Why I went with RaceTech Cartridge Emulators over Cogent DDC's for my DR650 and how they work!

[@nevillegreg1]

I had these installed in my FXLR (Harley) together with Race Tech springs. The improvement was immediately noticeable and phenomenal.

[@TurdsAreOrganic]

Thank you so much for making this video. I had just purchased the same emulators for my 2020 to 650 and was very frustrated or disappointed when I saw the biker bits video and he completely bypassed the drilling process. It’s surprising to me that race tech has not produced a detailed video on the set up and installation of these valves. I’m sure it would save them a lot of customer service calls with frustrated purchasers.

[@MEGLADAD]

I just wanna say thanks for explaining this so well..I used this understanding and applied it to suit my Harley suspension..👌👍

[@jimsummerville715]

Great to see a video of the DR650 with a rider of similar weight of 290 lbs. Good point about you need to drill the damping rods so the Cartridge Emulators are doing the valving.

[@asingh1000]

One of the best explained video on Gold Valve Emulators, so thank you! Did you manage to get the check valve spring rate? The spring used for Shim opening (Not the compression valve main spring)? This info is missing everywhere online.

[@OgreMoto]

No I did not. Sorry.

[@aacycleproducts]

Good video, i have them in my 1982 Yamaha Seca 650 Turbo and it took away the pogo stick action.

[@R2FortyFive]

Thank you for the helpful insights.

[@Kjutte1]

MIne also said 4 holes in the plate, but that didn't make sense to me. I installed it with two holes (to try before making any changes), and 20W oil. RT said 15W. Even at 2 holes and 20W oil it was UNDERdampened in compression, but rebound was perfect. I believe it also said 3 revolutions of preload on the spring, and middle spring strength. Take these recommendations with a pinch of salt; ride your bike.

[@OgreMoto]

@@Kjutte1 that’s the joy of the racetech is that it’s very tunable.

[@Kjutte1]

@@OgreMoto Agreed buddy, but the point was mainly that the recommendations that came with it was crap

[@OgreMoto]

@@Kjutte1 depends on the person and your preference honestly. Racetechs setup was damn near perfect for me.

[@Kjutte1]

@@OgreMoto Happy to hear!

[@armarra]

As there are two springs of different stiffness I just wonder if the emulators control the flow in both directions, with one spring pushing back against the compression movement of oil and the other against rebounding movement of oil. Otherwise why have two springs ? I like the fact it allows for compression damping but I'm thinking the oil flows both ways and two springs present means it probably allows rebound damping

[@markmather9223]

Would have been helpfull if you would have shown the drill out part. How may holes what size bit? Still in the dark there.

[@OgreMoto]

If I recall correctly, Racetech includes a full instruction sheet online through a token they provide when you buy the valve. What you drill out in the damping rod and how big the holes are dependent on what you input into their valving application. So saying that information would mean nothing as you and I are two different sizes, weights, and have 2 different riding styles.

[@drewadams2560]

Great vid. Thanks mate

[@michaelmorley331]

Great input..very relevent for me..6'9 290..componentry does not exist for me..I have to create/ adapt components to work..thanks

[@TurdsAreOrganic]

BTW, I did look through all of your past videos and never did see a follow up video about this modification. Can you at least post her in the comments the upshot or result of your installation? In front end performance and dampening? Thanks, Richard.

[@OgreMoto]

It vastly changes it for the better. I wouldn’t hesitate to do it again. You can take corners faster, actually hit jumps, and it handles my weight so much better than the forks did stock.

[@mikeschlup5279]

Rebound is probably more important than compression dampening...in reality it is 50 % of the equation..does the valving stiffen as the fork compresses?

[@OgreMoto]

I agree, that’s why I went with this solution! And yes it would stiffen the more the fork compresses because the valves is operated off of a spring itself. On top of that, the more oil you push to the other side of the valve, the more resistance you’re going to have because it basically acts as hydraulic fluid.

[@mikeschlup5279]

@@OgreMoto thankyou...trying to decide about where to send my 77 rm 125 resto mod project...forks are the last thing.

[@jimsummerville715]

Rebound is being tuned by using the suggested heavier 15wt fork oil, 10wt is stock on the DR650.

[@beartrax7709]

Can you share racetech model / part # for the DR650 ? Thanks !!

[@bobsadogtoo]

did you change your spring too? Sorry didn't watch the whole video yet but was curious

[@OgreMoto]

Yes

[@gunnsteinnjonsson9166]

Great video, thanks. Do l have to change the springs too? I like taking my Dl650 off road and l wouldn't mind having a better front suspension.

[@OgreMoto]

Spring rate is dependent on your weight and what you’re carrying

[@gunnsteinnjonsson9166]

@@OgreMoto @Ogre thanks for your answer. l was just wondering if l would getter better suspension if l only bought the Cartridge Emulators, or do l have to get new springs. I am 200 pounds so l am probably close to average weight.

[@diesel5460]

How would u control rebound when I release the compression the bike bounces uo an down a few times .so I'd like to stop that

[@kyecowen4583]

You ever get a chance to review these after going for a ride?

[@tedreed8084]

It is DAMPING not DAMPENING. No water is involved.

[@OgreMoto]

Sorry dad

[@fatdmk168]

Great thanks to you for your video! Really not a lot of info about it!

[@dphrenicyeah3688]

How are you liking them?

[@OgreMoto]

I sold the DR a while back, but from what I’ve ridden, I loved them man. Was a great mod.

[@SWATT101]

Did the mod and recommend