Why I sold my 2018 KTM 690 Enduro (thoughts on the 2019 model)

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@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 3 жыл бұрын
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@steelmilkjug
@steelmilkjug 4 жыл бұрын
I think the title of this video should be "Why I'm not a Dual-Sport rider"... it describes every DualSport I know.... 690's, DR650, KLR650, DRZ400, XL650R......
@damiendalton8397
@damiendalton8397 3 жыл бұрын
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@cadejose7770
@cadejose7770 3 жыл бұрын
@Damien Dalton Yup, been using InstaFlixxer for years myself :D
@denvergrady1078
@denvergrady1078 3 жыл бұрын
@Damien Dalton yup, been watching on instaflixxer for since december myself :)
@bradsanders6954
@bradsanders6954 3 жыл бұрын
My DR650 will run 80mph all day on slab,it doesnt buzz or vibrate enough to matter. Its not a great dirtbike or a great streetbike,but it works well enough to get by.
@Kaegis
@Kaegis 3 жыл бұрын
The DRZ400E is definitely the better of the dual-sport, mentioned.
@zrig1
@zrig1 4 жыл бұрын
Have the 2019 and I have none of these troubles. Longest day trip so far was around 600Km .... Yes the seat sucks, new one on the way.
@FlyingMonkeyAdventureRiders
@FlyingMonkeyAdventureRiders 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Great job on the videos. I look forward to your “Why I Sold my R1200GS” video. 😂
@raycollington4310
@raycollington4310 4 жыл бұрын
Jam tomorrow!
@harryebersohn4912
@harryebersohn4912 4 жыл бұрын
He’s falling for the Starbucks/crash bars and spotlights crowd 😂😂😂
@supersix9137
@supersix9137 3 жыл бұрын
This is another, "It's not as good as a 500exc when offroad and not as good as a 1200GS when onroad" video. If only that actually DID exist !
@braaap690
@braaap690 4 жыл бұрын
I put the Nomad ADV tower and windscreen and Rade Garage axillary fuel tank along with other modifications and love my 2014. I think it is the best all in one bike out there. 2020 would be better, but not enough to switch after the investment I have made.
@onewheelisbetterthan2
@onewheelisbetterthan2 4 жыл бұрын
The ktm 690 has been my all around hands down favorite motorcycle ever. I honestly thought the bike rode pretty smooth and I feel like motorcycles with windshields that dont go over 150mph is pussy shit. It's the perfect bike if you like to hoon
@JannisJG
@JannisJG 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 701 2020 with the aurora lite kit and I have to say it addresses the wind & vibration issues you mentioned. If you want more range you can also add LR tanks or go with a full kit, or add a rottweiler tank under the seat. I think, comparing to the T7 and the 790, which are much less capable off-road, in total the 2020 701 / 2019 690 is the closest thing to a unicorn out there.
@bseidem5112
@bseidem5112 4 жыл бұрын
How many bikes and experience do you have?
@franksmith9692
@franksmith9692 4 жыл бұрын
Just sold my 790 std and am planning on a 690. 790 is capable Adventure bike but not a dirt bike. Now you’re telling me 690 isn’t either? 500exc is great in dirt but 690 runs away on twisty roads. That’s why I like 690. My expectations in dirt are not as high as yours I think.
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 4 жыл бұрын
I will have a comparo soon
@davetscantech
@davetscantech 4 жыл бұрын
I find my 17 one of the funnest bikes I’ve had, started with a V Strom, big mistake, went to an 08 990, revalved the suspension and heavy springs, now my 690, heavier springs, went to 2.5w oil in the comp side and raised the oil level, I love this bike. I used to ride a lot of tech off road on my 07 Husky and of course I’m not taking this in those types of areas for the most part but I’d try.
@jwvspupsv1679
@jwvspupsv1679 2 жыл бұрын
I had an 890. After a trip to colorado i sold it. I now have a 690 and it feels and handles like a dirt bike. I will take on any trail on this 690 where as the 890 i would turn around
@mikef3300
@mikef3300 2 жыл бұрын
I've been watching a lot of videos I've been watching about the 690 since I picked one up myself and I've noticed that in those videos the complaints are mostly about what the bike isn't more so than what it is. It seems that everyone tries to turn the 690 into a long haul adventure bike or cross country touring bike? I was looking for a bike that I could get back into the trails with when I bought mine. A bike that I didn't have to trailer there but could ride there instead. I was originally looking for an XR650L but wasn't able to find one in any dealerships near me then I found the KTM. More power, better suspension and fuel injected! I was sold. Added taller risers, changed to a foam air filter, slipped on a yoshimura r77 and a rottweiler fueling dongle and the bike runs, sounds great. When I started looking for a bike to use for trail riding I wasn't even considering the 690 but I'm very happy that I wound up with it. For me it's exactly what I was looking for. Brings back memories of blasting around the woods when I was a kid. I catch myself smiling every time I ride it lol
@PetterIvarsson
@PetterIvarsson 2 жыл бұрын
So true. People are bying a semi-dirtbike and then complaining about the road-manners.
@adventuristnw2321
@adventuristnw2321 4 жыл бұрын
I just sold my 790Adv/R because it was too street-oriented. I am probably going to get a 2020 690 Enduro R
@chrisvantassel8867
@chrisvantassel8867 4 жыл бұрын
Get the Husky 701.....KTM all the way with better parts
@adventuristnw2321
@adventuristnw2321 4 жыл бұрын
@@chrisvantassel8867 I went with a 2020 690. This year component-wise they are virtually identical. It boiled down to which one I liked the look of more. You cannot go wrong with either.
@chrisvantassel8867
@chrisvantassel8867 4 жыл бұрын
@@adventuristnw2321 Well done! When I bought mine the KTM had not yet gone to the better engine so good to see they finally did. I still think it is the best dual sport. I just ordered the Ride Garage Ralley F4 kit which will make it better on the freeway.
@damachine3
@damachine3 4 жыл бұрын
@@adventuristnw2321 I also went with a 2020 690 Enduro R a few weeks ago. Love it!
@MrCannonls
@MrCannonls 4 жыл бұрын
Amen. Just did the same. After 5,100 miles on my 790 R, finally accepted that it was too fat for my type of riding. Replaced it with a 701, put a Puig Windshield and IMS fuel tanks (+2.5) and the 701 is now much better than the 790 for my uses. Love it! It’s fine on the highway and awesome offroad. The 790 was amazing, but I’m much happier now.
@pinkiewerewolf
@pinkiewerewolf 4 жыл бұрын
Your reasons were some of my concerns, along with KTM's refusal to honor electrical issues in warranty, were why I just went with a 2018 KLR 650. OK, they heavily discounted the KLR to move it as it was a last year bike and the dealership was closing. I think Yamaha has come close to the kind of bike I'd like to go with my Harley and ZZR1200 in the garage but the T-7 still isn't for sale in the US.
@bseidem5112
@bseidem5112 4 жыл бұрын
Change out the doo-hickey right away. Discovered mine at 7K miles in pieces. Actually I'd bought the stainless replacement parts so the dealer could replace it and he could not find all the pieces in the engine. Replaced w/ stainless and was good to go.
@pinkiewerewolf
@pinkiewerewolf 4 жыл бұрын
@@bseidem5112 I bought the Eagle Mike replacement. The bike is torn down for all the necessary mods.
@bradsanders6954
@bradsanders6954 3 жыл бұрын
@@pinkiewerewolf A DR650 is not a bad option. Ive invested in mine with what ever set up needs I thought it had,its more the dirt rig over a KLR. But is smooth on hiway. 2 sets of wheels/quick detach windscreen/cogent shock/redone forks/sargent seat.etc,etc. I would ride it to Alaska and back and be comfortable.
@pinkiewerewolf
@pinkiewerewolf 3 жыл бұрын
@@bradsanders6954 DR 650’s are legendary bikes. I think Suzuki is coming to the end of being able to produce them in those present form. Like the KLR, emissions is going to force their hands.
@bradsanders6954
@bradsanders6954 3 жыл бұрын
@@pinkiewerewolf They are really kind of average to sub average bikes,until the set up begins. Its not real cheap but when the right things are done the bike can really work. Mine,somehow will run uphill on road at 80mph,it shouldnt really do that with it's 36 HP,but it does. The Cogent shock is the best thing Ive put on the bike,the sargent seat is good for 500+ miles. Since 08 Ive been trying various things and some get sold off right away,they dont work. As is the bike works for me. Ive had about 15 KTM 's since the late 70's,most all of them dirtbikes. Great bikes.
@barneyprince9257
@barneyprince9257 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I thought the same thing when I first got my 2016 690 enduro but after a couple trips I didn’t even notice the vibration . A persons vibration tolerance must vary
@nickloborec1416
@nickloborec1416 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I’ve got a really small clitty that is so difficult and frustrating to get out in a hurry but the plus side i can take a massive vibrator with smiles for miles.
@DolphinDivingChamp
@DolphinDivingChamp 3 жыл бұрын
as someone who can only own one bike the 690 does wonders, its so much smoother with less vibrations than any previous single I've owned and on 17s with longer gearing its great on the highway
@MrCannonls
@MrCannonls 3 жыл бұрын
The 701 since 2017 has been counterbalanced. It’s awesome on the road and it is amazingly void of vibrations. Wind is what it is, but a windscreen helps me quite a bit. I LOVE the 701 as a do-all dual sport.
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah newer motor is super smooth
@bradsanders6954
@bradsanders6954 3 жыл бұрын
@@BigRockMoto I hear widely varying ideas on this "smoothness"...is it smoother than the old 690? Or really actually smooth at 75mph on hiway? Some seem to think the bike isnt that stable at hiway speeds and vibrates some,others say different....I dont know.
@ronsexton3685
@ronsexton3685 Жыл бұрын
Recently in one of your other videos you mentioned you did a DR650 build (picture looked nice). Do you have any videos and if you do, could you post them? Also maybe just give your thoughts on that bike/build? Thanks, I enjoy your channel.
@chasp_0784
@chasp_0784 4 жыл бұрын
The gear ratios are baffling, there is a SUPER expensive gear replacement kit that makes it how it should be but you shouldn’t be having to buy a 3K gear set on a 10+ bike
@bradsanders6954
@bradsanders6954 3 жыл бұрын
Buy a DR650. Its the only big single Ive owned,and Ive had a lot,that comes with real wide range gears. 80+ mph all day is no sweat. It actually smooths out at that speed. The KTM Lc4 620 I had? Was in top gear at the top of a freeway on ramp.............and just spun its guts out going down the hiway. The austrians will tell you what gearing you need.
@axellness
@axellness 4 жыл бұрын
New 690 engine = no vibration.
@patfrazer
@patfrazer 3 жыл бұрын
Every bike has problems. New problem with your new bike: TOO HEAVY lol. (For offroad) And too expensive. So...
@alberto-cg7ox
@alberto-cg7ox Жыл бұрын
I did 1000 km with the basic KTM 690enduro (stock) in two days , also a lot of higway and enduro tire.. As a man it's not a problem for me some wind and some vibration, if I want comfort I stay at home jerking myself on the sofà, but I respect your opinion..
@gregneville8944
@gregneville8944 9 ай бұрын
I'm lucky enough to have a 500, a 690 ( '23 ) and an 890 R ( '21 ) and I agree with you. If I HAD to only keep one it would be the 690, but it doesn't do what the 500 or the 890 do. So i guess the answer is to keep all three!
@jalexandr55
@jalexandr55 4 жыл бұрын
I have watched a few of your videos lately. Many are just a bit odd. This one takes the cake! The video is titled "Why I sold my KTM 690 Enduro." In this last video you are standing behind , or draped over a BMW R12GS for the majority of the video. Again, just a smidge odd. Stay safe, and keep posting these ...
@gilvietor1918
@gilvietor1918 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, I had a 2019 Husky 701, and though it has way less vibration it is very niche for what it does. I did big off-road loops with mine, putting 10,000 miles on it in under a year. I found myself trying to make it more street comfortable which made off roading less comfortable (windscreen is now stopping the cooling, k60 tires struggled going up big rocks or loose stuff). If I was a millionaire I’d buy another one but would have a 300tpi, 500excf and then a street focused tourer. It is a great bike buuuuuut the lack of cruise and other things it can be bothersome on long freeway stints. However, it can do these things and it never let me down on the big solo loops in the middle of nowhere. CAUTION is the gas cap from the factory is trash, get the metal cap to avoid breaking your key in it.
@firstamendmenttshirt4768
@firstamendmenttshirt4768 3 жыл бұрын
I use graphite in the lock.
@richardclegg5853
@richardclegg5853 4 жыл бұрын
Very happy with my 19,think most of your issues with the 18 have been addressed. Definitely more dirt focused than street...
@woitika5983
@woitika5983 4 жыл бұрын
the problem of vibration also?
@bseidem5112
@bseidem5112 4 жыл бұрын
How about the gearing? Lower in first now?
@1dancier
@1dancier 4 жыл бұрын
I thought you bought the KTM because wifey said you could only have one bike, now you've got three. You'll have talk about why you keep buying KLR's. Keep the good vids coming.
@Bowiehair
@Bowiehair 3 жыл бұрын
I have the 2020. It's all dependent on the wheel balance. First set of wheels tkc 80. I could hit 90 100 no prob w vibes. Then went 70 30. And then at 70 it vibes. It's front fenders height let's ya know its more for off road. New engine is bomb. Auto clutch. No BMWs go where I go. But I can go on the highway just fine.
@ridingdirty2412
@ridingdirty2412 4 жыл бұрын
yes. yes.. yes. Got rid of mime for the same reasons. But also really glad I had it and thoroughly enjoyed it.
@hughess004
@hughess004 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, it's a dirt focused dual sport. I have a Multistrada so know about big 1200cc all road bikes and a 690R will kill all of those tanks once the pavement ends.
@chrisb3822
@chrisb3822 4 жыл бұрын
i love the videos man, you have a lot of great information and experience to share. i think if you added some be roll footage every now and then instead of the solid pictures, your video quality would be on a whole new level.
@fawaz681
@fawaz681 3 жыл бұрын
I had a r1200gs for 2 years and i loved that bike, then i bought wr450f and since then never rode my big adventure bike not because I don’t like anymore but I’m having more fun with the wr, i ride it 90% of the time off-road and the rest in small pavement sections , after selling the r1200gs do i miss it ? Yes but I’m having more fun now and that what’s important.
@mike.l1246
@mike.l1246 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree with Everything he says regarding 690-2018 and earlier! .. I had a 690-2016 fixed with everything that can be mounted, (I also had a 1290 Superduke at the same time, so I was not looking for a Unicorn;) It was sold because of what is mentioned in the clip. And when driving on the highway, it was not perfect. But the craving for a 690 Enduro remained and it eventually became a 2020, (Also has a Kawasaki zzr 1400-20), It is not possible to compare ktm 690 2019-20 against the older 690..The new one is better at everything, 2019-20 plays in a completely different league !. Bought a 690 Enduro-20 and I actually think it's a Unicorn .. You will not regret it if you are thinking of maybe buying a 690 Enduro-2019-20. (And it consumes much less petrol too! I am super happy with my Unicorn :)
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@bseidem5112
@bseidem5112 4 жыл бұрын
@@BigRockMoto But that BMW? Had a GS for three years, engineering problems: rear axle bearings flattened, throttle cams cracked, FI pump started blowing gas. Just keep up the planned maint intervals and have a fat wallet.
@bradsanders6954
@bradsanders6954 3 жыл бұрын
@@bseidem5112 You are merely describing BMW ownership. The love for the bike is supposed to over rule any issues involved with ownership. 2800.00 is barely even a dry fart in terms of a BMW fix. All I can say is sell it right before the warranty quits. Always.
@bseidem5112
@bseidem5112 3 жыл бұрын
All these things happened to my 09' R12R and more and I kept up the maint per BMW. Beware.
@youtubeaccount5153
@youtubeaccount5153 4 жыл бұрын
So the enduro bike isn’t good for prolonged highway use. It doesn’t have good wind protection. It isn’t geared well for highway use. Sounds like you didn’t buy the type of bike you wanted.
@bradsanders6954
@bradsanders6954 3 жыл бұрын
"dual sport" means dual,meaning 2 sports,dirt and pavement. A 701 or a 690 isnt just a dirtbike,my 200 KTM is a dirtbike,it doesnt need to go down the hiway. Many people will take trips on a 690/701. Camping,what ever.
@youtubeaccount5153
@youtubeaccount5153 3 жыл бұрын
@@bradsanders6954 And when you buy something that is made for two sports there are trade offs. Notice I wrote “prolonged highway use.” Dual sports aren’t designed for prolonged highway use. If you want prolonged highway use then get an adventure bike or a street only bike. Or understand that prolonged highway use won’t be comfortable on a dual sport and don’t complain about it or cite it as a fault.
@bradsanders6954
@bradsanders6954 3 жыл бұрын
@@youtubeaccount5153 Only a poor dualsport wont do prolonged hiway miles. Saying "it isnt made for it" is admitting it doesnt work on road. My DR650 could go to Alaska and back,people ride them around the world. Because it works everywhere and doesnt break. But isnt a flashy bike so it doesnt get stolen. win/win. I have a KTM 200 for dirt,dirtbikes are dirtbikes,light and quick.
@youtubeaccount5153
@youtubeaccount5153 3 жыл бұрын
@@bradsanders6954 I guess we will have to disagree. I am fully aware that there are some dual sports more road capable than others. But I suspect they are less capable on the dirt than than dual sports that are less comfortable on the road. I have a WR250R dual sport. I wouldn’t regularly take it on prolonged highway trips. And wouldn’t complain that it is less comfortable than my Super Duke on prolonged highway trips if I did have to take it on a prolonged highway trip.
@bradsanders6954
@bradsanders6954 3 жыл бұрын
@@youtubeaccount5153 Everybody,and i mean everybody,wants something different in a dual sport. A plated dirtbike is just that,and its all some people want. Some have ridden WR250R's to Alaska and back and done fine. To me my DR650 is a 50/50 bike. I have 2 sets of wheels for street/dirt. It flies on curvy paved roads,and flies on gravel roads. Average singletrack is OK with knobbies and lower gearing. I would ride it from CA to NY to visit my sis no problem,take the more interesting route. It just goes.
@craighoffman6876
@craighoffman6876 Жыл бұрын
Good video as always. As an only bike a 690 likely is probably lacking. Slotted between my '18 KTM 300 XC and my Super Tenere, a 690 seems perfect to hoon around town and to explore the many 4x4 trails and other off road opportunities available to me in Colorado. 690s are great for doing wheelies, and ya gotta love wheelies. One of my favorite bikes "back in the day" was my '83 XL600. I view the 690 as a vastly updated and improved XL, and that is a good thing. Probably gonna sell my '06 FZ1 and my '10 Husaberg FE450 to rejigger my stable to 300 XC, 690 R, '14 Super T, and possibly a 300cc scooter for quick runs to the store and stuff. My FE 450 is snuck by the DMV plated, but it is far more of a dirt bike than the 690 is, and pretty torturous on the street as a result. The plate on the FE is for not much more than legality on forest service roads, still have to truck the bike to the riding areas. I do love the 70 degree FE as it is cool as Hell, but have owned it for 12 years, time to move on I think. The Super T is alight on graded hard packed dirt and a supreme mile muncher, but folks who ride 600 pound bikes in anything resembling real off road are out of their minds 😆 A '19 or later pre-farkled used 690 would be ideal as the updates sound extremely worthwhile. Too bad KTM didn't spread the ratios more on the trans. A low 1st would be nice for technical off road and it isn't like a 690 doesn't have enough power to pull a tall 6th gear and the resulting gaps in between the two.
@MrBeracah
@MrBeracah Жыл бұрын
Ian if the 690 wasn’t the unicorn bike, from your experience and having rode so many bikes, what would you say is the closest to the unicorn bike?
@webmasterguru7799
@webmasterguru7799 4 жыл бұрын
Hi like your vidoes and thoughts, i compared the 2018 - to the 2019, and yes the 2018 vibration was realy bad through the handlebars, tried and then purchased the 2019 and super happy with this choice for me, and suits more of what i want.
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to try out the 2019
@bradsanders6954
@bradsanders6954 3 жыл бұрын
@@BigRockMoto I rode a 2017 701 it was darned smooth and it flew. Plenty of power,that same 701 is now blowing blue smoke on hard shifts,and black smoke under plain old hard throttle. Not sure how long it will run that way. No electrical problems yet. Lots of older 690's had lectric issues.
@6806goats1
@6806goats1 2 жыл бұрын
So, guess getting a DR650 is still a good option... for me anyway. Just a local bike to visit the store or gym while maybe reducing the chance of it getting stolen. Adventures when time allows.
@MrStevecro
@MrStevecro 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for your opinion here. I have been tossing up between the 2020 690R and the Tenere 700. I'm no dirt magician but I am happy to go at reasonable pace on dirt (not afraid of it) and sand and always get where I'm headed, whether on my DR650 or my Vstrom 1000. So I'm inclining towards Tenere now since most of the big rides I do are 80% bitumen. Your video helped sway me
@bradsanders6954
@bradsanders6954 3 жыл бұрын
I think,that the T7's are the subject of some internet frenzy saying "best dirtbike ever!"...."its my go to enduro bike!"...................A T7 will weigh very close to 500lbs fully set up and ready to go on long day rides or any long ride.................having ridden dirt for a very long time? I know anywhere near 500 lbs is way,way,too much. Guys seem to think crashing their T7 is proof of just how good it is in the dirt "look I hit a pine tree and broke my T7 1200.00 headlight!" Bitchin eh?...............as a streetbike? The T7 makes about 66 HP.....that aint very fast,its very mild but it will get you there.
@robinsongguitars
@robinsongguitars 8 ай бұрын
In this video you mentioned the close ratio tranny. I have a nice 2017 KTM 1090 Adventure R and it has a close ratio 6 speed also. That was my first complaint with the bike. Fist gear seems a little tall for slow off-road work while 6th is pretty low for freeway cruising. The engine buzzes at 75-80mph and I keep wanting another gear to drop engine RPM. There dash has a gear indicator which I use because with the gear ratios so close together I don't have a sense what gear I am in. KTM should have thought this through a little better. I have been riding almost 60 years. Another issue I don't like is the fact you have to remove the top half of the bike just to check the valve clearance. Then if the valve clearance needs changing you have to measure and remove the cams. This is pretty bad engineering. A pretty high price for modernization. I have a Honda XR650L that I tricked out and I can check and adjust the valves in about 15 minutes. Check out my entries on KZbin...
@Macgregor_images
@Macgregor_images 2 жыл бұрын
Not a unicorn bike (there is not one) but with a few (yes it’s costs) it’s as close as one can get. Depending on how hard you want to ride it’s a good compromise.
@Davidkxf
@Davidkxf 2 жыл бұрын
Ive got a 701 with the balancer shaft and a 690 without; I prefer the 690 engine. If you don't like vibration, wind in your face and sore bum by a car.
@DODinsaneCHANNEL
@DODinsaneCHANNEL Жыл бұрын
How many km for the oil change?
@cassin11
@cassin11 4 жыл бұрын
Vibration and gearing issues are deal breakers for me. Not a chance considering it's 10K+ bike. Thanks for the review
@Snotroggel453
@Snotroggel453 4 жыл бұрын
Vibration is normal on 1 cilinders man😎 the sound, feel and punch of that engine is just so manly. If you don’t like that, just buy a kawi z800
@Kephartable
@Kephartable 3 жыл бұрын
I always find it amusing when folks complain about 690/701 vibration but no issues with a KLR
@bradsanders6954
@bradsanders6954 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kephartable Older 690 shakes WAY harder than any KLR. Way. If it was just a dirtbike it wouldnt matter,but its not.
@Kephartable
@Kephartable 3 жыл бұрын
@@bradsanders6954 so a bike KTM no longer sells is the reason they aren't any good?
@bradsanders6954
@bradsanders6954 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kephartable Ive had about 15 KTM's over the years,I didnt say they werent any good. The Lc4 engine has been known for serious vibration since the first one they built.
@kudosjeg
@kudosjeg 3 жыл бұрын
Its just not meant to be cruised at 75-80 5500-6k RPM is quite a bit on a single for cruising. And adding more teeth to the front sprocket just makes the bike impossible to ride at slow speed off-road. Pretty much holding at 70 or slower is the only way to ride the 690 without lots of pain over long distances.
@bradsanders6954
@bradsanders6954 3 жыл бұрын
See, That's where a real wide range gearbox comes in. Then the bike would be designed to run at 80mph easily. KTM doesnt do this on the 690/701. My DR650 is very happy at 80+ mph with stock gearing.
@ridenm7748
@ridenm7748 2 жыл бұрын
That's a bummer that 1st isn't lower and 6th isn't higher. Kinda the point of a 6 speed... I kinda wanted a sumo 690 but maybe I'll just buy rims for my dr650.
@chrisblanchard4938
@chrisblanchard4938 4 жыл бұрын
May 23 2020, does he still have this bike? No seriously does he. lol
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 4 жыл бұрын
No the video is about why I sold it.
@ruckedupg9166
@ruckedupg9166 3 жыл бұрын
I knew it was click bait before I clicked, watched vid..Confirmed! I own both bikes and the 1200 is an over priced slab rig, great at banging out road miles but, anything less than double track and the 690 gets the nod!
@erictrenbeath9680
@erictrenbeath9680 3 жыл бұрын
Unicorns don't exist. Everyone knows that!
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 3 жыл бұрын
They do i just haven't found one yet
@ronaldcalderone3767
@ronaldcalderone3767 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Nice honest review.
@ferkuzuel
@ferkuzuel 3 жыл бұрын
I love my 2019 690 Enduro r, it feels very smooth compre to my previous 2016 Suzuki DR650, I like the direction where the latest 690 Enduro r is heading, love the upgrades on suspension, the looks, the electronics, I had a drz400 before, so I don't mind the smaller dashboard for me it's great large displacement dual sport.
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@ridenm7748
@ridenm7748 2 жыл бұрын
Is the 690 smoother everywhere than the DR? I find the dr pretty smooth but have a fat bar installed.
@MUDSUX
@MUDSUX 4 жыл бұрын
Regarding the vibrations in the handle bars have you tried Highway Dirtbike’s handguards? I put those on under “some” tension and it got rid of a lot of the vibrations.
@firstamendmenttshirt4768
@firstamendmenttshirt4768 3 жыл бұрын
I still do not get this vibration thing. Me no vibration 2018 690 Enduro R.........still going.
@rupert916
@rupert916 4 жыл бұрын
I rode an fz10 hard for almost two years...sold for a 690. You’ll appreciate a 690 once you get away from a 1000cc naked street bike as far as wind protection lol
@samsungtaco11
@samsungtaco11 3 жыл бұрын
where are these bikes made at?
@dronetoursolutions5572
@dronetoursolutions5572 3 жыл бұрын
What did you think about the seat height?
@racingtag1237
@racingtag1237 2 жыл бұрын
After watching all of your videos, I came to the conclusion that you are just bored (in a good way), hence the reason for keep changing bikes. You remind me of myself in this matter.
@markusuebel2624
@markusuebel2624 2 жыл бұрын
so you wanted a bike that´s in the middle for some offroading but still capeable on the dirt. and then it´s too much in the middle. ok. yeah but your are right anyway. i drove the supermoto version the husky 701 and it was fun but for realy offroading (yeah i had the supermoto but you can still tell if it is capeable and dirt able) a bit too heavy and the mass off the motor in motion also not soo good. but for street not comfortable enough. so better have a lighter true offroad machine and a bigger bike for touring.
@grzegorzgrotkowski6575
@grzegorzgrotkowski6575 4 жыл бұрын
3:46 „little too big and heavy” - ? - really, sayin’ this standing next to a cow? C’mon man! You have been honest with us so far. And that was why I subbed to your channel myself. Like your new bimmer? Go ahead and record a content on how good the bimmer is. It is good honestly. But 690 is not far behind in it’s own field. Recording sth’ like this you are loosing your credibility.
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 4 жыл бұрын
I only meant big and heavy for a dirtbike. For a dual sport or ADV it is very light.
@powshredder3716
@powshredder3716 2 жыл бұрын
sounds like you made the right decision getting the old man BMW bike.
@bradsanders6954
@bradsanders6954 3 жыл бұрын
690 is really smooth,compared to the old KTM 640/620. Those things are animals,feet get hammered,hands get hammered,eyeballs will spin in your head at speed. KTM doesnt do wide range gearboxes on the big single. They just dont.
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 3 жыл бұрын
The 2019 and later 690 is amazing, before that I was not a fan
@bradsanders6954
@bradsanders6954 3 жыл бұрын
@@BigRockMoto Im looking at bikes,I actually put money down on a T7. But it doesnt look like any are in the chute heading this way. Yamaha wont even confirm an order. The 2021 690 is a possibility.,,890 seems pricey,and kinda wide and lotsa electrical trickery I dont want.
@ridenm7748
@ridenm7748 2 жыл бұрын
I had a ktm 625. That bike made me never want to own another ktm again. Vibration was horrible... i mean really horrible. The gearbox was okay though I even geared it down. But it has at least 5x the vibration of a dr650. Was a fun bike for 30 minute rides though lol.
@brucekendall52
@brucekendall52 4 жыл бұрын
Your assessment is a 100% correct but the 2019 is the better bike.Cheers
@russellokeefe
@russellokeefe 3 жыл бұрын
Next thing I'm searching for is "how to block content provider from search results"! Can you day "DOUCHE NOZZEL"?
@nawiribrahim
@nawiribrahim 4 жыл бұрын
From a 690, you did not go to a 790. Can you let me know why?
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 4 жыл бұрын
Well the 790 is another category , adventure and 150lbs heavier
@nawiribrahim
@nawiribrahim 4 жыл бұрын
@@BigRockMoto That's true but you got the 1200 that's heavier. But I see you've now bought the 500 so the perfect bike is 2 bikes :-)
@steves52
@steves52 4 жыл бұрын
Just wait, he will. LOL
@angelomacola7548
@angelomacola7548 2 жыл бұрын
I’msorry man, I ‘m not agree at all: you are looking for a 890 not for a dual…. You’re looking for a 80% concrete and , maybe, 20 % white roads only for your satisfaction. 690 is the best 50/50 you can buy. The little twins, Yamaha, Aprilia are not better of 2020 Ktm mono. Even in vibration. Those are Bike with another confort on the concrete wind an dit foam. In every other field they lose.
@mortengammelgaard929
@mortengammelgaard929 4 жыл бұрын
The “new” engine is much better.... I have a 2019 Husqvarna 701 enduro ( same bike ) but I agree... the gs is a far better bike... I had a 2008 GSA which i loved and I`m ordering a 2020 R1250gs HP now !
@mountainadventures7346
@mountainadventures7346 2 жыл бұрын
To much in the middle….. exactly what the 690 was designed to be!
@ianferrier235
@ianferrier235 4 жыл бұрын
Great review, appreciate your insight 👍👍
@hmmv4
@hmmv4 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative thanks
@MattPerry
@MattPerry 4 жыл бұрын
is the 690 reliable?
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 4 жыл бұрын
Yes , there are not many issues reported out there
@toddbenfield6546
@toddbenfield6546 3 жыл бұрын
Slave cylinder in the clutch has issues! Mine went out at 3500 miles. Love this bike though! I have a 1090, and a 500. My favorite is the 690👍
@bradsanders6954
@bradsanders6954 3 жыл бұрын
@@BigRockMoto With,say,25,000 miles on the engine? Ive heard of numerous head gasket issues/over heating being the cause,valves burning for same reason. Usually by the 15,000 mile mark if its going to happen.
@bigals.ktms.9937
@bigals.ktms.9937 3 жыл бұрын
The 690 is a compromise between road and dirt, you say its not that good at this and that while your leaning on a fucken bus, take some concrete and harden up.
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 3 жыл бұрын
concrete? is that some sort of male enhancement or something?
@bigals.ktms.9937
@bigals.ktms.9937 3 жыл бұрын
@@BigRockMoto for you it probably is lol.
@afandou1966
@afandou1966 3 жыл бұрын
Vibrations reduced in the 2019 2020.
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, 100%
@brianparshall8231
@brianparshall8231 4 жыл бұрын
I hope your not ridding that big bmw unless you only ride fire roads id like to try the new ktm 790 adventure r i think its light a nuf for more serious off roading and i know 100 lbs more than a 690 enduro but at 95 hp it has a better power to weight ratio than the exc 500 or 690 enduro and more than a nuf power to shred a canyon blast up a hill or cruise at 85 mph i don't feel like it's a heavy enduro more like the most off road capable adventure bike ever made plus a 5 gallon tank that sits low all tho my rides are only about 500 miles and less usually more like 150 so if your going to ride 1000 miles i could see wy you'd want a bigger bike if you remember the ktm 950 super enduro it weighs all most the exact same as the 790 adventure r and only had 3 more hp but was a 950 v twin id like like to see a 790 super enduro r closer to 300 lbs that would the ultimate long range enduro thanks i enjoyed your video thumbs up
@zmxncbv951753
@zmxncbv951753 4 жыл бұрын
I will buy the 690 soon. U shouldn't own a Ktm the GS is good for you. U look like the Starbucks guy.
@Macgregor_images
@Macgregor_images 2 жыл бұрын
100%
@sirtaki2393
@sirtaki2393 2 жыл бұрын
The 2022 is much better, I think
@limbandtreeremoval
@limbandtreeremoval 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's not the bike's!
@chocoj3648
@chocoj3648 2 жыл бұрын
BMW…..??????? Noooo
@Junior-Dragstar
@Junior-Dragstar 4 жыл бұрын
Drive a car - no vibration 😁 Moto isn't for you
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 4 жыл бұрын
Ok, I quit.
@Kaegis
@Kaegis 3 жыл бұрын
Tenere 700
@rajanrairealty8979
@rajanrairealty8979 2 жыл бұрын
701 lr
@hmmv4
@hmmv4 4 жыл бұрын
Tenere 700 will be the unicorn
@jadoune340
@jadoune340 4 жыл бұрын
to me, 73 HP is not enough.for a unicorn.
@hmmv4
@hmmv4 4 жыл бұрын
@@jadoune340 For a non-race bike the hp is not bad. You can still do some decent offroad with it and cruise at 75 on the highway. The high hp bikes` weight is just too much on the trail.
@jadoune340
@jadoune340 4 жыл бұрын
@@hmmv4 KTM 790 adventure 95 HP, better suspension, same weight than the Tenere 700, might be a unicorn.
@hmmv4
@hmmv4 4 жыл бұрын
@@jadoune340 I hope I get a chance to ride both
@jjjjjjjjrifufjssjosskenf
@jjjjjjjjrifufjssjosskenf 4 жыл бұрын
There is no unicorn. I tried for many years to find the one magical bike and it doesn’t exist. I have a KTM 150 for enduro and looking at a 790 for road and dual sport. I tried to make it work with the 500exc and it just sucks on the highway
@Senna1forever
@Senna1forever 3 жыл бұрын
Please stop making reviews......
@mesbahe
@mesbahe 4 жыл бұрын
first
@logan2906
@logan2906 4 жыл бұрын
9,224th
@mesbahe
@mesbahe 4 жыл бұрын
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