Why Ichibei Vs Black Clover Isn't Close

Ichibei Vs Black Clover, let's talk about it
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[@RedCloak123]

I'm Back lol

[@totalsigma5288]

Are you gonna do more videos

[@RedCloak123]

Yeah got a Jujustu Kaisen video in the works

[@totalsigma5288]

@@RedCloak123 awesome hey remember NeohXO?

[@RedCloak123]

@@totalsigma5288 yeah, I don't know where he is tho

[@totalsigma5288]

@@RedCloak123 he’s active on instagram

[@mclegacy8261]

Bro just the fact that it’s “black” clover means Ichibe wins lol

[@kapayasiame3632]

Man can paint their grimores black and nerfs their power. Just his presence might be too much for most of the world.

[@foodoftherinnegan1583]

a few things i want to bring up is 1 in the newest bleach episode senjumaru who at minimum is equal to ichibe was shaking all 3 worlds that all are minimum 1/3rd uni but people argue each are uni and she was shaking them with her presence also if we include hell that is cannon although we dont seee it shaking if she shook hell thats a multiversal feat mainly because each layer of hell is an infinity and their are infinite layers. their is also the dimensionality of the dangai(called a subspace a 5d space) and the dangai is tiny compared to the soul society and world of the living and then the garganta is a higher space that contains it all ywhach in the final chapters can destroy all of that including the 5d and debatable 6d garganta and even if its a buffed ywhach compared to what ichibe was fighting ichibe should still be at least 1% of that ywhach

[@imperialspy7204]

Another thing us that there are confirmed kido spells that can manipulate time and can teleport (go back to the flashback arc and go the point where tessai uses forbidden kido techniques to transport kisuke and the vizards) and i expect ichibei who knows all names therefore knows all kido spells and can probably manipulate time

[@keltoncino8420]

Magna slaps this fool with soul chain death match in the midst of all the chaos💀

[@Grayson-Winchester]

You know Ichibei was a real challenge for Yhwach. I want Lucius to also have such a peak fiction fight because he owns us a feat that solidifies him as a threat in the eyes of the readers. Something that makes him feel cornered. Ichibei is someone who can be either very cheerful or get really angry

[@apocrypha5062]

Lucius is weak compared to bleach verse. he can't even beat 50 characters from BLEACH

[@Grayson-Winchester]

@@apocrypha5062 I know Bleach has insane scaling but Lucius is currently the strongest in all of BC

[@Columbina3rdHarbringer]

​@@Grayson-Winchesternah. You are all bleachtards. Time >>>>> Water, Ice, etc. Maybe Aizen, Ichibei and Yhwach can fight him

[@antyey6437]

​@@Grayson-Winchesterso? BC is fodderverse to Bleach

[@apocrypha5062]

@@antyey6437 Yes yes yes, BC is fodderverse

[@NEONlights-lb8um]

Ichibe can also probably stop time. There's some forbidden kido that can stop time and teleport and ichibe Definitely knows how to do this if Someone like Tessai and Urahara can do it. Ichibei even has his own secret kido spells. Plus the fact that Ichibe can steal 100 nights from 100 years in soul soceity's future by literally stealing the black of the universe to stop nights from happening for a hundred days, yeah, that's broken. 2:48 the soul society is much much much bigger than the world of the living. Proof of this is the fact that it takes a week to move from the Royal palace back down to the Sereitei while using flash step. It takes three days if the person is hurrying up and it takes hours if this person is as fast as Ichigo. Compare that with the world of the living : Falling from space won't even take up to 1 hour. And if I'm using flash step to move from space, it won't even take up to 5 minutes. Also the fact that there's other realms within the soul society. Like the Beast realm, the Muken, the West soul society Branch, etc. And considering the fact that the soul society contains dead souls from different eras in time and history, souls that live for hundreds of years, while in the real world, souls live for way less, it means that the soul society is far more populated and far bigger than the world of the living.

[@apocrypha5062]

Becasue BLACK clover is BLACK, all BLACK belongs to Ichibei, that means whole BLACK Clover universe is his power. Ichibe solos Boring Clover

[@drakepowell9803]

Could BC Verse beat Stark?

[@drdulio]

ichibei really my twin fr. W vid

[@moonl8536]

Fire Edit 🔥👌🏾💯 Ichibei rewrites their power alone 😂 they can scale Black Clover to Uni & Bleach scales higher regardless if their Uni 😂 . Some misinfo 1 Realm by itself Is a Universe with the Statements Used Saying the World in Japanese means Universe . Just off the Manga before anime dropped Ichibei scales to Multiverse alone with His Bankai alone

[@RedCloak123]

I heard that the anime went into that but never got the chance to put it in the vid

[@apocrypha5062]

Black Clover is only scale to multi-continental, get pass monn level first.

[@tiradeee]

bleach is multi hell alone is a multiverse, the precipice world is also a multiverse but it's the biggest realm in bleach, soul society is a universe, hueco mundo is a universe, dangai is a universe, idk how big the royal palace is

[@keltoncino8420]

I feel if you start combining black clover abilities and possible compound magics ichibe is cooked

[@keltoncino8420]

Dorothy summons 20 ichibes to jump him in the dream world as he gets drowsy

[@Boshek2019]

Ichibe shikai and Black Clover will just become Clover

[@onesmart229]

You mention Nahma and Lilith freezing and burning concepts. There’s nothing stopping them from destroying his ink. Why not mention Gauche’s ability to create 10 to 12 clones of any top tier? Why not mention Vanessa’s ability to change the fate of her allies? If you want to have these characters fighting together you have to go over the fight like they are actually together and not some gauntlet style 1v1s. Valhalla and Neverland would stack increasing the power of everyone on the Black Clover and summoning an army of Valkyries. Lucis summoning an army of angels to get boosted.

[@Akr_editz-um3go]

Yo you messed up right from the start the gremmy meteor attack is a sp boosted attack which was explained during fake karakura town arc using espadas ceros as an example how stark had stronger cero than others due to high sp the arc may be different i dont remember but it was probably the when he was foghting shunsui and gremmy created multiple galaxy with no boost along with the dimensions which was supported by kubo himself in cfyow which is easily a universal feat cause if u calculate the energy to create those galaxies it is enogh to destroy entire superclusters of galaxies cause creation >>>> destruction basicly

[@Akr_editz-um3go]

We dont know truly how powerful that attack is

[@tyking33]

The problem with that is the fact that that scaling exists at all means that if you take them and throw them anywhere else it puts a lot of stuff in doubt because if my power allows me to erase concepts including things that aren't physical just because I say so then yeah that breaks a lot of things if zagred was to say hey your brush doesn't exist and that happens that would technically still be a baby that's possible

[@RedCloak123]

Zagred would have to scale to Ichibei to do that

[@tyking33]

​@@RedCloak123The problem is black clover is inconsistent and consistent at the same time they're very much so like comic books where you have characters who do not remotely scale to the other but are able to overpower them because of the hax

[@tyking33]

​@@RedCloak123for instance and bleach if you do not have a similar level of power you will not be able to overpower your opponent but in black clover you can look at magna who was able to do anything to Dante just because of the fact that the hacks allowed it the same way you can look at it and say people like Yami who have less magical power than others that he's fighting but is still able to beat them due to the amount of hacks his ability has I'm comic books you can have a character who has a ridiculous amount of God like power yet that same character will be one shot by the guy in the background who just has the ability to warp space All I'm saying is that it's weird when you use black clover especially since they're not at the end of their series simply because they have enough random caveats that if the entire verse is helping it changes everything

[@Grayson-Winchester]

@@tyking33 the question if certain characters scale to others or not has to do with their significance in the story. You can make a character all shiny and gloomy but if he/she never displays anything that comes close to that statement it's miss.

[@MrRomanrin]

IF HE CAN "PAINT" YOU ... YOU LOST. remember he also has the shinigami powers, so KIDO, AND SHUMPO, ETC. so ... ichibei wins.

[@kievteo8540]

Ye I have to disagree he just isn’t beating Asta at all since Anti magic gives him passive and multiple layered resistance to all hax that use spiritual energy hence his name erasing is not gonna work on him.

[@MrRomanrin]

for GREMMI ... we need to talk a lil. HE COULD WIN PRETTY MUCH ANY ONE TBH... imagination is the STRONGEST POWER. simple. but HIS imagination can play against him.... THATS HOW HE LOST AGAINST KENPACHI. he could win against pretty much ANY ONE. if he feels he is stronger than them.

[@em_demiurge4868]

Ichibe is way stronger than Genryusai

[@Akr_editz-um3go]

And about speed if you use uryus calc and then consistently use all power ups of ichigo and then new multipliers from his new base which was final getsugatenshou in tybw was easy mftl+ cause somebody actually did it now comparing it to yhwach and again comparimg him to ichibei also gives him similar mftl feat near high but not fully but i dont understand how any black clover character scales near mftl which is 1000c at minimum and even if they did ichibei is in millions times c how are they gonna match that

[@Akr_editz-um3go]

And yeah there was his soul reaper badge too supressing 80 to 90 percent of his power

[@ObitoUchiha-hy8dn]

This isn't a fair fight, if you don't put the godly tier character on dbz or one punch man

[@em_demiurge4868]

Also shikai Kenpachi isnt stronger than gremmy. It was explitly stated that Gremmy wasn't a fighter and he also didnt know how to use his powers because he was caged. L analysis

[@Grayson-Winchester]

Don't forget Kenpachi still had the eyepacht on against Gremmy

[@drakepowell9803]

Could BC Verse beat Stark?

[@silvertongue.242_99]

Nah black clover ain't universal but ichibe kinda just recks everyone he is too nasty of a character

[@SilenceRed]

Who is that woman called Mommey near the end of the vid xD?

[@RedCloak123]

Princia FunnyBunny

[@drakepowell9803]

Could BC Verse beat Stark?

[@em_demiurge4868]

Lastly, if Zanka no tachi scorched the land and burnt down "Seireitei", that still counts as destroying it. It was never indicated that it would destroy the entirety of the existence in that dimension. You implying it would have destroyed the stars too is ridiculous.

[@MoloBolo-nl6kx]

The soul society itself is the name of the dimension, so yes it would of destroyed the stars the dimension itself is called soul society. 💀 it it was going to destroy the seireitei they would of just said that like they had many times with specific attacks.

[@DarkLordSekke]

Lmao he wouldn't even beat Langris pls stop Lying, he's too slow for the verse

[@RedCloak123]

💀💀💀💀💀💀

[@apocrypha5062]

you BC fanboy cry about it.... Langris is too slow for Bleach verse. Langris is weak as shit. Ichibei is faster than everyone from BORING CLOVER. YOU STOP LYING.... BLEACH SPEED IS FASTETR THAN BAD CLOVER.

[@matinsadeghi4406]

Arenion one of the weakest espada can literally dodge sun light

[@onesmart229]

@@matinsadeghi4406no he didn’t. He did the equivalent of dodging light from blinds. He moved as the hole was forming.

[@matinsadeghi4406]

@@onesmart229 uryu blitzing his own shadow as well as hisagi dodging higashion which is a beam of light and liltoto dodging ashwallen also a beam of light while being tired most valid scalers improve this feat while you just lowball it with your idea.

[@em_demiurge4868]

Implying that the light from menos Grande is lightspeed is hubris. Its a shining beam created by reiatsu, same with Cero and same with Getsuga Tenshou. None of them scale up to light speed, also your scaling of Ichibe to Solar system level is a long stretch and your logic behind it isn't strong.

[@matinsadeghi4406]

Cero in data book is said to be a beam of light .

[@em_demiurge4868]

@@matinsadeghi4406 a beam of light made from Reiatsu. Same with Getsugatenshou, same with kiddos but none of them are nearly light speed

[@matinsadeghi4406]

@@em_demiurge4868 most of attacks in anime are made of energy like mana chakra etc that does not change the speed of attack by your logic most of high tier character like rimuru goku or anos are not even light speed hell even arenion one of the weakest espada Dodged sunlight.

[@kennethkusuma3582]

​​@@em_demiurge4868 why you compared beam of light to Getsuga tenshou and kido? All of them are in different mechanics Getsuga tenshou is pure Reitatsu without any element at all the color of Getsuga tenshou is belonged to Ichigo Reiatsu (each person have different colors of Reiatsu similar to chakras in manga Naruto) and for kido what number kido you talking about ? Because each number have different ability like lighting, fire, explode, etc and from beams of light it's element of light made of Reiatsu that speed same as natural light

[@onesmart229]

@@matinsadeghi4406The speed is never stated and it’s called spiritual light and in later data books corrected to just spiritual energy. Also if all these attacks are light speed meaning they are all the same speed and the characters continue to struggle with them even at the very end of the series then the speed of Bleach stagnates