Why I Love Code Geass

[@dimitriasimov356]

It's my third favorite anime and I have seen it literally hundreds of times through now. Is it perfect? Almost. Do I think everyone should watch it? Absolutely

[@viggo5756]

i might have to give it another watch

[@solomon1453]

ayy

[@hollyscahill3325]

@ManTheDan i bet the phrase "Namjala Latak" in Resurrection is why the Hindi dub of Code Geass exists nowadays. Plus, the whole Indian setting.

[@TheKnightOfZ0]

0:19 I think Code Geass is the only show That has no flaws for me what so ever. 1:34 ig by the clip u put in while timing it to u saying some of his solutions were silly, you’re trying to say him geassing himself was bad idea, what I don’t get is, how is that a bad idea? Genuinely how, if anything it was one of the smartest and over the top tactics by Lelouch in a very pressured moment. 5:10 I think not liking a what u call “silly episodes” like cat chasing or hat stealing, is a terrible criticism bc like you admit, cg does a great job at balancing tone shift of the narrative with a sense of realism in dynamic contrast between japan and Britainnian life styles but you also think it doesn’t always do a well job therefore the criticism is valid. Completely disagree with the idea that the tone balance of Cg not being perfect as it in reality has no flaws within them because even the cat chasing ep which the entire event of chasing the cat lasts only 8 mins on screen max while it also is allowing us to digest the foreshadowing of how Lelouch and suzakus relationship in school where they arent against each other and working together is shown and more. This sort of criticism is irrelevant in other shows that have much more goofy scenes in them such as one piece, gintama, atla, monogatori, and in cases with death note which is shorter than CG and cant afford to waste time with “silly” moments still does it and instead of complaining about it, fans always praise it and say they wish they had more of it. So i think its bias to complain about CG tone shift and balance of the narrative when CG does it the best in a most perfect sense of realism involving it while also still adding on to the narrative without seeming as a filler. 7:00 How on earth is the final episode of mao arc the worst episode in the show when it literally gives in sight to suzakus psyche and lets us understand his cognitive dissonance. 7:26 the explanation of maos survival makes perfect sense and is theoretically smart via the fact that in policeman mindset, when they are shooting a target it is in the intent of neutralizing them, not killing them. When Lelouch commanded them to shoot mao, the command of “shoot” regarded to them as neutralizing rather than homocide because thats how the policeman mind works and thats how they’re trained to shoot in protocol and it also explains maos wounds and where he was shot, if you see the episodes 15 and 16 you see the wounds match up on all nonfatal areas of the body such as limbs, it also makes sense for both Lelouch’s character to simply tell them to shoot mao rather than kill because Lelouch was in such rush to save CC that he possibly didnt overthink the commands instructions and result. Also you’re forgetting mao mentioned how he was treated by Britannian medical technology even so, I hope people realize the time skip between eps 15-16 isnt one day thing. 7:45 how is the resolution dumb? 8:05 what questions does Lelouch being able to use Geass on himself of mirror reflection looking directly at his eye balls bring up about the Geass? “None of which the show will elaborate on”, again what? Why would the show need to elaborate on how Lelouch literally uses the geass on himself? It’s literally shown how and I don’t think we need to be spoon fed with dialogue on it because if you watched CG at least more than once you can sorta get the idea of show don’t tell style of writing rather than spoon feeding. So how is this episode not meant to exist or is a mess? 9:11 firstly, it wasn’t accidental that the command happened and it wasn’t even Lelouch that gave a command, what happened was that Lelouch was giving an extreme hypothetical example to euphy to emphasize how serious he was about having such ability and as he gave that hypothetical, the Geass with the mind and will of its own used it to activate itself as form of command to euphy rather than Lelouch doing it out of his will. The reason why his Geass essentially betrayed him is because of the fact that Lelouch technically betrayed his Geass since Lelouch was betraying the vow and mindset he had when he first gained Geass in use, and thus this moment was not a contrivance or convenience. 9:35 Lelouch never gave a joke, again he was giving an extreme hypothetical to emphasize his SERIOUSNESS about his ability to his new ally (euphy) so its not out of character at all

[@TheKnightOfZ0]

11:23 how is first half of season 2 flawed? I think with Jeremiah and Marianne plot twist and if it was given more reveals then it would ruin the perfect plot twist that they are and cheapen the idea of plot twist in the show.

[@alexeychubarov5875]

Where did you be all this time. Finally someone who truly understands this show.

[@hollyscahill3325]

@ManTheDan I have another question for you. I know many Bleach dub voice actors did Code Geass. Which is older, Code Geass or Bleach? I am more into Code Geass than Bleach but I was just curious. I know Code Geass first aired in 2006 (the original series).

[@manthedan4828]

I looked it up and it seems like Bleach is older. It started it 2004 and started airing in English in 2006. The first episode of Code Geass in Japanese aired a month after that, and started airing in English in 2008.

[@hollyscahill3325]

​@@manthedan4828That's ok. I feel a little sad that no one else I know is into Code Geass (though I did show some episodes to my eldest of 2 sisters).

[@hiesen-iw2mm]

good job!

[@hollyscahill3325]

@ManTheDan Hey, I have a question for you. Have you ever had mixed emotions either before or after watching an episode of Code Geass? Like even for me, I feel happy one minute then sad the next. No one in my family seems to understand when I say that Code Geass is like that, it's such a thought provoking anime. There are lots of sad media outside of Code Geass, too. I'm not going insane or tormenting myself, it's just how Code Geass is. But I would like to know if this has happened to you, too.

[@manthedan4828]

Yeah I can think of episodes that gave me a similar feeling, balancing comedic and light hearted scenes with more heavy ones. There's some episodes that are pretty serious throughout (like the ending), but I've always associated the balancing of tones as a fundamental part of Code Geass, so I don't think it's weird at all to have that sort of emotional response. ^_^

[@hollyscahill3325]

​@@manthedan4828Yay, thank goodness someone feels the same way. My mum telling me to stop about Code Geass just because she has no interest is just cruel. No wonder I started crying! Look at Tamaki when he heard that Zero was Lelouch after Schneizel revealed his true identity to the Black Knights. He practically bawled his eyes out. Even Shirley started crying when Villetta said Lelouch may be linked to the Black Knights and said "No, that can't be true!" And these characters are not kids, they're teenagers/adults.

[@nsampone3]

The widespread criticisms and overall lower regard for Code Geass is because of a generation gap, the hype, and the mechs. Remember, at its core, anime is made for teens. The fanbase is largely young at all times. Code Geass is a mecha anime, which is a hated genre in today's anime landscape. Politics/war/strategy dont fit the modern trend towards fantasy and battle shonen. Older animes are only known to the young fanbase when they have hype. When other young people are gassing it up. It's an 00s anime and feels like one. Very few 'classics' survive this lack of hype. When an anime has a fanbase predominantly made up of 30+ men and women, it loses status.Especially with the dated Clamp artstyle. CG is often compared to two currently beloved animes - which hurts it. Lelouch is often compared to Light from Death Note. The ending was copied, largely, by Attack on Titan. Fans of Death Note and AoT are very critical of Code Geass because they feel attacked. Many of them have never seen CG, despite criticizing it, and proudly state they'd never watch it. These AoT superfans attack anything related to CG on reddit or social media. Often with the same cheap insults of "Code Gayass" and "LeDouche." But that hurts a show. Teens are social. Teens ride hype. Teens rarely think for themselves. So when they see a lot of this, they jump on the bandwagon.

[@luddent7505]

Spot on

[@TardMania]

I think Suzaku role in the series is heavily missunderstood. You're supposed to find him annoying, but if he was the main character, you'd root for him. Suzaku is a critique of the flawed main protagonists in other meccha/shonen animes. He's the Shinji from evangelion, the Setsuna from gundam zero etc.. and personally I'd say he's even more akin to Eren in AOT than Lelouch is, which at first might seem like a strange comparison, but AOT was inspired heavily from code geass, and the ending of that show is what would happen if someone "dumber"/"less strategically minded" attempted the same as Lelouch succeded in doing. I think the point of Code Geass, (especially considering the movies like Ressurection) is that human violence is fractally inevitable. This is evident by the antagonists in Ressurection, which was a country relying on weaponsales (aka violence) to thrive. In a poethic way, Lelouch flipped the table in R2 from being the small rebellions of the world, to have the warmongers of the world be the small rebellions. This is a much better feat than for instance Eren Jager, or dr.Manhattan whom had the same plan, but rather equallized the playingfield instead of "winning material"

[@shaunclancey1107]

i think if you view the cat taking the helmet from lelouch and the hat episode on ther eown they do seem very misplaced however if you put it in the theme of things they can give you goosebumps even, the cat episode was designed to show the sides of lelouch aswell as create a bond for the viewer to see between lelouch and suzakue to later destroy it and make it that much more important to you aswell as the more surface level stuff in showing how lelouch has to hide his identity. the hat episode i didnt know even made people upset i think its similar to the helmet episode . however because in season 2 shirley kinda took a back seat they had to make sure she was still likeable and can make her be able to make the viewer happy and hope lelouch will end up with herputting her very quickly to the level of c.c. and kallen so they can make her death hurt the viewer like it hurt lelouch. it made the viewer and lelouch experience the feeling of loosing kallen/c.c. without taking those important charaters from the plot.

[@xavy325]

i like everyyone but nina and kallren ruins the show

[@pozzytrack0]

I don’t like nina I don’t hate Suzaku just find him annoying C2 is best girl in series to me Cat + date ep can be skipped with no consequence to missed story. 16 with maou wasn’t great but it set up two arcs in the story. Idk what questions would pop up from 16 and lelouch geass on himself The Euphemia part from what I see is the make or break for most people on whether they like the series or not. Even though most series have major contrivances to keep the story going. S2 Part 1 was good imo however probably wasn’t interesting to most people. Sets up the divide within the black knights, Lelouch not being perfect, revival of the Black knights, answered questions after confusing start, sets up most of S2 with one character alone. Of course part 2 jumps right into it and no real indication happens before shit hits the fan and everything gets put into motion.

[@TheKnightOfZ0]

Not liking Nina is equivalent of not liking someone like Lelouch who technically caused more damage than Nina ever did but if you hate her because of her obsession with Euphy then that’s entirely different but just saying a bad person≠bad character and her reasons for obsession is entirely explained feasibly. Although I would say you’re notable for not hating suzaku, i still dont get why u find him annoying? Finding Suzaku annoying for what reason? Bc he is opposed to Lelouch? Well then shouldn’t we be annoyed at every antagonistic figure in media? Finding suzaku annoying because of his false ideals and facade about ends not justifying the means and him being a hypocrite about what he says vs what he does? That gives him depth and complexity and his reasoning for hypocrisy is also warranted through his past traumas as a kid. Why on earth would anyone skip the episode 6 of s1 and episode 12 of season 2? Seriously though, calling it “cat” or “date” episode is reducing it to just that when the so called cat episode with the cat chasing lasts about entirely 8 out of the 24 mins of the episode… why act like theyre filler when theyre cannon events occurring? It shows the racism and prejudice to suzaku, it shows glimpses of how Lelouch and Suzaku work together (foreshadowing their dynamic together for later on in the show) and more. If people only got that the episode was about chasing a cat or just going on dates then I pity them. How was episode 16 with mao arc not great? Especially if like you said, it set up two sequel arcs for the story. Aside from that, mao plays an important role of exposition about Geass power and it’s consequences. What do you mean by “what questions would pop up from 16 and Lelouch geass on himself” ? The Euphy massacre if thats what u were referring to, isnt at all a contrivance bc regardless of Lelouch’s geass activating on its own to force a hypothetical to become an imperative on her is irrelevant in continuation of the story. S2 doesnt consist of the idea of part 1 and part 2 but ig you personally separate it like that, firstly s2 isnt entirely setup by one character, and idk where part 2 starts for you but there was no moment where it jumps right into anything without any indication.

[@pozzytrack0]

@@TheKnightOfZ0 I was just going in order of the video. I hate Nina as a character not because of her actions. Everything she does in a way makes sense however her inability to accept criticism, face reality, and open discrimination just don’t appeal to me. The very things you point out are what I find annoying about Suzaku he’s an opportunist he will say one thing then openly go against what he said and continues doing so throughout the series. I was defining S2 part 1 and 2 based on the video part 1 being the first 13 as in the video part 2 14-25. I say you can skip ep 6 because we get the very same idea in the ep Suzaku and Lelouch destroyed the Chinese fed base on, and Euphemias confession. The date episode from my memory had little to no real story significance other then Shirley romance which we both know where that goes. I’ve seen many comments and complaints regarding the Euphemia scene and how it totally ruined the show for most people which is exactly what I said. I don’t see it as contrived personally that is just the major complaint I’ve seen. Ep 16 sets up major points however it pales in comparison to the previous episodes with Maou. Let’s be honest here maou should not have survived past ep 15 and you already got the feeling of how much of a problem Geass could be in Ep 14 they could have killed maou and went straight into kamine Island and gotten the same idea why cause Lelouch and Susakus survival on top of the awakening of V2 signified a significant geass event. Even the first encounter with Maou and after talk with C2 show the significance Lelouch yells at C2 about how horrible of a person she is cause she didn’t finish the job. We get how important geass is within the first 4 eps of the show. The only indication of the death of a certain character is within the ep of death. Even with the death flag it was something I personally didn’t predict. First time watching it was a huge surprise. I don’t believe Jerimiyas loyalty to Marion was ever really indicated until his confrontation with Lelouch. I could be wrong as I can’t remember every dialogue line he had up to that point in the story. We could assume something was up with the knight of 1 but guessing he had a geass wasn’t my first assumption. Probably a few things I missed as I’m at work and tying fast.

[@TheKnightOfZ0]

@@pozzytrack0 okay, so you’re just saying you hate a character that is relatable to many people in the inability to accept criticism, face reality, and show hatred via past traumas. Thats cool, ig you have your preference in writing values. Same applies Suzaku to you Ig, also Suzaku being a opportunist is also not inherent because that’s not what he is doing purposely but again thats surface level and blank statement to say thats all his character adds up to. Well you need to understand that the idea we get in ep 6 vs ep 20 (i think it was) is on whole different levels because one demonstrates suzaku with Lelouch himself as he doesn’t have anything against him also theyre in a more relaxed setting vs suzaku working together with Zero meaning u still cannot skip ep 6, idk what u mean by euphys confession. The date episode did have a lot to the real story as significance idk why you think discrediting shirelys romance is valid by hinting at its result unless u also think that it was somehow bad but regardless there was more done in that episode than that alone. Ok, if you were mentioning the Euphy massacre as a voice for general hatred from people who haven’t actually analyzed or understood the scene then thats fine, regardless what I explained still stands for it just in case someone else didn’t get it. Again, As long as you admit that ep16 is great then idrc if you think its not on the same level exactly as the other two eps in that arc. In all honesty Mao should have and it was perfect that he did survive past 15 because he would have less of a significant affect and presence in the show and no I didn’t get the feeling of how badly of a problem geass could be just by ep 14 or 15 so killing off mao that early would be rushed and not as perfect as what actually was done bc the same idea wouldnt have reached. “Why cause Lelouch and suzakus survival on top of the awakening of V2 signified a significant geass event.” This is a terrible point because for one, anyone who reached to this point of the story and nothing passed it yet wouldnt have reached this idea and it would seem as a massive headcanon is being made here without actually seeing how its actually revealed later on in s2 and by that point the ideas regarding geass would be irrelevant to most audience, but even ignoring that, what u said based off the events in ep 18-20 ish in kamine island do NOT involve elaborating on the problems of the Geass as mao arc did, especially when ep 18-20 are too subtle at the time to be simplified as even a Geass event so you can’t just say it signifies a geass event, in short this point doesnt help you argue that ep 16 was irrelevant. The first encounter with mao and conversation with Cc and Lelouch after that does signify those things but it’s not as significant as ep 16. We do not get how important Geass is in the first 4 episodes of the show, we barely even know the full capabilities of Geass and the fact others have it until 14 so that idea is entirely wrong, especially how we later are introduced to the metaphysical nature of Geass in affect with mind and reality which is showcased after s1 in akito the exiled and season 2 (chronologically speaking). “The only indication of the death of a certainty character is within the ep of death” what does that mean? What do you mean by “even with the death flag it was something I personally didnt predict” ? Why would Jeremiah’s loyalty to marianne need yo be so indicated until the actual plot twist itself? The definition of plot twist itself is unexpected development in the story, as for indicating it, there were few and they were mostly subtle and nuanced. Jeremiah was stated to be a pure blooded loyalist faction, this means that he was more similar to royal blood in a sense that the royal family is also from the pure blood that originated from the first ever emperor of Britainnia. Meaning that Jeremiah must have had a deem sense of loyalty to at least someone from the faction or at least that he must have had deem passion and sense of duty to Britainnia itself but that itself was obvious based off the things he said, regardless i dont think this plot twist was remotely supposed to be spoonfed of indication or so obvious.