Why I won't learn OBL

[@CubeMasterYT]

TLDR: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6XcqZaLbdRjfKc

[@OxzowachiAlt]

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[@Canyonpettitt]

What does tldr mean?

[@OxzowachiAlt]

@@Canyonpettitt too long, didn't read

[@Canyonpettitt]

@@OxzowachiAlt thx

[@SameerAggarwal]

I'm trying hard not to cry rn

[@CubeMasterYT]

😢

[@OxzowachiAlt]

same

[@wildrubikslegokids1242]

Because of...? Him not switching or the pause alg pause thing?

[@SameerAggarwal]

@@wildrubikslegokids1242 Everything

[@wildrubikslegokids1242]

​@@SameerAggarwal I got this stupid scramble earlier today that has a one slice cubeshape into an OBL skip and is easily one lookable. Try it and see how fast you get on the first try. (-5,3)/ (-3,0)/ (-4,-4)/ (0,-3)/ (4,-2)/ (-3,-1)/ (3,-3)/ (3,0)

[@thephysicistcuber175]

"Sq1 is alg-pause-alg-pause, and I don't like it" *LIN HAS ENTERED THE CHAT.*

[@CubeMasterYT]

Lin is not a bad method, I think modern Lin is more interesting than OBL/PBL. More intuition/lookahead and professional solves are really interesting to watch!

[@sonyc04]

@@CubeMasterYT you just earned 69420 status points

[@ayanthalukdar]

@@CubeMasterYT +100000 aura

[@Flightkitten]

"I won't learn OBL." Famous last words

[@JTiger1046]

I think a lot of people are missing the point of this video. I agree with you on a lot of things you say and it makes sense why you personally don't like OBL and still recognise it as the fastest method currently, and the topics you tie into the discussion are really interesting. Really nice video!

[@wildrubikslegokids1242]

Using a different method from the other world class solvers gives you potential to get really lucky solutions they don't get which could in turn give you some really good singles.

[@svedebn]

this aged well

[@wildrubikslegokids1242]

@@svedebn WDYM?

[@Nehimsupacac]

this doesn't make a lot of sense. you get a chance to get lucky solves the others don't, but you can say the same thing the other way around. how is that an advantage??

[@gamer9smith]

@@Nehimsupacac It's just different, it's not necessarily better, but it could benefit him for a single

[@Nehimsupacac]

@@gamer9smith it could just as bad hurt him in a single that could have been great

[@RemyMS]

Few months later, he learned it

[@ryanchiang1202]

And then he proceeds to learn in a day. Either way, good job!

[@bigoofersrock]

This aged like milk

[@sixstringcalgh]

Love ya Sam, but it's definitely taken from the same angle of someone who a) like your first point is "lazy" and doesn't want to learn algs (understandable, but like you said, this is lower-effort than what you've learned before) and b) someone who is distant enough from a method to not understand it well enough, which you did state in your video as well. Like Daniel said in the sq1ers discord, people have different solutions, get different obls, pbls, etc. There's quite a bit of flexibility there that can be explored (and to some extent is explored). When I'm competing with people who also use OBL and PBL, I very rarely have the same solutions. Sometimes that's helpful, sometimes it's not. DLP is very viable and maybe even full OBLP (I definitely think so). This would also be a 2 look method and honestly feels more up your alley. You could even just do DLP and similarly to how you do PCOP and don't pause because you look at the last slice to see what's on the right bottom corners, you could do the same with DLP to learn only a few pieces. It would be more mentally taxing, but I think it honestly fits in with your solving style. The EO approach is also pretty interesting, but there are so many more algs you'd want to learn there specifically because of how each do you have has 16 permutations where the unsolved edges can be (minus things like opposite edges, solved edges (duh) and all edges). Effectively this is the same as learning 2 alg PBL 16x for most EO cases and I think there would be enough short algs to justify that, but I'm also saying this as someone as distant from that method as you are from OBL. I get you want to have fun with your method, but honestly OBL made sq-1 100x more fun to me *especially* since I learned it similar to F2L as intuitive approaches with algs for particularly hard cases, which helped with flexibility in my solutions. That being said, fun for one person isn't always fun for another. I also used to (and admittedly still do) preserve blocks when possible to hopefully get an OBL skip in CSP, but I realize that generally speaking, it gives worse cases to do that (although it does avoid Yoshi Yoshi). Also, your 4.45 was with OBL :) TL;DR I don't think you have enough experience with OBL to actually warrant what you've said. Sure, you don't have to learn it, but it's really easy and I think based off what you like doing in solves (in this video) I think you'd fall in love with OBL.

[@CubeMasterYT]

Hi, thanks for taking the time to watch/comment! There definitely is much more variety with OBL than I represented, but I still dislike the meta of pausing so much and continuous "recognize case, turn fast" cycle. I'm sure there's lots to OBL that I would enjoy, but there's other parts of Square-1 I find more interesting/want to work on (however as you mentioned, OBLP would definitely get me into the method more, however I still doubt how well it can be done let alone how well I can do it). I think OBL makes sense and is more fun for 99% of people since it's exponentially better than CO/EO, but I already have an "OBL" method that I enjoy and have been using for years that I don't want to give up... just yet. We'll see though :) Also, 4.45 was actually POBLP (these acronyms are getting too long lol)

[@DDHDTV]

Interesting 4x4 method wow. How do you do 6x6? If you can void parity in 6x6 constantly that could be a big avantage

[@janosaw1916]

In theory yes, however it probably wouldn't be worth it as you would have to have slower turning for an incredibly long time(if you know opa imagine that for 3-4x as long). It wouldn't be worth it to save 3-5 seconds.

[@ARTEMvorkhlik]

I've got the question. Does PBL work with parity? I mean if I don't know CSP, can I still use PBL ?

[@sicapanjesis3987]

Probably not I think, recognition would be crazy hard for pbl, and at that point just learn csp

[@ARTEMvorkhlik]

@@sicapanjesis3987 Do over 900 cases of pbl contain parity ones? So can i solve parity cases using pbl?

[@sicapanjesis3987]

@@ARTEMvorkhlik yeah, they contain parity cases, but no one in the world uses 900+ algs. They use csp and break the pbl in two short algs, which can be done in under 70-80 algs.

[@charlieharrison]

@@sicapanjesis3987 967 does not include parity cases. Daniel Karnaukh knows most of 1-alg PBL, but 2-alg is more worth it for certain cases

[@Luna77543]

They don’t, but you could just do the parity alg before PBL and and get one.

[@seb_bock_cubing]

This aged well lol

[@maxspezialbauag9745]

Great vid! Wich is the best square 1 for a person that likes speed?

[@BlueAcidball]

literally mgc

[@maxspezialbauag9745]

@@BlueAcidball thx bro

[@CompanionCube]

you can also look ahead with obl

[@tacodoes]

quick question how do you have the small red block on the left with white on top do you just take the cube apart and change the blocks or something?

[@allinonelegend1472]

I was also confused at first.But it is pretty easy you just need to take of and switch the center caps blue and green.

[@ThatCubeKidd]

9:00 Northeast Champs 2022 finals 4th solve be like

[@banditfishing1558]

This title aged well

[@amittiwari-tt4xr]

Which square 1 you will recommend for a beginner

[@fnravi]

The mgc is what everyone use now (except for me) but if you want the cheapest good square 1 you can buy the little magic m

[@timecat1174]

aged like milk

[@badlookahead]

aged like milk ngl

[@Bigcuber214]

Who’s here after Sam learned obl

[@Yzee728]

Me lol

[@ignDart]

**literally everyone who replies**

[@Aneurin_Hunt]

This video might get really out dated one day.

[@100mcuber4]

"i wont use obl" using obl algs

[@LucasAlfare]

Talk more about 4x4 method

[@oxfordhuang6634]

3:38 i know these 2 white will be on top

[@simo_viewer_pr9030]

RIP non-obl gang 2022-2023

[@michael.vanner]

Just learn it for the bit lol

[@bigwonghong]

reasons for you to learn obl: 1: we can learn obl 2: there is no 2

[@danile_river]

So is this you new main now?

[@charlieharrison]

Reported

fr tho

[@jaycubes]

LMAO

[@keithliamrasco2256]

alot of oblers will dislike this vid litterally noone dislikes

[@davidepstein7397]

you lost me when you said you arent learning obl

[@jonthecuber]

hi

[@A_Glad]

Didn’t he learn OBL recently?

[@Cardmaster12]

Controversial video

[@nctverse127]

irony

[@ignDart]

🤔

[@acrat075_now]

2:06 shame on you

[@effperm]

ratio

[@jouda2097]

I agree

[@chen-jyunpan7717]

1

[@NoPhotoProfile]

Obl its mean only bl

[@KaelHitchcock]

Reported

[@OxzowachiAlt]

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[@Secret_7.26]

Ayyyyy! Remember me?