Why I left SONY for CANON | FX3 VS C70

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Here's my personal experience with the Sony FX3 and Canon C70 when it comes to my workflow.

[@theyrecord]

Watch my first film kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3aofpalateArq8

[@cjmurr]

How come we did not see any c70 footage

[@theyrecord]

Hey great comment! I made this video literally the second after I filmed with the C70 and was blown away, I don't have any client work with it yet but I will soon! At the moment IM even selling my Sony's that are left and getting another C70. All very new and very fresh.

[@jamescook5931]

Do I smell a Sony fanboy con?

[@theyrecord]

Sorry don’t understand the comment 🙏🏻

[@Soul_Visuals_Photography]

Can’t wait to see what you do with the new camera my dude

[@theyrecord]

Thank you brother 💪🏻

[@EbenPajanconi]

Aside from the 12 bit, why not the Sony FX6? It costs basically the same, has Internal Variable ND while still being full frame, and you get to keep all your sony Lenses/accessories.

[@theyrecord]

Hey! Thanks for this great comment. So I was originally going to buy the FX6. Great camera for the record! But for my needs, it wasn't much different from my FX3. Same sensor, same picture quality, same problem with 12 bit raw being pro res and not working in DaVinci. So the C70 with the speed booster is full frame equivalent, has 16 1/2 stops of dynamic range, uses EF lenses with the speed booster (all my lenses are EF) naturally sounded like an upgrade, and boy was it a upgrade! Footage is a dream.

[@Loftikaz]

Fx6 doesn’t shoot raw internal and is larger heavier for gimbal work

[@theyrecord]

I was in line to pick up a fx6. But passed on it. And ended up selling my Sony cameras. Went to BlackMagic and canon c70.

[@VisualsfromtheNorthbytTK]

And honestly the DGO sensors image (and god damn that endless DR) just has that something in it. I, too, run with speedbooster and EF lenses and the only thing I've missed from Sony is the ISO tolerance for things where actual proper lighting just isnt viable.

[@theyrecord]

Such a great camera 🙌🏻

[@forthegloryproductions]

Hey man! Fellow AOD filmmaker here from Los Angeles region. We screened "Meet Austin" at the one day doc watch screening. Phenomenal work!!! Thank you for sharing your process and the behind the scenes using the FX3. I've worked on all the Sony FX cameras and have to say they are really good cameras to shoot docs with. I've also owned the Red Komodo & C70. Nothing compares to the rich canon color science and the information coming from that sensor is so good. I kind of miss having the internal ND on the C70 for $4K price tag you can't go wrong with that. Can't wait to watch more of your work, you just earned a new sub. Cheers man!

[@theyrecord]

Man what a great read! Thank you for making my day. Great way to end of the year. The Sony cams are 1st class! Only reason IM leaving is because of the 12 bit Raw workflow that cant be done with the Sony cams in DaVinci. My company had its biggest year yet and it was thanks to the Sonys! PS I still kept the Sony A7s iii and the A74 so IM not all gone. I have 3 types of clients. Low ticket, mid ticket, high ticket. And for the mid to high ticket I want to use all 12 bit raw. For the low-mid ticket items I can still see myself using the Sony's with 10 bit Pro Res HQ using the atomos external recorder.

[@alex99398]

That's nice...but really wish you transitioned this video from FX3/A7S3 to Canon so we could see it and compare on our own...

[@theyrecord]

Thanks for the great comment. To be honest, I made this video when I first got the camera. I did a why I switched from Sony to Canon video maybe on the second day of having the canon c70 and being in love with the move. There’s a lot more c70 footage on the way 🙌🏻

[@martinduffy3229]

You are talking about the Canon C70 but all we saw was Sony camera footage?

[@theyrecord]

Hey yes you are correct. I had made that video a couple of days after I made the switch. I havent filled any client work by then but wanted to pay forward why I sold my FX3 and got the C70. The C70 footage is coming on the channel very soon! Happy New Year!

[@scottievee7467]

Yeah, it's like talking about your new wife while showing pictures of your girlfriend. Dude.

[@DuffTV]

There is a saying "Canon colors".

[@siemworks7078]

Nice! Look forward to the c70 footage :)

[@theyrecord]

Thank you! Will start to have some very soon!

[@reelweaver]

I have exakt that issue. Love sony but want 12 bit. The ninja workflow is just to crazy.

[@LonzosStudios]

your shirt looks really high quality, where did you buy that?

[@theyrecord]

I probably bought it used on Facebook market or something. Not into high end fashion by any means. Keep things super simple.

[@YOUAREMYKIN]

Man, you got me w the video title! I own a Canon R5C and tried the FX3 and was confused about all the hype. Yet I was impressed by your FX3 footage of the race car drivers-was that ProRes RAW? Btw. When you started talking up the C70, I kept waiting for some C70 footage 💁‍♂️ Good luck w the channel!

[@theyrecord]

Hey! I didnt have C70 footage because I made this video a couple of days after getting it and I filled minor things, not client work. I will def have c70 footage on this channel this year, a lot of it! Also, the FX3, theres two parts to this camera, what the Fx3 is capable of internally, and whats its capable of doing externally with a Atomos Ninja V recorder. From my experience, you unlock a lot of its superpower with a Atomos Ninja V. I filmed all my footage with the ninja V in pro res HQ. The 12bit raw is in pro res and not davinci friendly so I never used it. PS the canon 5rc is incredible!

[@YOUAREMYKIN]

@@theyrecord thanks for the thorough reply! Especially the info about the FX3 w Atomos Ninja V. I'll keep it in mind in case a project demands a Sony camera. And yes, having Davinci Resolve being part of the workflow is essential for me also. It'd be a dealbreaker to have to give it up. Godspeed w your channel ⚡

[@wildpatagoniafilms16]

quick question... can the R5c do 12 bit RAW...? thanks! cheers!

[@YOUAREMYKIN]

@@wildpatagoniafilms16 yes it does. You get Canon RAW in 3 compression options, which affect file sizes and quality (mostly in shadows). The codec is very powerful, more than Blackmagic’s BMPCC6K camera. But it takes a bit of work and ingenuity to get post-production right. Blackmagic RAW is much easier. I hope that helps!

[@wildpatagoniafilms16]

@@YOUAREMYKIN wow little power house! Not to mention it gives all the capabilities of the R5 as well! Amazing! Never understood why it receives so much hate!? Specially from the Sony camp! 🤔 Thank you!!

[@baekmedier]

Amen to that... got two of the C70s :) I use it with the speedbooster. Its a great all around camera. If you need more then its easy to rent a pair of RED Komodo X if the project requires it.. :) The big things for me is wierd actually.. The Build in NDs, the Timecode in for my tentacle track Es, the Shutter angle and clear scan mode and the 4K 60p, XF-AVC, All-intra mode to dual SD cards, XLR into the body it self.. Small things, but powerfull tools. For video C70 is always the go to for me even thoug I own the R5C and R3.. they are mainly just photo cameras for me.

[@theyrecord]

Totally agree. I started looking at this camera after they released the update that let it do 12bit raw to SD cards. I thought that was unreal. Naturally, fell in love with like 10 other things about it. The speedbooster is a huge plus for me giving the zoom lenses a extra stop of light 💪🏻

[@baekmedier]

hehe I got the first one back when came out long long time ago. :) In many ways it wasnt impressive at alle actually... but it had build in ND filters.. Then they released the speedbooster... that was a big step, got it right away... then updates... then more updates.. then autofocus got usable... then updates on updates and just out of nothing a RAW update to sd cards @@theyrecord 🤩 I was so surprised to see that from canon.. that I was sure i had bought a sony camera... its normally something they do.

[@theyrecord]

Yea I think the canon R5C had a lot to do with it. That camera was so good and cheaper that they had to give more to the C70. I’m so happy they did. Such a amazing camera with all the updates 🙌🏻

[@Jimmybeakble]

They both are.. but i find my self gravitate towards the C70 most times@@theyrecord

[@theyrecord]

🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

[@Slipsch]

You'll be happier with Red with 16 bit raw, but the great news is, red uses RF mount.

[@theyrecord]

Thanks for this great comment. You're absolutely right, that is the next step. I just want to get better at what I do and master the raw work flow before I make that jump to the Komodo X.

[@AnotherVideoChannel-vs2mv]

Hi...nice vid man...I'm looking forward to see more content from you. I own a C70 too and it's just amazing. Sony is great, and the FX6 and C70 are the same level but my heart beats for the Canon Colours and Softness.

[@theyrecord]

I agree with you 100%, Sony is great but can't compete when it comes to picture quality as the Canon has a clear lead there with 12 bit internal and 16 1/2 stops dynamic range. IM so happy I passed on buying the FX6 and got the C70. So much so, I want to buy a second C70 and sell my Sony cams.

[@AnotherVideoChannel-vs2mv]

@@theyrecord ...and by the way...if you are looking for a nice cinema lens. A week ago I bought a MEIKE 35mm FullFrame Cine Lens. It's perfect for the C70 with the speedbooster.

[@theyrecord]

@@AnotherVideoChannel-vs2mv Great lens! How do you like using it?

[@lowIQstuff]

imma stick with my bmpcc 4k until canon comes out with a c100 mk iii or c200 mk ii with full frame sensor

[@theyrecord]

Pocket 4K is great! I myself have two 6ks. Love BlackMagic!

[@GiveMeP0wer]

Camera doesn't matter, The real deal is lenses, if you can use cooke anamorphic lens on sony fx3 or on canon c70 you will have a great picture and perfect style. Very strange decision. But if you change camera for comfortable workflow on post - it's ok. Picture quality? 12 bit? Very strange)

[@theyrecord]

Hey! I agree with you 100 percent, my first video was on lenses and lights make your picture. We're on the same page. But, I do want to film in 12 bit and edit in DaVinci, unfortunately its super easy to do with the C70 and not with the fx3. And for the record, the FX3 and a7s iii are incredible cameras. Heres that video kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z57TfICli8t8sLc

[@chieltjuuhh]

I also have the C70 since a few months and love how the footage looks. But lowlight and stabilisation from sony is much better.I hope to upgrade to Red later this year.

[@theyrecord]

Thank you. Red is a dream camera for sure, just have to keep getting better every day so I know what to do with it later down the road.

[@shawnlabranche6852]

You're going against the KZbin grain, good for you making a decision that fits your need! Seem like you're getting some hate and excuses in the comments for it though. Do what's best for you.

[@theyrecord]

Thank you for one of the kinder comments to date. For me, I want to be as transparent and honest on this channel as possible. And I’m ok with being roasted for it lol. It all comes from a place of love and I tend to think a little differently.

[@ludovicavice3496]

I hate to tell you that but seeing your fx3 footages, i can definitely tell you your exposure looks off and 12/10bit does not matter unless you are heavily grading the footages particularly that all contents are for either tv or socoal media which is all 8bit. So it seems you never fully exploited your sonys before jumping ship 😢 i do come from Blackmagic and was struggling to get decent shots on the fx3, but i started to read the manuals and read some of Alister chapman blogs how to expose and deal with slog3. Once the exposure particularly on skin tones and white balance was nailed in camera, i got a really great image not far from my blackmagic but without having to have a huge setup, an army of batteries and a focus puller nxt to me on every shoot. I could also chargr less as after a day's job now i find myself with 100-200gb instead of the casual 400-700gb from two cameras.

[@theyrecord]

Hey! Thanks for this great comment. I appreciate it. You're right, I could always expose better, IM not a pro, still learning. But, 10/12 bit aside, shooting raw files help you correct your exposure a bit. And I cant do raw with the sony system as their raw is Apple Pro Res Raw and it doesnt work in DaVinci. So canon 12 bit raw is still a great upgrade for me, and thats the main point. I left because I cant do raw with Sony and I can with canon. Hope that clears things up a bit more, maybe I didnt do the greatest job in the video. Still learning this KZbin game.

[@obiquestbenji5005]

The Fx 3 is such a great camera

[@theyrecord]

Thanks for the comment, yes I agree. The FX3 and the A7s iii that I actually like more are amazing cameras and I had both. Main reason I left was I wanted to shoot everything in 12bit raw and Sony makes that hard as its 12bit pro res raw and it doesn't work in DaVinci. Canon C70 makes that workflow much easier.

[@KLOCinematics]

You switched entirely to Canon because you edit on DaVinci.....? That's... an interesting take. You didn't even show any footage that you got from the C70 the video is hardly persuasive. I switched from Adobe to Davinci and I can switch back if for any reason why I needed to. What happens when Sony starts offering these Features? You going to switch back?

[@theyrecord]

Thanks for this great comment! I switched because I want to film in 12 bit raw, and the 12 bit raw that comes with the sony is pro res raw, doesnt work with davinci, the canon 12 bit raw does. For that reason I switched but another reason I switched is the C70 has much better picture quality and I like the DGO sensor on the canon with the speed booster a lot more than sony's full frame. Theres no footage because I made this video prob 2 days into getting the c70. All this unfolded in real time.

[@AcastroAX]

Welcome to the C70 crew.

[@theyrecord]

**as he sits at the table and says "Honoured to be here, lets get to work."

[@vladimirtalijan]

Because it's better in every way? :)

[@theyrecord]

I am really enjoying the canon c70 💪🏻

[@darkpratt]

The reality is tho 10bit 12bit client can’t tell you already blow them away no need to upgrade

[@theyrecord]

Hey thanks for the comment. You may be right, I didnt upgrade for the client. I upgraded for me. I want to film everything in raw and I cant with the sony as its Pro Res Raw and doesnt work in DaVinci. With the Canon C70 I get Raw 12 bit that works perfectly with DaVinci. And my work has been better since. For me, IM always trying to learn and improve, so I can be the best I can daily.

[@darkpratt]

As look as your happy with your work and workflow have you tried dnx 220?

[@theyrecord]

@@darkpratt not sure I know what the dnx 220 is to be honest, what is it?

[@darkpratt]

@@theyrecord it’s DNxHQ that atomos codec am sure raw is better tho

[@theyrecord]

@@darkpratt Ah, no havent tried it. Want to stay and master a 12 bit raw workflow. Lots of learning ahead.

[@germancreatives88]

why not red komodo x global shutter

[@theyrecord]

Its a great camera! And RD3 (red raw) is incredible, I believe its 16bit and thats far greater than 12bit raw with the C70. The only problem for my needs there is, the komodo has to be rigged out. And its best used with a team. IM a minimalistic filmmaker and I work alone. For that reason the c70 is perfect for me.

[@JeanSebastienLEGER]

@@theyrecord I used the Komodo X as a solo shooter for several projects and it's really easy to use even if you don't have a crew ;-)

[@JeanSebastienLEGER]

@@theyrecord I have a FX3 + FX6 and I also shot with the C70 (that I also loved) but the Komodo X is something else, it's not even close. It will be definitely my next camera ;-)

[@theyrecord]

It’s possible my next camera would be the Komodo as well. It’s a great camera. Just two to three times as much as the fx3 or fx6.

[@NathanKatash]

saw your footage and you have very strange color process and somthing fall apart when you grade the footage - i can tell you that i had both and the problem is not the fx3 - you need to know how to work with fx3 foorage - i every time i sold my fx3 for other camera was big mistake - the fx3 is the most complete camera in the market

[@theyrecord]

Hey thanks for the great comment. You’re right, my colour grading isn’t perfect, and I’m no expert. I didn’t leave the fx3 because it was a bad camera. It’s a great camera. I loved it. But it couldn’t film 12bit colour for Devinci resolve editing and I wanted to film in 12bit colour and edit in DaVinci. So for that reason I moved on.

[@NathanKatash]

@@theyrecord i definitely can understand that - loved the raw out of the c70 but for client work it was wast of my time - and i can do everything that i need with 10 bit - the only camera that really looked better was the blackmagic - the image out of the box is insain

[@theyrecord]

Yea I love BM. I personally have 2 Ursa mini pro cameras. BlackMagic also shoots 12 bit BRAW. All cameras are great. Everyone’s needs are different. I loved my Sony cams. They were great.

[@CO8848_2]

Does you wall look orange?

[@theyrecord]

Sorry I don’t understand the question too well.

[@CO8848_2]

@@theyrecord The wall looks orange, lighting or color grading? I am not sure why so many channels like to keep this "moody" look. It is not appealing. I'd rather see normal colors, as in real life.

[@theyrecord]

Ahhh. Ok makes sense now. I really appreciate the feedback. I will try to be better. Thank you so much 🙏🏻

[@Loftikaz]

I always hated the Sony look it’s milky, oversharpened and blacks are way too crushed, also everyone looks the same cause everyone uses them. Iam. BM shooter but I do rent the C70 sometimes and it’s truly beautiful. The Sony in the right hands looks amazing too tho but every teenager now with a cap and a tatoo calls himself filmmaker now

[@theyrecord]

Love BlackMagic. Have a 6k myself. BM for the win 💪🏻

[@Mr.bandman313]

You left Sony for canon because you’re a goofball . You’re making excuses the whole video bro . Sike just joking 😂 canon has the best colors.

[@theyrecord]

Hey thanks for the comment. For my workflow Canon is great! But everyone has different needs and I do understand that. Hope you have a great day and thanks for the time and comment once again.

[@mbismbismb]

its ok u are now sober :)

[@theyrecord]

Thank you for the comment 🙏🏻

[@martinduffy3229]

Sony looks Sony and Canon colors rock. End of story.

[@theyrecord]

So far, from my limited experience with the C70, picture quality wise, its hard to beat. Incredible.

[@livestreamsuk6004]

Canon 4 Life LOL

[@theyrecord]

🙌🏻🙌🏻

[@ShazammtheProducer]

wtf all this with no footage lol? CLICKBAIT

[@theyrecord]

Hey thanks for the comment. I made this video the second day I got the camera and hadn’t used it on a shoot, hence no footage. My channel here is just documenting my personal experience. Lots of holes (correct) but I do hope to get better.