Elixir Tierlist - Baldur's Gate 3
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@ThatBigGenie
@ThatBigGenie 5 сағат бұрын
Bro this video was so clumsy💀
@user-rw3gj3un5r
@user-rw3gj3un5r 6 сағат бұрын
Big lol. Play Act 3. If you say it's good, you're gaslighting, disingenuous or just a straight-up Larian fanboy.
@Lampaluile
@Lampaluile 16 сағат бұрын
Nature 6th? Come on sheep take
@kurtcobane1762
@kurtcobane1762 Күн бұрын
if we're talking pure classes oathbreaker is not the best but if we're talking padlock oathbreaker is one of the best Paladins weird like that haha great vid
@Wolferys
@Wolferys Күн бұрын
5 is a bit too low for the battlemaster multiclass score, its usually the class people go for when they multiclass with fighter unless they go throwing or crit heavy. You get most of the power of it at level 3
@soccercrazed13
@soccercrazed13 2 күн бұрын
oh man, no save after two trials. been there as well
@CasualVeteranGamer
@CasualVeteranGamer 2 күн бұрын
Thankfully the trials are pretty quick if you know how they work!
@kellieriley1302
@kellieriley1302 3 күн бұрын
Glad your oath didn't break during the Moonrise towers clean up operation! I would have felt somewhat bad for talking nonsense had it done so! 😆
@CasualVeteranGamer
@CasualVeteranGamer 3 күн бұрын
Thanks for letting me know about it in the first place, there's now way I would have tried it without your input. Even if it hadn't worked out then it would have been a learning opportunity anyway.
@joshalmighty1901
@joshalmighty1901 3 күн бұрын
Bro could you just tell us what you think we should take at lv2 lv3...
@Ulfhednir9
@Ulfhednir9 3 күн бұрын
make a deugar then can enlarge self. Also dwarf thrower :D
@TheEstafista
@TheEstafista 4 күн бұрын
My first ever playtrough was Rogue. Pure rogue. And it was fun in Act 1. In Act 2 I started having problems and having to reload quite a bit. Act 3 was the place where I stopped. My rogue just kept getting pomeled over and over again. And it wasn't fun. My advice would be to avoid rogue for first playtrough. If you don't multiclass (I didin't, mainly because I didin't knew how to) it becomes so booring after a while. You attack, move away, hide, end your turn. That's pretty much most of the rogues turns. I still haven't finished that playtrough just because I missed to many side quests and my rogue is just so weak. On the other hand for my second playtrough I'm playing as sorc. And it's just so amazing compared to rogue! Ofc now I know what I'm doing to begin with so that plays a big part on the fun factor, but still it is way more fun then rogue IMO.
@menace6707
@menace6707 4 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for these videos, they are honestly the most useful out all that i've seen! They helped me so much in a lot of these fights.
@CasualVeteranGamer
@CasualVeteranGamer 4 күн бұрын
Thank you for the kind comment and I'm happy to have been helpful for you.
@benjaminjam666
@benjaminjam666 5 күн бұрын
Best Multiclass class.
@lawrencefosterjenkins8216
@lawrencefosterjenkins8216 5 күн бұрын
thief feels like the most consistent of the subclasses, but assassin is the most powerful in the earlier levels. if i insist on monoclassing rogue (which i only do for challenge purposes) i start out as an assassin and switch to thief as soon as I can get hold of the gloves of balanced hands so i can have up to three decent attacks per turn
@cadesummers5866
@cadesummers5866 6 күн бұрын
The only thing that really stands out about way of the four elements is the spells * CAN * be cast while raging as a barbarian. Still though finding the right split and time to cast spells vs initiate a rage is a difficult task as well
@user-ho5jq6rz2g
@user-ho5jq6rz2g 6 күн бұрын
Arcane Trickster is an S-tier subclass for pickpocketing.
@coldwetn0se172
@coldwetn0se172 6 күн бұрын
With all my many play throughs, I almost always multiclass Astarion (except for my very first full run of the game - kept everyone with their default classes and subclasses where applicable). However, on my newest run, I have decided to mono-class Astarion again (Thief Rogue), and take advantage of the extra feat. Setting him up for duel wielder and medium armor. This run isn't about using the best build, but more just doing something I haven't done in a long while. As always, thank you for the content! :)
@CasualVeteranGamer
@CasualVeteranGamer 5 күн бұрын
4 feats is one of the biggest benefits of pure rogues in my opinion, which can allow us to try some different things. Dual wielding is one way to take advantage of the extra bonus action so I imagine it worked out alright!
@Wolferys
@Wolferys 6 күн бұрын
If you wanna be a gish rogue it will be better to just mix it with swords bard, you get a lot more spells and the extra attack/flourishes will really bump up your damage. And you get an extra expertise and dialogue as well
@CasualVeteranGamer
@CasualVeteranGamer 6 күн бұрын
Yeah, there's little that rogues can offer that a swords bard cannot. Then again, swords bards are probably one of the strongest subclasses in the game anyway.
@Wolferys
@Wolferys 6 күн бұрын
@@CasualVeteranGamer 9 swords bard 3 thief rogue could have some insane cc with the band of the mystic scoundrel, you could attack 4 times then cast 2 cc spells on your bonus action, with them boosted by arcane acuity as well. While a pure arcane trickster would do 1 attack and 1 weak 2nd level spell in a turn..
@davidwagner3710
@davidwagner3710 6 күн бұрын
ahh yes the red headed step child of classes
@oatkungar
@oatkungar 6 күн бұрын
After I was able to potent dice my fireball to one shot a group of Minthara's ogre and goblin at the grove, Divination is the only school I pick for a wizard in any playthrough.
@SirCharles12357
@SirCharles12357 6 күн бұрын
Totally agree with your assessment. I love to take 3 (or 4 for the feat) levels in Thief for the additional bonus action especially for Barbarian Bezerker and Monk who can effectively use the bonus action in combat.
@CasualVeteranGamer
@CasualVeteranGamer 6 күн бұрын
It's a shame that rogues are such a great 3/4 level dip, but on the whole don't offer as much as most other classes when monoclassed.
@liberalideas8224
@liberalideas8224 6 күн бұрын
Arcane trickster has always bugged me in both 5e and in BG3 for the same two reasons really, though 5e a bit less so. For one, although spells can also be very defensive or highly damaging, the the Arcane Trickster restrictions forcing them to be focused on low level, utility spells prevent them from taking advantage of this really. Then on top of that, giving the highest utility martial class access to a few spells only for utility is...well, redundant. The one thing Arcane Trickster gets in 5e that it doesn't in bg3 is the ability to use certain magical items and magical scrolls that they otherwise wouldn't be able to use. Is that worth a whole subclass though?
@CasualVeteranGamer
@CasualVeteranGamer 6 күн бұрын
I can see your point there. Also if we're using spells that cost an action it means that can't even get sneak attack, unless we use a hand crossbow with a bonus action I guess? I figure their niche in bg3 is scroll casting after level 9, but the thing is arcane acuity builds don't even need to give enemies disadvantage for their spells to land.
@kingsuperbus4617
@kingsuperbus4617 8 күн бұрын
heavy armor on a ranger? yuck
@ProbeAway
@ProbeAway 9 күн бұрын
I love your rating system overall, but I feel like maybe it does land Druids a bit dirty! Their big drawcard is the extra circle spells and unfortunately that’s only contributing to one criteria. The other abilities are really just intended to be supplementary to those spells. Contrast that with moon Druids, who have their various wild shapes contributing to several criteria. Druid subclasses I think are really tough to rate because their features are geared towards different playstyles. It makes for a very subjective ranking! I would personally go moon>land>spores because I’m not as interested in a summoning class (and that knee slapping animation is so lame 😂) but that’s purely preference
@CasualVeteranGamer
@CasualVeteranGamer 8 күн бұрын
I must admit that I find it difficult to find a good system, and in light of that I've tried to stick to the same system with each class rather than have it change each video! I also like the fact that land druids get those extra spells known. I would also admit that as much as I am trying to give numerical values to each subclass, at the end of the day all of these videos will include my own subjective opinions. I hadn't though too much about it before, but now that you've mentioned the knee slapping animation I do find it a bit funny!
@nicolascornejo7753
@nicolascornejo7753 9 күн бұрын
1 detail you missed about beastmaster is that you can feed elixirs to your pets...strength, colossus, you name it (dire raven scale of dex tho) and that early game (even late game I guess) is HUGE.
@CasualVeteranGamer
@CasualVeteranGamer 8 күн бұрын
Thanks for mentioning that as it's not something I've often done!
@Wolferys
@Wolferys 10 күн бұрын
Feels like Hunter is only good for Minsc since you get him later on in act 3 where you can use the volley. For a tav there are better archery builds like the swords bard, the gloomstalker or even straight fighter
@ProbeAway
@ProbeAway 9 күн бұрын
The best way to play a Hunter is to play as something better for levels 1-10, then respec at level 11.
@ProbeAway
@ProbeAway 10 күн бұрын
I might have missed it, but I don’t think you mentioned that Gloom Stalker gets the misty step and fear spells for free. While might not change the rankings they are both great spells
@CasualVeteranGamer
@CasualVeteranGamer 10 күн бұрын
Yeah, that came under the "other bonuses" section of the rating. Nice spells for sure, especially misty step, but not exactly build defining either!
@ProbeAway
@ProbeAway 9 күн бұрын
@@CasualVeteranGamer lol I should have watched a bit further into the Beast Master section!
@CasualVeteranGamer
@CasualVeteranGamer 9 күн бұрын
Well, it wasn't helpful that I talked about it in the wrong part of the video, sorry!
@cadesummers5866
@cadesummers5866 11 күн бұрын
Tiger Heart on a run where you gained BOOALS benediction can be insane, spreading bleeding heavily and gaining advantage on all those affected
@Deathelement53
@Deathelement53 11 күн бұрын
Eldritch knight will always be better than battlemaster to me for one reason. Movement. If battlemaster has even one turn of not hitting then a EK will out damage it massively. EK will never have to waste turns not attacking because of all its movement spells let alone the defensive kit. Even if you account for items the EK or gish items are so strong yes you can put misty step on a BM with the boots but there are much better boots that a EK can use. Both are still hyper strong classes tho
@user-cs7dg7sl8e
@user-cs7dg7sl8e 12 күн бұрын
besides 11 lvl any hunter or beastmaster is useless, but you can't pick action surge which is necessary for any attacker, in the end there are no options other than 3/5 gloomstalker, sad but true
@KudzuHaiku
@KudzuHaiku 12 күн бұрын
With the Beast Master, you can make a good face character with high charisma and even a few useful skills. You could be something like a gnome, but since you are kind of tiny and maybe not so good in combat, nature has sent you some protectors. It is possible to get decent charisma, constitution, and dexterity, along with a bit of wisdom. The Gloves of Dexterity exist, along with other stat items. Plus, you can make the animal companions drink potions, which is, frankly, in my opinion, overpowered. Bearoids.
@CasualVeteranGamer
@CasualVeteranGamer 10 күн бұрын
Although it's not perhaps nature loving, I do like the idea that we can create a bear, or raven for that matter, on steroids!
@liberalideas8224
@liberalideas8224 12 күн бұрын
That spin to win plus a weapon that heals on hit is so very good though :)
@CasualVeteranGamer
@CasualVeteranGamer 10 күн бұрын
That's a good weapon to use for sure!
@davidwagner3710
@davidwagner3710 12 күн бұрын
I have always enjoyed the beast master. All of the utilty you get is so useful.
@awholemewworld4799
@awholemewworld4799 12 күн бұрын
Loved hunter ranger since I did a playthrough as one, but it definitely doesn't get great until level 11 which is the downside, as you said. The other 2 subclasses are good too, but hunter really grew on me. Great vid! Love hearing your opinion on these things.
@CasualVeteranGamer
@CasualVeteranGamer 10 күн бұрын
Thanks! The hunter ranger was always my favourite during early access, but it's a shame that there are a fair few levels of not receiving very much.
@SirCharles12357
@SirCharles12357 12 күн бұрын
I never level the hunter; I just respec into it at 11. The Volley attack does not affect friendlies so it's like an Evocation Wizard and it is amazing with items like the Snow Burst Ring and other Condition provoking items. Lol I had no idea that you could stack your Beastmaster summons!! Wow, with Hero's Feast and Aid and . . . amazing! Also, Beastmaster with the Eversight Ring and huge fields of Raven darkness is awesome!
@CasualVeteranGamer
@CasualVeteranGamer 12 күн бұрын
I think that's the best way to play a hunter ranger sadly, just respec into it at level 11! Of course, the downside to stacking those few beastmaster summons is that we use up short rests very quickly, however the clever use of a few hireling bards can overcome that if needed/wanted.
@user-wv8yk3xu4h
@user-wv8yk3xu4h 12 күн бұрын
Great video, as always. One thing I'd like clarified, though. Are we rating all these classes, subclasses and specific abilities based on how they perform in a blind first playthrough, or in an optimized playthrough where you pretty much already know what to expect? Because there's a huge difference.
@CasualVeteranGamer
@CasualVeteranGamer 12 күн бұрын
These ratings aren't exactly made for either of those. I haven't taken feats and items into account for the most part, although I have mentioned some of the strongest combinations such as tavern brawler, hat of arcane acuity, and the band of mystic scoundrel for a few of the classes. This is because a few items/feats would dominate most of these videos, and I don't want to assume that everyone will always be using particular items/feats. I'd also argue that some of these videos do rely on people know which are generally the stronger and weaker spells though, as several subclasses get different spells. I know that isn't a clear and simple answer, but the hope is to inform everyone of the abilities the subclasses get within each class.
@user-wv8yk3xu4h
@user-wv8yk3xu4h 12 күн бұрын
@@CasualVeteranGamer Understandable. thanks for the well thought our answer. I wasn't referring to items either, that would make these ratings a whole different thing, just base subclass viability. Just how the base subclass with, say, only enchanted weapons and armor, would fare on a blind run, versus a run where you know the encounters.
@CasualVeteranGamer
@CasualVeteranGamer 12 күн бұрын
I would say that my bias would make it so that these are made with knowledge of what encounters are in the game. There are times in some videos where I mention say, immunity to being charmed, and how there are so few times where we are actually charmed that it's not a good ability to have.
@SVS304
@SVS304 12 күн бұрын
Hunter ranger is not bad with one level of a war cleric, because of war priest charges, but it'll be such a late multi class
@CasualVeteranGamer
@CasualVeteranGamer 12 күн бұрын
It's a great multiclass for sure, probably the strongest for the hunter.
@Wolferys
@Wolferys 14 күн бұрын
1 advantage of Vengeance is that it's easy to keep and less restrictive compared to Ancients/Devotion that require you to be a mostly good character. As for oathbreaker it has the very annoying thing where you need to retake your oath before you respec then go and break it again
@CasualVeteranGamer
@CasualVeteranGamer 13 күн бұрын
I dislike not being able to respec as an oathbreaker. I'm sure it's done so that we can't get our previous oath back for 100 gold, but nevertheless it's still a bit annoying!
@jonlundy797
@jonlundy797 14 күн бұрын
You always make this game look really easy lol. I just started a new game after a few months away. You give me new ideas for different scenarios. Keep up the good work.
@CasualVeteranGamer
@CasualVeteranGamer 13 күн бұрын
Thank you for your kind words and I'm happy that you've been able to get some inspiration!
@blacknyellow962
@blacknyellow962 15 күн бұрын
*Note* This seems to be a bug or exploit and might be fixed later on. Gale is the perfect camp caster, making him a life cleric and using that spell list (including warding bond) makes your party extremely difficult to kill. You can even give him the ritual caster feat and take longstrider/enhance leap if you want. And you don't even have to rest to restore his spell slots here's how: Step 1: Select Gale, and cast all of your desired buffs on your party members (at least one needs warding bond cast on them). Then remove Gale from your party. Step 2: Punch (or otherwise damage) the party member who you cast warding bond on - This will cause Gale, while out of your party, to take damage BUT he heals back to full AND restores all spell slots (up to level 5) Repeat as many times as needed to super buff your entire party.
@lisandrohilbe7506
@lisandrohilbe7506 15 күн бұрын
In the fight against Oran, in many videos I see that the victim is Yenna, in my first game, second in strategist and now in honor mode recently, he always captures Lae'zel How does that happen?
@lisandrohilbe7506
@lisandrohilbe7506 15 күн бұрын
I see your video and your characters have many characteristics next to the image Hopefully in my game you only see the ritual of talking to animals how do you do that? How do you get so many features? potions, or choices that give you a buff in the game? and that you take half the life of a demon with an arrow, my god
@InnocentLock-er6et
@InnocentLock-er6et 15 күн бұрын
One problem with oath breaker that justifies its lower ranking is that no undead you summon have MELEE weapons, and aura of hate only works on fiends and undead MELEE weapon attacks. Pretty much means the only summon that benefits from this is the Cambion…
@CasualVeteranGamer
@CasualVeteranGamer 15 күн бұрын
Ah yes, that's true, I didn't realise the melee weapons part when I made the video. I suppose if an oathbreaker controlled an undead with a melee weapon then it would also work, but I doubt that will happen very often!
@fin3662
@fin3662 15 күн бұрын
Rating fire bolt as good as eldritch blast and guidance is absolutely diabolical ray of frost and bone chill both have amazing secondary effects and you’re sacrificing 3 average damage at level 10 which is… just who cares? Also they apply conditions meaning they work with items like the boots of stormy clamour, ironically making them better for damage.
@CasualVeteranGamer
@CasualVeteranGamer 15 күн бұрын
Diabolical, there's a good word! Yeah, you're not the first person to mention that, and I did make a mistake. I do however like having fire at hand for exploring and setting things on fire when needed. If I was to do it again I would put ray of frost higher for sure. Aside from a few fights I don't find I *need* the secondary effect of bone chill, but I do appreciate it's usefulness.
@liberalideas8224
@liberalideas8224 15 күн бұрын
I know people are a bit concerned with how paladins have rules to how they behave, but they are fair less severe in BG3 than in 5e and they really aren't that difficult to follow unless you are trying to min/max your way through the game. Devotion=Help people, show mercy Ancients=Help animals, show mercy Vengence=Help people, show no mercy Oathbreaker=laugh in future BBEGs voice
@CasualVeteranGamer
@CasualVeteranGamer 15 күн бұрын
My problem when using paladins is that there are times where attacking neutral NPCs is what I want to do, and that breaks most oaths! Although knocking enemies out can get around that. I rarely break my oath from the wrong choice in dialogue thankfully.
@Khantia
@Khantia 15 күн бұрын
I tend to not play Powerdin, because I'm limited in my in-world choices. I can't play as I want, without breaking my oath.
@CasualVeteranGamer
@CasualVeteranGamer 15 күн бұрын
Yeah, Paladins are limited in that regard compared to all the other classes
@bboy000888
@bboy000888 15 күн бұрын
wizard next plz
@CasualVeteranGamer
@CasualVeteranGamer 15 күн бұрын
Sorry to say that wizard will be last since I am doing these in alphabetical order.
@SirCharles12357
@SirCharles12357 15 күн бұрын
One day I'm going to play a paladin to level 12, but smite is SOOoo powerful I can't ever resist multiclassing to gain more spell slots. Maybe a 4 paladin party would be interesting challenge.
@CasualVeteranGamer
@CasualVeteranGamer 15 күн бұрын
Yeah, what's stronger than a smite? More smites!! It's indicative of a wider problem that many martial classes don't get a lot of great stuff at the higher levels sadly.
@Tentacl
@Tentacl 15 күн бұрын
I completely agree. Ancients and Vengeance are both S tier, amazing for multiclass and so diferent they just can't compete against each other. My favorite healer in the game is a heal itemized, ancients pally 6/ life cleric 6 multiclass. It's actually overkill, so most often I don't even use life cleric but other subclass with more offensive capabilities like light or tempest Disciple of light, blessed healer, preserve life, healing radiance, all in a DEX based pally to use the very good ranged Ensnaring Strike and ke able to always be in the middle of your party for those sweet AoE heals that also give resistance to Bludgeoning, Piercing and Slashing damage dealt by weapon attacks while equiping the very early acquired Hellrider's Pride.
@CasualVeteranGamer
@CasualVeteranGamer 15 күн бұрын
That healing build sounds awesome! Being able to dish out damage with smites and also support the party when needed is great, plus the various healing spells/skills that use a bonus action make it so versatile.
@ThisFuckingGuy
@ThisFuckingGuy 16 күн бұрын
I love to put it on karlack, and cast haste on her pretty much ensuring 4d6 healing per turn and never going mad
@nainhernandez483
@nainhernandez483 17 күн бұрын
What happen after we kill him did he still show to the camp of you break the paladins again?
@CasualVeteranGamer
@CasualVeteranGamer 16 күн бұрын
He will not come back!