Why I HATE the Tesla Model S Plaid, even though it's probably the greatest car ever made.

[@HooviesGarage]

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[@ModelA]

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[@dancearoundtheworld5360]

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[@RodderFiles]

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[@dancearoundtheworld5360]

@@ModelA Best american car was the mustang super affordable and lots of fun but model a was a famous car on the road at the time. What do you think of my opinion.

[@jsmaldokj]

Hoosier is like the nices guy in the world and this guy just screams douche. Its such a contrast.

[@GvR927461057374]

That dude is exactly who you expect to pop out one of these plaids. glasses and all

[@ek.74.914]

Right total d bag!

[@CraigaryMeyers]

This ‘007’ guy is a clown.

[@CoolJamJar]

...and as soon as he said "don't care about road feel or exhaust sounds" - I was done with this video!

[@afa304]

Except the LFB part. Tesla soy boys don't say Let's Go Brandon

[@brianhogue78]

DB called a Taycan ugly.

[@saltiestsalt6326]

You definetely can make an argument for this car but man....this guy is the living caricature of a "Tesla Guy" and every negative connotation attached to that word.

[@bkscott2010ss]

I was thinking the same thing...lol

[@jasper5097]

Most Tesla guys are liberal lmao. This guy is almost as conservative as they come.

[@craigpeel5983]

@@jasper5097 politics are not the entire world...

[@TalkinTech]

@@craigpeel5983 the Tesla bro made it about politics

[@pri0r_t0_a_weekago...fukwi48]

LMFAO🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Superevilfrog]

I may be in the minority, but I'd take the Taycan over the Model S any day. Of course, easy for me to say when I can't afford either.

[@shawnkenney2861]

I’d take the Taycan too.

[@adamogden5212]

the Taycan looks great in the design department and the interior makes the Tesla look like 90s Ford.

[@HashMaster1776]

Electric cars are not a long term solution by any means. Lithium mines are far worse for the environment, plus it’s documented that the ozone is closing up and healing.

[@aprelax8427]

So for my job i occasionally get to drive my bosses cars. He has a tycan and a model s and the tycan is so much nicer and In normal driving the Porsche is so much better. Can't afford one either 😂

[@HashMaster1776]

@Kiri Tiatia Otaraua O'C-TX5 ever seen a lithium mine?

[@pnsp33]

I am really not emotional for or against Tesla. They have their advantages. But that guy is hilarious and beyond silly. Yoke as F1 for the road, Porsche is uglier... but if someone with those sunglasses tell you, he doesn't care about roadfeel. I guess, everything is said.

[@GoldenCroc]

I like a "yoke". In a pure race car, driven on a track. On a street car, its really stupid without a super-variable ratio, as evidenced by people still having to turn it multiple times.

[@yorhaunit0026]

He's a duche 🤷‍♂️ How I came to that conclusion? He made me hate him in under a minute😂

[@TeddyPatrickS]

@@yorhaunit0026 Tesla guy?

[@samuelcalkin3516]

"Typical Tesla Owner"

[@pnsp33]

@@mokushiroku I still think, your expressions about the car and the comparisons are complete shite. But I am sorry for getting personal. That was not appropriate. Cheers!

[@TheGuccibane]

I mean I wouldn't expect the guy to want anything else other than a Tesla with the shape of those shades

[@robertgrantz6639]

Along with a list of other things.

[@Petrospect]

I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking of that however horribly presumptuous it is but...the shades fit the car. Definitely. EDIT: I cannot stand this man. I'm sorry. Terrible pants....and opinions.

[@Barfly76]

Bit of a douche canoe. Don’t need to see any other vids with him in it.

[@TalkinTech]

@@Petrospect Yeah this dude sucks lol He even did the LGB bullshit too

[@Fanta....]

They look massive on asians tho

[@gamby16a]

Interesting how Video Bob seems like a very cool, genuine dude, even with his whole look, while the Tesla bro is Das ÜberDöuche. Bob knows his sh*t and really seems to love cars and what he does.

[@RobertMoseley]

Awe thanks! I'm sure the other guy was just exited to meet a star like Hoovie!

[@superfly3628]

@@RobertMoseley You seem like such a cool dude! I remember seeing your video on the cheap Phantom and thinking that you and Hoovie should make a video. And now we're here!

[@jasperdemann5936]

If you ever bought a vehicle off Video Bob, you *know* it'd be well-prepared as he's a belt and braces sorta guy.

[@jasonc.776]

Yeah, the guy who butchers classic, irreplaceable Deloreans for profit is a car hero, and the photographer who happened to sell a car to Tyler Hoover is a jerk because he doesn't dress and act like you want him to

[@RobertMoseley]

@@jasonc.776 Less than 1% of all the Deloreans produced have been modified. Does this mean that every car customizer, like George Barris, Chip Foose, etc., are "butchers" because they customize cars? Without us, there wouldn't be anything but stock cars in movies and TV shows. Car shows would be pretty boring. Are you telling me that every car you own or have ever owned was bone stock without a single modification? Really? How boring.

[@sparky4878]

As a daily driver I can see why an EV can be attractive. But not as a toy to have in the garage for weekend fun drives and to enjoy as a driving experience. I want more than just being caught up in pointless 0-60 wars.

[@theploksoundtrackslaps860]

True. There’s nothing in the car. You just hop in, go: “wow, I can silently travel from 0-60 quickly, and….. that’s it.” Then you question your purchase and realize the Mazda Miata is the real answer to happiness, and would’ve been cheaper too.

[@joemcdonough7509]

@@theploksoundtrackslaps860 There's an old saying, it's more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow.

[@carholic-sz3qv]

Yes the model s plaid is already becoming too boring, every videos on internet is just 0-60 like wtf is going on!!!

[@accordinglyryan]

Yup. Nothing beats vroom vroom noises and a manual transmission.

[@Maarten_vd]

We'll have you tried? The model 3 performance for example has superb handling, it's brilliant to drive.

[@mitchellgildea6944]

Next week: I bought the world's cheapest Model S plaid! The following week: here's everything broken on my world's cheapest Model S plaid The following week: here's why the Car Wizard now owns Asgard, as well as Thor's hammer

[@NotUrDJ]

That's for richrebuils tbh

[@discordye4825]

He already bought one for car trek...keep up.

[@itsnotme07]

The week after that EuroAsian Bob has the world's cheapest Model S Plaid for sale.

[@1jbunceiii]

Bahahahah

[@DJ-nn6vg]

The problem with buying the cheapest Tesla anything is that a broken battery pack sets you back a minimum $10k

[@wisama7091]

Glad to hear they're stepping up the interior quality, but comparing it to Mercedes seems too soon

[@SKYZO4]

Maybe when they start to produce it over in berlin we'll have a talk about it but for now the quality out of the freemont factory ain't very good. i might be one of the few tesla fans who admits it 🤣

[@cpmanias]

@@SKYZO4 they will not produce the Model S in Germany

[@SKYZO4]

@@cpmanias i know, but i expect germans to step up the model y qc.

[@rodeo0808]

They are working with Mercedes hence the quality come up

[@SKYZO4]

@@rodeo0808 i don't expect less then

[@lsuman8883]

In this episode, Hoovie goes around in a Telsa with PC Principal

[@Frankillz]

🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@dunstunkishanth]

The glasses are spot on😂

[@E_LPacked]

Eh the LGB comment told me he’s inverse PC principal

[@richardispeachy]

Came here to say this!

[@floydpepper8289]

As Jay Leno said...we need more people driving electric cars as boring daily's so there's more oil left to make fuel for enthusiast cars.

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

Not for much longer. The russkis will see to that.

[@bosewicht2389]

@@wolfgangpreier9160 nah

[@MrManBuzz]

That just means that fuel prices will skyrocket to the point where only the rich can afford fuel. Without mass demand, it'll be much less viable for oil companies to produce oil. Don't underestimate the effects of economy of scale, or rather, when that scale dramatically shrinks.

[@mistermister2085]

People don't get this. Why not get point A to B people...to drive evs and those that drive for recreation can have all the oil :)

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

@@bosewicht2389 Optimist. I will remind you when Putin sends his bullies with the Z over the polish border to conquer east poland.

[@user-kw5ze5ky5q]

As an auto technician, I’ve gone on test drives with customers that have seriously scared the hell out of me. The acceleration of these cars is highly dangerous in my opinion. There’s too many people who will not respect that amount of power and bad things will happen. People just don’t need to accelerate that fast in everyday driving

[@rmkensington]

Thanks grandpa

[@georgeparker555]

Yeah I can imagine some of these inexperienced drivers getting in and crashing them not realizing how fast they are.

[@ShortFunnyTales]

That acceleration is not good for ones health

[@andrewhopkins1677]

I do think there should be an additional license required to own high HP performance cars.

[@JackTheripper911]

@@hhjhj393 just because you drive like shit doesn't mean everyone else drives like shit lmao. Not our fault you cant control your car kiddo.

[@zachboylan6694]

“Don’t care about the road feel” says it all about Tesla and their drivers

[@RAZGR1Z]

@@mokushiroku How about no.

[@lknowledge]

I own a performance model Tesla... And I care about those things... A lot. Thats why I have best of both worlds... tiny tuned japanese thingy without any assist or power anything to get my engine noise, get my slow but fast stupidness and being responsible of everything the car does and my Tesla as a daily and for those I need speed moments or as a relaxing thingy for my commute. But yeah... the guy seemed like a douche. I get parts of what hes trying to say but other than that he does seem to be a "bit" biased.

[@MuddyTubMedia]

@@lknowledge Miata?

[@lknowledge]

Tuned up old Datsun :P

[@MuddyTubMedia]

@@lknowledge respect

[@ckhayne2]

Had this discussion with my friend; 2sec. 0-60 is actually too fast for the average person. It's uncomfortable, and dangerous for some people that cannot react fast enough in real world situations.

[@xsleep1]

So you and your friend have done extensive studies on this I'm sure. Cultural anthropologist Genevieve Bell explained to the Wall Street Journal TECH site that extreme, fearful reactions to new technology are age old, and have even picked up speed alongside our rate of innovation. Critics of early steam-spewing locomotives, for example, thought “that women’s bodies were not designed to go at 50 miles an hour,” and worried that “[female passengers’] uteruses would fly out of [their] bodies as they were accelerated to that speed”-which, for the record, they did and will not.* Others suspected that any human body might simply melt at high speeds.

[@CarloPlaya]

@@xsleep1 only a yank could come up with answering valid concerns about extreme speed and acceleration with this pretentious crap

[@ramonmendoza2510]

This is not a car for the average person at 150k.

[@nealp885]

Yeah I would rather drive a “slow” car and ring the absolute shit out of it. On the road that is more fun.

[@rojiii69420]

The issue is it gains speed so damn fast it smokes the brakes after any hint of repeated stopping. Where other vehicles would hit 120 in 8 seconds and weigh 2800lbs this does it 5 seconds and weighs 5000lbs with brakes from a 08 camaro.

[@MichaelJClemente]

Since when did 0-60 times become the defining characteristic of an enthusiast car? The Plaid is kind of a one-trick pony, and that trick makes you nauseous. As much as I see the importance of EVs in the future, I can’t subscribe to the argument that a Plaid suddenly makes all other enthusiast cars no longer matter (and I don’t think Tyler or most enthusiasts do either).

[@Tafari271]

They guy is an idiot. What about handling, looks, those high notes a car makes and so much others lol

[@supra1jzed]

This is EXACTLY it. Unfortunately the mindless masses are that stupid. They latch right the fuck on to something like that and ignore all other short comings. They ALL have completely failed to realize that we never see these doing roll race events, 1/2 mile, or standing mile events...against anything respectable. They also fail to read time slips and see that the Tesla is getting it's ass handed to it, HARD, on the big end of the track. They also fail to realize I can take my daily beater 2002 Camry and rape the damn thing at a race track...just do a 25 lap run. Game over. The cannonball record for EV's is DAYS slow lmao. Put the Tesla against anything respectable on the race track, it'll get it's ass handed to it lap after lap. It'll overheat and said other car will continue to shred it's tires off the remainder of the day. Literally a one trick pony. Unfortunately the mindless public are a single track mind.

[@adamhayden5152]

Exactly! I feel like electric cars are missing that connection you get with a ICE car.

[@gvi341984]

Because of traffic lights and stop signs make it so.

[@NavGTI]

A 'fast car' is a car that's fast in any regard. Acceleration, top speed, handling, track times, etc. Acceleration is the easiest one of those four to do, just add a huge amount of power and the grip to get that power going. But the Plaid will never be 'the fastest car in the world' like most Tesla and Musk stans claim it to be, because it's only got 1 of those 4 characteristics. It's so overhyped it's not even funny anymore. They as always prefer crazy numbers and dumb gizmos over build quality and longevity. Teslas are at the bottom of my list for desirable EVs.

[@thecoreelementsmoto]

That guy called the Porsche uglier than that Ikea store model s? Yoke does not equal "f1 for the road" lol

[@MrManBuzz]

Excuse me, didn't you see his glasses? They invalidate any opinion you have. He's an F1 driver.

[@Wallyworld30]

@@MrManBuzz His stupid glasses were as practical as that yoke steering wheel.

[@mikemx55]

Well.. the Porsche is ugly as fuck. And the naming is just an atrocity

[@AI-qd4vb]

@@mikemx55 Miguel, deja las drogas

[@cjr4516]

I think the Taycan is the best looking electric car by far

[@yosemite-e2v]

I don't know if "The fastest bumper car ever" will capture many hearts if the driving experience is as sterile as distilled water. The people in search of a transportation appliance will love them, especially when they are self driving, since they'd rather be looking at their phone than actually driving anyway.

[@gustavodelamora3676]

Have you driven one? I'm a car nut, but also worked for Tesla. I got to drive one of if not the first P100D ludicrious cars in San Diego, it's not a Plaid, but 2nd quickest car Tesla has made. They're great cars, they have their place. Although I do feel there is a performance cieling we are going to hit on these cars.

[@boilerhousegarage]

All EVs drive terribly numb. Yes, I've driven most, including the Model S P100D with ludicrous.

[@UncleKennysPlace]

I'm in it for the 9.25@150.

[@gustavodelamora3676]

@@boilerhousegarage The P100D was goo in a straight line and decent in curves, it was never a track car. Drive a newer Plaid or even a Performance Model 3 in track mode on some actual twisties. It will put a smile on your face.

[@gabrielgingras814]

@@boilerhousegarage Have you driven the Model 3?

[@johnr5252]

Judging from the stories I see on line the cost of repairs on a Tesla are beyond outrageous. A damaged driver side door for $10,000? Replace the bumper, $5,000. Then you have to wait a month for the repairs. Ridiculous.

[@harrybarnes3539]

Yeah rich people are destroying everything

[@crinixx]

Insurance?

[@crinixx]

You never need to do maintenance, and I can drive 1400 miles for $150. Do better than that.

[@johnr5252]

@@crinixx have a fender bender and let me know how it goes. Tesla is garbage.

[@davidwest6019]

@@crinixx Until the battery dies, which it did on my P90D...$15,000 repair at the time. Sold it for parts cause that made no sense to me. When the batteries truly last 10 years, and range is 350 miles in all weather and conditions, and the battery can be recharged in 10 minutes or less at any gas station, EVs will reign supreme. Until then? Its basically a high/high-ish end sports car with less range.

[@Youcallthesebagels_]

This guy is the antithesis of a car enthusiast

[@honestyisthegucci]

He is like a GTA character

[@CarloPlaya]

@@honestyisthegucci spot on 😆

[@heyitsfranklynn168]

I.C.E. fans are CAR enthusiasts. Tesla fans are tech enthusiasts. Simple as that.

[@LordManhattan]

He's r/Tesla IRL

[@MiGujack3]

@@heyitsfranklynn168 But they are not true tech enthusiasts either, just brand drones waiting the next OTA update to ruin their experiences without realizing. If that's the future we're heading, it's pretty dark.

[@phat-b6771]

That xlr and the red Eldorado are dope I’m glad people still appreciate those cars

[@eaauto6182]

Facts

[@saimamerzougui7981]

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[@wisdomSP]

Thank you for sharing your time with Video Bob. He's a great guy and creates interesting content. I hope you continue to collaborate with him. Both of you guys are such good people.

[@RobertMoseley]

Thanks!

[@euroasianbob9268]

Even the spam bot here loves him! ;)

[@flyingobjects7247]

Back when Hewlett Packard was a much bigger company every site had at least 1 Taurus station wagon as a pool car. Department managers were given 4 door Taurus's for company business. I was told, at one time, HP was the 3rd largest Ford dealer in the US. The cigarette lighter in the Bluesmobile had better not work.

[@Jokwoo]

“F1 style for the road”…perfect if your daily commute is Silverstone or any other racetrack. Taycan is “uglier”…seriously? Seriously? Way too much Tesla Koolaid in that one. What a guy.

[@Andrew4181975]

The only thing I don't like about the Porsche Electric car is that they call the top one a Turbo, What ? That is dumb.

[@Thorkell6969]

Yeah "uglier" wtf ? The station wagon version is the coolest looking electric car

[@tim3172]

@@Thorkell6969 Sorry to hear about you eyesight if you think wagons look cool. LensCrafters might be able to help you.

[@Thorkell6969]

@@tim3172 whatever man

[@vr6gls]

@@tim3172 I’ll bet you would certainly love it if Porsche took that same car, lifted it one inch, added body cladding and called it an SUV. 🙄 That’s the only way Americans will buy station wagons.

[@Briggsian]

Hoovie's first reaction to the launch: "That doesn't feel good" The owner's reaction to Hoovie's launch: "Fuck I hate this" We've really lost the plot here. The car is incredibly fast, sure, but that's all it is. It's redundant as soon as something faster/quicker enters the scene. Without something to make people passionate about the vehicle, an EV (of any performance level) is just as replaceable as any econobox crossover or smartphone for that matter.

[@geraskatinas1846]

What the absolute f$ck are you talking about? You can drive slow if you want. Its a 4 door family sedan with a computer thats performance is equal to a ps5 and youre complaining. You can even make the car sound like a v8 through speakers if thats what youre into.

[@Briggsian]

@@geraskatinas1846 what I'm saying is that the Plaid, and the lesser Teslas, don't make me feel anything beyond acceleration forces. Fantastic as a daily driver, but not something I would ever care about owning. Some automobiles are more than the sum of their parts, and the Plaid isn't one of those. Its main selling feature is that it is painfully fast. Beyond that, it's exactly like ever other Tesla, and the majority of other EVs.

[@geraskatinas1846]

@@Briggsian excuse me.. Which other tesla has that size of a screen with the performance of a ps5. Which other EV has that much range? Which other tesla has such a wide stance? Which other EV have an autopilot. I could go on and on, it has a computer in the back, it is incredibly comfortable and its incredibly fast. What more does a car need to have in your eyes?

[@Briggsian]

@@geraskatinas1846 I don't buy a car for its processing capability or its ability to drive itself. When I buy a vehicle, I do so because of how it makes me feel, which is a culmination of how it looks and sounds, its performance, and it's ergonomics. I would personally take an E-Tron GT over a Model S, even though it is objectively worse in performance and range, due to the fact I much prefer the Audi's styling, the sounds it makes, the build quality, and the fact it has an interior that wasn't designed, first and foremost, to save money.

[@Briggsian]

@@geraskatinas1846 That said, I'd take a manual Audi R8 (V8 or V10) over either EV, absolutely zero questions asked.

[@cabeallen1277]

Sorry Tyler, the interior is not S-Class quality. After 1-2 years, the true material quality shines through with delaminating vinyl covered panels and painted finishes that rub off under normal use. Panel gaps and misalignments are still an issue in 2022. Tesla is pseudo-luxury or quasi-luxury at best.

[@LouisWritingSomethingCrazy]

The diet coke of luxury. Just one calorie! But not luxury enough.

[@mantassmilg3826]

And that steering “wheel” just sucks

[@danielstefanovic2604]

more like c class though, mercedes has been cheaping out for years.

[@lsorense]

Tesla is American luxury like a Cadillac although that might be a bit unfair to Cadillac. American luxury is lots of gadgets and stuff that looks good. It is not high quality well made stuff. I am not sure that too many cars are actually luxury anymore.

[@redbaron6805]

@@lsorense Not sure what point you are trying to make. German "luxury" is leasing a car for 3 years and dumping it before the maintenance and depreciation bankrupts you several times over...

[@e30m3bmw7]

The question to why I don’t want to own a Tesla is perfectly answered in this video. This tool presses all of my buttons. 😂

[@NO3V]

"I don't like how that guy over there drinking beer looks. Get me a glass of your finest urine."

[@e30m3bmw7]

@@NO3Vfortunately, there are other options. 👍🏻

[@JasonWW2000]

Don't associate the tools with the cars. Tools can buy anything you like. It can't be helped.

[@svpracer98]

I have never seen a more perfect comment.

[@roodick85]

Dude they're all tools lol

[@AC-dk3ve]

Years ago I expected a Tesla model S to replace my Mercedes S class, but the quality is just no comparison. Years after, owners still complain about Tesla QC. Hope one day Tesla could build something like the quality of an EQS.

[@bobbybooshawp6107]

Too bad the eqs looks like an old Honda civic. At least the electric BMWs still look like BMW.

[@jakelannetti3128]

Seeing this guy pull up with his shades, white Tesla and $40,000 watch tell you everything you need to know on first sight

[@xsleep1]

He is in Vegas, right?

[@theveyron164]

when he said it the taycan was uglier than the tesla i couldnt believe it lmao

[@michaelduffek2866]

and the LGB commentary...

[@nealp885]

@@michaelduffek2866 what did he say about that?

[@ekapus]

@@nealp885 he was talking about the price going up and just said "LGB". Money sure doesn't buy class.

[@jrd33]

"Why would you ever buy anything else?" . . . "162 thousand dollars ..." That's why.

[@jonmopar7917]

Having a fast EV is like watching an action movie on mute…

[@user-fi6dl6ow8l]

Thanks for watching, hit me up I have something to share with you 📩✉️📝.

[@DolphinDivingChamp]

in defense of the taycan, they did make a wagon version that is the best looking ev to date

[@carholic-sz3qv]

The taycan is that expensive because it has all wheel steering, carbon ceramic brakes and much bigger standard brakes than any tesla, better build quality….. Porsche just need to use more aluminum to reduce the weight of that car.

[@raphaelrodrigues1645]

Also, the Taycan corners and brakes better. But anyway, the Panamera on the track is still faster

[@DolphinDivingChamp]

@@carholic-sz3qv it really just come down to the taycan is an electric sports car, a plaid is a sporty electric car

[@carholic-sz3qv]

@@DolphinDivingChamp lol…… they are all sport cars with things like torque vectoring, air suspensions…… it’s no joke. Unfortunately they are way too heavy.

[@DolphinDivingChamp]

@@carholic-sz3qv torque vectoring and air suspension doesnt make it a sports car, my jeep has that

[@man_on_wheelz]

My mom used to have a car like that "eggplant" 1994 Ford Taurus Station wagon, except hers was tan on tan. I was with her when she got it back when I was like 7 or 8. She was trading in her 4-door 1986 Buick Skyhawk (her first car) and man did the jump in technology and space do wonders for this little car enthusiast! You're talking power windows, loads of space in the back seat, A REVERSE FACING THIRD ROW JUMP SEAT!!! I was stoked when she got that car! Even got rear-ended in it once while my cousin and I was sitting in the jump seat. Unfortunately I was dozing off at the time so I didn't see the impact, just felt it. Minor bump, no damage. She's had 4 cars since then, but I do miss those simpler times.

[@ogalief]

Was yours fancy enough to have a CD player? A little nicer than what I grew up with. A 1994 Corolla. Only option it had was an automatic transmission. No AC and power nothing. Navy blue vinyl inserts in the seats would burn your leg hair off in the summer. Family replaced it with a new 2010 Corolla S and were mind blown at how luxurious it was. Now they drive a Tesla

[@mistermoonJB]

I had burgundy 95 Taurus wagon as a company car for a couple years. It was great!

[@man_on_wheelz]

@@ogalief You know, I do not remember if it had a CD player, perhaps a tape deck? I'm not thinking it had a CD player though.

[@antonarcane93]

First dude is classic example of someone trying too hard but still not getting it. Second dude is classic example of someone not trying at all but oozing with getting it.

[@StreetPreacherr]

It's STILL such a GREAT line! "You made a time machine! Out of a DeLorean?!?" lol! It just expresses the perfect amount of AMAZEMENT and then extreme CONFUSION...

[@Peter-MH]

Somehow this just looks totally un-exciting! Love watching launches in stuff like 720s or F8’s, but this is like the quickest thing ever, but with all the emotion removed!

[@jimkear6749]

Like a supermodel, with no nipples and badly trimmed, odd colored "opportunity," no soul. Aside from the launch novelty, it looks and sounds like a nice Kia perhaps. Me'h, tuned it off at the six minute mark, just too much dog and pony launch focus by the owner. I've never turned off a Hoovie, but this wasn't a Hoopty episode, it was a validation video for his friend. Pass.

[@Mrmeowmao]

It doesnt have life that an actual motor does. You have no auditory stimulation and the feel of the engine.

[@averagemanful]

Makes me think of the Smug episode of South Park. You can really spot a Telsa driver a mile away, they are the ones bent over and smelling their own farts.

[@thomasmaitland1368]

Hi from the UK, we have a KZbin channel over here called "Harry's Garage" I think he summed up electronic cars really well. He basically said, in every way they're better however they only offer a 2d experience. You don't get the sounds and smells, your not engaged with changing gear, and for that reason he feels they'll always be a place for classic cars, and I tend to agree with him. Also it always makes me smile when Americans moan about fuel prices... we're currently paying over $8 a gallon here (🇬🇧) for gas and more for diesel 😔 Thanks for all the great content Hoovie👍

[@spacefren3826]

The thing is, we aren’t used to paying as much as we are. It makes everything more expensive because of the cost to transport goods. If it ever gets to $8 a gallon, we’ll use it to burn down the White House.

[@dmorga1]

Harry has a good channel (many viewers across the pond, as well!) if a little boring for the younger viewers, perhaps. I like his takes on things. I think Jay Leno said it best when he said the electric car might do for the internal combustion car what internal combustion engines did for the horse: it freed them up for recreation only. I think he's right: the electric car can be basically everyone's daily or beater, and for those with the wherewithal to have an older classic car, you can now enjoy it as a pleasure vehicle.

[@VL1975]

Ya..I am subscribed to Harry. He's great. He basically breaks down the downfalls of electric especially for classic cars. But in his last video he said that using sustainable fuels is way better than electric. To me, the whole electric thing is a political scam. Where the hell do they think we get electricity from!?? Even Harry pointed that out.

[@thomasmaitland1368]

@@spacefren3826 at least it won't be us burning the white house down this time😉 60% of our fuel cost is Tax, however I work on a farm and we get to use Red Diesel that isn't Taxed as heavily. However that is now at £1.20 a Litre( I'll let you convert it this time😁) over harvest we'll be burning around 2000 Litres a day, on to of a fertiliser going from around £200 a tonne to over £900 things are looking worrying as we have to plan a year ahead. Hopefully on of the Russian billionaires will take Putin out for a special cocktail 😵

[@thomasmaitland1368]

@@dmorga1 I think that's a fair point, I find Hoovie easier to watch. I'd forgotten about that Jay Leno quote, I think he makes a very good point too. I'm open to an electronic car however I'm not totally convinced about the total environmental impact of the full life of the car, and they're so bloody expensive at the moment. I wonder how reliable electronic cars will be when they get pasted on to second and third owners?

[@abassi1173]

Love you Hoovie, but clearly not a automotive journalist 😂 I don’t believe any Tesla is anywhere near the quality of an S-class inside.

[@DruidB19]

It's not even the quality of a Hyundai Ioniq 5 inside... S class Pfft!

[@LordManhattan]

Daddy Doug is pulling his belt off as we speak

[@jefffaller8474]

I don't think the S Class is a Technology platform, I think its an fine Luxury ICE dinosaur that does a great job of making old technology feel ohhhh soooo goood.

[@djarcas]

Which of the 2022 models are you comparing it against exactly?

[@AI-qd4vb]

@@jefffaller8474 You think wrong then. Top notch dynamics, insulation and comfort all while making an ICE feel as smooth as an electric car. Thats not old technology. Thats the best you can buy out there. Unfortunately the EQS is a bit of a let down for now, but once we get the real S in the EV world, that car will be a benchmark once again.

[@goodc.2853]

Just seeing how fast the dodge pickup becomes a speck at 5:08 is terrifying

[@miguelojera2356]

As a person who likes to hold on things and only replace it when it's completely unsalvageable/unusable, electric cars doesn't sound appealing. Also Tesla's track record on quality control and reliability doesn't help either.

[@DrTheRich]

It's why I bought a Ford Model A from 1929 last year at age 29 as my first car. And i'll probably keep it for the rest of my life. (already imagining the time they will ban those cars of the road, just for the fact that they don't have AI driving it, and people can't imagine how unsafe driving a car yourself would be)

[@Misterfairweather]

For a reboot to get the same feeling it would have to be something that was defunct, in my opinion that leaves something like a Fisker Karma as the most likely Back to the Future car.

[@eaauto6182]

I was thinking the same thing

[@yahstino]

The Karma is still being made though. The brand is now called Karma but the vehicle is essentially the same.

[@eaauto6182]

Yea but it’s probably gonna be discontinued soon

[@Jeff_S...]

One thumb down for EV marketing. Two thumbs up for Video Bob, what a cool dude.

[@dereknicol5284]

Agree. The person who sold me my classic Corvette recently said to me.. 'Tesla have ruined it, nothing competes'. I also own a Tesla Model 3 SR+, the slowest cheapest Tesla, it still does 0-60 in five seconds.. when i were a lad the very best cars in the Top Trumps card game could do five seconds.

[@Shiftheads]

Sr+ is great. Drove my buddies on a road course and caught and passed a c6 zo6 with ease. The lower weight makes it the best handling tesla out there

[@nealp885]

But does it have to all be about speed?

[@ghoulbuster1]

Tesla cars look amazing the first year, then the car falls apart and you can't fix it.

[@SpecialKLSX]

@@sommebuddy but when they do break your fucked, as Tyler has proven

[@curmudgeon1933]

@@SpecialKLSX ...Tyler also just spent $15,000 putting a new Capristo exhaust on his constantly broken Lamborghini Diablo. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4uoXq2EiLqenpo

[@Jacobk66]

Every car enthusiast should hate you too Tyler! 😂 Kidding!

[@BatLB]

I think we basically reached "Top Acceleration" for Electric Cars, more is just stupid, but theres still ALOT to be done in regards to range. The Plaid maybe shows 350 Miles after charging but accelerate like that 10 times and you can charge it again. We need a Plaid for the mass market with 500 Miles real range - And that will be the day my diesel will collect dust.

[@herrbrahms]

500 miles weighing less than 5000 lbs. It's an engineering challenge, to put it mildly.

[@BatLB]

@@herrbrahms it should be. Gasoline cars had over a 100 years to get where they are now. Electric cars, while older, didnt receive much investment until recently.

[@SuperDirk1965]

What we need is an electric car that accelerates at a normal rate and has a top speed near the legal limit. Price and range will be acceptable without any effort then. But for one reason or another faster, faster faster is the only thing manufacturers are interested in.

[@BatLB]

@@SuperDirk1965 yeah you can drive that car, im not interested in a car that accelerates like trash and caps out at 80.

[@SuperDirk1965]

@@BatLB And where and when will you be driving that car you like at the speeds you're proposing?

[@benjaminshaw80]

“Not that bad” is not what I want to tell people about the one thing that I touch every time I drive a car.

[@troyhelms2371]

I love the yoke in my Model X. I miss it every time I switch vehicles.

[@LostNotForgotton]

That's quite a nice car collection but of all those cars I actually wanted to see more of the Fiero and all the mods that was done to it.

[@Chrisb8s]

and if I had my choice of any of them, I would take the Model S

[@troykruse5161]

I’m right there with you 👍🏻

[@saimamerzougui7981]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2XXdZ2lf8ubepY

[@niagra898]

Yes..we need more plastic cars on display.

[@friguy4444]

I don't get it. One KZbinr says that Tesla's are not built to very high build standards at all and are supposedly notorious for it. Then the next tells us they are of the highest order. Which is it?

[@vibingwithvinyl]

14:17 They're not going to remake BTTF. They can't. Co-writer and director Robert Zemeckis, who has final rights to all films in the Back to the Future franchise, has stated that he will block all attempts to remake or reboot the original film.

[@Nikmg0]

Bless him!

[@houseofno]

I applaud this. Not every hit movie needs a do-over. Here's another bonus - the copyright laws were recently changed so that they couldn't legally do a BTTF remake until 75 years AFTER Bob Gale and Robert Zemeckis are DEAD. He is still alive as of this writing so do the math on that one, people.

[@rwieber79]

Good, let's hope there is some way he can make it stand after he is gone as well or some jackass will certainly try to do it and ruin it like many others have been.

[@dr-ok3sn]

greatest car ever made? what it the bs?

[@hi_tech_reptiles]

I drive a 99 Taurus Wagon currently, maroon. The last of the bubble Taurus lol. It's only 83k miles... But it has a little fire damage, tons of under carriage rust, and electrical issues. But the engine is tip top lol.

[@sethsteener]

My neighbor has a Blue Model S Plaid and he gave me a ride in it. The acceleration, like Hoovie said, hurt. The interior was really nice, even in the back, and the whole thing was much better than the P85D he used to have. Added bonus that there wasn’t any switchgear that I could find in my 2006 ML350. (P.S. my neck hurt for a day after the experience)

[@akira28shima32]

That’s what it take to beat the Chiron.

[@Ryukachoo]

Hoovie keeps talking about the death of gas, when is he going to do an electric conversion on a classic? Best of both worlds

[@davidbarnsley8486]

So good to see video bob again still doing his bit I completely agree with him about the 80s 👍👍

[@hf7188]

I mean, I know the guy just sold you a car and he was next to you, but on par with Mercedes S class build quality?! Come on, man...

[@jasona8964]

No way the Cadillac wreath and crest was mounted that high on the C pillar from the factory!

[@TheWombat2012]

“Within 25 feet” and it unlocked for a random person. My new Mustang won’t even unlock the passenger side door for my wife if I am standing at the drivers door. That’s the way you do basic “safety”. I don’t want my car unlocking for someone when I’ve walked off into a shop. 337 miles? I’m Australian…a Queenslander…we DO do that for a day trip.

[@castorchua]

Buy a boat

[@Chase_AM]

I have to be real, that seemed like the most stale driving experience and the least joyful I’ve seen Hoovie when hitting the accelerator. BRB, gonna go buy another combustion vehicle.

[@Chase_AM]

@mmmmmmm Just bought another manual car Saturday that’s getting paint and a fresh motor. I’m stocking up on them while I can!

[@zoltore23]

I love Tongue-in-cheek Tyler. Pure gold.

[@Staatus_Quo]

So glad that the energy of Tesla Bro was offset by Video Bob at the end. I was cringing at that dude, and then; serenity now hit with Bob. Bob rocks!

[@Dobi714]

Holy crap thats his house?! He is right up the street from me, I always laugh at that fake cop car when I drive by.

[@Wallyworld30]

You live next to a Movie Car museum! I'd have to sneak over there.

[@RobertMoseley]

Don't come to my house. lol

[@Dobi714]

@@RobertMoseley Sir I make no promises if I happen to see you outside at all lol

[@TheRealAlpha2]

Hey cool, Video Bob! This channel has all the best Bobs. The problem with hero cars to day is that it's too expensive for studios to do shows and movies that feature car chases and stuff anymore. The last thing even close was the Bayformers movies We'll never see another Cannonball Run movie or Knight Rider show unless they're all CG like those Hotwheels cartoons from the early 2000s, and that's even without Teslas.

[@BabyJesus66]

Sheeeeit you must have never seen Mad Max Fury Road.

[@danielmarshall4587]

Oh this vid keeps on giving lovely to see VIDEO BOB.

[@mitchellgildea6944]

I died laughing when the camera smacked into Hoovie's face 😂🤣

[@Vilrodo]

They are nice but survive-ability of the batteries in the cold northern winters is the quest they have not worked on enough.

[@GoldenCroc]

Never heard anything special about that compared to other climates, where did you get that from?

[@DoctorSkillz]

With global warming, that won’t be a problem.

[@davesnothere8859]

the fact that they aren't serviceable and have no value after the batteries life is a serious issue. Paying 100k for, lets be generous, 10 years use. First guy is OK maybe the second guy but the poor folks will have nothing left when it gets to them.

[@TheSlipperyBrick]

@@GoldenCroc Batteries don't do well in the cold - decreases lifespan and charge.

[@GoldenCroc]

@@TheSlipperyBrick Sure. But where is the data that this affects Tesla with their active thermal managment to any meaningful degree?

[@Kevin-cf8uu]

Teslas are amazing but to simply count out all the other options coming down the line is pretty naive. I am hoping to get a BMW (I know.. I know.. but I just want one) once the EV range and look of them improve :) Though a model x is pretty cool too.

[@catlyst8563]

Man me too those beaver teeth hold me back

[@JackTheripper911]

"Tesla's are amazing" lol no.

[@TheZakk28]

The fact that the guy says “LGB” as a reason for inflation was enough to turn me off. Frankly, we come for car content. Not for political nonsense.

[@bobbyc2736]

Can’t blame him for being right

[@scottsinaz3000]

Relax, it was one quick off the cuff comment and Hoovie ignored it! If they had spent the rest of the video talking about FJB then I could understand why you would be upset. Lighten up Francis!

[@jasper5097]

@@bobbyc2736 cringe

[@redbaron6805]

@@bobbyc2736 Except of course there is zero evidence from that being correct. Economic cycles happen regardless of who is president. The amount of control any president has over the economy, stock market or oil prices is near zero or less.

[@bobbyc2736]

@@redbaron6805 sure..keep thinking that….but if it was under the Trump administration you guys would be blaming him for everything under the son…we where energy independent under Trump…that’s a fact

[@NielsHeusinkveld]

Video Bob seems a lot more charged about his cars than Tesla dude..

[@lancenutter1067]

I’m a car nut. Owned 98 cars so far… have 4 in the driveway at current time, including a 2002 Porsche Boxster S. I love my Porsche and just had a great 100 mile twisty road drive yesterday. Having said that, I also own a 2014 Fiat 500e for daily driving and commuting. Also love that car. Electrics really are special and have a ‘soul’. I love the instant power and even the electric whine as she tears off down the road, from the few stoplights I experience every day. Super good stereo with an Alter Bridge album usually blasting away. I haven’t decided if the argument that electrics actually are worse for the planet is true or not, but I think I lean toward they will help and obviously, oil is a limited resource over time. But also, my favorite thing about this car is the 2 cents a mile cost to drive it. If I can keep from burning off the front tires all the time, Maintenance is literally 0$… electric cars are here to stay and, can live symbiotically alongside the gas one. IMHO. Many happy drives all you gear heads! ☺️

[@0Heeroyuy01]

EV's have no soul they are RC trash

[@DrTheRich]

They can't live together if politicians have anything to say about it. They want every single gas car in existence scrapped and recycled into electrics...

[@0Heeroyuy01]

@@DrTheRich despite the fact when you count the batteries and still using none renewable resources to charge those EV trash cars

[@DrTheRich]

@@0Heeroyuy01 For now...

[@0Heeroyuy01]

@@DrTheRich they might get off using none reenable energy, but good luck on the last one. and have fun paying thousands to replace a battery that needs to be sent in to be changed

[@djjazm]

That guy was the typical Tesla Fan Boy what a Douche, most of them aren't true car guys more so geeks with the latest tech toy.

[@MrManBuzz]

That's the feeling I got too. He's doesn't care about engine not or how a car feels? 0-60 can't be beaten, but last I heard there's way more to the experience of driving a car than that.

[@joecool509]

that is no joke. we have a model Y LR with a 0-60 of 4.8 and it feels fast.. couldn't imagine the model S plaid. it changes how you think about a car... no more warming up the engine and waiting for oil to circulate, just get in and drive. short trips to the store dont give me start/stop engine anxiety and its pumps out the heat immediately or before if you want.

[@kungfupanda7230]

joe im sorry to tell you but you are suppost to wait for the batteries to warm and the engines in a tesla

[@JaySlow7]

I work on a navy base and keep a halloween life size skeleton in the trunk. They do random car inspections and its always a hoot watching the "i just found a skeleton" reaction. Video bob is great.

[@VL1975]

Video Bob is cool as hell. I watched him in a video talk about about his Blues Brothers Dodge Monaco he had to sell. The guy is a legend. You could've gone longer with him! You just blew through like you didn't care about his cars.

[@jmoney7289]

Yo VIDEOBOB is the man I'm glad I'm not the only fan. I enjoy all his content, from air fryers, to Rolex watches, and most importantly busted and janky / deprecated cars. Which are great junky or not I love them all.

[@tamarab8972]

I’d personally disagree calling S best car ever made

[@victorkrivor2174]

there is zero chance that the quality is even remotely close to Mercedes, its a car built with profits and technology in mind, not quality and longevity.

[@jmoney7289]

So almost every mass market vehicle now

[@CaaaramelApples]

The Porsche is supposedly “Uglier” than the Tesla… Tesla owners really are blind

[@TylerL220]

Exactly what I was thinking. Delusional

[@Raaaphael]

The Taycan is a nice looking car. Especially with the Mission E wheels.

[@CaaaramelApples]

Yes I edited this lmao, I initially worded it incorrectly like a buffoon

[@Raaaphael]

@@CaaaramelApples No worries 😀.

[@redbaron6805]

No one has ever driven behind a Taycan and though anything except, someone took a bathtub, flipped it upside down and put wheels on it...

[@Buffalobulltofta]

Wow, that Tesla guy is the exact reason i'm sticking with my Volvo 240.

[@voicetube]

Wow, I had the opportunity to MEET video Bob here in Dallas at the North Texas Irish Festival two years ago! Bob, if you're reading this, do you remember me, the voice actor that you met @ the booth run by the woman who used to be a DJ at The Eagle?

[@Northeast_progeny]

LOVE the concept of EV and will happily take one in the far future but it's not feasible at all for me for the foresseabvel future. I make less than 35K a year so they are still WAY too expensive for me. The repair network is still not close enough to where I live. Where I live we get winters where the temp can go below -10F at night so my standard 110AC outdoor plug is not gonna cut it for winter charging, I would have to have an electrician make 2 fast charging stations considering when it snows I park at a different spot in my driveway to be out of the way for the plow driver. Overall EV is still just way too expensive as fuck for a rural working class poor Mainer. Give me my 2017 Fusion with a simple 2.5l non-turbo gas motor anyday for the foreseeable future.

[@benjaminmorton4958]

I actually think the road will get a little crazy when *everyone* is driving a super fast car - road rage incidents will become more violent. I think the government will regulate that speed and slow them all down.

[@2148aa]

Yup we will need protection from ourselves. You will see minimal miles per kilowatts hours standards because of electricity shortages. No free rides.

[@man_on_wheelz]

I don't think any regulations will physically slow cars down due to road rage. Just look at cars today compared to how they were in the 30s. Driver of a Hellcat Durango raging with someone in a Corvette, could get real messy real fast compared to two blokes battling it out in a Cadillac Phaeton and a Duesenberg.

[@Simiocrates]

Not every electric car will be fast, economy cars will still hover around the 200hp range

[@Chrisb8s]

seriously.. have you seen what happens when trucks are too fast.. the raptor or the other big ass trucks that think they are sport car drivers?

[@ramonmendoza2510]

I think it's going to take around 10+ years for everybody to have a car as fast as this. At that time probably car will be able to drive themselves and have very advanced avoid collision systems to decrease risks.

[@DriverGuy23]

Toyota > Security is a issue, don’t let them open the door unless the key fob is within 3ft. Tesla > Nobody cares about security. As long as the key fob is within 100ft, let anyone open the doors.

[@alexandruflorin5668]

The car is incredible. The owner...

[@RD-km4yi]

Self-centered right wing yahoo?

[@alexandruflorin5668]

@@RD-km4yi idc about american politics. He just comes out as a person you wouldnt enjoy having near, though its just a clip and maybe he's just camera shy. Dont be so harsh.

[@Henry_Jones]

0-60 is a pissing match. We dont live at WOT

[@coflyer2949]

You might not.... but I sure as fuck do when I'm going to rip and tear some demons

[@illegalmachine]

I mean....EV's are almost better not at WOT. No gear changes. No engine/exhaust sound. Amazing cars in traffic.

[@Welcometofacsistube]

@@coflyer2949 lol sure you do son

[@coflyer2949]

@@Welcometofacsistube ever learn to take a joke? Lighten up. Ever heard of the game doom as well?

[@Nordic_Mechanic]

people on cocaine disagree

[@johanwejedaldesign]

I happen to like to toss my car around tight and twisty roads and as long as even the lightest Tesla (the Model 3) feel too big, heavy and clumsy, there is still room for other kinds of cars.

[@PaintGuy]

I think the razor phone comparison is spot on Tyler. These new electric cars will disappear as fast as they came. And while they'll just keep making new ones and people will buy them, there will always be a place for people who care about simpler times. A time where you didn't have to get new car every two years because they improved the cameras or something. A time where you didn't need to pay a subscription just to access features built into the vehicle.

[@lsorense]

Oh like those simple times when the car needed a new look every model year? At least they stopped doing that so you actually have a chance to buy parts to fix things.

[@OdykKayne]

Except a Tesla feels like an APPLIANCE. Driving one or being a passenger in one, I do not feel that any of them have one ounce of soul.... :(

[@jasper5097]

Mhm see I trust tyler more. Also I own one and you're clearly talking out of your ass.

[@jjmarz1001]

Just like the creator.

[@hermatred572]

Leather ipad chariot. With worse than apple quality!

[@theploksoundtrackslaps860]

They are soulless cars. They’re electric. No matter the tech, electric cars can and will never have, let alone even FEEL as authentic as a real engine.

[@hermatred572]

@@theploksoundtrackslaps860 electric go karts slap you just haven't driven the right electric car

[@NicFlicksRL]

LMAO this guy, backseat driving with those glasses

[@joey69d]

Uh no. The taycan is better looking. Especially the cross Turismo.

[@mikep8080]

I do find it amusing the space balls plaid speed reference and even having the dash do the plaid speed effect

[@bryduhbikeguy]

I love the references and the Badge.Kudos Mr.Musk !

[@harrisonkayeX]

I love that you support smaller channels. You operate a great channel, too

[@msiraco]

He really has to slide the LGB in there? Cmon.

[@Boffin55]

We can only assume they're big supporters of the LGBTQ lifestyle, and were simply shortening it to not stretch out the video as much.

[@JohnDoe-dc6nr]

Lets go brandon bs!? Which means fuck biden right?

[@msiraco]

@@JohnDoe-dc6nr yeah. I don’t like politics in my car videos

[@chestercallahan8856]

Can totally respect the performance of the plaid, while hating everything that Tesla stands for when it comes to right to repair. You think a guy like Elon would understand people want to work on their own vehicles without permission of the overlord.

[@brandonlau183]

You know what I love? I love random guy with insanely sick glasses. Actually, I just love those glasses. WICKED

[@creamthelapin]

Where I'm at in the UK there have been 'temporary' speed limits on my favourite driving roads in place since 2020 and there is talk of reducing from 30mph to 20mph in every single built up area nationwide with trials currently ongoing. So I sold my 90s Impreza, which was for all intents and purposes the only car I ever really wanted to actually own, and got a slow-ass Toyota Aygo on which I pay £0 annual road tax as it falls under pre-April 2017 tax bands. It's also way more fuel efficient than either of the cars I previously had. No point in owning a performance car if one can't realistically perform.

[@jongmassey]

20mph in urban centres has been such a great development. Even though it's not adhered to by every driver, it's massively reduced road speeds and made it so much more pleasant to get around

[@SaintNyx]

@@jongmassey Thank God I do not live in an urban area in the UK. That sounds like hell on earth.

[@willmtaylor]

Could there be two guys on more opposite ends of the likability scale than the 2 guests in this episode?

[@op_snooze]

Here's what I told my Tesla buddy. We can drive up to the race track (about 200 mi away) put down 5 laps, and then drive home. And whoever makes it back first wins.

[@Jack_S_]

It's a cool car, but a bit of a 1 trick pony. It's a very nice car, don't get me wrong, and it's great as a daily driver. Comfortable, well built, and lots of tech. However, it's seriously underbraked and the nicest thing I've heard anyone say about the handling is that it's competent. I don't think it's a death knell for the performance car. I have to say, the steering wheel isn't an "F1 for the road" deal, I think Elon was going for general futuristic. The car doesn't have any other F1 vibes, so I don't think that was the goal. Also, when you're tearing through the canyons in California, there is nothing like the wail of a sexy high revving internal combustion engine reverberating off the walls while the tires scramble for traction and the steering transmits that critical information about what the front tires are doing via twitches and a sense of weight.

[@Jack_S_]

@mmmmmmm They're not the best built in the industry, but I've been in a Plaid, and the materials were all nice, everything was bolted in tight, and I didn't see any weird or misaligned gaps, and I was looking for it. They've come a long way, and the Plaid doesn't seem to suffer the quality issues the way earlier or lesser models do.

[@johnshaft5613]

I suppose I can see the future when it slaps me in the face, but I just cannot get excited about Teslas. It's like an appliance, not a car. There is a lot more to enjoying a car than 0-60 time. Yes, I'm old.

[@thatonenerd5318]

Theyre like a fast refrigerator theres no soul to it, no sound when you accelerate, no personality its sad

[@J_J1711]

I'm not old and I totally agree. Save the manuals!

[@redbaron6805]

@@thatonenerd5318 That claim is so pathetically idiotic. The only people that make those claims are people that have literally never driven one...

[@bryduhbikeguy]

You may have already guessed that I'm a little weird about choosing a vehicle.I'd love your full on loaded Van.Out of everything we saw today....The Monaco.Solid road machine,and people would be very careful around it.I had a '75 Kentucky State Trouper Fury,and nobody came close to hitting me.The Monaco has even more space though,and there's the 'Blues Brothers' thing too.