Why I’m returning Lenovo Legion Go | Lenovo Legion Go vs Asus Rog Ally: which one is better and why

[@MGTMaxGamesTech]

The VRR can’t be replaced by any software updates. “VRR can greatly reduce screen tearing and stuttering, which can be distracting and frustrating when playing games.” For me, this is the main reason of return + bad speakers. The display has a lot of stuttering resulting generating for me and unpleasant feeling like dizziness.

[@erjoke]

only a week, and they already ask the same as asus, fanboy

[@paulojamesminimoisaac7858]

@@erjoke fanboy? anybody can have their own criticism lol, if the guy is not satisfied with the device, he has all the right pointing out its flaws, rog ally is no exception to this.

[@wozzielfc401]

​@@erjokei didn't even need to buy one . Saw the review no VRR and the audio my days suck . Got my ally and im glad I did .

[@SandyGivens-s8h]

Loving my legion go sold my ally no regrets

[@KarrionKrosshairs]

Loving my Legion Go. No stuttering or tears. Sold my steam deck. NO REGRETS AT ALL

[@metallicfyre]

This was probably the most helpful review I've seen so far. Thanks! I've been going back and forth trying to decide Ally or Go and I think I'll go with the Ally after watching this. I know a lot of comments are saying that the issues with the Go can be fixed, but I believe the average consumer (like myself) wants things to just work out of the box and not have to deep dive into settings to make a $700 purchase operational (although I know the Ally has its out-of-box issues as well).

[@LazyFaux5656]

The Ally didn’t work out of the box either, lol.

[@gulfcoaster210]

The ally has more significant issues out of the box than the go. It takes just a tiny effort in setup to make the go a significantly better experience than the ally.

[@JerwinAngelo]

Good luck navigating without the touchpad lol just use the sticks or touch screen. And oh, and if you're gonna use an SD card, just forget it. It will be toasted in no time. Worst is Asus already acknowledged this issue but won't be fixing it 😂

[@Antondepadua]

sounds like you need a steam deck OLED

[@MikuCobraCole]

Don't buy an Ally, just a friendly advice

[@KarrionKrosshairs]

Loving my Legion Go. No stuttering or tears. Sold my steam deck. NO REGRETS AT ALL

[@martindescoteaux9288]

same!!!

[@RisingLazarus]

but , whick steam deck did you have? not the oled, right?

[@ReachField]

Same for me perfect

[@martindescoteaux9288]

@@RisingLazarus exact, not the oled... But for me it is the size of the screen.

[@KarrionKrosshairs]

@@RisingLazarusI had the OG steam deck. Pre order edition. The OLED is a little too late in my book. It should’ve been what we got on day 1. After playing games on the legion go I just can’t go back to the smaller screen anymore. I think people are underestimating the benefit of having a 8.8 inch screen on a handheld after playing on a 7 inch screen for over a year now.

[@MetalistCore24]

There’s updates coming yall be patient with this beautiful device.

[@TheHipClip]

This video seems awfully biased. I'd have no problems with it, if you gave your reasoning for returning the Legion, but your premature judgement on which product is objectively better is laughable. 1. Comparing a tech product on software maturity, when one has just released and the other had 3 months of updates, is not fair. Give the Legion Go three months for parity. 2. Yes the Ally has quieter fans, but at least the Go doesn't fry SD cards. Again, through software updates adjusted fan curves could give a more quiet experience. 3. The higher resolution of the display and the ability to take off the controllers make it the perfect multi-media device. Want a tablet, you got it. Want to game, perfect. Hook up a Bluetooth keyboard, now you can use it everywhere for work without looking like a gamer. No one is forcing you to use the maximum resolution for gaming, but you can definitely use it for media content. 4. The Steam Deck also doesn't have VRR and no one's complaining there.

[@lau5924]

Why u crying legoboy? Rog ally and lego go have the same price point, sd is way cheaper than that thats why no one is complaining about vrr, stop crying okay

[@Shaunymac10]

Legion go has had 5 months to perfect their product over their competition lol so that argument is flawed, the sd cards dont fry if you set the manual fan curve, keep its tempreture to below 60.C with ease which also is still quieter then the legion go, even if the fans do go loud the speakers go louder then the legion go. The joysticks may detach but they also have shite dead zones and wobble like fk you sound like youre simping hard for the legion go 🤣🤣🤣 cope boy

[@m4x_payn3_enjoyer]

@@Shaunymac10 Going by your logic the Ally had 14 months (since the steam deck released) to "perfect their product over thier competition" and it still was in a horrible state upon its launch.

[@evp159]

@@Shaunymac10 so why was the ally shit at launch? They also had time. Yall have no problem sounding biased and dumb

[@yousifalazzawi9812]

How honest and sincere you are, I respect you

[@LCrossJr]

Thanks for sharing your comments. I have been on the fence, and I was waiting for your further review before finalizing my decision. At this point, I will stay with my ROG Ally at this stage and wait for the next generation of handhelds with my powerful chips

[@beyondtheads]

the next gen of chips will come with the next gen of games, so the same problem will occur every single year

[@twothumbs8925]

Don't be fooled by the size difference of the Rog Ally. Trust me, it is plenty big for a handheld, and the audio on the Ally is awesome.

[@thegame8112]

Man I was waiting for you to make a video like this XD, I have seen other youtubers giving their reason and when I saw you were posting less and less of the legion go I just said "Damn, I think he will make a video about returning the legion go" and here we are.

[@MGTMaxGamesTech]

Sadly, it’s not what I hoped to be. For me the experience was awful. The screen is impressive, but once you play in it, it’s a nightmare. I feel dizziness from it. I tried 2 Legion Go devices. Same experience.

[@EdTzani97]

@@MGTMaxGamesTech VRR does made a difference

[@Mmjgamer82]

So future optimizations and updates wouldn’t improve the legion go?🧐 It happened with Steam Deck, It happened with Asus Rog Ally, why not legion go? Looks like you might have to alter a few settings etc because I don’t have those issues and was considering taking the Rog Ally back for the 2nd time😵‍💫 But to each its own.🍀

[@MGTMaxGamesTech]

The VRR can’t be replaced by any software updates. “VRR can greatly reduce screen tearing and stuttering, which can be distracting and frustrating when playing games.” For me, this is the main reason of return + bad speakers. The display has a lot of stuttering resulting generating for me and unpleasant feeling like dizziness.

[@erjoke]

They forget what happened with Steam and Asus in a week

[@paulojamesminimoisaac7858]

@@erjoke yea but VRR is hardware and software not software only.

[@wozzielfc401]

@@erjoke mate VRR if you are a pc gamer you definently buy any screen with Gysnc etc . You can defend it as much as you want but you will be using Vsync on games with Go that needs it and thats ancient.

[@CandysChannel]

@@MGTMaxGamesTechOthers have NOT experienced all of your issues. Some have great game playing so I think you might have a defective model. There are huge updates coming plus a roadmap from Lenovo

[@pawelp3593]

Probably Lenovo rush this product and more optimization and drivers are needed thats all. Remember that Ally have lots of issues and many returns. Im loving my steamdeck as couldn't cope with windows on small screen.

[@MadDarthMatt]

That game you are playing is running nowhere near 30ps on the Go, let alone 60, so I don't know why you expect it to be smooth. From what I've experienced and all the videos I have seen in direct comparisons show the Go beating the Ally by 5-10fps in like settings. I think you're doing something wrong. I had the Ally and had to have one replaced because the sd card slot. I was so afraid of it happening again I had the fans pretty much full on again. The vrr definitely helps on the Ally, but once I got the settings dialed in, I was surprised how smooth the display could be without vrr. Also, I've seen a Legion Go update forecast from Lenovo which shows the timeline of when they think software issues will be addressed. For example they are releasing the new graphics driver next week.

[@KarrionKrosshairs]

The only issue that I have with my legion go is the legion space app and the analog stick deadzones. The lack of VRR is not noticeable in my opinion.

[@absurdh3ro]

Same I just figured out what deadzone is playing any fps with the controller

[@i_am_kayode]

you can adjust the DZ btw

[@TheTekEffect]

My lenovo legion is running flawlessly, especially after i tweked it.

[@LOOTLORD605]

Asus ally on the way,cant wait! Bought for half price opened box.

[@MGTMaxGamesTech]

The best choice. Have fun with it!

[@LOOTLORD605]

@@MGTMaxGamesTech thanks!😘👍

[@samserious1337]

Open-Box is a used item though, probably due to problems with the device.

[@LOOTLORD605]

@@samserious1337 It is, Everything is like new. SD slot working as intended clean and no issues,and if theres problems wouldnt bought it in the first place. Good luck sons.

[@samserious1337]

@@LOOTLORD605 Good for you, enjoy your ally, I'm satisfied with it too. Currently even the new price is hard to beat!

[@mohammed-pl8zt]

The rog ally keeps surprising me , amazing device

[@TheRedDevil-7-]

Brother it’s way too early for u to make this vid. When the rog ally released armory crate was a buggy mess + performance was way worse due to the bad bios. The legion go hasn’t even got a month for them to sort it out. Also VRR shouldn’t cause what u just showedw with mafia 3. A software optimization should fix that. Most of our displays never had vrr it’s like a 2 year old technology. It’s meant to reduce screen tearing - nothing to do with smoothness. So u should give it a few months so u can have a fair comparison.

[@Hateverything]

I see all "reviewers" have no idea wtf they're talking about. LLG has a dedicated updates section in control panel, which you can also shortcut on the desktop.

[@Moby41]

Was about to buy the Legion Go until I found out it lacks VRR. Absolute deal breaker.

[@tajones7905]

I haven't found any instance where not having VRR has stopped me from enjoying my legion go, and I also have the ROG Ally and the Steam Deck OLED

[@evp159]

Its not that serious haven't had any problems

[@rwiley71483]

I am convinced Valve is paying most KZbinrs for the overly positive praise for the Deck Oled and HATE for the Legion Go. This may not apply to you, but, I definitely think it is the majority. The full potential of the Go is literally around the corner via a few more software updates. Once it does and that disparity becomes undeniable, watch the goal post move again and the paradigm shift. Heard it here first.

[@MarioCosta-l6s]

Good words

[@erjoke]

I think the same, there is a lot of hatred for Lenovo

[@son0fsocal]

Yup, somehow the ROG ALLY became public enemy #1 in the gaming world.I absolutely love mine, I did not let KZbinrs sway me, the ALLY has an LCD screen but looks like an OLED, and is an overall better device.

[@Shaunymac10]

Yeah but youre even denying its greatness lmao cope boy

[@m4x_payn3_enjoyer]

@@son0fsocal The Ally's screen color accuracy is literally lower then the LeGo's

[@frooglepete]

Awesome video as always sir. I started watching your channel a while back for the SteamDeck vids. I now have other handheld consoles but still subscribe and watch your channel all the time. Love the content.

[@TotallyAwesome315]

I haven't experienced any stuttering or screen tearing on my Legion Go. I went through 3 ROG Allys, and each one was returned because it fried my SD card. Replacing SD cards can get pricey and because of this I've lost all interest in the Ally. Other than that it worked great. But I am enjoying my Legion Go so much more overall.

[@rushmore3927]

The Ally issue is fixed now. When is Lenovo fixing the disconnecting usbc? Not a random issue. Best Buy is getting returns like the Ally. The Go is currently worthless connected to storage and appears to be a hardware issue. Seems the least of evils is a non working sd, rather than a flaky usbc connection.

[@gulfcoaster210]

@@rushmore3927 the disconnecting usb c was addressed with the first bios update. The ally isn’t fixed it was just slightly band-aided by speeding up the fan in an attempt to better cool the dd card. They r still failing left right and center from what I’ve seen on Reddit. I am soooo glad I didn’t keep my ally and went with the go. With 30 minutes of effort the experience with the go is markedly better than the ally is pretty much every other way.

[@MikuCobraCole]

​​@@rushmore3927that's false, they had to refund me because my ally would still burn my sd cards, they will replace the motherboard but the problem it's still present to this day, you can't fix the sd reader without redesigning the whole thing, don't spread misinformation.

[@retroconsole_]

That's odd. I've had Ally for weeks now and no problem with an SD card.

[@MikuCobraCole]

@@retroconsole_ it's well known that Asus Rog Ally has burned and still burns SD cards, there are no exceptions.

[@mark8200]

I have both and prefer the ally for many reasons, thats just my 2 cents do what makes you happy

[@youaremeIam]

Yeah im returning mine. After all possible updates and comparison to my asus rog im more comfortable physically and mentally with it. If you dont have one of these purchase both and compare them and return the one you are just not comfortable as much with. Get physical with both its worth it.

[@popunkid]

I have the big 3. Steam Deck OLED really is the best, but I also do love my Ally. I'll say this: The reason the OLED wins is battery life; both the Ally and GO suck for battery so bad, it's really hard to call them handheld gaming machines. They can't last an hour...an HOUR with full FTP and that's just pathetic IMO.

[@FastRCToys]

I have both and I will keep both. Have fun !

[@tonyvenditto7687]

the screen is a good screen but what's the point in having the 144 Hz if you can't max it out because the thing can't handle itwhat's the point advertising it at 1600 P if I can't even do that that sounds stupid

[@evp159]

multi media maybe smaller games. Took me less than 10 seconds to figure that out ....tuff

[@fangytasuki]

Legion Go fan sound was not that bad under normal use, then again I am a laptop gamer and we use to fan noise, but I ended up returning mine due to compatiblity issues with the portrait mode. Some games just did not want to work right. I loved the touchpad on the Legion Go because it was so much easier to install everything. Asus Rog was god aweful experience, and it would of been worse if I didn't have a dock. All that said, I would go Asus Rog due to my own personal needs, but the sd card issues has me worried.

[@saiyanraoh5109]

I have the perfect team. The ROG Ally and the Steam Deck (OLED coming Wed and I can't wait!) The Ally plays the AAA games the Steam deck has trouble with and the Deck plays everything else.

[@therealness775]

​@@GamingSinceThe70s-pq9stwhy not just play new and old games on the ally. The ally does emulation great. It just takes a bit to get used to. Ounce everything is setup you are good to go. 👍

[@celcpf4545]

For me here its very hard to pick one due to absurd cost Legion go, USD $850+ for 512GB ROG Ally , USD $720+ for 512GB Z1 Extreme im really considering ally for the cost and features (speaker, VRR, size) but i like the bigger screen and legion go improvements too im really torn. if only the pricing was the same here like the U.S. it wont really be a dilemman for me. ill pick legion go

[@BernardBrunu1]

Legion go is 300$ right now

[@KashKatana]

From where?@@BernardBrunu1

[@BernardBrunu1]

@@KashKatana best buy

[@piratenika]

​@@KashKatanaDon't listen to that guy he's capping hard

[@mark8200]

I have both and prefer the ally, that's just my 2 cents do what makes you happy

[@kalioude]

Obviously your legion go have a problem, that's not what i have seen elsewhere, maybe try rma

[@MGTMaxGamesTech]

I tried 2 devices. Same experience. The display is the problem.

[@ktils]

I don't understand problems with Rog Ally and keep it. But issues with Legion send it back? Hmmm

[@davidostar]

Wait for updates for legion Go and do more adjustements, VRR is not importent on légion go , you do not have screen tearing....

[@chrisdsx6839]

Go into the power settings and set the cpu to 99% max and the cpu will never go into turbo fan mode... Those small screens are great at 720p. Less is more.

[@Combat88]

Same Problems with the Legion Go - Stuttering like hell. I think got something to do with VRR and the native Res of the Go. Sure there is a solution but i dont have the nerve to figure out. The Ally is the better overall Product for me.

[@BK-sx5ps]

great unbiased review. I have both atm too, very sensible takes

[@rafaelmendoza7357]

Too early to compare them. Come back in 6 months and see which is better

[@nickydee569]

It'll still be 1.88 pounds and it'll still have the annoying buttons on the back of the controllers

[@erjoke]

Steam deck no vrr

[@AKart163]

6 month later rog ally 2 released

[@Shaunymac10]

Legion go has had 6 months more to perfect their product this argument doesnt work

[@usbmannam]

I don't think the comparison is fair with a lot of the complaints being software that asus needed 6 months to update and optimize. As for mafia, you are playing on 1200p on the go and 1080 on the ally. Which is not an equal comparison. But what you are right in is that if you want the best windows handheld right now, then the ally is the winner for sure. But I really think that the GO will be the better system once they optimize their software and add a lot of the features you are talking about. Minus the VRR of course :) by that time, the ally 2 might be out so there is that too.

[@SetTheCaptivesFree4797]

I’m camping right now with the legion, this beast lasted nearly 4 hours on one charge ! 🤩

[@NOMOREDEI]

It's called outdated drivers bro. Be patient they're fixing it

[@MGTMaxGamesTech]

It’s called bad hardware display

[@HadesRS4]

@@MGTMaxGamesTechbad display. Lol ok 😂😂

[@MGTMaxGamesTech]

The VRR can’t be replaced by any software updates. “VRR can greatly reduce screen tearing and stuttering, which can be distracting and frustrating when playing games.” For me, this is the main reason of return + bad speakers. The display has a lot of stuttering resulting generating for me and unpleasant feeling like dizziness.

[@MarioCosta-l6s]

@@MGTMaxGamesTech its called fanboy, u need glasses

[@HadesRS4]

@@MGTMaxGamesTechonly thing I agree with what you said is the speakers being bad. That's due to them not being forward facing like the ally. The controllers remove so putting the speakers in place good luck. Everything else you're having issues with is drivers as the specs are near identical. Seems like you have a bias. My .02 as other videos shows way different performance than yours

[@V3ntilator]

Legion Go the only PC handheld i wanted, it works perfect for me. I have two gaming PC's with VRR, so i don't care about that on a handheld. Most games i play on Lenovo don't even need VRR.

[@Jacob-rr3bz]

The Legion GO does not stop improving with updates. Keep in mind that there is a lot to configure, you can play perfectly at 1600p using FSR and with FSR 3.0 you would be surprised by the result.

[@SteamSurge]

my experience has been absolutely amazing on the GO!

[@MikuCobraCole]

As I said before, all that matters is having fun, however, I don't get why Ally users are so damn toxic, you can see plenty of people on KZbin channels comparing his toy against Steam Deck arguing with huge power, now that Lenovo Legion Go it's as powerful and has better battery life (something important for a handheld) now the problem it's the damn speakers or vrr, but they don't talk about Asus support or burned micro SD cards. I got my Ally refunded and got a Steam Deck mainly because I travel a lot and some powerbanks are not allowed on planes. If I was going to spend 800$ I would go with the Lenovo Legion Go without a doubt, yeah VRR is cool, great sound too but the tweaks you have to do to have a good experience, the damn bios, battery... Doesn't make me wanna buy again a product for them, and even wasting the same amount of money as the Lenovo Legion Go, they don't include a case, come on people, I know that some games looks awesome on the Ally but you can't argue me that returning Lenovo just for the speakers it's justified, it's not a single month since it's release, I'm sure that they're working to tweak things up, you have to be stupd or low on cash 😐

[@jinx20001]

Its a little unfair to compare fans in this way since the ally does not boost the fans until the system is under load, As an ally user I can say the fans do get pretty loud under load, as soon as you put load on the system in fact Asus locks the fan 1 speed to 70 percent as a solution for the SD card issue. For sure it looks like the legion go fan is crazy though, even with no load that thing goes crazy. For me all the windows handhelds are unrefined though, I’ve been using an ally for 6 months and have left my deck on the shelf and yes gaming on the ally was better, but not because it’s more powerful but because it’s a better visual experience. The reality with these windows handhelds is yes they are more powerful but they are not powerful enough, AAA games still struggle, you still need to reduce resolution much of the time, still need to reduce settings and the trade off to having that extra performance is you get more noise, more heat and less battery. Indie games are what shine on all these handhelds and for that reason I’ve decided to drop the ally, ignore the legion go and just order a OLED deck, when playing the games that really shine on these handhelds the deck is still king, way better software, better community support within steam itself, custom control schemes etc, much better efficiency so games like dead cells for example can play at stupid low wattage that windows handhelds just can’t reach and stay stable so you get much better battery life and less heat and noise…. Then valve dropped the OLED… improving almost all the deck downsides lol I just dont see why I should keep the ally, the software has improved but it’s still tacked on like all windows handhelds, it still has issues like keyboard pop up blocking things on screen, armoury crate responding slowly at times, no small details like battery life expectations etc, they are just so unrefined, valve really just know what they are doing. If I had a choice between ally and legion go I would probably choose the legion go but after seeing all the issues like dead zones and that fan, jeez, the windows devices just dont have that magic do they.

[@InitialFailure]

When playing undemanding games, the Deck is the best option* Enjoy them side-scrolling indie titles?

[@jinx20001]

@@InitialFailure yup I do enjoy them, hollow knight is great, ori is great, games like hades are great, rimworld is great, virtual pool 4 awesome in handheld, persona 5 awesome in handheld… the list of amazing indie games is nuts and they run amazing on handhelds… So while people struggle to play Alan wake 2 and cyberpunk on a deck or ally at toilet settings I’ll play those games on my 4090 pc and all the games I ignore on my pc like those above I’ll play on handhelds. There is no “best option” for AAA games in the handheld space because every handheld on the market today struggles with them, low settings, low resolution, low framerate… the 7840u/z1 extreme are not powerful by any stretch of the imagination, they get floor wiped by most cheap laptops so for me… if you are realistic with what you play on handhelds you can have an amazing experience… or you can go toilet settings in AAA games and pretend it’s amazing to be getting 40fps.

[@InitialFailure]

@jinx20001 it IS amazing to be getting 40 FPS on a AAA title on a handheld regardless of settings. It IS underwhelming to get a mobile game (indie side scrollers) to run on a Deck. To each their own, my friend. You do seem to be more obsessed with maxing out settings for the sake of making out settings rather than playing games. We have a 4090 mentioned but nothing about the rest of the build, using a Deck to play mobile games but poo pooing Ally/Go. Ever see Flashgitz PC Master race? It might feel like a personal documentary to you. Edit: I missed Persona being "indie" to you, lol. Stretch before you make that reach or count Cyberpunk2077 in, too 😀

[@jinx20001]

@@InitialFailure well obviously we have different standards on what is amazing. I don’t think 40fps at 720p low settings is amazing. A game being a side scroller does not make it a mobile game, many of which a purpose built for pc/console gaming, you equate mobile gaming with visuals alone clearly but then say it’s amazing that AAA games running at 40fps is amazing knowing full well you have to degrade setting quality most of the time to get there… settings mind you that are so low they would likely work on a modern mobile phone, how ironic. I also find it ironic that you say it is ME obsessed with maxing out settings rather than playing games when I am the one advocating for indie titles here while you “poo poo” them off because you believe they are mobile game rubbish… so clearly it is you that does not play games and focuses on AAA trash only, and thats what the AAA gaming space is… trash, go back to enjoying modern warfare 3. And I mentioned persona not because it’s an indie game but because it’s clearly a stylised game not focused on looking the best it can be… a similar game would be sifu… both of which run amazing on handheld. Indie covers much more than “side scrolling” lol Also I’m certainly not shitting on the rog ally here… I own one, what I am doing is pointing out that AAA games are clearly not designed with weak mobile hardware in mind and that is what handheld hardware is today, it’s categorically weak… it’s the best we have ever had absolutely and it’s amazing we can play any game we want on them… it’s a leap over mobile gaming of yesteryear when the psvita had to have games specifically made for it as it couldn’t run the full game of that day… so yeh, it’s all great I’m just saying there is more to it than power, way more to it.

[@InitialFailure]

@@jinx20001 yea, it's ironic that you aren't amazed to see a AAA title run at 720, 40 FPS on a handheld-again, a hand held, yet are enamored to play what could have come out 20 years ago and see that as a feat. Yes, that is ironic. Yes, side scroller indies can be played very easily on cellphones as they have no issues running on a Retroid Pocket that is effectively an android device, i.e., a cellphone. You mentioned Persona because you needed to strengthen your argument beyond a 2D sidescroller but forgot that Atlus is as "indie" as CDPR. Gotta be careful and not hurt yourself when you make such reaches. I guess my question is, why doesn't a AAA game running on a handheld not fascinate you? Is it because it's too mainstream now? Did you get the Deck "before it was cool"? I'm not trying to sound mean, your argument just doesn't make any sense.

[@ultimateanubis9888]

ARE YOU USING THE SAME CHARGER ?. BECAUSE I HAVE IT AND IT DOESNT DISCHARGE LIKE YOU SAY TRY TO CHANGE THE CHARGER

[@PandorusFightStick]

mine works great!! and got rid of my ally. have no stuttering or screen tear and smooth as butter . it does need work on software side but has so much potential. have games running well at 1200p . i would factory reset and start over again

[@BroadbandLink]

Hi. I gotta ask you. I'm debaiting this myself. I got a rog ally recently for 600. I can return it still. Is the legion go worth the extra 100? I'd love your opinion thx 😊 🙏

[@PandorusFightStick]

@@BroadbandLink the ally now is really good but when it first came out was horrible. they have done some great updates, and LLG will have to go through this too. i also run the games at 36, 72fps which helps to keep things smooth. yes vrr cant be replicated in software but i can see stuff now on the screen without having it so close ,and i have good vision, dont wear glasses just yet lol

[@BroadbandLink]

@PandorusFightStick thx for the feed back. I love the ally but ya the screen is kinds small. I want it to be a couch gamer and emulation station. I already have pc and laptop but a handheld is just op af. My situation rog is 600 vs LLG is closer to 850 (in germany atm) so it costs more to ship or buy locally. That's why I'm wondering if it's worth the extra cost. But a bigger screen would be nice. 🤔

[@PandorusFightStick]

@@BroadbandLink yeah really like my ally once it had a few updates, but it friend my sd card and was given a voucher so purchased to go, dont have any regrets so far. hopefully they can roll out some updates soon

[@stephenkecha9593]

you ve made the right choice right now rog ally is be far the best handheld on the market VRR is a game change! its provide the smother experience and the speakers are of the best quality and they are positioned in the right place for better hearing! double fan also made big difference in cooling and lower noise... as for the memory if you watch tutorials you can lower considerably the timings (15-12-12) in order to have slightly better frames and lower loading times

[@Shaunymac10]

My ally i get 1080p high settings nearly every game and low temps 18w sometimes i can hear the fans but then i turn up the speakers and get a perfect experience.

[@charlierose1708]

I refuse to buy any handheld without VRR its a must have for these underpowered systems where the framerates fluctuate so much. 🤷

[@420xerro]

Man people forgot how bad the ally way before 6 months of patches...

[@sandeepp274]

it's all about the asug rog ally vrr hell yeah future is here!

[@KarrionKrosshairs]

1280 x 800 res and high settings in performance mode is the sweet spot for me

[@MGTMaxGamesTech]

800p on this large display looks very bad. On smaller screens, indeed, it looks great, but on bigger screens, definitely no.

[@SetTheCaptivesFree4797]

@@MGTMaxGamesTech no way ! It looks amazing 800p on go. And I’m picky when it comes to resolution. Also the battery lasts way longer than ally

[@KarrionKrosshairs]

@@MGTMaxGamesTechokestgamer has a really good optimization video on his channel. 1280 x 800 looks great on this screen on med to high graphic settings. It looks basically the same as my OG Steam Deck. It helps with the battery life as well.

[@Londonbridge978]

Did you try changing vram to 4GB?

[@MrSouljah4]

I did extensive research on both handhelds before making purchase and I found that based on performance and screen quality I chose to go with ROG Ally. Better deal for quality and performance and it's all around a more solid machine which in my opinion the ROG Ally has a more solid build.

[@MunteanuAdrianXD]

With that resolution? Better than lggo? Be serious

[@MrSouljah4]

@@MunteanuAdrianXD Dead ass bro. The RoG Ally has better FPS and better performance. Do the research....

[@MunteanuAdrianXD]

@@MrSouljah4 that screen is to little for me..I have steamdeck and I want something bigger, not for me ally

[@MrSouljah4]

@MunteanuAdrianXD I hear ya but keep in mind size matters. Deffinitely research the top 3 games you play to see how they perform on a bigger screen. You'll be surprised how much quality you lose...

[@sharlatandjaul3739]

No VRR ? You just have to lock your fps for a great experience 144hz ? You can lock 36-48-72 fps or 60hz you can lock 30 fps or 60

[@lau5924]

Bought a 144hz handheld just to lock in 30 /60 fps, muhahahaha can you read ur own comment again, sounds hella funny

[@leilavergerius9223]

@@lau5924 you killed him

[@Yorcen]

Lenovo didn’t seem at the highest power mode during game test. ROG Ally also looks in slow motion when the power is set to 10w.

[@LividAardvark3911]

Every thing that was listed was Software and not only that but every thing that was mentioned was listed as being addressed by the end of January... ROG Ally has like 6 months of software headstart it's working with. Ofc the feature set won't be the same. The only hardware thing listed was VRR and that's more or less preference.

[@beyondthedetails]

VRR is more or less preference? Man, some of you are either very uniformed or trying to make a narrative.

[@ajharris1984]

The Legion Go is having issues now just like the Ally and steam deck had. Then after patches and updates those devices work very well. The same will most likely b true for the Legion Go. All 3have a place together

[@davelee1935]

Love ya vids mate . Question I own a Steam deck . If I buy an Ally that’s on a Black Friday special will the performance be much better ?

[@MGTMaxGamesTech]

Definitely a lot better than Steam Deck.

[@shattia]

I sole my deck after betting the Ally. Perfomances are Miles ahead. Beware that battery life id absymal on the Ally

[@santevaldez1750]

You helped me a lot man on which handheld console to buy. Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@MadBlazer89]

From all the videos I've seen so far the biggest problems and deal brakers (for me at least) are: lack of VRR, the display is by default in portrait mode, it's quite big and heavy, controllers can be wobbly and loose depending on the unit you have, button placement is infuriating...you can't hold the console properly without accidentally pressing a button somewhere that opens/closes/messes up something.

[@L3v3F4l4stin4]

The Ally is about 6 mths or so and still having some issues. It's not like the day it was sold, everything works out of the box. How long was the Legion Go released?

[@shingobingo490]

Every Lenovo legion go video I saw from you had very heavy stutter(mini freezes constantly) that I actually decided to not get one. I was really heavily debating getting one even though I had an Ally because of the screen size but it just looks like it has too many issues at the moment. Hopefully Asus releases a bigger screen unit when more powerful chips are on the market

[@NOMOREDEI]

Driver issues. It'll get fixed

[@MGTMaxGamesTech]

It’s the bad display choice, not a driver issue, in my opinion.

[@wozzielfc401]

​@@NOMOREDEIthats not what you want when you buy one right ? Not an excuse . Your competing with other handhelds and it should of been polished alot more than what it is

[@CandysChannel]

@@MGTMaxGamesTechit IS a driver issue. The Go even 4 weeks from now will be in a better place

[@beyondthedetails]

@@CandysChannel The Ally upon release did not have this lackluster performance. ROG/Asus have experience with gaming in general.. Lenovo? Even their gaming laptops are meh.

[@zork219]

1200p require more RAM, no surprises here. I watched you play many games at 720p on Ally, now suddenly you're upset that it can't run smoothly at 1200p on the same hardware?

[@jocg9168]

Mmmm what number are the unity with replaced motherboard and fix SD card? So if I buy I don't get old version where the SD is just broked. I tried one but did worked. But if they fix that maybe.

[@archie7288]

Are you already ordering steam deck Oled bro?

[@lamo75425]

was the power button red when you tested does games because it looked like you were on auto

[@steve192597]

user error

[@Yorcen]

You had to ignore CoD’s driver warning. I’m receiving it on my ROG Ally from time to time. That driver is not for Z1. CoD is just considering your device as a regular pc.

[@mdfarhan9057]

Bro I don’t think Lenevo is that bad. Steam deck and ally had much nore issues when they came out. Just wait a bit maybe

[@sammybosak10]

No way ally was more stable than lenovo legion go but still buggy af.

[@FlipTheFlapjack]

The only bummer i have on the legion is the analog sticks are, well, not great. The deadzones are larger than should be.. so large that if i try i can wiggle the stick up, down, left and right, and get ZERO response on screen. im talking measurable centimeters in deadzone. I have a gaming laptop i use for competitive fps games, i bought a handheld pc expecting to be a able to comfortably play casual fps in bed, now im debating getting a lap pad to play with lenovo fps mode in bed?? Not great. I wont say its bad.. but these sticks need work asap and it seems like it wont be fixed by the 11/30 update. Im too lazy to return it 😂 bestbuy gave me till january so maybe if I dont adjust then ill switch to the ally.. my laptop is ROG so i know they do good. The big lenovo screen was deffinatly an attention grabber, hope optimization comes soon cuz i want to like it more than I currently do

[@iceprincenygel]

Based on the arguments you mentioned. Legion Go just needs some tweakings its very much the same processor as Ally. Its not like it cannot be fixed IMO.

[@MGTMaxGamesTech]

The display is the problem. It can’t be fixed.

[@iceprincenygel]

@MGTMaxGamesTech that's a gorgeous 8 inch display what's wrong with it?

[@Joeybatz33]

ROG ALLY ❤️

[@ionika251]

i have both but Asus dissapointend me crashing 2 mictoSD cards so i have to return it and goin to take money back, an Legion Go i have not even singel ptoblem, COD work great and not even....the fact that Rog Ally is a little bit optimized is true but don't forget that LLG have one month since apeared and still have a lot time to be optimized...but choice is for anyone, both are great devices with minus and plus any..🙂

[@zork219]

As expected Legion Go is mass production device, designed to be produced in millions, with costs being cut at every corner. But this is what you get when you buy non-premium device. You want better experience? You'll have to buy Aya Neo Kun for 1700$ For me personally Rog Ally screen is way to small, i play games on 8 inch A1 Pro. And probably going to sell Rog, as i don't use it any more

[@Shaunymac10]

You must have never owned a psp/gameboy/ds if you struggle that much with a small screen lol, welcome to gaming newbie.

[@zork219]

​@@Shaunymac10I don't struggle, you probably answered to wrong comment

[@hellzdmk]

Can you check what the FPS is for the Legion Go and ALLY ? It doesnt seem like a VRR fix as the FPS shown for the go seems way too low 😅

[@davidostar]

Only inconveniant of the légion go is sound quality, ventilation is much better on légion go ! check your températures in games ! 95°C on rog ally vs 70°C on légion go ! set your fan curve manualy ....

[@firstclaims30]

95c ?? I never hit that high on my ally and I’ve tried playing hundreds of games. My ally is on average around 70

[@davidostar]

@@firstclaims30 90+ at 30 watts ! on ally, 70 on legion go

[@241troystreet]

Where did you get the stick on mount to hold the asus ally upright?

[@antonioluna284]

Try Esty they usually have some.

[@rushmore3927]

Lenovo needs to fix the USBC disconnecting. Almost useless for desktop mode.

[@MGTMaxGamesTech]

Yes, that is another Huge problem. I’m glad you mentioned about it. Randomly, after a few minutes in general, Legion Go keeps disconnecting / reconnecting the external storage from usbC port.

[@pete9009]

I've played the go for over a week and not had any issues

[@DJCJ999]

Seems like a massive lack of optimisation on the Go… which shouldn’t be an issue… but that’s on Lenovo…

[@antonioluna284]

I’m looking to get into the handheld market. My only problem is I can’t decide because I see all the reviews on the. ROG ALLY and then I see people talking bad about the Lenovo Legion go

[@TheAldo32]

The only bad thing about the lenovo legion go is the bad joystick deadzone and probably the worst of all. I hope they understand and realise an update asap

[@lucasperi2197]

Apparently they will be releasing an update at the end of the month addressing the dead zones

[@jgbelmont]

Go just came out give it some time. All of what you are talking about can be and is currently being fixed.

[@trukuntrytv8604]

My Diablo 4 doesn’t play on my legion go. Any solution on how to get it to play on my device

[@steliosvestarchis1538]

Good day Max from Greece... I already have Rog Ally since August i am completely satisfied with it, had no issues until now...but i want to buy something more to add to my collection... I am stuck between Legion go and oled steam deck...I have witnessed the difference between an lcd panel and an oled one in a nintendo switch (since i own all 3 nintendo switch-es) Regards, Stelios

[@overoula]

gia sou man. stelios edw...apo tin mera pou agorasa to legion go.. den bootara ksana to rog ally...menei gia panta sto kouti tou.. to legion go exei othonara.....den borw na paw pisw stis 7 inches tora... oled deck to parageila enoeite alla den nomizo na paiksw kai tpt se ayto ektos apo emulators....opws den paizw pia games sta lcd deck pou exw..... oraia othoni to oled kalyterh bataria alla tha einai panta ena steam deck pou de boreis na paikseis AA games opws sto rog ally kai sto legion.....ti na s ou pw tora... na dwseis 800 euro gia legion? tha kaneis oti kaneis kai sto ally apla se megalyterh othoni..ayto einai olo...episis to rog ally einai pio eykolo pisteyw na to kouvalas eksw....gia mena aksizei...oraio mixanima..extes tou ebala kai 2tb ssd... apla thelei merika software updates akoma kai tha einai 100% perfect

[@raymakbutwithmoustache6413]

Legion Go

[@arnoldperez4344]

Im a PC gamer in my entire existence...well i have to say that vrr and gsync are the bigest evolution in gaming... i cannot play a game without these enabled...these 2 devices are windows based...hence mostly identical...maybe IM wrong but this is my thought

[@Limitbreak09]

This is gonna sound weird but when you play Mafia on GO, plug in the power cable and see if still sttuterring

[@youruberhasarrived2081]

That does sound wierd

[@2MenEQ]

There's no advantage to either device; there's only preference. I like the portability of both, but I prefer a bigger screen. Bye-Bye ROG!! BA! Also, yes...out-the-box the LEGO is half-baked, but if you have a "bakery" at home, the updating, tweaking, and tinkering is tolerable, low key enjoyable, and worth being patient. Both devices have had, and have, their issues during their first six months after release. The LEGO is just starting out, the ROG has been out for five-ish months. We will see where the LEGO is at come March/April 2024. Lastly, I prefer the OEM color of my handheld gaming console to be BLACK [even though I will eventually purchase a dbrand skin or two]. Both are great devices. I wonder if both Lenovo and Asus will follow suit with Steam Deck and release a refresh in a year or so...

[@AS20509]

has it been heard all the time how Lenovo coolers work?

[@Yorcen]

Lenovo’s screen is still is a huge plus. ROG Ally’s screen is disturbingly small. It feels like PSP screen.

[@jeanfrancoisjulien8890]

I feel same has you... Need update

[@aws_exploit]

The lenovo is what i want in a handheld.i dont have one and if and when i grt one am never returning it. Would trade my Steam deck in a heartbeat

[@overoula]

i love legion.. i never ever use my ally again.....also all i say about you. skill issue

[@twindl89]

The huge advantage of ally rog is the ppi - Pixels per inch which matters for visual clarity 314 vs 250 at 1080p 😊😊 The ally rog can also upscale through the AMD app to 2160p

[@raidiwa4203]

This guy is probably stuck with his small screen ally with SD card Cooker because it's already outside the return period. No more money to buy the better Legion Go because of the ally so he is returning the legion go for refund... 😅

[@lau5924]

Lmao why u commenting u dont even have neither or those

[@Shaunymac10]

Op is still using micro sd cards 🤣🤣 goofy

[@HRD-mq8wx]

Is your system set to 4gb of ram?

[@ADDMEONPSN]

Look at those small little hands, no wonder you’re returning the Go. 🤣

[@kimalibennett9468]

What i dotn understand is why people play with unlocked unstable frame rates jusr because you hsve vrr. Why would you soemtimes want 60 sometimes more fps wheb youfsn jsut choose a frame rate the game can actually run and lock it

[@jc74435]

You should get the new Steam Deck Oled

[@TheVoyagers.]

With that poor performance? Sheesh

[@oksanasokolova9122]

At least their screen not only good on desktop but in the actual games as well

[@WRedblack]

no vrr in 2023 😢