Why I play multiscale guitars

[@KidNato]

multi-scale guitars help me see the fretboard more clearly when I drink

[@Marta1Buck]

Stay hydrated

[@JesusCruz-r5l]

​@@Marta1Buckp❤❤

[@estenray5385]

The “Fan Fret” design was conceived and first executed by Luthier Ralph Novak (out of Oakland California now New York City I believe). He was awarded a design and engineering prize from a famous engineering standards organization! Some time in the mid 1980’s!

[@estenray5385]

He told me he thought it would be most effective or make the most difference for electric bases.

[@jesserobinson20]

"I'm a big boy. I can..." You reminded me so much of my seven year old when you said that.

[@eamonnparsons3155]

Pete Ormsby is such a humble and friendly guy too. He hangs around in our national luthier Facebook group, comments on posts and gives advice to amateur builders like myself. I've been lusting after a Futura 7 for a while.

[@Superjet113]

Thank you for not using click bait thumbnails in my sub feed. You guys are awesome and this channel f'n rocks!

[@FrancisUrquhartEsq]

I got a production run Ormsby after seeing that video. Thank you.

[@Release_the_Bees]

I don't even play guitar but I love watching you talking about them. Thank you for giving us 5 years of quality content!

[@paulbates4100]

Got to be the most clear and articulate explanation of multiscale and the benefits thereof I've heard. Great job!

[@MashaT22]

Happy almost 5th! Love this guitar of yours. Perfect way to celebrate the channel.

[@jameslewis2635]

Going by the tarnishing of the hardware on that guitar, I would almost expect a guitar like that to be listed as 'pre-enjoyed'. When the hardware is worn but the paint is still in good condition it really speaks to someone having spent a long time playing and taking care with the guitar.

[@lucwilson1]

Always thought that Ornsby was sick AF. Thank for the rundown on it!

[@treadhead1945]

I love my multi scale Dingwall bass. It plays beautifully, and the tuning stability is crazy

[@cowfangirl420]

yeah! the tuning stability on multiscale basses are insane. i have one of the ibanez headless multiscales and if the weather is consistent sometimes i can get away with tuning like every other day if not longer.

[@GuitarGearGyan]

KDH NUT SLOT ASMR..... Standard glue action...... had to put it out there 😅 Congrats on the 5 years dude.

[@Sagerydian]

There is a multiverse where your multiscale guitars play YOU!!!

[@USWNTfan101]

I’d love to see the comparison video of the 3. And congrats on 5 years!

[@Twy7chTec_Vayper]

Damn dude! I've been following your channel for almost 5 yrs?!?! Lol nicceee almost how long I've been uploading vids on my channel/taking it more seriously. Congratulations 👏🏻

[@TristanJCumpole]

I'm glad that you use the correct term of "multiscale" rather than Fanned Fret. They're not the same thing, and there's a very important reason for this. A lot of people use the term "fanned fret" without understanding the implication of what one is, and yes, ideas blur over time but bear with me. "Fanned Fret" refers to the original Curtis Novak way of laying out frets as per his original patent, and existing active trademark. This lays out frets using a triangle so that if you stretched out the line of each fret in two dimensions, they would all coincide at one point. This only works if the strings are parallel, which they very rarely are in a guitar. A multiscale (or "compound scale") instrument takes the two outer strings - with whatever taper they have - and draws lines between where the scales are on each, interpolating the strings in between geometrically. We should always be mindful not to used "fanned frets" as it just implies that we are talking about a specific fret layout system, when we don't in fact use it.

[@michaelr.4878]

I was fully expecting that guitar to have a bolt-on neck. I was pleasantly surprised to see that it wasn't.

[@JayRod711]

Hey nice job.. very informative and congratulations on half a decade.. look forward to the next half. P.S. Humbucker sized single coil 😂

[@VincentLaboorMusic]

this got me so hard as well 😂

[@deebojones]

I think you had 5k subs when I first starting watching your vids. You are by far my favorite guitar content creator. Honorable mention to Glen!

[@ravenslaves]

I met Ralph Novak in the mid to late eighties when he was still working on his fan-fret prototype. Which was a modified Telecaster. The reason being is that there was enough room on the tele bridge to accommodate the saddle length difference between the scale lengths. The idea was that you could get Fender lows, Gibson highs, and a _Danelectro_ mids. When I played it, the only thing Ralph said to me was, "just don't look down.". Which helped. We discussed modifying a Les Paul, but at that time the hardware required and the work involved just didn't make it practical. I still can't look down when I play one.

[@TDZPearson]

I own a Korean Ormsby Hype GTR 7 string and a Custom shop 8 String Ormsby Hypemachine. I also own Mayones, PRS, and Ibanez guitars, and in all honesty, my favourite are the Ormsby's. Even the Korean one is my go to 7 string. They just sound, play and feel the best!

[@igorszamaszow171]

8:52 a humbucker-sized single coil :)

[@xarris37]

Haven't tried a multiscale myself yet, but i love the look of Ormsby guitars. i'm particularly fond of the hype gtr shark, and their dragonburst paint scheme

[@ilovegreenock]

A comparison with the three would be nice 👍👍 time is flying !

[@Upsetkiller456]

I have a BTB805ms and LOVE IT! Multiscale is super easy to adjust to, I never even felt a difference when swapping.

[@edanzbox]

Love your vids bro, keep cranking 🤘

[@GuitarQuackery]

Man, you're killing me with those solos. Great playing, K.

[@Zwidawurzn]

Since i bought a 7-string baritone i see what multiscale is for.

[@rushapa]

When your guitar strap fell from your shoulder I was like, "damn, so relatable for real"

[@adamcogan211]

Congrats on 5 years! 🇮🇪

[@eamonahern7495]

Here's what I'd do with upwards of 27 frets (yes I know there are 29 on that guitar): I'd tune to C# standard. Then I'd get my capo. I'd learn any Slayer songs that have guitars tuned to C#, then I'd attach a capo at the 1st fret and play along to Death songs because Chuck Schuldiner used to tune to D standard. I could also play along to Metallica's Sad But True in that tuning. Then move the capo up another fret to play Slayer because all their albums after Show No Mercy used guitars tuned ½ a step down. Then I could play the all the Metallica and Sepultura songs I know in standard tuning with the capo on the 3rd fret. I'd still have a minimum of 24 frets for solos.

[@saltpeter7429]

Good taste in metal. I like the inspiration's.

[@naughtscribe]

I think this might be my favorite of all of your guitars. Looks great, sounds great.

[@jonb8238]

Looks great, all other specs aside, wenge and electric blue is a beautiful combo.

[@NunSuperior]

13:40 Suddenly becomes an ASMR channel. Dig it.

[@nazznomad]

OG viewer here. You've made me practice and practice. Cheers from Canada!

[@senorsalami]

keep up the good work mate, all the best from Australia

[@JojoFryrocks]

This is really interesting, I’ve never seen or heard of these multi-scale guitars before, super innovative though!

[@GuitarJawn]

After you watch this video, go practice your instrument

[@kiezersosay49]

I'm in my car... but I will practice now! Lol I have a POS headless leo jaymz that goes with me everywhere I go. It actually plays astonishingly well.

[@MaDmanEXE]

Okay

[@narrowonflow]

Ye right...

[@russellmorgan5611]

After you watch this video, pick up your acoustic and sing me a song.

[@GuitarJawn]

@@russellmorgan5611 i dont play those grandpa guitars no mo

[@jackbootshamangaming4541]

Your Ormsby use and praise is why I bought my goliath at NAMM this year. Now I have 5 of them in 7 months

[@wagonet]

Great explanation. Didn't really understand the purpose. Looks cool! I'd like to try one someday 😊

[@waltersmetak]

This kid can play his arse off! Incredible guitarist!

[@user-fy6cj8mn2r]

Oh he’s no kid

[@PhilipCockram]

That's awesome . I love the Blues 🎸😀

[@allenmitchell09]

The fanned fret guitar seems like something somebody would have tried to design in the 80’s and failed miserably, but low and behold it does work like a damn charm. Sometimes physics is on your side.

[@micks9804]

Fan fret instruments have been around for century"s

[@5urg3x]

For the nut, use super glue, not wood glue. Reason being is that wood glue expands as it dries, it’s really easy to use way too much and end up with a mess, and it’s also more meant for bonding wood to other wood, not wood to some other material like plastic / bone / etc. With superglue it dries right away too so you don’t need to worry about dry time.

[@johnplaystheguitar123]

Tuning an SG down to C# standard with 9s works for me . I don't mind the lack of tension. Feels nice.

[@picksalot1]

The term "Scale length" actually defines the measurement distance from the Nut to the Saddles. The "String Length" is the measurement from the fixed connections of the strings, usually the Tuners, and where the Ball Ends strings are fastened. The string length and string gauges define the overall "string tension" when tuned to a particular pitch. A longer string length requires a higher overall tension to be tuned up to the same pitch as a shorter string. The Reverse Headstock on many Baritone, and other Guitars, takes advantage of this physical property, as it allows good string tension and tone without requiring an excessively high string gauge. Short-scale Basses try to compensate for their shorted string length by increasing the string gauge, which rarely works well.

[@TheLowest]

As someone from Perth Australia I dream of having an Ormsby one day, but also I don't work in a mine so I can't afford one yet

[@user-fy6cj8mn2r]

Thick super glue (30 Stewmac) typically works best for nut repairs. Wood glue is old school but it’s been found that super glue is far more effective for slippery modern nut materials like TUSQ XL. Super glue (CA/Cyanoacrylate) also sets rock hard, whereas wood glue is designed to flex with wooden joints which you don’t want in a structural or musical sense for a nut fixture. The tiniest dabs on the fretboard face is enough, but do not let it get any where near the ledge of the fretboard because if you ever have to clean it off, you don’t want that to show

[@luke-xz1gb]

dude, for a first video that was a good one. nice licks throughout.

[@iCry_88]

I love my Ormsby line up, I've got a protoype 7 if you ever fancied reviewing it!

[@roymartin500]

I dig yours. If they'd a production run of Reverse headstock, well basically your model in surf green I'd be on it!

[@KDH]

They did as far as I know. It was a satin surf green

[@roymartin500]

@@KDH I found it. Thanks for the reply!

[@alexmarshall3815]

Comparison of all 3 would be great, differences with the custom shop would be interesting

[@nei4264]

wasn't expecting asmr kdh during the nut gluing part lmao

[@rique_.leal.]

KDH uploaded, its gonna be good

[@firzen0000]

Here's to another 5 years, Mr 36 subs 🎉🥳 please do more restring vids

[@tymanngruter1808]

I thought a multiscale guitar was a bass...... i think i take a drink again! 🤤

[@BrunodeSouzaLino]

The reason we call it "multi-scale" instead of "fanned fret" is because "fanned fret" is a Ralph Novax trademark. As per baritones, Agile makes 30" scale guitars.

[@davroshalfbeard8368]

Cool was watching lastweeks video and was thinking what it would be like to play one cheers 😂

[@bengibson3955]

I love your Ormsby guitars, and I get a pang of Aussie pride to see how much you love 'em as well. I've been a subscriber since your Rob Chapman video and I've enjoyed your content ever since. I reckon your restring format is great as I'm as much of a gear nut as the next guitarist (i.e. obsessive hoarder level). I've got a bunch of mediocre guitars that I should put up on Reverb or Marketplace and invest in at least one Ormsby guitar. It's quality over quantity, right? 😉

[@sadie376]

I've always thought that multi-scale guitars look cool & would love to try one. I'm mostly an acoustic player tho' & there aren't many MS acoustics on the market... As the idea has become popular, there are some cheaper ones out there, maybe I'll pick up a used electric if I see one I can afford.

[@michaelgallegos8811]

Congratulations 🎊 on everything 👏 🎊🤘🍻👋

[@markdeloria20]

I've never played a fanned-fret guitar, but I imagine they would be more ergonomic due to how the frets line up with your fingers. As if you need to move your arm less to change location on the neck to play in a comfortable position. Plus, they look cool as hell.

[@D14V0R05]

I'd say that multiscale makes sense for 7+ strings on guitar and 5+ on bass to get that extra tension in those thick strings, although the fanfret does have it's merits on a 6 string for comfort.

[@serazac25]

I own an Ormsby TX 7-string, and I wish the neck pickup was also a humbucker. Maybe in the future I will change it, but it is fine for now.

[@kkupsky6321]

Damn. I am stuck with u. I remember when u had 10k. You even help sixstringtv. Congrats. Hope you know I comment a lot because I thought it helps.

[@richardharrold9736]

9:00 "it's a humbucker sized single coil"? Don't you mean the reverse of that?! 😂

[@NielsRiethorst]

Beautiful guitar! I had the same Ormsby in white, really regret selling it.... I actually loved the neck single coil though, best single coil I've ever used, ran circles around my Fender USA noiseless.

[@martyshwaartz971]

I bought an ormsby a year ago or so and I really like the multi scale. It’s extremely comfortable and chugs feel good with more tension. I don’t really notice a tonal difference though.

[@JeanMarceaux]

"It's a humbucker sized single coil" Now that would be a fancy pickup: give me LESS pickup for MORE size!

[@CaesarTjalbo]

I was about to go pedantic but of course somebody's already beaten me to it. Well done!

[@andym2612]

I noticed what he said too. So it's like a pickup in a Fender Jazzmaster? Doesn't quite look the same but I'll take his word for it.

[@methanedirigible]

EMG do a humbucker sized single coil

[@JeanMarceaux]

@@andym2612 rather like a P-94

[@michaelgallegos8811]

U have great content bro very cool 🎵👍🎸🍻🤘

[@SSRT_JubyDuby8742]

I joined with the Chapman debacle, never once regetted, 🔥. Like deployed 👍 😎🎙🎸✅️

[@the_algorithm]

Have you tried Hybrid 9-46? I love that gauge for my MS Guitar

[@Clinthopanonymous]

I hate to be that guy but more the purpose of a baritone is to be able to tune lower without having increased tension. My 28 5/8" baritone that's in A with the higher gauge strings have relatively the same tension as my strat tuned to E.

[@arunkarthikma3121]

Longer scale lengths also produce more upper harmonics, so the low notes aren't as rounded as something like a 7 string

[@arunkarthikma3121]

I believe github has a string tension calculator application, for different tunings and scale lengths.

[@agatzebluz]

Nice guitar. It stood the test of time obviously ! I was wondering. I believe you ordered a custom amp in China a while back. I don't remember seeing the video of that amp. Did you receive it in thhe end ?

[@KDH]

This is the video Who made this Amp?? kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKi5n6KHer9jg68

[@agatzebluz]

@@KDH Yes indeed !! Thanks

[@lptimey]

incredible sound in the intro. your playing is really nice and the tone is superb. Could you please disclose your signalchain?

[@KDH]

Thanks! All the tones came from a line6 helix. Chain is: Guitar Bogner ubershall amp sim Zilla fanboy Celestion K100 IR Reverb Panned left Tube screamer sim Soldano slo 100 amp sim Zilla fatboy Celestion K100 IR Reverb Panned right

[@lptimey]

@@KDH thank you and have a nice day/evening

[@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t]

"Weng-geh" makes it sound like you've bought the wood from Prince Ludwig the Indestructible.

[@ibanezgitarrero]

I noticed you take the d'Addario strings out of a bulk pack. How long does it take you to go through the 25 sets? And do you notice any sound difference between the first few sets and the last few sets? The reason why I ask is that the strings in the bulk pack are not sealed in a plastic bag like the single sets.

[@zanzabar4ky7]

I would like to see the see the Ausi one. I have an 8 string gtr headless (with sharks) and have been tempted to get a custom or in stock 6 string.

[@MilitantOldLady]

The biggest problem with fanned frets especially if you have a 7 or 8 string is that the differing scale lengths need it's own separate neck relief. Unless you have two truss rods and literally torque the neck into shape by force, it will never have the correct neck relief and action. You set the action right for the low string and the high strings are a mile high, you do the opposite and the low strings bottom out on the frets. It's absolutely maddening.

[@Zaotar1]

That’s something the manufacturer should have taken care of. A properly designed neck shouldn’t have that issue. Put another way you can fan neck relief across a multi scale just as you can vary it across a flat scale.

[@jeffjolliereticulatedpytho5962]

Awesome video can you use standard tuning ? on multiscale

[@desertdwellerpete]

They really make the prettiest guitars available

[@asmnstn]

Comparison sounds great!

[@christopherhorton4634]

I knew a lot of your bands songs were in D standard, and I figured that's why you use the MS format. It makes sense. You can use 10s on this guitar, as well as your standard scale instruments! Smart, dude! I love your Blue Ormsby. Have you used the 7 string on any more WALKER songs?

[@KDH]

Used a 7 on one of the new unreleased songs I talk about it and there’s footage from the recording studio in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2XCdpmCnLqdi5Isi=S5XTpG28ywFZO74y

[@christopherhorton4634]

@@KDH Awesome. Can't wait to hear the new band stuff. Glenn is a killer singer 👍

[@m.a.6478]

That GBG120 in the background

[@horse_dog]

watching this as i’m restringing one of my basses

[@peterhall4852]

How big a difference is the Custom Shop? Really entertaining vid btw.

[@adventureawaits3646]

that was really interesting and has me considering..... I want to sell one of mine anyways, so there's gonna be room 🙂

[@castleanthrax1833]

If your pick-up changes from a humbucker to a single coil, that is coil SPLITTING, not tapping. Those terms are not interchangeable.

[@IanNachtigall]

Def wanna see all 3 on an RSS😊

[@74Bagas]

just right, what i am thinking

[@James.99]

I prefer the feel of a 25.5 scale. The biggest reason I don't have a 7 string is because now they are all 26.5+ or multi-scale for some reason

[@hexaldecima6839]

Why not just slant the bridge and pickups without having it fanned? Would it have the same tightness?

[@PeterWasted]

It's not my type of guitar at all but I can appreciate it, without wanting one! I do like well played guitars that show careful ownership and the wear on the bridge typifies that. Too often, I see oxidised and tarnished metal surfaces which would actually be rubbed smooth if the guitars were played. Slightly worried to see little white spots under the neck lacquer. Wenge can be an oily/resinous wood and is not easy to finish. It could be that the finish is starting to de-bond from the wood. If so, I imagine there's years of playing before it becomes significant. Who knows - maybe it will also add "character".

[@tfriesen3866]

16:29 restring the other Ormsby’s

[@frankzappa951]

Great video. Great hair. Remind me of Rob Chapman

[@drop830]

I knew a kid in highschool with the last name Ormsby. I wonder if it's the same guy who made that guitar?

[@colten2524]

i also keep my guitar tools in an ammo box that's awesome

[@SALTY85]

How comfortable is it to play chords on a fan fretted guitar vs a standard length guitar?

[@Gliese710_]

I personally don’t like how hard it is to play chords past around the 10th fret, other than that they feel amazing.

[@kkupsky6321]

Try light top heavy bottom. Like coated genera 2 on the batter and coated genera 1 on the resonants. Who makes Evans? Daddario? Is Ernie Ball just eh.