Been obsessed with Infinite ever since Forces came out, and it makes me so happy to see people talk about him positively. Honestly I love through the Phantom Ruby he's become genuinely incredibly powerful, while showing time and again that his own fear of being seen as "weak" becomes hia downfall. And I am SO glad you bring up how Infinite and the Avatar parallel each other. They are the other's foil.
@MrDepravedАй бұрын
Thwomp:URGH!
@JCGamer5YTАй бұрын
Thwomp: “please, after im done with him, that positivity wont last long.”
@gorebonebunny13 күн бұрын
чуваки увидевшие эту анимацию снова высираются 🤩🤘🏻 и пофиг что это просто не канон))
@MrDepraved13 күн бұрын
@@gorebonebunny Uhhh.... wha?
@comicfan13249 ай бұрын
To me, infinite is the definition of “having great power, but not knowing how to use it.” This guy could be a universal threat if he didn’t waste time, trying to torment his foes and let them live to fight another day just so he can see them runaway in fear. That’s not an insult, if anything, I think it’s actually a pretty good character flaw for a villain. But in terms of pure power, if you took away his vanity, he would definitely be a force to be reckoned with.
@emmanueldavis18729 ай бұрын
That's the perfect interpretation. He literally has limitless power, so he could've recreated reality he could've killed everyone on the planet without lifting a finger. He really did just not know ow to use his power to it's fullest. Infinite's backstory or life doesn't even match with his character beside the fact that he's supposed to be a bunch of the toughest villains in one and that he's way edgier than Shadow.
@DialingDock29 ай бұрын
The weapon alone isn't dangerous. It's how you use the weapon.
@emmanueldavis18729 ай бұрын
@@DialingDock2 True dat!
@mikagesama19909 ай бұрын
I'm working on other projects atm, but I'll see if I can rework this interpretation into a fanfic of mine.
@SilverKojin7 ай бұрын
Would love to see him return, too bad Sega killed him off
@HyperShan39 ай бұрын
I’m just relieved to know that I’m not the only person who views Infinite like this. Infinite is one of my favourite villains in the Sonic universe. He caused so much damage in a short amount of time & is somehow always a step ahead whilst unwittingly taking 2 steps back (until the very end). Thanks for putting all this in video form!
@SonicTheory969 ай бұрын
Unrelated, but I very much enjoy your music mashups!
@BrandonScott-mi5pz4 ай бұрын
EXCELLENT WORK. SONIC THEORY INFINITE EXPLAINS 👍 VIDEO
@MrDepravedАй бұрын
Thwomp:URGH!
@FoxsDumbSeriesMaker9 ай бұрын
At last, somebody putting some respect on my boi Infinite’s name. So many people focus on how bad Forces was, the terrible writing, and that weird Episode Shadow scene, often ignoring Infinite’s feats and actual abilities. He (along with the Phantom Ruby) have such unique and potentially frightening abilities, much like Ruvik from the Evil Within. I would absolutely love to see Infinite return someday, playing the role of the true main villain and final boss. His potential is higher than most Sonic villains, and let’s be real: His design is just too cool to waste in Forces of all games.
@emmanueldavis18729 ай бұрын
Ikr
@fatalfractal12989 ай бұрын
Ok fox question what do you think bout Sonic focus overclock dlc is it same bad writing then original?
@FoxsDumbSeriesMaker9 ай бұрын
@@fatalfractal1298From what I’ve seen of Overclocked (Dolphin Deck’s play through), the writing is substantially better. It made Infinite a true terror while giving Metal Sonic a fresh new role, and both villains had surprisingly good chemistry. Infinite screwing over Eggman and renaming his army the Phantom Army? Chef’s kiss!
@fatalfractal12989 ай бұрын
@@FoxsDumbSeriesMaker yeah but it there was a scene where infinite and metal sonic confront Sonic and character they battle it out was about to win however, metal sonic did praying Mantis villains move for dummies and send your avatar to Null Space leaving Sonic to after him. Infinite then argues with Neo Metal, wondering why he let Sonic run away and he quoted he just wanted to break Sonic spirit and make his efforts meaningless.😮💨 Understand why writer want their hero to lives without the heroes, how they going to continue the franchise without main character.
@Zero_de_Nova9 ай бұрын
He dopt the sun like is was nothing, really cool.
@MayanFrighter1000009 ай бұрын
I get what they were going for, but damn the writing was horrible. Infinite could’ve been the Darth Maul of the Sonic the Hedgehog universe under a better writer instead of being considered mid. Hopefully if Sega is willing to give him a second chance, Ian Flynn and writers of IDW could fix him like how they fix the Deady Six.
@SonicTheory969 ай бұрын
The writing really did a huge disservice to his character
@MayanFrighter1000009 ай бұрын
@@SonicTheory96 agree with you on that one. The deadly six proves that there are no such things as bad characters, just bad writers for characters. If Ian Flynn and IDW can turn Zavok, Zazz, Zomom, Master Zik, Zeena and Zor into the unrefined versions of Knightfall-Arkham Origin Bane, kid friendly Carnage, quick to anger Fat Buu, Ra’s Al Ghul, narcissistic Poison Ivy and emo Scarecrow, they can turn Infinite into the Darth Maul of the Sonic Universe.
@BBK1139 ай бұрын
That's not saying much since Maul sucked in The Phantom Menace
@MayanFrighter1000009 ай бұрын
@@BBK113 it was a lot of things I don’t like about Phantom Menace, mainly, it’s pacing, some of the dialogues, and it’s poor timing when it comes to humor but Darth maul was one of the several graces. Also, Jar Jar what is okay character Who suffer from poor writing and poor timing on jokes.
@BBK1139 ай бұрын
@@MayanFrighter100000 Maul in the Phantom Menace is hard carried by cool factor alone, he's utilized so much better during the clone wars and I liked his ending in rebels
@lasercraft329 ай бұрын
I think the main misconception comes from how _unclear_ the Phantom Rubies abilities are... Like, they say "oh hey these are just illusions, they aren't real," but then also make it a point that you can still be _hurt_ by the so called "illusions." At that point how are they illusions? He can literally alter reality. He also just happens to be pretty _terrible_ at using his powers competently. Every time you face him in-game he's kind of a pushover.
@dayvonlouis51879 ай бұрын
Story vs gameplay segregation though the conclusion I’ve gathered it’s similar to the idea of conceptual reality/cognitive distortion in a sense from where you think something is happening it is happening for example if you believe you’ve been shot you have been shot then you feel the pain of it and yes Infinite is a pushover him getting the drop on Sonic and Shadow in the prologue can be attributed to being caught off guard if at any point the phantom ruby has its power negated he’s beaten pretty easily infact infinite himself got his ass kicked by Sonic twice after he was empowered by the ruby by Shadow in a curbstomp fashion to where he wasn’t even a blip on his radar before the ruby enhancement and by your oc when the Ruby’s abilities were stymied by the prototype he has carrying Plus he is as arrogant as he is foolish with his abilities but that’s not to say the Ruby is limitless like the emeralds are even when Eggman used the “full power” of the ruby against the hero trio neither Super Sonic or the typical power trio of Sonic Tails or Knuckles were needed to beat him even though logical use of ruby _could’ve_ made infinite to be the most dangerous threat so far excluding Dark Gaia and Solaris
@J_E_R_S-t6c9 ай бұрын
I always took it as the ohantom ruby makes the illusions physical to anyone under its power, so for example the sun infinite made was only real to the resistance and the eggman empire saw no sun above them So basically it messes with reality but needs people that can see that and probably the more people the stronger the alteration of reality becomes
@FirestoneAnimation9 ай бұрын
@@J_E_R_S-t6cseems like that.
@Elffhunter4579 ай бұрын
I thought of it like his illusions weren't directed towards anyone in specific, but rather towards reality itself. Making the basically real
@shadowslime36409 ай бұрын
I just saw it that it could make illusions and the user could choose whether they're psychosomatic or not
@Luisp123_luckbutter219 ай бұрын
My favorite sonic villain Finally getting respect *sniff* Im not crying, Your crying
@ShadowFanQuills39 ай бұрын
Bruh
@emmanueldavis18729 ай бұрын
Ikr
@Telocomix999 ай бұрын
Infinite's my favourite too
@galaxygimbiino85449 ай бұрын
Yes, I really liked his character, shame the game he debuted in wasn't the best...
@EXE_FAKER9 ай бұрын
My boy finally got the respect that they didn't gave him
@kaledevastator7397Ай бұрын
Thwomp: Are you sure about that?
@AlexDoesStuff-d1xАй бұрын
URGG!
@gaso3035Ай бұрын
URGG!
@Froob-rs1ooАй бұрын
Infinite: PLEASE THWOMP I NEED THIS 😭😭
@abigmonster8457Ай бұрын
URGH!!
@SilversteeneАй бұрын
“OURGH!” -👺🗿
@MrDepravedАй бұрын
I love how half the comments are people feeling sorry for infinite and the other half are people talking about him getting Thwomped. Damn, death battle made his reputation go down the drain
@SonicTheory96Ай бұрын
His reputation was already rough too lol! I still think he's a very interesting character though
@MrDepravedАй бұрын
@SonicTheory96 Yeah he is still an intriguing character. Also hey, on the bright side death battle brought me and a lot more viewers to your video! Thats a win
@Gadget-and-infinite-cutecoupleАй бұрын
@@SonicTheory96 i think infinite the jackal wii be anti-hero on future. is real.
@Squeam9750Ай бұрын
Nah they Came back with this fight. Even mfers on Sonic's side knew he was cooked the moment King Boo was mentioned. It's illusions vs reality warping frfr
@Sonicbitter100Ай бұрын
@@Squeam9750you dont understand infinite than, because his illusions literally become reality as stated by Tails
@RyanZilla-tw6ubАй бұрын
“URGH” -Thwomp
@MrDepravedАй бұрын
Thwomp:URGH!
@datonegod34969 ай бұрын
“Stand proud, Infinite. You're strong.”
@LmaoLevi3 ай бұрын
- said Mephiles, without being fused with Iblis.
@endergameing1053 ай бұрын
@@LmaoLeviBRO CAN WE HAVE A VIDEO WITHOUT THIS TYPE OF COMMENT
@kennethtristangaming3674Ай бұрын
Thwomp:"i will never forget you for as long as i live."
@MrDepravedАй бұрын
@@kennethtristangaming3674Thwomp:URGH!
@lucas.n.carvalho.artist9 ай бұрын
Excellent work on this analysis! You perfectly encapsulated many elements that make me hold Infinite and Sonic Forces as a whole in such affection and fascination despite its flaws and how much scrutiny it gets.
@SonicTheory969 ай бұрын
There's some really great stuff in Forces despite all its flaws 😁
@MrDepravedАй бұрын
Thwomp:URGH!
@thetowerofmadness9 ай бұрын
I always see it as infinite veiws power being how much someone is worth
@MrDepravedАй бұрын
Thwomp:URGH!
@seanfulldark9 ай бұрын
Honestly what would make him even more interesting is pointing out my theory that the phantom Ruby is actually a bootstrap paradox of egg man's research of the time stones! Also I'm currently using him as the main villain in a fanfiction against the diamond cutters
@EndYouTubeShorts_9 ай бұрын
Nice. I might want to read it.
@Danilo-tk1tj7 ай бұрын
Where can i read that?
@MrDepravedАй бұрын
Thwomp:URGH!
@GojiBoiEarth1964Ай бұрын
All that just to get solo’ed by a brick is crazy 😭🙏
@MrDepravedАй бұрын
Thwomp:URGH!
@emmanueldavis18729 ай бұрын
All I needed to see was that Infinite has limitless power to know that he's more powerful than people think. People would be wise to not underestimate people like that. He just had bad writing and whether writing is good or bad, there's always gonna be someone with bad taste who will think the writing is bad. Infinite should return and so should the custom character.
@sweetoil29529 ай бұрын
Oh my gosh, I LOVED WATCHING THIS VIDEO! I’ve been saying these things and to hear them voiced in a well-put-together video is amazing!! Over 15 mins video about Infinite bringing up good points about him, I LOVE IT! 🤩 Thanks for making this!
@goombaluigi86813 ай бұрын
Let's not forget infinite has a legitimately good cold line in. "i will teach you pain then fear...then... Well at least the pain and fear will stop"
@TheMamaluigi300Ай бұрын
Idk about that one; maybe the line delivery would sell it, but on paper, it kinda sounds like “I will teach you pain and fear… then… pain… and fear, and pain, and itching and… and fear and… pain… Sooo much paiiin… so much pain…”
@Exeternal_Beyonder_Of_DoomsdayАй бұрын
Honestly he just kinds felt a bit too edgy honestly but where it's coming from I got where it's at
@MrDepravedАй бұрын
Thwomp response:URGH!
@kingsombra40539 ай бұрын
Infinite's scaling is insane, Eggman considers him 1000 times more powerful than any of his past plans and is stated in the guides to be more powerful than any villain Sonic faced before. Sonic and the custom character require the power of friendship to beat Infinite, something that can power the chaos emeralds.
@MrDepravedАй бұрын
Thwomp:URGH!
@vexversaa239Ай бұрын
King Boo’s counter argument: *UURRGH!*
@thesymbiotenation.4552Ай бұрын
*Drops Twomp on Infinite*
@MrDepravedАй бұрын
Thwomp:URGH!
@pixelcat2923 күн бұрын
After watching the Death Battle several times, I really needed this.
@PkGroundOmegaАй бұрын
Infinite: *increases gravity* King boo: "You activated my trap card! I play thwomp!"
@TeamEmerald3Ай бұрын
Infinite: you bi*ch! This is why no one play with you King Boo!
@IsBamOkayАй бұрын
A large sentient rectangle stone with spikes on all sides:
@MrDepravedАй бұрын
Twhomp:URGH!
@warsharkproductions6550Ай бұрын
Thwomp sends his regards
@MrDepravedАй бұрын
Thwomp:URGH!
@charmyzard9 ай бұрын
That medieval Infinite's looking pretty fire though.
@Notpeppinowithgun1Ай бұрын
the devious and cheeky Thwomp:
@MrDepravedАй бұрын
Thwomp:URGH!
@gg.420Ай бұрын
Thwomp solo
@MrDepravedАй бұрын
Thwomp:URGH!
@ClashMasterStudios29 ай бұрын
I Always like Infinite never have a Problem with his Character I hope I see him comeback In the future
@maleficking6556Ай бұрын
Certainly a time for this to be in my feed.
@locateseekdestroy785Ай бұрын
*Thwomp noises*
@TherealfogbornАй бұрын
URGHH
@RedX039 ай бұрын
I always loved infinites power to its lantern ring similarities It’s arguably better than the rings since the construct’s can act basically as independent as you allow it not to mention you can just flat out creat a pocket dimension
@MrDepravedАй бұрын
Thwomp:URGH!
@RedX03Ай бұрын
@ eyyyyy 🫰
@aidaniscreative636Ай бұрын
The thwomp on the ceiling:
@maximoarana5549Ай бұрын
Lol
@MrDepravedАй бұрын
Thwomp:URGH!
@AlexHyena17 ай бұрын
the classic "I suffered so why shouldn't they" vs "I suffered so they wouldn't have to" battle
@MrDepravedАй бұрын
Thwomp:URGH!
@dmk_yt9 ай бұрын
This video highlights one of my frustrations with Sonic stories over the years. I really dislike these prequel comics/animations. The magic conch shell from Lost World was such a random one-off element, but I'm pretty sure it was introduced in a prequel comic. Infinite's entire reason for working with Eggman, as well as various other story elements of Sonic Forces, were locked behind these comics. The entire reason for Knuckles showing up in Frontiers was explained in a prequel animation on social media (there was also a prequel comic, but there wasn't too much there you couldn't already infer from the game itself). The entire set-up for what was going on in Sonic Superstars was locked behind a prequel comic and an online animation. I don't mind supplementary material for these games, but when every major game requires some sort of external reading/viewing to fully grasp what's going on, it starts to become a bit wearisome.
@SonicTheory969 ай бұрын
Understandable, though I would argue that most of these prequel comics or shorts are supplemental to the story. While being a nice edition for fans that want more, the games usually do a fine job exploring the story they want to within the game itself. Thats just my opinion though 😁
@ヤウАй бұрын
*Thwomp Intensifies*
@ZhyrenАй бұрын
Wonder how king boo feels about that
@MinhjagoАй бұрын
King Boo definitely Requiem that thwomps.He don’t fw infinite
@MrDepravedАй бұрын
Thwomp:URGH!
@Squeam9750Ай бұрын
@@Minhjago Idk I think King Boo snubs his ass
@stephanstrange86929 ай бұрын
What a sensational video, I wish more fans of the franchise would watch this and understand what Infinite is (or what it was supposed to be). I don't understand SEGA continuing to use him as products or skins in some random games, and leaving him aside in canon things like IDW itself, and I know that Ian Flynn would do a good job to fix it, but this comes SEGA wants, and we know if it depends he will come in another commemorative game as a random boss. I really hope that Infinite comes back, in fact, he has become my favorite character since the concept art.
@justice87183 ай бұрын
Infinite is Sonic Team’s edgy OP son. They know people like him, but they view him and Sage as Eggman-essential characters
@fatalwaffle17159 ай бұрын
Zero/Infinite The Jackal is just like his Nintendo Counterpart Skull Kid. And he's not weak. He's an undead.
@EdgardoJCruz-dk5kv9 ай бұрын
I'm sorry what? Infinite/Zero was never a zombie and neither was Skull Kid.
@fatalwaffle17159 ай бұрын
I never said Skull Kid was a zombie. He's an undead. And Infinite may be a living being, but Skull Kid and Infinite share the same pain. Both have done similar things. They are basically the same person.
@TheGooseOfChaos9 ай бұрын
Zero to Infinite...? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
@fatalwaffle17159 ай бұрын
Yeah.
@InfiniteThePhantomJackal9 ай бұрын
@@TheGooseOfChaos will note though that, as much as I love the Zero headcanon and use it myself a lot, official word is he's always been named Infinite even before he got the Phantom Ruby.
@drolan88299 ай бұрын
Infinite had soo much potential, the idea was there, but the execution and how he was written…. It’s gotten to a point where infinite from speed battle is more threatening/powerful than him, it’s just rlly sad. Also, love the warlock infinite thumbnail, looks sick 🔥
@starfilmsracing9 ай бұрын
Infinite has potential he needs to come back
@JT_Toons9 ай бұрын
Infinite needs to team up with Mephiles
@starfilmsracing9 ай бұрын
@@JT_Toons Agreed
@Real_cinderace9 ай бұрын
@@JT_Toonshe needs to follow mephiles steps
@PGbutalsofourteenplus9 ай бұрын
He’s in SonicForces Overclocked
@MikaOfficial9994 ай бұрын
Despite what most think, Infinite is far more powerful than any enemy before Forces. Iirc he’s a trillion times stronger according to the Japanese version.
@AllenTheAnimator004Ай бұрын
Infinite: I AM NOT WEAK! Thwomp: Aww cute
@MrDepravedАй бұрын
I think you mean:URGH!
@LzeniXАй бұрын
URGH!
@Mister_OddityАй бұрын
been looking for a joke like this here
@MrDepravedАй бұрын
@@Mister_Oddity They are everywhere, just keep scrolling
@voidastralbirthАй бұрын
I believe Infinite is the kind of villain that can easily be crushed with great force by a Thwomp.
@AndroEnergenicАй бұрын
Context: Infinite changed the gravity pull which King Boo thought of the most disrespectful defeat to him ever aka by using a Thwomp because of the Gravitational Pull and the Thwomp would have SO MUCH FORCE.
@phantommyst1933Ай бұрын
@@AndroEnergenictrue
@thesymbiotenation.4552Ай бұрын
@@AndroEnergenic yep, so basically Infinite killed himself... Ironic
@jacsonf13419 ай бұрын
*"IM NOT WEAK!"* Me: "okie 😐"
@captaincortez491712 күн бұрын
King Boo: 😐
@nobodyhimself164323 күн бұрын
Thwomp: stand proud you are strong
@valli111Ай бұрын
Watching this after the deathbattle is so funny
@MrDepravedАй бұрын
Thwomp:URGH!
@eldritchangel4058Ай бұрын
I needed to see this video. Thank you for making this. Hopefully it helps other fans.
@NessaTheBat19 ай бұрын
I view Infinite now less stupid. Sonic Forces has bad writing but I now see the story hey aimed for. Also your avatar looks very cute, love her.
@SonicTheory969 ай бұрын
Thanks! I had fun customizing her 😊
@awesomeowenproductions494Ай бұрын
Bro died to a thwomp I don't want to hear it
@lorenzoantonio3630Ай бұрын
Bro got killed by the most powerful enemy the twomp
@Border_HopprАй бұрын
Infinite: I am the ultimate strength! The indomitable Thwomp: URGG!
@gentlepeeps33519 ай бұрын
Hope he comes back with some writers who care
@MrDepravedАй бұрын
Thwomp:URGH!
@Time-yn8meАй бұрын
That sure is a lot of glazing for the Thwompulent One
@MrDepravedАй бұрын
Thwomp:URGH!
@apoole54Ай бұрын
I think one of the reasons infinite chose to work with egg man was one because of power of course but also because the other option was probably deaf infinite in his squad had just found out about egg man‘s new secret weapon. He wouldn’t just let them go easily.
@jeanette9760Ай бұрын
sad for him that he got one shot by thwomp
@ghoulthedamnedАй бұрын
Me finding this right after watching the Bowser vs Eggman Deathbattle: 👀
@wandering_nobodyАй бұрын
Death battle (a mass majority of the time) is about as accurate as a man with Parkinson's trying to piss into a thimble thirty yards away Into the wind. Which is to say, not at all.
@slimer44producciones3Ай бұрын
@@wandering_nobody I didn't know Parkinson man turned into Hawkeye when pissing Might as well calle then "The Sniper"
@joaovitorsantosdasilva7865Ай бұрын
@@wandering_nobodyyea theres no way that infinite survived that long
@MrDepravedАй бұрын
@@wandering_nobodyThwomp:URGH!
@obithegamerАй бұрын
@@wandering_nobodyoh no anyway URGH
@RackerTheRascalMashup9 ай бұрын
Eggman states that the phamtom ruby + infinite is his greatest creation, eggman managed to modify and control the the time eater in the past, this makes it seem like eggman considered the power of the phamtom ruby to be greater than the time eater who took 2 super hedgehogs to be defeated with the time eater easily being able to one shot modern and classic sonic at once, same modern sonic who could now defeat perfect chaos in his base form showing that the phamtom ruby in the wrong hands CAN MAKE A REALLY BIG MESS showing that it does make sense that eggman could take control of the world almost entirely, plus, eggman was so sure of the power of the phamtom ruby that he stated that he wouldn't even need the master emerald anymore suggesting that if used correctly by the right person, the ruby could be more powerful than the master emerald, now, you could say that is an hyperbole in eggman's part since he was still testing the phamtom ruby being a classic moment of eggman's ego and i wouldn't say you're wrong since it is possible, but eggman is usually right about these things, like how he was right in saying metal sonic could only be defeated with the chaos emeralds or his assumptions about solaris which were right the phamtom ruby clones are said to be just as powerful as the original ones, the game doesn't quite reflect it very well with only a few being notable clones but it's still something that could be spammed and used to overwhelm others like it did to sonic and shadow (who stated he couldn't win against a big bunch alone since they would keep showing up), the null void is an infinitely sized dimension, the phamtom ruby is one of the most powerful items in the sonic series, let's not forget that classic sonic nedeed to go super sonic to defeat the heavy king with the phamtom ruby, classic is much weaker but should be remotely comparable to his modern self so my ideal powerscaling for sonic villains up to forces would be Infinite > Time Eater > Nega Wisp Armor > Zavok
@NewVision_true9 ай бұрын
I agree with the most part, however I still don't believe the Phantom Ruby is more powerful than the Master Emerald, since in the recent Sonic Central stories, which are canon to the games, where Super Sonic fight against "Super Eggman" and he uses the phantom ruby to create these universes and Super Sonic basically punches and destroys each one of them till he defeats and breaks the Ruby. Which proves that the Phantom Ruby is not even more powerful than the Chaos Emeralds.
@Zero_de_Nova9 ай бұрын
Dont forget Infinite is (more or less) loyal to Eggman.
@playerback77229 ай бұрын
Also Solaris isn't a creation he is a God and Time Eater wasn't his creation as well he just was amped at the end as he was already powerfully from the start also it was the prototype which was weaker than the original
@J_E_R_S-t6c9 ай бұрын
The phantom ruby is definetly not stronger than the Master emerald, only the overflow que energy, the little bits that cant be contained within it are able to lift the whole of angel island, it isnt even a real fraction of the Master Emerald's power, its just TOO powerful It even trascends space and time, the Master emerald is exactly the same in past present and future and all other timelines and dimentions as confirmed by Sonic Rivals
@Zero_de_Nova9 ай бұрын
@@J_E_R_S-t6cTo be fair the Emeralds are more like Batteries (Infinite Power) while the Ruby is more like the Phihlosviser Stone.
@sonicultimateyt1090Ай бұрын
King Boo: Am i a joke to you?
@Karson-Duh-Fox3 ай бұрын
All he needed to be a perfect Sonic villain 1: Actually, be the main villain with no Eggman involvement whatsoever 2: Not only should he look more menacing, but he souldve got a major power boost at the climax like somehow unearthing Pandora's box and absorbing all of its power to become near unstoppable
@metaltrashbucketАй бұрын
The spiked stone: 🗿URGH
@TherealfogbornАй бұрын
Thwomp is it's name
@metaltrashbucketАй бұрын
@Therealfogborn and thwomping is it's game
@storyshiftchara8672Ай бұрын
Yes we can't beat him but he can Thwomp:
@MrDepravedАй бұрын
Thwomp:URGH!
@meandmybro_aredeaf6991Ай бұрын
Yet a thwomp can beat his ass
@MrDepravedАй бұрын
Thwomp:URGH!
@colekleijnen20609 ай бұрын
If i were to bring Infinite back into the story somehow, it would probably go something like this. The avatar, after departing the Resistance, has lingering thoughts about Infinite and the dialogues they had during the war. Things like 'you can only count on yourself' and the final plea he makes before being warped into the ruby being betrayed by Eggman. With this in mind he sets out to attempt to find Infinite. (If i were a writer i would retcon the scene where the Avatars ruby was shattered and show them having it with them in secret. Thus a legitmate reason to find Infinite to maybe train the avatar on how to use it.) After several plot elements and scenes they would eventually find Infinite in a secret Eggman facility, but then realizing that this isnt Infinite, but Zero. (yes i know its not his canon name) Implying that the Infinite we fought during the war was nothing but the result of the doctors experiments, which would match some things said and shown in Forces, such as Amy and Tails comments made during Final Judgment and the opening scene of Eggmans monologue in a room of tanks with one of them holding infinite. The game would then be about Zero discovering what had actually happened during Shadows raid on the base where he went blow for blow with Shadow until he used chaos spear to put Zero out of commission, leaving him for dead. Eggman would find Zero and have the perfect test subject for the ruby experiments. Thus implementing that Infinites memories are all implanted by the doctor. Plot twist/device would be that Zero would still have his Phantom Ruby abilities because of the experiments, periodically losing control of his actions, lashing out at the avatar and experience hallucinations/visions of a warped version of Infinite assaulting him relentlessly with the Avatar having to intervene with their ruby. The game would then be about choosing an ending based on the avatars choices where either Zero falls back into Infinite or becomes a sort of Anti-hero with the avatar at his side. (Sorry for the long rant. Needed to get this out there.)
@InfiniteThePhantomJackal9 ай бұрын
Oh this is so good and I have GOT to draft up an AU based on this
@colekleijnen20609 ай бұрын
@@InfiniteThePhantomJackal Thanks. Couple of details I neglected to mention would be that Zero would also be playable and part of the 'different endings' would also require for Zero to find 'collectables' regarding his past and what led to the showdown with Shadow. A sort of 'breaking through the illusion.' Where if you find all the collectables you would then trigger a flashback level where you play out the raid from Zeros perspective and then have the fight with Shadow, shown to be more evenly matched. Zero gets the upper hand and knocks down Shadow. Turning to try and contact his squad, still somewhat delirious from the whole debacle, failing to realize Shadow is back up and hits him with a chaos spear in the back. Collapsing, fading out of consciousness, Shadow leaves without a word. Sometime later Eggman shows up retrieving him and cackles about how it's time to move to live subject testing. The mission then ends with flashing scenes of the experiments in a horror esc fashion.
@HuskyfrАй бұрын
Didn’t his ass go out of commission by an oversized brick in Death Battle?
@chaosshadic40Ай бұрын
Yeah, but that’s fanfiction for ya! Anything can happen.
@cbfranco3307Ай бұрын
And it was f*cking hilarious.
@wandering_nobodyАй бұрын
Death battle (a mass majority of the time) is about as accurate as a man with Parkinson's trying to piss into a thimble thirty yards away Into the wind.
@slimer44producciones3Ай бұрын
@@wandering_nobodybro, are you copypasting this message everytime someone brings up Death Battle? They are not right 100% and there is valid criticism that can be made about their content, but this just makes you sound like you are angry at then for making the character you like lost
@wandering_nobodyАй бұрын
@@slimer44producciones3 My apologies. I am not angry that Infinite died to a Thwomp, I'm just fed up with the hearing the same joke over and over again. If *you* can stand hearing "Infinite = Thwomp fodder" joke ad nauseum, then you are stronger than I, but I *can't.*
@ashemabahumat41739 ай бұрын
They told when they should've showed, no boss fight or viewpoint shift. Just shadow kicking some rando's ass. Like, I like Infinite but he was completely botched, even if I like what they were going for
@prettysunkАй бұрын
the dastardly king boo:
@HopefulSunsetMountain-wo7udАй бұрын
Had me sooooo dsmn mad like I know they wouldn't win but at least give him some more screen time
@MrDepravedАй бұрын
@@HopefulSunsetMountain-wo7udNah, its a canon event to the sonic fanbase now 😂
@bladethehedgehog2403Ай бұрын
Thwomp laughing in the corner
@danielkilworth10769 ай бұрын
He nearly dropped the god damn sun on mobius, i think ive got a pretty good idea of how strong he is
@TheSilverCanine_R3D-H8 ай бұрын
True, but the way he was showed in the game. It didn’t feel like much weight was placed
@danielkilworth10768 ай бұрын
@@TheSilverCanine_R3D-H true, the writing really fucked his character. He was supposed to be this big threat that finally gave Eggman the upper hand, but in the end he was just... Well, underwhelming. The concept was cool, the execution not so much
@joshuajarret6907Ай бұрын
Taking into account how the Phantom Ruby works, I do think he can scale close if not match threats like Bill Cipher. However, if a piece of rock with a face in it were to drop on him, it’s over
@TheGrater26 күн бұрын
The Thwomp *heavily* disagrees.
@GoofyGoldenRetriever1Ай бұрын
Thwomp victim
@AdidasDogeFrАй бұрын
Deathbattle has ensured Infinite will never be taken seriously again Its kind of sad to be honest, he has potential, he shown some of it, and now everybody will know him as "the guy who lost to a thwomp"
@Night-ec7ef22 күн бұрын
King boo, and thomp: Allow us to introduce ourselves.
@dremdram5496Ай бұрын
Thwomp moment
@fancykingkirbyАй бұрын
Counter argument: thwomp
@Super_shadow42Ай бұрын
Naaah💀
@KhainguyenDuong-y1bАй бұрын
I will never forgive death battle for that
@ShawnLatimer-uj8mlАй бұрын
HAH
@naufalrizqisyukria4406Ай бұрын
Sadly yeah infinite dies to thwomp.. womp womp
@Froob-rs1ooАй бұрын
URGH! 🪨😡
@SoloVisaАй бұрын
Death battle says otherwise
@MrDepravedАй бұрын
Thwomp says otherwise:URGH!
@coolperson59827 күн бұрын
i dunno man, death battles is slightly made by a third party and not canon.
@MrDepraved27 күн бұрын
@@coolperson598 what do you mean slightly? Its made by a bunch of people that has been versusing characters for YEARS! And duh its not cannon... Seriously...
@coolperson59827 күн бұрын
@@MrDepraved somewhat made by a bunch of people that have been versusing characters for years, who have their own opinions about how scenarios would happen
@agonyremnanttrap67899 ай бұрын
Infinite deserves better. This guy had every goated trait you could imagine, except for probably the most important aspect of a main character, motivation. My guy just got bullied once by Shadow and THAT was why he fully turned evil.
@shameyboismith3505Ай бұрын
lol he just got fraud checked by thwomp 😂
@MrDepravedАй бұрын
Thwomp:URGH!
@leeeroyjenkins555Ай бұрын
Ok but OURGH
@NoahThePokeGamerАй бұрын
“Infinite got one shot by a thwomp L” dude, Death Battle is known to be wildly inaccurate, and isn’t even canon to the Sonic timeline, let alone official.
@Aromatic_VRАй бұрын
URGGG
@juandiegocorrea3842Ай бұрын
well they let mario win against sonic before so we already knew why they let a character that at some point was faster than sonic get killed by a rock
@obithegamerАй бұрын
UURG
@NoahThePokeGamerАй бұрын
@@juandiegocorrea3842 something tells me they have favorites…
@NoahThePokeGamerАй бұрын
Also, @@obithegamer @Aromatic_VR both of you aren’t funny. You aren’t clever, you didn’t make anyone laugh, you’re just unfunny.
@christopherm4540Ай бұрын
LOST TO A THWOMP!!!
@JonahNeves-TostАй бұрын
The model on the thumbnail is FIRE! It’s like, if Infinite went through a huge power boost from the phantom ruby and it’s copy’s! Where is it from?
@Pokesonicfan99Ай бұрын
Warlock infinite from sonic forces speed battle
@socheata6439 ай бұрын
It just depends if he’s weak or not but still it makes sense.
@Chulosxd09Ай бұрын
Mephiles,shadow,thwomp,every sonic character: Are you sure about that? * Infinite Gets killed by a bunch of characters *
@MrDepravedАй бұрын
Thwomp:URGH!
@Kaijuenjoyer-nv7qnАй бұрын
*URRGGG* That was the last thing he heard.
@superplex253 ай бұрын
I've consistently seen Infinite as a villain with so much potential that was unfortunately wasted due to poor writing, and I'm glad this video exists. It separates the good qualities from the bad - which unfortunately many people don't do, instead opting to tie both together and hate on them both - and shows just why Infinite was such a good idea. I seriously hope he gets a second chance through another major role in the future because he didn't deserve the writing that the writers of the game gave him.
@mbcoolgamer11 күн бұрын
Wait till bro finds out about the thwomp
@maxkingjoe54609 күн бұрын
IDC i hate it because they don’t know everything about sonic. And no are even bad at transformers, bleach, dragon ball and more.
@davidherreragonzalez6145Ай бұрын
Thwomp:
@user-zs9ux1ru8uАй бұрын
Thwomp: Nah, I'd win.
@Stumpling16Ай бұрын
(me that just saw the new death battle animation) YEAH!?
@THawkMedia26 күн бұрын
Forces should have shown Shadow taking down Infinites squad, having Infinite step in and challenging shadow, then having Shadow absolutely body him. Cut out Infinites tandrum and write so Eggman essentially saved his life, giving Infinite a reaso to stay loyal to Eggman
@tenda999Ай бұрын
Thwonp: nah I’d win🗿 UURGH
@idosarts_and_krafts3 ай бұрын
The overclocked team: write that down , WRITE THAT DOWN!! And that is how the a great mod was made
@GnuGamePlusАй бұрын
Thwomp victim 😔
@SupremeSR3 ай бұрын
Really good analysis of Infinite! I’d personally would love to see him again under better writers. He has a lot of potential for a character.
@dingdawngАй бұрын
As much as I want infinite to be a more important and powerful character, I don't believe that taking anything from Forces is a good idea in terms of scaling. Do keep in mind, this is the same game that portrayed Tails as helpless against Chaos 0, when Tails had beaten Chaos 4 all on his own previously in canon. The Phantom Ruby is horrendously explained and used in the game, and is basically just a plot device that does whatever it needs to do to progress the story. And I do believe in the comics, Eggman meant that when in the right hands the Chaos Ruby can be more _useful_ than the Master Emerald because it's easier to control with the abilities and danger it can pose, while the Master Emerald is much more difficult to utilize and manage. It doesn't seem he meant that it's flat out stronger than the Master Emerald.
@salemoshatal26836 ай бұрын
The sonic forces was honestly amazing game. I just like creating my own unique character, but would love to see infinite and his teammate would come back into the game and hope you would be a good guy.
@TheSilverCanine_R3D-H8 ай бұрын
In regards to the video thumbnail image, that looks cool
@Werrr-27639 ай бұрын
This video made me REALLY wanna play the game is it a good idea
@InfiniteThePhantomJackal9 ай бұрын
I like the game. I think a key piece of whether you'll enjoy it or not depends on how much you like character customization and if the Avatar has enough for you. Cause for me, the Avatar is why I've replayed the game over eight times now, as despite the odd limitations here and there I love the system the game has and I've made so many Avatars with it
@twistedturnip84876 ай бұрын
The main issue I personally see with Infinite is an overall general issue with Forces as a whole, the lack of creativity, the game lacks any form of it and thus so too does Infinites usage of his powers, I mean for god sake he has the power to create illusions, ANY ILLUSIONS and because of the game he's in all we ever see him do with it is create cubes, giant goo versions of himself, flip gravity, clone himself, create weaker copies of people and the only 2 cool things "create" Null space and make a real soon to kill everyone sun, he never really explores his power or is ever really allowed too with everything I listed just being kind of mundane. He can do and create almost whatever he wants, He could make the environment attack you, fuck with reality, fuck with your head, become anyone, summon armies, manipulate you and your friends easily and do almost anything yet because forces is bankrupt of anything not a grey sludge it's just a basic barely used power. The best way I can put how I feel about it is with a question, Think about infinite's power and what he does in the game, then swap places with him and think, how would you use such overwhelming power? Edit: I do hope he or at least the ruby makes a return in the future and is given the creativity it deserves.
@justice87183 ай бұрын
They try to make an anime story with too many characters that makes Infinite feel slapped in like a bumper sticker.
@twistedturnip84873 ай бұрын
@@justice8718 I wouldn't really describe be forces as an "anime story" nor would I describe Infinite as "slapped in", just creatively unrealized
@justice87183 ай бұрын
@@twistedturnip8487 But infinite’s entire and not properly told story is slapped in. The forces comic, the shadow dlc, and the final judgement level.
@twistedturnip84873 ай бұрын
@@justice8718 in terms of actually adding his story to the game yes it felt slapped in but overall still creatively unrealized, they could have taken the story they had and taken it places they simply refused to do so, the character itself, as an in game character/entity/fight is just creatively unrealized however.
@partyrock41449 ай бұрын
0:20 what? Silver appears in nearly every sonic title to some extent and blaze isn’t from 06. What was this supposed to imply?