Why Inexperienced Climbers are RUINING Everest in 2023

Mount Everest is the ultimate dream for most mountaineers. Many go through years of training and prior climbing experiences just to prepare themselves for such a peak. The reason is simple; Mount Everest is the tallest peak in the world, with an elevation of 8,849 meters above sea level. The long climb spans over multiple days exposing you to some of the most brutal conditions possible. There is no denying that reaching the summit marks a significant achievement in many people's lives. However, climbing Mount Everest certainly has a price. In 2023, 17 climbers died on Everest, nine of which happened in May alone. Today we will focus on two of these climbers, both at different stages in life, but on the mountain at the same time. This is their story….
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[@joeliza4047]

Its hard to have empathy for people who deliberately put other people in harms way because of their own ego.

[@Apollo1011]

Exactly, I agree, I could never risk the lives of other people because I wanted to climb a stupid fkn mountain.

[@Apollo1011]

@@ytfeelslikenorthkorea There should be minimum standards set. For someone to try to climb Everest with no climbing experience at all should not be allowed. They also need to meet physical fitness requirements.

[@jsyony]

It's a fine line separating bravery from stupidity. Those who are wise would recognize it. Those who are yet wiser would recognize it even before making a conscious decision to enter a stage where their conscious judgment may be derailed (in this case due to altitude sickness). All the more if you may not only kill yourself but people around you.

[@batarasiagian9635]

Strongly agree.

[@ElMistroFeroz]

It's even harder to have empathy for Karens who want to be the world's mom. Get your own $@i% together. No one is forcing anyone to do anything.

[@Krystalmyth]

The idea of a mountain being slowly covered in frozen corpses, left there in perpetuity as a symbol of the sin of pride, is almost biblical.

[@mikhailiagacesa3406]

I'd argue it's Darwinist. ;-)

[@doctormcboy5009]

word

[@richardhead3211]

it makes my heart warm!

[@nommadd5758]

@@richardhead3211 : You need 'help'!

[@hannahp1108]

Corpses and trash

[@therottenrook]

I don't know how to swim but I've decided at 59 years old to swim the Atlantic Ocean from Florida to France....wish me luck.

[@Chrisbcfc]

Are you there yet?

[@lidiastarkova2323]

it’s been 6 months, we are getting slightly worried 😳🤷‍♀️

[@Chrisbcfc]

@@lidiastarkova2323 I'm thinking about hiring a canoe to go out looking for them

[@Rando-user-zm1fx]

Kind of judgey aren't ya

[@Chrisbcfc]

@@Rando-user-zm1fx 🙄🙄

[@compoundfracture4661]

That’s insane that the woman thought she could just pay and be able to summit Everest. It’s even more insane that a company/group took her as a client without any apparent vetting or prerequisite experience and physical conditioning.

[@poetcomic1]

Just looking at that backed up line for the high summit and then the piles of trash..... there is no beautiful place on earth that isn't overrun with ego, hubris, greed and garbage.

[@adambane1719]

There are plenty of unspoiled beautiful areas around, especially nearby. Try going outside sometime ! @@poetcomic1

[@josephmarzullo]

@@poetcomic1garbage is the flag of humanity

[@FabsHF]

First time she took 5 hours to climb a stretch that usually takes 20 minutes, the company should have aborted the mission immediately telling her she is in no condition to continue. They could have given her a second chance but if she failed to do that in less than a hour, then the trip is over

[@sarads7877]

Considering how many people are looking to climb mount everest every year, like i heard there is a queue to reach the summit pretty much every time there is good weather, these companies should start declining unfit clients… Like you don’t need to say yes to everyone, you can make good money anyway at this point

[@chadmcmullen4064]

The commodification and commercialization of mountaineering is disgusting. If you cannot manage the ascent without a team of experts guiding your every move, making every decision for you, then you are NOT a mountaineer and you do not belong there.

[@wisenber]

" If you cannot manage the ascent without a team of experts guiding your every move, making every decision for you, then you are NOT a mountaineer" If you summit Everest, you're a mountaineer. The legally required guides are their to keep more people from dying.

[@anunknownknown]

I quite agree with you! It is absolutely for dedicated, expert, experienced climbers, mountaineers. The companies promising a step by step ascent are little better than pimps. As well and worse is the grave danger they put those naive, very stupid customers and all others in. All about $$$$$$$ 😢

[@himzok3907]

Money my friends, the money runs the world, not the justice and moral sadly…

[@garyphillips3552]

Stupid people do stupid things. Just ask Gump.

[@ZootyZoFo]

The Everest experience is open to more people than ever and that’s a good thing and a much needed economic boost to an impoverished region of the world.

[@lumberlikwidator8863]

I know people who ride bikes or play pickleball with pacemakers and artificial knees , but going to the Death Zone with a pacemaker is out of the question. Why this woman was allowed anywhere near Mt. Everest with a pacemaker is unfathomable.

[@jorgeillueca5260]

I’m wondering if she even revealed the fact that she had one?

[@mylesgray3470]

She certainly didn’t seem very educated on the riggers of mountain climbing. You would think at age 59 she would have more sense than she seemed to have.

[@spangol87]

Insane stupidity

[@brandonsavitski]

It was her dream in life to climb Mount Everest. How dare people condone someone for wanting and living out their dreams. Maybe she didn't care if she died. She was living her life to the fullest.

[@mylesgray3470]

@@brandonsavitski For most things, its great to push your limits to live out your dreams but when you put other people’s lives at risk rather than just your own doing so, that’s not cool.

[@HaraldHofer]

I'm 51, a mountaineer for my whole life and still very fit (I'm running around 200k a month and still a member of the Austrian Mountain Rescue Service). Even 25 years ago to climb this mountain made no sense any more. It's risky as a mountain but with all the "climbers" on it's even more dangerous. I decided it's not worth an attempt and I never regretted it. It's madness there are 1000s of other beautiful, high and technically challenging mountains to climb - for free.

[@gmc5618]

What do you mean by highly technical? Because I just hear very dangerous.

[@HaraldHofer]

@@gmc5618 a mountain could be dangerous because of avalanches, altitude in general, other people causing accidents (like falling rocks) or spontaneous rock slides, etc. Often things that are hard to control or predict. A mountain is technically challenging if the route demands a high level of technical knowledge and routine to get up safety. Like hard climbing in good rock or ice, difficult to find navigate and navigate routes, maybe even logistics (approach, camps, etc.) Or the type of mountaineering. I was never a friend of this "Siege style" of mountaineering where sherpas, big camps and fixed ropes are involved. I always considered the "Alpine style" superior where you and your bodies carry all the stuff. I would rather do half a mountain like Everest but would be prouder if I have done it by myself.

[@gmc5618]

@@HaraldHofer thanku so interesting! Good luck with your climbs x

[@adambane1719]

You couldnt climb a mountain at 26 and still a member ob the mountain rescue service !?!?

[@gmc5618]

@@adambane1719 wouldn't climb this mountain in particular due to the risks created by other climbers

[@LiLiAsSmi]

I get winded going up my stairs and lately I’ve been thinking climbing Mount Everest is a fun thing to do! I might refinance my house to go to that! Wish me luck!

[@rosieposie9564]

You are a very powerful queen. You can do it and don't even bother with the foolishness of getting fit first, that is for timid losers. Now you go refinance that house at once and get going. I don't know you or anything but I just know you can do it😉

[@cjane_world]

No athlete, pacemaker, needing 12 hours for normally 20 minutes, a cold... Sounds like a great idea.

[@antoniotula262]

& 59!

[@MrBiggles53]

Feminism for the win! Age is a number. Fat people are not healthy. You should listen to those with decades of success and experience. No doubt the sherpas were all patriarchal misogynists. Play stupid games …

[@LeJo222]

Odds were looking very good indeed.

[@raerae6422]

Im surprised that Sherpas and expedition leaders dont have more authority to refuse to take an at-risk climber further.

[@yggdrasil4986]

And she was a teacher??? You would think someone who teaches kids should know better... great role model.

[@mildadventures4427]

Can’t imagine thinking “I’ve never climb anything in my life, but I think I’ll pay an enormous amount of money to climb the tallest mountain in the world” 🤡

[@blackosprey2219]

It actually makes sense. A total novice would have no reason to think it's all that hard.

[@MollyFC]

"If I just believe in myself I can do it" I'm sure is the mindset of many of these people

[@junioradult6219]

​​@@MollyFC its probably more there rich and empty and want something that will make them feel accomplished or that they have done something with there life ect. ..alot of people rich and poor head to the wilderness to try and figure things out

[@Shinzon23]

*glances at the recent "convert to paste" moment with rich people in a poorly made submarine* You really surprised by that?

[@cakestealer5983]

I mean why not? Plenty of people do just that, and if I had a fuckton of free time and money I might be interested in going as well. That being said, I do also care about the physical achievement of doing such a thing, so I’d be interested in training to do that as well.

[@polarbearsaysyummy5845]

Suzanne's Cardiologist would have had a heart attack, knowing she wanted to click Everest.

[@janinelargent9220]

They really ought to consider severely restricting access to Everest. What a disgusting mess

[@bethewalt7385]

Probably never going to happen because the cost of permits can bring in $5 million a year for the Nepalese government, for them that's astronomical

[@blue81blue81]

Yea that's the answer!! Lets just shut down Everest. the ocean, access to outer space, Antarctica, because arrogant small minded control freaks like you think we should !!!!!!

[@geebrewer8186]

@@bethewalt7385 yep, Nepal has become greedy and dependent on the money, issuing more and more permits each year, which is why you see lines 2+ hours long to climb Hillary Step

[@paddyohenry6428]

The idiots determined to become "the first X to climb Everest with Y" are beyond contempt.

[@TC-dw6wg]

That is the me me world! It’s all about color, sex, religion, financial status etc etc etc!

[@onemoremisfit]

First left handed midget transgender Native American Michael Jackson impersonator with a pacemaker and a bad case of acne to climb Everest!

[@Chunda8]

@@onemoremisfit You'd have to take twice as many steps and resist the temptation to moonwalk at the summit.

[@Chunda8]

It's way too late to be the first a$$hole selfish narcissist with delusional megalomania and a sociopath topping.

[@onemoremisfit]

@@Chunda8 I don't think any climber has reached the summit and then taken off his crampons to do a moonwalk on the top of the summit. Somebody needs to do that and get it on video. L0L

[@davidbeckenbaugh9598]

I was not climbing the mountain, but just on a trek to base camp. I was still a decently long way from the camp when I started having a headache. Even though I spend a lot of time at 10,000(+) ft, my self assessment was altitude sickness, and time to turn around and go down. I had paid a lot to do the trek. But I can try again sometime... maybe.... If I want to... If I can afford it. If I was dead, I would not have that opportunity. The Sherpa assigned to go with me back down the trail said he was impressed with my decision. Several people died that year. I (obviously) was not one of them. I feel, that alone, is worth bragging about. But I feel sorry for others that do not have the same decision making experience, and pay for it.

[@somedumbozzie1539]

Worse still you might have survived minus your hands and feet and regreted living.

[@SF-eo6xf]

​@@somedumbozzie1539i don't think you could face that issue when trekking to the base camp

[@SF-eo6xf]

I wanna do the treck. Do they give altitude sickness medicine? In South America they give you coca tea which helps

[@somedumbozzie1539]

@@SF-eo6xfBut certainly could if you went into the death zone in a below par state.

[@SF-eo6xf]

@@somedumbozzie1539 i said he only did the treck on not climb the mountain

[@TheRedRaven_]

I think one of the main reasons there are so many injuries/fatalities on Everest is because people cannot afford the climb (It's basically 100k) until they're in their late 50's where most people have enough money in their savings to make such an expensive decision. If you're not an active person in general and think a few months of training is enough to summit at that age, well I have news for you.

[@virtualfantasy2909]

The best comment about it.

[@corners3755]

And that lady was clearly overweight and out of shape just from her pictures alone.

[@SerenityPeaceTree]

I'm truly angered about Mt. Everest being trashed because there are too many careless people on it. The graffiti alone made me gasp, but all that garbage left or tossed into a crevasse because ignorant entitled people need to stoke their egos is disgusting.... It's another human environmental disaster.

[@linshore7451]

The sherpas littered just as much as the tourists.

[@SerenityPeaceTree]

​@@linshore7451 I wouldn't be surprised....

[@gowtham7231]

They have paid millions even if they poop in there no one can ask them anything😂

[@johng4093]

The ground is considered the natural resting place for all discarded items in many countries and they think nothing of it.

[@GanymedeXD]

Stupid comment … why ego … most people including yourself do things others will rate as dumb and idiotic … everybody does things they love and everybody has desires and dreams … some want to go on a lovely holiday, others want to engage in whatever challenges, others want to climb Everest … where is the problem? Worse than ego on Everest is the arrogance so many people display in the comments! Feeling entitled and superior. Thats disgusting. And its getting worse. Its greedy companies trashing the mountain … leaving their shit behind others need to clear up.

[@Kazwell111]

That teacher is a perfect example of someone who should NOT have been allowed to go.

[@ADM-wt9cn]

There should absolusltey be a prereq, or qualification on those first ascents... If it takes a great climber 20 minutes the cap should be 90 etc... If you cant prove that you shouldnt be able to continue. It should be part of the contract agreement with the sherpas. Would save alot of lives

[@themobseat]

Kids, your teacher is now a frozen landmark on Everest.

[@coolramone]

Maybe she should have tried loving the students more than the mountain.

[@Kazwell111]

@@ADM-wt9cn Many professional climbers are in physical condition on par with most well-trained athletes in the world. It takes more than determination, only the most fit should be given permits and be able to demonstrate their fitness by undergoing a serious rigorous test while being hooked up to health monitoring equipment. You then must be able to lift your own weight and demonstrate on a pullup bar. Run on a treadmill that declines and inclines and go through an intense preprogrammed cycle for a set amount of time. Possibly more, you get the idea. This may weed out a lot of people and hurt the bottom line, but by not doing this you are putting people's lives at risk.

[@karlburmeister1552]

@@coolramone She's too cool for that, now literally.

[@biffbuffington4393]

The first Asian woman to climb Everest with a pacemaker ... Even if she were successful she would have easily been outdone by the first left-handed French woman to climb Everest with a hearing aid.

[@Parlimant_Strifey]

climbing Everest has become like that old SNL skit about replacement players in the MLB strike. Everyone was a first at training camp with their insane & ridiculous virtue signals. The SNL writers warned us in the 90s.

[@humbertsmith8864]

Although I knew Suzanne you are so right!

[@TC-dw6wg]

👏👏👏 Bravo! Best and most accurate explanation of this me, me world.

[@turnwaiter]

I'm actually nearly positive I'm the 1st person from a western country with narcissitic personality disorder and a propensity for putting others lives at risk to make it halfway up the mountain and turn back for being inexperienced and out of shape. I'll be expecting a heroes' welcome when i return home.

[@joquin4618]

So dumb 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@mikebelnap3079]

As a young Boy Scout I was introduced into backpacking in the beautiful Rocky Mountains of Utah Wyoming and Idaho The first rule we learned,as 12 year old scouts was if you pack it in you must pack it out Leave it better than you found it

[@candice-hw7nb]

Leave nothing but foot and paw prints. These people are planet natzis

[@Seattle_Kiwi]

A pacemaker on Everest doesn’t make ANY medical sense, it’s particularly alarming when tied with no other climbing experience. I always thought after the tragedy of 1996, everything on Everest would change for the better. Sadly, it is way worse. So very terrible. God bless the Sherpas. ❤

[@santaclause3487]

Sherpas are the ones taking their money right?

[@bethlitaunieks382]

What a stubborn woman, could have killed others all just to say that she'd summited Everest. Madness!

[@barbriley583]

Hubris

[@purplerider2362]

Some people become obsessed with it. I’m glad no one else died because of her stupidity and stubbornness.

[@bl0r]

True, but realistically she couldn’t get far out of base camp. I’d say people who can get close to the top before failing are more of a risk, cause then you’re out of helicopter range and rescue depends on sherpas and other climbers

[@JL-nk1pc]

Women have killed many on the mountains they're a biological liability

[@ontherunjg]

She was a idiot.

[@BlackKraya]

It's sad that a father of six decides to risk his life like that. You owe your kids to try your best to stay safe and be there for them

[@Road_Rash]

It's the kids that owe the parents for their very existence, parents don't owe their kids anything...

[@maryburger1232]

​@@Road_Rashthe kids didn't ask to be born !

[@clemclemson9259]

@@Road_Rash then don't have them- they do owe their children to be responsible, especially 6 of them...

[@clemclemson9259]

@@maryburger1232 agree 100 percent- you choose to have children you owe them some responsibility

[@dmitryshusterman9494]

Stop moralizing, live your life as you wish, let others do the same.

[@PattMcCrotch]

I read about that lady Shariya Shah-Klorfine yesterday that tried to climb ME. She had never even climb a mountain but dropped 100k with a questionable company and actually made the summit. But she was too tired to descend and died. Begging people to save her and take her down. 😢

[@kknithin]

I met her on may 2022 during our ebc trek. I found her walking very slow, anyway she managed to reach the ebc without much issues, may be that gave her the over confidence to climb the Everest. I think she mentioned that, she is from Daman Diu and a former headmistress. She was friendly with other trekkers... RIP One of my teammate was in touch with her on jan 2023. She told him like this - I am looking for someone who can accompany me, with my pace to climb Everest. Most of the people from my hometown came to know about my plan, so I must need to do it at any cost. I am looking for sponsors and I already invested most of my savings. I got training from mountaineering institute(not sure which one).

[@Kivikesku]

This is the best comment for this video. Informative and respectful.

[@bananka4905]

what is EBC

[@paularinaga1576]

@@bananka4905Everest Base Camp

[@rajasreeibs]

​@@bananka4905 Everest Base Camp

[@korlyofficialnbp6784]

@@bananka4905Everest base camp.

[@Flufferz626]

I remember reading about one lady whose highest hike she ever did was just under 7k ft. I live in Colorado at around 6k feet, spouse's previous job was at 8.5k feet. I have done one 14er and it was rough, plus other mountains that are above 11k. I would never consider myself ready for Everest or K2. The sheer audacity and narcissistic rich people who just decide to go to Everest like it's Disney World is mind boggling. How disconnected from reality are they? ....

[@xplodegg]

I seriously think these people don't understand how many elements are against them and how unfit they are for it. Their ego cannot accept it. I guarantee you this woman couldn't even do a long jog in her regular town let alone climbing Everest. It is like she ignores every possible sign.

[@mikkicarr5717]

Yeah, I don't get it. I've climbed a few small mountains and I would never even think of attempting an 8000 metre mountain. why do people who have literally 0 experience think this is a good idea? are they just that dumb, that they think nothing bad can possibly happen to them?

[@Coconutscott]

Each and everyone a potential Darwin Award finalist.

[@1queijocas]

That woman made me angry as well. If she wants to die, then die without risking others people lives and die alone

[@SvendleBerries]

Being super rich does that to a lot of people. After a time, all that matters is competing with other super rich people by buying accolades for themselves that they dont really deserve.

[@miriamha970]

Sandy Pittman is a great example of summiting because she had the money to hire the help to get her there and to save her life even though others were left to die. She even hired a private plane to take her back instead of trekking back like all the others do and threw a party to celebrate her accomplishments. Such a false sense of achievement.

[@Kat-fr3yg]

She threw a party?! Half her team died in the 1996 disaster. Unbelievable she would consider a party appropriate.

[@joseortega-us6rn]

Anatoli Bokriev carry her down to camp 4 and save her life.@@Kat-fr3yg

[@anunknownknown]

If that is true, she is gonna face some serious karma. Wtf is wrong with people like that??? I hope they shut down Everest to all but those with the qualifications.

[@thedarkhorse100]

Hell ya it’s true, and she’d hired away one of the Sherpas who was supposed to set ropes for the oncoming teams that caused the entire bottleneck

[@joseortega-us6rn]

I you really want to know what happened see, mountain without mercy. @@anunknownknown

[@chris9879]

Susanne even posted on her facebook blaming the sherpas for treating her badly. Really horrible! "I have paid for 2 sherpas to make my way towards Everest easier....but rather unfortunately....they think that gives them the power to torture me with real time manhandling and misadventures so that I discontinue my mission. Sick of some people around. Their minds are sicker then their bodies.(And there are kind people around too.)"

[@user-yw8qf8cc3t]

Feminist climbs Everest😅

[@johng4093]

There's something especially galling about ungrateful people.

[@sadafmo7363]

Manhandling is a gender neutral term…

[@donkeysaurusrex7881]

I’d like to be the first person to climb Everest in a kayak. Like I’d hire two extra Sherpas to carry the kayak while I sit in it. Do you think a guide company would accommodate this request?

[@Beth-sn9ip]

Lmao!

[@teresaburton4145]

I’ve gotcha…two million dollars and I can hook you up.

[@RedwingBB]

The sunk cost fallacy is a BIG PROBLEM on Everest 🙁

[@Nocturnalux]

It really is!

[@aszechy]

One of the key symptoms of hypoxia is impaired judgement. Putting yourself in a situation where you know you are likely to make stupid decisions is in itself a stupid decision...

[@junioradult6219]

So everyone who has ever drank😂😂

[@user-yw8qf8cc3t]

They're stupid to begin with

[@santaclause3487]

Exactly. Sounds like the sherpas are morons for not forcing her back down.

[@davidstair9657]

There are old climbers and there are bold climbers, but, there are no old, bold climbers. My dad taught me that when I was 8… 40 years later I think of this often. The saying has saved my life a few times…

[@K1OIK]

so original

[@rosieposie9564]

@@K1OIK Many people do not know that saying and it is very sensible and relevant now more than ever.

[@barrocaspaula]

Why would a 59 years old woman with a pacemaker try to climb Everest?

[@NovusUltima]

can't fix stupid

[@Scipio_Americanus]

Inactive obese woman with a pacemaker and without any climbing experience wants to climb the highest mountain on earth: what could go wrong?

[@cjane_world]

Seriously... that's just gross negligence. Even if she paid for everything: How could any company sign a contract with her?! Endangering not only her, but also their own employees? Though... from her attitude towards the Sherpas I assume that she lied when signing the contract, lying about her health and fitness. Otherwise it doesn't make sense to me.

[@Parlimant_Strifey]

maybe she wanted to self-delete and this was just the excuse? Climbing a mountain at that age is tough, needing a pacemaker already makes it seem like a suicidal endeavor.

[@chancellor3122]

When your name is Suzanne Leopoldina Jesus what can go wrong?

[@doctormcboy5009]

teachers are sooooo smart eh

[@clemclemson9259]

@@doctormcboy5009 lol for sure

[@turtlejeepjen314]

My dad had a pacemaker, & he considered himself lucky that the medical technology was available to help him ‘live his best life” he always said. My dad passed away 3 years ago. He was very stubborn, but, unlike that first one, he knew & accepted his limitations.😑

[@wapiti3750]

Your dad must have been a Dirty Harry fan! Harry famously warned that, "a man's got to know his limitations".

[@priyankatanwar2438]

Stubborn is ok as far as it does not put other peoples life at risk.

[@star42]

The mountain have zero f#*k to give for ones ego. On my trek to the Everest Basecamp there was a member of the team who some would describe as sort of an "Alpha male " figure. He was fit, successful in life, and has a very outgoing personality. All the way from Lukla to Gokyo he push himself to be amongst the very first of the pack, trying to keep up with the lead guides and the more experienced trekkers and be the first to make it to the next camp. At Gokyo he succumbed to exhaustion and started developing signs of altitude sickness, and had to be escortrd back down to Numche Bazaar. If he had heed the advice of the guides like the rest of us, listen to our body and go at our own pace, then he would've been able to enjoyed the trek and make it to Basecamp like the rest of us. Altitude is the ultimate equalizer.

[@martinschulz9381]

Good video. I read the book 'Into thin air' years ago years ago; a very well written book that sparked my interest in the climbing Everest thing (the insanity of it all that is) I've been following Everest since I read it. Sometimes experienced seasoned climbers who've climbed it before, go down as well. Their bodies suddenly decide to fail.

[@michaellefevers4248]

Something tells me that the Suzanne lady, at 59, spent or put herself in major debt to climb Everest, and was banking on the notoriety of social media to pay it back. That would explain the stubbornness of not wanting to say no.

[@Rockstareeyahn]

Atleast she got away from the debt

[@cheshirecat1212]

The ‘Silvassa Industries and Manufacturers Association’ published a letter they received from her requesting sponsorship to help her make their region/state proud, as a local teacher and the first Asian woman with a pacemaker to summit Everest.

[@junioradult6219]

At that age highly doubtful its about social media😂😂 bet you a 1000 it was bc was she was getting older and wanted to feel like she acomplished a huge goal before it was to late

[@Rockstareeyahn]

@@junioradult6219 Oh sweetie, you havent been on the internet lately. Wanting to be social media famous does discriminate on age

[@TheMerryPrangster]

Who was the first ever climber with a toe ring to summit? Maybe that title is still up for grabs

[@Hobbes250]

I'm not a mountaineer in the slightest but I'm always watching videos about it. They really need to put a stranglehold on the number of people allowed on these major mountains every year.

[@helpstopanimalabuse8153]

Will never happen. Nepal is staggeringly poor & they rely on these $11,000 USD each permit for their economy. It's like a cash cow & everybody is thirsty. Why would you stop it.

[@bigworldparty]

I'm against having a limit. It will end up where rich/connected people get the permits. And once the gatekeepers get control they want to use their power, which I've experienced when gates get installed on off-road trails here in the USA. Sorry that woman in the video died, but it was ultimately her choice. We can't and should not protect against all risks at the expense of other people's freedom.

[@Hobbes250]

@@bigworldparty I can understand your first point. I'm not advocating for limiting it cause of safety though. People can do what they want. It just seems to be littered with litter and bodies. And the photos of 40+ people in a line to the summit seems weird lol maybe that's normal. again not a mountaineer so not really my place but my opinion anyway.

[@Hobbes250]

@@helpstopanimalabuse8153 that makes sense. Just unfortunate about the litter.

[@Hobbes250]

@Generallyannoyed2024 yeah I said that

[@neroignatiusrosewater]

50 years ago, climbing Everest was a mark of strength and courage. Now, it is a mark of shame.

[@junioradult6219]

Go try it😂not even the east face just the regular path. Good luck

[@sliceofheaven3026]

I think this is a tricky question since I do think that restricting the amount of climbers to Mount Everest would be a wise thing to do. They should really require the climbers to have a certain amount of climbing experience and also have some kind of official document about the state of their health before they are allowed to climb the mountain. On the other hand this is also a question of livelihood for the Himalayan people who carry the supplies of the climbers. The less climbers there are then the less chances of getting employment overall in that specific region. Though ultimately the safety of the climbers should come first but sadly I think the financial side overrides those concerns at least to some degree.

[@junioradult6219]

Plus less customers for all the local buisnesses. I dont think those sherpas making over a 100k in a couple months want to go back to 7 grand a year

[@ElLaberintoDelFauno3]

They probably should make the permits more pricey and cut down on how many they offer a year. $11,000 for the permit is already prohibitively expensive - plus all the other expedition costs - so I don’t see how making it more expensive to offset the lost permits is any more elitist of thing than it already is. Or even a lottery system where you pay to submit your expedition in, then you pay the permit if selected. Sherpas deserve good pay plus not having to deal with the deadly combo of a crowded mountain and inexperience climbers. It looks like there are already some solid requirements in place to get a permit, like having climbed a 6,500m Nepalese mountain before, so it seems to also be an issue of cracking down on sketchy adventure companies that manage to put inexperienced people on the mountain in the first place. Plus, there could be more work on funneling and encouraging more people towards less dangerous activities near or on Everest that still requires some permitting and fees to make revenue there, like trekking at lower altitudes which can look like a lot of different things and come at a bunch of different price points. You don’t necessarily need a guide for that, but you could still offer services or “experiences” to learn form a “real Everest Sherpa” on your trek. Rich foreigners love that kind of stuff! There are definitely way more people who could do that kind of thing than there are people who can summit the mountain. But I suppose part of the problem is adventure companies can get way more money out of fewer people through Everest summits and, I imagine, some in the government do not want to get in the way of permitting revenue. Topped by a cherry of insufferable, pushy rich people who feel they are entitled to climb the mountain no matter what. Ultimately, would just be great if people in Nepal and Tibet didn’t have to rely on the fickle and exploitive world of ecotourism to make a living. There’s never really a safe way to climb a mountain even if everyone it experienced (though certainly ways to be smarter about it). With climate change making it harder to predict weather up there, it’s only gonna get worse with the trend of overcrowding + inexperience + social media FOMO brain rot. Anyway, I’m just spitballing and procrastinating from work and really have no clue what I’m talking about 😂

[@johng4093]

These kind of deaths aren't good advertising and the bragging value seems degraded when invalids are escorted up...how does it impress when you did what an out-of-shape sick old lady (almost) did?

[@aarontaylor4967]

It's ridiculous. Climbing Everest used to be a monumental achievent. Now there are troops of tourists being all but airlifted to the summit.

[@yourtrappedinmygenjutsu]

No one is being air lifted if it's so easy why don't you go?

[@TC-dw6wg]

Air lifted?? Apparently someone besides me, does not know much about Everest.

[@nommadd5758]

@@yourtrappedinmygenjutsu : "...all but..."

[@nommadd5758]

@@TC-dw6wg : "...all but..."

[@katlynklassen809]

Yeah. Now it is something for which you clown on people because it is some bunk.

[@walmartgolem]

Permits for Everest should only be issued for those who have already ascended 3x 8k mountains. It should be the domain for serious climbers.

[@tomw0815]

Makes sense that you need three difficult 8k mountains before you are allowed to climb the easy 8k mountain. LOL.

[@FreedomBaba]

They want the money

[@TC-dw6wg]

No such thing as an easy 8K climb in my mind / world.

[@aledevans4583]

Everest is one of the easiest 8ks

[@ADM-wt9cn]

@@tomw0815 Yeah agree... It is the right idea... Maybe others like aconagua or rainier before, even Mt Whitneys mountaineers is a great test.

[@Revolver1701]

If you can find it, “The Ascent of Rum Doodle” is funny but also makes a point. It was written before this sad craze of Everest tourism.

[@Taketimeout3]

It's very depressing that such an important and special place is allowed to be treated with such little respect. Before any more climbs every person who has profited from this mountain should clean up and collect all bodies, rubbish and discarded equipment. ALL OF IT. Government should insist on this.

[@Gaius_Sinstone]

Agreed, except the hikers should be doing it. They’re the ones leaving the trash. Just because they’re paying their way onto the mountain doesn’t mean they’re not responsible for it.

[@ethansutherland3786]

​@@Gaius_Sinstoneabsolutely the sherpas and even the guides from other countries do a lot to set ropes and clean up, and at the end of the day are only there to make a living, look at the likes of Rob Hall and Scott fischer, risked their lives to set ropes for clients and paid the price for it.

[@jlinus7251]

This is a government that can't even give its citizens reliable electricity. They don't have the resources or the ability to do anything about their biggest money making machine.

[@Chunda8]

If I were a serious, experienced, dedicated mountaineer who earned the right to attempt Everest, now I wouldn't do it because the tourists would be putting my life at additional risk. The mountain is dangerous enough, now I have to worry about someone who has decided to make Everest their first serious climb. Push them off it. Seeing those long lines like the mountain was some Disneyland ride was sickening.

[@brandonsavitski]

Just because people dedicate more time to climbing mountains and climb more often doesn't give them any rights to a mountain or anymore rights than anyone else. So called mountaineers are self entitled ego driven pricks who think they're better than others. I don't care if they've climbed mountains a thousand times. They have no more rights than a person climbing a mountain for the first time.

[@georgezimmerman3334]

so you aren't a mountain climber? just a internet commenter

[@kzsposeidon3121]

Nah, I agree and I'm the youngest of my nationality to summit a 7.000m peak in the Himalayas. Would hate to be on a mountain with someone who needs a Sherpa to put on his/her crampons or tell them what food and equipment to pack for what camp

[@billpugh58]

Go climb K2

[@u4riahsc]

No kidding, Mt. Everest is the last place on the planet you would expect to run into a crowd. No thanks.

[@aclarkedesign]

I just want to make the trek to (or close to) base camp and see Everest. Going up…no way.

[@katharina...]

Whenever this happens, wishing you a great adventure!

[@marilyndee969]

You can't see Everest from base camp. I went to the region and climbed Kala Patar, a trekking peak. You don't need special equipment to climb it. You only had to do some scrambling at the end. I sat on top and looked at Everest for 45 minutes. Then I came back down. It is an easy climb, yet at over 18,000 feet, higher than the highest mountain in Europe. You just trek there from Lukla, and trek back to Lukla after that. We were the only ones on the top that day, and the view was breathtaking. Well worth it. An experience of a lifetime without risking climbing Everest itself.

[@aclarkedesign]

@@marilyndee969 Thats the trek i was thinking about. I've seen some videos of people that have done it and looks amazing. So even if you get to base camp of Everest, you don't see the mountain? I don't climb and have no interest of doing so. Seems crazy to me.

[@marilyndee969]

@@aclarkedesign = I lived in Nepal and trekked a lot in the Everest and Annapurna regions. Never did any climbing that required equipment at all, nor oxygen. Just plain hiking. We had been trekking around the Everest region for three weeks at the time, and were well aclimatized. Going up Kala Patar was about like climbing a Boulder foothill. I lived in Boulder, CO for ten years and climbed them a lot. Once you are used to the altitude, the climbs were similar. Just hike up, and did some hiking on all fours near the top. Sit and enjoy the view. Then hike back down. The effort was not different from climbing Flagstaff or Green mountain in the Boulder foothills. You fly into Lukla from Kathmandu and fly out again at the end. I am not a strong person nor a strong hiker. Just average in every way. Once you are used to the altitude, the climb is an easy one. The view is beautiful and worth it. Good luck!

[@antoniotula262]

​@@marilyndee969Yesss!!!... I've read about & saw video on the phenomenal view. I'm in my 50s & have been athletic my whole life, but I would never climb anything other than a trekking or hiking type of mountain. I simply have zero experience and am too old to actually climb anything even half of Everest.

[@twobeards6714]

I'm ready for Everest I got out of a cab today and walked to the doors of the highrise where I spend my days at a desk twelve stories above sea level. Next week I'm being transferred to the fourteenth floor to build my stamina. I'll be sure to dump my taco wrappers everywhere on my journey. I'm sure glad there's a water cooler at base camp two.

[@Holycow723]

I don't feel bad for any of the people that die on Everest...especially when they are trashing the mountain in the process.

[@constantinosschinas4503]

I am an avid rock climber, mountaineer, skier, snowboarder. Yet, i have zero sympathy for people that push their limits for no absolute reason than because they are adrenaline junkies and narcissists. Most of us, when it comes, just deserve it.

[@philipwilkie3239]

Decades ago I could have called myself the same - and despite being asked once if I was interested in a trip to the Himalayas, I very firmly declined. Like you I knew my limits and not to compare myself to others. Never for a moment regretted turning down that offer. I spent decades climbing, skiing and tramping in New Zealand and had many close calls - but I am proud to say no-one was ever harmed on any trip I was involved in.

[@johnmeehan7884]

Jealous af

[@philipwilkie3239]

@@ColinMor-fj3qc As a New Zealander of that generation I knew a number of people related to Ed Hillary and Ed Cotter. I climbed in NZ with Cotter's son Guy, who himself went on to have a long and sometimes dramatic career in the Himalayas. I have nothing but respect for them - and not the slightest envy. If you met them you soon learned they were tough minded, highly skilled and very fit individuals for whom the risk reward benefit was worth it. Even so we lost many and I still mourn a few. In those early days literally 1 in 10 lead climbers on Everest did not return. Those of us who have experienced the high alps and both their allure and dread, have no respect for those who think money and narcissism can 'buy' them a shortcut to the the top of the world. Only those who have already done at least 5 8000m summits, or have a record of being lead climbers in this high domain, should be eligible for a permit.

[@kestrels_xp9338]

@@ColinMor-fj3qcur weird!

[@DoctorJammer]

I wish more people were adrenaline junkies. Too many people on the planet.

[@cloudswinger2000]

I did Mt Fuji last month, and found it enlightening. Coming from Florida, it was tough, no real way to acclimatize before hand, but also gave me an idea of what would be needed for any other higher mountain. I have no desire to climb higher mountains.

[@bascoaful]

And Mt Fuji has a proper walkway

[@antoniotula262]

This seems like a far more wise approach. I'm in my 50s & physically active, but I have no mountaineering experience. There is no way I would try to make Everest my first summit. I would have to climb many gradually higher mountains before going for an 8000m. This teacher basically chose to end her life for whatever reasons.

[@cloudswinger2000]

@@antoniotula262 It's hard to say for sure, since I dont' actually know her. But often people overestimate their abilities when they have never done something. I'm in my 50s too, and had my 19 year old daughter with me. Both of us struggled, in different ways. I think she actually had more altitude sickness than I did. Maybe I thought her youth would help her. Anyways, we both survived, there are people who also die on Mt. Fuji, one 70 year old died a few weeks before we climbed. Plus the normal accidents, it's still a steep mountain.

[@antoniotula262]

@cloudswinger2000 I don't know her either, but I'm sure most reasonable people do not think that anyone who is 59yrs old with a pacemaker, no mountaineering experience, non athletic, can simply go and summit the highest mountain in the world. The idea to do this is bad enough, but then she was given a clear sign of her abilities when it took her 5 hours to reach a point, normally reached in 15 to 20 minutes. It took her 6 hours on a second attempt and a staggering 12 hours on the third attempt. She chose to ignore this obvious sign. At some point, given this information, it is clear that she was not rational.

[@rosas4851]

You went hiking not mountaineering

[@scott-gy6fe]

I hope to one day arrive at base camp,spend the night and return home.

[@stevemuchnick]

GREAT VIDEO-WELL DONE

[@sofakingtrash9487]

Its impossible for me to feel bad for these people

[@ZIM_skol]

RIGHT?????? Oh poor baby, made the decision to do everything against all advice they’ve been given, take an assload of free money to do something they Dunning-Kruger’d their way into signing up for… POOR POOR BABY

[@punkpanther6310]

I’m not sure they would want you to…

[@lillyess385]

​@@punkpanther6310They are probably narcissists, who definitely want all the attention including pitty.

[@Krystalmyth]

@@punkpanther6310 Narcissists most definitely would want you to.

[@RSF-DiscoveryTime]

Shelter, safety, health, and financial well-being just WASN'T ENOUGH for these people. They had to have more. What is the point in risking your precious life? Just to say "I did it"? Lethally negligent disregard. Is it really "heartless" to save my concern for those who are truly innocent of wrongdoing and do NOT risk their precious lives for nothing as opposed to someone who climbs a mountain, risking their lives for no legitimate reason?

[@klausfiedler64]

I didn't know stupidity could be uncovered with an autopsy.

[@roberttheiss6377]

lmao you roasted that corpse

[@rubykrussg]

I can't feel any simpathy for someone so stubborn and oblivious to the harm they can cause to others

[@sarahp936]

Im pretty torn on this issue. If people want to risk their own necks, I say let them. The only thing that gives me pause is that they often endanger other people also.

[@candice-hw7nb]

The litter too...special place in hell for these narcissists

[@carolinamurtha3102]

Nothing about climbing Everest has ever sounded appealing. Especially now where anyone can do it with the money, some do glamping, it feels so sketchy. I also have health issues, there’s no way I would be able to make it. It’s so scary to think how many go up and not come back 😓.

[@cjane_world]

I get the appeal somewhat. If I was fit enough and had no health issues, I might risk it after practicing for YEARS to become a good climber... and even then I would consider the risks more than once. I might be too scared to do it. But going there totally unprepared... I just don't get it. And how selfish to put her Sherpas through this and going on despite their opinion!

[@Krystalmyth]

@@cjane_world Why though? So you can follow a Sherpa to the summit with hundreds of others in a row? Train for K2 or something. You wouldn't be doing it for the challenge, you'd be doing it for the clout and validation.

[@rjr7781]

@@Krystalmyth k2 is basically worse odds than Russian roulette, even for experienced climbers.

[@SUM1518]

If you want to become an alpinist is because you LOVE mountains, not records. Validation should come climbing mountains at your level, with your preparation. I think I would never be fully satisfied in climbing with Sherpas doing the majority of my work.

[@ilanamillion8942]

I would love to see Everest but only from the bottom, at a safe distance. I have zero desire to climb up anything higher than a step ladder..

[@empressmarowynn]

It's so frustrating that people with absolutely no business being on huge mountains are allowed to go if they have enough money. I don't care if they want to be stupid and put their own lives at risk but the problem is that it potentially harms others too. There's the people having to help them climb, or rescue them, or they become a hazard along the trail and other climbers must now find a different path in order to get around them. It's the worst combination of stupid and selfish and I don't feel bad for their passing whatsoever.

[@TC-dw6wg]

Horrible how the government is allowing $$$ to be main factor in climbing.

[@odac43]

The people that argue with their sherpas and want to keep going are dumb, but I don’t see a problem with people paying to try it. The sherpas are making a good living because of it and they know the risk. They have as much business being there as anyone.

[@nommadd5758]

@@odac43 : "Anything for money!" SMH!!

[@empressmarowynn]

@@odac43 There are plenty of other mountains all around the world they can try that are far easier. Making any 8,000er your first climb is like trying to perform heart surgery your first day in med school. You don't just jump directly into something extremely difficult and life threatening without any knowledge or experience.

[@odac43]

@@empressmarowynn that is very true, but I still don’t see the problem when there is an agreement between adults who are all aware of the risks involved. I don’t understand the hate they are getting. Probably jealousy because they are mostly rich people?

[@northidrecluse2306]

The climbing and mountaineering worlds were ruined by guided climbs of wealthy egomaniacs, going back to at least 1996.

[@GanymedeXD]

What bullshit … the climbing & mountaineering world does not consist of egomaniacs? They are doing exactly the same! Climbing! Among them there are no wealthy climbers? Arrogant and entitled comment! There are wealthy people climbing, but also many getting their trip sponsored to make it possible. And its the climbing and mountaineering world that founded companies to descend on beautiful and remote areas to offer breathtaking experiences. Where is the line between egomaniac, commercial and true climbing? Who are true climbers? Income? Equipment? Passion?

[@noidreculse8906]

@@GanymedeXD A”True Climber” is a person with a VISION to climb something “unclimbable”. A True Climber doesn’t use a guide and goes alone, without supplemental oxygen. REINHOLD MESSNER IS A TRUE CLIMBER. Totally reliant on himself alone. Why would a TRUE CLIMBER want to be stuck at 8000 meters in a line of struggling wannabes??? Everest has become a joke. The litter, the helicopter rescues, that’s not mountaineering. I get the employment opportunities for the Sherpas and the communities along the way to base camp, but it is out of control. The government greed is selling more permits than the mountain is capable of sustaining.

[@dreddtheviking3928]

This is also on the Nepalese government for not having standards for permits. Here, in Virginia's Shenandoah National Park, they time ticket the hardest hike in the park. While that hike is of no comparison to Everest, I think the idea should be implemented. There needs to be a limited number of permits issues to mitigate the number of people, damage to the mountain, increase safety. There should be a record of climbing mountains and distance hiking presented in order to get a permit, including one 8k meter mountain.

[@rollinrat4850]

Now there's some (not so) common sense! One of the longer large cycling events thats been held for over a century is Paris Brest Pairis. It's a several day cycling event of 1200 km, held every 4 years. To participate, you must complete a number of 'brevets' of increasing distances and be certified doing them. Thus giving you the right to join with decent potential to possibly finish the event. Many people still fail to finish.

[@junioradult6219]

Is it one of virginias main sources of money? For nepal it is

[@johng4093]

​@@junioradult6219Even in business there are considerations like brand image, reputation, etc. that are an important part of the equation. Perhaps guide associations, mountaineering clubs, tourism board (?) could bring more order to the situation, idk.

[@buckibanker]

Sherpas should be able to decline to take clients, that is ridiculous

[@mcrow9599]

money talks

[@glassesstapler]

3 suggestions for the Everest Industry 1. increase the price for permits enough for them to have 3 man team "evacuation" sherpas at base camp 4, to focus solely on evacuating medical emergencies. 2. require every climber to purchase a "trash bag" a burlap or plastic garbage sized bag that is required to return FULL to base camp 1, and have it verified by staff. 3. a "check out" climb at base camp 1 to establish "fitness" to go further on. Weed out tourists with inadequate mountain climbing experience. Most people attempting these climbs have enough funds to do it so charge a bit more to provide more safety, standards and cleanup on the mountains.

[@medler2110]

Increasing the cost of permits doesn't stop those climbers who are rich enough but not experienced enough to climb Everest and having more Sherpas won't stop them dying or risking Sherpas lives in getting them up the mountain or off the mountain when they aren't able to go further. Maybe permits should only be given to individuals, after they prove they have the experience, they then contact the companies who run the climb and book a place. Although not sure how prove you've got suitable experience.

[@Road_Rash]

Each climber pays an extra $4K for trash removal... it's refundable if they bring down 18 kilos of trash with them... that's the average amount left by each individual climber...so item #2 on your list is already required...

[@Nuttyirishman85]

The sherpas and porters can pick up the trash.

[@TC-dw6wg]

I believe #2 right now is a $400 deposit which is returned if they bring their garbage back down with them. Never heard of a $4,000 deposit, but maybe I’m wrong. Experience should be the main requirement to climb with verifiable proof.

[@LudwigVaanArthans]

​@@Nuttyirishman85it's already a cost in full permit price, so all good. The dumb dumbs pay

[@benjohnson8669]

Like your channel. People need to like and subscribe! Keep up the good work!

[@w.werion4801]

I think a very interesting takeaway would be that non of them "fell" to their death or anything. Its just the brutal cardio and the immense height.

[@arizonaranger2333]

It’s the cold mostly. You just freeze to death.

[@curtismsh9211]

​@@arizonaranger2333not the cold as much as the sheer lack of oxygen saturation in the air.

[@LisaF777]

It's the thin air

[@wisenber]

Everest hasn't been an overly technical climb in years. "Traffic jams" have been killing more climbers there in the last couple of decades as O2 canister deplete while you stand and wait for your turn to summit.

[@TheMaulam12345]

I WONDER WHY DONT THEY CARRY MORE O2. ARE THOSE HEAVY?

[@wisenber]

@@TheMaulam12345 Tanks are both heavy and bulky.

[@annakeye]

Part of the problem with Everest is it is presented in such a way that it appears to be big yet accessible. Even in this video, the footage is unable to provide images of just what it takes to be an individual that is capable of summitting Everest. Hell, even getting to Base Camp is a huge undertaking. The more that people hear of traffic jams and average people climbing, even with the horror stories, they just get spurred on more with the attitude of, "I've paid for this and I have Sherpa's and bright coloured clothing so I'm going to be able to do this".

[@medler2110]

Although this maybe also how these trips demise, as more people see the pictures of the queues and perceive it as "easy" therefore there is less kudos there is to climbing it for those who merely do it for the bragging rights, however I think this means mountains like K2 will becomes more popular for tourists climbers and they are even more dangerous.

[@Wigalot]

Getting to base camp isn't really a huge undertaking. It's only a 5km trek with two slightly steep sections that are zig zag pathed all the way up anyway. There is 0 climbing involved. Thousands and thousands of people do it every year.

[@Wigalot]

@@ColinMor-fj3qc Deaths on the route to base camp are extremely rare and occur due to other complications. It isn't that high of an altitude at all. Like I said, getting to base camp really isn't that hard of an undertaking. It is such an easy trek involving no climbing even beginners can do it. It's listed as a moderate route for trekking so it is even recommended for people with zero trekking experience.

[@uniaguilar]

But.. that’s the thing… more people die.. because more people are climbing..

[@annakeye]

@@Wigalot Have you seen how far the walk in to Base Camp is? It's 130km and takes 12 days as people slowly acclimatise.

[@nerisolivero385]

Excelente contenido 👌 Thanks you.

[@alenewalker1188]

I admit I know nothing about this subject but Ive always wondered why they can pack stuff in but they cant pack stuff out. Is there a really good reason?

[@stylesrj]

People are lazy and if you're carrying rubbish, you're not carrying supplies.

[@henryloo2448]

I do not feel sorry for this lady !!! She was warned numerous time by experts and still refuse to lesson.. Be respectful and use common sense. Unless you’re crazy or stupid or both.

[@Debra-qt3gz]

I Totally Agree it's called suicide Ok . Can't hang don't go need too carry your own Weight Everest is not place too reckless It will cost you your Life.

[@OneOut1]

I think this woman actually had a death wish to die on Everest thinking she might go down in history as a brave mountineer who sucummed to the elements on a brave and historic endeavor.

[@xen3588]

a fine line

[@AlexandrFeskoff]

It would be interesting to hear how sure Glacier Himalayan Trek were that Suzanne could accomplish the climb. Something tells me they anticipated easy money. Probably without client's death though.

[@CoalCreekCroft]

I can understand wanting to climb Everest. But once it starts resembling a line to the best ride at the park, what's the point?

[@louisthom2595]

Guided tours which take up relatively inexperienced climbers aren't something new - as per Jon Krakauer's book - Into Thin Air, such guided tours already started gaining traction back in the 1990s. But Suzanne Leopoldina Jesus' case is probably unique given that she had pretty much no experience whatsoever. May she RIP.

[@donrane]

Mountain assisted suicide

[@AndeanPuma5]

Dude I am a 33 y/o active woman I work out a few times a week, and felt like sht when I was at lake Titicaca for the first time. I cannot even imagine how does it feel to be put in a extreme condition like this. But someone with a pacemaker? My god..

[@rolimiranda9291]

Well, even those highly experienced,extremely fit and skilled died on this mountain. What suzanne did was total madness

[@Icewing10]

I have no desire to climb this mountain. I wouldn't mind getting to the base of it though. Is that difficult too? Did anyone ask what a pace maker does that high above sea level?

[@danielbarbour3501]

I'm not sympathetic of Suzanne's plight, it was her foolhardy stubbornness that brought her to her end and her family should give thanks that Suzanne did not cause others to suffer from her behavior. Sure, some stubbornness (perseverance) is necessary but it needs to be 'informed' based on experience - trying to climb Everest with no other experience is simply ill considered (I'd use stronger words but fear KZbin would remove my comment).

[@mrsfrappucchinoblub6005]

this is the perfect phrase. People confuse stubbornness and selfishness with perseverance and make it seem a good thing to just "pull through" no matter what. While this might be a good attitude in some situations in life, it definitely is not on an 8000m peak 😬

[@antoniotula262]

​@mrsfrappucchinoblub6005 Particularity when she had no experience and was 59, with a pacemaker! This is some form of mental illness. It would be amazing if she climbed a 1500ft mountain, much less Everest.

[@dee8714]

I thought everyone had to have experience to climb Mount Everest and have already climbed several high mountains.

[@norrecvizharan1177]

Nope. Sadly, with enough money, even total couch potatos who haven't hiked a day in their life can pay to go up there.@@dee8714

[@theyrenuts2845]

Youre my favourite Everest/climbing ect channel because i love your voice and narration 'above' all others.. thanks forreachingthe summitof my appreciation.

[@tomsanders5584]

Seasoned Everest mountaineers like myself always say: "If you don't respect the mountain, the mountain won't respect you!"

[@alexm2873]

I really love how people (at least all of the serious ones I've seen on YT) go back to their roots and become animists when they deal with the big mountains. Seems like such a spiritual undertaking from the outside looking in. Maybe it's the risk; I hear people talking similarly about surfing big waves.

[@johng4093]

​@@alexm2873I think it's just acknowledging the great power of natural forces (weather, altitude, etc) that can easily kill a puny human, especially if unprepared or overconfident.

[@Lucky-nv2ph]

Its hard for a struggling economic country like Nepal to say no to all these rich tourists.

[@davidpawson7393]

Experienced or not people who climb are who I use to think cared about their environment but seeing the amount of trash makes me sick. 4 years ago I couldn't walk and a mountain bike accident this morning on the road I'm back three legging it but still filled up a bucket with trash that accumulated since Saturday morning along the state highway my piece of paradise in New Hampshire is on. 7 months living here equals 5,400 plus butts alone and I smoke yet don't use the no ashtray excuse. There is a fire risk too. Apologies for ranting but this subject really irks me especially on a fixed income dealing with pain, pain and you guessed it better things to do.

[@wmluna381]

I work at a state park now on the maintenance crew. I feel your pain. Before I worked there I still picked up loose trash on my own for free. People simply just don't care. Bunch of entitled f*cks. Smokers in particular are real pieces of shite constantly using the world as their personal ashtray. Butts on the beach, in the woods, sides of the road...it doesn't stop.

[@mishmishsregularlyirregula7988]

Sadly it’s all about the foreign money as the country is cash strapped and people are in huge need . We are trekkers and have been to Nepal’s Himalayas twice now , a third time in coming years . We have no intention to summit any of the peaks as we are simply not mountaineers let alone experienced mountaineers. The trails are still a great experience 😊 .We have been lucky enough to have spoken with extremely experienced mountaineers and their adventures plus several Sherpa’s who have summited Everest and other peaks above 8000 mtrs. Even they say it is dangerous and will not do it again , partly because of age but more-so the dangers. They say they essentially have to for the money and the companies say it is their job to get the customers up there . It is NOT just a matter of pay and go to say ‘ I did it ‘, you MUST have high altitude mountaineering experience or quite simply death will catch you up …….not to mention putting all the ‘paid’ Sherpa teams in danger themselves - how selfish!

[@antoniotula262]

You are honest and realistic about your experience and abilities. Yet, you are better qualified than several others who think paying a ton of money magically enables them to successfully climb Everest.

[@lesliepropheter5040]

The sherpas decide to bring people up, take their money, risk their lives. Leaving a trail of bodies and garbage up there - I’m surprised they don’t consider that mountain after a god or goddess in ancient tradition. How to disrespect a monument that means so much ….

[@somedumbozzie1539]

Most of them do it for the bragging rights and they are slobs who leave all their garbage behind what they should do is take a large deposit and an equipment inventory and when you bring all your crap off the mountain you get your money back.

[@jamesduke9809]

Didn't need to go to Nepal to know that.

[@junioradult6219]

Sherpas do it bc they can make over 10 times in a couple months then they would make in a year otherwise. Alot on everest are making over 100k

[@georgewashington938]

20+ years ago Everest was said to be a trash pile of things left by climbers. I can't imagine how disapointing some aspects of the mountain have degraded even further.

[@thepug991]

I’d probably want to climb a handful of other tallest peaks first. I climb 14,000 feet stuff in colorado and that can spook me out at times

[@cjsfo]

It baffles my mind that they even let inexperienced people on the mountain in the first place. It is heartbreaking to see money trumps human lives.

[@bergrud]

Crazy to think someone has the power to not let people on a mountain. Nature is for everyone. Allmans right.

[@yesterdayitrained]

Money has always trumped human lives, throughout all of human history.

[@wisenber]

"It baffles my mind that they even let inexperienced people on the mountain in the first place. " It's not a very technical climb. Physical fitness and equipment trump training to summit Everest. While lower, K2 requires all three.

[@hermiasvisser812]

Exactly

[@jeffreyharris3440]

It's not baffling at all. This is about their only "export" worth speaking about, tourism. So while mountain climbing is kind of an extreme version of tourism, that's still what it is. What products does Nepal export? Do you know? Where do you think they get their foreign currency? There is zero pressure for Nepal to further "regulate" or limit the number of climbers. If stupid crazy foreigners want to give us money and hire our citizens, then they will gladly take the stupid rich foreigners' money. The morality may be shady, but economics are crystal clear. I just checked, and in 2021, a permit to climb Everest was $11,000. Some equipment you can bring with you, but it costs thousands of dollars each to hire cooking, cargo and climbing sherpas. Add in food, transportation, hotel stays and whatnot, that's a lot of money. Also the oxygen masks and tanks. Over 400 climbing permits are issued each year now. This is a multi-million dollar industry in a country that has little else.

[@thedudeabides3138]

Suzanne’s obstinacy cost her her life….kinda hard to feel sorry for that.

[@masamune2984]

At first for that second story I thought you accidentally fell asleep on the keyboard, or your cat jumped on it, before realizing it was just the person’s name 😅😂

[@Dee-nonamnamrson8718]

The second fatality had zero to do with inexperience. Evensome of the most experienced climbers have developed altitude sickness in the death zone. The first wasn't inexperience as much as it was an insane person. The "inexperienced climbers" narrative is the reason there are so many inexperienced climbers. They've heard time and time again that anyone can summit Everest. Back when that narrative started, even the "inexperienced" climbers were all accomplished mountaineers.

[@Kivikesku]

If the second climber had been more experienced, he might have recognized the symptoms of mountain sickness early on and could have turned back towards safety in time. As far as the first fatality is concerned, she did not have the needed skillset, which is nearly synonymous to inexperience.

[@Dee-nonamnamrson8718]

@@Kivikesku she was inexperienced, but that didn't cause her death. She basically committed self deletion via mountain.

[@jennycox4463]

You wanna talk insane Everest climbers? Try looking up Maurice Wilson, died 1934

[@f.prince6642]

10:24 to think of all the bodies they can’t remove getting trash thrown on them is a sad thought. Like you said all for that little box to check off for life.

[@The_Texorcist]

Most of what I know about mountain climbing and Everest were from a few docs I watched about that one incident a while ago. From what I remember at that time the issue was that because it was a pretty profitable business a ton of companies wanted in and some didn’t care who they sent up as long as the check clears. So in the small window they get for ascents ya got a ton of people on the mountain being slowed down by traffic jams cause of these people and thus creating an unsafe environment. I respect the ones that only accept people who not only have the experience but also are in peak physical shape. Doesn’t matter how much money someone wants to throw at ya, if there is a high likelihood of them being a liability your out.

[@TheMerryPrangster]

Requesting sponsorship please- the first ever climber with a toe ring and belly button stud to summit. It'll be a world first.

[@Beth-sn9ip]

Lol!

[@gregparrott]

It's hard to feel much sympathy for those who lack training and validation of basic skills, forgo easier summit attempts before attempting Everest, ignore clear signs that they're incapable of even an ascent out of base camp, and ignore the most stern recommendations and warnings by Sherpas. I've previously heard similar stories, risking their lives, the lives of other, more capable climbers, and the Sherpas. For some, it looked like just a death wish - granted.

[@sphynxster06]

There should be a medical team funded by climbers/officials to give final permission or not , to summit, via advice from Sherpas. Based at the last check point/camp. With evidences such as the woman’s deteriorating times and physical symptoms.People like her should NOT be allowed to make that decision . No refunds either for those deemed unfit.

[@man_down511]

How much is it to climb ?

[@garyf78]

I’m just going to go take a selfie with the junkyard in background and say I was hiking up Mt Everest 😢

[@Wigalot]

I think its the companies that allow and encourage unfit or unable climbers that are to blame.

[@turnwaiter]

Some youtuber posted a series on everest base camp recently and the commercialization is insane. Luxurious "tents" with electricity, open bars, chefs and buffets everywhere. If you have the money you can pay to have a professional essentially hold your hand the whole way and if anything goes wrong its expected they risk their own life to drag your ass back down.

[@McGuirkEats]

@@turnwaiterthe wonton don? Love that dude.

[@Jack-hy1zq]

K2 is actually the "ultimate dream" for most mountaineers. It is impossible for inexperienced climbers to summit K2.

[@valerierodger]

So, you haven’t heard that K2 has become Everest 2.0? Expedition companies are there to hold your hand and get you to the summit…

[@harrynadeau2103]

That's right. So true. K2 is a badass Mt.

[@Jack-hy1zq]

@@valerierodger And watch the bodies pile up.

[@junioradult6219]

​@@valerierodgerlol you let everyone know how ignorant you are

[@JoeRogansForehead]

How does it take 12 hours to go 250 meters ?

[@carbino1055]

I remember watching the documentary where the blind man had paid to be carried to the top of Everest. Don't ask me why it was so important for him.

[@bluecat2741]

Nature can be a gruesome teacher to those who didn't do their homework.