Why I love Divination Wizards in Baldur's Gate 3

[@judostar11]

Divination Wizard was my first ever player character in tabletop and it's cool to see how Larian changed it up in BG3. In tabletop, your expert divination just lets you get a spell slot up to 5th level back that's lower than the divination spell you cast. The change to it giving you prophecies is a really nice touch and it really makes the subclass feel like you're a soothsayer in the game. As a DM, I would love to see something like it in tabletop but toned down so it doesn't outright break the game.

[@crikk23]

As the DM you can make it happen 😊 I tend to go with them being able to pick a map area or quest and give bit hints or info on it. They are also great for quest hooks or bits of lore taste

[@judostar11]

@@crikk23 That's true and that's also great idea that you have!

[@klasgelinder]

Divination is also my favourite, but close second is Evocation due to the insane magic missiles the lvl 10 perk gets you along with a couple of +dmg items.

[@CasualVeteranGamer]

It's safe to say that evocation wizards are very good at what they do!

[@izanagiuzumaki7325]

It's been crazy hard to make Gale anything but Divination. Exploring Enchantment just for the fun of it, but being able to just have a crit in my back pocket or a guaranteed fail on Hold Person is hard to beat. Free See Invisibility is nice too.

[@anto8375]

It's the strongest but it also trigger a lot of popup, I had to drop the subclass in a coop game for a support abjuration subclass. I still partially regret it after every video about divination wizard.

[@jonsummers3453]

Divination is my favorite wizard subclass in BG3. Always useful.

[@Andrius319]

i dont know if i would stomach constant reaction popups

[@oatkungar]

After I was able to potent dice my fireball to one shot a group of Minthara's ogre and goblin at the grove, Divination is the only school I pick for a wizard in any playthrough.

[@mejm8855]

I love the sound of divination wizard, but i really don't want to turn bg3 into a popup simulator.

[@CasualVeteranGamer]

You could turn it to just work automatically I think, but then you're losing some control of the dice! Each to their own though, it's understandable that you don't want a lot of popups.

[@billwumsen4108]

Dindnt even know about it, i thought there we're only two dice, so i prefered the lucky feat. But the Prophecy mechanic makes it work really well! Thank you!

[@CasualVeteranGamer]

Before the prophecies it is difficult to choose when to use them, but once we get the prophecies things change!

[@Exarch_Of_Justice]

Not to mention no reason to now get divination AND Lucky

[@billwumsen4108]

@@CasualVeteranGamer I finally finished my own build, what do you think about it? would love to maybe see you use it some day. Only if you want oc! Its off topicto this video, but since we talked about it under the bard Video, i thought i might share it with you. oK here you go^^ 8/16/16/10/14/10 Athletics and Perception 6 Fighter (Champion) ----------------------------------------- - More Crit (Dont worry about BM we have other Actions to hit) If you want BM Take Trip Attack, Precision Attack, Evasive Footwork) - Archery - All Armour types - Action Surge - 2 feats (Sharpshooter, ASI DEX->18) - Extra Attack - Second Wind 5 Bard (College of swords) -------------------------------------------- - Hand-Crossbows (we wont need melee weapons, but i use the +1 crit sword and the Stool leg that gives 19 strength) could even wear a shield - Two-Weapon Fighting - Flourish Ranged attack (1 Action= 2 Shots same or different target) Extra attack makes it 4, +Action Surge = 8 Bolts +Offhand Attack=9. Both synergize with short rest. - Font of Inspiration - 3rd Short rest through Song of Rest (each gives you all your Bardic inspiration and action surge back) (Act1 gives you Gloves with +1 BI) - Jack of All Trades - 1 Feat (ASI DEX 20) - Tons of utility spells and Rituals! 1 Warlock --------------------------------------------- - Hex for even more damage on each shot - The Great old for Fear on crits, Fiend for temporary HP - More Sellslots (not that we would need it thoug) - Hellish Rebuke - Even more Cantrips Equipment of your choice! + Crit Range is always nice (Shapeshifters Boon Ring and Risky Ring are awesome though!) (Coruscation Ring and Callous Glow Ring works too)

[@zat256away]

Playing as Gale, you dont need proficiency in Con Saving Throw (well, at least from mid game) because he gains that by erasing the mark in Balthazar hidden room in Moonrise Tower.

[@Nezxmi]

You can just respec a companion into a transmutation wizard and have them craft a transmuter’s stone. Make it a con prof stone and give it to whoever you want.

[@juliendrainville7131]

​@@NezxmiSmart. I use hirelings for that ;-)

[@kas1380]

I had this for a bit but once I long rested it was gone. Did yours stay after a sleep?

[@Vinicius-xm3cy]

Isn't that buff just a temporary one?

[@zat256away]

@@kas1380 I think it's a bug right now that the buff disappears. In the meantime, when any non-sorcerer casters reach about level 8 - 9, you could respec them to start with Fighter (so they all have Con Proficiency and having 2 levels in Fighter is good for pretty much all builds).

[@DemonOfMyMind]

Divination Gale was the MVP in a lot fights for my tactician run. Force enemies to fail their save against being slowed changed difficult enemies into as effective against me as goblins. 1 attack, 15 feet of movement, -2 ac and no reactions? Yeah, I'd like that debuff to happen every difficult combat!

[@-HustleUnion-]

thank you for not saying something stupid like "wizards are broken" or "wizards in this game are OP"

[@karllong]

I really enjoyed the divination wizard and had Gale specced into it on my first run. I have to say though I am really enjoying the Transmutation wizard which not many ppl talk about but with the quite limited potion ingredients I am loving getting double the potions. The transmutation stone is a cool feature that gives proficiencies and buffs that can be given to other chars. I have 18 int and 16 wis and proficiencies in medicine as it is a medicine check that lets you double the potions.

[@nineflames2863]

I have a hireling chilling out in my camp who's a Lore Bard/Transmutation Wizard with 20 Wisdom and expertise in Medicine. She's basically my dedicated alchemist lol.

[@nicholasperry2302]

Hot take, con save speccing is overrated on wizard. You get so many casts that con saves arent super important like it is on a warlock because you can recast easier. Also, you can spam shield/mirror image/ blur or something to not get hit in the first place. PLUS you can auto pass con saves with portant if needed. Lucky is the fun option and it also can be used to gain advantage on a con save. Alert is top tier on wizards tho, going first with those big spells and immunity to ambush is too good. Alert also fits divination cuz like, he saw you coming lol. Id even consider keeping int at 18 if you dont get hags hair just to get both lucky AND alert. 18 int is good enough when you have portant AND lucky plus spell save gear and a battlemage elixir

[@kurtcobane1762]

Been using a 10 div wizard with 2 tempest cleric (of mystra of course for gale) so you or shart can drop water, then hit 160 with a chain lightning that the enemy can't saving throw, absolute deletion of most enemies until lightning resistance says Hi of course, but then you've got your wizard spells as back ups way weaker than tempest sorc, but I like keeping default classes as a main on the companions

[@CasualVeteranGamer]

That's a good setup, the wet condition is so strong and all but guaranteeing max damage on chain lightning is amazing!

[@kurtcobane1762]

@@CasualVeteranGamer if I haste him (I run sorcadin mc with twin haste and a shadowheart cleric 11 wizard 1 with haste) you can do that 160 in 1 turn whilst also having armor on gale if you start tempest cleric makes Gale a complete monster

[@funkkymonkey6924]

This is a fun one to just have gale be, use all his portent die, then throw him away after the first big combat of the day.

[@jastermereel4946]

0:08 cloak go spinny

[@superkdude8D]

I am doing a bleed build for my mc and I think you convinced me on how to make my Gale

[@Makofueled]

Even things like bestow curse require concentration and get a save every freaking turn. Not so with divinations! When a div says you failed, you failed!

[@CasualVeteranGamer]

You failed!! That always feels the best to me actually.

[@zielj5131]

My main character is a diviner wizard love it. Wish i could replace dialogue rolls like in real dnd though.

[@Carblesnarky]

Halfling divination wizard with the lucky feat. It's so fun.

[@CasualVeteranGamer]

I've been meaning to make a build video with that exact setup!

[@michaelrowave]

I was just thinking that might be an excellent main character re-roll particularly since flying and burrowing w/ Reduce offset lower movement speed or height limit. Seems slightly less like turning game difficulty to Auto-play. I have made some choices I would not repeat and live with the lessons learned. Consequences, good or bad, are part of the fun playing new encounters and familiar ones may still have surprises so if your careful Turn-based stealth mission ended poorly just YOLO next load. Story-wise Halflings get the short end of the stick (at least thus far on Act 1) nd I would like to test Lucky feat for comparison.

[@SirCharles12357]

Bah! Now I'm going to have to try out Divination! Was playing with Necromancy, but microing lots of pets gets tedious and civilians don't like undead wandering around. Was planning on Illusion to gather the bad guys with a bonus action minor illusion (which I think is a cat . . . so maybe an improved effect???) to then AOE nuke them. So many possibilities!!!! Love this game!

[@ArchDaemon41]

use black hole from illithid

[@CasualVeteranGamer]

I would say it is annoying that people are scared of undead. While understandable, it really makes life more difficult!

[@nurgle333]

Just un attach the pets and leave them outside of town

[@mufasafalldown8401]

I'm in the exact same boat with Necromancy. It is SUCH a tedious class to play. Zombies take extra time to summon, buff, manage in combat... they scare civilians... they require undamaged corpses and need resummoned every long rest. Ends up feeling like morgue simulator. I would stick with the class but necro really needs some QoL adjustments.

[@kendannon4435]

I'm playing through as Gale Divination Wizard. It's pretty cool.

[@richardweems4517]

As always I love your content; so thank you. Might you recommend starting off in fighter? You would still gain sixth level spells. Fighters are also proficient in constitution saving throws

[@CasualVeteranGamer]

That's a very common way to build a character. You also get proficiency in all weapons and armour. In fact I recorded a video saying as much yesterday, but it stills needs to be edited.

[@brooksie9999999999]

Spells sold by vendors are complete random Lv 1 spells start to not be sold after lv 3 You can only buy them as spellscrolls at lv 1 and 2 Make sure to buy disguise self longstrider and farjump or else you will never get a chance to get the scrolls without a godroll on a vendors item rolls

[@nurgle333]

How do you select the variant of chromatic orb when you cast from the scroll?

[@CasualVeteranGamer]

I rarely get to a vendor before level 3 since the first vendor is in the grove! It's good to know, thanks.

[@Cyb3rM1nd]

This is partly wrong. Some vendors have had level 1 spells even with a level 4 character. The rate is reduced is all. Certain vendors are designed to have certain drops of certain items/spells by rarity to level and later vendors will have better stuff than earlier ones, even when same level. Some vendors are also geared more towards certain types of items. Also, Longstrider and Enhance Jump are not available as spell scrolls at any vendor, and never are, since they don't actually exist in the game.

[@brooksie9999999999]

​@@Cyb3rM1nd No its entirly rite but you triied to make it sound more technical considering i said "disguise self longstrider and farjump or else you will never get a chance to get the scrolls without a godroll on a vendors item rolls" All 3 Are available as scrolls and So are cantrips. You are actually able to learn cantrips from things E.g If you DONOT LEVEL UP AT ALL And go to the grove vendors AT LEVEL 1 They Will only have level 1 and 2 spellscrolls Level up 1 character to level 2 unlocking rare chance at lv 3 spellscroll DONOT TALK TO VENDOR WITH THAT CHARACTER The vendors items will stock based on the character level of the character that first speaks to the vendor So if you e,g Level up astatian to lv 2 But speak to the vendor with a level 1 laezel you will maintain the level 1 spells Through doing this my wizard knows 9 cantrips Which is where you will actually be shocked Bone chill, Shocking touch. Fire bolt Can all be bought from a lv 1 vendor and ive done so on multiple playrhgouhs Along with Also longstrider far jump and duisguise self Could be a bug Assuming its a bug Due to being able to learn the cantrips AS SPELLS and be able to cast them as cantrips at no cost to spellslot Nor a need to prepair them as prepaired spells They become learnt and put into the cantrip

[@brooksie9999999999]

@@Cyb3rM1nd Ray of frost is also learnable cantrip via spellscroll lol

[@Cyb3rM1nd]

Imagine this with the Lucky feat.

[@JosieJOK]

Hey, could you make a comparison between the different classes of wizards available in this game for us newbies? 😂

[@CasualVeteranGamer]

I certainly can! No promises as to how soon it'll be though.

[@billwumsen4108]

@CasualVeteranGamer finally finished my own build, what do you think about it? would love to maybe see you use it some day. Only if you want oc! Its off topicto this video, but since we talked about it under the bard Video, i thought i might share it with you. oK here you go^^ 8/16/16/10/14/10 Athletics and Perception 6 Fighter (Champion) ----------------------------------------- - More Crit (Dont worry about BM we have other Actions to hit) If you want BM Take Trip Attack, Precision Attack, Evasive Footwork) - Archery - All Armour types - Action Surge - 2 feats (Sharpshooter, ASI DEX->18) - Extra Attack - Second Wind 5 Bard (College of swords) -------------------------------------------- - Hand-Crossbows (we wont need melee weapons, but i use the +1 crit sword and the Stool leg that gives 19 strength) could even wear a shield - Two-Weapon Fighting - Flourish Ranged attack (1 Action= 2 Shots same or different target) Extra attack makes it 4, +Action Surge = 8 Bolts +Offhand Attack=9. Both synergize with short rest. - Font of Inspiration - 3rd Short rest through Song of Rest (each gives you all your Bardic inspiration and action surge back) (Act1 gives you Gloves with +1 BI) - Jack of All Trades - 1 Feat (ASI DEX 20) - Tons of utility spells and Rituals! 1 Warlock --------------------------------------------- - Hex for even more damage on each shot - The Great old for Fear on crits, Fiend for temporary HP - More Sellslots (not that we would need it thoug) - Hellish Rebuke - Even more Cantrips Equipment of your choice! + Crit Range is always nice (Shapeshifters Boon Ring and Risky Ring are awesome though!) (Coruscation Ring and Callous Glow Ring works too)

[@CasualVeteranGamer]

Looks good! It'll take some time for the video to get released since I already have other videos waiting to be released. The build in general is good, and I'll keep it as you've written. The only thing I would change myself is the warlock level since we don't really need those extra cantrips and we may as well use the hand crossbows instead of hex. Instead.....hmmmm.... One level of rogue gets us an extra 1d6 damage most turns anyway from sneak attack and an extra skill. Perhaps a cleric subclass, maybe light for warding flare, plus we can get guidance and the chance to prepare one or two cleric spells. Maybe even a sorcerer to get 4 cantrips and some ritual spells? I'll get to work on it when I can!

[@billwumsen4108]

oH WOW thank you! thats awesome! actually i got to the handcrossbow thing today too and decided to hex only because i got the heavy crossbow form the watchers factory. sneak attack works ok with the risky ring but only once per turn. hex does with every shot. also as im still using the +2 dex armor i cant get over 20 with ASI so i didnt take the feat but worked in a lvl of war domain which, as you know gives us 3 optional extra shots (even flourish attacks), wich is way better then the handcrossbow attack and boosted this thing to another level@@CasualVeteranGamer

[@billwumsen4108]

@@CasualVeteranGamer oh and as for the Ritual spells, it allready hast feather Fall, speak with animals, longstrider and other stuff i cant remember but i could fo a list If you want to. No Problem!

[@kcoppa]

Where are you at 4:15?? I have never see. That camp before.

[@politecat9207]

This camp is available if you get a room at the Elfsong Tavern

[@kcoppa]

@@politecat9207 COOL! THANKS!

[@Numdenu]

Unrelated to everything: what is that hood from? It looks great and I want it for my Baldurs Drip 3 game.

[@CasualVeteranGamer]

Hood of the weave, you can buy it in act 3, it is sold by Mystic Carrion, he is in a house near the water below Sorcerous Sundries

[@bretthughes27]

Have Gale as a Divination Wizard in my current (and first) playthrough, but hadn't thought about using Resilent: Constitution, so put his Wis. at 8 in order to get his Con. to 16, and Int. to 18 @ Lvl 4. Now will probably change at Lvl. 8.Still in Act 1, but wondering what the best equipment is in Act 2 & 3 for each of the classes..

[@CasualVeteranGamer]

I have been recording a guide to fighters today and included some items to find in each act. There are so many items, and some are for particular builds, so I found it difficult to know which ones to include! For spellcasters I would tend to keep and use any items that increases their spell save DC, or somehow gives them a way to gain arcane acuity, so that their spells are more likely to work.

[@mikaido100]

yasss i love divination wizzards as well!

[@Xfushion2]

I stuck with Evocation because of the sculpt spells feat, but next play through gonna try this. It looks both fun and broken

[@samshaw5014]

Does seem useful. Have you tried all the others? I know Evocation is standard, but how do the others play?

[@CasualVeteranGamer]

The others all have their uses. I am planning on making a video to try and compare all the wizard subclasses.

[@zackzebedi561]

Can you do abjuration cause I've heard there are some cool tank builds you can do with that.

[@CasualVeteranGamer]

I'll look into it. The general idea is to stack the arcane ward, which starts to get very effective at higher stack numbers. If you have 10 charges of it, it reduces damage done by 10, and then the number of charges goes down to 9. This process repeats itself until there are no charges left.

[@Cyb3rM1nd]

Build is basically Abjuration Wizard with a mix of either Dragon Sorc (White) or Warlock to get Armor of Agathys spell. Then whatever other mix/race to get armor prof for High AC. Tempest Cleric is a good choice because you get medium armor and shield plus a reaction that damages those that hit you, all for a single 1 level dip. Then it's just spamming Agathys and Fire Shield to max your ward repeatedly while enemies hurt themselves by attacking you.

[@fallentrash1673]

Will this still work greatly on party member gale since I have a Vengeance Paladin? Been thinking to do Divination because I've heard how crazily strong it is and im a beginner in TTRPG video games.

[@CasualVeteranGamer]

Divination wizards work well with every party because they make your party members hit more often, make more saving throws and the opposite for your enemies.

[@fallentrash1673]

@@CasualVeteranGamer ​ @CasualVeteranGamer Do you have any suggestions on what to put for Gale at level 3? I already have greese, longstrider, sleep, shield, mage armor, thunderwave, fog cloud, and witch bolt. I need an AoE spell tbh.

[@alfarabi73]

Would a dip in Divination Wizard just for a few Potent Dice make sense?

[@CasualVeteranGamer]

If you only go 2 levels in wizard you will only have 3 portent dice per long rest, which isn't a lot really. But you do gain some wizard spells which can come in useful. I would probably do it with other spellcasting classes so you can maintain your spell slot progression.

[@alfarabi73]

@@CasualVeteranGamer Got it - and thanks!

[@Echolaliaxu]

I think people are sleeping on Abjuration. The party literally takes minimal or no damage, almost always.

[@CasualVeteranGamer]

You're not the first to mention that so my next subclass video will be focused on abjuration I think.

[@maxzulu]

I don’t have a tank just abjuration wiz

[@brasswirebrush]

Definitely. it's kind of lackluster at low levels, but once you get into the higher levels with massive stacks of shielding, it's just a crazy amount of mitigation.

[@yanegorov6278]

Had an idea of having 4 lore bards/div wisards to make everyone missing their hits. Doesn't work well due to multi-attacks and long fights, but having one, or both bard and div.wis is quite useful

[@CasualVeteranGamer]

Sounds like a great idea and it should help with some of the frustration of missing.

[@Aurthorious]

What headpiece have you got on Gale? Loving that hood

[@flarrie3298]

Hood of the weave, you can buy it in act 3

[@Aurthorious]

@@flarrie3298 where do you buy it? I've completely missed it!!

[@politecat9207]

​@@Aurthorious I believe it is sold by Mystic Carrion, he is in a house near the water below Sorcerous Sundries

[@Aurthorious]

@@politecat9207 thank you cat, you are very polite

[@user-mu8ok5xf8d]

That cloak is nice what is it and where did you get it

[@CasualVeteranGamer]

It is the cloak of protection and can be bought from Quartermaster Talli at the last light inn.

[@user-mu8ok5xf8d]

@@CasualVeteranGamer I’ll grab that for my wizard run. I plan to try to make my tifling wizard I play with my dnd group. The only issue is his subclass isn’t in the game so I’ve been looking at options

[@orelyosif5852]

What is that unique illithid power you have?

[@osmannurimermer3809]

Why do we need Con Saving Throw exactly?

[@CasualVeteranGamer]

It increases your bonus when making concentration saving throws.

[@osmannurimermer3809]

@@CasualVeteranGamer yeah but why spesifically this build? Is it really worth it instead of an ASI?

[@CasualVeteranGamer]

I would argue that any spellcaster could use concentration saving throw proficiency because the control spells usually require concentration. Increasing intelligence will always be a very good choice of course and I would usually try to get my intelligence to 18 before taking a feat instead of an ASI.

[@Dan-3791]

What armor is that, I haven't seen this one at all?

[@owkttwilane5928]

wow, whats amazing armor wear on Gale, pls write names clothing

[@CasualVeteranGamer]

The robe is "robe of the weave", the hood is "Hood of the weave". They're both awesome items!

[@owkttwilane5928]

@@CasualVeteranGamer Thank you!

[@billy_romeo]

@@CasualVeteranGamer where can you get these items ?

[@rossdiggle]

OK. In bg3 they're better than illusionist 😂. Not tabletop though

[@SerDorZ12]

what armor is this?

[@CasualVeteranGamer]

It's called "Robe of the Weave" and is found in Ramazith's Tower.

[@XDaddyBender]

Ahhh yes while I love Baldursgate game play wise the story is linear and will always be linear. Multiple ends does not equal free will.

[@aren6164]

It's a cool subclass but the constant popup made it difficult to love for me lol !

[@00Mk000]

Yes, that's the only issue

[@CasualVeteranGamer]

Awwww, I can understand that.

[@robnoel9306]

You know they will change it.