Why I'm no longer vegan

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Kim Herøy

Kim Herøy

Күн бұрын

In this video, I'm talking about why I quit veganism after getting three major health issues.
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@daphnereloaded3480
@daphnereloaded3480 6 жыл бұрын
Veganism almost killed me - I made some videos explaining it.
@angelthemodernhippie3889
@angelthemodernhippie3889 6 жыл бұрын
Vjeran Crnjak she's a flat earther...enough said
@emptyclaw1265448
@emptyclaw1265448 6 жыл бұрын
Talk to vegetable police about how he fixed his gut issues.
@shagb2751
@shagb2751 6 жыл бұрын
Angel Casey and you are a religious zealot. Veganism is your religion
@angelthemodernhippie3889
@angelthemodernhippie3889 6 жыл бұрын
Shag B yea! I worship animals! Stop eating my gods! 😂😂😂😂😂 dumb ass
@emptyclaw1265448
@emptyclaw1265448 6 жыл бұрын
Angel Casey kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKu8aXVsftOrhpY
@XYZ-nw1dh
@XYZ-nw1dh 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I found it very very hard to eat animal products again. But when I felt the improvement in my gut and brain, that was it.
@Marco-fi6gv
@Marco-fi6gv 5 жыл бұрын
Good for you for waking up
@lauratanln
@lauratanln 2 жыл бұрын
How do you objectively say it's better for your gut? And whether it's true
@lauratanln
@lauratanln 2 жыл бұрын
Those who claim to feel better could be from those who stand to benefit from selling animal products
@novalife429
@novalife429 6 жыл бұрын
As an ex vegan I'm living for this vegan quitting videos ❤
@jordandthornburg
@jordandthornburg 6 жыл бұрын
NovaLife thats pretty sad.
@novalife429
@novalife429 6 жыл бұрын
Jordan Thornburg losing my hair, aging extremely faster than average, having anemia and almost losing my teeth was way sadder
@jackieharrington2732
@jackieharrington2732 6 жыл бұрын
I am too. I had horrible gut issues on a vegan diet 😔
@Fakestockguru
@Fakestockguru 6 жыл бұрын
I was hardcore pro vegan trying to get all my friends vegan now im anti vegan. All the health problems I was experiencing I thought were due to age until I started eating meat again. I feel like I got my life back from eating meat. I could be here all day making a list of problems I was experiencing.
@BlackLabelSlushie
@BlackLabelSlushie 6 жыл бұрын
Gilestuber hi please make a video about it. Its really interesting plus important.
@ronarmstrong835
@ronarmstrong835 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing how many "Vegan diet almost killed me" videos there are. You never see any "Keto almost killed me" videos.
@decentaur5040
@decentaur5040 5 жыл бұрын
Heart disease that actually KILLS millions per annum is most exclusively caused by animal fat and cholesterol. It's the biggest ACTUAL killer of human population.
@selfhealing1047
@selfhealing1047 5 жыл бұрын
it`s fat and cholesterol that kill but BAD EATING HABIT! that includes a lot of sugar intake from vegan diet
@knittingknut
@knittingknut 5 жыл бұрын
Decentaur you are spouting old, outdated knowledge. Cholesterol is no longer a nutrient of concern. It’s going to take a while for this mis information to be eradicated from our dietary advice
@deborahsimon1101
@deborahsimon1101 5 жыл бұрын
@@decentaur5040 That's not true. Heart disease is NOT caused by cholesterol or animal fat. Both ideas are myths that have been thoroughly discredited over the past few years. It's actually the carbs that are the problem. If people eat meat, animal fat and cholesterol WITHOUT carbs, they don't get heart disease.
@ugzy
@ugzy 5 жыл бұрын
You are all both right and wrong... the issue is eating fat and carbs in the same meal... the body will use the sugar from the carbs and stock up on the fat so basically either diet works on this aspect if you only take this into consideration.
@derpestarzt
@derpestarzt 6 жыл бұрын
yeh, tingling in your hands and feet are nerves dying due to a deficiency of B12 (and other B vitamins), I had it very bad until I got diagnosed and got B12 injections. It affects your brain too of course, I was barely able to put sentences together back then, I have recovered but I'm never going to be as articulate as I used to be before that whole vitamin deficiency nightmare happened.
@BlackLabelSlushie
@BlackLabelSlushie 6 жыл бұрын
derpestarzt yep my exs mother after 27 years pure vegan is a complete horror story of nerve pain and problems and almost seems to have mild dementia or something. But to her, its NEVER EVER the vegan diets fault. She just thinks she didnt have ENOUGH juice cleanses, not ENOUGH enemas blah blah blah.
@ritesharora6032
@ritesharora6032 6 жыл бұрын
@@BlackLabelSlushie what's her diet. I mean typical breakfast, lunch dinner
@BlackLabelSlushie
@BlackLabelSlushie 6 жыл бұрын
I have not seen her eat enough to know really. All I know is that everything and I mean everything she eats is organic and 100% vegan, no exceptions. She is a maniac about health and actually even spent several years as a paid vegan health/healing coach. She is the biggest know-it-all blowhard I have ever met in my entire life. She eats a lot of hummus, gluten free vegan bread, vegan GF burritos, Kite Hill vegan cheese, ridiculously expensive almond milk among others (I know that from buying stuff for when the witch visited us). One thing I do know is she apparently believes vitamin B12 is not necessary to supplement. so possibly this has something to do with her nerve pain.
@ritesharora6032
@ritesharora6032 6 жыл бұрын
@@BlackLabelSlushie because vegan can also mean eating things like bread, pasta, cereal, cookies. I have seen many vegans thriving who avoid junk and focused on vegetables
@BlackLabelSlushie
@BlackLabelSlushie 6 жыл бұрын
Ritesh Arora by the way what is wrong with pasta? I keep hearing its bad but why?
@williamcarine1673
@williamcarine1673 6 жыл бұрын
get as much saturated fat and cholesterol as possible for nerve health. this leg thing happened with me too. it's still not all better but much better in a meat diet. I'm still trying to get that down properly though.
@karalynn2005
@karalynn2005 6 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your honesty. I was struggling mentally after about 7 years vegan. Right now currently really having difficulty incorporating animal products (mental chanllange, guilt, shame and embarrassment). You are not the only one. Good luck to your recovery. I think balance is key. Also you can still have a moral ground against animal cruelty by buying only cruelty free products. Also, sourcing your meat properly helps as well. ♥️❤️♥️❤️
@bonnievandyke8301
@bonnievandyke8301 6 жыл бұрын
Kara Lynn Wow 7 years, I broke down at just over a year but I think that's because I grew up lacto vegetarian and went in and out of that for a couple of decades. Totally depleted.
@decentaur5040
@decentaur5040 5 жыл бұрын
unfortunately there are no "cruelty free" products. Unless you are paying 100 bucks a chicken you can be sure that they have NOT actually been pastured. Anyway I"m sorry that you didn't do well - did you ever try to see a vegan nutritionist?
@beant.6360
@beant.6360 5 жыл бұрын
@@decentaur5040 Stop it with your vegan propaganda...you are trying to kill people it is obvious.
@garypack1709
@garypack1709 5 жыл бұрын
@@decentaur5040Vegan nutritionist ? Those are two words that do not belong together
@trakeC
@trakeC 2 жыл бұрын
No. No you cant still hold moral ground by buying cruelty free. Cruelty free is not a real thing. Its just a sticker to make people feel better about abusing animals
@mjolnir9855
@mjolnir9855 6 жыл бұрын
Following a vegan diet, is like being a vampire who refuses to consume blood. You need some animal products at some point. No way around it. I had to come to the same decision. What's more important - my life, or an animal's? I won. My life is more important to me.
@florencenyandiko3687
@florencenyandiko3687 6 жыл бұрын
Ekstij Amezie hahaha.
@michaelcohen2760
@michaelcohen2760 5 жыл бұрын
The taking of life to sustain life is a primary activity of the natural world. Animals are meant to be killed and eaten.
@decentaur5040
@decentaur5040 5 жыл бұрын
No population in history ate animal flesh like this generation - and no population in history suffered from heart disease, diabetes and cancer like this generation. You are not a vampire needing blood, you are just an animal grease addict that needs the "fix" like an alcoholic.
@michaelcohen2760
@michaelcohen2760 5 жыл бұрын
@@decentaur5040 Simply untrue, more vegan propaganda. Most of the calories in modern diets come from carbohydrates and seed oils
@darkdaughter5966
@darkdaughter5966 5 жыл бұрын
Give the animal a good life and a humane death.
@2redbird1
@2redbird1 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve been there. I was vegetarian since age 12. Then I went Vegan. My health plummeted. I had so many health problems I thought I was going to die. I went Vegan to help with some health issues. I’m 55. I started having muscle wasting. I did everything they told me to do. Finally they said I had to eat some meat. This is just how my body works. I wrote everything down. They said my diet was fine but my body just couldn’t absorb what I needed any more. I went back to a diet that my Grandmother fed me on her homestead. Lots of veggies, very small amounts of meat, low fat because I’ve be diabetic since age 12. I’m fine now. Docs are amazed. Genetically not all of us can be Vegan.
@bonnievandyke8301
@bonnievandyke8301 6 жыл бұрын
Keto is brilliant for diabetes...rather than low fat.
@decentaur5040
@decentaur5040 5 жыл бұрын
YOu know that you can eat fat even as a vegan right? *facepalm* Were you eating ZERO fat as a vegan??? jesus christ what are you people doing to yourselves then blaming veganism???
@GreblosSuiram
@GreblosSuiram 6 жыл бұрын
I used to believe plants were healthy and not only that - necessary for good health. After going colt turkey, cutting them out completely, major things have happened regard to my health. I wasn't a vegan before, but I did eat two pounds of vegetables every day. Hope it's okay for you that I share my experiences with you. The first thing that happened was that my leaky gut healed completely within two weeks, I've struggled with this since I was a young teenager. The second thing that got better was my "chronic" inflamed shoulder, I do feel it a tiny bit of something after a heavy chest and shoulder day at the gym, but earlier I could barely brush my teeth, so it's nothing like before. My grass and pollen allergies I've struggled with since I was a boy, is gone. In the spring my face got swollen, and I could barely breathe, even with meds. But this year I haven't used them. My energy is much better, it's very stable compared to before. The biggest improvement however, and the reason why I want to continue ditching plants is my mood. My depression and anxiety is gone. I used to be an excessive over thinker, worrying about everything, what other people though of me, how I looked, the future... Well, my depression is gone. I sometimes feel euphoric or I guess you could call it "high", crazy as it sounds. I find my self smiling walking down the streets, something I never did before. I feel more in touch with my true self, I have a very strong feeling that this is how I am supposed to be, and I am getting closer to my true potentional. We are not supposed to be sick and obese, or struggle with mental issues. The brain in mainly made of the omega 3 fatty acid DHA and cholesterol, which is only found in animal products. The strange thing is that even though I've always eaten meat, these issues didn't resolve before going strictly, only meat. So maybe the plants, at least for me, did more damage than good. Good luck towards a better health and a true and honest version of your self! We all deserve to reach our full potentional, physically and mentally.
@MrsTabby1963
@MrsTabby1963 6 жыл бұрын
Completely agree, Marius. The lifting depression in particular, was a revelation and unexpected. Plants are not really our friend I think. Animal protein and fat is essential to thrive.
@ZekeMan62
@ZekeMan62 6 жыл бұрын
MrsTabby1963 Me too. I went Carnivore to get relief from fatigue and joint pain due to Lyme disease. It worked, but I didn't expect the mental effects. I'm much sharper cognitively and my old moody depression prone persona vanished and a new man showed up in it's place, the man I was meant to be. Life's a dream. For good or ill, its amazing how powerful diet can be.
@GreblosSuiram
@GreblosSuiram 6 жыл бұрын
We ate meat for thousands and tens of thousands of years before we hunted the big animals instinct and turned to agriculture for ten thousand years ago. As a result our brains have shrunken ten percent, and we have destroyed the top soil and hummus, which holds carbon, so there you have global warming with deserts and flooded villages.
@adrena7321
@adrena7321 6 жыл бұрын
@@GreblosSuiram did you start eating raw meat? What does your diet look like without plants?
@decentaur5040
@decentaur5040 5 жыл бұрын
Most people are overweight and 40% of the population is obese in the world where everyone is stuffing their face with flesh of poor animal victims WHAT IN THE WORLD ARE YOU FREAKING TALKING ABOUT? WE AREN'T MEANT TO BE OBESE!!! LOOK AROUND YOU - YOU ARE SURROUNDED BY FLESH EATING OBESE AND SICK MORONS!
@michaelcohen2760
@michaelcohen2760 5 жыл бұрын
Ask yourself "Why am I at war with my own vitality and health? "
@davidwalz94
@davidwalz94 5 жыл бұрын
Because vegans hate themselves, and others
@cipher1500
@cipher1500 6 жыл бұрын
You've made the right choice to quit. I hope your recovery is swift. Meat is health and vitality. I understand the break away from the vegan worldview will be hard, but you must come to terms with reality. The truth will set you free. And that truth is that humans need animals for health.
@cq1903
@cq1903 6 жыл бұрын
You should let Sv3rige interview you
@keychaful
@keychaful 6 жыл бұрын
Clare smyth : No, he’s normal, but that guy Sv3rige is a fool.
@donnanichols6938
@donnanichols6938 5 жыл бұрын
@@willowway42 Yes He does.He does not interrupt an ask just a few questions Now he's out there on some things. lol
@Floridazen
@Floridazen 6 жыл бұрын
Don't feel guilty find what works for you and trying to heal your immune condition. Look into the GAP style eating research-I would find a good natural doctor get a vitC and Myers cocktail IV-you need a hair test.
@MrsTabby1963
@MrsTabby1963 6 жыл бұрын
It's disappointing when a vegan realises that the vegan way of eating is just not good for a human's health, even with careful supplementation, over long term. I eat animal proteins and fats mostly and haven't needed to see a doctor since I started, two and a half years ago. Seriously healthier than before I started, when I ate low fat high carb. Just wasn't healthy for me either. Carbohydrates particularly processed sugar, fruit and grains, are not healthy for humans at all. Well, that's my experience . I hope that you (Kim) can find good health again.
@orangejuice7247
@orangejuice7247 3 жыл бұрын
You are very wrong. I have been living for 2 years on a raw diet healthier than ever, mostly carbs, less protein and fat. If you had been getting health issues... those were detox symptoms.
@MIPlarsen
@MIPlarsen 6 жыл бұрын
Remember to eat organic chicken, grass fed meat, and wildcaught salmon and not the farm raised! There is a difference in nutrition and omega 6 and omega 3 ratios! Stay with soft leafy green vegetables and stay away from to many fiber since it will irritate your gut. That’s how you can cure colitis ! And bone broth is the most important thing! Are you danish or Swedish? I’m a ex vegan as well, but it made me sick which is why I went back to meat. Look up antinutrients in beans and grains, they are making us sick
@pascalbruenner
@pascalbruenner 4 жыл бұрын
Antinutrients make us sick? Is that why some antinutrients have been proven to combat cancer? The pros of the whole plant foods far outweigh the small cons of the antinutrients (which are almost completely destroyed during cooking anyway). Don't forget that fiber is needed for a healthy gut microbiome.
@tterb777
@tterb777 6 жыл бұрын
Anderson Coopers mom just had an art show in NYC. She acted like she was in her late 70's. When the asked how she did what she did at 97 years old I was floored! She said she has steak in the morning I couldn't freakin believe it.... I personally am done with being a vegan... too many emotional roller coasters for me ... done...
@newworldlord643
@newworldlord643 6 жыл бұрын
I stopped because my common sense and body also told me I needed to. I had some of the same issues you mentioned don't play with your life like this
@zaluq
@zaluq 6 жыл бұрын
Feed your health , not others opinion.
@klaushuxley3342
@klaushuxley3342 6 жыл бұрын
Pro-tip - never, ever follow the 'mainstream.'
@Gambit771
@Gambit771 6 жыл бұрын
vanslem6 Never? Better to say that you shouldn't follow something just because it is mainstream. You shouldn't dismiss and slander something just because it is popular. That's almost as stupid as being Vegan which by the way isn't mainstream.
@AM-rj9xb
@AM-rj9xb 6 жыл бұрын
So you mean he should go vegan?
@decentaur5040
@decentaur5040 5 жыл бұрын
Mainstream is all about "milk is calcium and you gotta eat animal protein" you morons. 98% munch on flesh and most are diseased and obese.
@jacknap6745
@jacknap6745 6 жыл бұрын
high potassium damage the nervous system,that was my case,my leg went normal as soon as I added high salt diet for a while.
@sonyb8017
@sonyb8017 6 жыл бұрын
Jack Nap Sorry that happened to you. The high potassium damage probably happened because potassium and sodium work together. Minerals need to be balanced, so adding sodium was a great solution.
@piccolina721
@piccolina721 6 жыл бұрын
Our body is built on saturated fat and cholesterol so it is the backbone of our being. Veal liver is the best source of B12. Unfortunately you are lacking all of it in fruits vegetables and legumes for as long as you*ve been vegan , it*s time to get your health back !
@kimandreasheroy
@kimandreasheroy 6 жыл бұрын
I've been taking B12 supplements for three years so that can't be it though.
@darkchocopuff1510
@darkchocopuff1510 6 жыл бұрын
Plants, especially green vegs also have B12 but it was fake(analog) and non reliable. Some studies point out that fake B12 not only useless, but also can be harmful. It can compete with real B12, which preventing our body from absorbing and getting sufficient B12, despite being supplemented.
@piccolina721
@piccolina721 6 жыл бұрын
Check out Sv3rige , there are plenty of x-Vegans with their story.
@XYZ-nw1dh
@XYZ-nw1dh 6 жыл бұрын
Plant-Based Kim.... Many supplements are not well absorbed by the body, especially if you have poor digestion. Also, many of them are in non bio available forms. Even expensive brands like Solgar sometimes or often use poor forms E. G calcium carbonate or magnesium oxide.
@edithnell227
@edithnell227 6 жыл бұрын
Kim, it's likely you are not absorbing B12 well. 203 is too low. I caused myself permanent neurological damage during my time on a vegan diet. Google Sally Patcholok. See her book 'Could it be B12 ?' It has information on vegan and vegetarian diets. I think it's important that you read this. Also look for Dr. Georgia Ede.
@vegasrenie
@vegasrenie 5 жыл бұрын
Your body is screaming at you for what you need. It is your brain and heart that are getting in the way. Please don’t get to the point where everything you’re going through is irreversible. Let your body take over and feed it what it needs. Not all of us are cut out to be vegan, and many of us have tried. Best wishes for you, my friend
@witchesbane9807
@witchesbane9807 6 жыл бұрын
eat only red steak and raw eggs, cut out all green vegetation! That's inflammatory
@Cobramp4
@Cobramp4 6 жыл бұрын
i hope this was intended as a joke
@jamiecee4960
@jamiecee4960 6 жыл бұрын
Do you want him to get Gout? You will get Gout eating just red meats. That's just crazy. And green veggies are healthy for you which fights Inflammation. Not sure where the heck you get your info from. But it's nuts.
@The25Sister
@The25Sister 6 жыл бұрын
Only nightshade vegetables are inflammatory.
@adrena7321
@adrena7321 6 жыл бұрын
I would suspect this kind of info must be from someone like sv3rige.
@leoniesutton712
@leoniesutton712 6 жыл бұрын
Glad you found your way back ,,, we wouldn't expect a lion to eat broccoli !!! Eat what is right for your health ,,,
@hardcorejab
@hardcorejab 6 жыл бұрын
KZbin Daphne Reloaded. Good health to you.
@reformationinc.3376
@reformationinc.3376 6 жыл бұрын
Jose Bonilla have you heard of Patrik Baboumian?
@hardcorejab
@hardcorejab 6 жыл бұрын
Reformation * Yes. He takes alot of supplements and I suspect steroids. Some people get sick and even die if they become vegan?
@l.j.7540
@l.j.7540 2 жыл бұрын
@@hardcorejab you're talking about oils, not fats
@XYZ-nw1dh
@XYZ-nw1dh 6 жыл бұрын
Glycine and glutamine are good for my anxiety. Both are very low or low in vegan diet. Best source of glycine is gelatine /thick bone broth. For glutamine I found raw goats milk is good. Glutamine is in many foods, but goats milk had 2x as much glutamine per gram of protein as say, pork muscle meat or lentils. This is why it's important to eat a variety of proteins. Each part of the animal and plants have different amino acid ratio. So, if you eat only muscle meat, or only legumes, you'll probably wind up with too much of some amino acids and not enough of the rest. Vegans claim that your body can make other amino acids by conversion. But this takes good health, especially good gut health. Many people in the west today do not have this. Thus, amino acid supplements are now very popular. I've tried them but they smell and taste so chemical. Made in a lab. Very expensive and provide no calories or vits and minerals. Milk has them all 😎. I'm on raw goats milk. So expensive but it works and now I'm off my GABA and a whole handful of other supplements 😊
@jasonturner6459
@jasonturner6459 6 жыл бұрын
Hans S Except the fact that it's not do easy to do because almost no multigenerational cultures have been vegan and many vegans end up with health issues. Maybe it can be done but it's not easy or natural
@Art_Dilees
@Art_Dilees 6 жыл бұрын
+Hans S As a Dietitian with access to food tables and the reference literature for all/most sources of protein and significant clinical experience I can say that protein is an issue on a vegan diet. The body absorbs complete protein, so even if beans have a lot of protein, the body will only actually absorb very little "complete" protein and discard the rest. So a plateful of beans may only have 6g available protein. Average requirement for 60kg healthy man would be approx 64g protein. When he gets unwell this requirement gets significantly higher.
@Art_Dilees
@Art_Dilees 6 жыл бұрын
@Hans S yeh u just have to look up UK food tables and countless studies its not hard. Its not old science. But of course if you know better :D which you obviously do......Yes u must combine foods. But typically these result in a very limited set. Eg. Rice and beans etc. Im not against veganism. However Ive seen too many malnourished vegans in hospital and its hard for them struggling along on v little nourishment losing weight, growing skeletal. You try your best but theres very little you can suggest. Because the requirement for nourishment during sickness is typically high. When u have ppl who are stuck in dogma they refuse even to help themselves -so family /friends/ loved ones have to witness them melting away.
@Art_Dilees
@Art_Dilees 6 жыл бұрын
protein deficiency leads to many consequences. To name a few kwashiokor, stunting, Immune compromise; repeated infection, poor resistance to infection and opportunity for chronic disease GI tract dysfunction and poor epithelial integrity resulting in IgE allergy or food intolerance. Disturbances in the endocrine system. Poor sleep, neurological disturbance, poor protein causes wasting muscles (including heart muscle) hair skin nails cognitive dysfunction impaired wound healing wound breakdown and pressure sores (where the bone is visible) weakness in cough reflex which leads to inability to expectorate secretions in the lungs which ultimately (combined with a poor nutritional status) leads to pneumonias and death
@larazen3720
@larazen3720 5 жыл бұрын
After being vegan for 5 years I started to have health problems as well. I started Incorporating pasture raised eggs and fish as well. I understand your anxiety and how hard it is to eat animal products again but you HAVE to care for yourself. Just do the best you can. You can eat meat minimally that is pasture raised and grass fed. Go visit the farm come to peace with your choice. Would love to hear a follow up on how you are doing now!
@wariswrong4920
@wariswrong4920 5 жыл бұрын
Trump should troll vegans with the truth about veganism. The media would go berserk
@tiffanyweber3028
@tiffanyweber3028 5 жыл бұрын
Prayers for you in this recovery. I was a vegan for 6 months. I starting to get tingling in my feet. It felt like cold water dripping on my foot. I knew I needed to turn back to eating meats. It was so hard because of the the information I accumulated over those 6 months. God bless you.
@tamarap387
@tamarap387 5 жыл бұрын
No apologies necessary for taking care of your health! Your body needs nutrients that can likely only be found in animal products. So glad you've caught things at this point! You have good spiney senses! Man has been consuming animal products from the beginning of time. We somehow evolved from this....I look forward to hearing how you heal! Thank you for sharing your story! Btw....Many people are sensitive to eggs....Most are NOT sensitive to beef.
@jg3000
@jg3000 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not saying don't eat vegietables but man helped make most vegietables. Cross pollination and domestication of a lot of plants. Most of our vegietables don't occur in nature. Think of it how an ant makes his mold garden. Which is why you balance your diet. Also to much uncooked vegietables can be toxic.
@XYZ-nw1dh
@XYZ-nw1dh 6 жыл бұрын
I've had same symptoms (tingling in my legs and feet) . B complex helped a bit, but when I took extra to really help, I got liver pain. Probably because they used artificial vits. Switched to chicken liver for my b vits. Better.
@myfragilelilac
@myfragilelilac 5 жыл бұрын
And by the way did you supplement b12?
@kimandreasheroy
@kimandreasheroy 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@alexcusenza2641
@alexcusenza2641 6 жыл бұрын
I had central serum retinopathy while doing ATKINS. It cleared after a couple years. I turned vegan and I got CSR again. It cleared after two more years. Veganism is not to blame. UC and other autoimmune disorders do NOT occur overnight...it takes years and years. Pam Popper is a great resource.
@alexcusenza2641
@alexcusenza2641 6 жыл бұрын
So I just watched two old WIEIAD videos and you are clearly not eating enough. Carbs like potatos and rice should be 50% of your plate. Pam Popper will tell you the same.
@lilmzmonkey69
@lilmzmonkey69 6 жыл бұрын
I was vegan for 2 years and recently started eating fish and eggs again for the same reason I’m trying to decide if I’m going to eat meat again. I’m having a lot of guilt :( but I have started to see my health go down. Always tired always bloated I have the same tingling that you are experience. I eat extremely “healthy” I don’t understand what’s going on with my body.
@Ilethsamael
@Ilethsamael 6 жыл бұрын
Dulce W you can eat animals and respect them.
@lilmzmonkey69
@lilmzmonkey69 6 жыл бұрын
Melinda Glinac I did the same thing. I had watermelon last night night woke up feeling hungover. Massive headache and tired.
@leahtv7778
@leahtv7778 6 жыл бұрын
Eat meat. You know you want to!
@klrees
@klrees 6 жыл бұрын
Dulce W do you take vitamin b12?
@klrees
@klrees 6 жыл бұрын
Ekstij Amezie if taking vitamin b12 don't have negative side effect then there's no issue on taking it
@truthfire8077
@truthfire8077 6 жыл бұрын
Do what is best for you and your health. Don't let anyone shame, fear monger, guilt you into eating a certain way because it doesn't fit into their box. Everyone has a certain way they choose to eat. If you want to stay Vegan, that's fine. If you want to eat some plants/fruits and some animal products, that's fine too. If you want to go to the opposite end of the spectrum and eat only from the animal kingdom, do it. Only you live in your body. No one else.
@askeemee6530
@askeemee6530 6 жыл бұрын
The key is moderate. Eat everything in moderate, not over or less. Eat before you hungry, stop eating before you full. And exercise moderately. Everything in moderate.
@ddbdbubbles
@ddbdbubbles 6 жыл бұрын
Don't hesitate. Eat a steak and some eggs. Your body needs it.
@Karen_G.
@Karen_G. 6 жыл бұрын
Go keto and get your health back. You can do it! Liver, beef, grass-fed, w/some fat (not super lean) is great. So is wild salmon (not farm raised) also good. Eggs are great....buy organic, free-range. Eggs are very good for you. Check out keto diet on youtube. Listen to Dr. Berg on keto. He walks you through it, so you understand what is healthy. No guessing. All the best to you
@Karen_G.
@Karen_G. 6 жыл бұрын
Here's a good video to understand how the body works. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKnCaZmVjtqfgck
@bobouistic
@bobouistic 6 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for vegans who have to quit when their choice was based on empathy, not so much for those who bash us claiming it is a healthier lifestyle. I really understand the empathy choice though but we are omnivores, that can't be changed by will.
@mandykillriff6854
@mandykillriff6854 6 жыл бұрын
bobouistic why? They should practice what they preach and sacrifice themselves for being so stupid, and arrogant about their own bodies.
@bobouistic
@bobouistic 6 жыл бұрын
@@mandykillriff6854 empathy I guess. For personal health it is a stupid reason but it makes a little sense.
@CarnevalOne
@CarnevalOne 6 жыл бұрын
don't ever go back. try raw meat and eggs.
@AM-rj9xb
@AM-rj9xb 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah if you want to get REALLY REALLY sick try raw meat and eggs. 😀
@BaibaVulgaris
@BaibaVulgaris 5 жыл бұрын
Don't eat raw mean and eggs, please cook them before you eat, it's so so delicious, good luck!
@ritesharora6032
@ritesharora6032 5 жыл бұрын
You were talking b12 supplements, still you got b12 deficiency. Does this ring a bell ? I am saying you can eat whatever good food you like , like you did. But if you are not absorbing it, then no use
@2manygamestoplay
@2manygamestoplay 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, I'd love to see an update! What's your diet nowadays? How do you feel?
@earthangel2522
@earthangel2522 6 жыл бұрын
Have you seen a chiropractic physician who does applied kinesiology (a technique which uses muscle testing to ask the body what it needs to strengthen the body). They usually work with nutritional supplementation. Because each human's health challenges are unique, applied kinesiology allows the practitioner to "ask" the individual's body what is specifically needed. A chiropractor looks for misalignment in the spine and. removes them by adjusting /the spine. This removes any interference to the proper functioning if the nervous system. There are also chiropractors trained in a technique called Contact Reflex Analysis ( CRA) which also uses muscle testing to find out what is going on with each organ in the body. They use nutritional supplementation to support the healing process. You referred to Norway several times. If you live in Norway, I don't know what the situation is there relative to chiropractors, but here in the states, many of them add nutritional supplementation to their practices. I have worked on by the two types of practitioners I mentioned above, and they helped bring me back from the brink of death when I had chronic fatigue syndrome. I had then a strict vegetarian for over 21 years. I got so weak I had to drop out of Redwood School. All I wanted to do was lie down on the floor in the hallways and I wouldn't have cared of people walked on me. That's how tired I was. I went first to a cra chiropractor for two years. Using nutritional supplementation and getting my spine adjusted on a regular basis to restore nerve health and functioning, I came back to a state of balance. But the most dramatic thing was reintroducing chicken and fish into my diet. When I dropped out of school, I got a job home nursing for an elderly bedridden woman. One day I boiled some chicken for her. When looking at the chicken broth in the pot, I it ooked like dirty dish water with Globs of fat floating on top. My response was "yuck.". It was a real turn-off . But I felt a strong inner voice prompting me to drink it. I really wrestling with the spirit on that one. For one thing, it really made me queasy to look at it. Secondly, my pride did not want me to give up my perfect 21-year record as a vegetarian finally, I overcame the resistance because I felt that it was Spirit speaking to me. So I drank it. Immediately my entire body vibrated with Newfound vigor. It was like every cell in my body said, "Thank you!!!!!" I felt immediately strengthened. That was a real eye-opener, because I realized that even with nutritional supplements there was still something in my actual food that I was consuming that was nutritionally deficient even though I had that epiphany, I was not able to go back to actually eating chicken or fish right away. Whenever I tried chewing on chicken flesh I had to spit it out, because it was so repugnant to me. I decided to give myself time to adjust to the thought of eating animal flesh again, so I experimented with simply adding organic chicken broth to my brown rice or made vegetable soups with chicken broth. That event was over 17 years ago. Once I got back to where I was strong enough I return to my studies ( It took me 18 months). I did so. I call myself FLEXITARIAN, but eat mainly vegetarian style. I get my protein from eggs, cheese, beans, hummus etc. I wouldn't dream of trying red meat ( gave up pork when I was twelve). I still do not purchase or cook chicken or fish, I will occasionally do tuna fish or chicken salad or I will eat the chicken if it's at a professional conference and that's all the Protein that's available to me. I think it is important to not e RIGID around concepts like "If you love nimals don't eat them" That statement isn't even true anyway. There are millions of people who eat animal flesh and toss a piece to their beloved dog who's sitting right beside them smacking its lips. BOTH animals are eating animal and BOTH can be healthy. Try drinking warm chicken broth with some parsley and see if it soothes and enliven you. The proverbial Jewish mothers who are often the butt of comedians' jokes for bringing a sick person chicken soup for EVERY ailment were -- I think-- on track. You sound as if you have a lot of issues. Under played by distress. I know how it feels to be weak and tired and confused about what to do when your health is lost but mental emotional states have a lot to do with health and healing perhaps even more so than just food. Get a copy of the book anatomy of an illness by Norman Cousins. he healed himself for a very painful connective tissue disease when the doctors have given up on him by following his inner guidance. he watch funny videos for many months and the illness which had him wracked with pain completely disappeared . It is said that laughter is the best medicine. there's plenty on KZbin to lift your spirits and take your mind off your troubles. there's a KZbin channel JUST FOR FUN. There are also funny animal videos that lift the spirits if you focus so much on naming diseases and fear of getting ill you actually create the very things you're afraid of because of your mental and emotional states. And PRAY FOR HELP ND NNER GUIDANCE. That was a strong component of my healing Journey. Also meditation helped because the healing process is facilitated when the body is in the state of relaxation. Let go and let God. here's a simple technique. Sit quietly somewhere put on soothing music if you choose, close your eyes. On the out breath simply say Let go. On the in breath mentally say, let God🙏. Good luck in your healing journey.
@thomassmith4999
@thomassmith4999 6 жыл бұрын
Good luck on the healing man, there is something in animal fats that helps us a lot
@akasuzq1970
@akasuzq1970 6 жыл бұрын
The most important thing you can do for yourself right now is learn how to take the emotion out of what you are eating. No way of eating will work for you until you relax. Stress WILL upset your digestion system - from one end to the other. Without a healthy digestive system, you can't have a healthy immune system - and you will get the diseases you are afraid of. Please stop Google'ing. I know how seductive it is to have access to so much information at your fingertips. But there comes a point where you have to stop reading and just listen to what your body is telling you. I hope you get better.
@bonnievandyke8301
@bonnievandyke8301 6 жыл бұрын
Your cobalamin/B12 needs to be MUCH higher. Some say between 500-1000...Japan I think. Mine was the same when I was vegan after a lot of vegetarianism. Nearly killed me. Please look after yourself - do no harm means eating for your health. Perhaps try bone broth. I too hated eggs and fish but my body needed them and now I love them. Interesting. How are you now?
@penguin.tempur
@penguin.tempur 5 жыл бұрын
Balance is better, we need both in moderation.
@thomasmorse6692
@thomasmorse6692 6 жыл бұрын
It's easy to feel sorry for animals but right now you need to feel sorry for yourself and then get mad at all the crap that you have believed and the extremes you have gone too. Admit that there are things you are designed to eat and meat is top priority. It is psychological hurdle you must throw yourself over and become as passionate about it as you were veganism. It's for your health and your mental state of mind. Don't take no for an answer. Kick it's ass. You were wrong. You tried that with bad results so now you know. Welcome back to sanity.
@katiesmith9634
@katiesmith9634 6 жыл бұрын
I hope you start listening to your own body and not vegan propaganda.
@hanstone2662
@hanstone2662 5 жыл бұрын
Check out vegetable police his ulcritive colitis hasn’t been bugging him since he changed to carnivore
@plutoplatters
@plutoplatters 5 жыл бұрын
I always wonder... why are people so "wacked out " about food ?
@SFreedberg1
@SFreedberg1 6 жыл бұрын
I had same tingling on a vegan diet...supplemented with Soy Milk which was fortified with B-12 and the symptoms went away
@mjolnir9855
@mjolnir9855 6 жыл бұрын
David Freed that's actually a good idea, however, he will eventually run inti the same problem again. The pepsin enzyme which strips b12 away from other proteins for assimilation is only available when you eat some meat. Otherwise, that stomach acid and pepsin enzyme goes down significantly over time...this is why most vegans will eventually need a B12 shot i stead, because at some point, even fortified foods won't help so much.
@KARENboomboomROXX
@KARENboomboomROXX 6 жыл бұрын
Vegans can become healthy, for maybe a few months if they cut out processed food... Because that's why, it's not because of the introduction of vegetables. In time however, they will deteriorate. Thank you, and good night...
@rosesavoy9035
@rosesavoy9035 6 жыл бұрын
I have to leave veganism because of salicilates intolerance. My nose had huge polyps and I had aggressive asthma all went away with low salicylate low carb diet (with no gluten, sugar or dairy).
@plutoplatters
@plutoplatters 5 жыл бұрын
I'm 100% vegan and eat meats.
@Jauhara
@Jauhara 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is really difficult for you.
@AbsalomMelchizedek
@AbsalomMelchizedek 5 жыл бұрын
So how was that pate'? Eat liver if you want to be a liver i say.
@junbug1029
@junbug1029 6 жыл бұрын
I tried for 5 days. My gut hurt so badly I quit.
@myfragilelilac
@myfragilelilac 5 жыл бұрын
How long had you been vegan when you started to experience issues.
@MsCellobass
@MsCellobass 5 жыл бұрын
As of now I am just a tad confused with how are we supposed to eat because there are a lot of ‘antinutrients’ that disrupts certain biological needs or damages. Such as nightshades and lot of the nuts. I think we should eat in moderation certain things that are now proven to be inflammatory such as certain things in a salad.
@matinr3528
@matinr3528 6 жыл бұрын
Hope you get your health back. I believe many of your problems that you are mentioning are due to your vitamin deficiency as well as anxiety. Sorry to hear that you cannot be vegan as you wish. Veganism doesn't work for everyone but at least you can help the cause by consuming less animal products
@suziezurfreiheit6825
@suziezurfreiheit6825 6 жыл бұрын
Matin R I appreciate sane and encouraging comments like yours 👍
@fishchicken4188
@fishchicken4188 2 жыл бұрын
Veganism is a good diet but should not be long term if you wish to get the benefits of such diet therefore it should be done but just take breaks in between.
@mirandarota4032
@mirandarota4032 6 жыл бұрын
Hope you are going to do an update soon as to how you are ...vegan diet for so many of us didn't turn out well so we really understand you.
@samwil6234
@samwil6234 6 жыл бұрын
How r u feeling now. Is been couple months since this video
@TeresaO-PHD-Coach
@TeresaO-PHD-Coach 2 жыл бұрын
Cults will never support whats best for you. Their way is the ONLY way. I believed the lie too and what I was told would heal me, made me sicker. I wish you nothing but good health ♥
@benzo80o.c82
@benzo80o.c82 6 жыл бұрын
Just get your health back..that's the most important thing for you..whatever it takes..and goodluck.hope u feel better soon.
@donnanichols6938
@donnanichols6938 5 жыл бұрын
Today 1/16/19 I went to the store though i was weak an started a Keto diet. I did not want to leave my vegan diet because I have always loved salads at beans and vegetables. My health has forced me back. I was hospitalized in July with a hemoglobin of 7. They said it had nothing to do with being vegan which makes sense but then a year later I ended up with thyroid issues and you talking about depression and anxiety the week muscles in my legs.. I will just come back I'm finished my comment. I had a huge salad and I made some albacore tuna fish because I can't get too overwhelmed oh and I did have an avocado as well it was all delicious. It's going to be hard to cut the sugar, the carbs and the beans a lot of my fruits but my health is at stake. To you doing this video go ahead and start eating a balanced diet and I guarantee you your cut will get better you didn't get like this overnight and you won't heal overnight give it some time and quit worrying because that makes your anziety worse. I have always had panic attacks and I've been on medicine but at the end I was coming even on the medicine and that's never happened so I said it's time I give it my best shot. I know what you mean you feel betrayed but look just let all that go just focus on you and get better and then you deal with the rest later.. you take care of yourself and stay in the comments section so you can let people know how you're doing I'll make another video I'd love to hear.Oh Im doing Keto.My B-12 was fine.
@materidouska286
@materidouska286 6 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the dark side :-) It is great you are learning, main stream recommendations are a bunch of crap. What they do is intentional demonization of fats, read meat, cholesterol etc. It depends on how much stored nutrients you managed to gather prior your veganism, some people get depleted and break after a year, some after 10 of veganism ... go figure. Mental health is at stake too, you need animal fats for your brain. It is angoing theme with e-vegans : mental issues, physical decline, stomach issues, some turned out diabetic too.
@m.e.visser4976
@m.e.visser4976 5 жыл бұрын
Hello darling , I was a vegetarian for a while and it didn’t agree with me. I started to get physical problems and had to start eating fish again and later on also meat. My body didn’t convert plant based nutrients in to nutrients my body could use. Omega 3 and B12 and others. Just as you, I was not pleased. Wanted to help the planet, my animal friends, etc.! My turnaround was the realisation while I was planting a eco garden, that even plant are not Vegan. They fead themselves with nutrients from dead animals. Bugs, and worms etc. The circle of life really. I’m still not a big meat eater. More eggs, some fish and yoghurt/skyr/quark. If, than I’ll make sure they had the best life. Make the best choice for yourself and do not care about others. Health is everything I found. Good luck and I hope you’ll get better soon.
@ChristinaLedl
@ChristinaLedl 6 жыл бұрын
Heal Your Gut Guy on KZbin. His advice has been amazing for my health after being vegan.
@francescabalti6320
@francescabalti6320 6 жыл бұрын
your a nice guy...sometimes i feel like shit too. but I'm telling you its the worm. i haven't gotten it out yet bc water fasting is too hard but its obvious that i have one you can hear it use its jet propulsion when you feel "hungry" bc its hungry.
@Trisherboops
@Trisherboops 6 жыл бұрын
GAPS diet is recommended in your case. Bone broth is very nourishing
@kimandreasheroy
@kimandreasheroy 6 жыл бұрын
I'm currently on an IBD-program that I got from Dr. Pamela Popper from the Wellness Forum. It's been going really well so far and it looks like I can keep on being vegan, but I will have to see how I feel about it once the program is over. I'll definitely make a video about my journey at some point ;)
@hellojimmyjimmy
@hellojimmyjimmy 6 жыл бұрын
All you have to do is chew your food till it’s liquid and all your problems will go away. And you can eat anything. Forget all these diets. You’ll eat tons less by just taking the time to chew food.
@jessesnyder5426
@jessesnyder5426 5 жыл бұрын
Please. No point to write preposterous stuff.
@nicholasruff8354
@nicholasruff8354 6 жыл бұрын
Did you get your blood tested for other vitamin deficiencies or just B12 and cholesterol? B12 is pretty easy to supplement if you're low and there's nothing inherent in animal products that your body can't get from plants. It's also a bit weird that your doctor recommended eggs specifically, which are high in saturated fat and cholesterol. My guess is that (a) You have some sort of disease unrelated to your diet or (b) your previous vegan diet wasn't nutritionally adequate. Either way, I hope you find out what's causing your health problems. It's pretty clear to me that you don't want to return to eating animal products if you don't have to so I wish you the best of luck.
@kimandreasheroy
@kimandreasheroy 6 жыл бұрын
They check for a lot of other things, not just B12 and cholesterol. I have been taking a B12 supplement for 3 years so it was weird that it was low. I have also been following the dietary recommendations from what my clinical nutritionist told me and also what the big health organizations in Norway (and global) recommend. My diet was adequate. Now that I have talked with Pamela Popper, the woman I mentioned in my video, I have got a new view on diet. The mainstream recommendations for a vegan diet are in her eyes not adequate. There should be no oil at all, and for people with IBD (like me), we should not be eating gluten or dairy. None of my specialists (colon expert, medical doctor, clinical nutritionist, etc) said anything about this. Already my pain is gone and it remains to be seen if any more good changes happen.
@bonnievandyke8301
@bonnievandyke8301 6 жыл бұрын
Saturated fats and cholesterol are not unhealthy, they're the opposite.
@christophernewby3296
@christophernewby3296 5 жыл бұрын
Man I feel really bad for this guy, I mean I get what he is saying, you can see the fear in his eyes. I want to see what people in the vegan community have to say about this video, because people will saying "Oh he was never a real vegan" and that is just messed up, because it only shows how veganism is all about identity politics and how it only causes a splintering in our society. I really hope this guy gets better and is not attacked by the vegan community because you wouldn't attack someone who is suffering or being so open and honest about their struggles so why would you attack someone solely because of what they eat. I would recommend this guy try dipping his toe into the pescitarian diet, and I say so because I have heard horror stories of vegans jumping back into animal products and suffering from nausea and vomiting. I really hope everything works out for the best and I am a meat eater and I am concerned for this guy, so let's drop the whole vegan, meat eater, murder, rapist etc... we are all humans, not animals so please, and i say this to vegans more so, let's not become soulless and hateful towards each other.
@toavm
@toavm 6 жыл бұрын
Yes there're lot of vegans suffering health issues, you're not alone. Every day there's a new story. Most are feeling better eating animal foods, some have immediate release just by trying a carnivore diet for three months. Search for such testimonials. Low total cholesterol is dangerous to your health, you have to consume dietary cholesterol.
@telepetenowheat5342
@telepetenowheat5342 6 жыл бұрын
Ulcerative colitis can only be CURED with diet. You pretty much have to do the opposite of what you have been doing. Learn about and implement a style of eating following the principals of the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, the GAPS Diet, and an ancestral-paleo template. I wish you good luck.
@motherearthh08
@motherearthh08 6 жыл бұрын
PLEASE start making and drinking bone broth EVERY DAY,3 cups a day,this golden elixer will heal you FAST😁😁😁😁👌❤️❤️❤️❤️
@motherearthh08
@motherearthh08 6 жыл бұрын
Hmmm,must be a vegan,with a comment like that🤨
@motherearthh08
@motherearthh08 6 жыл бұрын
Yup
@strikeryachts
@strikeryachts 6 жыл бұрын
Drink raw milk from grass fed cows daily.
@renewyourmind1815
@renewyourmind1815 5 жыл бұрын
After I realized the vegan crap was a lie I bought several dairy goats. Now we have raw goats milk, mmm, tasty! We raise pasture chickens & have a lot of layers.
@adamkallin5160
@adamkallin5160 6 жыл бұрын
How are you doing now, man? It's been a few months.
@Spiritof48
@Spiritof48 5 жыл бұрын
Liver pate is excellent on rye bread and a healthy amount of butter under , just go for the organic ones ( no nitrite and good animal welfare) welcome back to life ☺️👍
@francescabalti6320
@francescabalti6320 6 жыл бұрын
its also a mineral thing...
@goldenretriever1546
@goldenretriever1546 6 жыл бұрын
best choice ever, i was vean 5years
@VT-kh7uf
@VT-kh7uf 5 жыл бұрын
Welcome back to human club!
@paulacrevaux5730
@paulacrevaux5730 6 жыл бұрын
Why does it have to be the majority??
@sauce.unlocked
@sauce.unlocked 6 жыл бұрын
"Can't be proven, but is directly related to veganism" Makes sense buddy
@angelthemodernhippie3889
@angelthemodernhippie3889 6 жыл бұрын
Work with sun dan he helps ppl come back to optimal health usually staying vegan
@stephennogare
@stephennogare 5 жыл бұрын
Well? what did you do?
@kimandreasheroy
@kimandreasheroy 5 жыл бұрын
I contacted Pamela Popper at the Wellnesforum, got back on a specific vegan diet with no gluten, and got in remission :D I will make a video about this at some point but right now I don't have time.
@stephennogare
@stephennogare 5 жыл бұрын
@@kimandreasheroy Hope it works out for you. Some people can most cannot.My wife had to go back to beef. She was eating herself away. Within a week I could see the change.
@auraveenley.8743
@auraveenley.8743 6 жыл бұрын
Live abundantly
@mirandarota4032
@mirandarota4032 6 жыл бұрын
...also, how about trying raw milk?? ...even people finding things difficult to eat, start eating animal products by eating just a teaspoonful the first time and very slowly work up to more - good luck!!! :)
@jefferyorton1723
@jefferyorton1723 5 жыл бұрын
Congratulations. Welcome back to sanity and health.
@SM-jw7tm
@SM-jw7tm 6 жыл бұрын
For the sake of you mental health and physical health begin eating meat (organic or 100% grass fed and preferably beef) and cut back on the plant based foods. 90% meat to 10% plant or close to it. The meat should be cooked medium rare so not to destroy it completely with over cooking. You will notice an improvement. Animal foods will calm you and restore your health. They will heal and reline your digestive system and allow better nerve function. Eat butter, dripping, tallow and if you do eat rice or cooked vegetables add these fats to it so you can better digest such plant foods. Guilt about eating animal foods has nothing to do with it, you are more important then veganism. You can be interested in animal welfare and support better animal management yet it should not be to the detriment of your health.
@devrahul7435
@devrahul7435 3 жыл бұрын
I am vegetarian since my birth, I am healthy but you are struggling with veganism, I am not understanding. I watched many videos and they described same as you said.
@amleshamm906
@amleshamm906 6 жыл бұрын
"It s ok , at least you tried" said no vegan at all , congratulations on quitting before it gets worse , your health and live is more important then an animal`s.
@aleenr4425
@aleenr4425 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your story, it’ll help a lot of people!
@CaesarBest
@CaesarBest 6 жыл бұрын
Being alive means that you will experience suffering and you will inevitably inflict suffering on other beings, no amount of effort can prevent that. Given the chance a lion would eat your fucking face without giving it a second thought, circle of life you know.
@djtwelvetwenty2939
@djtwelvetwenty2939 5 жыл бұрын
There's also a shit load of people that have diseases that eat loads of animal products and when they eliminate them they heal. Shit happens unfortunately.
@ch.5884
@ch.5884 6 жыл бұрын
Pamela Popper us wonderful..she is not a wackadoodle..she does recommend animal products for some..she isnt militant..
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