Why I'm backing Reform on the NHS - cancer expert Karol Sikora | SpectatorTV

[@laravonstaden1838]

I cannot, in any good conscience, bring myself to vote for a party which is “Conservative “ in name only. My vote goes to Reform.

[@scepteredisle]

Reform will NEVER gain power because they simply do not appeal to swing voter centrists (33% of voters) who would never touch a hard-right party like Reform for obvious reasons. People need to be adult about this and accept reality. The right wing voter is OUTNUMBERED by the left wing vote. Look it up. Right-wingers ONLY win elections when they UNITE and draw in most of that 33% swing voter moderates. Reform cannot win. Voting Reform is VOTING FOR STARMER. That's just the reality.

[@bimfred]

Doubling down are we? Smart.

[@Fortunecookie24]

I have already posted my Reform vote along with my husband. They are our only hope.

[@dellawrence4323]

Likewise, done it today, current Labour MP packing his bag as I type.

[@wendyholland2339]

Thankyou you are patriots

[@wendyholland2339]

To all faiths weve done it before in the 60s 70s 80s 90s then it started to change let's live like we did we can't let 400,000 people spoil what we have anymore time people to stand as one again REFORM IS OUR ONLY CHANCE IT MUST BE YOURS AS WELL WE ARE THE PATRIOTS THANKYOU

[@scepteredisle]

VOTE REFORM? Enough of the lies and games. This is serious. Labour are coming and they're gonna make us SUFFER. Reform will NEVER gain power because they simply do not appeal to swing voter centrists (33% of voters) who would never touch a hard-right party like Reform for obvious reasons. People need to be adult about this and accept reality. The right wing voter is OUTNUMBERED by the left wing vote. Look it up. Right-wingers ONLY win elections when they UNITE and draw in most of that 33% swing voter moderates. Reform cannot win. Voting Reform is VOTING FOR STARMER. That's just the reality.

[@RichardEnglander]

I did mine today. In pen.... #ReformUK #ZeroSeats

[@LordWalsallian]

I’ve been a nurse in the NHS for 16 years, i’ve seen it failing for my entire career and every year that has gone by it has gotten worse. We need someone to completely tear down the NHS and rebuild it…not tinker around the edge every 5 years, throwing money at a wasteful, toxic organisation. I love my job, but i won’t be able to do it much longer if things don’t change because i can’t look after my patients the way they deserve to be. (I’m a District Nurse). I give 5hrs unpaid overtime a week that i’m not allowed to be paid for. All i get is “you aren’t managing your time properly”

[@lorraineh3889]

I’m sure you’re doing amazing job and your patients adore you. Don’t leave

[@LordWalsallian]

@@lorraineh3889 That’s really kind of you, thank you. I try. I love my patients, i love seeing them in their own environments, helping them get better. I love getting to know them as people, treating them holistically rather than “task nursing”. But caseload numbers, chronic staffing shortages and poor management decisions and equipment make it so difficult. The stress it causes me at times effects my whole life. People don’t realise this when they criticise NHS Staff. They think we have more power than we actually do. We’re the equivalent of check out assistants in Tesco. We have no control over anything the NHS says, does or implements via managers who have never done the job or have not clinically practiced in years. It’s very demoralising. I myself have waited 6 months for a Rheumatology appointment on the NHS too…NHS Staff understand what patients are going through, we’re patients at times as well.

[@julieholdcroftbetty8520]

There won't be an NHS under Farage. He wants an American style health system

[@wendyrowland7787]

Thank you for your stoicism and care. Nurses used to be appreciated back in the day.

[@jumblestiltskin1365]

Same here. I also work in the behemoth of stupidity which is the NHS. I've had some commente with you before today also. Nice to see you here also.

[@ellie698]

First step, stop wasting money on the DEI grift

[@liahurst8575]

and painting rainbow crossings in the car parks

[@johncoppinger3208]

Karol was a shining light during Covid 🔥🔥

[@maxcream6726]

VOTE REFORM

[@inesgauter7575]

Reform only 👍

[@michelespong5481]

It would help if Kate had noted that Reform have repeatedly said there would be an exemption on the net zero immigration policy for NHS and care staff.

[@PointNemo9]

She's American.... What else should be expected

[@McElvisss]

I am voting Reform, the only party offering real change on anything. Some constructive criticism for Kate Andrews: try and make some of your questions more concise.

[@peterdockerty8077]

For many years I enjoyed reading and listening to some brilliant conservative journalists. Iain Dale, Iain Martin, Tim Montgomery and Fraser Nelson. But for some unknown reason all that changed around 2019. The same thing happened with Andrew Neil a man I grew up watching, listening to and reading. With Mr Neil he went on about Boris who was a former employee and on top of that Mr Neil turned into a moan, whiny anti GB News critic. But back to the others, all of them hated Boris so were huge Boris critics, even though he had a massive 85 seat majority, they criticised him constantly, it was sheer hatred. Between them they had joined the anti tory bandwagon that our legacy media loved. In the end an insurrection within the tory party saw the demise of Boris, they quickly turned on Truss. Even though much of what Truss wanted to do has since been proved to be the right thing to do, and indeed the BoE proved to be the main issue and at fault for our stumbling economy. This didn’t seem to matter as these doyens of conservatism aimed their guns at Truss, a PM the party members voted for in huge numbers. So thanks very much you so-called conservative voices, you actually moved from conservatism to one nation/libdemism You were a huge part of the reason the Conservative Party I Has died, well done and I know you all hate Farage and Reform, but maybe if you had backed conservative voices who were drowned out when telling you what was about to happen. Priti Patel, Braverman, Jenrick, Kruger, Cates and JRM your party would still be in power. Shame on you all

[@markhutton6055]

Globalists against non-Globalists.

[@lorraineh3889]

Agree they have been brought down. Boris won the mandate but his haters used him eating cake to overthrow him. This will go down in history as a miscarriage of justice, disloyalty by his colleagues and misuse of power by the media.

[@schofield4836]

Boris sacked all the true conservatives out of his cabinet and turned it into labour.

[@tom5216]

I’d happily pay £10 if I could get a quick appointment with my GP.

[@schofield4836]

Me too! I’d pay £50, I can afford it

[@GreenMorningDragonProductions]

GPs are soooooooooooooooooooooo 20th century. Imagine you've got say a weird, flaky rash on your arm. In GB, first you have to wait for a GP appointment. Then, when you finally get seen, it might be too tricky for the GP to diagnose and treat, so they refer you to a dermalogist. MORE waiting. I'm sure you know this, but in many countries which also have national insurance, you can use that insurance to walk straight into a dermatology clinic, on the day, with no appointment. This is one of the many, many ways that the NHS needs reforming.

[@Tommyshark5]

This sounds good but it is an additional Tax in all but name and once it is implemented it is the end the cost will be open to increases today £10 tomorrow it is £100 no stopping in it, no not for me. it must remain in the hands of the state.

[@tom5216]

You’re right. That could be a problem. A charge might stop those who waste doctor’s time by no shows and those who are social visitors who turn up every week though.

[@paula-pw7yd]

@@GreenMorningDragonProductions I completely agree

[@Isla2715]

Reform also saying if you stay working Within the NHS for 10 years then your student dept gets written off.

[@rw9854]

The fact we need immigrants in the nhs is in of itself a problem! We have to incentivise our own population to work in important jobs. At the moment they don’t want to because the wages are too low because there is always someone from abroad who will come and work for less. Shut the border, incentivise young young people to work in healthcare (tax breaks like reform are a start) and let the market take effect. We might have short term shortages but if it means long term having British citizens treating and looking after other British citizens then that’s great. Old, ill and vulnerable people shouldn’t be relying on people from abroad. It’s shame on us as a country

[@rw9854]

@NigelBlancmange what?

[@schofield4836]

Both my kids are doctors and both buggered off to Australia for a better standard of living, sunshine and decent pay with shorter hours and took their professional spouses with them too. We are losing all our qualified.

[@pizzamad3334]

Don't blame them. I want to leave as a tradesman, too many barber shops, takeaways, car washers. Taxi drivers. This ain't British.

[@schofield4836]

@@pizzamad3334 took a friend to the hospital today. No indigenous british staff there, mostly foreign men jumping and mucking around laughing and double kicking doors, while wheeling fragile old people around in beds. Was horrible

[@pizzamad3334]

@@schofield4836 I can only imagine.

[@pizzamad3334]

@@schofield4836 look up private health care, it's not that expensive. I pay £40 a month

[@schofield4836]

@@juliecarne7706 it’s the entire standard of living which is better elsewhere. Junior doctors on £15 an hour here. There should be a contract of at least five years employment in this country if their training is paid for by our country.

[@japfourme381]

Vote REFORM the only Party to offer the voter “People Policies”!!

[@windsong2875]

Thank you for talking about policy intelligently instead of emotionally!

[@tom5216]

We are screaming out for doctors yet we have a cap on the number of doctors we train. We have thousands of foreign medical students being trained here. If capacity in universities is the problem then we should up the capacity or reduce the number of foreign students. As foreign students are probably profitable upping the capacity would seem the logical way to go.

[@Grassyfieldsflowers]

Why even is there a cap it’s plain stupid, oh that’s right let’s cap the very thing we currently don’t have enough of.

[@souxcasa]

As long as the health service is in shambles the benefits system will be under pressure. Fix health care and you start to save in other places too

[@andrewhotston983]

Karol Sikora is wiser than ANY UK politician.

[@pilatesrebalance]

We have to invest in the UK population and make it easier to get into medicine and health care

[@Benwheatleys]

Interesting to get this inside perspective

[@colinmacdonald1939]

Great chat, we need Reform that is for sure.

[@Jasna-zd2zl]

The NHS gives a very low salary to its IT staff compared with industry - but has always got money to give to DEI staff. It needs to concentrate on essentials

[@fionnolamorris94]

Reform UK does not have a cap on immigration for health and social care.

[@pizzamad3334]

All in good time

[@CarmenBhagania]

REFORM WILL ..STOP..BOATS & 1 IN 1 OUT POLICY BUT THERE WILL BE NO IMMIGRATION UNTIL NUMBERS ARE RIGHT DIWN ,LABOUR INTENDS TO BRINGS MANY MORE IN REPORTS SAY THERE WAITING IN CALAIS FOR LABOUR POWER & THEY WILL FLOOD IN FREELY NO NEED FOR BOATS JUST A FLOOD BY ANY MEANS

[@fionnolamorris94]

I experienced the German health system as a student for a minor ailment and a dental check-up. It covered 85% of the cost and was extremely fast and well-equipped; spare beds on wards to allow for outbreaks. No idea if that has since changed due to open borders and mass influx.

[@FraserBailey-jm5yz]

Germany, like the Netherlands, operates a system under which everyone is compelled to have private health insurance. As a student this might not have applied to you.

[@jamesvdv0]

What Kate Andrews fails to mention is that net zero spending madness is not present in Reform's "contract" and this gives a significant amount of financial wiggle room that Labour and Conservative have committed not to have.

[@Jh1986-g6k]

Appreciate the argument made about needing overseas staff for the NHS to run. Its does now, but in reflection such high and continuos immigration to the UK played a big part in that. And without dealing with it, so brings many thousands more potential patients in the future.

[@tonyalways7174]

The NHS is used as a political token by both Labour and the Tories but neither party really gives a toss about it until it comes to election time.

[@mrobo9037]

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[@ogukuo97]

Let's stop pretending that shovelling more money into the NHS will make things better. It's not about the money spent. It is about the way it is structured and the way it is run. As it is, there simply isn't any reason for its bureaucrats to care about delivering good services at a reasonable speed and cost.

[@carolegill2456]

GIVE THEM THE CHANCE. VOTTE REFORM TO SAVE OUR COUNTRY AND OUR LIVES

[@bettymartin3769]

Apologies for another post!! We've recently had an 86 year old lady with late stage dementia a total knee replacement. Why? This is not fair on anyone involved. Obesity also a major issue. Having to pay and man ambulance specifically for obese patients (allowing for larger sized individuals with a greater weight exertion on equipment). Bariatric beds (beds for clinically obese patients who would exceed the 'normal' weight limits) are currently hired in for £1200 per day per patient. It's absolutely mind blowing!!!

[@robkeeleycomposer]

Good man Dr Sikora.

[@michaelbrett171]

Got my postal vote, x against reform ,sent it off.

[@cloudycloud824]

I was agreeing with him till he started saying potential restrictions on old people’s healthcare. They have payed in should we limit children’s access to care because they don’t pay??? A sign of a successful society is how we care for the most vulnerable

[@reneroo277]

I think a good point is being made about public services full stop. It is a horrible sector to be in. You're not even appreciated, let alone loved. It is absolutely a thankless task. My grandfather said that very thing to me when I decided to train for a job in the sector. He was correct. That's why I'm about to leave 😬.

[@aja4191]

Look at the interviewer's face when he said he was endorsing Reform. Nearly tears from then onwards. Wow.

[@williammcmillan9344]

Vote reform

[@tomostinato2918]

Excellent interview.

[@cyclist68]

67% of GPs are female. 80% of female GPs work part time Of GPs that retire early or leave the industry, men go at 56 women go at 38. These are life style choices and nothing wrong with that, but the government make no allowances for the different work life choices mem snd women make. How about encouraging more male GPs or even a moratorium on women for a few years.

[@celiacresswell6909]

Can’t do that: patriarchy!

[@FraserBailey-jm5yz]

The key phrase here was 'You don't need to use money'. Exactly. There is plenty of money in the system. The problem lies in the mindset of those within the system, especially those who run the system. This applies to all areas of public life and most large corporations.

[@jeniferdunn4670]

Do away with GPs, have domiciliary staff that work for the hospital, for the elderly, disabled and young children. Keep it all under one roof. Streamline referrals etc.

[@richardw7959]

Voting R E F O R M!

[@lindsayharding6907]

The NHS needs reform, but we as recipients of the NHS to take ownership of our own health and not become patients wherever possible. That would be the 2 to Reform's power punch

[@mindyourownbastardbu]

The secret is to train and educate your health care assistants, even the highest level surgeon had a first day in the hospital. There is not much difference between us at the beginning, it's all down to education and mindset really.

[@michelespong5481]

It appears Kate hasn't actually read the Reform contract. There is a lot on how to pay for the policies.

[@swausgebouwen143]

I think a huge thing that the MSM has missed is that reform will increase the National insurance contributions for immigrant workers - this will get a significant amount more income

[@christopherbrookfield4785]

I would like to see Kate Andrews wearing a nurses uniform. She could get me to take my medicine! 🎉

[@DanielEarlester]

Another person with sense.

[@paulmetcalfe4054]

Why do journalists make statements about issues they clearly have not researched. Reform have said several times that the migration restrictions DO NOT apply to healthcare workers.

[@yeahna9989]

Yeah reform first idea was Brexit which we can all agree has been a resounding success. Let’s vote them in for more of that….

[@michelespong5481]

It would have succeeded if the civil service didn't consistently throw a spanner in the works.

[@samlee3039]

​@@michelespong5481 Yep, not like people had warned what is happening now would happen.

[@tebitt]

Spot on Karol.

[@scottwhat3362]

Immigrants = magical creatures that only add to the supply but not the demand. 🙄

[@jumblestiltskin1365]

Karol i work in the NHS, and i must agree with many of your points. However we are overloaded with people from the 3rd world. They are often under qualified, sometimes i even wonder if they actually ARE qualified at all. My dept went from a majority british 15 years ago which operated with half the staff, with outdated diagnostics and yet we had a great morale and sense of teamwork. Now its a dept with 4 white men out of 57! We have double the staff, better diagnostics, but the place is barely functional, riven with in fighting between various minority interests, no trust, no teamwork, as well as the issues we have with qualifications surrounding these "new to the parish". Managers heads are so far in the sand, they might aswell be in Australia. When improvements are suggested i get an instant pushback from management, at one point being told what i said was a good idea but theyd have to change the SOPs! The inspection agencies such as MHRA, CQC, HCPC are completely unfit for practice and are unable to point to the very obvious problems...instead layering on yet more paperwork, unsuitable and often over complicated "fixes" to problems which dont even touch the main issues. Theres no saving this behemoth of stupidity and inflexibility.

[@flossytink]

What about bringing in a system similar to NHS dental charges? Means tested benefit people get free care and others pay a tiered capped charge?

[@dembydish]

If you need more money for health, try negotiating wars instead of fighting them endlessly.

[@aja4191]

Any government can throw money at the NHS and it will improve but the sooner a true in depth review is done, the quicker money will be better spent. Both parties just talk about improving nhs. Nhs has to have some unpopular medicine to become more efficient. A lot of savings to be made within & fast track our own nurses and doctors to work within nhs. If we keep voting for same parties and expect drastic changes is bonkers. Country is on its knee's so what have we to lose by applying a different strategy. The 2 parties promise everything and deliver nothing everytime.

[@Leoviliti1]

So many imported doctors and nurses ...the greater the need for translators also. Which we could save money on I didn't understand a word the doctor was telling me And even the translator had a few words wrong and told me that I had a UTI causing the pain When it wasn't . It was more serious But I went home confused as I hadn't even received care for this so called UTI, like prescribing me antibiotics ? However over the next few days I merely got a letter stating that I'm to be admitted . I felt it came out of the blue but none the wiser as to why they needed to admit me. So yeah that in itself could be a vast improvement if we were to train our own.

[@g00mba]

Hasn't Farage already said that he wants an insurance based system like the US?

[@YouKnowImRight999]

No, he's made it very clear that he prefers the French system. Stop this nonsensical slur about Reform liking the US system. They DON'T.

[@seniorslaphead8336]

What! Invest in your own people... what is this madness?

[@CheckFred]

The reason the NHS can't trajn Nurses because LABOUR made the ENTRY cinditions TOO HIGH! .... 'Vocational Workers' are not usually Academic .. But to be accepted into the training colleges you have to have a University Degree - NOW! That means 100's of 1,000's of young, caring people miss the boat - Unlike those wishing to train as nurses Pre- 90's ... Another reason to avoid LABOUR like the plague 🤨

[@catwoman7462]

Nurses need to be caring not great at essay writing. It's time to go back to the old-style training.

[@paulmatthews9366]

What you do mean pay for something you get for free ? I've been paying national insurance for 30 years.....i am paying as is everyone. You mean you'd like me to pay twice ?

[@gw7624]

Kate's point about needing immigration to support the NHS is entirely banal. The whole reason Britain needs to import foreign NHS staff is BECAUSE of immigration and its impact on population growth.

[@shelleyphilcox4743]

You need enough experienced doctors genuinely interested in teaching and supporting the training of new doctors...you have to create that capacity.

[@woodwyrm]

>Liz Truss mini-budget >Tomlinson Talks with _Liz Truss_ you had one job, Spectator

[@carolesutton3082]

Buildings built with British tax paid money being used to house private services.

[@oDaRRaGhx]

If Trump is to win the next election we need Nigel as PM to secure a Massive Trade Deal!

[@alexanderjohns1588]

The NHS in its present form is not able to be saved it requires radical surgery to save it.

[@turquoiseowl]

what idiotic, long-winded, illogical questions

[@DM-fs9gw]

No one seems to be talking about how bursaries for nursing are not available. There are so many 25-45 year olds stuck in home care roles that can't afford to move into nursing as they would have to give up their jobs. They have so much to offer yet are left behind and replaced by nurses coming from other countries. To Improve the NHS is to stop wasting money on management and start investing in nursing access for British people. It's impossible to be a home carer and not subsidise your earnings with UC, raising up Brits is key to all reform not just the NHS.

[@wandawarthog5724]

She really didn’t like the fact this gent is supporting Reform did she?

[@Grassyfieldsflowers]

Our health system like our pension system is effectively an unsustainable ponzi scheme reliant on future generations being able to pay for the older generations and yet our economy is in effective decline because of poor policies. We have high housing and energy costs because of net zero, restrictive planning regulations, migration and and an ageing population. The problem is the young don’t have the money to pay for an ever growing population with a stagnant economy. We’ve got to stop the net zero none sense and dig for our own energy, we could have cheaper energy and then a booming industry from that cheaper energy. If we were able to build more houses and lowered migration our housing costs would fall and people would have more money to potentially spend on things like health care.

[@catwoman7462]

Nurses aren't badly paid. They currently start on £28,407 and are guaranteed a pay rise every year until on year 7 they are on £34,581. That's this year's salary, and when they have the annual pay review all those figures will be increased. They can increase their qualifications and go up the pay bands.

[@LexTNeville]

NHS front line staff are too often in poor health. More overtime is not going to help that. If anyone should be a shining beacon of health, it is they. Living in a world where you believe our jab rollout was a success and that radiotherapy is good enough is defeatist. If we were to properly fund nutritional health, we'd reduce NHS waiting lists optimally. Who is more detached from reality? Me who believes we could loosen the grasp pharmaceutical 'medicine' has over the NHS and thusly impove the nations health, or Karol who believes those mRNA things were health giving? Please bare in mind our rocketing excess death figures since 2021.

[@Wagtail333]

It is the NHS Management that needs to go. Stop allowing young Doctors trained in the UK to move abroad for more money and a better life. Lock them in for at least 10 years and maybe give them some help with the cost of studies.

[@Locke350]

Also get rid of the DEI (pronounced die) managers and policies. They waste the most money.

[@keithjackman8886]

Yes, I believe he/they can. Far too many chiefs and nowhere enough indians.

[@grimawormtongue1949]

The interviewer's ideological angle is repulsive. As if we shouldn't be thinking in terms of justice at a national level...

[@linda-nl8ib]

But we have mostly men Coming in I accept we need carers But i seen it how these people treat people Speaking in their own language I confronted some Didn't give a shit Theae people cone from voilent countries Do any of thesr government reaslise The danger we are in

[@pendorran]

You had better f**king hope Labour can do it, because a Labour supermajority is what you're electing, make no mistake. Splitting the Right and Centre Right vote is an absolute gift to Starmer, Rayner and company.

[@johnsmith1474]

The light, but irritating "gargling" vocal fry on this woman is very unfortunate.

[@StephenAnderson-l2l]

At last someone who talks sence make their wages tax free and provide free transport

[@williamvorkosigan5151]

Kate Andrews: "We believe in individual agency". She doesn't respect the individual wishes of the vast majority of people in this country that have expressed that they don't want any more immigration. She seems to have magical thinking. That any real-estate can physically absorb Immigration Infinity. I am not sure she cares that it has and will continue to make England unrecognisable. She subscribes to borrowing money infinity too. We really don't need an economics editor who has magical thinking. Can we please import an Economics Editor who will do her job for less money and have the common decency not to talk about the immigration policy of the country in which he or she is a guest.

[@RDHamel]

The silliest thing I’ve heard in this whole campaign. Only available at the tater.

[@user-iz9co4qf6z]

The NHS is broken, the NHS needs REFORM

[@yeahna9989]

Broken in part by reform’s Brexit

[@user-iz9co4qf6z]

@@yeahna9989 how's that then?

[@user-iz9co4qf6z]

@@yeahna9989 nothing to offer?

[@user-iz9co4qf6z]

@@yeahna9989 nothing to add?

[@Boards-dont-hit-back]

@@yeahna9989 your brain is broken

[@JakeCole1453]

He's one of the wisest voices on NHS reform on the airwaves.

[@eddie1330]

Vote Reform to get our country back and teach the Tories and Labour a lesson they will never forget

[@BenJ2020]

Me and my family are all voting reform!

[@Martin-oz6lr]

I can't wait to hear your family complaining in 15/ 20 years time about how Reform have privatised England to death, and you just can not afford to pay ten different lots of insurance that will perpetually increase in price. You're voting for the Devil himself by voting Farage. If you and your family had any sense, you'd spoil your ballot papers at this election.

[@markhutton6055]

Its not funding. Its not understaffing. Its management. They are NOT underpaid. The NHS has record funding. It has nearly twice as many Doctors per 100,000 as Norway and. Atleast 50% more nurses. (Edit: this depends on where you look. The data on the internet varies wildly, but the worst values for Doctors/Nurses put the UK at about average). HCAs are the nurses. They have plenty of funding for DIE courses. Lose thousands of man days per year on disciplinary actions, mostly getting pronouns wrong. The big problem with the NHS is the hands off mob. it needs root and branch reform.r

[@lorraineh3889]

I completely agree with training some medical staff on the job. Nursing training used to start with learning how to care for patients; washing them, changing beds with patients in etc before moving onto dispensing drugs, medical care etc etc. Now RGN’s have to have a high standard of education to be accepted for academic training. I really believe in having specialist nurses who can study for degrees but not for all nurses. I see no problem with the best nurses and paramedics going on the train as Doctors.

[@BrianPaterson-f3i]

Reform voter = common sense

[@LIFEMA-b1d]

Its got to be Reform UK .

[@johncoppinger3208]

The numbers don’t add up Kate because you haven’t even attempted to look at Reform’s methodology for raising that money from other means . Such as abandoning the madness of net zero .

[@catwoman7462]

And the bottomless pit of HS2

[@PointNemo9]

Nothing more to be expected of an American sticking their nose into British politics

[@2010lrain]

'Net zero' the most ridiculous words ever uttered.

[@deja-view1017]

And not paying interest on quantitative easing. They also ignore that people who have more money tend to spend more - increasing income on VAT etc The Reform leaders are businessmen, this is what running a successful business (UK plc) looks like.

[@souxcasa]

A bottom up training programme makes way more sense than the current system. You would find people who were good at the job and had the desire to do it that way. instead of privileged kids who do it cos it brings social prestige and who don't really care about their patients

[@catwoman7462]

The old system of nurse training was better. People need someone who can nurse, not write a fantastic essay to get good grades.

[@souxcasa]

@@catwoman7462 agreed, I would rather see someone competent than someone who is able to write about competency

[@mogznwaz]

I will vote for ANY party that: - isn’t the WEF Uniparty - will go medieval on Islam and mass immigration. It’s very simple to me - I want my country back.

[@anglodoomer5995]

Swapping out one Indian for another. There’s your country.

[@everest9707]

Bit of a long read, but I think that you will find it interesting - please let me know your thoughts. The effects of uncontrolled migration are seen in: - increase of people on benefits. See the government's data of unemployment by ethnicity - despite the image fed to us, white British have the lowest unemployment rate compared to all other ethnicities. - artificially lowering the minimum wage due to an abundance of cheap imported labour. We have parts of the indigenous population that rely heavily on low paid low skilled jobs, and they are having to compete with people who are used to earning below the poverty level of Africa, Indian Subcontinent, etc - increase in house prices and rental prices - which also impacts the birth rate of the indigenous population, as they will avoid having children if they can't afford them. - building on protected Green Belt land due to the housing pressure - more building on existing buildings, and conversions into houses of multiple occupation (HMO), all causing social tension as people live cheek by jowl. - increase in violence and crime. Some of which is specific to certain ethnicities. Knife (and machete) crime is more frequent, however whilst it captures the headlines, many other forms of crime, not typical to the indigenous population are flourishing. The Indian subcontinent grooming gangs rap_ing/assaulting/drugging white children. Shoplifting epidemic. violent clashes between different migrant groups! - increased demand for extra policing and prison officers, in the tens of thousands, and prison buildings (look at the prison population, where there is again a disproportionately higher number of foreign criminals. We are already releasing criminals early, and not imprisoning others, due to a lack of prison places! And the increase in taxes to pay for these. - increased demand on the judiciary. Our courts are blocked with massive queues, and everything is done to delay cases going to the CPS or going to court. We have a lack of staff and buildings. Very serious cases are rarely reaching the CPS or courts, or take years to go through the system. This causes a lack of justice, an increased risk to the population as criminals continue to live amongst us, and it encourages crime (justice needs to be swift to act as a deterrent). - the loss of our capital city London. It is now predominantly populated by people who self identify as belonging to an ethnic minority. You rarely hear English spoken! This will impact London's tourism - a £14,000,000,000pa industry! - greater difficulty in seeing a healthcare professional, especially one that speaks intelligible English, be it a GP, Consultant, or dentist - hospitals declaring emergencies as their A&E queues of ambulances with patients stuck in them grow longer. Even hospitals, in areas with a vast majority of white British population, if you go to the A&E it will be full of people from the middle east, Indian subcontinent, and Africa. Often you won't hear English being spoken! - increased burden of disabled children, on healthcare, special education needs, and state benefits (both for disability, and for the unemployed parents that stay at home caring for their disabled children), unnecessarily caused by cousin marriage, from people from the Indian subcontinent - lack of school and university places. Pressures to change what is being taught, in particular to suit Muslim, and other minority religious populations - the enormous congestion on all of our roads. Even country lanes! - religious and social tension, especially from ethnicities that are not interested in integrating - increased suffering of female children subjected to FGM and child marriage - increased distortion of UK elections, as women from the Indian subcontinent lose their vote to their husbands. And various members of parliament campaign for a specific religious interest, eg Islam, or about conflicts in Gaza or Kashmir! - loss of money spent in the UK economy, as migrants send it back to their countries of origin MORAL QUESTION Is it morally right to import cheap labour to be exploited? And what about those skilled migrants, eg nurses and doctors, that are actually needed in their own country. Is it morally right for the UK to benefit from poorer countries paying to educate and train skilled workers? MENTAL HEALTH BURDEN The effects of a lot of the above pressures, are seen in a rapid increase in mental health problems across all ages, but especially in the young working adults, adults who should, if anything, be the most resilient of society. FINANCIAL BURDEN The UK National Debt is over £3 trillion! Watch it growing in real time: www.nationaldebtclock.co.uk BIRTH RATE FALSE THEORY Some people believe in the theory, that we need to import people because of our lower birth rate, and that there is certain work that we don't want to do. This ignores the fact that we need to increase productivity, especially with automation/robotics/AI (Artificial Intelligence), because other countries will certainly be investing in this, and all of these REDUCE job vacancies - there will be fewer jobs in the near future! Our population might not apply for very low paid jobs, eg picking fruit, or nursing the elderly, but that is because the rates of pay are ridiculously low. Pay a fair wage in an economy that doesn't tilt the table by importing cheap labour! Young indigenous couples, avoid having children because they cannot afford to have them, or don't have the economic and housing stability that they need. This responsible approach to reproducing, is not shared by migrants coming to the UK - they are prepared to live in poverty, and have their large families subsidised by the UK taxpayer. Whilst also importing their sick and elderly relatives. WHAT CAN YOU DO? Vote Reform UK! Whoever you decide to vote for, please vote, and encourage others to vote. More people didn't bother to vote (2,496,468) than voted (1,088,225) for Sadiq Khan. More people didn't bother to vote (47,533) than voted (12,335) for Galloway. More people didn't bother to vote (15,553,935) than voted (13,966,454) for the Tories at the last general election. If you don't vote, or you spoil your ballot, then that simply means that Fatima/Mohamed's vote counts - and their interests, eg Islam and Sharia law, might not align with what is best for us and our nation.

[@mellysmercsprinter4213]

I agree 💯 with all this, well said!

[@everest9707]

@@mellysmercsprinter4213 thanks 👍

[@alisonbrown1841]

Labour subcontracted the nhs out in section departments!! Subcontracted/privitised??? Is their a difference

[@Phenn5589]

My daughter just graduated from med school and will start as a junior doc next month. However. Some of her year cohort who also graduated have been unable for find a position in the nhs and will now be forced to wait and hope to get a job in a year. I understand its similar for RNs. And yet i keep hearing there is a shortage of doctors and nurses.

[@terryo5672]

I had friends who failed to get into medical school in the late 70’s. Even with 3xA’s you would be very lucky to get in. Seems crazy that we never trained enough and instead import medics from low grade medical schools from places like Pakistan instead.

[@yeahna9989]

Because it’s cheaper than training your own.

[@ellie698]

It's insane isn't it. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out that it's an unsustainable policy to follow. Never going to lead anywhere good 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@samlee3039]

Pakistan, for all its faults, has an excellent medical education system, put there by the British during the empire. In fact Pakistan's is better than much more developed places like China and Russia.

[@schofield4836]

I’m 65 and I have never seen a white GP

[@terryo5672]

@@schofield4836 I remember seeing a white male GP when I was young. Not for the last 20 years or so, but saying that you can’t get to see a GP anyway.

[@Madoldcatlady]

Wow! What a radical idea.., incentivising young people. Honestly, our leaders have been disgustingly abysmal over the last couple of decades.

[@FraserBailey-jm5yz]

Kate Andrews desperate to steer Sikora away from supporting Reform. The Spectator really is pathetic. That aside, there is no shortage of money in the NHS, the wages are generally very good, and there is no shortage of people. My mother was in hospital recently for a couple of weeks and there were nurses and staff everywhere, many of them from overseas.

[@Build_Secrets]

600,000 people leave the country every year. 100,000 health and care workers come to the country each year. We could run at negative 500,000 people a year and still let all the health and care workers we need in. What people aren't talking about, is most of those who leave every year are British citizens, and they don't lose their right to the NHS when they move abroad. This means that even with net zero migration, the number of people the NHS serves will continue to rise by over half a million people every year! This is completely unworkable!