould not know from personal experience research helps a lot

[@nickpopelka]

The wood furnace in the house is nice if you got a spot for wood in the house

[@61NOMAN]

Hey I have a question, did the insurance on your place tell you that you can’t have a wood stove? My wife and I just bought a house and I wanted to put an indoor wood stove in my house and my insurance told me I would be paying through the roof for me to put a wood fireplace or wood stove in my house. So my wife and I decided it wasn’t worth it. Did anyone have the same experience? Is it worth it?

[@kurtskamera]

I'm curious about the installation cost and what your insurance company has to say

[@Markam248]

take a look at a wood furnace. life in farmland just did a good video on a company he is looking at. i personally like a wood stove. best of luck on your projects. Mark

[@gwaynel8363]

Get the wood stove for the house. Insulate the outdoor stove for the greenhouse. With the money you save find you a tiller for the tractor and it will save you days.

[@davidcrowson4745]

Sounds like you're doing the right thing 😎

[@jerkyturkey007]

Just curious, commercial boiler systems use a antifreeze solution in the radiator heat exchanger just in case the boiler breaks down in the cold, the pipes won't freeze and break. Is that a possibility for your greenhouse?

[@HubertofLiege]

jerkyturkey007 I fill my pressure washer coils with the same in the winter

[@scooter2kool173]

25cords of wood? Do u have Windows wow. I heat with corn and I purchase 100bshl a year

[@ponderingskeptic9047]

Mid Mich. ( Lower P. ) 2400 sqft. late 70's ranch, finished basement and main level, well insulated. 70's Anderson double pane windows. One nice 2,000 sqft. rated newer wood stove. in basement. Two ( but only using one, its upstairs ) 70's era Heatalator fireplaces ( requires power for blowers ). Propane forced hot water heat, gravity flow baseboards, thermostats set @ 55deg. F. Wood stove and fireplace maintain 70 deg, + temps and that deep radiant heat that thaws the soul on especially cold days and nights. Propane for days away from home or when I'm feelin lazy. Currently using about 2+ chords a winter season. Hope to retire soon, probably will increase to 3 maybe 4 chords of wood but much less propane. Always burn hot fires, end up with minimal creosote, use 6in chimney liner for wood stove, burn a creosote destroyer log near end of season. 4 years now, I clean liner at end of season, end up with one #10 coffee can of creosote ( +/- ). Increased risk with indoor wood stove but that can easily be managed with proper preparation and due old school respect. Home owners Insurance, Progressive told me they wouldn't insure a wood stove at this new residence, even though the last residence they had no problem, for 3 years. Auto Owners told me that there would be a surcharge for wood stove and 2 fireplaces of $25 dollars a year, and by the way your overall bill would be about 1/2 that of Progressive........... Thanks for the videos, it's good to know there are more folks out there that can do things and figure out for themselves how live and enjoy life. God Bless.

[@faithfifield7278]

Sounds like you would have like your outdoor wood burner, if it had been hooked up correctly and you didn't have all the issues. You made the right choice for your family.

[@SSLFamilyDad]

agreed, I actually loved the wood burner and last year did a video about how much I liked it. Just wasting wood though setup like it is

[@josephtufts7649]

Classic Edge wood burner

[@jackfunk5765]

Are ya looking at fireplace extronair? They make a great unit.

[@TheFordtrucknut]

i dont care what anyone says, those heat exchange wood burners are very inefficient no matter the brand. if you want an outdoor wood burner a forced air burner is the way to go.

[@nam3no221]

You are on the right track

[@probeteam9936]

35 cords is ridiculous... your killing yourself for heat... make a change ... if you use the outdoor burner you should consider the super insulated pipe ... God Bless ...

[@coffeebuzzz]

I can't believe it burns 35 cords a year. Thats a pile 4 feet wide, 4 feet high and 200 feet long. In Australia we pay about $150 per m3 so that firewood would be worth over $15,000.00.

[@MrPyroJimmy]

I believe he is talking about face cord not full cord. I burn around 10 full cord a winter, and here in Wisconsin 10 full cord would sell for about $1,100.00.

[@unleashedoutdoors3975]

ill be interested to see how much your wood stove install is going to be. HAving it professionally installed will be expensive. You can get GOOD ungrouind pipe for $10/ft. so for $800 you can get good pipe....you said that your pipe isn't insulated at all???? WOW! half of your wood consumption is going to heating the ground

[@fredgruetzmacher9220]

Pull the tin sheeting around that roof and sides of that wood boiler...You will be surprised how poorly it's really insulated...You can ad spray on insulation or even fiberglass batts..Stuff it full and caulk all seems so bees cant get in..the. pull your lines to the home...Replace with well insulated...You can add a pump and another set of lines to a radiator and fan in your green house from present location.... You will triple the performance of any cheaper stove with a little sealing and insulating...I am doing exactly that to mine in 2 weeks....I have a Classic Boiler..the spray isolation on it is not really thick...and last winter when changing out the Thermostat I noticed how warm the insulation was...That means heat loss...I plant to cut down on my 25 face cord consumption of hardwood this year by insulating the boiler area under the metal sheeting much better

[@TheKamakuraGardener]

👍🏾👍🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Are you Gary Collins from The Survival Podcast Expert Council? You sound like him. 🤔😀

[@papabits5721]

Northern Canada I would use 12 cords to heat the house for the winter