Why I Don’t Believe in a Lost Advanced Civilization...Yet

In this introduction to the Myths of Ancient History series, Dr. Miano provides his reasons for not believing in an ancient advanced civilization, at least not the one that a lot of people are imagining. But he does reveal what kind of lost civilization he DOES believe in.
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[@Jenema2]

And look forward to my video "Why I don't believe in oxygen". Lmfao xD

[@makinapacal]

I also don't think that there was an advanced super civilization in the same way I do not believe in the tooth fairy, Elvis is alive, Paul is dead, the world would end in 2012 and Hitler is still alive.

[@zvidanyatvetski8081]

@NEAR TERM EXTINCTION - HUMAN Poopoo peepee

[@hewhoadds]

@NEAR TERM EXTINCTION - HUMAN wtf are you on about

[@GroberWeisenstein]

@@makinapacal how do you feel about leprechauns?

[@telebubba5527]

Jean Michel Jarre would care to differ😉

[@joshuasheehy3220]

As a law student currently writing a dissertation centred on misinformation, I'm finding the single biggest problem to be a lack of empathetic engagement from academics and educators. It creates a void that the imagination can fill in the absence of a scientific mind. Often times, the goodwiled engagement that academics end up doing can be condescending and even counterproductive. By taking your time to do these videos in the way that you do, you do a great service to your field, even if it isn't the research that might interest you or your colleagues. Your doing for history what is sadly lacking in other fields. Thank you.

[@WorldofAntiquity]

Thanks. I appreciate hearing that!

[@LordSlag]

@@WorldofAntiquity Great video. Awesome stuff.

[@Evolver8484]

There are programs and channels that go over any aspect of academics that you can imagine. But there's differences in common understanding between subjects. My background is in genetics, I've gotten literally 1000s of questions over covid. First came "is it going to be like 1918 or just the flu," ignoring that 1918 WAS influenza. But the big one was "Is the vaccine safe?" Short answer is "yes." But going over all the checks and balances, statistics, legal requirements, chemistry, how immune responses work... it got to be a book. I really got to feel the old quote "A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." At the end of all of it I'll admit I just started saying "take the damn vaccine." For history most people can see the tools. But mixing chemicals together... well people tend to be suspicious over what they cant see. I haven't found a nice way around that.

[@joshuasheehy3220]

@@Evolver8484 I agree, I think thats where trust comes in. To some extent, for non-academics knowledge of science does just boil down to belief. Thats why tone is so important. As frustrating as it might be, if an ancient aliens conspiracy theorist is more engaging, accessible and less patronising then a lot of folks are going to be drawn in on that basis alone. Same for vaccines I suspect.

[@ModernEphemera]

@@WorldofAntiquity It’s true! The ancient aliens Atlantis stuff is so pervasive, it’s refreshing to see someone present counterpoints to all that in a watchable and approachable way. Even for people who already know it’s bs, it’s nice to talk out the reasons why

[@OldieBugger]

Anyway, all those "wonderous" artifacts of ancient times tell me is that the ancient stonemasons were pretty darn good at their job. Respect.

[@airthrowDBT]

What you are missing out is that some of the artifacts CANNOT be done in either the times claimed with the tools claimed, or AT ALL with the tools claimed. I suggest you read the Lost Technologies of Ancient Egypt by Christopher Dunn. The ancient builders were certainly stellar at building. They just had more advanced machines than have been found and were not made with copper chisels and saws with sand like Egyptologists (who are not builders) would have you believe.

[@airthrowDBT]

For example, you CANNOT quarry megalithic stones with the angles we have seen on abandoned stones, by bashing diorite balls against granite. The angles left do not match up to the stones we have seen that have been partially worked.

[@OldieBugger]

@@airthrowDBT So? Maybe they didn't use the diorite rocks for everything? Maybe they had the intelligence to use a variety of tools for a variety of tasks in hand. I think the ancient stonemasons were not the stupid ones here.

[@airthrowDBT]

@@OldieBugger Again, I think the ancient stone masons were highly intelligent. I'm not sure how you can ask "SO?" to the possibility that they must've had MUCH more advanced tools than are in the historical record, it literally changes human history. It's worthy of a lot more than a "SO?"

[@airthrowDBT]

@@OldieBugger And if you're trying to imply that I'm stupid, I build things for a living, what do you do with tools every day? It seems like you're out of your element or don't know much about megaliths...which is it?

[@Embassy_of_Jupiter]

Actually there are several advanced civilizations that existed for millions of years and spread to every continent. Some built giant towers that kept perfect climatized conditions, miraculously without using any power. They are separated into several castes that have very specialized jobs. There are kings and one or many queens, there are workers and there are soldiers. Some build giant cities underground and their main food source comes from fungi they cultivate in the dark. They still exist today, mostly hidden from plain sight and they are called "termites".

[@WorldofAntiquity]

😄

[@floridaman4073]

Uhh… I’m from Florida and this is too out there for me…

[@noisepuppet]

Could termites have come from outer space? Alien termite theorists say yes.

[@Sylentmana]

I thought you were going to say ants. I guess I wasn’t TOO far off…

[@Embassy_of_Jupiter]

@@noisepuppet LMAO

[@RostislavLapshin]

10:08 For those who are interested in the topic of polygonal masonry. A number of methods for obtaining the polygonal masonry are proposed. The basis of the proposed methods is the use of clay/gypsum replicas, reduced clay models of stone blocks and a 3D-pantograph, as well as a topography translator. The results are presented in the article: “Fabrication methods of the polygonal masonry of large tightly fitted stone blocks with curved surface interfaces in megalithic structures of Peru”. I do not provide a direct link, because KZbin does not allow a comment with this link. Search by the article title.

[@bobwilson7684]

I have a couple of conceptual problems there, those people had no wheeland all that, but they first had the idea of building with those shapes..and sizes...for which they wouldn´t have tools...but they had that device for reproducing the shapes of the adjacent blocks....seems contradictory...is insisting on a certain idea a bit obssesively, and again and again not having any fisical improvement in the real world,with real materials and tools described plus, again the timing, using that method they would still starting to build tomorrow... this thing of massive texts assuring some theory, but no real practical tests...?...I donnou...that is supposed to be science, they want us to call it science...just a massive text with some photos of walls and drawings, if someone cares about ending with fake news and crazy theories, someone will have to provide real practical improvements with real tools and in real conditions, otherwise is just only text.

[@airthrowDBT]

"The work provides a description of techniques, which apparently were used by builders who arrived from Europe." Are you saying the Peruvian polygonal masonry was done by Europeans??

[@bobwilson7684]

@@airthrowDBT no, ivilizations of the past were connected, the knowledge was common and shared by all the origins ? who knows, not archeologists, for sure, here min 03:00, a dolmen built atop a pyramid..in china , Miano only says his own frustrations and fixations...kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKGvZpZprbefe9U&lc=UgyOZDxwHU14eYuk3Dp4AaABAg.9aXVxyLjz_R9aY3YG95qab

[@afterthought3341]

Ancient architects channel does video on report made by group restoring and preserving Sassca humam . Really changed my mind on how it was built .

[@JMM33RanMA]

@@airthrowDBT Yes, the theory is, in fact, race based because non-white people are considered too primitive and undeveloped to do anything. I was teaching an international class and one of the Hidalgos [white pure blood European Spaniard] from Latin America said, "The megalithic structures in Peru couldn't have been built by "Indios" because they were too primitive." I was shocked and was trying to decide how to correct him when it was, fortuitously, taken out of my hands by the students. The students from Mexico, India and the Middle East were incensed by this and basically pointed out that their non-white ancestors were building cities when Europeans were still living in caves. I only exerted authority by insisting that they had to be polite, take turns presenting and refuting factual evidence, not biased opinions. Their homework was to come up with a final fact based conclusion. The class actually went overtime, and the janitors had to throw us out to do their evening work. I tried to let the students work through the information as fact checker and referee rather than imposing my own views. Like Professor Miano, when the students demanded that I tell them my position, I gave them the professional consensus, that the earliest known civilizations were in China, Egypt, Mesopotamia, and possibly the Aegean. As far as known at the time, the civilizations in the Americas developed independently later, but their main cities sometimes were better and more populous than those in contemporary European civilizations. Many of the "Atlantis Theories" are an attempt to prove that White people, Aryans, were the source of all developments. The Nazis didn't invent this, it was already in circulation, but they did make it more virulent. Most unfortunately, such things still exist.

[@SobekLOTFC]

It's attractive to be "in on the secret knowledge", and much easier to accept these fanciful things than to accept civilization arose out of a very messy trial and error- with error being the norm more often than not.

[@oltch.]

No think about it. YOU'RE THE ONE WITH THE SECRET KNOWLEDGE, THAT IS GATEKEEPING .

[@SobekLOTFC]

@@oltch. how so? I don't believe there was a historical Atlantis, so what secret knowledge would I have? I apologize if I wrote something that offended you.

[@matheussanthiago9685]

@@SobekLOTFC you are the most polite person I've seen on a youtube thread in a long time

[@bobwilson7684]

you write your name in greek, ok, can be interesting, science: energy cannot be created nor destructed you cannot create information out of nothing ...science ..that is what science says.....interesting contradictions of science

[@bobwilson7684]

@FilthyDankWastemanFabuless mmmhhnoh, the enregy gets distributed does not get disintegrated cammon, man is the first anyone learns in science, now you are a conspiracy theorist ?? you believe in lost ancient tech? ;)

[@a.s.f.g.8345]

For those who don't understand, he is not saying that he is certain that we already know everything and there is zero possibility that a technologically advanced civilization existed, he is saying that the proponents of those theories haven't presented credible evidence and their methods and retoric are flawed, I'm sure that any person that studies history like him would be the most excited about a discovery of that caliber but also knows that claims that important requires even more scrutiny

[@WorldofAntiquity]

Absolutely!

[@buttercxpdraws8101]

Well said. The nonsense that academics would hide or ignore evidence that proves a new theory, to maintain the status quo, or threaten their highly paid (lol) careers is so ludicrous! If the evidence is there, any academic would be thrilled to present an exciting new theory - but they’re not going jump on board without evidence! That would be a real risk to their careers!!

[@joshuasheehy3220]

@@buttercxpdraws8101 while I absolutely agree, it is also true that stigmatizatiom of certain topics can create some friction in the evidence > conclusion > consensus chain of academia. Particulary where the stigma affects the funding of the very research necessary to evidence the stigmatised theories. An open but critical mind is what's required.

[@waltonsmith7210]

I get so sick and tired of people with fanciful theories that lack academic rigor who spend all their time whining about how "the establishment" won't take them seriously instead of actually trying to find evidence for their theories. I swear to god at a certain point that becomes 99% of their content and I just find it insufferable. I'm not in the market for apersecution complex lol. I'd rather know the truth.

[@mnomadvfx]

@@buttercxpdraws8101 "but they’re not going jump on board without evidence! That would be a real risk to their careers" Depends what you mean by "jump on board". If you mean loudly proclaiming it is true without forming a convincing case and presenting a paper to properly put your point across I would say yes - even then as Dr Miano has stated before the paper would go through peer review and be brought to account if obvious errors where shown to be present, and I doubt that the good doctors career was in trouble for any of these occasions. I think a career would only be in trouble if you were essentially perceived as bringing the entire field into disrepute by completely side stepping peer review and going full PR mode on your own - that is when it becomes less about the science and more about the same kind of self aggrandizement and public exploitation which makes the likes of Foerster and Hancock so detestable.

[@njm3211]

Respect for the ancient architects, engineers, craftsmen. Thanks Dr. Really enjoy your channel.

[@annetteku1]

A clear minded thorough walk-through of all the claims and foggy ancient civilization videos Thank you very much 👍

[@thejontao]

There were “advanced” ancient peoples, we call them Neolithic humans, and there is boat loads of archeological evidence for them. They had thousands of years of experience (and most certainly oral tradition) related to working with stone. They knew which stone was better for different things. They knew where to find this stone. The knew how to work it. They even developed all the technologies required for the Bronze Age to happen. It’s clear that non-academics tend to underestimate how “advanced” Neolithic humans were. But I also think academics haven’t done the best job communicating on this subject either. The gap between these two is a fertile valley for all kinds of pseudo-intellectuals to plant their seeds.

[@BlacksmithTWD]

Indeed, also it is rather silly to assume that we dug up the last interesting thing from the neolithic era. Many people also overestimate the speed of evolutional change among human beings, genetically we hardly differ from these people.

[@johannageisel5390]

Yup. Just look at all the cool gear that Ötzi had with him. It's awesome!

[@chriskelly6574]

They invented pitch. Holy sheep dip! Neandertal really blows me away man. Two egg shells, birch bark and a bed of glowing hot coals. BAM!! Pitch, mind blown. flying saucers indeed.

[@johannageisel5390]

@@chriskelly6574 It's already amazing that Neanderthals hunted huge animals and lived in Europe during the ice age. You need some serious survival skills for that. Oh, and in terms of art and religion they also seemed to have some stuff going on. There is a structure built by Neanderthals in a cave in France, built from stalagmites and stalagtites and so deep within that cave that they needed artificial light (probably fatty bones) to be able to see in there. It didn't seem to have been a place to actually live, so the hypothesis is that they built it for some symbolic purpose, like for rituals or something.

[@chriskelly6574]

@@johannageisel5390 Do you remember being a young child? Do you remember how the world and your imagination were joined 'differently' than today. We have so many byast that it is hard for us to relate now with all our soft living. It wasn't religion, that is modern cultural dogma, they were exploring the frontiers of earth and mind.

[@lokchucklindryfry94]

i think a lot of us take the modern age technological advancements for granted because of how influential they have been on our lives to the point of shaping how we perceive the world. this means people are susceptible to look at historical technology in a condescending perspective (unconsciously) not being charitable enough to assume that ancient people are capable of building such ancient technology. it is an interesting behavior shown by our fellow people.

[@sociallyferal4237]

Yeah - it reminds me of Victorian attitudes to the 'barbarians' of Africa and other tribal nations. Needing to be saved because they are not as enlightened. Rather than people acknowledging we all have the same brains, that ancient people could work stuff out and become masters in using the tools and techniques they have to use. Look at people doing ice sculptures with chainsaws. I wouldn't believe that was possible if I hadn't seen videos on it. . . But I agree with your bias. People just think pre-history is full of stereo typical Neanderthal types until sudden industrial revolution. . . Not people learning, growing and making the knowledge we work off today. Heck - if something happened to technology - how many of the day to day things people take for granted can we continue to make.? How many people will be able to make toilet paper when we just run the machines that make our stuff. . .

[@lokchucklindryfry94]

@@sociallyferal4237 exactly, industrial revolution has changed our lives so much that we forgot that it takes gradual process to build a technology. It presumably took years to build a pyramid but its more easier to dismiss that notion and just presume that its impossible to build such a thing without something as advanced or even more than modern technology. Its a matter of how are attitude is towards the ancient world, hence its a bigger vindication that we understand more about ancient worlds because we know so little.

[@mnomadvfx]

@@sociallyferal4237 Well, yes but no. The excuse was a charitable saving of the barbarians from themselves. The reality was exploitation of the resources of those nations and the populace to work them. Africa wasn't perfect when Europe returned to it - but it was in a far better place than it was when the various colonizing European states left those nations to their own devices within the last century. Point of fact the hunting of elephants and rhinos for their ivory used to be a somewhat tribal right of passage - and the coming of European colonizers turned it into a trade responsible for the extinction of some and the critically endangered state of others. We are quite easily indentifiable as the savages in this scenario.

[@mnomadvfx]

@@nanoglitch6693 "This is actually the opposite of the perspective of the people that were found to be living amongst these ruins" Why assume that just because they live there that they have any accurate knowledge of those who came before? I live in England. Does that mean I somehow know everything pertinent about the Romans that once occupied the British Isles? About the Vikings? Even about the Anglo Saxons for whom England is named? Let alone about the Celtic and Druidic peoples that dominated before the Roman occupation? Of course not - you should acquire a bit of basic common sense before "exerting your uneducated assumptions until you actually know about some of this". There are places all over the world that have suffered various invasions and occupations which have diluted any history which was not lost simply from a lack of writing it down - assuming that a later invader did not simply destroy written historical records as the Catholic priests accompanying the conquistadors did in South America.

[@CraftsmanOfAwsomenes]

One thing I find people are very presentist about in this regard is patience. Just because they're used to a certain thing being done in X amount of time, they assume it was impossible that something that could have been done in a period-appropriate fashion was done that way just because... it would take a long time.

[@Akkordeondirigent]

I'm now a teacher for various subjects, of wich I all enjoy very much, at Highschool in Lower Saxonia; didn't plan or forsaw it but am very glad that my career developed this way. One of this subjects is history. Every new class I start with a timeline of humanity starting 300,000 years ago wich I draw on the blackboard. My students are always impressed about the fact how little of that is known history. There is always an engaged debate about the question why it took so long to build our civilisations and our technology. When I present how much we in fact know about the climate, the fauna, the population of different human species it never fails to be sufficient and convincing as an explanation. I myself am awestruck by the depth of time (and space) and hope I'm doing a good enough job in teaching facts not fiction. Sadly we rarely have time for antiquity. But for my private education I enjoy your work very much!

[@swintondavid]

Great video! Thank you for sharing this.

[@TheEricthefruitbat]

I want to note that the comet impact hypothesis has nothing to do with ancient advanced civilizations. Some people do try to tie it in to AAC theories, but it is completely independent. It is really more of a planetary science thing. I know that Dr. Miano isn't linking the YDIH with AAC generally, just pointing out that some people are trying to do that.

[@MrAchile13]

@@nanoglitch6693 Logically speaking, the impact hypothesis cannot be used as an argument. All those who do, are committing a logical fallacy.

[@swirvinbirds1971]

The problem becomes when you look at who is behind the bulk of the YDIH is in fact the same people pushing an ancient high tech lost civilization or at least tie themselves to such in their own work.

[@TheEricthefruitbat]

My point is that the two ideas exist independently of each other. People try to put them together for other purposes, but neither exists to serve the other. Further, the scientists who investigate the YDIH aren't doing it to support any AAC ideas. The geologists and chemists and planetary scientists studied physical geological and chemical evidence in the ground to support the conclusion that there was an impact around the time of the YD. Other people took that conclusion the same way they take any scientific result they don't fully comprehend in order to create support for their fringe ideas. Having said that, any real historian or scientist will look for ways new information affects our view of the world, and update the existing theories. It would be extremely unlikely for something to upset our beliefs in a way that calls for the complete rewrite of the existing worldview.

[@dakrisis]

@@TheEricthefruitbat yes, they are separate topics. Nonetheless, the two are linked by the AAC crowd themselves. They also do their own research on the subject and as Dr. Miano pointed out even got to peer review where it didn't exactly achieve consensus. They are looking for an extinction event, which would be the right course of action if there was any evidence for an AAC being wiped out around that time. Funnily enough, their research was funded by a creationist university. Guess that crowd is also interested in some hot ancient stories of reset. I mean, they are so desperate they would be willing to trade God for aliens if it could be proven.

[@y23b6]

Thank you for making videos on this topic. Like many, I was quick to become fascinated with the idea of an advanced ancient civilisation. But while all the theorising and speculation made me very curious, I wanted to know whether or not there was any actual, undeniable evidence to the existence of such a civilisation, even if it was just a small number of things, or even just one instance of proof that could not be explained any other way. Your channel takes on that angle, looking at proposed evidence in good faith, but with a much needed critical approach.

[@stevene9785]

Yes there is evidence in the form of more and more ancient archeological finds that are pushing humanity further and further back in time. Recently there have been some finds pushing that date back to 2.2 million years. As incredible as this is, it is in fact true. So this goes along with what the ancient civilization group theorizes. Some of these structures were built long before the Egyptians and there is no doubt that the Egyptians worked on top of an already existing structure of some type. It is about the same as the Romans built on top of Baalbek. As always some folks HAVE to claim, NO, we built it just like some folks had to insist that the sun revolved around the Earth.

[@misterbrady100]

Good video. I appreciate that you focus on the evidence. I think people are capable of amazing things given enough planning, resources, and time.

[@DJDrinks]

Great video, David. Very well explained and reasoned.

[@lordofpain3476]

I honestly believe that the stone work done by our ancient ancestors was so remarkable is because they actually cared about their work and actually took pride in it , unlike the majority of people today that look down on jobs that require actual physical labor . The ancients were masters of stone working .

[@julietfischer5056]

They didn't have machines to make things easier, which is why so many essential skills are now disparaged. That pile of bricks for sale at Lowe's came out of a factory full of machines: a few centuries ago, manual labor mixed and poured the clay into molds, then more manual labor transported the air-dried bricks to the kiln, where more laborers kept up the fire until they were baked. That took longer. The people of the past knew tricks we've forgotten because they had to.

[@marcusmaynard1526]

“Pride” and “care” do not result in perfectly geometric shapes that align with mathematical perfection to astronomical pattern. I’m my opinion, at least.

[@emartinezr]

Pride and care do not allow you to quarty and carry 70 ton perfectly carved ultra hard stone, to place it with surgical precision at a height higher than the Statue of Liberty in a building we have no real explanation for. While at the same time showing thousands of equally amazing works. Pride and care can help you do 1 or a few of such items. Not thousands of amazing precision. Thousands, at such precision... is more industry than it is artistry.

[@hartmutholzgraefe]

@@emartinezr if you're referring to the Giza pyramids: most of the stones they were built from were not of the "ultra hard" kind, granite was only used for the burial chambers and a few corridor linings and blocking stones, the rest of it was mostly made of rather soft lime stone, and for the parts not visible from the outside or the interior corridors they didn't go for "surgical precision" either, quite the contrary actually.

[@kyllerbuzcut]

@@hartmutholzgraefe actually the massive granite blocks in the inner chambers of the great pyramid are a mystery. Blocks of 80tonnes, transported 900km, and then aligned together, and also in conjunction with other blocks as the structure was being built, so that corridors and shafts would perfectly align. Not so blocks were the same size either.... This actually makes it harder to make the whole thing align, got together, and create the whole structure. The only thing we know about how they were built, is that the best theories on how they were built are completely bogus.

[@CGJUGO80]

Even if a lot of people don’t agree with you, we must appreciate the "..yet" you added at the end of the video title. You didn’t need to add that. It makes you appear much more sincere and open minded. Thank you and stay well Mr. Antiquity.

[@bubuawon4923]

I really enjoyed watching your videos please keep them going. Thank you

[@aaronlewis702]

These guys are consistently carrying out the fun activity of identifying patterns, with just enough research so they can feel smart but not enough to get bored, and coming up with great stories. And then getting paid millions of dollars to do so whilst earning the undying adulation of many. A part of me is kind of jealous to be honest. The lack of videos such as this great one where their terrible arguments are methodically debunked by anyone with an academic background or at least a somewhat cynicial mind is kind of mind boggling. Thanks for the video!

[@TheVaged]

Ah yes, pattern recognition, a known folly of idiots.

[@ossiedunstan4419]

Not me i feel sorry for these KZbin fakers. I consider channels like this to anti education and should be illegal and the owners assets sold and the money put back into the education system to counter the rubbish this channel posts. I will even go as far as saying channels like this and religious channels are child abuse on global scale.

[@spiritualanarchist8162]

Well said. These people make lots of money and are being taken seriously by millions on Joe Rogan & Netflix viewers. So hundreds of grifters copy the same nonsense .Now there are thousands of lazy channels & tik tokers makin stupid claims to get those juicy views & likes.

[@samlynn1652]

It would be fun to hear what are the positions/beliefs that you have had to alter in the past and what evidence caused those changes.

[@stevoplex]

Excellent. Thanque for the wisdom and clarity.

[@ellenmendoza7246]

A voice of sanity. It's make me happy listening to you. I do try to explain to people. the same things your talking about but it's difficult. When most people understand very little about history or science .

[@jsoth2675]

Kurzgesagt has a video entitled Are there lost alien civilizations in our... Your opinion on the subject matter would be awesome to hear, and the video is only 11 minutes long. As always, quality content on a top tier channel. Thank you for your time Dr.Miano.

[@jamesfork6081]

The problem is that everyone rushes to make a "discovery" for their own personal motives, monetary gains and the sort. Most of the proponents of these theories have spent ZERO days in the field and some have ZERO expertises in what they are talking about. They spent most of the times giving interviews while scientists are digging trenches and analysing artefacts up close using the scientific method. Freedom of speech is one thing but not all opinions are equal. Educators like yourself should make it clear to students/audience on what it takes in terms of actual work before you can open your mouth and talk about a scientific field. I hope that credible theories do not receive less funding because of how popular these alternative theories have become with the mainstream.

[@Spectre-wd9dl]

Your ignorance is showing.

[@Saugaverse]

Well, anyone can make a claim about something, but in the end, they will be asked to "Prove it". While new hypnosis always sound exciting and cool, there has to be some kinda proof that these new ideas are valid. So until someone produces even a little evidence that some as of yet unknown civilization once existed, the claim is just that, an unproven theory.

[@justinarzola5782]

Yeah they lack any prior knowledge and make assumptions out a bias or misunderstanding.

[@danandyumi]

This was awesome. Thank you!

[@jsoth2675]

It's been great to watch this channel grow.

[@brentaustin9418]

Great stuff David. Yes, I wonder about flood myths and the Black Sea inundation argument in the 6th millennium...there were some impressive settlements going on already in this time frame...wonder if any were on the coast of a giant freshwater lake at the time the Mediterranean came to visit the basin...

[@szymonbaranowski8184]

when I saw historical geographic changes of that region it really got my attention it for sure created Indoeuropean creation myths Slavs much later on were choosing to settle on islands surrounded by water or swamps it was a religious custom not only practicality

[@ModernPracticalStonemason]

I love how you articulate everything around measurements and weight. I’m an experienced stonemason, I can literally move a half ton stone with nothing more than a trowel. I saw once something about how we can’t get something within a certain point of a degree to the square even today yet they managed it with the pyramids as if it’s mega difficult to get square. All it takes is a straight edge and a compass to bisect a line to make a square within said tolerance. These guys prey on the uneducated and/or gullible to believe their own narratives. We learnt in the first month of college what half of these guys are preaching is insanely difficult. You only need to look at the cathedrals of Europe, which I can assure you are a far greater technical feat than a pyramid regardless of when they were built

[@jrileycain6220]

I'm enjoying all your videos! How about some info on Cohokia mound cultures?

[@Faelani38]

A great vid. Thank you.

[@brianmsahin]

Excellent video. I remember, before my round the world backpacking trip in 2003 and 2004 reading about the precise and incredibly accurate "moulded" stone blocks of the ancient Inca and in particular a surviving wall in Cusco that was so well built something as thin as a credit card could not fit between the stones. Firstly a credit card isn't that thin so not being able to fit one in doesn't really point to high precision. However I was disappointed when I discovered at many points along said wall, I could indeed comfortably fit a credit card in! The meaning of high precision seems to be very subjective amongst pseudo archaeologists.

[@jamisojo]

Yeah, I find that example a code word for someone who doesn't know what they're talking about. 😁

[@brianmsahin]

@@jamisojo Yes indeed! You got that right! 😁

[@jellyrollthunder3625]

​@@jamisojo I've subconsciously been doing that exact same appraisal every time I hear the overstated significance of this "I couldn't slide a (insert thin object here) between some blocks" trope, though mine was in the form of a non-verbal eyeroll every time I heard that regurgitation of this beloved, yet increasingly underwhelming platitude (wasn't it originally a razor blade?) from atop the pseudo-skeptic's greatest hits of uncritically parroted conspiracy hymns and pointless experiments, but you just articulated it for me more concisely

[@jamescromer550]

I mostly enjoy your videos, including this one. I would enjoy seeing you do a comparison of the polygonal stonework from the different continents. Unfortunately the only videos I find on it are by the usual cast of characters. It fascinates me and others because it is so unique and certainly seems to be a distinct "style" that spans continents. It's not just stacking rocks, it is a very deliberate effort that also seems to leave a signature of some lost culture. Another big question I have regards the claims that evidence of tobacco and cocoa leaf use has been found in the tissues of mummies in Egypt. Both are New World plants. Would love to see you do videos on these.

[@DakiniDream]

While the mummy thing is intriguing, the test was all made on old mummies that was around for long in privat collections, then came to the museum. Contamination is a big issue when doing such analyses. Without finds on "new found mummies it's hard to tell this a truth. Also the used mummies are no more allowed to get new further analyses... so. For example tabacco was used a time to preserve mummies, the cocaine is an other problem, but it was largely used end 19th, and beginning 20th, without problems, so again, contamination is a hight possibility.

[@jamescromer550]

@@DakiniDream he did a video about the mummies, and it's excellent. Addresses everything in detail. You'll find it in his video list. 👍

[@DakiniDream]

@@jamescromer550 he ? - i have read a full paper recently on Academia treating about these mummies, there was enought controversies about them and the analysis, but like said, without further analyses on them, and new cases found on other more recently found mummies, we will never be able to tell.

[@tgw2]

Great video. Much more logic presented than what can be found in videos claiming the existence of advanced ancient civilizations. Since the human life span was so short back then it's amazing what people in their teens and twenties accomplished but not impossible

[@ericcostabir8318]

Maybe we should take a page from their book? Get inflation from experienced elders, but yet the younger generation take the lead.

[@shaolin1derpalm]

Great vid. Subscribed

[@WorldofAntiquity]

Thanks and welcome!

[@thhseeking]

"Advanced civilisations were on the coast". But, as you said, people settled near supplies of fresh water. Paris, Brussels, Berlin, Warsaw, Vienna, Munich, Prague, Kyiv...they're inland. Are they not part of our "advanced" civilisation? I grew out of von Daniken and his ilk. Obviously, others didn't.

[@welcometonebalia]

Great video as usual. But, as usual also, the comments section can be very depressing... I for one wouldn't have the courage and commitment to go on with this battle, I would certainly feel helpless. Which makes me want to thank you even more, I guess. And give a pat on the shoulder.

[@michaelfraker6302]

This is a great vid!

[@matsinkal]

This channel is amazing some of the best content being made on you tube. :)

[@WorldofAntiquity]

Wow, thanks!

[@JohnnyArtPavlou]

I find this channel to be a big relief. Does it contain the whole truth? No. And it doesn’t claim to. It’s just a big vote in a big voice in the direction of logic and rationality. The wonderful thing that it does is to put me in the position of really marveling at what mankind has been able to accomplish using brain power and manpower.

[@FonzieKree]

As measurement lab worker I would also like like to add: did they used up to date calibrated and certified tools? Are they trained in proper use of precision measurement tools - like letting tool to get acclimated to surrounding and than recalibrate with etalon? Were those tools properly stored or did they had them in backpack while riding jeep through rocky landscape?

[@WorldofAntiquity]

Good points.

[@JB-fp3fb]

The excitement on David's face in that "Conclusion" section is so infectious, and I totally see why. Discovering ancient lost settlements and cultures is still unbelievably cool without needing to be wrapped up in an extra layer of Atlantean magic-like fantasy.

[@timcarbone007]

Great video!

[@pabloa2228]

I think major changes in society like the fall of the Bronze Age, impacted a lot of the myth stories that today people associate with things like Atlantis. I mean if I was an Athenian in 400 BCE, I would have been in awe of the stories of Minoan civilizations 1000 years earlier.

[@Spectre-wd9dl]

Thr bronze age didn't fall. It moved on to the iron age. What fell was th structure of society.

[@floridaman4073]

@@Spectre-wd9dl , much like society shifts today when technology advancements upend the social order.

[@speedwagon1824]

@@floridaman4073 it wasn't technological advancements that caused the bronze Age collapse

[@julietfischer5056]

@@speedwagon1824- There were some Bronze Age civilizations that fell out of power, but the era itself didn't fall apart. People outside of those civilizations still used bronze and had many of the same skills: the problems would have been obtaining resources and labor.

[@jamisojo]

@@speedwagon1824 the "bronze age collapse" wasn't the fall of the bronze age. The first is the name given to a bunch of people moving around and attacking some of the major cities at the time in a certain area. The bronze age is just an era that has a different time frame all over the world for when people were using bronze, before they widely used iron.

[@MediaFaust]

I recently learned that there were burnt limestone mortar based terrazzo floors in the Tepes -- Göbleki and Karahan -- plus a few other sites with Turkish names that I am unable to verbalize. That's pretty impressive for a pre-pottery culture. There was an image of a doorway in your video, from some Indian (artificial) caves whose name I can't remember, but their extreme precision is awesome, and often cited as "proof of concept" for an ancient advanced civilization. However, I am unable to imagine what kind of technology that could have been used manufacture the glass polished surfaces, etc. All I can see is a gruelling amount of hand work that must have required an even more gruelling amount of planning, for no obvious reason, so I associate it with Indian philosophy -- hermits, yogis, sadhus, that sort of thing -- who venerated the simplicity of mathematical form manifest in art work. It seems to me that the concept of "primitive tools" is based in a fundamental misunderstanding of stone work. Generally speaking, there's nothing a machine can do that the hand can't do by far better. It only takes more time and effort.

[@beurksman]

Plastered floors have been made since the stone age and precision doesn't prove anything

[@mnomadvfx]

"I am unable to imagine what kind of technology that could have been used manufacture the glass polished surfaces" A standard circular sanding/polishing power tool could polish it up a treat for sure - but as you say there is nothing a machine could do that human hands cannot do given the appropriate skill, time, effort and engineering knowledge. That being said it does not preclude the use of some kind of power tool relying on a source of energy other than electricity such as diverted water driving a wheel and machinery, or some other kind of similar machinery based on harnessing a windmill to do much the same. Obviously such machines would not easily be made viable inside a cave, but for the works on the Old Kingdom ancient Egyptian pyramids it does bare consideration at least.

[@robertbrennan2268]

Check out the polished jade axes of the Neolithic in NW Europe. These were sourced from a specific quarry in the Alps and distributed as probably high status, sacred items (from a beautiful Alpine mountain top where divinities dwell) across NW Europe. They are cut out (with wood wedges and antler picks) and polished for hours at a time until they are shiny and smooth and incredibly beautiful. Archaeology has been mapping their distribution across France, Rhineland, the British Isles, Ireland. These are hand made precision objects of great beauty! They precede the introduction of metallurgy. They were made by skilled Neolithic craftsmen.

[@MediaFaust]

@@mnomadvfx Sorry about that, I see now that my comment was misleading. Polishing a surface is of course possible with a range of various tools, what I meant to say is that it's hard to imagine what power tools that could have been used to create the spaces (lest you want to go down the "magical" rabbit hole).

[@MediaFaust]

@@beurksman "Stone age" isn't a very precise time denomination. The Tepes can be said to be late Mesolithic or early Neolithic, depending on what definition you prefer, but either way I am more impressed by the plaster than by the rock carvings. Professionally speaking I am a pensioner now but I used to be a stone mason so on account of that I'm particularly interested in ancient historical (and pre-historical) stone work.

[@maynk7096]

Absolute gem of a video. Putting rational and scientific arguments would always help the field positively.

[@irinka_katlova]

I just found your channel and I've been binge-watching it. I'm so grateful for your videos debunking these myths. I used to believe them but my logic is running in the background of my mind. Again, thank you!

[@bchristian85]

Thanks for posting this content. I love ancient history and speculation about what could have existed in the distant past that we haven't discovered yet, and am loving this fact and evidence-based analysis of it.

[@MossyMozart]

@bchristian85 - Dr Miano is also EXCELLENT at identifying and correcting logical fallacies.

[@TheMraksmith]

Great work there!

[@jamestnov41945]

Great episode thank you.

[@DocBree13]

I don’t like this video, I love it. Dr. Miano, this was the most thorough, interesting, and non-condescending “lost ancient civilizations” debunking video I’ve ever seen. You included excellent points alive never heard or even thought about before, and I’m certain it will stimulate some productive discussions and critical thinking about this often decisive topic. Thank you for all you do!

[@WorldofAntiquity]

Glad you enjoyed it, Brenda!

[@DocBree13]

@@WorldofAntiquity thanks! :)

[@decentralizeddemocracy8335]

​@@WorldofAntiquityhave you seen Ben of UnchartedX? He is doing precision measurements and publishing 3d scans of ancient artifacts.

[@WorldofAntiquity]

@@decentralizeddemocracy8335 I've got a video on this coming out in the next day or two.

[@Gabriel2oh6]

Yeah, I love this fair and analytical style of rebuttal. Non-condescending is very important. Thats also why I love Stefan Milo’s videos on the subject. When I was briefly brainwashed by Graham Hancock for a few days, I’d come across videos that felt very condescending and “looking down their nose at you” and it would put me off. God I was stupid for letting what turned out to be pseudoscience actually convince me. I always laughed at people who believed in psychics, astrology, and homeopathy. I always envisioned myself to be beyond that stuff. I actually thought Graham Hancock was an expert historian and archaeologist until I decided to Google him beyond what I’ve seen from uncontested one-sided KZbin shorts. It’s the biggest lesson for me to learn to never turn off the skeptic in my head. Edit: And my god, I had no idea Graham Hancock argued the ancients used telekinesis to move blocks. Holy shit. I’m now even more embarrassed for falling for him.

[@mythosboy]

I think this channel is definitely underselling how stairs ~had to be~ developed once and then hyper- diffused out to the rest of the world. Maybe from the Azores, or maybe Mars or something. Because stairs are simply too weirdly peculiar to have been invented more than once, by disparate cultures over long swaths of time. Stands to reason. And yeah, from blond or red haired master craftsmen, of course. Because of... reasons. Sarcasm filter "off". New subscriber btw. Love the channel, please keep up this indispensable work.

[@carlosdiaz2688]

Petra is a good lost civilization They don’t have a clue .. These Miles of tombs ...in a desert Need a lot of water to carve up so much Thirsty work .. But some tribe of Merchants or Rich traders just built Thousands of Houses of Stone Inyo Mountains.. Can we solve that one Then go on from there Other wise we’re just playing around

[@carlosdiaz2688]

Petra is there now ... Why are these realities not admitted We don’t know s damm thing about it If the Romans didn’t know about it Then it is a lost civilization.. They would have found it Known .. Somebody would have Told them the architecture Looks like Roman but not Roman Who invented them the Greeks Who else .. How could it not be Known till recent times..The civilization in Turkey the temple of Jupiter .thats lost in plain sight The Romans again ?

[@M1ggins]

@@carlosdiaz2688 lol, there's lots on Petra.

[@mobiusII]

I don't agree that the invention of stairs independently in different regions at different times 'defies logic'. The simplest way to facilitate moving up a grade would be an inclined plane or ramp. The problem is, the steeper the incline, the more readily one could slip and fall while attempting to walk up it. It would seem intuitive to place ridges at the approximate distance of the average footstep to help facilitate safe climbing, which would have evolved over time into the steps that we are familiar with today. You can see this precursor today on nature trails where there is a steep grade and logs are placed across the trail at intervals to prevent erosion and ease walking up the trail.

[@szymonbaranowski8184]

we have divine blood without any need for made up stories to prove that but it got dirtier since normally it was spreading everywhere and growing in numbers rapidly when food supply was increasing but maybe we aren't eating real food anymore it would explain a lot

[@Lemurion287]

I especially liked your conclusion. I find it incredibly easy to believe in "advanced" cultures that predate most or all known ones; but I also use "advanced" in the same context you do.

[@tgsriram6149]

Love your logical analysis in every one of your videos!

[@stevefaure415]

Just a great video. I know I'm not alone in really appreciating the knowledge and insight you share with us. I feel like I'm getting a free education and actually enjoying it. So again, well done.

[@TaeSunWoo]

Me: (watches this and also Bright Insight)

[@lericherf6219]

Great video.

[@rubenducheny2788]

Love the logical fresh air! Thanks.

[@douglasphillips5870]

Ancient societies had different building techniques that appear incredible to modern observers because those techniques were lost as technology changed. Even between different ancient societies there are different techniques needed, for example when the labor is man power or beast power, and this can give different resulting structures.

[@GregUtz98]

I like to think that it might be possible that there were ancient advanced civilizations. However, I also understand that they are most likely confined to the realm of stories and legends.

[@mistermonsieur2924]

We have developed almost all modern science in a few hundred years. If just the higher tech aspects stopped now, certain elements would be stories in a few hundred years and pure legends in about a thousand. Name one person you know that can manufacture a cell phone despite knowing all about one... Or better yet just imagine the circle of people in your life and ask yourself honestly which ones can even live without the modern grid.

[@andrewmarsjr9879]

YOUR AN AWESOME TEACHER IM GLAD AND EXCITED I FOUND THIS CHANNEL!!!!

[@mikepowell2776]

I always enjoy your videos which bring a measure of that valuable commodity common sense to an argument. Regarding misinformation (or, perhaps, misinterpretation) there was the case of 3 sets of humanoid footprints found in (then) Tanganyika during the early 19660s. They were considered by one commentator to be those of a family group and stretched for about 400 yards. He added that they were not tool-users as no tools had been found in association with the tracks. Actually, all that indicates is that, if they did possess tools, they could walk a quarter mile without dropping them. Regarding manufacturing accuracy with ‘crude’ tools, I have a slate disc of diameter approximately 25 cm. I have measured it’s diameter at 5 degree intervals and the variation is less than half of one percent. It was measured and scribed on a rough, rectangular blank using a stone scribes attached to a leather strap with the free end held under the maker’s thumb. The surrounding material was then gradually chipped away using a beach pebble. I know this because I watched it being done. Keep up the good work.

[@thirdpupil]

The Vincan civilization has an undeciphered writing system older than the Sumerian script. Would love to see you do a video on them.

[@joewilliams4153]

Think you might be wrong here the Incan civilisation started like 4,000 years later than the Sumerian civilisation did

[@p.mrtynjy]

@@joewilliams4153 Think you might need to read the original comment again he said Vincan not Incan look up the Vinca culture in Europe their prime was around 6500 BC

[@herbertthepervert9129]

@@p.mrtynjy wrong, the neolithic culture was around 5k and 4k years ago

[@Foogi9000]

@@joewilliams4153 Do you mean the Caral-Supe civilization? the Inca weren't that old and many civilizations came before them. It's also very likely that the Caral-Supe civilization had some form of proto-writing.

[@teajay8769]

I appreciate you tenacious little heel biters. This is interesting and I'll enjoy digging into it later.

[@karanseraph]

I've been following the theories of Ancient Astronauts, Lost Civilizations, and Ancient High Technology for a while. Even from the start, I didn't literally believe most of it, but I did find some of it interesting or entertaining. But in time, I grew frustrated, because it seemed like some parties weren't even trying to find the truth but just making stuff up. Like, that one guy - some know - who used to point out everything circular as a space helmet. The theories have shifted over time. I mean back in the space age it was more focused on ancient flying chariots and astronauts. Then in information age it's seemed to shift to academic cover-ups are to blame. (In part this was true, but not often in the extent suggested.) Now when modern people are focused on issues like climate change, the theories about the past focus on ancient climate change caused by cataclysms. So, the theories of the past, especially fringe ones, seem to be a mirror of our present and speak to what we are concerned with in our age. For example, there is and was in the past bigotry and racial bias and that led to Euro-centric academics and theorists buying into the linear progressive view of history in which the more ancient peoples must be more primitive even - disparagingly - "savages". This has meant that when artifacts that exhibit human craft and cleverness and engineering are found "the primitives" can't have made it, thus these aliens and dynastic races appear to be advanced and do things primitives that must exist in the past can't. But that's like the bigoted bandage on the bigoted worldview. We should have just been declaring that ancient peoples were not "primitive" in the sense often applied. They had *different* technologies, including different ways of thinking and communicating, but were physically and mentally just like us today. They had their own geniuses and their own average people. They could adapt and problem solve. And I am certain some people who are into the idea of ancient civilizations do understand this. Their "lost civilization" was only lost in the sense that it wasn't being perceived and acknowledged. Like, when we were *not* taught that any Native Americans had cities due to various political and racial biases. But they had cities and towns and monuments and trade and astronomy, etc. But there are also those who make claims of "lost ancient high technology" which confusingly seem to be saying that clever feats of engineering and craft were accomplished in the past but that because they were told it was a primitive time with primitive people then it must mean that they somehow had access to advanced tools or technologies. And it's not always clear from one theorist to the next whether they are thinking the people were also more advanced than previously taught (true in cases where the linear progression was formerly asserted to exist) or whether they are just replacing the "dynastic race" or "aliens" concept with "a more ancient people from before an apocalypse". Surely humans did survive some climate changes and disasters. Not sure we *need* an ancient civilization to understand rise and fall of various cultures over time as events made it necessary to adapt. But we probably should acknowledge that people in ancient times whether 2000 or 10000 or 40000 years ago were people with their own intelligence and creativity and weren't necessarily any more "savages" than we are right now.

[@hydrolito]

Halo sort of represent sun and some images they claimed were flying saucers also represented the sun.

[@DavidFMayerPhD]

Excellent five star response: ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

[@szymonbaranowski8184]

they were more capable because they ate real food especially before inventing farming and consuming inhumane food

[@juliamontalvo9717]

Thank you I've always had my doubts when they talk about these ancient findings.

[@lokkichiam5733]

Another great video! Thanks so much 🙏 Reeealy hope you could make a comparison video of ancient cultures from the Bronze Age and the world’s first trading networks 😊 that are currently known of 😉 Thanks again, you’re a great teacher!

[@beeg693]

I just watched a video that showed how a hole was "drilled" in granite. I think they were from Indonesia??? It wasn't done with a drill bit, but with a dull chisel and two workers. One handles the chisel (rotating it with each strike) and the other handles the sledge hammer. They work as a team and crush the granite. They remove the pulverized granite dust out of the hole and continue. They couldn't "drill" all the way through, so they flipped it and matched the hole from the other side. I was totally impressed. I never thought to crush granite to make a hole." It is not in my experience " as you said. I am use to drill bits. Anyway this project is to hang a granite bell in Hawaii.... I believe.... it might be for a temple complex?? I am not sure. I just thought I would share.

[@WorldofAntiquity]

What's the title of the video?

[@beeg693]

@@WorldofAntiquity I watch the video within the last week or so. It is titled, "Stone Bell Hole Drilling," it was actually made 13 years ago. It was work done for an Iraivan Temple for Kauai's Hindu Monastery. I think you'll like it...... it is granite. Best regards.

[@AveragePicker]

@@beeg693 Man, I watched that ages ago and haven't been able to remember or find it since. lol thanks.

[@beeg693]

@@AveragePicker man, you're very welcome. I am glad I could assist....

[@dbfi01]

Lucky students.. You are EXACTLY the kind of teacher any student should have!!! You know, you alter, you adapt, you teach... Your classes must be very VERY interesting. Thank you for posting your knowledge on the internet, so that old farts like me, can gain what knowledge you have and teach!

[@1v1rajang85]

Great video, I think it’s always important to have both sides of the evidence shown in a proper professional manner. With no toxic debates, this can help spread knowledge the right way, once again, great video.

[@deancooper7043]

Good work.

[@zoomedout]

Great video

[@waveygravey3575]

I never understood the Ancient Technology conspiracy, if it was true what would it change?

[@BigDaddy-vr2ut]

It would make the Bible correct

[@andybeans5790]

Unfortunately some of the conspiracies are motivated by bigotry, assumptions that certain civilisations were too primitive to have created monolithic artifacts.

[@waveygravey3575]

@@BigDaddy-vr2ut How?

[@georgethompson1460]

@@waveygravey3575 it would implicate the space Hebrews

[@waveygravey3575]

@@andybeans5790 Judging by the comment from George, yeah I think you are right.

[@edgarsnake2857]

I've watched this a few times now. It's a remarkable video and presentation by the good Professor; a sober overview of a complex topic. Thanks to David for this engaging summation.

[@svenhoek]

This is one of my favorite channels

[@MsGloomyOwl]

It is really great to have someone with a scientific background speaking about this topic here on yt. I think it is really important to pass knowledge in a digestible way, as you do. Thank you for doing it. There is one good thing about those alternative theories, they draw the attention of average people, who have never had a chance to study this topic in detail at school. As a result they extend their knowledge even when they start with alternative views. Just by watching content with people travelling to ancient sites it is very educational. I also think questions like “did aliens (helped to) build it” or “did Atlantis exist?” are legit questions to ask. Because there is a chance that it might have happened - for now not really a big chance, but that chance exists. And I think it should not be ridiculed because "we are all astronauts on Spaceship called Earth" who are exploring this world and still have tons to learn.

[@grievus7764]

Outstanding work once again. I really appreciate how concise and eloquent this is. Much alternate history or pseudoarchaeology is so ponderous and schizophrenic in its reasoning and sometimes I think purposely so, that any counter argument is forced into being the same level of ponderous and schizophrenic. Or maybe it’s just an easy intellectual pratfall.

[@secondcomingofbast9908]

You're doing a great work which I believe is a much needed public service. It's amazing how many people believe nonsense just because it seems fun and exciting. Keep shining the light of reality.

[@MrDukeOmega]

Don’t call me Shirley!!! 😂😂😂😂

[@tomc.1587]

I don't care if it's lost or not. I just want to know how they did it. How did they transport the stones, especially so fast . How did they cut them and lift them. Don't care about conspiracies

[@stevene9785]

Don't expect our historian host to even attempt to answer your questions. This is what people with a hidden agenda do.

[@chiznowtch]

Lots if videos out there showing methods of moving big rocks that don't involve spaceships

[@danjtrudeau]

"There are pyramids here and pyraminds there. It can't be a coincidence!" It's not. It's a really stable way to build something with ancient tools and resources.

[@stevene9785]

Absolutely! ... and while we're building this lets make the 13 acre foundation perfect to 1/2 on one inch level. Mind as well line it up near perfect to cardinal points. How about we make some line up to winter/summer solstice? Here's another good idea, let's use 2 ton stones because they are so easy to excavate and transport. The only think left is to decide how many bedrooms to install. Never mind, let's just make one room and just bury people in it. Woah that's one hell of a tomb stone.

[@jamisojo]

@@stevene9785 I would love to see evidence of the precision that you claim. That being said, I think I could pull a string tight to create a very straight line. Or, I could have someone put up markers between two points I'm staring at. That would also be a straight line. You didn't use the often quoted "can't fit a piece of paper or a credit card between those blocks" argument? Could that be due to everyday people walking up and sticking anything and everything between the blocks? 😉

[@stevene9785]

@@jamisojo "That being said, I think I could pull a string tight to create a very straight line." Across 13 acres? LOL You think that because you do not understand engineering. They probably used a laser level to achieve a straight line over that distance. lol

[@Bingobanana4789]

Yeah those ancient tools that helped lift 70 tonne blocks of granite over 200 ft in the air. Those ancient tools must have come in handy

[@Bingobanana4789]

@@jamisojoyour an embarrassment asking for the evidence of the pyramids alignment. Take your head for a wobble

[@Aaron751]

Well made and thought out video. I still have questions. In addition to preciseness and weight, I would argue, hardness (of the stone) is also a factor. The same general measurments and observations you point to to disprove advanced civilizations are also used conversely to prove the peoples were able to perform the astounding feats we know were achieved. While watching, I think about items such as the Antikythera Mechanism that is clearly either mis dated or a strong argument for advanced knowledge. Looking forward to seeing more from you here.

[@WorldofAntiquity]

*In addition to preciseness and weight, I would argue, hardness (of the stone) is also a factor.* As long as you have a stone just as tough, it's not an issue. *While watching, I think about items such as the Antikythera Mechanism that is clearly either mis dated or a strong argument for advanced knowledge. Looking forward to seeing more from you here.* kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5W5l2Wbf92Wjrc

[@emartinezr]

You say "it's not an issue" yet there's been ZERO evidence of any other civilization matching such accuracy AND quantity of work on such materials. Even modern, current civilizations. A single-piece perfectly crafted box is impossibly difficult to do without "technology". When you factor the quantity of items made, the insane precision, the hardness and challenges of working with such "composite" materials and on top of that, the logistical challenge to mine and haul such items..... that is clearly not "craft". That is industry.

[@erinmcgraw5208]

You are a superb teacher Dr Miano! 💙

[@puliturchannel7225]

I'm however interested about what homo sapiens sapiens did before the ice age, did they have advanced stone age cultures or were they just retarted many tens of thousands of years in a row... However, the stonemasonry, and carving stuff from bone, making clothes etc. are not unadvanced technologies in my opinion, they are quite comparable to aztecs actually, and such cultures wouldn't have survived well archaelogically, not from an ice age. Also I think the first cultures where we have written records etc. didn't come suddenly out of nowhere, although it seems like that from history books. Culture that preceded Egypt as we know it wasn't a group of cave men. So yes, definetely we have lost lot of knowledge about our past before and during the ice age, perhaps even missed some steps in technology, but as we have no archeological or written proofs of it (except for Plato's Atlantis which is far from proven) we can't call that our history. People that go on about how we should do something other than "mainstream archaeology" seem to have big problems understanding this fact. That you can't invent history or base it on unproven theories. That the whole consept of history is that there are records of it and of prehistory that there are archaeological findings, and if you go more controversial and not mainstream way it is not history. Besides, historical research, as from what I as an amateur understand, is not pop music or art, it is not about mainstream or underground views about the cultures researched.

[@jamisojo]

I feel like anyone who looks at a lot of archaeological history wouldn't come to the conclusion that any civilizations popped up out of thin air. We have a lot of evidence of cities and civilizations that existed before the written word.

[@bubaks2]

Thanks for keeping it real.

[@hughholt121]

In 1968 I watched an artist carve a 8 ft high native American head from a block of wood at the entrance to an apartment complex without using any power tools. He used a hand axe and hand tools and finished it in ten days. He saw the finish product in his head.

[@schrecksekunde2118]

Imho the approach "ancient cultures could never make such a flat surface /exact angle" is insulting and shows a real lack of knowledge about how such tasks can be done. They calculated the whole construction of pyramids and similar buildings but they had no chance to make some rock shiny by rubbing sand on it or by putting an angle on it? Really? And those ancient supercultures (aka aliens) had the huge advantage of "having power tools" and were able to make a perfect angle? Why could they do that and not the ones that we know of?has anyone seen the cathedrals in Europe? They had better tools but for sure no better "angle technology" or power tools but somehow managed to get those tasks done. Once you know how to do it you can replicate it and the ancient civilizations has a LOT of time on their side so I don't see any need for some godlike creatures that differ only so far as to be good at doing great angles.

[@stevene9785]

"and the ancient civilizations has a LOT of time on their side" Oh absolutely. After they spent the day dragging around 2 ton blocks of lime stone and of course rubbing sand on the surface they simply stopped in the walmart for that silly stuff like food and clothes. They had a lot less time on this planet then we have now.

[@jamisojo]

@@stevene9785 why would the people pulling limestone blocks be the same people who do measurements and are craftsman? And they didn't go to Walmart. Other people brought them food. The Egyptians weren't cavemen.

[@stevene9785]

@@jamisojo " The Egyptians weren't cavemen." You are displaying your lack of understanding of the current time line of human development as currently proposed by Egyptologists. That is because this is what is being proposed. Egyptians pretty much stepped out of a cave and built the Great Pyramid. Amazing folks for sure.

[@Ilikestarwars1245]

I've seen a bit of evidence of a lost advanced ancient civilization but when I say advanced I mean comparatively not necessarily modern levels of advance like the fact that during a time that was supposed to be even pre-agriculture people created gunung padang an 24,000 year old pyramid the size of a mountain granted it does have several layers that were believed to be made thousands of years apart from each other b different people groups but it's still impressive that they were able to create something so advanced so early on

[@jaksmittensandstuff6413]

❤️ this video and the overall subject! The ability & willingness to not only think, but to be open to possibilities that might not align with personal beliefs…nvm, it’s past my bedtime and I’m thinking crazy thoughts 😂.

[@lvangirardi]

You are the best. I Love your work .

[@Ibreakthingz]

I’m sure most, though don’t ask for a complete rewrite. Maybe a change in the funding that has lead to a paradigm that allows only a linear path of thought..

[@Ibreakthingz]

Sorry for my English

[@stripeytawney822]

What funding? Sorry Charlie but you do not know how it works. No central money controlling the narrative.

[@the_major]

​@@stripeytawney822 How would funding magically change carbon dates or stratigraphy?

[@stripeytawney822]

@@the_major it would not change any facts!! Notice I am replying to a guy that seems to be saying it would. I doubt the anti- sciencers claim that money corrupts truth in academia. However I DO believe hokey Conspiracy youtubers ARE making money popularizing steaming piles.

[@vredacted3125]

You seem like a really good historian, much respect to you.

[@zandvoort8616]

Great rational perspective on the subject

[@The_Mess85]

Oh yeah, the other thing these people miss is biogeography stuff (wrote this before you brought up human genetics), i.e. humans spread food plants, domestic animals and rats. So any advanced ancient civilisation would have spread organisms to all sorts of places if it had been wide spread. Not to forget either they'd have developed domesticated plants earlier and the rather comprehensive stone age trade networks that would have spread them everywhere. And frankly, any civilisation in contact with Central and South America would have totally spread chillies everywhere, as humanity seems addicted to these fiery fruits. Also, ancient mining for metals etc would have left significant traces, and yet there's none cited. As would rubbish piles, even stone age societies produced significant middens that have lasted centuries and provided a wealth of extremely useful information. And yet, these are strangely missing from the "evidence" produced for ancient advanced civilisations as well. And one last thing on teh rats - there's a tiny section in NZ that believes for completely batshit reasons that somehow the Celts made it to NZ and were wiped out by Maori settlers. And yet the only rat found in NZ before europeans arrived is the kiore (Rattus exulans) with no signs of european rats until after european ships started making landfall for whaling.

[@crhu319]

That's a very compelling argument. Even a wholly vegan culture would move plants...and definitely chilis, tomatoes, potatoes, cocoa, corn, all count among foods one would definitely transplant.

[@BaronBytes]

​@@crhu319 You forgot coffee. And all the drugs.

[@eugenemartone7023]

While I believe it’s quite possible that some myths were created from legends (which were in turn based on real events), they’ve become so derived that it’s (near) impossible to tell what (if anything) within them is true.

[@BaronBytes]

It's even hard with modern pop culture mythology and we have the history right there.

[@morgan97475]

Another good video....shukran! I will continue to hold out hope for the discovery of a "lost, ice age civilization" if only because, as you state in your video..."it makes me appreciate their (ancients) capabilities even more." After all, if modern homo sapiens like us, with the same brain capacity as us, have been around for 150,000 years (perhaps 200K), surely there must've been an Archimedes, Pythagoras, Da Vinci, or Einstein that popped up during that long interval...? That said, your perspective is needed on here (are you on Rumble and/ or Odysee?). I look forward to more. Finally, though you've critiqued Randall Carlson in the past, I think you'd be a great "guest star" on their Kosmographia channel given your extensive knowledge of ancient history. I hope they reach out to you (or you to them) so you all can pool your knowledge & see where it takes all of us. Stay safe!

[@oldguy6976]

As one of my science teachers was fond of saying."You enter my class naive, you leave it informed or belligerently stupid". Well done sir.

[@varyolla435]

🤭Yes. As an aside. Many people - usually those who have never actually been to college - try to mischaracterize it as simply "pounding facts into the heads" of the students. That of course is facile logic. Yes in higher education there is a lot of emphasis upon classroom interaction. Instructors tend to impart what are critical concepts they desire their students to understand. Yet a considerable amount of work in college is actually completed = outside the classroom. So things like writing papers and projects which require the individual to do research are the really important takeaway. Rather than being viewed as "makework" exercises they serve a more important purpose. They compel the student = to learn how to "teach themselves" + how to impart that in an intelligent manner. Moral of the story: once upon a time I went to college like many others and there I learned much. The biggest thing I learned however as alluded to above was how to do research so as to be able to answer my own questions in a structured manner so as to arrive at plausible evidence-based results. Unlike those who today "self-research" online to usually end up with poor assumptive results which are a reflection of their own confirmation bias - research conclusions in college must be supported by compelling evidence. Further that is as as noted presented in a cogent manner. These are the lifeskills one takes away as they are employed for the rest of your life - whereas given facts of a time can change when new more compelling understanding comes to light. 🤔 _"Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he eats for the rest of his life"_ _"Teach a person to teach themselves = and they will likely never fall prey to willful ignorance and misdirection."_

[@robcarter167]

Great work sir!

[@paulbrockhurst8397]

Hi World of Antiquity. Great video, I am tired of Von Daniken style speculations and the whole pseudo science: 'TVesque, evangelistic, bullshizzle, buy my books movement, Discovery channel has a lot to answer for this mimetic drizzle '. The megalithic age being so lengthy only suggests to me these, our antecedents, were just great at stone carving and building through experience and time. To suggest this was done with help from extraterrestrial or magical forces is just pure nuts. They did it. We can see it. They were not sloppy and did a great job.

[@DavidFMayerPhD]

Discovery Channel and History Channel have degenerated into superstition like Fate Magazine.

[@paulbrockhurst8397]

@@DavidFMayerPhD Amen brother. I'm in love with history. Not happy that these people despoil it! TC hermosa and keep it coming! Love your posts.

[@chrisball3778]

I hate the Atlantis stuff- it's just really dumb and offensive. Real life archaeology is just so fascinating. All these strange civilisations arising in different parts of the world, all the differences between them, and all the similarities as well, the endlessly diverse, inventive responses to the challenges of getting through life that different cultures and eras have thrown up- it's utterly amazing. The Atlantis fans just seem to want to throw most of it out the window and to attribute all that variety and creativity to some unknowable monolithic culture that's either been carefully deleted from existence or was created by aliens. Despite the fact that they love to think of themselves as the open-minded ones, their vision of ancient history is stupid, devoid of interest in the human experience, and completely lacking in imagination. A lot of it's borderline racist as well- they generally seem a lot more invested in claiming that non-Europeans couldn't have created their architectural marvels than they are in denying the wonders created by Greece or Rome.