Why I'm Wearing Stone Washed Selvedge Denim. And So Should You!

Never thought I'd say this. Never thought I'd think this. Never thought I'd think to say this to you. But stonewashed denim. It ain't all the bad. In fact, it's good. In fact, it's great.
But to be honest. Only this particular pair from 3sixteen. A brand that we know and love from being a raw denim brand. So making a pair of stonewashed jeans might seem like an odd move. So I was wondering, what's going on. So I asked them.
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[@tekufu]

I think it's kind of funny how everything comes full circle. We go from very normal denim, to getting the hearty and starchy so we can get sicker fades, back to a denim similar to the ones we start off with because we want the comfort back. This is not hate to the denim community whatsoever but Its a thought that made me giggle

[@goldleader6169]

this has literally been happening since the sixties nothing new here....

[@hioxd]

fashion is always a cyclical thing

[@pm-yp5ri]

Love that a company doesn't just stick to one take, but integrates their own ideas.

[@CeeAreDee]

Yeah. Are really has awareness of their own needs and their customer journey. Not just with a product but in their life.

[@robertnoonan6260]

Once I became a Dad I've found a simple pair of stonewash levis 505's with 1% stretch is the sweet spot for me between comfort/durability and mobility for playing with my son

[@brianagee2790]

Awesome video. I had gotten the stonewashed type 3 jacket and love it. Thank you for including 3Sixteen interviews in the video.

[@eddysshow]

Loved the format of this video. I’m super interested in how you decided to do it as a sort of monologue where every person tells their story instead of a standard back and forth.

[@markopolo9936]

Totally agree, I have a raw, Japanese selvedge from momotaro and Oni, got some heavy stuff from Brave star and Unbranded. They look and feel great, but I am always happy to have some super thin, non selvedge Chinese made jeans for beating about in. I couldn’t be without either.

[@dominicellett6010]

Amazing job on this video! Great interviews from Johan and Andrew. It's fun to try different styles and be open in your sartorial approach I reckon!

[@CeeAreDee]

Thanks Dominic. Appreciate that mate. Yeah. The guys are super smart in being open to new directions and influences.

[@David-ku2uu]

Great video Matt. Totally reinvented as a first wash guy. Fits better, feels better, wears in better in my humble opinion after one wash than as needed. My latest scores are this and my all-time favourites Acne trucker jacket, Resolute 710’s and Naked and Famous recycled stone blue. Perhaps it’s a throw back to my misspent youth in the late 60’s and early 70’s when we just washed the hell out of everything (I was a Lee guy) to get the desired washed out, faded effect. Thanks again!

[@CeeAreDee]

You know, I need to get my hands on a pair of Resolute’s! I’ve heard great things. How are they wearing in. Oh, and still got any of that old denim?

[@brianagee2790]

lol. The 3Sixteen guy had mentioned they had made a raw indigo type 3 jacket which no one wanted. Pretty sure he's probably referring to the 12 oz jacket. Funny enough, I did want it and its in my closet.

[@ronnichols2624]

I agree with one commenter in that it is interesting how things go full circle. I have worn jeans since the 70s. I always preferred rigid denim (as they were called then). Have I worn rinsed, prewashed, stone washed, distressed, and even acid washed denim? Yes. Mainly because it became impossible to find rigid denim in stores. And there was no internet. Admittedly, growing up with rigid denim influenced me. But I never fully embraced pre- any finished denim. I was excited when the Japanese raw denim took off. And a bit dismayed that several of my favorite brands and stores seem to be moving to rinsed and washed denim jeans over raw. But on the plus side, they forced me to search out new makers of raw denim. Which has been interesting for me. So enjoy you prewash jeans, stonewash jeans. I have been there, done that. And not going back.

[@SoFloCichlids]

I like the idea of the one rinse jeans. After I soaked a pair of loomstate naked and famous jeans they became so unique and had that beautiful hairy look.

[@televisionblitz]

I've got the same and they had that beautiful hairiness to start, but 11 months laters mine has really worn down into what is a very smooth comfortable denim. I'm curious if you'd had a similar experience.

[@jenyapribylov595]

Love that they're so open minded and lack that elitism found in other brands, great video man.

[@xXcangjieXx]

Yeah seem like they really put some thought behind the stuff they make which is great!

[@RolandKaySmith]

Great video, man. I own their stonewash jacket and I love it. It’s a different vibe and I dig it.

[@jawntanamo_bae]

I would consider myself a denim head. Nothing I own would be considered low quality by any means, but I love seeing and trying totally different processes than the stereotypical raw, selvedge from Cone or Japan. I think that this is an awesome video and great to see such a major brand trying something this different. As my denim journey has progressed and taste expanded I’ve found that while I love my basic 14.5oz indigo Japanese selvedge and always need a pair or two, I want to try the most unique or different stuff, in cuts that aren’t just slim or skinny. I think that growth is key to success and 3Sixteen nailed it here

[@sccphysicsprof1591]

The best compliment that I can give your video is that I bought a pair of these after watching it. It is something new for me, but they are very well made and maybe I will think about getting a raw pair in the future.

[@CeeAreDee]

That’s amazing to hear. It’s really a good choice! They just released a new run of their washed Kibata denim in the CS fit. That could be a really interesting choice for your next pair.

[@rockypacdocyagi1473]

They are spot on.. I totally agreed with what they are saying in terms of being a dad and parent wanting to be a bit more active in your jeans. It would be great just to have a alternative that is soft and broken in.

[@CeeAreDee]

Yeah. It makes total sense. And their right. Times move on. Needs and wants move on.

[@Schraiber]

Awesome video! Really enjoyed the candid interview

[@CeeAreDee]

Thanks buddy. Appreciate that, Joshua.

[@blueband8114]

I've been eyeing up a stone washed 3sixteen jacket, but thought hmm is it the right thing to do. I will watch this to see the thought process. Edit- now watched, ok i am 99% in the yes camp.

[@danielabrams5490]

Love the cameo from Andrew3sixteen at the beginning, he’s the man

[@user-ce4of5rn3c]

3:31. This guy understands 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

[@HereForTheStories]

Really good video buddy. Another little bit of potentially interesting info - I believe The Real McCoys for the first time this season released a washed jacket and jeans (I picked up both) having not previously sold anything but raw. Why? No idea, I suspect in part it’s actually because of brands like RGT whom have shown you can get really aesthetically pleasing washes which still age through use rather than washes which just look artificial. I for one own the same jeans as the washed pair I purchased in raw and am interested to see how the fades differ, specifically the richness of the indigo.

[@Poemwriter_Angelo]

i appreciate all types of denim. and i'm glad that washed lighter blue denim isn't looked down upon. people always said they prefer the look of older worn-in jeans. and people did things to make it fade faster. thats why they started selling jeans with an already faded look in the first place. and some people just really prefer style over quality? but Raw denim is definitly going to last longer, and the fades will actualy match with your legs. i believe its kinda funny how certain things do look better when they are older instead of new. a friend of mine bought a pair of converse all star sneakers.. and the first thing he did with them is rub a little mud at certain places. because he doesn't want it to look new and he believes it does look better? i believe these sneakers and denim are one of the few things that do look better when they are a couple months older. shouldn't a true denimhead appreciate all denim? even if its cheap and the stitching isn't the best?

[@J.0.E.]

Yeah I love raw denim but also love washed denim. I recently picked up a pair of Orslow 107’s one wash which is their raw version. Been wearing them a lot but I bought the 2 year wash version yesterday because I want the worn in look too.

[@goldleader6169]

new sneakers always look better

[@Poemwriter_Angelo]

@@goldleader6169 dirty sneakers never look good. But Converse look fine when they are a bit dirty.

[@jasonmitchell5219]

I don't have s problem with stone washed but maybe that's because I've deliberately tried to avoid being purely a 'denim head'. I love variety and mixing styles up as long as I don't have to spend too much time doing so. And likewise for me, since I hit my 49's, comfort is essential in anything I wear. That was a good video.

[@justgismo]

I love your shirt! It looks awesome! What brand is this?

[@cool2rule2]

Stonewashed levis 501 just look good. They’re a classic.

[@CAFEAE319]

Loved what you did here, bro! Sometimes these things become too cliquey and orthodox that they stop being fun. Like thinking: okay, I´m not wearing the suit and tie uniform to work, but instead the canadian tuxedo + moc toe red windg. IMO it´s still a freaking boring uniform. Imma try atone wash one day soon.

[@operamatthew]

i wear raw selvage denim daily and this is one of the best videos i’ve seen in a long time. that stone washed jacket is sexy though.

[@sundizzlebhambizzle-bazzle3492]

So true our tastes change especially in the raw community. I’m lookin more for comfort, stretch and a less fitted size n cut appeals more to me now.

[@dantravis4483]

Not for me, stonewashed is not my bag, like my blues dark or faded, the all over pale doesn’t do it for me. I have lighter vintage pieces, but they have life and character. The flat all over pale of stonewashed leaves me cold. But that said, that’s a personal choice and all power to those supplying a quality product to those that want it 👍

[@CeeAreDee]

Very well said, Dan. I think I am so into it because it’s a departure from my usual uniform. And brings new life to old outfits.

[@dantravis4483]

@@CeeAreDee totally…I get it, good to have a change from always looking like you’ve just loaded a 45 footer with lumber…my wardrobe is diverse and I’m not always in classic “denim head” attire . Also a factor is being that I used to be a lot bigger and back in the day the only big jeans you could get where stone wash…that has severely put me off! 😉

[@paulmunguia5821]

My most googled term over the last 4 years has been 'stonewashed selvedge' and up until recently there really weren't many options. Patrik Ervell had a medium and light stonewash that were beautiful, but they were discontinued. Some of the larger retailers like JCrew and Todd Snyder have attempted, Taylor Stitch has some unflattering ones, and then there's the stretchy/fake Kato - like brands. I'm curious to see what the stonewashed CT is like. Overall, I'm super pleased that denim brands are heading in this direction.

[@rickberkelmans9335]

i had the same problem, I wanted a heavyweight, (stone) washed, selvedge denim. Which was nearly impossible. I found the answer in the RRL 16oz Hillsview wash.

[@user-de4um2zq9q]

316 was my gateway drug to raw denim world. My first triple stitch tee-shirt was their indigo tee. And despite being fully committed to raw denim now. I still consider 316 is the most usable/ user-friendly brand. All the Japanese denim brand hoodie I tried have too small a hood to pull up. 316’s hoodie’s hood is perfectly big. It does feel logical that 316 launches Stonewashed denim.

[@CeeAreDee]

Haha. I’m wearing mine right now. And you’re right, the hoods are just the right size. Pockets too. They really do a good job.

[@jonathanpforr3844]

Perfect timing to watch a great vid while getting my hair on fleek! Yeaaaaaaaaa buddyyyyy!

[@SarcoidosisWarrior]

I would definitely be interested if they offered a slim and tapered fit stonewashed jeans. Often I wonder who manufacturers are talking to.

[@Watchesnwardrobe]

Dope video!

[@maximusaugustus6823]

I'm a denim maniac, I have over 2 dozen denim jackets , selvedge momotaro type 1 15.7oz, Iron Heart type 2 16oz and type 3 21oz. As well as washed denim jackets and pants from G-Star and Levis, RR, American Eagle, these are all prewashed denim and colors are amazing. My G-star denim jackets and pants have better fades than raw denim stuff can accomplish in time.

[@rockygabriel7096]

I have made few stone washed during pandemic with bleach ....one jacket and pants destroyed ( too much bleach sprayed and soaked😅) others doing fine ....and i love it😁

[@CeeAreDee]

Oh oh. How’d they turn out. Too light?

[@rockygabriel7096]

Turn out beige/ cream which is fine but ripped apart while washed by hand..... I used pure bleach on these two, should mix it with water, was my first try before your bleaching vid too.... Lesson definitely learned 😅

[@ronnichols2624]

You can also just try machine washing with bleach (usual amount for a wash load) to get a prewashed look with less risk of bleach damage to the denim. May need to wash more than once depending on what you are looking to achieve. RIT dye at one time made a prewash for denim to achieve that look (have not seen this in many years though). Machine washing will tend to soften your jeans as well. Especially if you have the typical US top loading washer with an agitator. But fabric softener can also be used as well.

[@TurboGlenn]

This gateway thing happened with me in Nudie store. Bought selvedge a week later.

[@daveyboy4715]

Raw denim starts out looking terrible in my opinion, then arguably looks worse after 6 months when it still looks new just with some random white lines here and there. After a year or 2 it looks good and after 5 years it looks great. Ohh ye and 3 months wear to feel comfortable, no time for that

[@CeeAreDee]

Haha. You have a good point.

[@marlinspike1235]

Hi, have you ever done any rewievs of German selvage brands Rumble59 and Pike Brothers? Would be nice to hear something about these and the companies also.

[@glenloader639]

I bought Pike Brothers overalls, I'm very happy with them! Got great service the quality is good. I'm not a denim head so no expert for there price and quality just as good as a lot of expensive Japanese makes. The denim comes from Japan on a lot of there product but sown in Turkey.

[@cash4chaos]

Levi’s 501, RRL all I need anymore. I wash once a month hang dry and wear.

[@colmcgillveray1010]

Is that an Eames stretcher/gurney?

[@kingyellowman5762]

What's the shirt you're wearing in this video?

[@kev9385]

Orslow 2year wash are pretty awesome

[@CeeAreDee]

Yeah. And their 105 fit is one of the best. Doing a super good job

[@hellboy7424]

Hi! Is there a brand that makes good quality denim (raw, stonewashed ...) in "large" sizes? I use a W44 / W42 depending on the hardness of the fabric, I live in Spain and I cannot find any "not super commercial" brand that makes jeans above the w40. Thanks in advance.

[@CeeAreDee]

Hey buddy. Hmm. Good question. Maybe try starting here. www.heddels.com/2014/07/five-pairs-raw-denim-38-plus-inch-waists/ Might be helpful. Not much in the EU tho

[@hellboy7424]

@@CeeAreDee Thank you very much for the answer! I know!! Europe is a nightmare for people like me. Spain, France, Italy ... a nightmare if you want to dress in a certain way other than the prevailing one dictated by 17-year-old boys addicted to Trap. And the truth is that I do not understand why. In England or Germany there are people MUCH bigger than me and still nothing. I'm a "small" guy in many European countries. And that I'm not even very "big" and it's pure genetics and body constitution. I'm only two sizes up from a 40. Thanks again.

[@SuperPussyFinger]

This is one of your best videos. Well done.

[@jeffrittenour8202]

Covid and joggers came together and taught men to be comfortable again. I'm not ashamed to say my most worn pants right now are a pair of jogger sweatpants from target, and i've been a denim head for 14 years. I will always have a pair of project jeans in the closet but if i know i'm gonna be bending, squatting, lifting, climbing, eating, sitting in the car all day, i want to be comfortable

[@booleann___]

what shirt are you wearing in this

[@devinhurt7698]

New FTC video happening anytime soon?

[@miguelteixeira4134]

I have a pair of european selvedge wranglers that i am washing for those stonewashed vintage fades. I am sick and tired of crotch blowouts and high contrast, super artificial comb and wiskers....

[@xCreepyKidsx]

I know this will be blasphemy to most but you could literally by a looser cut and just wash your selvedge denim on a regular basis to get them softer and have vintage fades. That being said I like to keep mine rigid and wash when needed though. If I want comfort or flexibility I'll go with something like BDUs, workpants, or cargo pants simply because they're never going to be restrictive to begin with and are both cheap and tough so who cares if they get beat to hell. As far as denim I can just go with standard Levis, Lee, and Wranglers for cheap or even a stretch selvedge and skip the washed look if I want more comfort. Personally I'm not a fan of stone washed or acid washed jeans having had my fill growing up in the late 80s and 90s. Back then in the US you couldn't find dark denim everything had a wash finish and by my late teens in the 2000s it was all that pre-distressed pre-ripped hype which was awful to say the least.

[@ronnichols2624]

Exactly.

[@bloatedsodium7301]

So what size did you end up getting? What’s your measurements? I’m 6’1 - 180, thinking of going with a 34.

[@CeeAreDee]

Might be better with a 32. I went for 34 and I’m 6” at 200.

[@bloatedsodium7301]

@@CeeAreDee dude I went with a 34, the waist fit good, but the thighs were massive! They were like wide legs. But get this, the jeans stunk!!! I wrote to them and this was their reply: “Unfortunately, there is a bit of a smell that comes with the stonewashing process. The smell goes away but feel free to send them back for a refund if it's too bothersome” I sent them back, dude. Again, thanks for the reply, have a good one!

[@stefanhnavetsea1588]

nope, I rather wear non denim pants like corduroy or wabash or sashiko before going back into mid blue stonewashed dad jeans, I'll stick to my dark blue raw, it might take forever for me to fade it so be it

[@bowright2195]

super random, but what are the shelves there?

[@CeeAreDee]

They’re from a Berlin based maker called Noodles Noodles and Noodles. Weird name I know. But amazing stuff.

[@hmartz]

What I don't like about my fading process is the back pocket wallet fades. I consider them ugly, also they are the first to appear and avoid can wear my jeans to the office at the fouth or fifth wear. That problem is inexistent with pre-faded jeans. On the other side, I got some pre-faded Levi's LVC 1955 and you lose all the experience, the fades look artificial, in anger I've been tempted to do them a bleach soak. I love the Nudie jeans pre-faded jeans, they look very natural.

[@dieselphiend]

I.. love.. textiles..

[@douglasbrooks2132]

It's okay. It's fine. It will please more people. Good for business. Not for me.

[@minerforjob32]

I want rigid stone washed denim

[@CeeAreDee]

😂 contradiction in terms.

[@minerforjob32]

Cee Are Dee one can only dream... :(

[@user-oj8zo3cr4b]

Yea I don’t buy raw selvedge. Selvedge in and of itself is ridiculous. It’s just a finished edge totally ridiculous and boojie as f. Now I understand getting raw denim though, it does actually make a difference. But as far as just getting regular sanforized jeans, you can ALWAYS starch and get the same effects.

[@ursaproxima]

Shrink to fit was just something Levi's did to save money and turned it into a marketing gimmick.

[@Known-unknowns]

"Smart people change their mind".

[@CeeAreDee]

Very well said!

[@aaron___6014]

It's 2021, people are literally wearing vintage clothes, clothes from the 90's, gym wear, sweat pants and moccasins, Letterman jackets from decades and schools they weren't even alive in, tech wear that looks like a parachute fell on them, doll costumes. The possibilities are endless. Anything goes, so if you want to wear denim like this the only thing that matter is will your small community accept it? If not, maybe you need a new tribe. I personally think denim only belongs on jeans in 2021, so there you go. It's amazing what people are willing to get so opinionated about.

[@jeremykeller211]

C.A.D.: You must be practically unique. The wearing of stone washed Selvige denim appears to be your major preoccupation. Do you have any other existential problems that approach this in magnitude?

[@CeeAreDee]

Not really.

[@uyi2g4eva]

If you want comfort save an older pair of jeans. If people knew how destructive to the fabric, wasteful and environmentally unfriendly stone washing is they wouldn’t wear stone washed jeans. Stick to raw guys, save your older pairs for those lazy days. The act of creating fabric and then intentionally destroying and shortening its lifespan is just silly

[@slevitt18]

Blasphemy

[@CeeAreDee]

Blasphemy is an epithet bestowed by superstition upon common sense. 😂😉

[@slevitt18]

@@CeeAreDee I like that saying. Stone washed selvedge denim is a mouthful.