Why I'm Returning my Thrustmaster T300 & What I'll be Getting Instead

Why I'm Returning my New Thrustmaster T300 & What I'll be Getting Instead - I just picked up a new Thrustmaster T300 Alcantara Edition and while it's such a beautiful wheel and the T300 base is great when it's working at it's fullest potential, I will be returning it. In this video I'll be using it for the first time in Gran Turismo 7 in the Daily Race B at Suzuka. I'll be discussing the problems I have had and what I will be getting instead. Will it be another belt drive wheel or will I be going direct to Direct Drive? Watch and find out!
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[@cygnuzy]

I just went through this whole journey with different wheels, at one point had the TGT ii and Fana DD Pro w/ 8nm PSU, honestly for GT7, the TGT ii feels so much better, the base actually vibrates when shifting gears, kerbs, etc, the DD pro feels empty in these scenarios and they were about equally strong. You made the right decision.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

That's really good to hear!

[@Gaming-Legends007]

I have both and agree tgt2 feels better, bought the dd pro because the power supply on the tgt 2 died so I needed another wheel while it got replaced

[@TheGheddon]

Noooooo! 😂

[@TheVVumpus]

With the Fanatec DD Pro, the additional vibrations for shifting gears, kerbs, etc are handled through the wheel and not the base. I'm using the BMW GT2 V2 rim and feel all these vibrations as long as SHO is set to 100.

[@erikgonzalez2486]

I agree but that’s what buttkickers are for

[@SongDesire]

Ive had a T300 for a long time now, never had an issue with FFB fade. I do 100% races in F1 games with it, drifting in Assetto Corsa, Rally in DR2.0 mainly. As well as some ACC and a few other titles. One of the biggest issues I tend to see from people with any wheel, is thinking the settings need to go higher and higher to get the most out of the wheel. But thats actually wrong and you end up with FFB clipping. Think of it like audio distortion. Higher isnt always better because of this, and you can end up with a muddy signal, or even a lack of sensation. You end up losing fidelity. On top of this, you end up pushing the wheel to the point the motor will over heat, plus wear down the componants faster. There is also the possibility, especially with gear driven wheels like the logitech G29/G920/G923, that you can jump the cogs and pretty much just break the wheel. As you can end up forcing things vwhen the FFB is set exxcessivly high. Even belt drive wheels it is possible to damage the belt to the point it slips. Once the wheel is physically out of alingment, its not always possible to fix it. I do belive Thrustmaster have an alignment software tool for use on the PC to recalibrate the wheels alignment, but the Logitech entry level wheels do not as far as I am aware. This is one of the reasons why direct drive wheels are so desirable in sim racing, as they are usually more powerful than the belt drive counterparts, especially the higher end DD wheels bases. This allows you to feel much more fidelity while still having the ingame settings at a reasonable level in order to avoid clipping. Since you stated you started on a T150, I think you made a misstep going for the T300 in the first place. As much as I like my T300, its not a massive leap from the T150 to it. In your shoes, I would have gone straight to one of the newer entry level Direct Drive wheels. Personally I am eyeing up the T818, purely because I am already in the TM eco system, and want my exisiting TM wheel rims to remain functional after i upgrade.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Not being able to run the settings of 4 torque and 6 sensitivity in GT7 was an issue for me. As I lowered the torque the force got a little to weak for me and felt I would need to compromise in order to keep the wheel. As far as entry level DD. The T818 unfortunately doesn't support console and I need a PS5/PC compatible wheel as my main driver.

[@SongDesire]

@The Casual Racing Gamer thats understandable. I tend not to use wheels on the console, as i prefer pc for sim racing. Mainly because of the much wider VR support. But if i had a ps5 i would be playing gt7 with my t300 for sure.

[@THESHADOW97139]

PERFECT!!! 👍🤛

[@vgaportauthority9932]

@@thecasualracinggamer I'm in the same pickle. I just play GT7 really, and the fact that the t818 still doesn't come in a PS5 version means I'm essentially just going to have to get a T-GT2.. I'm cool with it seeing as the base is supposed to be really good, but I wish Thrustmaster just dropped their PS5 DD... Probably going to hit stores the second I receive my T-GT2.

[@preyes333]

Nicee update, really interested on your TGT2 review. After the TM firmware update for the T300 my ffb settings went way down low to 3 - 1. I’ve never had FFB completely gone (knock on wood)

[@christopherpope1800]

I've had a T300 rs for about 7 years now, use it virtually every day and its flawless, doesn't even get warm. Lucky I guess as many mention the overheating. Looking to upgrade to a DD eventually but honestly dont see the need to right now, plus the ridiculous price of them at the moment .

[@rtds2024]

500 euro is ridiculous price?

[@vertachi8066]

​@@rtds2024most people who rather not spend 500 just for a wheel

[@JaySamurai79]

Have you used it on GT7. I find it really weak and weird on GT7.

[@TheLownoise]

had about 700hours on t300 in f1 2022 and asetto. i took out the fan it came with and put in a noctua 60x25mm that fits perfect in the same spot :D now i have a CSL DD , got it last week and DAYMN! day and night difference :O

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Nice upgrade. What is the hugest difference you find between the two.

[@TheLownoise]

@@thecasualracinggamer It has to be the details you get from the base it self. just incredible. and i love the 8nm motor, it just right for us who think less is to weak and more is to much. and the input response seems to me much more consistent than on a beltdriven wheel base.

[@18bagabooo]

T300 - 630 hours on gt sport, lots in gt7. Used it always on sensitivity on 10 torque at 5. Had this wheel from 2015 to 2023. Never had any issues with it. Recently I upgraded to tgt2 - I’m actually going to say - I’m not impressed. For the price difference you don’t get the same difference in ffb. Tgt2 ffb transducer is nice and gives you extra feel, but the ffb of the wheel is much smoother than the t300. And because of this smoothness it’s worse when it comes to kerbs or potholes in a rally game. This is where a geared wheel has a nicer feel makes the road feel rougher. Tgt2 makes road feel very smooth.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Yeah, gear driven wheels will feel more choppy and clicky but would a real car feel like that on dirt? Really cars on dirt I assume would still be smooth, even though the wheel would be flying around. I assume Direct Drive would even be smoother then belt drive, even on dirt.

[@henrik1743]

Tgt2 rim is also so ugly it looks like a 90s kids toy

[@SevanDonikian]

In GT7 try a FFB Torque of 6 and a FFB Sensitivity of 2 with a controller Sensitivity of 5. I found a higher sensitivity and lower torque smoothed over the minor details in GT7.

[@18bagabooo]

@@SevanDonikian will give it a try. I was running FFB sensitivity at 10. FFB I think around 5

[@Badong1981]

I'm planning on getting my first racing sim wheel and pedals. And I will probably just play GT7 on it in PSVR2. Is T300 RS GT a good wheel to start with? or should I wait and save up for a DD like the Fanatec (they have one for GT PS5)

[@240zzzap]

Last night GT7 update 1.41 got installed and my T-GT II finally feels as it should. Before the update I hardly felt anything on the straights but now it feels right. I had to get used to used to the wheel again :)

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Hmmm, haven't had the chance to test it yet

[@240zzzap]

@@thecasualracinggamer 1.41 installs automatically so you should notice it as soon as you start driving :)

[@ShifTy-86]

Hi I hope you see this I’ve ran into a issue my wheel is slightly off centre by like .5 degrees and I’ve fed up on it and you can manually reset the calibration by the click on ( mode+share+options) share is on the knob (twist left) option is on the knob to (twist right ) any tips or is there another way to do this?? I really hope you see this :)

[@thecasualracinggamer]

I don't own the T300 anymore but it sounds like you know the fix for your issue?

[@tonysmith6362]

The ambient temp where you are must by raly fudging hot, how do you know thr problem is overheating or are you guessing?

[@thecasualracinggamer]

The room I am in has AC set to 72° F. Not even close to being hot. All over the web says when the wheel overheats the force feedback reduces so I'm going to go with my wheel is acting like everyone else's and I don't have a different isolated issue.

[@scottd7222]

I've had the t300 for a while and I love it

[@lennertester]

I’ve got a tgt 2 now and I’ve got to say I’m very impressed. It’s a great wheel, a bit loud tho but in general awesome and a base you can use at full power without it overheating, at the start, it’s a bit smelly, like burning electronics but that’s completely normal😊 (the Nm is Newton Meters btw)

[@thecasualracinggamer]

The T300 had a smell as well. I don't mind it as long as I know it's something to be expecting. Raced again last night with settings of Torque=6 and Sensitivity=2 and again halfway through the race the sensitivity dropped drastically. 🥺

[@lennertester]

@@thecasualracinggamer Just know that your next wheel is a bit bulkier but way better in all aspects☺️

[@thecasualracinggamer]

I'm okay with it being larger. Excited for the better part!

[@lennertester]

@@thecasualracinggamer You better hit the gym, because you’re gonna need the force to turn the wheel if you set it at a pretty high level😂😂

[@JimboJamboYT]

@@thecasualracinggamer its definitely the cooling of the T300. There is an "always on" fan mode for the T300 that fixes this issue or if the servo is out of warranty you can replace their stock fan with a Noctua fan if youre willing to crack it open and do some simple wiring.

[@oktc68]

Gear driven wheels such, for $300 you can get the excellent Cambus C5 direct drive wheel and some basic pedals. There's a mod for the Thrustmaster called a quick ring which makes their quick release much better, $20 tops. If you want to stick with belt drive then the TS-PC is an awesome wheelbase, much beefier and run it at 100% with no worries. However the C5 doesn't have native console compatibility. So $400 for the CSL DD entry level bundle, outstanding value with an excellent upgrade path and console compatibility. Thrustmaster 's TGT2/TS-PC is nearer 5Nm but it's a solid base as far as belt drives go, it has the same ffb as the T300 just stronger, I think you'll like it. One thing is the fan used, not very good but easily replaced with a top quality Noctua 'fan for $15-20, I replaced mine before it failed and its still going strong after thousands of hours use, moves more air, and is quieter, all the cables and connectors come with it.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Hey, I currently have the T-GT II and it is a little over 6Nm not 5. Also, the Cambus with it's lack of quality pedals and non console compatibility make it a no go for the GT7 players. Also, the Fanatec DD deal does not support PS5 also making it a no go for GT7 players. While there are some good deals on Direct Drive wheels, unfortunately they don't with for PS5 and GT7 players.

[@fragmentalstew]

The current lowest price Fanatec bundle for PS compatibility is the GT DD Pro 5nm at $700. 8nm is $800.

[@mrwink6455]

Good next wheel, i have the TGT2 wheel as well and its awesome , you can even feel vibration in the pedals. running it at 10 - 10 and no overheating what so ever.. best wheel for GT7.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Awesome. Not sure how that vibration thing works but if it actually does that will be pretty cool.

[@chopbizz]

​​@@thecasualracinggamer its the transducer thingy on the back of the tgt. Only works with GT tho.

[@mrwink6455]

@@thecasualracinggamer it acts as a buttkicker , vibrates the pedals as well as your rig if you had one .... i recommend the playseat trophy, its light weight, small enough for the lounge room , and NO flex in the seat or wheel and pedals what so ever and it comfortable . and you dont get as hot while your racing due to the seat and how it works...check it out.

[@fuatdomanic]

You have to mount the tgt2 screws with their specific round plates exactly as instructed in the manaul in order to obtain the extra force feedback thru the pedals, happy rides🖖​@@thecasualracinggamer

[@fuatdomanic]

Also, you definitely need the tlcm pedal with hall sensors🤷🏻‍♂️​@@thecasualracinggamer

[@Wiiillllson151]

That's unfortunate dude. So on my g923 after playing around for acouple weeks I've ended up running my settings at controller 7/ Torque-10/ sensitivity 10 and vibration at 75. Thats with race cars and road cars I turn controller down to 5 and torque down to 7 sometimes. I done the GTWS 21 lapper around Daytona with No diminishing returns or overheating. I find having the torque at 10 greatly improves the road feel and gives me a more accurate indication of when the tyres start to understeer. Really interested to hear ya take on the Tgt as I was going to buy one but opted the get a cheaper wheel and save for a DD G pro.👍

[@thecasualracinggamer]

What's the difference in price for you between the DD and the TGT 2?

[@Wiiillllson151]

Here in NZ the T-Gt2 is $1279 and the logitech DD G pro is $2000.

[@Wiiillllson151]

@@thecasualracinggamer My G923 cost $440 on sale.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

@@Wiiillllson151 Yeah, that's a big jump in price difference between the two.

[@scottd7222]

​@@thecasualracinggamer man $850 and you got yourself a Fanatec DD Pro. Don't be afraid to swap eco systems. It may save you money in the long run because think of it like this..Eventually you will want a Direct Drive wheel. We all want them 😂. Now say instead you spending 650 now and then buying a direct drive in a year or 2 why not just spend the extra couple hundred bucks now and avoid the pain when you realize you delayed the envitable. Plus you can sell your old gear and recoup money and be all set. I've sat on Amazon and looked at that TG2 😂 but I talked myself out of it as I wait till next tax season to go all in on a direct drive eco system. Just a thought lol

[@Pollock1961]

Use torque 3 or 2 and sensitivity 1. I never had my wheel heat up and runs PERFECT.

[@aspectic6227]

Would you change the ffb depending on what car ur using?

[@jimgatts8919]

Thrustmaster did improve the wheel and fix the overheating and they called it the Thrustmaster T-GT II and charged $1000 fr it when people can get so much DD wheels for that price hahaha. Fanatec GT DD for PS5 is your best bet! Great race!

[@thecasualracinggamer]

LOL. For $1,000 I agree but at $679 it was hard to pass up as the next jump up.

[@garytebbenham6843]

I started with a second hand G29 for GT Sport and thought it was an excellent value starter wheel. Then I went with a Fanatec CSL elite and found that was a worthy upgrade. I now have the CSL DD 8nm and my god I don’t think I ever need to upgrade, however, I can imagine the DD pro (same wheel but PS5 compatible) would be wasted with GT7 as feedback and physics from the game is so poor. You would only really get value from a DD wheel by playing say AC or AMS2, though the former is considered to be the most accurate racing sim. With a DD wheel you’ll also need to look at a decent rig too as you don’t want to lose information through a non sturdy frame.

[@SimChaserRoseRacer]

Wrong! The Logitech G pro DD is absolutely amazing with GT7. And the truforce completely revolutionary in sim racing!

[@garytebbenham6843]

@@SimChaserRoseRacer I was referring to the Fanatec DD pro not the Logitech.

[@brechtvanhoenacker3224]

Hi, quick question. I didn't catch it, sorry. Are you playing on PS4? Thanks

[@thecasualracinggamer]

PS5

[@Almir23996]

Bought my T300RS GT and loved the difference coming from g923. My preference for FFT was on 5, overheating and losing feedback was pretty quick, went on 4 again the same problem, went on 3 it was okay but after some longer time i felt the FFB fade. Returned the Wheel today and ordered the T GT 2, my friend has one and never ever had a single loss of FFB even on 6.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

I run my T-GT II on a torque level of 6 for hours without a problem.

[@Almir23996]

As u said in the video i also cant understand how TM produces the wheel even today with the same crappy fan inside, it would be an easy fix for them but it looks like they just care bout the profit.@@thecasualracinggamer

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Yes, easy fix and call it the T300 Gen 2.

[@rickflare6893]

You got a defective wheel base but that upgrade is worth it. Why not go for the direct drive wheel base. You can buy a converter for console use but you can’t use a shifter only pedals and wheel. Works the same with the moza r5 on consoles too.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

I am not sure how much better if it all the 5 Nm Moza would be then the TGT2. The TGT2 is supposed to be around 6 Nm from what people have said and while it is belt drive I am expecting it to perform well. Also, I like the idea of it being officially supported for PS5.

[@Jdevil21]

So weird. Mine I just got doesn’t over heat until like 2-3 hours and it comes back after like 3-5 minutes and I play at 10-10 settings. You could get the new direct drive from fanna tech for $550 but I don’t think its PlayStation. Just Xbox and pc

[@thecasualracinggamer]

If you can run at 10/10 for a few hours you got a good one there!

[@user-eh3ry4et7o]

I'm sorry the wheelbase doesn't work well for you. I've had the t300 rs gt for 2.5 years myself and I've had a lot of fun with it, but since this week I'm also dealing with overheating. The GT7 physics update made the FFB stronger on my t300, maybe that's why it broke down on me..? I'll probably go for the Fanatec GT DD pro now. Good luck with your journey!

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Thanks! Sorry to hear your T300 is starting to go on you but I guess you'll be happy to upgrade. 😁

[@Greatgoku4]

Dd pro 8nm is alright but the 5nm isn't good enough against tgt2...especially coz tgt 2 has vibration transducers for gran turismo...much better plus tgt2 is made from top quality materials like metal and leather...fanatec dd pro is all plastic except the metal heatsink on the wheelbase

[@scottd7222]

@@Greatgoku4 stop it

[@user-bp9oj5ly1k]

Its maybe possible on PS5 but like when you get Pc and CSL DD its a blast. And you can upgrade to 8nm later.

[@andrewbryan9363]

Maybe Sid will become your arch nemesis

[@thecasualracinggamer]

I was going to let Sid win. The more we drove the more room I started giving him because he was so unpredictable on where he was going to go or when he was going to break. Sid took himself out. Thank you Sid. LOL

[@hansirocks-jammy2154]

A 10$ fan fixed my t300. But the tgt is a whole other ballgame. I bought a used tgt and it’s killer. Got the t300 as a backup

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Nice! I know people have cured the problem installing fans but it was not something I wanted to do on a brand new wheel. The price jump to the TGT2 wasn't terrible since I needed to buy the T300 with pedals but didn't need to by the full set with pedals for the TGT2.

[@hansirocks-jammy2154]

@@thecasualracinggamer you won’t regret it. I was A rated on the t300 for a long time, but 14days after i Got the tgt i Got to A+ and have Been that ever since. Love the transducer that gives a slight rumble thru the rig, feels like constant Road contact 👍

[@dazzwilko]

T300 should be 3 and 1 since the latest update

[@scottd7222]

I disagree

[@dazzwilko]

@@scottd7222 that's your opinion and I respect that. But there are alot of people in these comments and elsewhere saying 3 and 1 especially since the update.

[@aspectic6227]

​@@dazzwilkoI get this vibration when turning 90 degrees left and 120 degrees when turning right when playing on 3 and 1. But when i play on 4 and 1 it was ok and i felt the vibration on 120 degrees on both sides. Any idea why this happens?

[@JumpstylA78]

What is „3 and 1“?

[@notnowboi7795]

To me 3 and 1 feels like there’s virtually no force feedback and also is unrealistic 10 force feedback and 5-6 torque with controller sensitivity set to 5 is the most realistic

[@RayRiv73]

I use a g923 for Ac, ACC and GT7 and it feels great...only downside for me that it's noisy. Coming from a g25 the g923 is a huge step up for me. I dont have a proper rig and play from my computer desk its the only reason why I havnt upgraded to a Fanatec. One day when I have the room for a proper cockpit i will jump on a Fanatec.

[@Greatgoku4]

Fanatec dd pro 5nm is a worse wheel than tgt2 for gran turismo especially and also for other sim games...you need 8nm to feel better with fanatec plus fanatec doesn't have vibration transducers so it feels pretty vanilla compared to tgt2

[@RayRiv73]

@@Greatgoku4 thanks for the info

[@mraycgz]

I’m on the Logitech Dd pro. It was expensive as hell but I don’t see how it could get much better for me. I had the G29 and I didn’t care for it. It was great to make sure I wanted to race on a wheel but it has a big dead zone at the center where the gears mesh. The forced feedback was fine but the dead zone and the clicking made me want out of it.

[@cygnuzy]

I wanted the logi so badly but hard to plump down the money for a wheel that's only ever going to work on one console at a time, specially with Forza in the horizon

[@thecasualracinggamer]

I wish had the chance to try a G29. I really liked the T150 and would be curious how it compared to the G29 as the G29 was definitely the more popular wheel but not sure if it was actually the better entry level wheel. Your step up to the Logitech must have felt huge.

[@keithhopkins2197]

Logitech pro wheel and pedal is very good ❤❤❤

[@mraycgz]

@@thecasualracinggamer insane. I’m still not super fast but it feels great going slow. I need to work on carrying more speed to force the car to use the entire track. Like I understand how to be fast and the theory of it but I tend to push in the wrong places. And not push enough some places.

[@sonyx5332]

Does it work on the PS3 I wonder? I'm currently using a Logitech G29 for most of the latest sim racing games on console and I have kept it longer with me because I like playing the arcade/racing games released on the older console (PS3/2) for which the Logitech G29 works well with. Many of the latest wheels don't. I'll probably sell the Logitech G29 for the Thrustmaster T300 and get the Logitech DD later.

[@Pollock1961]

I also have g920 for x box and it runs great

[@chopbizz]

Been driving my TGT-2 for a year now. I love it but i think its a little bit overpriced. The TGT is on another level then the t300, you going to love the experiance.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

I'm excited for it!

[@sancho615]

I have the exact same issue with the T300. In the same race, at 6, i lose it in the 4th lap. The issue is from GT7. I tested it with GT6 on ps3 and it was fine. Also on iRacing on pc.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

I've had no issues with my T-GT II overheating in GT7.

[@sancho615]

I feel like I've found the source of the problem. Electrical voltage plays a role. Since I plugged my steering wheel into a single outlet, there is no longer any drop in force feedback. The TGT2 has a regulator I believe. This is why the problem does not appear. I'm not 100% sure of what I'm saying but, based on my tests, it could well be that.@@thecasualracinggamer

[@HighlanderGameTV]

I have the t300gt version no overheating problems for over 1 year now

[@thecasualracinggamer]

That's awesome! I know there seems to be quite a few people who say they have not had issues with their T300.

[@DanielFenandes]

i have the t300gt and it overheats. You are just not setting the force high enough

[@HighlanderGameTV]

@@DanielFenandes in gt7 i had the settings from 10/10 down to 6/8... i now play with 6/8 never had an issue with reduced force feedback etc... idk i guess with the t300 series some overhest some don't

[@THESHADOW97139]

@@DanielFenandes The problem (there is none...) is simple... Why do you want to absolutely put the ffb to the bottom?? Each game has a different level of ffb and must therefore have a different restitution at the wheel (which explains why some people complain of not feeling anything, on games in particular ... and this even with a dd). Even on dd, we do not push the setting to the maximum, to avoid certain frequencies, which must be avoided above all.

[@DanielFenandes]

@@THESHADOW97139 i use my FFB at 4 (out of 10) to not overheat. At 6, which I consider ideal, it overheats in 15 min. Which means I can only use 40% of the advertised power. I could use my g29 at 10 at all times with no issues. I replaced my g29 for a t300, and it was a good upgrade in many ways. Even at 4 torque, it is muh better than the g29, but I find the advertisement misleading

[@zanychelly]

I used to have a T-150, it is irritating sometimes because you don’t have a clue on what the car is doing. If I knew better, when I got a T150, I would have gone for G29/G923. It has more detail on what the tires are doing. Currently I’m using a CSL Elite compatible with the PS4/PS5. By the way I have installed heat sinks on the T150 and now on the CSL

[@thecasualracinggamer]

G29 won't offer much of a difference than the T150 as it's a gear driven, low FFB wheel. They are pretty much on the same class of wheels.

[@jasonl526]

What made you go with a belt driven wheel? I say this because right now the options on direct drive wheels at the moment is really good. Personally I would go Fanatec over Thrustmaster for console and pc gaming. I started with a t150 and eventually upgraded to a t300 which I loved and was very happy with and fortunately had zero issues . I ended up upgrading to a belt driven wheel which was the fanatec csl elite ps4, this was a great wheel and for me a big upgrade. Next upgrade was fanatec gt dd pro 8nm I just feel at the price it's hard to beat for native console compatibility plus it is a very good wheelbase . Now I have the fanatec f1 Racing wheel (dd1 ps4) it's 20nm and it's a beast . I've personally had no problems with any of my wheelbases from Thrustmaster or fanatec but I know others had. The TGT ii is a great wheelbase and I'm sure you won't be disappointed but belt driven wheelbases at that price are over priced I feel a gt dd pro 8nm would have been a better pick as eventually you'll probably want to upgrade to a direct drive wheel, and fro. What I've seen and read it's apparently better .

[@thecasualracinggamer]

I went with a belt drive system based on how much money I was looking to spend at this current time. Could I afford to spend more, yes. Did I feel like I needed too, not really. I think belt drive wheels can offer a really good experience. I was able to enjoy my T150 for years so a belt drive system should be a big boost already. If I can successfully grow this channel, the creator side of me wants to hopefully be able to try all different wheels in the future and give honest feedback and reviews on them.

[@Greatgoku4]

The dd1 and dd2 are flawed platforms...torque spikes...look it up. Fanatec needs a massive refresh. The csl dd and dd pro don't have the torque spike issues. The tgt2 is a great High build quality wheel with vibration transducers...for the price it's almost better than the 8nm dd pro and definitely better than the 5nm...not to mention those bases come with plastic wheels with no leather. Very basic and no vibration transducers means it's a vanilla feeling experience compared to the competition. Dd1 and 2 are more premium but it's a very old base and dd tech has come a long way since. It would be a massive mistake to spend so much on an outdated and flawed base. I think he made the right choice with tgt2 especially since he already has tlcm pedals and he can use it with his setup for ps5. Can't mix and match pedals and bases on console

[@jasonl526]

@Greatgoku4 @Greatgoku4 well I'll have to disagree with that...I don't see the basis of you saying that they are a "flawed product" on what I presume you are referring to as torque ripple . But please if you have research and abundance of people/reviewers complaining about this and calling it a flawed product please add the links would be nice to see and read what they have to say as in the reviews I've seen , people who I've spoke to who have them and from what I seen in forums e.c.t I've never seen anyone call it a flawed product due to torque ripple. The tranducer vibration only works on one game , to say the gt dd pro has a vanilla feeling compared to the tgt2 because of the transducer you're the first person ive ever heard say that also you'd be better off buying proper transducers for better immersion., in my opinion the price of the 8nm dd gt pro is just better..the truth is the tgt has always been overpriced ..the orginal was and so is this I would presume it's slightly better . I wouldn't really buy any of the the rims they both are not great especially at that 28mm diameter very small and both are basically plastic wheels i think the tgt2 has some aluminium parts but is mainly plastic with leather rim where i think the gt dd is all plastic with rubber rim for a round wheel, I think neither have magnetic shifters. That's another reason why it's over priced . Also you talk about build quality but the tgt2 is mainly plastic right where gt dd pro has a bit of plastic at front and back but mainly metal...dd1 dd2 is all metal and is very solid and hefty great build quality Direct drive is just about what motors they use ...you say dd1 and dd2 are old well that doesn't make it bad I mean the simucube has had the same motor for just as long ....age doesn't turn a good product bad . Price wise the ps4 dd1 was on sale for €1,300 with a f1 wheel rim with podium paddles ...that's a price and I picked one up ..native console compatibility xbox and playstation and pc you can't get that from any other brand not even thrustmaster . Ffb is fantastic detail You're getting from the base is great ...but hey that's my opinion from having 5 diffrent wheelbases . And it's funny you say outdated ...so you obviously feel belt driven is outdated also right as direct drive is newer ? Outdated ...flawed have I don't think you've even used a dd1 or dd2 ,

[@Greatgoku4]

@Jason L yikes I didn't know I'd run into such a defensive situation but I'm just gonna tell you my side, what you do with the info is upto you. First of all I even used a simucube 2 pro with heusinkveldt pedals so I know what top shelf feels like. I personally own a logitech pro dd as I had to overhaul my entire setup including pc,ps5,screen,peripherals, aluminum profile rig etc or else would've splashed the extra and gotten the simucube. But for less than 1100-1200$ with coupons you get one of the best dd bases when it comes to ffb quality also the load cell pedals...obviously 11nm maybe not enough for some but I never use more than 8-9nm. I have tried dd pro and tgt 2 before. I have never used a dd1. And as for my info on torque ripples/spikes you can look it up at your own leisure I'm certainly not invested enough to go through the trouble of finding them again its not that difficult. Now as for dd pro or csl dd unless you get the 8nm it's a clear W for the tgt2. Yes it does use belt instead of dd but it's the top shelf belt drive vs bottom tier dd....the dd pro was so underwhelming that I was willing to shell out 400$ more for a logi pro. And yes the transducers only work for gt7 but he his buying it for console use and presumably mostly for gt7. That cheap garbage wheel that comes with the dd pro is sacrilege to use on a daily basis and if you want other fanatec wheels you are adding a lot of cost on top of what you already forked out. The guys name is casual gamer and he already invested a good amount on tlcm pedals so him getting the tgt wheel and base is soo much cheaper than purchasing a dd pro with load cell and extra wheel and 8nm power supply.......how is that sensible? And that metal part of the base is the heatsink or else that would've been plastic too. Dd pro build quality isn't the best tbh. Dd1 and 2 are the premium bunch but like I said what I did and fanatec is gonna refresh them soon and it's gonna be way better especially for the price. Last but not least tgt 2 has decent materials throughout the wheel and touchpoints. Which is all one cares about when driving for prolonged periods. Magnetic paddles wouldve been nice but only on the top quality products which are expensive...all the affordable wheels with magnetic shifters sound horrible and tacky...especially the t248. With the tgt2 and dd pro being priced in between that spectrum i can understand. Cheers didn't mean to stir the pot btw.

[@m.o545]

T300 RS wheel always getting loose, why????

[@thecasualracinggamer]

If you mean the force feedback is getting loose, that would be the wheel overheating.

[@Rich-pj9wv]

I cant afford to upgrade from my G29 but its the only wheel I have used so I am happy in my ignorance so far.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

This is 100 percent true. You don't know what you're missing if you haven't tried it but even with budget wheels, you can really get immersed in the racing experience and enjoy it just as much as the person with the few thousand dollar setup. Unless that person has a motion rig. Then they win no matter what. 🤣

[@Rich-pj9wv]

@@thecasualracinggamer My creaky old chair I sit on is my motion rig 😀

[@thecasualracinggamer]

@@Rich-pj9wv Haha!

[@APoetsCorner]

I use G29 for GT7…..now I just purchased a Thrustmaster T80 for The Crew. LFG 😅😁🤣

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Why not a T150? I don't think the T80 has force feedback. If you are in the US Thrustmaster has the T150 on sale right now.

[@notnowboi7795]

Just got a t300rs gt this Christmas and yours is most definitely faulty. I ran mine at: 5 sensitivity, 10 10 on force feedback and torque and it lasted a couple of minutes and didn’t overheat (I would have kept going but I was afraid it would so I didn’t go further but probably could have for maybe 20-30 minutes or so). I currently run it at 10 force feedback, and 6 torque and raced for like 2-3 hours and it was fine no overheating. It did get slightly warmer but that’s to be expected

[@thecasualracinggamer]

That's awesome if you don't have any issues!

[@notnowboi7795]

@@thecasualracinggameryeah I’m loving the wheel it’s force feedback is so smooth compared to my old g29 and the torque difference is fantastic 4nm is perfect (it’s amazing for drifting!) and is really strong. I can’t even imagine how powerful the most powerful dd wheel feels like (which I’m pretty sure it has like 29-30nm of torque)

[@tunsiehelden]

I had the t300 when it was just new many years ago and I loved it. Used it for a couple of months with GT5 and iracing. Sold my rig and didn’t play for many years. Never had issues with the wheel though. I now got myself a new rig when the psvr 2 came out. Got the Fanatec GT DD Pro with the 8NM power brick and the load cell break. It’s good. It’s been so long that I’ve used the t300 so I can’t really compare the two all I do remember is being really happy with the t300 it felt great.

[@6377shane]

I had to gt300 for about a month and a half and it burned up

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Crazy

[@steveybiggunzgaming8118]

Nvm just saw the end u got the tgt2, stick with that.

[@henrik1743]

The wheel rim on the TGT2 is so fugly though..

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Well at least they have plenty of wheels to choose from.

[@beatnickclassics]

I wish the t818 was console compatible...

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Same

[@curbsgaming5907]

I had the t300 for a while with the tlcm pedals. It works great but I wanted more and ended up buying the Logitech pro wheel and pedals. The wheel is awesome with tru force. Works great, feel fantastic on GT7, but I prefer the thrushmaster TLCM pedals, Unfortunately you cant use the pedals alone wirth the PS5 and logitech wheel. The tgt will be great for racing and the tlcm pedals. See you on the track

[@scottd7222]

Would you recommend Logitech pro? I have your old combo going currently

[@Racer_51]

Get a TGT 2!perfect wheel for GT7!

[@thecasualracinggamer]

👍

[@tomwatkins9490]

I have a T300 too and I'm just waiting for the T818 to be released on consoles. I don't think the TGT 2 is worth the price compared to the T818.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

From things I have seen it didn't sound like Thrustmaster has any plans to release console compatibility anytime soon. Have you heard anything different,?

[@scottd7222]

This is my boat too. I've got a couple Thrustmaster rims and ideally I would go from my t300 to the new T818 but still no console support and I'm currently on ps5 only 😢

[@lennertester]

@@thecasualracinggamer from what I heard late 2024 is set to have a dd wheel from thrustmaster for console 😊

[@oldrockerthegamecat1720]

This is a shame ,I bought a T300 in 2015 and it broke in 2022 after very light use .The force feedback would get weak and eventually it went into a wild spinning calibration loop slamming hard left to right during boot up.Then it just totally failed (No Power) Because I had the FI Ferrari Add on rim and TH8A shifter and T3PA pedals I was kinda stuck in the Thrustmaster eco system so I've just bought a newT300 servo base for £200 . I'm worried it might break also now😮 I have a G920 also for backup and it's a good wheel and can recommend for the price but the T300 is definitely stronger and smoother but is prone to breaking so I hear.I can't justify spending money on a DD wheel so I'm hoping for maybe another 5/6 years from my T300 ? I've heard of people drilling holes in them for better cooling but I'll wait till It's out of warranty before I try that . Hope you enjoy your next wheel.Good Luck.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Thanks! Agree, drilling into a few days old T300 was not something I was willing to do. I was not actually expecting to have this problem right out of the gate. Since you already have a Thrustmaster wheel, have you thought about just buying a TGT 2 servo? Will be more then the T300 servo but still less then going to a whole new DD setup with another manufacturer.

[@THESHADOW97139]

Known problem ... there is a video in French from memory, which explains what to do to redo the calibration of the steering wheel

[@MrTomtom0013]

Same for me. So i have added a fan to extract air flow. I Can now set 8 8.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Cool!

[@damgam98]

All these people mentioning overheating... meanwhile my close to 3 years old T300 never faded FFB, at least noticeably.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

If you hadn't had any issues, that's great. Mine overheated within the first week of owning it.

[@damgam98]

@@thecasualracinggamer Yea i'm not saying it's not the issue with this model, but rather makes me wonder how lucky am I that mine is fine.

[@Mycatsbirthdayparty]

Next time just focus on your narrative instead of passing sid and such haha

[@thecasualracinggamer]

🤣

[@Fromatic]

That's unfortunate, I can use the t300 for hours, but have the strength on 5 or 6 which is what I find comfortable for long sessions Edit: I am interested though to hear your take on the TGT

[@thecasualracinggamer]

If yours works that's great! I am excited for the TGT2 and curious myself how different it will be then then the T300.

[@BrussoCanada]

5 or 6 is the correct setting. 8 is way too high as the T300 will start clipping as it can't deliver that much torque. If he'd used it correctly, maybe he wouldn't have had so many issues.

[@BrussoCanada]

Having it set to 8 is way too high. 5 or 6 is more appropriate. Turn the fan to always on mode. Maybe use it correctly before you start criticizing.@@thecasualracinggamer I use mine with GT7 and also have a PC running the telemetry screens, rev counter, motion, and wind simulation. This is with the Sparco Shifter and Handbrake. No issues here at all, and I live in Chongqing where it is 40 degrees celsius in the summer...

[@greebuh]

If you say Sid one more time....🤬

[@tunod-]

Thrustmaster really needs to bring out an affordable DD. Im talking 600 euros for a bundle. I dont wanna spend 500 euros on Fanatec or Moza, some chinese crap where you pay too much for what you get. BuT FanAteC CSL DD iS VerY gOOD. A dog's shit coated in gold is still shit.

[@utrapzab]

Fanatec……always fanatec

[@THESHADOW97139]

never fanatec .... lol

[@utrapzab]

@@THESHADOW97139 booo

[@KerbYourEnthusiasm]

Curious, who’s faster? You or your son?

[@thecasualracinggamer]

I bought him the wheel to use and he never used it. I ended up using it and the rest is history. 😁 He would still beat in NASCAR Heat 5 though on controller!

[@supercededman]

Boohoo. Sorry it didn't work out for you. I know how excited u were, initially. Next step?

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Next step coming next week!

[@THESHADOW97139]

For start cammus 5 nm

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Not officially supported for consoles.

[@THESHADOW97139]

@@thecasualracinggamer Correct ... no officially ... with lots of steering wheel 😄

[@robertcarr4172]

Drinking game. 1 shot for everytime he says Sid

[@thecasualracinggamer]

It's the weekend. Go for it and enjoy!

[@lennertester]

Just saying from personal experience with a g29, Logitech gear driven wheels are TRASH!

[@dannyblack8704]

Click bait This wheel is legendary

[@thecasualracinggamer]

I owned the wheel. I returned the wheel because of the issues mentioned in the video. I now have a different wheel. Do you know what clickbait is?

[@SimChaserRoseRacer]

Get the Logitech G pro DD with the pro pedals you will not be disappointed I promise! And there is only 1 Logitech direct drive. It's 11nm of force. Very strong! It's $1300.00 USD for both wheel and pedals.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Just more then I want to spend right now but definitely a great option.