Why I Don't Use an eBike for Deliveries on Uber Eats and Deliveroo

[@buryato_banderovets]

30 min to answer 1 damn question? Sick

[@Martin-ip3ux]

I got Fiido D4s ebike for 620£ over 6months ago, been doing delieveries with it quite a lot in London and it made such a big difference, you’ll make much more others in the busy time, 4000 miles on the clock and zero issuses with the bike just 2 flats. Highly recommend

[@PinderProductions]

Thank you for the suggestion, folding bikes aren't for me right now but it looks good.

[@hanspz5505]

I feel like everything he said in this video was BS lmao, ebikes are way faster and you’ll get more deliveries done ‘I’ll just travel uphill on my normal bike’ well yeah, but acknowledge that significantly makes you slower 😂 overall delivery time is slashed with an evike

[@sebastianjiang9315]

@@hanspz5505 with ebike u can't work all day plus higher chance of ebike broken down so i would rather use a pushbike

[@Muflinn]

​@@PinderProductionshey bro may I ask you which insurance you use for bicycle delivery.Thx

[@martineyles]

Most of the "E-bike" deliverers in my town have modified them into unlicensed mopeds. They never pedal, while travelling at a speed that's probably faster than the where pedal assist should be disabled, but certainly a lot faster than the permitted throttle speed. It's refreshing to see someone peddling and generally respecting the rules of the road.

[@westscape2]

Swapping to an ebike could also make you ever lazier and you could lose much if the fitness you've built up. This is the main reason I stick to manual but like you I'm only part time. Maybe as a full time job it would be worth going to ebike. I couldn't imagine doing say 8 hours a day 6 days a week on a manual bike; how long could that be sustained?

[@PinderProductions]

Yes it's good to try and keep the fitness level up without the electric motor. I think 8 hours a day would be a struggle on a manual bike considering how many miles you might do each day.

[@DriverJ-N]

tbh its not hard to resist the temptation to rely on the motor imo.. i have a rule to only use the motor on hills or inclines

[@nicholasolivas317]

I don't know who told you that but there are plenty of stats, studies and videos from other visitors to refute that.

[@bonzobanana1]

I would of thought the high end mid-drive ebikes were the worst option for a courier bike, the motor works through the chain so chain and cassette wear much faster and those motors are typically less reliable but have better hill climbing performance. They will break chains fairly frequently. You seem to be quite fit so the greater reliability and extended drivetrain life would benefit you and I'm sure you would still cope with hills with a hub motor. The bike you have could be easily converted to an ebike I suspect. You say its a Giant Escape but not sure which model but a simple front wheel hub conversion could be ideal and it would also allow you to convert back to a regular bike pretty easily if you wanted to. Yose power do some good ebike kits that are shipped from the UK for just under £400 including battery. I think the average power of a human cyclist varies from about 20-50Nm depending on age and fitness, a hub motor from yose is about 45Nm but a high performance mid-drive motor is closer to a 100Nm but I feel like 45Nm would be absolutely fine for you based on your cycling performance with a standard bike. Mechanically hub motors are very simple so they tend to be a lot more reliable than mid-drive those often have a lot of cogs and sometimes belts internally and are based around a much smaller high rpm motor close to the bottom bracket. I think of mid-drive as like a BMW car, more power, less reliability and always more money being spent where as a hub motor is more like a Toyota Corolla, cheaper to buy, cheaper to run, maybe a bit boring. Halfords were doing free ebike test rides, not sure if they still are but might be worth giving one a try and if you like it possibly buy a kit for your current bike.

[@PinderProductions]

Ok thanks for clarifying the reliability of hub motors versus mid-drives. So more reliability for hubs versus speed but increased wear to chain with the mid-drive. Conversion kits can be good, and I see a few people around using them. Sometimes the quality of the batteries on the market is worry for me but assuming they are a reputable manufacturer then sounds like a decent option.

[@bonzobanana1]

@@PinderProductions Not much speed difference between them because of the 15.5mph cap. I guess hub motors accelerate a bit quicker typically but they also consume a bit more power too. People like mid-drive because of the smooth power delivery due to the torque sensor most mid-drives have where as its rarer with hub motors. However overall for its reliability, cheaper entry price, less risk of theft and reduced drivetrain wear I think hub motors are the best option for the gig economy couriers. I do think batteries are typically a little safer with the expensive mid-drive bikes but Bosch batteries for example are full of glue and the BMS will self-brick if you don't charge the battery for a very long time. It's a very proprietary product that requires special digital handshaking with the controller. They do this so they exclude third party batteries etc so they make more money. It can be annoying though so despite their high price the more expensive ebikes full of proprietary tech are often the first to be scrapped. It just becomes too expensive to keep them on the road if you start having motor or battery problems. Then because the frame is dedicated to the motor if you damage the frame, a new frame could be thousands of pounds. They can be money pits. Anyway I think you should try a cheap hub based ebike to see what you think, you may be happy with it and it might increase your productivity 10% or so and quickly pay for itself.

[@domenicstuckless1009]

@@PinderProductions surron is good rad bikes are good reputable companies but idk what you have where your located

[@rubenjoeirinho6763]

I’m at Ebike too, but to be honest, motorcycle is the best! They just have to make 2 deliveries per hour, and the people on Ebike have to do at least 3/4 deliveries per hour, and still they make much more money than us..

[@PinderProductions]

Motorcycle is best for speed to do orders for sure. Got the engine so faster than a bicycle and can get through traffic easier than a car

[@TheKnightsShield]

@@PinderProductions Motorcycles can't be ridden through parks or through alleyways, so in that regard, a bike would be somewhat faster, since you can cut out a load of the distance by taking detours that you can't take on a motorcycle. Another thing that could be problematic for an ebike, is the charge time. If your ebike takes 5-6 hours to fully charge, you have to wait most of that time if you want to spend as much time as possible when out doing deliveries. This is even more of a problem for the cheaper ebikes that have shorter range.

[@dmg9241]

Can you ride without electric bike? Can you feel tired by riding regular bike? Is it easy?

[@PinderProductions]

@@dmg9241 it really depends on how many hills there are, how long you work, and your fitness level. But with regular riding you can do this without an ebike

[@dmg9241]

@@PinderProductions Is Uber eats map the same as Google map?

[@WoodstarForges]

How fast do you receive delivery requests on bike? (Uber)

[@stevepardo8369]

Unless you're doing this full time, stick with a regular bicycle. I did a simple analysis and it would take over 400 deliveries to pay off a 2,000 WAU bike if each order was 5 lb! It's not likely you're going to make 5.00 per order so break even point might be closer to 500 deliveries! Since you are part time, this could take 4 or 5 months of hard work just to pay for the bike before you even make any money. Everyone that I know who has an electric bike is constantly having them repaired. Damaged batteries, controllers, spokes, motors and the list goes on. The battery will need to be replace each year if you have only one and you're cycling through it. When it rains on an electric bike, it pours as water can destroy the electronics. I also watch Vio and he makes less money than you! He's using a 2K WAU bike!

[@PinderProductions]

Ok that's a lot of deliveries to pay off a bike 😲. I thought it would be a while but never did the maths

[@hanspz5505]

I chose to rent for that reason, not worth forking out 1.5k for a bike that constantly needs repairs paid for

[@ghislainndzana5377]

I’m about to start doing full time and want to make as much as money as possible. Would you advise me to go with an ebike or a motorcycle. If so , why, what’s the benefits and disadvantages? Thanks

[@PinderProductions]

Motorcycle you can ride to places faster so can do more orders, but have additional cost of fuel, insurance & courier insurance. Ebike has less running costs, probably slightly quicker in the centre of town but a bit slower than motorbike elsewhere

[@ziomanerijus]

E bike full time is not good because of the battery. Down fast if you are not pedaling and if peddling you are tired

[@randomtrendz]

@@ziomanerijusmy thought is to get multiple batteries

[@davidgallacher2822]

@randomtrendz hi bro get 500 Watts throttle ebike less paddle twist like motorcycle I advise to use throttle electric bicycle and get extra battery and work I was working on zoomo it doesn't work on uphill because its hard to paddle since I get throttle bicycle 500 Watts perfect I get 2 battery and use twist a lot no tired no headache and you can go any corner and even now in February I am making decent money with deliveroo

[@nicholasolivas317]

​@@randomtrendzthe try a bike with dual batteries like the electric Expedition.

[@julianfisher9755]

I use a touring bike mate and get on fine with it doing deliveries

[@PinderProductions]

That's great!

[@vanmantalks]

I was going to ask if you have ever had to cycle up bear road or elm grove then you answered. Im thinking of doing some deliveries myself between my van delivery jobs in Brighton. Is there enough work to go round? seems we have a lot of delivery workers in Brighton currently and there is a wait to sign up on deliveroo

[@PinderProductions]

Yes we do get sent up the hills, although the apps do show you which direction you are going. Anything in meadowview gets rejected 😂 There are less orders than there was a few months ago in Brighton but there is some work to go round

[@James-th7wb]

No, Uber Eats is dead, mate. Only getting pinged 2/3 times a day.

[@TacoXTaco]

I have #RattanLM750 fold up e-bike. Not bad at all, I only use battery during some of my deliveries depending on distance and $$. I made 150 on a good day. Between 15mph-35mph

[@shivaprakash8383]

Hi bro How much we can earn in Eastbourne with deliveroo and Uber we do delivery on electric cycle

[@PinderProductions]

When I went to Eastbourne last year on my bicycle it was pretty similar to Brighton in terms of fees, not sure how it is there now with cost of living though.

[@VioUk]

Hello Amigo. Is better ebike 👍🤩🤩Keep going and stay safe

[@PinderProductions]

Thank you!

[@nicholasolivas317]

Every courier in my town uses an ebike.

[@os2musicuk203]

I hope user are watching! I do the same deliveroo is my choice too

[@PinderProductions]

Thanks!

[@williamlundy-sarnowski869]

Cool I work for Uber eats too

[@mbk1251]

I bought a ebike from a high street second hand exchange shop by chance battery& charger where just left on the floor of shop near by bicycle but u could see into the battery pack as someone opened b4 hand wire all a best undone etc the sold to spares or repairs bargain paid very little for it thinking maybe the motor my a worst I could recoup money from using as either normal bike with regerula back wheel .it only need some wire soildering back on another jack for wall charger but over last two yr vertically all the parts have needed to renewed worn chain "S gear"cogs set uped the teeth ring size horrible to cycle with no power front wheel bearing main chank,what is the pre owner just grind through gears I, m now on my 2nd set of brake pads & fairy fingers have stolen back brake cage but just glad they didn't nick the complete bike now never leave unattended in public for more couple of mins all the big lost as been health stamina declines and get gain weight as well

[@moonshotsilver]

I like ebikes but I wonder if the battery near ones private areas has any EMF radiation. I suppose it's not sending a signal like WiFi does but still I'd like to put my EMF meter up to it. You know the worst thing I've seen is Christmas tree lights, they're even higher in EMF than your standard home internet router. I still want an ebike though. It might be a case of tinfoil around the balls. What could possibly go wrong lol

[@os2musicuk203]

I admire you

[@remirez2k3]

i have the local use of city ekibe program which are not 100 percent true full time ebikes they are pedal assist ebikes i did 10 miles two days ago hell of a work out yes they are easier than a regular bike but i love them...i intend to work into buying a pedal sist ebike personall i only work a downtown area and longest distance i have gotten in my three days of dashing so far is 1.5 miles

[@musicforever1891]

When is windy or raining try to ride in normal bike... 😂