Why I Left The Pentecostal Movement

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@lyssaboo59
@lyssaboo59 2 жыл бұрын
I left the Pentecostal church in 2015 and I’m still healing from the spiritual trauma. Great video, thanks for sharing.
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your response. I will be praying for you.
@pattycake1234
@pattycake1234 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Alyssa, I go to a Pentecostal church and I’d love to know what some situations your church put you in that weren’t inspired by Scripture and could cause harm. Just trying to discern my current church right now. If your not comfortable that’s totally alright.
@OICU81266
@OICU81266 2 жыл бұрын
@@pattycake1234 Evangelical social circles can be extremely competitive to the point of being toxic. Although Pentecostal life can become what is called a “guilt culture,” however being Pentecostal carries with it much more of an “honor/shame culture” dynamic. That is, your reputation is everything. What you do doesn’t matter, it’s all about what others think or believe to be true of you. Shame is quite an effective way of controlling people’s behavior and vicissitudes, until they decide to get off the merry-go-round and cut ties with toxic religiosity-at which point they are further labeled an apostate and effectively shunned.
@Mazoea
@Mazoea 2 жыл бұрын
@@pattycake1234 most of pentecostal church are using magic and witcraft.
@Greywolfgrafix
@Greywolfgrafix Жыл бұрын
I attended mostly independent fundamental Baptist churches, but the spiritual abuse was so bad I had to get out of there. I'm 63 and still suffering from the trauma there. Always was made to feel like I was on the outside looking in, kept at arms length, but never really accepted. It was very controlling and oppressive.
@oztheberean
@oztheberean 8 ай бұрын
I left the “man made Pentecostal movement” after almost 20 years. Best decision my family ever made besides our salvation.
@npcortezjr
@npcortezjr 4 ай бұрын
If you will say that Pentecostalism is man made-you are saying that God’s promised of outpouring of His Spirit (Joel 2:28-29; Acts 5:32; Lluke 7:37) is also man made. I rather believe the God of the BIBLE instead of believing and trusting the man made doctrine of Cessationism which was invented by John Calvin.
@Packhorse-bh8qn
@Packhorse-bh8qn 3 күн бұрын
@@npcortezjr "If you will say that Pentecostalism is man made-you are saying that God’s promised of outpouring of His Spirit (Joel 2:28-29; Acts 5:32; Lluke 7:37) is also man made. " No. You are being dishonest. He will say that the modern Pentecostal movement is false, and is NOT the outpouring that God promised. He might be right or he might be wrong about that, but his position is NOT saying that God's work in Acts 2 was man made. It is dishonest to say so. Pentecostals are habitually dishonest in this way. It's one of the many things that marks their movement as a work of Satan. " the man made doctrine of Cessationism which was invented by John Calvin." This is another thing that marks the modern Pentecostal movement as a work of Satan - the willful ignorance of its adherents. It is not even REMOTELY true that Calvin "invented" cessationism. It was the position of the entire church going back to the 2nd Century.
@scottfisher3758
@scottfisher3758 Жыл бұрын
Brother Mike, thank you for sharing the truth! As Pentecostalism has superficial worship, the love is also superficial. I was a Pentecostal preacher. I renounced Pentecostalism in 2015. I am still healing from the spiritual abuse. But, I thank God for His grace to open my eyes to the truth and to set me free by His truth. God bless.
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 Жыл бұрын
Wow! These are stories I love to hear. Not the spiritual abuse of coarse but coming out of false teaching! Thanks for the response. I will be praying for you
@scottfisher3758
@scottfisher3758 Жыл бұрын
@@gracebibletruthministries6889 Thank you, brother. I will pray for you!
@scottsletten9827
@scottsletten9827 Жыл бұрын
Amen! Brother this is what I experienced too. We need to study the scriptures, and have a proper understanding of the truth!!. We can't add or take away from God's word.
@scottsletten9827
@scottsletten9827 Жыл бұрын
Amen brother!
@deborahthorp758
@deborahthorp758 Жыл бұрын
The problem I have is turn off your mind and just recieve impartations from the Spirit. AND don't put GOD IN A BOX. I say WE ARE TOLD TO PUT GOD IN HIS BOX THE SURE FOUNDATION THAT WE CAN TEST EVERYTHING BY.ALSO ,SO MANY PEOPLE STUDY THE FORMER MEN OF REVIVAL AND GET ENCOURAGED TO FOLLOW AFTER, I ALSO HAVE SEEN SO MUCH FALSE .THANKYOU FOR PREACHING TRUTH.AMEN
@RabbiMurray
@RabbiMurray Жыл бұрын
I was called a divider and creator of discord for speaking the truth of Paul's epistles
@ABiblicalView
@ABiblicalView 2 жыл бұрын
Brother, you should have thousands of subscribers. You just got one more here. What a presentation of truth and I attest to the truths here, amen
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard! Thanks for your response!
@ritadyer9295
@ritadyer9295 Жыл бұрын
I know! I have thought the same thing! I’m so thankful to have found him. He teaches really clearly and explains the big words he uses! Some people use big theological words and don’t bother to explain the meanings. I’m going to go back thru this entire series before starting another one and take notes so I can write down some points to study. I’ve never been taught church history at all ( other than COG history which is a warped story of the truth). I never understood how all of it thru time has brought in different ideas manmade and unscriptural and has built on top of each other for several hundred years! That’s why false doctrine is so easily accepted. But I want to understand and be able to explain to friends when needed. I have a dear friend of about 15 years who cut me off a few months ago because of bad doctrine. She got involved with a former baptist church turning charismatic and who were having Greg Locke as a speaker. I begged her to not get into that stuff but instead she chose to cut me out of her life. I tried. I know how hard it was for me to break loose after over 20 years in hyper Pentecostalism. One of the greatest compliments I have ever gotten was a couple of years ago when I went to visit a COG to hear a singing group. I was sitting with the pastor’s daughter (he was my former pastor at another church) and she’s the music director. She noticed from the stage I wasn’t singing the songs. Later during the singing by the guest group she made the comment they needed to get some COG (or something similar) back in me. Wow! I’m thankful that the difference is noticeable to those I used to attend church with!
@rhondajackson7764
@rhondajackson7764 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this content. I too was raised in the pentecostal church from the age of 3 and I have seen a lot of craziness. I knew as a child something wasn't right. Today I'm still struggling to find a true Bible teaching church expositionally speaking but I'm so thankful to have found your video. Thank you for sharing! God bless you and your wife as you continue to share the Gospel!
@VictorianMaid99
@VictorianMaid99 11 ай бұрын
UPC has lots of weird crap
@dignalozada9818
@dignalozada9818 7 ай бұрын
My only problem with any church is when people play God with their judging but don't look at themselves because we all fall short of the glory of God.
@BrandilineMelt
@BrandilineMelt 2 жыл бұрын
I used to be in the Pentecostal holiness movement. I remember having a "good service" was a having a shout down. If your church didn't have enough emotionalism it was a "dry" church. Didn't matter if your church wasn't growing. All that really mattered was emotionalism and dress. They said the reason they didn't grow is people rejected holiness.
@Fr4nkSanchez
@Fr4nkSanchez 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot be more agreed. I was raised in Assembly of God church now I am attending to a UPCI church because I feel the presence of God and its the closest chuch to me. However, I do see a lot of legalism at the beginning I like the emotionalism but then started asking my wife if She was saved due did not talk in tongues, this to me it is an issue as a church because they focus everybody talk in tongues but there is no discernment of spirit if the tongues are legit or really coming from God
@BrandilineMelt
@BrandilineMelt 2 жыл бұрын
Read 1 Cor. 12:30. Everyone doesn't have the gift of tongues. It's a gift, just like the other gifts of spirit. And it was a gift of being able to interrupt or speak literal languages without having any prior knowledge of the language not a bunch of babbling. This gift was given so the gospel could be shared with all the Jewish people coming from around then world to celebrate Shavuot. The Holy Spirit is given to everyone believer, if your wife gave her life to Christ then she has the Holy Spirit. That's sad that they would base salvation on anything but Jesus Christ. Search the scripture for yourself with an open heart and mind, and of course with prayer . These things are clear just reading scripture on your own.
@Abreeclarey
@Abreeclarey Жыл бұрын
I noticed this is the pentecostal church I go to.if someone wasn't clapping,jumping around or speaking in tongues then apparently the devil has you bound.my pastor told me I need to get my joy back because I don't go to be all emotional anymore.i still attend because my grandfather until God leads me to a different church that's preaches from the Bible as it is written.months ago this family came to our church and my pastor literally separated me and my friend from the ladies that were crying and speaking in tongues or whatever because we weren't doing what they were doing and I felt left out.there was times I forced myself to jump,cry and even forced myself to speak in tongues so no one thought I was backsides if I didn't.im praying for them to see the truth.
@douggauzy6258
@douggauzy6258 2 жыл бұрын
I spent almost 2 years in Pentecostalism . Mike is speaking everything I was feeling the last 5 months until I said. Lord , Thank You ! I am done with the Apostolic church .
@VictorianMaid99
@VictorianMaid99 11 ай бұрын
Me too. They are pretty nutty.
@mikehardy4474
@mikehardy4474 5 ай бұрын
It took me a little while to get used to UPC church and I love it now.I don’t notice anyone else.I have a beard and long hair,bring all my hippie friends and no one says anything rude to us,
@redrockmama2302
@redrockmama2302 Жыл бұрын
I grew up in the AOG church and even though our pastors had some training, everything you said fits with my experience. Even though I left Pentecostalism years ago, I didn’t embrace Calvinism until the last few years. It has taken a long time for the legalism and the teachings of men to leave because I became convinced by Scripture. Thankfully, God is so patient with us. Thank you for your testimony! You are brave!
@ReformedGibberish5881
@ReformedGibberish5881 Жыл бұрын
Same here Most of my family is captive in the movement and they think I’m the one strange
@PETERJOHN101
@PETERJOHN101 Жыл бұрын
@@ReformedGibberish5881 You are. Calvinism is a doctrine of Satan.
@bethanyskipper2257
@bethanyskipper2257 Жыл бұрын
His church growing up did teach biblically correct and weren’t strict on things, but I’ve been trying to explain most Pentecostal churches aren’t like that unfortunately.
@VictorianMaid99
@VictorianMaid99 11 ай бұрын
I had the same experience. They want everyone to be a preacher
@wangodangoful
@wangodangoful Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I grew up in a pentecostal church. Can't tell you how many times I went to the alter, got saved, then backslid a week later . I even spoke in tongues at one time...trying to impress this girl with how spiritual I was. Too many crazy and harmful experiences to recount all here. As a small child I remember having nightmares because of what I witnessed. This movement is worse than destructive. I have spiritual PTSD to this day, and find it hard to even go to church.
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 Жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry to hear the damage it has done. But i know exactly what you are talking about. My KZbin channel is dedicated to people like yourself and others who faced these issues. I will be praying for you. Thank you for the comment.
@ritadyer9295
@ritadyer9295 Жыл бұрын
@@gracebibletruthministries6889 I have a grandson who has done the same thing as the poster above. He is in jail in AR where he lives under $150,000! I got into a disagreement thru messages with his wife yesterday about I think he needs to NOT be in a Pentecostal church or a very emotional Baptist church like I attend (I’m looking for something else) because he’s getting emotional and going to the altar but not being saved. He’s not being changed. I was trying to give her some examples of how some of this stuff is bad and spoke a little about William Branham. She ended up forwarding my message to her Pentecostal pastor who responded back to her and she copied it to me. He referred to WB as “his tiny movement.” It wasn’t tiny. I was trying to get her to understand how all of Pentecostalism will trace back and connect at some point. Her pastor said you can’t put them all in the same box. I say you can. I came out of the COG and have been involved with other Pentecostal denominations. For 30 years. I’ve been out for about 14 or so. There’s still stuff I’m trying to get out of my head! Anyway, I told her altar calls aren’t scriptural either. I just want my grandson to be really saved. Not shed a few tears and get up the same. Also, the only thing I would do over in my life would be to not raise my oldest kids in Pentecostalism or emotionalism in Baptist churches. I heard you on another video where you talked about emotions VS emotionalism and revivals VS revivalism. My oldest daughter has done the same thing as her son. Been to the altar probably 100 times. Been baptized quite a few. But never changed. I think she confused emotionalism with salvation. And I blame myself for all the services with no solid preaching of the word and just carrying on and saying “We really had church today. The preacher didn’t even get to preach!” That could go on for weeks at a time. Thanks for listening. I don’t know how to convince my grandson he needs a new church. I’m going to also go back and listen to this series over again and take notes before moving on.
@rispergichuki3172
@rispergichuki3172 Жыл бұрын
I can relate. I went through that. I denounced it on October 2022. Felt empty most of the times and no transformation until I came to hear the gospel. Now am saved and I thank the Lord
@rispergichuki3172
@rispergichuki3172 Жыл бұрын
Although it's been tough on my side but when I recall how many prickings and curious I could get over some stuff I used to see. My conscience was always bothered. I recall one day we were led into meditation the same as the yoga people could and we were told to chant some words. I was 17 at the moment and was very naive. Only for people behind me to start falling, shouting and crying uncontrollably. I was left perplexed. I've never recovered from that. After sitting down and researching I could find that thing is in the new age. After speaking against it I have been labelled a trouble maker and am misleading others. The church I was in previously was promoting the people behind the mess I used to see in highschool. I couldn't prolong my stay there. I left pentecostalism and the church for good. I thank God I never went to atheism. I got to hear the gospel and that's how I repented and believed in Christ. Now am secure
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 Жыл бұрын
@@rispergichuki3172 I am grateful God was merciful to you and brought you out. Thanks for sharing! May the Lord keep you and make his face to shine upon you!
@samename6479
@samename6479 2 жыл бұрын
And we must most definitely question the leaders what is being preached especially If it's not in the Bible. We should all be in one accord like the Bible says.
@ryan_rollinson
@ryan_rollinson Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video Mike. As a new Christian I started going to a Pentecostal church. I started questioning what I saw happen in the church and then I started looking at scripture. Every time after having read scripture I would cringe at the lies or the misalignment the Pentecostal teaching had with the bible. I couldn’t stay there for long. It burned me to see it. I became critical in my heart but have since forgiven the preachers but I will not support it.
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 Жыл бұрын
Hello Ryan, I thank God for you! Thanks for sharing! You and thousands of others have had the same experience. This should be an encouragement to you. The Holy Spirit is truly guiding you into all truth. May the Lord richly bless you and keep you!
@changthao5248
@changthao5248 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You for this awesome testimony. I too came out of the Pentacostal movement. I am glad the Lord open our eyes.
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!! God bless you
@temitopeadeusi4756
@temitopeadeusi4756 2 жыл бұрын
It's even worse in Africa Nigeria especially . Because most of the people are always looking for blessings they just believe anything they hear. If you question the ways of doing things you are seen as an enemy of the church. It's so common to have one man who is the founder of the ministry and then he is called the general overseer and everyone reveres him so much and then they start making him the centre of attraction. (Oh our papa said This, buy papas books don't buy any other books, They will say tomorrow is anointing service come with anointing oil we will pray and then use it to do this and that).. if there is one country where Pentecostalism has really eaten deep into the people and has 98% deceived it is Nigeria... They don't believe in salvation by Faith and not works they say you can lose it... one day I stood looking at now many pastors and reverend and bishops were in a conference I attended.. Many of them but the more you see them the more the society is getting worse..
@Mazoea
@Mazoea 2 жыл бұрын
😂🤣😂😂😂 in the Africa the pastors are more using witchcraft
@CieloVistaSoftware
@CieloVistaSoftware 2 жыл бұрын
My sickening journey into Charismania lasted 20 years. My takeaway was this. Anytime more time is spent on personal experiences than studying scripture, get out.
@briankady1456
@briankady1456 Жыл бұрын
Amen.
@chromebull884
@chromebull884 Жыл бұрын
I have been in the Pentecostal church ever since I was a child. Please pray that God will lead me in the right direction.
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 Жыл бұрын
I will be praying for you. I also was in Pentecostalism most of my life. God is faithful to reveal the truth. Love him and love his word and he will guide you into all truth. Thank you for responding!
@chromebull884
@chromebull884 Жыл бұрын
@@gracebibletruthministries6889 thank you so much! God bless you!
@godlygirls62
@godlygirls62 Жыл бұрын
This isn't a hard one. Pentecostalism is full of false doctrine and theology. We should pray that God directs you to biblically sound church
@PETERJOHN101
@PETERJOHN101 Жыл бұрын
@@gracebibletruthministries6889 No one can respond to Christ apart from prayer. Praying to God in repentance at the end of a sermon, or even during a sermon, is a response to the Gospel. "Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God." "Whosoever calleth upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." "Except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish." According to you, those who preach without seminary training are operating in the flesh. But somehow, getting ordained and approved in the eyes of Man makes you qualified in God's eyes? Peter preached on the day of Pentecost, didn't he? Was he a graduate of Seminary? No. What about John, who you quoted saying, _you have no need of any man to teach you,_ then contradict him literally in the same breath. You need to repent for contradicting the bible in virtually every breath.
@lonniejones8487
@lonniejones8487 Жыл бұрын
I was raised in the Assembly of God and was without a doubt filled with the Holy Spirit with the gift of tongues and discernment (which is at work listening to you). I find it somewhat offensive that you are saying that my experience was not real. What I felt was wonderful and real. My life was permanently changed. I KNEW that I had been changed. I think you are wrong to get online and judge what other Christians believe and preach that don’t agree with you. So, all churches, preachers, Christians, etc are wrong and you are the only one that is right. The entire BIble is comprised of scriptures that have been handed down from the time of Moses to the present day, without seminaries and Bible schools. I feel that you are being more judgmental than you are making your case for the need of Seminary. We don’t go to school to accept/experience Christ. I’m sure you mean well, but don’t believe you should be online with your criticism of Pentecostalism. I think you are approaching a dangerous point of blasphemy. Good evidence of the Holy Spirit in Pentecostal churches is the music.
@saimonerogoimuri9221
@saimonerogoimuri9221 2 жыл бұрын
My friend, the UPCI does not legalise anything in the Church. Living a life of Holiness and Righteousness is our love for God. Jesus said if any men wants to follow him, a person MUST first of all DENY himself/herself. Again I can see the lack of the understanding of the word of God.
@tkay4401
@tkay4401 Жыл бұрын
I am age 55 at time of this writing. Your descriptions brought back a lot of memories of things I encountered in my own years growing up in a Pentecostal church. Once I reached adulthood and got out on my own though, I was able to see what other churches were like and have long since moved on to another church that my wife and I agree much more with. This video is an excellent explanation of the errors and excesses of the Pentecostal movement. I never heard anything about Charles Parham and his students when I was growing up in a Pentecostal church. Had to learn that on my own much later. Thank you for this video.
@BecomingDr.Kimmie259
@BecomingDr.Kimmie259 Жыл бұрын
Sir, you're just replacing one fear-based religious doctrine with another one. I'm sad for you.
@dignalozada9818
@dignalozada9818 7 ай бұрын
​@BecomingDr.Kimmie259 so , no church is better?
@jamesdalton9595
@jamesdalton9595 Жыл бұрын
I attended a pentecostal church for many years. I agree with you about they not knowing the Bible but on the other hand i was healed several times of some pretty serious stuff by the laying on of hands. I instantly came out of drugs and alcohol and it had truely been a blessing, how ever it really does seem that they have the bible alltwisted up.
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 Жыл бұрын
I also have been healed many, many times. God does heal the sick when he decrees too. Of coarse, healing has nothing to do with the Pentecostal movement. God was healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease before Pentecostalism began. It is God’s will though, that we attend a church where we are being fed the word of God in its meaning. Thanks for the comment.
@donaldkagel1952
@donaldkagel1952 Жыл бұрын
This is what happened to me at a UPC church in Florida . It was all emotionalism and no sound doctrine in that so-called revival . I went to the altar and they laid hands on me and spoke in tongues . Then they led me up to the baptistry , and like cattle running to the stall , they baptized me in Jesus name . I then faked speaking in tongues and went back to my seat . Meanwhile the music was loud and blaring .
@SarahMcGeeLiveYourBest
@SarahMcGeeLiveYourBest Жыл бұрын
We came out of the carasmatic 3 years ago!! Praise God
@dwaynedaye1842
@dwaynedaye1842 3 жыл бұрын
Brother, I totolly understand & can relate 100% to what it is you are saying. I myself before leaving was basically considered the black sheep or trouble maker for asking questions. Questions that were deserving of answers based on the confusion of what I was being taught 😒 & instead of receiving clear biblical explanations I was verbally attacked for questioning the pastor.
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your response.
@mrgeorge1888
@mrgeorge1888 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm I like to know your questions, I believe I can answer your every questions, from Genesis to Revelation. I'm a mainstream trinitarian pentecostal, Gbu always
@cincin4515
@cincin4515 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. The one I attended called for complete hypnotism via bright lights, repetitive singing and increasingly louder faster drumming. Or atrophied brain. Unfortunately I can't be hypnotized so they said I was cursed by a distant freemason relative. That's me done.
@noeolvera4791
@noeolvera4791 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrgeorge1888 is speaking in tongues evidence that you have the Hoy spirit?
@mrgeorge1888
@mrgeorge1888 2 жыл бұрын
@@noeolvera4791 Speaking in tongue mean you have been given the gift of speakingin tongue, to strengthen your faith, nothing more. When people got baptized by Jesus by the Holy Ghost (Mark 1 : 8), people must have speak in tongue, as a sign. But after that, if the believer doesn't receive the gift of speaking in tongue, but receive other gift, then the one would not speak in tongue again. The more little and weak your faith is, or the more bigger plan that God have for you, the bigger chance for you to be given this gift. Again, to strengthen your faith. And about the Holy Spirit, He is the 7 Spirit of God the Father (Isaiah 11 : 2). And the Spirit of the Lord is the Spirit of Jesus. And He is inside you since you believed. So thus saying is true, Jesus is in the Father, and the Father is in Jesus. And Jesus is in us, and we are in Him. Gbu for asking.
@mariodebeer
@mariodebeer Жыл бұрын
Sir it's like you're speaking my words exactly!!!!!Had the exact same experience and I'm pretty sure everyone here can relate!!Keep preaching the true word of God and keep fighting the good fight of the faith!!!
@ir5757
@ir5757 Жыл бұрын
Spanish Pentecostal church are out of there mind.
@peggyblack1
@peggyblack1 Жыл бұрын
❤ im very thankful that I was lead out of that false teaching. I am now free from that and learning the true gospel. I can relate to so many things that you said.
@randygrayson9015
@randygrayson9015 2 жыл бұрын
Amen! God is absolutely Sovereign! By him are we in Christ!
@billbirkett7166
@billbirkett7166 3 жыл бұрын
In my own theological journey, everything seems to be pushing me towards the Orthodox Church, or at least a reformed tradition like Lutheranism. I'm tired of the cults, they are under a lying spirit.
@cincin4515
@cincin4515 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely. Me too except they don't exist in regional Oz.
@respectingthewordpodcast
@respectingthewordpodcast Жыл бұрын
You find a church??
@Steve-og4ii
@Steve-og4ii 11 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, many have left the craziness of the Charasmatic movement, only to be ensnared in the terrible errors of Calvinism. I have seen this many times.
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 11 ай бұрын
With all due respect, Steve, if you understood Calvinism, you would know that it is not being ensnared at all. Hyper Calvinism yes, I understand that completely. But Calvinism itself when understood correctly, only demonstrates that it is biblical theology at its best
@wenhari06
@wenhari06 6 ай бұрын
100% agreed. I have seen Pentecostal errors but have stayed in the Pentecostal movement and holding on to its ideals on the persuasion of scripture. You need to butcher scripture to reject Pentecostal ideals
@cristinahenderson9401
@cristinahenderson9401 3 жыл бұрын
It depends. At my church the main preachers went to bible school. There are no seizures or dancing or whatever. I think it depends on the church.
@ericallensr3435
@ericallensr3435 2 жыл бұрын
Many preachers and prophets in God 's word never went to a "formal bible college". Fishermen, tax collector Medical doctor, Jesus himself "Carpenter's son", etc "unlearned men:" according to the scripture, they were called! Some of the most dishonest, puffed up, scripture perverting devils come out of bible schools. Bible school preachers do not guarantee you salvation but obedience to the gospel and teachings of the apostles.
@edwinholcombe2741
@edwinholcombe2741 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. This man does speak some truth but it is not truth about all what are considered Pentecostal churches. What is called Pentecostal covers a wide variety of doctrines and traditions. I have seen the type of churched this man speaks about and have the exact same feelings as he does. But there are Pentecostal churches with good sound exegesis teaching and without all that silly worship. He goes too far. On the other side there are some very prominent false teachings out there that has permeated Pentecostals even tho some Pentecostal denominations have officially condemned them. These teachings are among the people of their churches. Just to name 2 of these teachings are the Prosperity Gospel and the teachings of NAR and New Age. To be fair these false teachings are not infiltating ONLY Pentecostals but also other non-Prentecostal or Evangelical churches as well. I have had to leave a Baptist church because of this.
@josephleardi6952
@josephleardi6952 2 жыл бұрын
I was born and raised in a Pentecostal church, it ruined my life and that of my Mother.
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry! I’m praying for your family.
@janefrench5401
@janefrench5401 Жыл бұрын
I thank God I was raised in the Pentecostal church. I thank God for the hellfire and brimstone preaching. I thank God for a born again experience. I thank God that I am redeemed by the precious blood of Jesus, saved, sanctified, and set apart. I thank God for His presence and for His glory. I thank God for a teaching that calls us out of darkness and encourages one to embrace a holy life, for without holiness (right standing with God) no man shall see Him, and I thank God for the ever living Word that has taught me how to live. Not the Pentecostal church, but the Word. And to that end, the Pentecostal church has been a powerful place that promotes and encourages one to get as close to Jesus as possible and not grieve the Holy Spirit thru a lose lifestyle. Thank God for the Pentecostal church. No regrets here.
@andreamichelle1
@andreamichelle1 Жыл бұрын
I remember when my speech used to be like this. Although, I prayed, went church, and read my Bible, God revealed to me that I wasn't even applying the scriptures to my life. Can you imagine praying, tithing, going to church, speaking in tongues, worshipping, and not even know how to apply the scriptures to your life or defeat the enemy with God's Word? This is one of the greatest travesties- being destroyed due to lack of knowledge.
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 Жыл бұрын
Hello Jane, First of all, a Pentecostal church has nothing to do with your salvation. So, to be thankful you were raised in a denominational church is irrelevant. Secondly, hell fire and brimstone preaching is not biblical. so to be thankful for something that isn’t biblical reveals the deception that is at work. However, I am thankful just as you are for salvation. (Which covers being sanctified, being holy, and living a righteous life. ) In my testimony, I made it clear. I was also raised in Pentecostalism and there is where God chose to save me. But we are not to follow man-made holiness,but biblical holiness. We are not to follow, man-made teachings, but biblical teachings. You mentioned a Pentecostal church was a powerful place that promotes and encourages one to get as close to Jesus as possible. Well, that is works salvation, which Pentecostalism teaches, which the Bible does not teach. Thank you for your response, but keep this in mind: having no regrets with the Pentecostal church means you are satisfied with Pentecostalism. God wants you to be satisfied in Christ. Remember, when a person cannot see the problems or errors with Pentecostalism, two things are to be considered. If a person cannot see the error of Pentecostalism, either the Lord has not yet shown them, or Satan has deceived them. I will be praying for you, that God would truly show you the distinction.
@mikehardy4474
@mikehardy4474 6 ай бұрын
@@andreamichelle1,You sound confused.Satan is attacking your mind.Pentecostal services to me are fantastic.
@mikehardy4474
@mikehardy4474 6 ай бұрын
⁠@@gracebibletruthministries6889,I don’t have any works but I love a Pentecostal service.I don’t identify with the dress,long hair,no make-up stuff but it’s a free country and I look and dress the way I want.
@DS11129
@DS11129 5 ай бұрын
@@gracebibletruthministries6889 I have seen and while never followed this denomination I do have ties to it based on how they support a certain group in Europe. I call this out indirectly and have backed away from any service based on this. Even hearing that if one's does not have family together they cant serve. I believe that Pentecostal like to pray so we the people hear the word and words directly meant for how they feel about us vs. the personal conversation with God. Than with speaking in foreign languages the Bible clearly states in known languages and someone should be there to interpret if a different language is used. Like some churches I go to in Europe where they have an English translator. Hearing what they call tongues and same words anytime I hear it makes me think a certain southern school teaches this false doctrine. I get attacked for my views but the Bible is the Bible and church doctrine will never outweigh that. thanks for the video.
@nasticanasta
@nasticanasta 3 жыл бұрын
My parents were JW, my father was big time elder/overseer. Even as a child I knew there was something wrong with it. I refused to get baptized as a JW. I was guided by God to a better understanding of his Word and to Christianity.
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad to hear that David! Thanks for the response.
@cyrilsneer5957
@cyrilsneer5957 2 жыл бұрын
@@gracebibletruthministries6889 I can never have anything to do with Christianity. That religion did too much evil. I just believe in jesus because he's the truth. Not that religion.
@ddzl6209
@ddzl6209 2 жыл бұрын
Anything other than post messianic Judaism is heretic
@cyrilsneer5957
@cyrilsneer5957 2 жыл бұрын
@@ddzl6209 agreed.
@gennisparry4352
@gennisparry4352 Жыл бұрын
@@gracebibletruthministries6889 You have to be very careful. The Apostles did not go to school, they were taught by Christ. The Pharisees or the high priest perceive they were uneducated but took note they had been with Jesus. Paul said he was not taught this gospel he got it through Revelation Galation 1. The Church that followed Acts2 verse 38 teaches the truth, they are different from the other churches. However some teaching about women preachers and women bishops I don’t believe. You will indeed blaspheme and you have blasphemed. The Holy Ghost runs the church not education.
@TKCoburn4
@TKCoburn4 3 жыл бұрын
I want to tell you something that that happened to me. When I was in the 6th grade, my family attended the Pentecostal Holiness Church in Pacific Beach, San Diego. I wanted very much to put God first in my life. There were 2 very weird things that happened to me and it was NOT of the Holy Spirit ( I didn't know it at the time). One Friday night we were having a small group prayer-meeting A girl who was only a few years older than me was walking around " prophesying " as though she was speaking as God' mouth piece, while the rest of us were kneeling at the alter. She was saying things to the group like " You will be going to be Russia as missionaries blah blah blah. The weird thing was there were candles set up on the pulpit as the church lights were turned down low. The candles were flickering. The girl said " The candles are flickering because my presence is here (Meaning the Holy Spirit) I was a bit frightened but didn't want to question God. The other weird thing that happened was at a Wednesday night Bible study, I started jumping up and down saying " There is a God, There is a God! You better believe it folks!" I don't like drama so this was very strange and embarrassing. I now attend churches with educated and Godly truth speaking pastors.
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your story. God is faithful to reveal the truth to those who truly love him.
@orthocatsr.8723
@orthocatsr.8723 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah pagans or heretics followed the disciples , and agreed loudly also
@ericallensr3435
@ericallensr3435 2 жыл бұрын
I do not understand what you are trying to put out there? Can you please explain what was the purpose of the description of these incidents.
@TKCoburn4
@TKCoburn4 2 жыл бұрын
@@ericallensr3435 None of these so-called prophesies same true. So that tells me right there that this was not of God.
@ericallensr3435
@ericallensr3435 2 жыл бұрын
@@TKCoburn4 Ok. My question is why were you embarrassed for jumping up and down and saying there is a God? Where was ypur pastor or other ministers, when this occurred?
@npcortezjr
@npcortezjr Жыл бұрын
We must not generalize the Pentecostalism, because not all Pentecostal believers are like that--that's why i disagree in what the man is saying on this video. Today Pentecostal believers are well verse in the Bible because they based their doctrines on the WORD OF GOD. The man does not know what he's saying. Pentecostal and Charismatic believers like the Assemblies of God have many Bible Seminary, and they preach powerfully under the anointing of God and their theology is based on the Word of God.
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 Жыл бұрын
You must go to the right bible schools to learn the Bible. Pentecostal bible schools are not the right schools. I know what I’m talking about because I was in Pentecostalism for 25 years before coming out. I have seen the best of them. I’ve seen the worst of them. Pentecostalism teaches a shallow view of God. a shallow view of worship, a shallow view of almost everything. It is vital a person knows Greek and Hebrew and has been trained in the scriptures correctly before attempting to preach.
@wenhari06
@wenhari06 6 ай бұрын
@@gracebibletruthministries6889its sad that instead of admitting that your claim of 'no training' is wrong you switch to a different argument, viz 'it's the wrong kind of training'. This unfortunately is slander. Some of us were raised in Pentecostal churches that rejected the excesses and errors that you believed in the church you were raised in on the strength of scripture. I reject reformed Calvinism on the same weight of scripture today
@davidaraujo6910
@davidaraujo6910 11 ай бұрын
I believe this brother is o no the right track in his desire to know the God of the Holy Scriptures. As one who has had significant years in theological training hermeneutics, and Church history, I need to encourage him to keep up studying the Word of God. He will also lead you out of the errors of reformed theology aka Calvinism. If you think pentecostalism is bad, you have no idea how heretical reformed theology is.
@wenhari06
@wenhari06 6 ай бұрын
This is the one comment I scrolled down looking for! Spot on! Sadly he is still in error. Error prone?
@a.v.6158
@a.v.6158 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing I had to come out of a Pentecostal church they emphasizes speaking on tongues spiritual baptism prophesies laying hands speaking into one life and emotionalism. Toxic and causes mental damage
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment! God bless
@rnewman964
@rnewman964 8 ай бұрын
What a broad brush you use. The more I listen just confirms you have been deceived. Praying the Lord delivers you from the blindness that the enemy has cast upon you.
@ritadyer9295
@ritadyer9295 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the BEST videos I have seen explaining this. Thanks!
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment Rita! May the Lord keep you!
@mitchellstarkey706
@mitchellstarkey706 Жыл бұрын
WOW! WOW! WOW! Thanks for putting this video out.
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your response.
@PowerSweep
@PowerSweep 3 ай бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking watching! Wow! It's EXACTLY what I experienced and know. And pretty much the same escape -- reading the Word of God. I thank the Lord for saving me from that deadly doctrine.
@BrianJuntunen
@BrianJuntunen 10 ай бұрын
You still have that preacher voice. It’s like when you watch the news and the anchor uses a trained voice that doesn’t sound natural. I like the preacher voice and I wonder if preachers even know that they have adopted it.
@PixieDust-eq6kc
@PixieDust-eq6kc Жыл бұрын
I thought your voice sounded familiar. You and your family used to come to the church I grew up in in Waynesboro. We used to go to BHC but escaped.(thank God) I always had questions growing up that no one could explain to me. Recently my eyes have been opening to the truth of God's word. I am so glad that you and your family came out and see the truth. It is so encouraging to know that your eyes are opened. Praise God! I'm so happy for you guys. Some good channels I've been following are Justin Peter's ministries, Long For Truth, Fighting For The Faith. Thank God I found y'all's channel.
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 Жыл бұрын
It is so good to hear from you! Especially someone who was raised in Pentecostalism just like us. Janet and I have been neglected and accused of being backslid. We have lost all of that fellowship, all because we studied the Bible and found a lot of what we were told was not true. I am so thankful to God that you are hearing the truth. We also know Justin Peters. Also I recommend “grace to you” broadcast. It is the ministry of John MacArthur. Pray for us as we pray for you. May the Lord keep you in his care and make his face to shine upon you.
@natalieamberger2432
@natalieamberger2432 Жыл бұрын
​@@gracebibletruthministries6889I too grew up in UPCI and do not consider myself penticostal and attend a southern baptist church because of Husband. I dont believe everything they do also but one thing I do know is that Calvanism, John McArther is NOT truth and they do blasphem or quench the sipirit of God with their cessationism. 😔
@cassandrashaw1730
@cassandrashaw1730 Жыл бұрын
Yes these solid ministries you recommend helped me come out of the movement, along with John MacArthur, Ligonier Q & A sessions, also Spencer Smith docos 1st 2nd & 3rd Adam, 4th Adam is about to be released, all exposing various aspects of the movement, also Leaving the Message has been vital in explaining how it all started and its sinister roots.
@sgu3547
@sgu3547 3 жыл бұрын
The sinner prayer isn’t biblical. Just believe, repent and get baptize for the forgiveness of your sin and you will be added to the church. A good mentor is good to have to teach you to obey everything Christ had commended.
@ManuelPinner
@ManuelPinner 2 жыл бұрын
This is Why We Must Spend More Time with Our Lord Yeshua Jesus in Prayer and Reading His Word to Know Him Even More!
@Janalyn1212
@Janalyn1212 11 күн бұрын
@npcortezjr
@npcortezjr Жыл бұрын
I'm 68 years old and i've been a PENTECOSTAL believer for almost 45 years now. And i can say that our Theology/ doctrines are all based on the Word of God. We're experiencing in our pentecostal churches what the disciples of Jesus have experienced in the Book of Acts. We still believe that the power and manifestations of the Holy Spirit is still in the true church today. 1 Corinthians 2:4,5.. "And my message and my preaching were not in persuasive words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, so that your faith would not rest on the wisdom of mankind, but on the power of God." Therfore if the church where you belong does not believe and rejects the Gifts, Power, and manifestations of the Holy Spirit you're not in the True church of Jesus Christ.
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 Жыл бұрын
Your theology is based on man made assumptions about the word of God. And brother I know you mean well by what you are saying. But you are not experiencing what the apostles in the book of acts experienced. These manifestations are man made. The scriptures that are quoted are taken out of context.
@st.christopher1155
@st.christopher1155 2 жыл бұрын
You will be fine if you don’t stray far from Jesus Christ and Him crucified. Also, don’t forget He is risen and you are risen in Him. Thirdly, avoid Calvinism at all cost. God bless. ✝️🙏🏼📖😇
@truthmatters82
@truthmatters82 2 жыл бұрын
What a powerful revealing testimony, I know this will help and be a blessing to many. Thank you and God bless!🙏❤️🕊️
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@michaelciccone2194
@michaelciccone2194 Жыл бұрын
I have reasons for being Pentecostal! I am an outdoor Pentecostal evangelistic preacher here in NYC.
@kidmeoli1458
@kidmeoli1458 Жыл бұрын
I keep skipping to every other couple of minutes, waiting for you to explain exactly what doctrine of the Pentecostal church is wrong , you haven’t giving one example. Please give us some doctrines that are wrong.
@benvanwieren
@benvanwieren 8 ай бұрын
What is the best Bible study mythology. Not sure if there are books to help. I have John McArthur Study Bible. Any help would be appreciated. Gog Bless
@oztheberean
@oztheberean 8 ай бұрын
Don’t rely too much on books, because they are all going to be biased and opinionated. Stick to reading the Bible chronologically. You can download or print out a plan. Don’t rush through it. It’s not a race. It’s about reading and studying the scriptures in proper context. Remember, the bible was not written “to us.” It was written “for us.”
@npcortezjr
@npcortezjr Жыл бұрын
The Apostles of Jesus in the Book of Acts were Pentecostal Charismatic believers, even Jesus Himself. Because He demonstrated the power of the Holy Spirit, and His disciples believe in the Power and Gifts of the Holy Spirit. Pentecostal theology is so different from the Cessationism theology who does not believe in the Ministry power and gifts of the Holy Spirit.
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 Жыл бұрын
Jesus was not a Pentecostal charismatic believer, and neither were the apostles. Before you can speak on cessationism you need to know the truth about it. so many speak of it, but don’t understand it. This is why it is very important to attend the right Bible colleges that will teach the word of God in its proper hermeneutical approach.
@joshtanj2
@joshtanj2 Жыл бұрын
It seems that it is the culture more than the poor theology that is so toxic in Pentecostalism. I wonder if the church culture is a result of poor theology or it is the church culture that leads to a deteriorating theology, ex. from "claiming" blessings instead of "asking", to prosperity gospel...
@benjilacombe7478
@benjilacombe7478 Жыл бұрын
As a Christian I visited one in Las Vegas for fellowship. After 8 visits the pastor found I didn't believe the same way as they did. He stood on the platform denouncing my belief in front of the congregation. Afterward he came to me to personally say I wasn't welcome anymore. What a shame, there is good people in there falling for deceit. I'm glad you got a revelation of Gods Word.
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 Жыл бұрын
It is so sad the deception that fills the pulpits of America. It is Gods judgment because many do not love the truth. Thanks for your response!
@teachmywordministries277
@teachmywordministries277 24 күн бұрын
Wow! Just wow! I'm so sorry you went through that.
@Campbells-Clan
@Campbells-Clan 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know what Pentecostal church you when to but Pentecostal church are still the best church I when to
@barrylaforce376
@barrylaforce376 Жыл бұрын
Brother your specific start had to do with the enviroment you were exposed to and for that, that is unfortunate. Let it known Pentacostalism does and has true training. The big problem is elders around you were greatly lacking. Amen
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 Жыл бұрын
Some teaching in Pentecostalism is correct, like most evangelical churches, but the majority of Pentecostalism is bad theology. Pentecostalism teaches that modern tongues is the gift of languages or gift of tongues. But in scripture, It clearly is not. An Arminian view of Soteriology and pneumatology is also held too in Pentecostalism. Which is also problematic. This is something that Pentecostal people do not have knowledge of because there is not thorough training in Bible history or church history. I recommend you subscribe to my KZbin channel where I teach in depth on “the truth about Pentecostalism.”
@francispumbu8340
@francispumbu8340 9 ай бұрын
Doctrine of Grace is what we need today. Faith alone in Christ Jesus is key today. Sight, sings, wonders, speaking in tongues, healing, raising sick etc are foe Jews. They are not for us gentiles. This penticoastal movement fails to study and understand dispensation periods. It should put them where they belong to ie right place for us today is Pauline gospel. Saved by faith and not by works, signs and wonders, healing, raising deaths, miracles etc. Thanks from Papua New Guinea.
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 9 ай бұрын
God bless you! Thanks for the response!
@Zeynep-uq9pf
@Zeynep-uq9pf 3 жыл бұрын
All Pentecostal Church are not the same.....brother . There are many Pentecostal Churches and I'm the one from the The Pentecostal Mission India. They preach the truth, they teach the sound doctrine. Praise the Lord.
@johnbarrera1
@johnbarrera1 3 жыл бұрын
what bible do they use?
@Zeynep-uq9pf
@Zeynep-uq9pf 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnbarrera1 KJV Bible
@barbaraweaver2100
@barbaraweaver2100 2 жыл бұрын
“the one true church” - run as fast as you can.
@douggauzy6258
@douggauzy6258 2 жыл бұрын
@@Zeynep-uq9pf The one true church is not a denomination . So you truly don’t know !
@ibelieve98
@ibelieve98 Жыл бұрын
Do y'all think someone goes to hell if they don't speak in tongues?
@elizabethwebb5769
@elizabethwebb5769 Жыл бұрын
NOT all Pentecostal Churches are the same. I'm happy with the Pentecostal Church that I attend in Australia. 😮It is Sound Doctrine. Don't Judge ALL Pentecostal Churches as being the same as you attended 😮
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 Жыл бұрын
I understand that not all Pentecostal churches are the same. I am speaking of Pentecostalism! If your church speaks in tongues, it is Pentecostalism! Modern tongues today in the Pentecostal church is not the gift of languages in Acts 2: - Does your church practice tongues?
@elizabethwebb5769
@elizabethwebb5769 Жыл бұрын
Not the church that we attend regularly, which is a Slavic church, but the English speaking churches that we sometimes attend, do practice tongues.
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 Жыл бұрын
I have a ‘gift of languages’ 4 part series on my KZbin channel and also ‘the truth about Pentecostalism’ series, that I would recommend. It will help you to understand a lot about Pentecostalism. I’m not saying a person can’t be saved in the Penecostal church or any church, because my wife and I were saved in a Pentecostal church, but many of their teachings are not biblical, and especially the tongues movement.
@elizabethwebb5769
@elizabethwebb5769 Жыл бұрын
Okay 👍. I'll check it out, thanks 🙏
@wenhari06
@wenhari06 6 ай бұрын
@@gracebibletruthministries6889Wjat worries me about your video is the willingness to slander people with claims such as that Pentecostal people are immoral. Is it true of you as well when you were in the movement? If years where is your confession if no then how can it be true of every one of us? I have was raised in a Pentecostal church that is the exact opposite of al the things you say- we had Bible study, we had small study groups. I guess all I am saying is, you have fallen into the typical angry, judgemental Calvinism that typifies most videos from the same camp
@miguelz8721
@miguelz8721 3 жыл бұрын
This really hits home A huge inner conflict i had with the pentecostal movement was the claim that they have the anointing of the Holy spirit and being led by him etc but there is so much bad theology , doctrines, teachings etc how can this be since the Holy spirit is the spirit of truth and will lead you into all truth I still believe that the gifts are for today and haven't ceased , but that whole situation of the contradictions just ate me up
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks michael for the comment. I was raised in the Pentecostal movement. And your right, there are many incorrect and bad teachings. Many are not saved that profess to be. That is the reason so many remain in false teaching. Those who are genuinely saved, and are still in Pentecostalism, the reason is many of them don’t know they are being given false teaching and heresy. So in Gods time they do eventually come out. A believer can give himself wholly to what he believes is true. Especially if he was raised in it and has been indoctrinated with bad theology. It takes time, but true believes will eventually see the error and make every effort to correct it. The Holy Spirit leads men to Christ. He leads them to truth. But the Holy Spirit will never reveal truth to a person who’s heart is not prepared for it. I hope that helps. May God bless you and make his face to shine upon you.
@mersixteen
@mersixteen 3 жыл бұрын
Doctrines of devils: m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4Waq6Sji7eChtk
@paulc1814
@paulc1814 2 жыл бұрын
@@gracebibletruthministries6889 Let's say those who open their eyes to Pentecostalism want to leave, where will they go? I also come from a Pentecostal background and have corrected Pastors with Scriptures. As a a result I have been kicked out of a few Pentecostal churches for questioning and correcting them about man made doctrines. I assume you are a Calvinist now from the sound of it. I cannot see myself leaving Pentecostal churches just to go to another type of legalistic church. I am by no means some super theologian but I do believe the Holy Spirit gives us the spiritual understanding of the Word. Jesus said " The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you-they are full of the Spirit and life." You say we need some training or some type of seminary, but you say the Holy Spirit led you out of Pentecostalism. Did you need some training or seminary for the Holy Spirit to lead you out? Do you believe the Holy Spirit led you to Truth or to another denomination?
@natalieamberger2432
@natalieamberger2432 Жыл бұрын
​@@paulc1814sounds like to another legalistic/cessationist denomination since he is recommending John McArthur which is NOT truth either. 😔
@svenpatersson140
@svenpatersson140 10 ай бұрын
​@@natalieamberger2432 John Macarthur is a true man of God. He is biblical.
@Fr4nkSanchez
@Fr4nkSanchez 2 жыл бұрын
I think some Pentecostal churches focus in speaking in tongues but I do not see anyone doing discernment of spirit if the tongues are legit. 33:23 you are absolutely right
@Salay3
@Salay3 Жыл бұрын
Hope many Christian will hear this
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 3 жыл бұрын
I understand clearly what you are saying. If it sounded like I was putting everyone in the same boat I want you to know I am not. I was saved in a Pentecostal church. But Pentecostalism(meaning Pentecostal theology) is bad theology for anyone to follow. The appeal that I made for men and women in this video was to come out of Pentecostalism and separate themselves from its teachings, because most of them are incorrect and not biblical. For example, The teaching of soteriology, and
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 3 жыл бұрын
And Pneumatology. To name a few. Learning the meaning of scripture is vital for every true believer. This is not found in most Pentecostal churches. And as far as Bible school if you are speaking of a Pentecostal Bible school then the theology is still going to be based on Arminianism which was considered heresy in church history. It is a false view of God and man and if there is a false view of God and man there will be a false view of the whole of scripture which is what Pentecostalism has done. Thanks for the response
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 3 жыл бұрын
pneumatology
@larryusher4562
@larryusher4562 Жыл бұрын
Did you speak in tongues? Was it of God or the devil?
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 Жыл бұрын
@@larryusher4562 I did speak in tongues. But in my case it was not of the devil. I was doing it. My wife and I were truly born again, we just were deceived concerning what we were doing.
@DjAmpfibian
@DjAmpfibian 2 жыл бұрын
Oneness Pentecostals are not the same!
@irenedeely427
@irenedeely427 8 ай бұрын
My husband & I left a charismatic church as leaders after 12 year membership. It's affect upon our faith took away from simply trusting in the absolute sufficiency of Jesus work on our behalf. The unintended consequence of seeking spiritual experiences, dreams, prophetic gifts and submission to "The Lord's anointed" produced fear and a subtle demotion of God's Word. So grateful The Good Shepherd rescued us from these hireling/wolves that had no real interest in the wellbeing of his sheep.
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 8 ай бұрын
That was so well put Irene! I will be praying for your guys. May the Lord keep you and make his face to shine upon you.
@irenedeely427
@irenedeely427 8 ай бұрын
And you...thank you for your faithful teaching of God's Word.
@teachmywordministries277
@teachmywordministries277 24 күн бұрын
Well said
@mohammedsaeed4554
@mohammedsaeed4554 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for exposing the false doctrine of the Pentecostal Charismatic churches
@Chuck-qi8pw
@Chuck-qi8pw 11 күн бұрын
I agree that the Pentecostal Church overall is very sincere of their doctrines. However, after being a part of this movement for 40+ years, emotionalism has been a major problem. Most of their churches seem made up with unstable people. There is a lot of turn over of leadership. Members come and go and many bounce from one church to another. Yes, their are a solid group who are relatively stable. They are good people. Although I believe one should have a balance in their life, some of these members are so close to the trees, they can’t see the forest. I’m not perfect and like many fall short in many areas. I’m a work in progress.Folks, be on your guard.
@wjdyr6261
@wjdyr6261 2 жыл бұрын
The call or choosing by God to preach or teach etc isn't a feeling. It has to be God and his choosing or calling. One called and chosen by God will be set aside and equipped by God.
@melodiesforhim
@melodiesforhim Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Pastor Mike, for your terrific explanation of why you left Pentecostalism. It has helped us define our reasons for leaving and given me good information that we can use to explain why we left to our friends who are still following those incorrect teachings. Our eyes have been opened the last couple of years and it’s been a relief to be reminded that God is sovereign, He is in control, He is faithful and we need Him more than ever! 🙏❤️
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your response. I am grateful for what God has been doing for you. God is faithful to bring his children out of false teaching. May the Lord keep you and make his face to shine upon you.
@MirandaDanda1983
@MirandaDanda1983 Жыл бұрын
I happened to come across you're video. Glad i did! I grew up pentecostal, and relate in so many ways! I was taught things wrong, and not in proper context... and endured alot of spiritual abuse. I guess that's what you would call it. Three strikes youre out.. mess up to many times God will be done with you. All i ever heard was about how angry God was. I was under a lot of control. I wanted to please man more than God. Constantly talking about losing salvation.. which instilled a fear in me. Not a godly, reverence fear of God.. but a spirit of fear always harassing me, that made me want to run from Him not to Him. I could go on, but you get the point. I came out of all that, but i still struggle sometimes because of everything i went through. Especially His love for me..and that should not be, i know He died on the cross because He loved us, but i really battle that and i feel embarrassed and ashamed. Its hard to explain what i go through. I really need prayer. Its like im starting all over, relearning everything... I know im Healing, but it's heen a long, hard and lonely process .. and feel it has hindered my growth more than I'd like to admit.🙏
@mjhickson4339
@mjhickson4339 2 жыл бұрын
Holiness is a scriptural command , and has nothing to do with dominational separations it comes from scripture “be holy as I am holy”-God
@Kerygmame
@Kerygmame 2 жыл бұрын
Bible school the ruin of many a young bible believer
@augdea0427
@augdea0427 Жыл бұрын
I plan to listen to the rest of your testimony but I just listened to the 1st 10 minutes and realize that you're probably a Calvinist and believe in. Irresistible grace. I'm curious if that is true?
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 Жыл бұрын
I am not a Calvinist, but I do believe the doctrines of grace are biblical.
@augdea0427
@augdea0427 Жыл бұрын
@gracebibletruthministries6889 So you believe in irresistible grace given to those predestined for the elect that were chosen before the foundation of the world? That's how my PHD reformed Calvinist dear Pastor friend would describe doctrines of grace.
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 Жыл бұрын
Well, the Bible doesn’t use the term irresistible grace, but effectual call. So I prefer to use that term. As far as predestined before the foundation of the world, yes! This is also clear in scripture. So the meaning of the doctrines of grace are biblical. Reformed theology is just bible theology.
@augdea0427
@augdea0427 Жыл бұрын
@gracebibletruthministries6889 I don't see the term effectual call in the bible either. If you're really interested in the truth regarding predestination destination/calvinism then look into the modern day teachings of Leighton Flowers. Calvinistic teachings are not as clear in scripture as many espouse. Is it really the nature of God that we read about in the bible to hate from before the foundation of the world and fashion the greatest portion of mankind for eternal destruction before so he can be glorified in that? I really hesitate to say that Calvinistsic teachings are a different gospel but I believe it's worth you taking a second look at. I fell into this teaching when I left Pentecostalism because I thought those teaching me were so very biblically intelligent. Have a blessed night! Love in Christ Dean
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 Жыл бұрын
Yes I am familiar with Leighton teachings as well. Effectual call is all thru the New Testament. In the Greek language there is the general call and the effectual call of God. Anyway, God bless!
@theforce10001
@theforce10001 3 жыл бұрын
I’m embarrassed to have belonged to that sect for more than 10yrs. Still gives me anxiety when I think of all the people that are brainwashed and taken advantage of by those animals.
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, thanks for your response.
@RalphBrickley
@RalphBrickley 2 жыл бұрын
37:10 Strange Fire is a book I wish every Pentecostal would read with an open mind and heart. It was preceded by John Macarthur's book Charismatic Chaos.
@paulc1814
@paulc1814 2 жыл бұрын
I would recommend Authentic Fire by Dr. Michael Brown.
@respectingthewordpodcast
@respectingthewordpodcast Жыл бұрын
@@paulc1814 The idea is to get away from people like Brown. You didn't listen to the video.
@shanewilson2270
@shanewilson2270 Жыл бұрын
@@respectingthewordpodcastJohn MacArthur is false. Not believing in spiritual gifts is denial of gods word. Is plain as day taught in the New Testament church.
@angloaust1575
@angloaust1575 3 жыл бұрын
Keep to reading the bible All we need to know is in scripture No one has a monopoly on god!
@theycallmegbayi
@theycallmegbayi 2 жыл бұрын
Probably the best comment I have seen on KZbin on spirituality/theology in a while especially the monopoly one.
@cincin4515
@cincin4515 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@loleki737
@loleki737 8 ай бұрын
This is a comprehensive and gracious explanation and testimony. Those I know of this thought are some of the most materialistic and mean Christians I've encountered. You're told that you're not saved if you don't speak in their version tongues or that if you study or want to discuss bible doctrine that you're not walking in the Spirit. It's heartbreaking. ❤🙏✝️🙏❤️
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 8 ай бұрын
May the Lord bless you! Thanks for the comment.
@alejandroveliz5713
@alejandroveliz5713 Жыл бұрын
You just dropped out of the pot and into the fire, that's all.
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 Жыл бұрын
I’m not sure what you mean. Can u explain?
@ThePatooch
@ThePatooch 2 жыл бұрын
im with you brother, it is a church that encourages the flesh, rather than the Spirit. ive spoke out against these peoples false doctrines but unless the Lord moves on them i cant see it changing. And many of those pastors KNOW that some of their doctrines are wrong but are told to hold fast to the traditions of the church founders.
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you brother! Thanks for your response.
@Dave-if5qj
@Dave-if5qj 2 күн бұрын
Was raised in it never questioned it coused me life long trauma Luckily Once i started reading the bible for myself and discovering Grace it changed everything for me
@7CorgiGirl
@7CorgiGirl 9 күн бұрын
Hi Mike. I was a Calvinist for 30 years. Listened to it. Believed it. Defended it. Discussed it. I was in Calvinist only churches. Then a few years ago, a nine Calvinist friend of mine urged me to study with people such as Leighton Flowers and Warren McGrew with regards to their belief of the errors of Calvinism. It took me hundreds of hours of teachings. It was a difficult thing for me to come away from Calvinism, but now I see how utterly wrong the whole TULIP system is. I had to come out of the church I had been in many years due to a preacher change. The new preacher was full on Calvinistic. I couldn’t stand it anymore. I’ve now come to a charismatic believing church, mainly because where I live in the UK the choice is limited. Most are Church of England with their relaxed views and woman preachers and will marry any two people. I sadly do see in this church much of the behaviour you describe. The service is not seen as good unless there is people shaking, or falling on the floor and even ‘holy laughter’. It’s all about collective emotion. It’s also lead many times by women, which I know isn’t right. So I’m considering leaving church altogether. Staying at home and watching pastors who I know and trust on KZbin. I already read my bible and study every day. I don’t feel as though I need to join in collective emotion to know I have the Holy Spirit. If you do get time to answer me I would greatly appreciate it. My question to you too is are you now Calvinistic. The pastor who took over the church where I left two years ago, came out of a charismatic church and has swung right over to complete cessationism and Calvinism. I wish there was a none Calvinistic, none charismatic church near me but alas I don’t even know if they exist. Thanks
@sarahs7751
@sarahs7751 3 жыл бұрын
I want my husband to leave the pentecostal movement but it seems hopeless....he seems to be pentecostal inside. He was raised a pentecostal from his mother..I don't know what "type" of pentecostal but they are mexican. I grew up in a baptist church but it seems to get bible preaching I have to go to a baptist church. He says he won't be going to any baptist church with me and I don't know what to do. Our house is divided.. all I want is my husband and I to be active in church together but he is pentecostal from his head to his toes.. .. he says I should have married a baptist and I said I should have married a man I can follow. His church pastors a false teacher and he believes that he believes the full gospel and God speaks to him. His fully deceived....it seems there's no hope for us. I wish he'd stop being pentecostal..... my husband doesn't care about false doctrine....won't read a book cause suppendly they are all men's teachings....how can things get better? My husband is 1000 % pentecostal.
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Sarah, thanks for your response. There are so many people facing the same things you are going through. When you are divided in your home and your husband believes he is following biblical truth when he is not, it is very hard indeed to unite together in matrimonial harmony. but I do feel your pain and your cry for help. I try to encourage everyone to spend more time in fasting and prayer, and to believe and know that God is sovereign, and that if your husband is truly a believer, he will eventually see the truth, and come out of false theology. Remember, your responsibility is to be submissive to your husband and love him the way the bible says too. however, that does not mean you submit to anything that is against Gods word. Neither should you participate in anything that is contrary to scripture. The answer is hard at times, but God is faithful and will help you and strengthen you to remain steadfast to the truth of scripture. Many are deceived because they want to fit in and not be contrary. but if they truly belong to God, the Holy Spirit will lead them into all truth. I myself was in Pentecostalism for 24 years before coming out. it was a process of many years but little by little as we matured, the Lord revealed to us the scriptures. I don't mean to be negative, but many believing wives have found out that their husbands were actually religious and not true believers after all. I hope that is not the case with your husband, but if it is, you must pray the Lord to save him. if it is not true, you must pray God would open his eyes to see the truth. I will place your husband on our prayer list and pray for him daily. - I hope I have given you some hope. trust God, hold to the truth of scripture and God will remain faithful to you.
@sarahs7751
@sarahs7751 3 жыл бұрын
@@gracebibletruthministries6889 yes, thankyou for your response, a appreciate it and I'm glad to have stumbled upon your channel. I doubt I'm the only one in an unequally yoked marriage. You never know how different pentecostal beliefs are from bible beliefs until you are married then the differences become so clear.
@mersixteen
@mersixteen 3 жыл бұрын
Doctrines of devils: m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4Waq6Sji7eChtk
@mrgeorge1888
@mrgeorge1888 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of pentecostal church that your husband in for? I'm a mainstrean trinitarian pentecostal, and we hold to the scripture thoroughly and linger to the guidance of the Holy Spirit daily. Your husband's attitude toward you, it can't be from God. Be merciful and patient in this worldly suffering, sister. Gbu always
@julieburnette3426
@julieburnette3426 15 күн бұрын
Read your Bibles. Reading the Bible provided me questions about what the Pentecostal church was preaching. Left after 5 years.
@peggyblack1
@peggyblack1 Жыл бұрын
I read John MacArthur’s book Charismatic Chaos and that confirmed what i had already been shown. Fake and false pentecostal teaching were sickening to me. Thank you Lord for leading me out of error and guiding me into all truth.
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 Жыл бұрын
I am grateful for what God has done for you Peggy! Thank you for your response.
@lulurosenkrantz3720
@lulurosenkrantz3720 Жыл бұрын
Coincidentally it was John MacArthur teaching that bought me back to a true understanding of The Bible & the Personality of Jesus Lord . After walking out in disgust after years in the Pentecostal movement . Australia .
@kidmeoli1458
@kidmeoli1458 Жыл бұрын
The fact of the matter is, you simply cannot look into the heart of a man or woman and judge whether or not it’s sincere or he’s not sincere, only God can look into the heart of man and judge that
@Job_Siciliano
@Job_Siciliano Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing 🙏🏽
@danielhanson4326
@danielhanson4326 Жыл бұрын
The scriptures say come out of her my people unless you be partakers of her plagues
@nickbrooks8248
@nickbrooks8248 2 жыл бұрын
Mike I struggled with drugs and went to a heavy Pentecostal rehab run by an ex Bikie, he claimed to be a Christian and used to publicly shame members who sinned or annoyed him and pray curses over people who left the program. He also encouraged people to confess very private things all the time even publicly. That was four years ago and I struggle to trust God anymore and want nothing to do with any Christianity but I liked your video and I admire your research and passion. Your a legend mate.
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Nick! Remain faithful to God and trust in his word and he will guide you to the truth! God bless!
@Mazoea
@Mazoea 2 жыл бұрын
Same to me too.after I left so pentecostal church they start harassing me and monitoring my phone call.idnt know pentecostal worshipping Snake is their god.
@andrewgoss6486
@andrewgoss6486 Жыл бұрын
It is fascinating to hear some people use the word 'grace' as a replacement for 'Holy Ghost'. Some people even use a capital 'G'. Grace is God's unmerited favor. It is definitely true that none of us could be saved from the coming judgment without grace. Thankfully, God extended his grace by sending his Comforter in the form of the Holy Ghost so that we can be saved.
@JLovsChrist
@JLovsChrist Жыл бұрын
I came across this video and agree with everything you said. I grew up in a Pentecostal church and was there until the age of 15. I left the church entirely and headed into the wilderness but by the grace of God I returned to the Lord and now I am in a church that focuses on Christ Alone and His word. Thank you for sharing your testimony my brother in Christ. You have some awesome videos here I need to look at, keep up the content. May the Lord continue to bless your ministry.
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 Жыл бұрын
It is always a blessing to hear encouraging words! Thank you so much brother! God is faithful! May the Lord keep you and make his face to shine upon you.
@dannyjackson5189
@dannyjackson5189 3 ай бұрын
I was in the pentacostal church. The Holy Sprit did come upon me not at church . But at home. We converted to the Holy Orthodox Chirch . The anchient Church. I agree with much of what you've said . Please don't become calvinist people. Read about John Calvin and Martin Luther and Ulrich Swingli. Sola scriptura is always from the point of view of the reader without the historical church that is passed from the apostles it's all man made. McArthur's dead god, ceaseationist is also man made. The scripture actually states the Church is the pillar and ground of the truth. Truth didn't come 1500 years later. Read Ignatius of Antioch, read Clement, read Polycarp men that knew the apostles. The church had no book of cannon for almost 400 years..did the all go to hell?
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 Ай бұрын
I'm sorry but you are bit confused about the things you are saying! I will be praying for you!
@dannyjackson5189
@dannyjackson5189 25 күн бұрын
​@@gracebibletruthministries6889 Sir,what am I confused about?
@gracebibletruthministries6889
@gracebibletruthministries6889 25 күн бұрын
You said sola scriptura was man made and cessationism is man made. I’m confused on why you would think this. And you said John MacArthurs dead god. I don’t understand the point.
@dannyjackson5189
@dannyjackson5189 19 күн бұрын
​@@gracebibletruthministries6889 Isn't John McArthur a cessationist? So is there a scripture that says after this certain date the Holy Spirit is going on vacation or into retirement ? What book is that in. There is a set if books ,the synaxarion that has many miraculous events that have taken place throughout the world also witnesses until the present time of such miraculous events. Sovereignty to Calvinist philosophically means pragmatically or semantically what Calvinist want to it to mean. When they say God is sovereign they mey the Calvinist Sovereignty. The view is God used to do things when his back was against the wall but now he does not have to so he's shut down shop. There can be miracles because miracles can not happen.
@dannyjackson5189
@dannyjackson5189 19 күн бұрын
​@@gracebibletruthministries6889The point was this, that you found fault with a movement that started in the 1900s and you did right to re-examine what happened but you only went back 400- 500 years. I do not want to fault you , but the origin point is not Calvin..we were born and raised to think scripture is perspicuous. And no one needs to tell us anything..pride and hubris is what it is. At a point it just a false idea that what the pope is doing is paganism. Or whatever the adventist or Mormons or JWs or Hislop and those before him wrote. But you have to go back before the great schism, and if you're as honest as you seem to be it won't matter if you get it your way..the only thing that will only matter is how they did Christianity inthe anchient times..read Ignatius of Antioch, Clément, Polycarp, Irenaeus. Ignatius was raised by the apostol John.. try it ...try to find s hint of Calvinism.
@keithparker5625
@keithparker5625 Ай бұрын
This doesn't sound like the Pentecostal churches I've attended. I'm sorry that you've fallen into the false doctrine of Martin Luther; sadly this doesn't take into account the book of James. And I'm so sorry that you've been mislead and mistreated by the church you attended. 1 Corinthians 15 says that it is the gospel that saves us, if we remember and obey it.
@davidbrock4104
@davidbrock4104 Жыл бұрын
It takes a lot to put yourself out there for the criticism that was sure to follow. I completely agree that often the Biblical texts are not correctly interpreted. It has led to huge misunderstandings across the board. But this is true for numerous groups, not just Pentecostals. I could never leave the Pentecostal experience, as I have seen healings and miracles. I have seen the gifts of the Spirit work and while they are abused and misused, that does not mean that they should be abandoned. These are not salvation issues though, so we can agree to disagree. When we are worshipping in Heaven, it won't matter. All of our sorrows and cares will be forever gone. I can't wait for that day to come. God bless you as you work in God's kingdom
@TSeeker1
@TSeeker1 Ай бұрын
How would you know what was from the HOLY Spirit and what was from "another spirit"? You have seen the fraud, so how do you distinguish? A broken clock is right twice a day, lol.😅 I'm genuinely asking because I'm a former occultist (psychic, medium and "healer" who employed "spirit guides" and have seen "miraculous" healings in that satanic religion). But, no one was raised from the dead at their funeral, no one crippled from birth got up and lept around. It was mostly subjective, mind over matter because they "believed" they were healed and of course, even demons have some powers for the unbelieving. Cheap counterfeits. Prayer, I have found since I became a born again follower of Christ Jesus, is the most powerful tool and weapon of all! Bowing to HIS authority, petitioning His mercy and grace. Not the showmanship that seeks to glorify the "gifted". It's a real fine line.
@mrnoedahl
@mrnoedahl Жыл бұрын
Now you have been given the gift of Calvinism. Congratulations.
@oztheberean
@oztheberean 8 ай бұрын
Right!? 😅
@alexgreen5801
@alexgreen5801 5 ай бұрын
When you say “FREE GIFT GOD GAVE YOU” referring to the salvation. You are totally wrong in understanding what salvation means. It does not mean a passport to heaven. It only mean you are saved from sin, saved from Satans control over your entire life. Now being saved we are no longer slaves to sing. No longer controlled by satan. However this van change in pur lives is we go back and sin and listen to Satan again.
@carlwalker3557
@carlwalker3557 5 ай бұрын
Keep trying, Jesus says those who believe and are baptized will be saved. Not Grace Only, and teachings which are the basis of truth. Not of works of righteousness is right, baptism is a work of righteousness as Jesus said to John, yet is a command, necessary interrogation to God for a good conscience. You must be in a church in the Bible, the church of Christ. Doesn’t matter what people say or do. what the scripture says does.
@MateoMiller-r4i
@MateoMiller-r4i 3 ай бұрын
If you believe that Jesus is God and baptize In his name(Acts 2 .38 and do follow the teaching of Jesus Christ ,u are in the right place
@jamesstrohl2016
@jamesstrohl2016 Жыл бұрын
Wrong salvation is through the obedience to Christ's teaching. In Acts 2 it plainly states that baptism is for the remissions of sins. To be added to the Church. To receive the Holy Spirit. How can you receive any of these things without being baptized. In Colossians 2 :10and you have been filled in him, who is the head of all rule and authority. 11In him also you were circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, 12having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the powerful working of God, who raised him from the dead. 13And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, 14by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross. 15He disarmed the rulers and authoritiesb and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them in him. Baptism is where God, not the man baptizing one, or the person who went forward to be baptized. It is God doing the work. Because these examples show without a doubt you can lose your salvation. You and I need to talk. You are still askewed in your understanding of the Bibe.
@georgerudesill4302
@georgerudesill4302 Жыл бұрын
Because you probably didn't belong there. Just stay connected to Jesus and all His people of love Him. Probably, outside the 4 wall churches. I LEFT TO
@Silver_The_Dreadful
@Silver_The_Dreadful 6 ай бұрын
While I disagree with you on Arminianism (I have never been able to rationalize how you could have an all loving God under calvinism. I should probably say that I technically do believe in a form of predestination in as much that I do think God is aware of where we will all end up but I do not think He has neccessarily prevented any man from coming to Him.) I will say your interpretation of the pentacostal movement is correct however and they appear to be possessed. Even Paul said that an entire church should not speak in tounges as people would think you are crazy.
@PowerSweep
@PowerSweep 3 ай бұрын
This is so, so, on target. I know exactly what he is talking about. Experienced it too. Still have family trapped in this and don't know how to reach them.
@Fredericko-k7p
@Fredericko-k7p 23 күн бұрын
If Jesus is the truth it means everything that professes to have a life of its own is a lie. The mere fact that a organization would have its own name and commit to a particular manifestation it's already a lie.
@strongkind198
@strongkind198 11 ай бұрын
Sorry for all your failure. The Bible says Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith. There's no perfect church but there is a perfect doctrine Acts. 2:38 is given by God. Apostle Paul wrote about caring for the body of Christ. If you think your perfect? I don't think so when you see so many faults.
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