Why I ditched Things3, and what I use now

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That Mark Gilroy

Күн бұрын

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@kelaidiscope 6 ай бұрын

Amazing video. You've got a new subscriber.

@ThatMarkGilroy 6 ай бұрын

@@kelaidiscope Thanks buddy. Welcome!

@IMMERSIVEVOICE 5 ай бұрын

You can never delete things 3 permanently. We’ve all been there, you’ll be back to things

@ThatMarkGilroy 5 ай бұрын

Ha! I know what you mean, I deleted it before and went back. Still rocking Superlist as my main task manager though!

@fullbellygod 5 ай бұрын

I believe you - and was kind of expecting this kind of comment. I would feel kinda like I was betraying Things3 if I were to jump ship. Since Things3 is not a subscription like Todoist, I thought it was the best thing since sliced bread. Anyway, thanks for the warning.

@IMMERSIVEVOICE 5 ай бұрын

@@ThatMarkGilroyGive it time mate. I’ve deleted it so many times too. Switching to Apple Reminders especially with iOS18 Beta and the integration with Calendar and Reminders but come on. Give it time, you’ll be back. I almost guarantee you’ll be back to Things 4 when that comes out

@anttif. 3 ай бұрын

@@IMMERSIVEVOICEAgree. I’ve been using it for a year or so, and only recently did I figured out how to use it properly. And I really appreciate the developers for keeping it simple as it is

@kyrbies Ай бұрын

@@IMMERSIVEVOICE Hard to say, but it is so. I hate Things 3 for being - no location-based reminders mastered, - I can't share a small list in the family or team (if it's too small for a project tool), - no attachments/images can be added, - no integrations with IFTTT or other tools are possible to link repetitive tasks to the weather or other things, - does not provide encryption in their cloud or better directly iCloud Sync with advanced data protection - and much more... BUT no other ToDo app compared to Things - masters the keyboard input from anywhere so well, - makes good use of deadlines, - does not create a guilty conscience if something is postponed to the next day, - is already so clear even without numerous filters, - needs no/less time to manage itself, - allows a quick overview of tasks AND appointments - makes you really productive and not just feel productive - and much more... That's why I always end up there and have now given up on testing alternatives for longer than 5 minutes. Currently, ToDoIst is still the most likely for me - especially since deadlines were introduced this month - as a competitor, but on the Mac it just feels like a WebApp, you have to make a lot of filters for a good view and you also need a subscription to be able to use it productive. iOS 18 also made me think about Apple Reminders and Calendar again, potential was present, but at the latest when you use repetitive tasks the calendar is littered and in Reminders it becomes clear as soon as you use more than 5 tasks and/or still maintain details. In addition, unfinished tasks in the calendar are then "lost" and you have to open reminders again. But what worked quite well for me as an alternative was GoodTask (based on Apple Reminders with iCloud Sync) + Fantastical, but currently the image attachments are not passed on to third parties and GoodTask has its own system for subtasks, which then appear in the notes. With Fantastical as a calendar app it was already better. Apple Reminders are presented unfinished and with [10m] in the task title it was even possible to create automatic time blocking. However, the Reminder App is not really suitable for the GTD method and many tasks at the moment. So what to do? Furthermore, Things 3 for task planning including appointment view (and not tasks in the calendar...), maintain calendars in Apple Calendar, Fantastical or Google Calendar, in Apple Reminders within the family a shared shopping list and one for shared tasks, as well as a personal one for location-based reminders and one for automatic shortcuts with image (reminders for incoming mail with screenshot of the scanned PDF). Siri and shortcuts now work well with things, so I don't have to import anything from a reminder list anymore. Because it allows me to access my shopping list app "Buy Me a Pie!" I could do without it, I could then with a 2. Arrange ToDo app on my devices 😎

@kevinkrieger9992 8 ай бұрын

Tried out Superlist and while its got a ton of potential, coming from things it lacks some major features and I doubt anyone that has used things prior will be satisfied. You cannot filter your tasks so you only see a certain area/tag. You have due dates but you can't schedule when to start tasks. Sub tasks don't automatically have the same tags/ lists as the original tasks. Just really an unfinished product and not nearly ready to be put out. Oh I forgot to mention, the shortcuts are horrible and you have to use your mouse for basically everything while scheduling tasks.

@StevenMichels 9 ай бұрын

It looks great, but is it ready for prime time? Some of the reviews mention its unreliability and glitchiness. Let us know how it goes!

@ThatMarkGilroy 9 ай бұрын

The first release had a bug where the letter ‘T’ wouldn’t work…but as I say the devs are ramping up the features at a rate of knots (the ‘T’ issue was fixed pretty quickly)! I haven’t had any of the syncing issues that I’ve read about so I didn’t refer to them in this video.

@Luistation 7 күн бұрын

Notion, Trello, Things 3, Agenda, Calendar Apps, Reminders Apps, it’s hard to pick at least 2 of them so I avoid confusion and productivity procrastination.

@Jenny_Rose_ 9 ай бұрын

Big fan of making to do lists as well as many other general lists (movies to watch, books to read etc) and this sounds awesome! I wasn't aware of this app! Now just to decide if I should pull the trigger on an M2 MacBook Air as I'm getting back into writing.. decisions lol. Thanks for this video!

@vitalis 7 ай бұрын

The thing about Things is the polished UX. Superlist attempts to be a bit like Notion but UI wise I’m not that into it.

@raycheshire5581 9 ай бұрын

Another excellent video Mark. Well produced and edited (as always) but most importantly it was most informative. I’ve been dabbling with Superlist over the last two days and believe it could the “Neo” of productivity. Notion is too heavy my needs, Todoist is fantastic but lacks the depth of Superlist. Going to give Superlist a proper test drive at work (currently waiting for IT to allow one of the integrations to work) this week.

@ThatMarkGilroy 9 ай бұрын

Thanks Ray, and enjoy- let me know how you get on!

@janscott9151 9 ай бұрын

Oh I love a todo list. Using TickTick at the moment but I was thinking of saving money and moving to MS Todo. I have Macs/Ipads at home, but work is MS and my phone Android. So this is a timely video to take a look. Thanks Mark.

@ThatMarkGilroy 9 ай бұрын

Thanks Jan, I’ve used TickTick too, it’s a nice app but that annual subscription is pretty costly for what it is. Let me know what you think if you take a look at Superlist.

@christianjungen4867 6 ай бұрын

Thanks, as a diehard Android / Windows user im glad you're mention that it works on those

@VisibleLewis3 8 ай бұрын

First time watching you and I really enjoyed your personality. Would love to see more videos on productivity….Thank you for the effort you put in to your craft.

@ThatMarkGilroy 8 ай бұрын

Thanks buddy. More on the way!

@GerryHoch 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video. I like Superlist but using the app on my phone isn't easy for what I need it to do.

@ThatMarkGilroy 9 ай бұрын

Fair enough Gerry! What’s your go to to-do?

@petara45 28 күн бұрын

It's funny how you consider Things being expensive at $100, but then, that's the same price you have to pay for Superlist if you want to use it for just one year.

@ThatMarkGilroy 28 күн бұрын

This is a fair point.

@bhanajczyk 8 ай бұрын

App has a potential but at this stage its not usable on iOS, its not even in app store, lets wait and see how they get on. Fingers crossed.

@ndrwbatchelor 7 ай бұрын

Do you live outside the US? It’s on the App Store and has been for a while.

@Mark..P 3 ай бұрын

Can you confirm if this is a totally independent review and recommendation or if you are being paid by this company. Thanks

@ThatMarkGilroy 3 ай бұрын

I always disclose paid partnerships with a label and mention at the start of my videos. Not a paid review.

@solomon1021 5 ай бұрын

My “thing” is if you have already paid for it then use it. I test all for fun. I do wish things had attachment support but for the most part it’s just about getting things done. Good video though

@ThatMarkGilroy 5 ай бұрын

@@solomon1021 Thanks mate.

@michelleadams5609 9 ай бұрын

Excellent presentation. I'm very much an analog, bullet-journal fine stationery type of gal, but once in a while I dive deep into the world of prod. apps and it is overwhelming. I have Routine, Todist, Ticktick now, but my interest in them drops off and before I know it I've forgotten all about using them. I think it's far more important to actually be productive with one or two apps, then to constantly be searching for apps, setting them up with the realization that you've wasted loads of time on that. There's a guilt that sets in. You had me at free. The ability to switch off personal and work tasks. Absolutely brilliant. I've never seen that. I know some people love to be able to have everything, all worlds in one place, from work to business to ideas and aspirational to business to family, but not me. I want to have the division between work/business and personal. Thanks!

@ThatMarkGilroy 9 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it Michelle- and totally agree it’s about using something you trust rather than ‘productive procrastination’. I didn’t mention this in the video but I’ve been combining this and the Ugmonk Analogue Weekly which sits at my desk. Superlist and the Ugmonk kit is a great setup.

@Jadelover123 8 ай бұрын

I am with you...i am a productivity app junkie...I am always looking into the new shiney apps lol!!

@ThatMarkGilroy 6 ай бұрын

Right?!

@ykd0011 8 ай бұрын

It's hard to trust products of developers that sell their products while we stick to it like stupids, and put all our info and todo list, basically life management to it. What is the guarantee that they won't sell superlist to someone else tomorrow?

@ThatMarkGilroy 8 ай бұрын

I know. Best we can do when you find a tool you like is spread the risk without it affecting your day to day too much. I used to have everything in Notion (and I do mean everything) and now I’m much more discerning about what I put and where.

@ThornCreekWoodworks Ай бұрын

Love superlist in the browser and on my Android phone, but extremely bummed to find out there is no apple pencil support after picking up my first iPad last week

@ThatMarkGilroy Ай бұрын

The squiggle dividers make it look like it should be. 🙁

@ThornCreekWoodworks Ай бұрын

@@ThatMarkGilroy for sure!

@thomas0086 6 ай бұрын

I absolutely love things three and I do not understand why other task managers do not adopt the main things that make things great. Start dates, deadlines, areas of focus where single actions are also contained and a someday category. Extremely frustrated with the lack of development now and looking for alternatives, I could suffer through Apple reminders for collaboration, but the lack of a someday category or the ability to tag or flag entire projects (lists) sucks As Id need to use it for our small business and personal along with collaborating.

@ThatMarkGilroy 6 ай бұрын

It’s odd isn’t it. Things3 is all about speed and simplicity. This stuff doesn’t need overcomplicating.

@Trish-lamour 2 ай бұрын

It's lacking an iwatch app. Otherwise I'd give it a try.

@SteveInterest 6 ай бұрын

How long before they sell again and what happens then to your info?

@ThatMarkGilroy 6 ай бұрын

Fair question. For this very reason I don’t ever operate a ‘everything under one system’ approach. If I need to switch then I can/will without too much hassle.

@riaz72 Ай бұрын

superlist doesnt have intergration on free tier

@ThatMarkGilroy Ай бұрын

Ah, that’s rubbish. Thanks for letting us know!

@chrisbourgeois7576 4 ай бұрын

Superlist is now on my radar, thank you 🙂. My only beef is pricing is not the best argument. Things 3 has an upfront cost, yes. But if you compared any other to do app that has a monthly cost, let’s say at $5 a month, in two years you will have paid more for the monthly subscription app than Things 3.

@ThatMarkGilroy 4 ай бұрын

Good point Chris. Lots of interesting updates from the Superlist team since I made this. May make a deeper dive soon.

@MrBoedyirh 8 ай бұрын

I cannot find a way to put emoji in Heading.

@ThatMarkGilroy 8 ай бұрын

On the phone app it’s working fine for me 🤷🏻‍♂️

@BartvanderHorst 6 ай бұрын

The only thing that Things could use, is the possibilities to change tasks in notes and vice versa... but superlist is not cheap at all for 8 euros a month you have a pro subscription In four years you could buy things 4 times. There are so many things things 3 can do Superlist can't... I really don't understand why you have changed. And saying things 3 is expensive is a not really true... things 3 is not a subscription model... I know it is dying out... but therefore it is worth it. When you buy things y ou are not a beta tester.... in any way.

@ThatMarkGilroy 4 ай бұрын

Fair point. But there's a lot more missing in Things3 that I'd love to see. The ability to auto-set certain tasks to appear as 'evening' tasks, adding files/notes to tasks, I could go on. It's VERY fast and Things3 sync is unmatched though.

@vptrxvx 9 ай бұрын

BUT it doesn't support Apple shortcuts on MAC, this is a must have !

@ThatMarkGilroy 8 ай бұрын

Doesn't it? I thought most of the shortcuts I use work on a Mac? I could be wrong!

@vptrxvx 8 ай бұрын

@@ThatMarkGilroy Yea It looks like it, ive downloaded the app from their website and no shortcuts are available

@tavusion 8 ай бұрын

@@ThatMarkGilroy I think he's talking about support for Shortcuts, Apple's automation app. Things has a pretty extensive Shortcuts support.

@ThatMarkGilroy 8 ай бұрын

@tavusion [penny drops] AHA! Got you.

@busimo 15 күн бұрын

Superlist literally as a company can have access to all of your data whenever they want. Would not recommend.

@krealdesign 7 ай бұрын

I had high hopes for it but oh man, it’s nowhere near Things3. Yes it’s beautiful. Usable and intuitive? Absolutely not. Almost for everything you need to click a mouse rather than shortcuts. iOS is another story - opening a task by swiping? Reinventing the wheel might not be the best idea for intuitivity here. I’ll keep my eyes on it, but seeing thay they already work on AI rather than fixing fundamental UX problems I have doubts there.

@DreamWizard9 3 ай бұрын

Superlist looks fugly and unnecessary maximal. Feels like: " OH, NOW I FINALLY FOUND THE GREATEST TOOL THAT WILL ORGANISE MY LIFE!!!" aka a tool that make me into a tool of it. Not convinced.