Why I will NEVER use a DIY round moss pole again

[@ThaoNguyen-hl6mb]

I just made my first DIY moss poles fully aware of the drying-out issue. So, I cheat! I packed a roll of 60% coco coir bits and 40% sphagnum moss. The coco bit core keeps the moisture in while the moss keeps the bits from falling out of the net. It has been 3 days and the pole is still moist inside :D. Also because I have to water the moss poles more often, I had to add more pumice and lava rocks into the pot to improve drainage. I'm thinking of experimenting with temporary crawlers on the moss pole to cover its surface.

[@EverythingPlants]

See...this is why I love reading the comments and everyone sharing their experiences. There is so many different ways of growing plants. Thanks for sharing your method

[@bobbiechinn9578]

@@EverythingPlants I like your response to this 😊

[@EverythingPlants]

@@bobbiechinn9578 thanks, Bobbie. I was actually just having a conversation about this with a good friend of mine.... There are many different ways to grow house plants and there is no one perfect way. Conditions in people's home maybe a different from others so it's nice to learn and see how everyone grows their plants

[@ThaoNguyen-hl6mb]

@Everything Plants This is true. I have a friend who would buy a lot of plants and get frustrated when they die off. Then, he thinks it's a waste of money because they are difficult to please. To me, they are like pets living in my home. So I either train them to my living conditions (or try to figure out the solutions to bridge the gaps 🙃), or I move on. After all, it's your home, you'd get to decide what works best for you.

[@RavenR6ix]

THANK YOU!!

[@thumpaharley7564]

I made my own plastic one think called lazy pole and worked really well. Apparently wasn’t lazy enough because I bought some from Amazon and I love them! Easy to make and like you said I can see roots! Have a great day! :)

[@EverythingPlants]

Nice! Which ones did you end up buying?

[@christinak9587]

@@EverythingPlants Here for the answer Lol

[@barbarahite176]

Agree about them drying out too fast. I've been thinking about running a piece of plastic, perhaps some strips from a clear cutting mat, down the inside of the back of the homemade pole to see if that improves moisture retention. I hate not using the poles I took time to make. 🤣

[@EverythingPlants]

See....I'm okay with abandoning something when I don't like it lol good on you for wanting to modify yours, but I've invested all the time I can with these ones hahaha

[@worldgonemad1977]

I repurposed some clear plastic folders. I made holes with a soldering iron and cable tie them together

[@sherryporsch9349]

Great idea!! 💚

[@sherryporsch9349]

@@worldgonemad1977 Another great idea! 💚

[@mickeysweets14]

You can add a plastic insert around the back when you make it to keep it wet longer. I use the table cloth cover plastic or cutting mats from dollar tree

[@agingintobeauty]

I wrapped my poles in clear plastic food wrap. The roots push through the plastic to get to the pole interior. I wrapped them after the plant had rooted into the pole but in the future I’ll wrap as I make my poles.

[@AW-bh6dy]

I was surprised to see the difference of the root growing. Thank you a good information.

[@EverythingPlants]

The philodendron has been on that plastic pole probably a few months longer than those DIY moss poles. So because of that you can't really compare the two but definitely the plastic outperformed the wire one

[@kailm.5107]

I have the worst luck with moss poles. I’m glad you are talking about them drying out. I live in a super arid climate and couldn’t keep up. Moss poles are great but they get blindly recommended to everyone and I ended up losing some plants due to the problem of over-drying.

[@EverythingPlants]

I've had much better luck with those plastic D shaped ones. Have you tried those???

[@meaganhelbig1824]

I recently started using the plastic poles and I love ‘em. Something I saw on IG was someone covering the “un used” portion of their pole with plastic wrap to keep the moisture in. Going to try that tonight !!

[@EverythingPlants]

So do you have both types of moss poles then?

[@patriciaboileau]

the link to buy this plastic pole please

[@EverythingPlants]

@@patriciaboileau I bought this from North Shore tropicals in Vancouver. I have thiccly moss poles on my Amazon affiliate links in the description of this video!

[@judymckerrow6720]

Thank you Jeff! I was worried that I didn’t pack my sphagnum moss tight enough in a pole I set up never having done that before. I bought some of the D plastic poles because I was hearing that everyone loved them but never having a moss pole before I didn’t know how tight to pack them. Your video showed me that I done good! Thank you! ❄️💚🙃

[@EverythingPlants]

Anytime Judy! How do you like the moss pole so far?

[@judymckerrow6720]

@@EverythingPlants I do really like it! ❄️💚🙃

[@pwachleman1]

I make my own d-shaped with chicken wire front and plastic back. Works much better than the plain plastic ones. If you want true stability with a moss pole it needs to sit on the bottom of the planter. Then fill in the soil around the moss pole

[@liteweightpup2561]

What kind of plastic did you use?

[@EverythingPlants]

I was just going to ask what type of plastic do you use for the back?

[@ashleybuffa7971]

@@EverythingPlants I’ve seen some other videos where people used A4 Report Cover plastic, hole punch it and zip tie it to the metal wire.

[@ashleybuffa7971]

Agree! I switched all of mine to the plastic D poles. They’re incredibly simple to assemble and pot up. Plus it’s so much easier to wet the moss in my opinion. I just use my sprayer with the stream setting & there’s zero mess like the wire ones. And like your plant, my aerial roots grew into the plastic ones within weeks.

[@EverythingPlants]

Hey Ashley. I agree with everything you said about it being easier in every way haha

[@Epiphalactic]

Mess? I just pop a few holes in the top of a water bottle and invert it into the top of the moss poles. Water slowly drips out and into the moss pole. Come back in a few hours/ whenever it's. Empty and check moisture. Pop in another if need be. .

[@ashleybuffa7971]

@@Epiphalactic a mess depending on how dry the moss can get, Bec if it’s completely dried out most times you have to pre dampen it with a sprayer of some sort. And dried moss crumbles off and falls all around. I don’t have any of those issues with the D Shaped plastic ones

[@ildikojones7073]

I’m so over the moss poles I made with the sweat of my brow! They dry out quickly, they shed and they make me worry about root rot bc of the frequent watering. I have killed some plants this way already ! I’m definitely not going to make any more moss poles but I have yet to decide what to do with the remaining ones. Great clip, as always, Jeff. Thank you! And good luck finding your ever disappearing pencil 😂!

[@EverythingPlants]

Thanks ildiko! And I have my pencil lol

[@SarahONeillPhotography]

I do it the same way Jeff ... I take my damp moss and use bamboo or whatever to tuck it down, already assembled vertically - find it works best as well.

[@EverythingPlants]

I find it works best! Thanks Sarah

[@hazelfuncion277]

Im using the pvc coated moss pole and i am loving it;

[@EverythingPlants]

Where did you get it from? And is it just a PVC pipe?

[@glorianayeagley9258]

Hi 👋 perfect timing for this video! I purchased the plastic pole ,but couldn't figure it out no instructions included .Will be changing my too. Thank you

[@EverythingPlants]

Yay! Good luck Gloriana

[@jaleesah]

Thanks for doing the experimenting for the rest of us. I live in Saskatchewan too and I've been struggling to get my philodendrons to grow into a moss pole. I'm going to try those plastic D shaped ones.

[@EverythingPlants]

They aren't cheap but definitely work. Here is the link to the THICCLY poles on my Amazon page. amzn.to/3I9VHOm I'm in Regina!

[@lostineggsaisle]

Is there a good way to minimize overwatering at the base when using these? Im very new to this. I rescued a philodendron from the kroger clearance section and it is growing beautifully. I got it last spring and its already 4 times latger than ot was when i got it. It was practically dead. I got a moss pole on amazon, but kt doesnt hold ANY moisture at all. Im wanting to make my own or use one of the D shaped ones to replace the one i have. I have a water meter, but if the pole dries out and the base is wet how do i wet the pole? Spray it? I have it in an orchid potting medium mixed with tropical plant medium.

[@vinsoriano493]

You can use cheap plastic cutting board from dollar tree for the backing or smart water bottles split in half for the backing

[@JoelDeGan]

You can wrap the round ones in Saran Wrap and poke holes when a root attachment starts…

[@EverythingPlants]

Nice!

[@marcelveldbloem7431]

I have a question Is the plastic pole youare now using sturdy enough to support the accumulating weight of the plants I feel like it could collaps ?

[@EverythingPlants]

I have a large splendid on a total of 4 poles. Hasn't collapsed yet!

[@karinchristensen220]

I wrapped mine with flat sheets of coir. They stay moist much longer. I only water once a week. Plus it covers up the ugly wire.

[@EverythingPlants]

Wow...that is genius!!!

[@karinchristensen220]

@@EverythingPlants Thanks. Plus since the coir sheets are more solid I mixed the moss with about half of my potting mix which also helps hold in the moisture. It is kind of like having a really tall pot.

[@trinity7235]

i love your videos :) you have a very relatable, calm and pleasant personality! thanks for the great stuff!!

[@EverythingPlants]

Thanks Trinity!

[@cynthiakennedy4143]

I just made my first diy moss pole but it's a combination of what I had on hand peat moss coco coir a bit of soil and some pine pet bedding because I saw something talking about diy moss poles drying out if you use just moss and then had list of other materials to use to help lock in more moisture longer... just set it up a few days ago then we got rain the past few days so I put my plant out to get watered a for about an hr or less and so far it's holding moisture really well since... can't really say how well it will work but I hope it can withstand Texas weather... and FYI I made it for my first mini monstera I spontaneously bought last week without thinking... I plan on getting stackable moss poles if it doesn't work out

[@jyvaineorchids2255]

Hello, i have the same problem with moss poles, so i think i'll make an hybride between the classic and plastic, i'll keep thèses classics in place but i'll put a transparent plastic emballage around it.

[@EverythingPlants]

Nice! The plastic ones hold on the moisture so much better

[@ninasuculentasymas]

Hello!! Totally agree!!! I also went to the plastic backs. 🙋🏼‍♀️💚🪴

[@EverythingPlants]

Nina....did you make your own?

[@ninasuculentasymas]

@@EverythingPlants yes. Bought the plastic at Home Depot and getting some from Etsy/Amazon. I just cut some chicken wire for the front and used tie wraps. It gives it more support than the full plastic ones. Hope this helps.

[@marieb3630]

I just added heavy gauge plastic around my plastic covered chicken wire moss pole. I feel the wire covered provide great support for larger plants.

[@EverythingPlants]

I've heard a few people doing this! Thanks for sharing

[@zulmabontiffe487]

There has to be better method !! I just saw a video on this and it showed some mole/mildew around the base of the pole. Will fungus Nats find its home with all that material?? How will you extend it as the plant continues to climb and you run out of hight? It looks like MORE work than anything just to install this. The plastic one looks a lot more efficient for the purpose. I just have A LOT of concern .. the constant vigilance about drying out, if you have to repot because the plant is too big or heavy for the pot, if the plant for some reason starts looking really bad and you have to remove it out then that for me gives me something to think about. I'm just needing something to get my PATHOS plant to climb up since it's very long. I ordered some pols just yesterday without getting the important information that I needed. You just opened my eyes to see where the issues could arise for me. I will check with my local garden center and see what I can use instead that will last longer and not deteriorate or cause other problems that may cause the loss of your plants. Too many questions right now, bit I do thank you for the info. Have a super great day everyone. 😊

[@Enn-]

I guess you could put a plastic sheet in the back of your wire mesh, or even a small board. Evaporation isn't an issue I had considered in the past. Thanks for your perspective!

[@EverythingPlants]

Yes, I've thought of those ideas but I'm worried about the way it would look. I know the plastic poles are expensive but in my opinion they look much better. And let's be honest nothing in the plant hobby is cheap lol

[@arun.sekher]

​@@EverythingPlants Can use zip ties to secure plastic sheet to the wire mesh or just use velcro straps at may be 6 inches intervals to keep it in place without compromising the aesthetic. Also the 6 cm diameter for the pole is a sweet spot making it saturate easily from centre to periphery thus keeping it moist for longer. When the diameter is big the peripheries won't get saturated easily with top trickle watering technique. Growth of algae too is a key factor for keeping the moisture locked in for long. I am in a hot arid climate (Middle East) and the Sydney plant guy style poles works fine for me.

[@SuperDrefuss]

I have a mix of both, but you’re right. I think I might, instead of changing the wire ones I might find a way to cover the back side.

[@EverythingPlants]

Let me know how your alterations go!

[@SuperDrefuss]

@@EverythingPlants working well. Quickly completed three today. Several more to go. I recorded it and may post it. It’s worth the hack.

[@lindamacgregor3637]

I make my own moss pole and place a pieced of clear self liner behind it before I zip tie the back or you can also add the plastic behind the moss pole if you already zip tied it.

[@EverythingPlants]

Nice!

[@mikedecem]

Yesterday i removed all moss from my round moss poles and inserted transparent plastic sheet inside and put moss back. I let 3cm wide empty strip in front of the stem. Easy , fast, looks good, still sturdy without plastic look :)

[@EverythingPlants]

You placed the plastic inside the round pole to cover up the back, right? I've never done that before. How's does it look?

[@mikedecem]

@@EverythingPlants My moss poles dried up in 1-1.5 day completely and as you know it makes no sense to have moss poles which are more dry than wet. I was watering them frequently, plants shooted roots into it and when i was few days away all aerial roots dried up. I dont wanna be slave of my moss poles. Im experimenting also with different media (never seen someone using it, looks promising but i`ll will tell you later when its successful). Back to your question - yes. I made D-shape from chicken wire. Counted 14 holes, cut the strip, bent it right after 3rd hole , connected sides. Counted 11 holes * width of eye to cut the plastic sheet, inserted in. Moss holds up from 1-1.5 day to 1 week (depends on your humidity and light conditions) until its almost completely dry/crunchy so im basically watering moss poles when i water plants. Big advantage is that even if its a bit dry, moss is hydrophobic and im sure you know how hard is to water them when they dry up. Water everywhere. Now with plastic sheet water it stays inside instead of flowing out of every hole. Image : imgur.com/a/0hLhrLi EDIT : forgot to mention that i also made D-shaped cover from same plastic sheet to cover up top of the moss pole to minimize evaporation. Also , if you want to make additional pole on top of existing one, just grab the sheet, pull it out a stick another on top (plastic sheet is touching bottom of the pot so its on whole lenght of pole for this purpose so i can pull it up when i add extension).

[@justanotherfaceinthecrowd]

I used protective clear pvc tablecloth and cable tied it to the back half of each pole.. the plastic ones aren’t strong enough to support a big plant.. my moss poles are 2m/7ft tall.. I water them using a cup on the top with a hole in and use 1pint every other day in winter and everyday in summer

[@EverythingPlants]

Do you like the way it looks? Functionality is one thing....but it sounds like you are pretty much watering everyday anyways. Thanks for sharing your setup!

[@justanotherfaceinthecrowd]

@@EverythingPlants can’t really see them apart from the tops for most of them…I used to remove the cups but that got old quick 😂 Ye when it gets hot ☀️ it’s a bit of a nightmare I have around 30 on poles plus 100+ other plants in various mediums ..

[@hojiscott733]

You might be able to save the wire ones by covering the back half with plastic

[@EverythingPlants]

Ya....but I would have to invest more time and money into it and at this point I'm ready to just move on hahaha

[@upAcreekCAM]

especially if you use some pieces of repurposed existing plastic like a length of old gutter or recycled yogurt containters :)

[@sofienly]

I love all you plant videos, I have it on while doing chores 😊, ❤keep it up:)

[@EverythingPlants]

Sweet...thanks!

[@fabriziaromano8038]

Another informative video! Perhaps this question has already been asked, but where do you buy the plastic poles?

[@EverythingPlants]

The link to my Amazon page, which has these specific ones, are in the description of this video

[@whiskybrush3219]

I totally agree on the drying out aggravation factor. Its not a practical application in our climate. Unfortunately a plastic/mesh combo doesnt work for me at all either because my plants all need to be situated right in the window to get sufficient light and i rotate the pole to manage the growth all around the pole. The only thing i have found to help keep the moss consistently moist moist is a plastic cup with a single hole burned with a tailor pin. Fill up the cups in the morning, and it maintains the moss 24 hrs. Skip a day though? Have to rehydrate the whole thing from scratch. I have toyed with the idea of running a wick down the centre of my next pole construction. I'm just working around a way of conecting the wicks when comes the time to add a pole extention. Havent figured a practical method for that yet.

[@EverythingPlants]

That is actually very interesting about the wick idea.... Let me know if you do find a solution to the problem

[@SherryBerryXO]

This was super helpful! Thank you 🙏 I totally agree with everything you’ve mentioned. Ordering some plastic ones today

[@Inverts4Introverts]

So with the plastics, how will you extend the pole? Are they sturdy enough to do so? Also, have Watched the channle Sydney plant guy?

[@EverythingPlants]

@@Inverts4Introverts kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZmTceWN7rtmVn8Usi=gwmN7G5LbbMDDiQe Check out one of my more recent videos which has four plastic poles. They connect together very easily..... The top one you squeeze slightly to fit into the bottom pole. Having a good sturdy pot also helps as well. I know of the channel but personally I don't watch it. But thanks so much for watching my video and commenting!

[@Inverts4Introverts]

I'll definitely check that video out! Also, not that your plants don't look great, but if you wanted to master the moss poles, he has taught me so much. I'd highly suggest giving a few videos a watch.

[@EverythingPlants]

@Inverts4Introverts I have watch some in the past....but thanks so much for the suggestion!

[@hamtons1990]

hi, where can I get the D shaped moss poles in your video? Thanks!

[@EverythingPlants]

I use Thiccly poles and I have them on my Amazon links in the description of the video!

[@brandygrandon8101]

hello,what is the plastic called and where can i get it?

[@EverythingPlants]

I use THICCLY grow poles. There is an Amazon link in the description of this video....or just search online

[@brandygrandon8101]

thank you,i will look into it@@EverythingPlants

[@plantypittsburgh]

So if you were growing to size up and propogate for a fuller pot, could you just use a stake and then air propagate with the same results?

[@EverythingPlants]

I will be doing this exact thing when my pothos outgrow the planks!

[@michaelibk418]

This is an old video but why didn't you just modify your moss pole with a plastic part? I know the available plastic poles but didn't like them because they are to short and light and not really extendable. For me the wire is the most flexible option in diameter and length but as you said there are more than one way to grow plants. Learned al lot from your content, thank you so much, Greetings from Austria.

[@EverythingPlants]

I've been using some of those plastic poles for a while now and really like them. I agree that the downfall of these is they are too short. I may try another DIY pole at some point but right now I don't have any motivation to do so lol. Thanks so much for watching my video!

[@ryansmith83]

Is there a way to extend the poles like you can with the wire ones? Even at 30” tall with the wire ones, some plants outgrow them fast. It’d be nice to have a way to chop and extend them like Sydney Plant Guy does. Also, the plastic doesn’t seem very sturdy at all for something big and heavy like Monstera deliciosa. Would you have to put some kind of support or stake inside the plastic to stabilize it and make it heavier?

[@EverythingPlants]

You can definitely extend the plastic poles. With the ones that I have, you connect them together by placing one slightly inside the other then it clips in. If you were to add another one then I would definitely place a support stake inside the pool at the back to add support. For plants like monstera, they don't necessarily need a moss pull to grow into they just need a support stake to grow upwards. They have large aerial roots that grow like crazy spaghetti so they don't need a moss pole. Hahaha

[@heatherstephens9295]

I just insert a clear disposable cup into the top of my moss poles that I have pierced a small hole in & top that up with water to trickle down during the day. Not a problem for me but I don’t have as many as you do. I have got some plastic ones I have yet to try but they are pricey 😬

[@EverythingPlants]

Yes, they are pricey for sure....

[@marylalone7104]

Great idea Heather,

[@heatherstephens9295]

@@marylalone7104 it works really well Mary 👍

[@marylalone7104]

Thanks for this idea. I was going to buy cups when I realized I could cut the tops off plastic water bottles and turn them into free “cups” instead of throwing them away. I can then fill them easily from the top with a watering can or the hose. I’m going to try “embedding” them down into the tops of my moss poles, with moss around them to disguise them a bit. It should work well if I can remember to refill them before the pole moss dries out fully. Great idea. 😀

[@heatherstephens9295]

@@marylalone7104 yes that’s a great idea Mary. My cups are buried down but I will have to pull the moss around them 👍 If I have forgotten I just give them a couple of refills & that sorts the moss out pretty quickly - so easy 😊

[@dlfoster311]

I'm looking to do a hybrid of the two DIY. A flag metal mesh that the plant grows up, and solid plastic backing in a D shape.

[@SSaaNNddYY77]

Good to know! Will buy some of these!

[@MyLocsMyPlants]

I was trying to figure out what I wanted to do with my verrucosum It has 3 leaves with another coming in I think I'll try the plastic poles!

[@EverythingPlants]

I hated any moss pole until I tried the plastic ones....good luck with yours when you get it

[@MyLocsMyPlants]

@@EverythingPlants thanks!

[@PattyJoy]

I have been concerned about overwatering my Monstera Standleyana and Adonsonii and my Raphidophora Tetrasperma that are on thiccly poles. I do have to water the poles every few days, but I'm still worried about overwatering the pot itself.

[@EverythingPlants]

Hey Patty, I completely understand what you mean. What do you use to water the moss? Do you have a misting spray bottle? That's all I would do is just lightly spray down the moss so that it doesn't drip into the soil

[@PattyJoy]

@@EverythingPlants I have little glass globes to put water in to water but I may have to go to a mister or a squirter bottle. I just want to also ensure that the moss is wet enough. I'm still sorting it out...but I guess that's part of the fun 💚🪴 I love your videos...thanks!

[@diannenaworensky6698]

Wonder if the metal moss pole would work better outside ?????

[@EverythingPlants]

Guess it depends on your locations humidity or if you can keep it moist.....🤷

[@tubssamterracegardeningvlo1251]

very nice video 👍 happy gardening 💐

[@EverythingPlants]

Thanks Tubssam

[@bonder7870]

Q. With the plastic poles how hard us it to add more sections to it? Also how much damage to the plant is done if you want to take it off / out of the plastic pole?

[@bobbiechinn9578]

Good idea

[@EverythingPlants]

Thanks Bobbie

[@iddybiddyladybugleeza909]

I got these plastic ones but mine are so dry!

[@EverythingPlants]

How fast do they dry out after watering?

[@iddybiddyladybugleeza909]

@@EverythingPlants I’m horrible at watering & most my plants are in self watering pots. One stayed wet the other dry 🤷🏻‍♀️ I made both pots the same!

[@wendyrossman3756]

Is there a reason why to use a moss pole over a plank? Trying to figure this out before I add larger plants to my collection. Thanks.

[@meaganhelbig1824]

I think he talked about it in the beginning. The moss poles over better stability for the roots and they can get added nutrition if you water with any additives

[@EverythingPlants]

Yup....like these comments stated!

[@jaebebe22]

Great vid! Do you have a link for the plastic moss poles?

[@EverythingPlants]

Thanks! Here are the US and Canada Amazon links amzn.to/3mXByni www.amazon.com/shop/everythingplants/list/1KFDGDTGISAV4?linkCode=spc&tag=jeffschulte0f-20&domainId=influencer&asc_contentid=amzn1.ideas.1KFDGDTGISAV4

[@jaebebe22]

@@EverythingPlants thanks so much!

[@joankennes3230]

Look up Thiccly. There are knock-off brands, but they are not as eco-friendly (recycled plastics).

[@janeblaze70]

@@EverythingPlants Did you actually pay $50 for these pieces of plastic?

[@EverythingPlants]

They were on sale.....and like mentioned above there are many other alternatives. But unfortunately that is kind of the price for these things, at least in Canada....between 7-8 bucks per pole. And growing anything with moss is not cheap. That's why I also grow a lot of plants on wood planks haha

[@lourdeslopez9833]

I had the same problem.

[@stephaniefraser177]

Thanks for sharing !

[@EverythingPlants]

Thanks for watching!

[@cscreative5460]

I had to stop using mine as well. I don’t even know if it was wet for the full day 🥴

[@EverythingPlants]

Me too! It wasn't good haha

[@Chaos3183]

I dont want to say too much especially because i'm watching this video 9 months later but your relative humidity is only at 50 percent that's not high at all for those plants or the moss which means it will dry out fast. If anyhing your humidity need to increase at least 15 to 20 percent for those moss poles to be decently effective. My house stays dry like that so I either wrap the pole in cling wrap OR I lay plastic on the back half of the pole to ensure it stays moist longer. I mean those plastic ones work just as well. Also chicken wire is terrible for this. Try grate that goes over water gutters that actually has a coating on it.

[@PurpleMonkeyWaffle]

Yeah and did you see how many gaps there are in his pole? not nearly enough moss.

[@Chaos3183]

@@PurpleMonkeyWaffle Yeah that doesn't help either. When I first used moss in chicken wire and the moss would get like that specifically because it was so dry. No plants going to want that.

[@ravensdotter6843]

Where to get the plastic pole?

[@EverythingPlants]

Depending on where you live I guess. I have a link in the video to my Amazon store with this specific grow pole, but they are expensive (mine were on sale lol at the time) Some plant shops sell them as well. I just searched out D shape plastic moss poles on Google

[@pjaneheil]

Hello, im new to ur channel, i was watching this video, ur referring to ur new plastic pole, do you have a video on how you made your plastic moss pole plzzzz ???? Love ur video ❣️❣️❣️

[@bugsandbrushes]

Never tried it myself but sydney plant guy seems to have the solution for this.

[@EverythingPlants]

Assuming his humidity is much higher than mine in Canada....that's why it doesn't work for me

[@abriellehawkins9211]

I make mine out of Clorox wipes bottles and just cut holes for each node… it dryers out wayyyy slower

[@EverythingPlants]

That is pretty cool!!!!

[@gypsylee333]

The plastic they use when they sell them for poles, like the kind you have there, is SOOO thin! It's literally as thick as paper! I bought 3 of them and was not at all happy with that, it feels so flimsy. Once all the bark and moss is in it's sturdier, but I wish they used a thicker plastic, I don't think it could support a large heavy plant.

[@EverythingPlants]

For a large one you could always add a support stake through the back (like inside the moss pole) for extra support

[@dollycaldwell4938]

I LOVE those plastic ones!

[@EverythingPlants]

Do you have a brand you buy?

[@dollycaldwell4938]

@@EverythingPlants this is what i have been using: LIZHOUMIL 4pcs 24 Inch Plastic Moss Poles Set for Plants Monstera Plant Stakes Gardening Plant Support Sticks for Indoor Climbing Plants/from amazon/good pricing/ I am VERY new to LECA & moss poles & my plants have done very well on these!! Which means they must be good as I am no wizard. They are lightweight, just pay attention to instuctions when folding them

[@charlottesedita3136]

Wh Ere did u purchase plastic moss pole

[@EverythingPlants]

I get them from 2 places. Click the link in the description of this video for the Thiccly moss pole on my Amazon page. The other is from North Shore Tropicals in Vancouver Canada

[@Ak3am]

I recently started wrapping the backs of my moss poles in plastic for this reason

[@EverythingPlants]

Nice! Have you tried the plastic moss poles?

[@KSGirl03]

I think you should make stickers or merch that say “Absolutely bone dry” 😊

[@EverythingPlants]

Hahaha....I do say it often I know 😂

[@KSGirl03]

But in all seriousness, love your videos and I’ve learned so much!

[@AnonymousAmyMakes]

I just wish someone would show me how to 1)keep my moss poles standing upright. And 2) get a big moss pol along with a plant in a small pot!! I end up with a big pot, barely any plant, and a pole that wobbles constantly.

[@EverythingPlants]

What type of pole do you use? I place mine all the way at the bottom of the pot and then fill in the soil

[@AnonymousAmyMakes]

@@EverythingPlants Thank you for responding. I attempted to use a pvc pipe, wrapped with sphagnum moss and plastic mesh held closed with zip ties. It wouldn't stay upright at all. I ended up removing it. I'm thinking about trying the D shaped poles in your video. Those look like they may work well! Thanks again!

[@MarisaAndChew]

I can only think of Nora and Sydney plant guy, off hand, who the open poles seem to really work for and I'm thinking it's because of their natural heat and humidity in Australia. I don't know their weather specifically but I have a friend in Queensland which is far more north and the sun rises and sets at 7 through the entire year and while he does get down to 0 at night in winter there are also days in his winter that are as warm as our Summer. He seems me pictures lots of his weather station thingy in the house and the humidity outside in summer is normally closer to 80-90 percent and around 40 degrees C, even at night 😭. They have a hurricane season but I can't recall the word they use for them, cyclones? And can get a ton of torrential rain. This year was so bad that he had frogs and snakes in his gutters 🤢 Anyway, he collects orchids and grows mostly in moss and they have huge roots and he waters weekly. He's never complained to me about crunchy moss and since he collects he would water quicker if the moss wasn't moist. He grows them both inside and outside and they all have the same watering schedule. If Sydney plant guy and Nora have similar humidity levels and light patterns it would make sense why their poles work so well for them. I'm the land of Canada we are not blessed with consistent or predictable weather! PS I'll take the weird dry to super wet weather with minus 40 any day over snakes and frogs having a turf war in my gutters BC it's raining 🤮

[@EverythingPlants]

I agree.... Canadian temps are ideal for the round moss poles. So far I'm very happy with the plastic one. I will have to disagree with you about the weather....I love the heat and humidity haha

[@MarisaAndChew]

@@EverythingPlants in that case, next winter you should vacation in McKay Queensland! I am happy around 24 and sunny but I can't sleep when I'm warm. 37 would put me in the hospital, and that's not an exaggeration.

[@EverythingPlants]

25 with higher humidity would be perfect

[@heatherstephens9295]

Queensland weather is very different to Sydney weather 👍

[@bernadettekennedy2981]

Why not wrap the poles with plastic?

[@EverythingPlants]

Because that's more money and time hahaha

[@2412JMiller]

I would take a free one to try 😅❤

[@EverythingPlants]

Which one? Lol

[@JC84-r8x]

Hi where I can find the plastic?

[@joankennes3230]

Look up Thiccly.

[@vikarinamelia6128]

@@joankennes3230 These plastic poles r so expensive. no chance im gonna replace my over 15 mosspoles with this stuff.. i mean 5 of them cost 50€, they r 40cm high. i need to spend more than 350€ to replace them. ridiculously overpriced for some plastic tbh. wont gonna support that.

[@EverythingPlants]

See...that's the good thing about choice. If you dont like something then you don't have to buy it. There are many different options out there with how to grow your plants. There are definitely methods that I do not like for reasons such as cost or even the way they look. Plant collecting is not cheap, but there are ways I'm sure we all try and save money. Everyone has their own reasons for why they purchase something, so I'm glad you are content with the DIY type poles

[@JC84-r8x]

@Joan Kennes Thanks for reply:-)

[@carolstuff]

I agree that the moss poles are only effective if it has a plastic backing.

[@EverythingPlants]

Thanks Carol!!!

[@tonyabrown39]

I just ordered some😊

[@EverythingPlants]

Nice! Which brand?

[@tonyabrown39]

The one u linked! I have to copy u! lol

[@EverythingPlants]

@@tonyabrown39 nice! I actually really like this one. Let me know what you think of them when you get it

[@vikarinamelia6128]

Of course, this variant of the moss stick has the disadvantage that it is simply more maintenance-intensive. but the main reason for me was simply the extremely low acquisition costs. with many plants, very high acquisition costs develop very quickly when switching to plastic moss sticks. in my case I would have to invest several hundred euros because the current range of good alternatives is simply overpriced.

[@EverythingPlants]

Yes....these are expensive and in my opinion about double what they should actually be priced at. Unfortunately growing with moss, no matter which way, isn't cheap. The chicken wire DIY roll wasn't cheap as well, but I definitely could make more than what I was getting in the plastic moss pole pack. And honestly I HATE the look of the wire poles, so I'm okay with not having them. Haha

[@heatherstephens9295]

Once the wire ones are covered in leaves you can’t see the mesh 👍

[@ot7stan207]

I dont even think a wet moss pole is necessary. in the wild they just grow on trees and dont grow roots INTO the substrate so I think a dry moss in the pole is enough

[@lifepathjourney3638]

I'm Not a Fan of Moss Poles, looks like it would attract Fungus Gants. And honestly it just ugly 🤣 it don't go with nothing 🤦 I'll keep using my "Wooden Planks".

[@EverythingPlants]

Don't tell anyone, but I still love my wood planks too

[@kendravoracek3636]

💚💚

[@EverythingPlants]

Thanks, Kendra

[@marciagarcia8486]

I am a newby in moss poles, but logically thinking 💭 I inserted plastic on the back of my poles. Can’t tell yet if it works, but I can see the “swet” on the plastic… same as we see inside the orquid pots as well. So, let’s see

[@EverythingPlants]

Keep me posted with how it works for you. Thanks Marcia

[@marciagarcia8486]

Actually I just inserted plastic sheets I upcycled from documents pastes (that’s what I had lol) . I covered half of the pole while closing (“burrito way”) - keeping them on the back half, inside the pole. Almost can’t see them, kept the pole nice and clean. Looks good so far, definitely this one keeps the moisture more than the other

[@phongdang2874]

Plastic wrap …

[@virginiamartinez391]

💚🌿🌱💚👍🏽👌🏽

[@EverythingPlants]

Thanks!

[@donnaallgaier-lamberti3933]

It's hard to find another kind of pole that is attractive and workable. I have never sprayed the moss. I just use a pole for support. I just do not like how the moss poles look. I've used driftwood, new round dowels and even just found sticks. Sorry but I do NOT like the look of the plastic!

[@EverythingPlants]

Hey Donna....that's the great thing about plants is there are many ways to grow them. I also like the look of drift wood and planks

[@Epiphalactic]

"because I like these other ones better" Lol. Got it. I'm not a huge fan of the titles like this. Overdramatized for clicks. Meh. We are plant ppl. We will click it anyway.

[@EverythingPlants]

Hey Austin....did you watch more then 5 seconds, because the reason I stated was because the DIY ones dry out way too fast in my conditions.....not "because I like these other ones better."

[@Epiphalactic]

@@EverythingPlants first off, I did. Did you read my comment? I know the REASON you don't. And it all boils down to preference and environment. You prefer the other, because in your experience the common design of diy Moss pole dries out to quickly. The title of the video is dramatized for clicks. My only point is that you could've said. Something like "my new favorite moss pole" and I'd have clicked on it still. And I think most that enjoy their plants and care about their plants enough to build them a moss pole would agree. The emphasis on "never" comes off as "there is a flaw with this thing to the point I won't ever use it again" and will very easily cause some people to think " oh, I have a diy Moss poles what's wrong with those? " And click the video only to get an ad for a moss pole. Anyway. Js man.

[@EverythingPlants]

Fair enough and thanks for clarifying your first comment. I try and establish titles that inspire interest and keep it related to the content. I get frustrated when these types of titles are used then it really has no relation to the video. Thanks for taking time to respond.