Why I Don't Collect Legend Scale Transformers

[@strangeapprentice]

Just bought MS Megatron and Soundwave. The reason for me is just display in my desk, play with it then keep it. Just fun to play around while at work. Will buy MP TF for display. But for me legends is for play for my desk. Fill the desk drawer as much I can. hahaha

[@xeleven1310]

The price doesn't bother you? They aren't exactly cheap

[@tvdb698]

Exactly why I bought newage soundwave and bluestreak! Legends for playing at the desk, and planet-x for collecting

[@strangeapprentice]

@@xeleven1310 Nope it doesn't. Price is no issue I just want mini MP toys to play around on my desk while working

[@strangeapprentice]

@@tvdb698 Yep this is fun and kinda stress reliever. seeing amazing detailed transformers hanging out on my desk is great!

[@Ditronus.]

@@strangeapprentice what are some of your favorites, a year later? I like smaller, detailed, yet still-if possible-intricate designs and transformations.

[@b.l.8755]

When I was collecting, it was legends. I prefer a toy I can hold in one hand than one that I have to carefully lift with both. The die cast and paint in newage really makes it feel premium. I also prefer their head sculpts (the most important part of any figure imo). Iron factory for IDW characters only.

[@THEShoky]

I'm glad I got out of MP and into legends.

[@pocketbotcollective]

This is the way. 😁

[@RidiculousBadgerGames]

Solid bro. Sitdown Saturdays are my favorite vids on this channel. It really fills a content void. Keep it up!

[@whatwouldthehoffdo]

I agree. There's Noone in my real life that i can talk to. This is like that

[@RidiculousBadgerGames]

@@whatwouldthehoffdo lol you're gazing into my soul right now

[@Big_Em]

The only reason I would go with Legends would be for displaying with Titans.

[@tvdb698]

I just started a legends collection, mainly just to ‘play’ with them at my desk😂 while working from home or gaming. Also want to start to make a diorama and use my resin printer to make some diorama stuff

[@THEShoky]

It's what I do

[@pocketbotcollective]

Ooooh they do scale excellent with titans indeedy!

[@ricotanes]

This!

[@xeleven1310]

@Patrick Swayze true, but isn't a 50-70 dollar price tag a little high for that?

[@N1thunderfan]

I've recently made the decision to switch out of mainline to legends. First reason, you've done so many reviews and have shown me the way, but the second main reason is I was fed up with the mainline for multiple reasons. Those being quality and obtainability. All of the criticism you have are very fair and understandable, but for me, I see them as the pros. Currently having to size down my collection anyway, and I'm not too worried about the display space as I'm constantly messing with them. I think the competition is rather annoying, but it's giving people options because each(while toon accurate) have their own athstetic. It's similar to X Transbots VS Fanstoys. Both are doing G1, but just different enough to still be cool on their own Thanks for reading my Ted talk.

[@GibDozer1]

I understand where you're coming from, but as someone who fairly recently swapped out legends for the mainline let me say this. Don't sell off any of your mainline figures until you've accumulated some legends figures and owned them as a collection for awhile. They are not as good as they look regardless of what legends collectors say. Your mainline figures will retain their value, so if you decide you love legends you're out nothing. However; if you sell of the CHUG stuff to buy a legends collection and decide you don't like them your going to lose about 25-30% at resale(based on my personal experience). Legends looks great posed up, or hanging out in alt mode. I find everything in-between to be a fiddly, frustrating, disappointing mess.

[@marvinonstage]

All I heard is "If I had to do it all over again I would have gone main line." Even Skully knows the new stuff is really good.

[@cliftonsmith4013]

My favorite Sitdown Saturday so far. I just sold off my Masterpiece collection and really went in on Legends scale figures. Not afraid to admit that I got priced out of Masterpiece, especially FansToys. And XTransbots recent failures really pushed me out the door. That being said, I love Legends scale figures. I have a good mix of NewAge, Magic Square, & MFT. I'm blown away by how good they look. That centerpiece that you guys reviewed is so fucking awesome and I'm thinking about doing the same. Space was becoming an issue and that's just another reason for me to get rid of my Masterpiece collection. I do hate how NA & MS are colliding. I wish these companies put out figures by season. I'd love to see the Japanese continuity characters explored a little more.

[@owenthenutscrambler4996]

@Kyle Critchfield agreed I hate transforming masterpiece figs such a pain 😭

[@Ditronus.]

What are your favorite legends scale ones so far?

[@cliftonsmith4013]

@@Ditronus. the Magic Square '84 Autobots so far. I have Ratchet, Mirage, Prowl, Hound, & Jazz. Also love the Magic Square Stunticons. From NewAge I love Galvatron.

[@stephenwells3679]

I was tempted to start collecting legends after masterpiece dried up but one of your vids on addiction made me realize that I was chasing that thrill. At the end of the day, legends are too small, mainline feels too cheap. I’m all about the display now

[@poolee77]

I started dabbling more into mainline with Netflix Optimus and SS86 Hot Rod and was pleasantly surprised by them.

[@stephenwells3679]

SemperFiMac77 I had a fiddle with that hot rod, not really my thing but it’s definitely a fine example of a transformer and I totally understand why it would appeal. But it’s not for me personally. I am quite excited about mp skids, however!

[@poolee77]

@@stephenwells3679 totally Understandable. These new mainline figs will never be MPs. I haven't bought an MP or any other figure for years now, I think MP Sideswipe when he was new was the last time I bought a figure. They were a nice little step back into the hobby.

[@stephenwells3679]

SemperFiMac77 I think it’s important to remember that we all collect for different reasons. For me, I was never into the cartoon that much but I do strongly remember picking up a heavy, high quality transforming red truck on Christmas morning in 1984. Had a very particular feel. When I first got mp-01 I had that feeling again but scaled up to adult hands, if that makes sense! The other lines don’t give me the same feeling is what I mean. Unfortunately, the mp and 3p line have gone in a different direction but I’m more than happy with what I got.

[@noprobllama9747]

Same, just got on the transformers collecting bandwagon and very quickly reigned in the psychological reasons before it escalated. Now its branches out to a few marvel legends but with severe display limitations to keep it under control.

[@tvdb698]

Awesome! I just started a legends collection😂

[@toyoshark2925]

Same i just started collecting legends scale g1 Transformers

[@tvdb698]

@@toyoshark2925 yeah I also started with G1! Bought Newage soundwave and bluestreak. Love the playability from those bots. Mainly started it because I completed the whole Planet-x line, and wanted some easy transformation bots that is can ‘play’ with while gaming at my desk or something. Also want to create diorama’s and use my resin printer for it

[@farminglittlepeople9623]

I love Legends!😁👍

[@pocketbotcollective]

This is the way! 😁👍

[@echotransformer]

Even though you don’t collect em, I’m really glad that you review em!

[@dealerdestro5857]

My G.I. Joes are in detolfs but those coffee tables gave me some new inspiration. 😎

[@brenoferreiraferreira4409]

I collect action figures (transformable action figures included), that is what I love, if I know and love the character it's even better but as long as the figure appeals to me in some way or I consider it to be a very good action figure I will try to get it. The main issue is that at this time and age there are loads of very good action figures around so it gets a bit hard to choose based only on a "good action figure" criteria, at least when you're not filthy rich. I buy figures by quality, by brand, by fiction, by scale and by the way I want to display them. You can work a shelve or a cabinet with different scales, brands, fictions, qualities, etc as long as you have an idea behind the way you want to display the figures in it and you now how to organize space. Imagine that you have a shelve dedicated to pairs, be it life long enemies, lovers or friends, something like Takara Masterpiece Optimus & Megatron, Bandai Soul of Chogokin Mazinger Z & Minerva X, Storm Collectibles Ken & Ryo, etc. A shelve dedicated to every iteration of Optimus and Megatron, another to all the Autobots, another to all the Decepticons and another to every 4 set of TMNT ever released. What I mean is you can mix in different scales if you have an idea, if that idea is easy to understand just by looking at it and if you know how to organize your space. I collect and display masterpiece, chug and legends scaled TF action figures, the reason why I do is because I love very good action figures and every scale has them.

[@espencee8914]

I just only collects characters that I really like or favorites (prime bee jazz wheejack ironhide ratchet prowl sideswipe dinobots with wheelie) autobots only no decepticons. I loved them since I was a kid so nostalgic that they are all now in figures that are so accurate with fantastic articulation for dynamic displays.

[@jobr9709]

- living in a city flat with wife, kids and dogs i simply dont`t have enough space to display MPs - for the same price as one MP-scale figure i get between 2 and 5 Legends - i entered collecting just a few years ago, the only way to acquire older MP-scale figures would be through the secondary market, and you know what that means ($$$)

[@morkkram]

Man this is the first time I've heard of someone else who liked the movie Flight of Dragons. That movie was awesome.

[@matthurd991]

Flight of Dragons is next level.

[@keviniaquinto128]

I started a few months ago with Newage's Toy Soundwave, and it's an amazing desk toy at work. I just got Magic Square's Menasor, and I'm IN on the combiners. Can't wait for the MS Devastator.

[@Atharun18999]

I completely agree about the logistics of your space at the individual level. The piece I disagree with is comparing displaying legends scale Tformers to small action figures. GI JOEs and Star Wars figs have a problem inherent to most action figures and that's the aesthetic nature of seeing the joints and what not that you can't "hide" like you can on a robot. For example, the Iron Factory Tarn that Bobby shows will (IMO) always display well whereas a random star wars figure or JOE won't. It's the nature of a human action fig vs a robot. Robots just have more options for hiding the so called anatomy limitation that others don't. I do 💯 agree that what you display them in matters a lot though. Putting something small in a detolf requires extra work such as stands or something to help fill the space but I believe that problems exists regardless of scale.

[@alphatrion100]

I dont collect masterpiece because of the price of some of them. I dont collect main line because they used to suck. I want as many g1 carachters as i can possibly get but i dont want to pay more than 80 bucks for ONE character.

[@moloko912]

Great video bobby. Lots of stuff to chew on. I can't wait for the collection critique on my display since I did a legend collection on a billy. You are very correct about the quantity/quality. Ironically the cyberverse one step changer whirl has a good idw design and works well with legend figure. I love the challenge of looking from other line for characters that work for legend scale. And the small size make the size difference less of an eyesore

[@pocketbotcollective]

Couldn't agree more with you on that Whirl! It's actually quite cool how many figures from other lines match up well with legend class figures 😁

[@nosrepsuomynona7192]

I collect legends scale figures because those are the only figures I can afford with my disposable income but recently I have stopped since the current legends scale figures are getting more expensive

[@hq9344]

Yeah, legends is starting to get to where some decent masterpiece were just a few years ago….

[@pocketbotcollective]

Not sure whether all legends are getting more expensive, NewAge definately is tho.

[@Ashpolt]

I started collecting almost purely MP, but over the past year or two have switched over mostly to legends. Scale doesn't really matter to me, but I've got limited display space and want to maximise it - a couple of acrylic risers make legends look great in a detolf or similar. But even more than the space issue, I just feel that legends is where the most exciting stuff is happening in the 3P market right now. Legends are now basically mini masterpieces in terms of visual and engineering quality, but more fun to transform, and great to have as deskbots (he says, with Zeta Flash on his desk, who is flipping huge.) Bobby's reasons for not collecting legends are entirely fair and well articulated, but I'd feel like I was missing out on the best transformers has to offer right now if I ignored this area.

[@MrTonyJ]

Some of the X transbots in that legends-plus size look great with MP or CHUG.

[@andrewmichael9201]

I’m honestly so glad I went mainline. There’s so much variety to my displays that a Legends or MP display will probably never have

[@Atlas-hu9wk]

Damn, you must be extremely loaded to have such massive collection.

[@alphatrion100]

I could but i dont want to

[@spencergellsworth]

The Kingdom Core seems aimed to eat the 3P Legends market the same way War For Cybertron 2019 took the oomph out of a lot of mid-range third party stuff

[@lindyxmjh4589]

I wouldn't worry, since Hasbro has only released a whopping four Legends class figures in Core Class so far.

[@gr33n3y13]

Genuinely cracked up at the picture of my kids behind it

[@MrTwrburns]

Excellent break down. Side note: You're coffee table/terrarium displays are absolutely epic. Fantastic work.

[@GXDoubleX]

I don't really even try to display the legends figures. They are deskbots and hand candy for me. I do love them though. The stuff NA and MS are doing right now I wouldn't have even imagined a few years ago at this size. I'll probably keep getting them as long as they keep putting out good toys and don't get too insanely expensive (kind of getting there though).

[@xeleven1310]

Ill never pay any kind of money for a 4 inch figure. People are nuts.

[@2dbeats3d]

Never say never

[@lareh5501]

@x11 well, as adults, wouldn't purchasing any kind of toy for ourselves, instead of children, put us all into the 'nuts' category? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@itsahostiletakeover]

And I'll never pay $300 for a 12" figure so I guess it's all relative, they're all toys.

[@xeleven1310]

@@itsahostiletakeover I wouldn't either. I paid 160 for one that's 13" tho. I've bought a few ko legends and even then I got the feeling "wow, this is all I get for my money?"

[@aaronst.pierre3080]

Firstly, I just wanted to say love the videos and thanks for doing that for the hobby. The more the merrier. I love your feedback on models etc. I didn't really think your reasoning behind not getting Legends made any sense at all but to each their own. The models simply put are not that small, unless you buy New Age specifically in which case fair enough. If you balance your collection with a bit of this and that it looks totally legit on any shelf. I think, in your case which might alter this, is you need to buy everything or have a completionist mentality and therefore need more space than a regular Joe? In fact, I think MP scale or larger take up way more space and are far more awkward than anything Legends can pump out. I also prefer the war between companies especially with how fun it is with keeping the community interested on different things, for different reasons. It pushes companies to continuously make better products and improve engineering. Man, this is video is very interesting to me, I'm only in the space because of the Legend scale and specifically because of MS and NA. I also, have no problem displaying the models whatsoever, on larger or smaller shelves. Maybe that's coming from someone who's fielded multiple Warhammer armies over decades, I'm not sure. My thoughts on this are simplistic in nature, if you put most of your really well designed models up for less than $50, I become very interested! I'm glad you can still make the videos you do for the Legends community, it's greatly appreciated. Thanks again.

[@nathanschultz5538]

I started with the IF Lamborghini Twins and thought it would be enough just to get my favorite guys in that scale...a year later and I have more legends than MP scale now. Excellent points about cannibalism though!

[@pocketbotcollective]

....how most of us fell down that rabbit hole 😂

[@solarixstar]

For me it’s a matter of space. I don’t have a lot of real estate for my figures/model kits so I lean towards smaller ones that will both fit the space and give me something to fidget with. (Continue on if you wanna really know why) So I always need something to mess with in my hands, due to having both ADD and HFA. It helps to keep me focused and sane when doing intimidating tasks. (Ex. When taking a online test I have any MS, NA, IF, or anything else legends scale in my hand off screen) Like I said it keeps me sane and where I have to be.

[@nightlypiano4116]

Have you ever considered getting and/or reviewing Iron Factory Catastrophe/Ruination? (And while i'm recommending things, TFC Toys' ST Commander Nuclear Blast ver. Is amazing)

[@Maxshade7]

Great sit down, Skully. I’m switching from Chug to legends. Legends scales is driving me crazy but they look better and are easier to flip around. You made a great point about looking at the past to see where legends are going.

[@pocketbotcollective]

The scaling can indeed drive one crazy. On the other hand, there's usually multiple versions of one character, so you can pick and chose which size fits best in your specific legends collection. 😊

[@kek23k]

Flight of Dragons is such a fantastic film though, I think it only resonates with people that saw it in childhood though. But that's me and I love it.

[@UrMomsChauffer]

I totally agree with your assessment. The only time you can make tiny figures display well, is when you have a massive, for scale, scene. This only works with things like LEGO, and then they lack the fine details of something larger, like MPs.

[@lindyxmjh4589]

I will say that I have a lot more faith in Legends scaled companies putting out the more obscure and later characters to complete shelves than I do for the MP ones ever moving past Season 1, 2, and the movie.

[@owenthenutscrambler4996]

Hmmmm I think ima take the “hard to display” as a challenge I’ve been wanting to checkout some legends scale stuff 🤔but u do make some good points here 👍

[@sofubisamurai]

When I got back into TF collecting back in ‘19 I started with legends scale. After picking up 10 or so figures I was like wtf am I going to do to display these. Sold em and went to MP/3P.

[@sj_harris]

Flight of Dragons - respect BBSF. Good old Gorbash Funnily enough, just before you mentioned that, I was thinking that the LJN Tiamat and Mattel COTT Kraken are the jewels in my collection. Says something, though not quite sure what :)

[@MrUniq]

I wonder is the one saving grace of 3rd party would be the cost to manufacture but maybe not because I can imagine they would be required to print at more volume with the smaller scale.

[@getoveryourself2212]

Tbh, I like legends but I hope Giga makes a rendition to SoundWave tbh... I'd be mad happy with the gloss and size they could pull off with that and imagine the minibots they could possibly polish with its upscaling

[@dgriffin156]

"Mainline?!?!" WILD!

[@gaiusfreeman5028]

"If you look at my channel, [Legends are] kinda almost the bread and butter of my channel nowadays." Too much truth for a Saturday! I don't even have a Sideswipe I'm happy with yet, let alone a Hotrod! Come back MP! Come back!

[@jonathanb1987]

I bet the profit margins are higher for legends because they can sell more figures without putting a bunch of money into engineering. MPs will be back after legends dries up but they are going to double in price.

[@2dbeats3d]

Interesting that the price point of legends use to be the allure for most people. However now Magic Square and (more specifically) NewAge are getting more expensive. Not to say it’s a bad thing, but most people nag that 3P MP is “too expensive”. Look at how Magic Square’s Stunticons set is around $280 and NewAge’s Devy set is $400+. It’ll be interesting to see how many people will support MS and NA. I know deep down I’m definitely planning on supporting both companies by picking up double sets (and possibly a third set of MS’s Devy if they do shattered glass Devy). Also, I’m with the majority of people who like their cons and bots bigger. I like my shit big too (so to speak). However, For me, the smaller size lends itself to more playability. I’m more comfortable with playing with a Legends figure than I am with a 3P MP figure. Mostly because I can somewhat easily replace a Legends figure if I break it. Same can’t be said if I break a 3P MP fig. Especially with how the market is with FansToys and just 3P MP in general, I won’t be happy replacing a 3P MP figure

[@pocketbotcollective]

Agreed! The playability plays a big factor for me as well. Greets, Ape of the Pocket Bot Collective

[@bobdobalina8910]

Hey, your opinion, you win ;) I like the Legends both MS & Na, however, it's not the Cannibalizing that gets me, more POWER to them, it's competition that will keep each side relatively honest. No what really irks me is the PRICE POINT. Yes, the engineering for some are incredible, the quality is generally pretty good, but the PRICE GOUGING is almost to the point where I pull the plug. Look what Takara/Hasbro have done, 3P in particular FansToys has followed lock step in raising the PRICES to unreasonable levels. Sure it's Capitalism but at some point it'll hurt em. IMO it would be far far wiser to ramp up production - not flood the market - keep prices reasonable and everyone WINS!

[@8474Starscream]

Same but I did pickup all the Revoltech's and customized Starscream molds into Thundercracker & Skywarp also picked up all of the Custom Robots 🤖.....great for combiner exaggerated display 🎬

[@creditguys1358]

I'mma be honest Legends for me is just "Are these figures in robot mode about the same height? Yes? Good Enough, if they scale to show accuracy by chance, happy little bonus" Combiners, Titans & similar large scale transformers are the psuedo exception. Combiners I'll base on do the individual components fit with the rest of the collection. I honestly haven't look at Titans, City Bots or other large figures yet, but I'd probably want them to be roughly the same size as a "Legends" Titan. But also I'd happily take a Unicron or a Primus with Planet modes that are the same height as say Core Class Soundwave, Starscream & Hot Rod, etc lol

[@Nickedup44]

I recently switched to collecting legends, a lot more affordable and doesn’t take up so much space. Currently working on Iron factory stuff. I also feel like legends pose better then MP and chug. But transformers do need dioramas to look better

[@SentinelBayReviews]

Everything from 8:23 was pure gold and once again an uncomfortable truth spoken out. Kudos to that!

[@johngavin1175]

My collection is a mish mash and boxed up anyway. I only have a few legends figures. Just got my first Magic Square figure. I have 2 Iron Factory,and 3 Newage. I'm resisting going down that rabbit hole. But watching Deluxe makes it difficult ha ha. Especially for the Newage clear versions.

[@DESTRAKON]

Going back to that point about the legends companies competing in one space (g1 movie/s1-3) I don't see why they don't make stuff for the beast era figures or the stuff that came out in the early to mid 2000's like armada and what not cause guys like me came up on that stuff and we're at that age of being in college, having a job, having some money to spend and I think space is a big deciding factor for the ones still collecting, the way I see it that's just alot of money left on the table when it doesn't need to be, given how many areas of the fiction you can tackle with a bit of research

[@dutchy7962]

Plenty who just start with collecting like me, who avoided the MP line because of price or lack of space. These current G1 Legends fill that gap, it is true that only after when you have many it starts to feel like a real collection. I agree with the NA and MS battle and it is just stupid, your worries about what they will do or be around after the G1 cartoon and movie line are finished is something I do not share. I am done after that anyway.

[@xeleven1310]

There are main line figures that are better than a $70 newage figures. When it comes to figures size does have to count for something?

[@dutchy7962]

@@xeleven1310 not really, if I wanted bigger figures, I would get them. For this size, there is nothing IMO from the main line that can compete with 3P Legends.

[@kylesghost]

Good discussion and a really interesting and surprising thing for you to mention... That if you had to do it all over again you might consider main-line. Heh, I really can't imagine it for you and your awesome collection/display but currently that's what I'm buying a lot of. (Plus other stuff like MMC for an IDW collection). And as disappointing and imperfect as I find certain chug figures.. I do feel like I might be able to pull something off with displaying them together. I think you said in another video that the imperfections of a lower quality figure can maybe blend in with the crowd. Masterpiece scared me off originally for the price when i started getting in to all this. it seemed outrageous to spend so much.. but as you pointed out once, looking at some of the mainline costs it isn't actually that cheap when you add them all up. But its still more affordable and working with limited space I ended up feeling like MP just would never fit in my home and display properly. Plus.. although not perfect... I get a Runabout and a Runamuck.

[@aljamin45]

Really enjoyed this video - interesting points made... I am a looooong time collector and painter of Citadel / Gamesworkshop miniatures, so to me Legend scale models feel pretty sizeable when it comes to display, so for me Legend scale transformers are neither 'small' or part of a quantity based collection as I feel they stand up as individual bots on display. I love the Legend scale's size / feel and generally find legends just more pleasing to mess around with than either mainline or MP scale models. (Full disclosure - I do collect MP and mainline transformers as well but am increasingly leaning towards legends scale). I guess if you are used to MP scale stuff, Legends seem small and difficult to make an impactful display, but if you are used to working in an even smaller scale, legends are actually pretty big 🙂

[@Matunahelper]

I own a few 3P legends, simply because I have no will power and it was during an MP drought. But I can't collect them. I gave all the ones I did buy to my son.

[@blue18404]

We need the 1988 Transformers

[@edmundolastra3279]

As someone that has always loved small toys, I think the legends scale boom has mostly made me more picky. I've seen the New Age and Magic Square stuff and some if it tickles me. But the only ones I end up pulling triggers on are iron factory (and admittedly an old Perfect Effect offerening). The others I ended up buying into are the Mech Fans Toys/VECMA studio legends + scale stuff. But I only just got back into collecting a couple of years ago and my main collection is diaclone reboot stuff. I can say the reason I love the pocket scale toys is for just being able to play with them and have fun without spending a hundred bucks or more. Sure, display can be a problem but you have to get creative. I also think they present a vastly different challenge from the traditional 3.75 action figures. Transformers come in all sorts of heights and sizes while most 3.75 figures are generally uniform in height. That does also lend itself to some scale jank you can use to some advantage here and there as long as it doesn't break your brain.

[@fancysinigang_tk]

Great topic man, the MS Menasor looks dope butttttt I'd rather have it in MP scale haha.

[@UNICORNxGUNDAM]

The wonky face sculpts, the un-unified scale, and the rising cost is kind of a turn off. 20-30 feels fair but most legends coming out now are 45-70. Kills my motivation to ditch the MP line and quickly gather up legends of the characters I have.

[@pocketbotcollective]

Have to disagree here. The quality just keeps getting better and better. And it's only really one of the legend class companies that offer at that high pricepoint, namely NewAge. For 45 you get a 2-pack from ie MagicSquare. Also depends on where you buy them from of course. Factor in that Hasbro also charges 15 bucks for the Core Class figures, now compare that to the 3P company prices and engineering 😁

[@GibDozer1]

I got out of 3P and legends in favor of Siege/ER and I have no regrets. Legends while cool lack the playability of the mainline and the display presence of MP. For me that basically left them with no purpose at all. I do have a few still preforming little tasks, like MS Blaster in his boom box mode who looks good in an MP display imo.

[@mikeuziel]

Really enjoyed this one. I have a mix of everything, but as time progresses I find I'm mostly into Legends vs MP. I've contemplated moving on from my MP line as well, but the truth is that they DO display better. Legends are just more fun. They're more versatile, the simpler transformations mean I can mess with them back and forth without a tutorial, and Newage in particular has really been killing it. I also love Iron Factory's IDW stuff. In the end, I'm nearly done with MP anyway so Legends will be my future, but I respect your reasons for going the opposite direction.

[@tawdryhepburn4686]

Oh shit! New skullface!

[@shaejohnston6339]

Iron Factory Swerve bar terrarium sounds amazing. I agree that the MS and NA war seems like MP was but on the otherhand they've both announced Menasor and Devastator but while one is releasing one the other is doing the other. I do agree you won't get much outside s1, s2 and the movie though.

[@itisalec]

I really like the smaller size figures but i still like my chugs too and the idea of getting rid of everything and swapping out and all the work involved gives me a headhace. Also like them or not the generations stuff has been going on for years and there is so much variety of figures of all kinds, i also aquired some unique pieces over the years and i prefer having them integrated in the display.

[@gocanttt]

Nice video.

[@animatedplastic]

Will you buy some WST for your Unicron? I commend you to not get into the Legends Class and would agree that it's a slope. You have many more things you collect, so props that you don't go crazy. Maybe it's time to Upgrade your collection space...to a bigger house...lol.

[@officerbarbrady8387]

I only collect legends scaled figures that interest me. If I try and build a legends collection based on the Season 1-3 characters, I'll go broke lol

[@andrewb8789]

Great video! Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the subject.

[@tryptlock1008]

The tiny size is why I've never jumped fully into legends, too. I bought several early Magic Square figures, and they just didn't have any display presence, even if they were fun to mess with. That said, if we ever get a good Metroplex and Trypticon, I might become more tempted by legends. You'd have to dedicate a table to a city-mode display, but the sheer rush of childhood wish-fulfillment that would result from setting up a bunch of legends figures around a big citybot might just be worth it. (Hell, if Fans Toys truly does release 3- or 4-foot citybots some day, maybe main-line figures would work, too.)

[@iamtheomnimonkey]

I don't do Legends for the exact same reasons.

[@charvolth]

For the most part, my 3p Legends are just Iron Factory, and I'm a bit selective with them. I do have some New Age, but I just stick with the mini-bots. My plan is to display my legends with city-bots to get as close as I can to the scale. Almost make them the people caught in the middle of a kaiju fight.

[@christopherjohnson261]

I get you 100%. Reviewing figures that you don’t want helps people decide if they want it. Collecting is a personal thing. With Legends I gave up collecting as I like detailed pieces and bots that bring back memories. Seriously thinking about coming away from 3rd party Transformers. I just want Fanstoys Skullcruncher as it’s my holy grail figure and Maketoys Galvatron. The prices are just getting daft. I really like 52 Toys and I feel like I can share with my kids. Shared as always in my Facebook group TF3PUK. Thanks for doing what you are doing. 🇬🇧❤️

[@CarmP]

Beautifully presented and well supported opinion- as usual. Thank you!

[@TAURON85]

9:35 No love for Avalanche?!

[@itsahostiletakeover]

I think all of your points are 100% valid and logical for your collections, Bobby. And your point about quantity is spot on (how many people will misunderstand that point even after you explained it?) but it's also an appeal to me as I love most of these characters. For me, I only collect two things in any kind of quantity: dinosaurs and Transformers and the deepest I've truly gotten into 3rd party before committing to Legends-scale is being a fan of MMC. So it was easy for me to go in. Add in that I'm not a big "leave it on the shelf for months" guy, I take them down, play, pose, and photo them. At the end of the day most of what we collect are toys and you're damn right I'm gonna play with them some 🤣 Great video Bobby.

[@texasbeast239]

I would only ever consider Legends scale if I wanted to add Beast Wars characters to be in scale with my MP collection. But I never got into BW as much as TFG1 so I'm not as emotionally attached, and I am very critical of hard plastic limited-articulation representations of soft organic beast bits that don't really cover up robot bits.

[@singularityisapeepus3856]

What would your thought be on legends scale Movie (Michael Bay) Transformers?

[@magicgundam]

The stoke of seeing new Skullface content, followed by the disappointment that it's another video addressing a topic that anyone without bozo tendencies already knows the answers to because they actually pay attention to what B.S. says in his other videos.

[@cliffordarokiaraj9124]

Totally agree with you on the things you shared about legend class TFs. I'm one of them who have been collecting since got the taste from Iron Factory. Have bought other brands to compare them myself in terms of playability and quality of the build. Thank you for the warning on the detolf !

[@superjam18]

I respect your honesty and opinion but I still like Iron Factory

[@Ditronus.]

I'll be honest: I'm not much of a collector anymore as I started to prize money in my bank instead of plastic/paper cluttering my house, but you do collecting pretty well. What I mean by that is sometimes you walk into someone's house and it just screams hoarder/financially bereft/closterphobia, but it seems your place would be an entertaining one to be a guest at as you put thought into display.

[@farminglittlepeople9623]

First off you sir have an amazing collection! Congrats on doing an amazing job displaying them. All my stuff is packed up so I envy you!😂. For me I seem to just enjoy the smaller scale. I feel in love with Mechanic Studios Iron Sky and now I have Poison and Thunderbolt preordered.😁👍

[@pocketbotcollective]

Oh yes, the MechanicStudios trio is definately something special! Can't wait to get my hands on that Blitzwing 😍

[@farminglittlepeople9623]

@@pocketbotcollective Thanks! Yes, I think these 3 triple changers will look great together!😁👍

[@kingblitzz8833]

I have small human alliance collection .do you know other bots that are in scale

[@iancawley9777]

i like it when 3rd party make their own characters

[@the1stdarkjester]

This video hits right in the feels. IRON FACTORY CURSE YOU. A whole line that I constantly think about .

[@Shaun-cf8mz]

Yer father in law made beautiful shelves

[@MrTonyJ]

Bobby can you talk about what figures in Hasbro chugline make sense with a masterpiece and third party collection?

[@MythsAndHeroes]

Zero

[@MrTonyJ]

@@MythsAndHeroes not even Scorponok or Omega Supreme?

[@jovandavid7691]

❤shoutout to jmav David😅

[@chikex]

In regards to the OcMax Eris Kultur: All in all I do really like it, but the hands are just not good. One hand the palm popped off and I ended up losing one finger. Thankfully I am being sent another. My thing is I like to see companies try to expand their lines. It is FAR better than just getting constant releases of Seekers, Optimus and Megatron...

[@iamtheomnimonkey]

Dude!!! Flight of Dragons is awesome!!!! I discovered it by accident about 15 years ago and show it to everyone I know that's into fantasy and table top RPGs (the original gamers).

[@matthurd991]

Jason out here doing the good work.

[@lareh5501]

How many people, when the brief transitions to the BSF statues kicked in, around 8:10 were thinking🤔, "ehhh, a think a few legends could be sprinkled in there..." ? 🤭😏🤭

[@keithtwombley]

bobby, have you ever talked about the coffee tables? Are they custom, or where did you get them?

[@chrisandrew9840]

I don't buy Legends scale because I refuse to spend $30-40 or more for figures of that size. And yeah the mainline stuff improving so much makes me even more hesitant to try Legends. At this point I've narrowed down most of the 84/85 cast in MP scale where I'm satisfied.

[@edwinyi7064]

Legends scale is just too small

[@MarcoServetto]

Hi, not a native english speaker here. What is this 'd-toff' thing that is not good to display leggends?

[@littledutch7549]

Detolf. It's a specific type of IKEA cabinet and one of those things that is almost stereotypical in how often it is poorly used to display collections.

[@ApooShiesty]

This is random but does anyone know where to obtain the Transformers Classics Compendium?

[@thugg4lif]

Legends are waaaay over priced. $50-70 per figure. No thanks.

[@GibDozer1]

I got out of legends because while they have great articulation they lack poseability, and while they have interesting transformations they lack playability. I have my MPs for display but I changed up to the mainline from 3P and legends for my toy fix. In terms of a Transformer to play around with i.e. flip back and forth, pose, customize, ect...Hasbro has smashed its competition imho.

[@thetwistedsister1848]

Why the hate on reformatted whirl? Did you do a review on it I haven’t seen? If so can someone link me. I understand the character isn’t perfect but I really like it in my lost light collection!

[@miketernan6722]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHfQc5aKppJ4l8U

[@thetwistedsister1848]

Thanks!