Why Inflatable Habitats Are The Key To A Mars Colony!

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@TheSpaceRaceYT
@TheSpaceRaceYT Жыл бұрын
We're testing out a new editing style for the videos today! Let us know what you think of the intro and if you would like to see more videos in this style. We appreciate your feedback as we try and make the most entertaining and informative videos we can for you.
@moew1316
@moew1316 Жыл бұрын
I love it!
@JewFroBro
@JewFroBro Жыл бұрын
I would like to see more videos in that style with higher production values.
@santiagovelezjaramillo38
@santiagovelezjaramillo38 Жыл бұрын
Pleeeeease
@busterhyman103
@busterhyman103 Жыл бұрын
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@antimonark7837
@antimonark7837 Жыл бұрын
We want a doc about bigelow.
@frankl8492
@frankl8492 Жыл бұрын
Just a heads up: At 9:10, you mention that there is an ~30 PSI difference between Sea Level and space, but that is not correct. At sea level the atmosphere is 14 PSIA (absolute), but in space its -14 PSIG (Gauge). These are different methods of measuring pressure, so you cant just add them together like that unfortunately. absolute pressure is pressure compared to a vacuum, while gauge pressure is compared to sea level. Therefore, a pressure sensor that reads in absolute would read sea level pressure as 14PSIA, while a pressure sensor that reads gauge pressure would show zero PSIG. Basically, this means there is even less of a pressure difference that these habitats need to worry about, merely 14 PSI rather than 28 PSI
@joeyjamison5772
@joeyjamison5772 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I noticed that too and was hoping someone would explain it further.
@WWeronko
@WWeronko Жыл бұрын
Yes, indeed.
@willymakeit5172
@willymakeit5172 Жыл бұрын
What the hell is minus pressure? No pressure is zero. I don’t get it.
@austinsiebert
@austinsiebert Жыл бұрын
Yeah essentially if earth is 1 bar or 14.xx psi, then space is 0 bar/0 psi. A guage that read 0 psi on earth would read -14 psi in space only because it's zero point is set at a baseline of normal atmospheric pressure at earth sea level. 30 psi would such ass
@david7384
@david7384 Жыл бұрын
LOL just goes to show you the actual knowledge of KZbin talking heads. 28 psi lmao. Capable literally of nothing except regurgitating
@nzrodders
@nzrodders Жыл бұрын
Or drill a tunnel, insert a pod at the entrance which contains an airlock and all the hardware. You then inflate/expand into the tunnel and move in. Provides all the protection you need plus you dont need heavy structure to support the habitat
@CountryLifestyle2023
@CountryLifestyle2023 Жыл бұрын
100% agree. I see underground as a more viable option
@kennyj43
@kennyj43 Жыл бұрын
@@CountryLifestyle2023 I suspect that at the end of the day there is going to be a combination of all of the above. There is going to be the need for overwatch/Gateway-type balloon-type facilities, while on the ground, underground habitations will be created for living, working, agriculture and the like. Not everyone will relish the prospect of living underground long-term, though, so there will also be above-ground facilities, as well, that will be created in various ways, including 3-D printing and, eventually, there will be domes over towns and cities.
@CountryLifestyle2023
@CountryLifestyle2023 Жыл бұрын
@Norman Munroe agreed! First gotta land, than everything else comes
@kineticstar
@kineticstar Жыл бұрын
Air locks won't work. You will need to use a shower lock to keep the dust and regulith from making it into the habitat and cause issues with the human body.
@MrMetalzeb
@MrMetalzeb Жыл бұрын
drill a tunnel on mars? do you have an idea of the size of a similar drill? a bit better a cave/tunnel where inflat bigger size of that staff. not a huge pressure, say 0.8 atm. some nuclear generator and as many moxie as possible to produce oxygen from Co2. One problem is to get hydrogen to make whater and the next is food. of course you plant vegetables but it's not easy. Mars regolite is almost poisoned, ostile to organic presence. must be treated for long. may be better to take some ground from the earth. Do you know making a 1000 m^3 of surface? plus you need an infrastructure to run a whater reciclyng system etc. Not one mission. it's years of work of in place workers. robots? let's see
@krunoslavregvar477
@krunoslavregvar477 3 ай бұрын
ex-Lava tubes with tunnels & very big caves! 👍🍀✌️🍀👍
@manofsan
@manofsan Жыл бұрын
What about if we look for caves on Mars which we can adapt to live in, during the early period? (the bootstrapping phase) Ideally, we could find a large cave to place our inflatable habitat inside of, for further protection from meteorites, etc. Later on, we can graduate to locally making more permanent facilities from concrete, metal, glass, etc.
@CountryLifestyle2023
@CountryLifestyle2023 Жыл бұрын
I like that idea. But think underground overall is a good idea..can create own ecosystems, light control, maybe fill with air
@jmar665
@jmar665 Жыл бұрын
How are you going to Mars when you can't get past the firmament?
@kennyj43
@kennyj43 Жыл бұрын
@@jmar665 Do you think that will be a perpetually unsolvable problem?
@digitalnomad9985
@digitalnomad9985 Жыл бұрын
@@jmar665 You don't know what a firmament is.
@CountryLifestyle2023
@CountryLifestyle2023 Жыл бұрын
@@jmar665 we have been to the moon buddy....
@LeoncioDaniels
@LeoncioDaniels 4 ай бұрын
Because who WE are, IT WILL HAPPEN!!!
@JohnDoe-fg9ng
@JohnDoe-fg9ng Жыл бұрын
TBH you need super thick walls/live underground to protect from radiation, particularly the galactic cosmetic rays. You need around ~5inches of al eq shielding to block a 1000MeV Fe Ion for example.
@MelindaGreen
@MelindaGreen Жыл бұрын
Correct. Roughly 1 meter of rock, or 8 meters of water I believe. Inflatable habitats won't do outside of low Earth orbit.
@gerardt3284
@gerardt3284 Жыл бұрын
They could pile martian sand on top to protect it. The habitat surface could have pockets/segments on top to contain the sand and stop it from sliding off
@GameC-o6w
@GameC-o6w 8 ай бұрын
yeah..."cosmetic" rays are the worst...
@SMunro
@SMunro 12 күн бұрын
Big magnets to attract iron from dust storms and 3D print buildings using lasers to print in metal.
@ericblanchard5873
@ericblanchard5873 Жыл бұрын
I'd definitely watch a Robert Bigelow video. Make one please!
@recycle320
@recycle320 Жыл бұрын
Heaven yeah
@whitman911
@whitman911 Жыл бұрын
Bump
@robertlaferla1878
@robertlaferla1878 Жыл бұрын
Do it
@jennyanydots2389
@jennyanydots2389 Жыл бұрын
Isn't Robert Bigelow on one of those "sex offender" lists though son?
@ericblanchard5873
@ericblanchard5873 Жыл бұрын
@jennyanydots2389 I wouldn't doubt it, rich people get away with most everything.
@AngelsMultiverse7777
@AngelsMultiverse7777 3 ай бұрын
Myself I think that building a city to start out it would be in a small trader. It’s deep enough to protect the buildings from hard winds temperatures and sandstorms myself. I think that would be the most smartest way to start out in order to keep everybody safe..
@williamseigler3408
@williamseigler3408 5 ай бұрын
At 13:20 you give one dimension in feet and another in meters. All these designs for a Mars base are lovely, but all of them ignore one thing. Rovers will need to be brought into a pressurized structure for maintenance and repairs. Anyone telling you that they won’t need maintenance has never had to keep rolling stock operational in the field.
@cornpowa
@cornpowa Жыл бұрын
The "above ground cave" you showed was part of a plan that included inflatable habitats. The "cave" was only intended to help shield the habitats and inhabitants from radiation and the weather. You even showed some of the inflatable habitats meant to go underneath it. Yeah, the 3D printing part will probably be harder than they make it out to be, but if the soil can be used how they imagine, even if it's toxic, it wouldn't matter for the "cave" plan you showed.
@robinstevenson6690
@robinstevenson6690 8 ай бұрын
A major problem with inflatable (and adequately pressurized) habitats is that there would have to be a guaranteed 0% failure rate. A rupture in the walls resulting in depressurization would kill everyone inside, instantly!
@PaulADAigle
@PaulADAigle Жыл бұрын
I always envisioned a 3D-printed enclosure with an inflatable filling the inside. The natural regolith would give better radioactivity resistance and a hard exterior against weather and such, then the inflatable would provide serious control of the internal atmosphere. The best of both worlds.
@MarkBesaans
@MarkBesaans Жыл бұрын
Smart idea
@owenlouisdavid
@owenlouisdavid 9 сағат бұрын
I think that's like the design that won the NASA award. But do you really need that 3D printed exterior. The inflatable itself provides a huge amount of radiation and micrometeorite shielding. Radiation levels on Mars are not super-extreme. They are about the same as in Ramsar in Iran - home to 35,000 basically healthy people. Let's not get hysterical!
@PaulADAigle
@PaulADAigle 7 сағат бұрын
@@owenlouisdavid The regolith may be rough, like the moon's. The 3D is the form the regolith would cover (Like a bowl covered in sand on a beach), to hold it in place for structure. The interior inflatable holds the breathable air we need. The combined laters would hold the heat inside. Once we had those 'homes' built, we would have the time and ability to develop many different materials from hands-on experiments with the regolith. Maybe glass or stronger building materials, something like that.
@owenlouisdavid
@owenlouisdavid 7 сағат бұрын
@@PaulADAigle I don't get why you need a 3D printed structure to protect the inflatable. You could just have a gazebo with a tray above filled with regolith and regolith piled up at the side of the inflatable. Anyway, I think a Sierra style inflatable would give full radiation protection. At the moment I am favouring steel cylinder habs.
@PaulADAigle
@PaulADAigle 6 сағат бұрын
@@owenlouisdavid You're missing the point of the 3D structure. It would be made of the regolith made by the printer, and the regolith covering it would be mostly by the natural blowing of it. The inflatable would be held in place by the structure. Protection from the elements and the radiation, yet still held in place by the structure. The only better method would be underground, but that would have to be found and explored.
@jorgesolis7891
@jorgesolis7891 3 ай бұрын
Go for it...,but go now, don't wait for the change of the century...
@summerlakephotog8239
@summerlakephotog8239 Жыл бұрын
This was really well done. The pacing and content of the B-roll was excellent. And you sold me. You solved a lot of problems.
@MarkBesaans
@MarkBesaans Жыл бұрын
Agree
@AngelsMultiverse7777
@AngelsMultiverse7777 3 ай бұрын
Another issue would have to worry about is all your equipment and your domes would have to be heavy enough. It’s dirty enough and strong enough to withstand super strong winds and sandstorms..
@owenlouisdavid
@owenlouisdavid 9 сағат бұрын
Wind force on Mars is tiny. A 100 MPH wind on Mars would be the equivalent of a 5MPH summer breeze on Earth. Don't be taken in by the movies! The Martian was not a documentary. :)
@blobifi
@blobifi Жыл бұрын
Love the new editing, but why are you mixing units of measurement? Like you said the jumbo life hab was 60 ft in length and 40-50 meters in diameter. It whould be nice if we could have both, not half and half.
@terrencesisson
@terrencesisson 7 ай бұрын
The best thing to build would be a pyramid as u can keep expanding it going down whilst also getting materials aswell
@stuartmanstible-cutlass8425
@stuartmanstible-cutlass8425 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I thought the graphics were really good and great content as always. I always love to see your new video. Sending my appreciation x
@SirScratchy_PBP
@SirScratchy_PBP 10 ай бұрын
I hope to see the day that the world stops fighting and works together to expand exponentially. Even if its the first steps.. i wanna see it begin
@BeastofBourdon
@BeastofBourdon Жыл бұрын
Another interesting concept I saw for mars habitats was cement mix embedded in the lining of the inflatable habitat, so you inflate it, then soak it down in water. Once it's hardened, you don't need to worry about it collapsing if pressure is lost.
@catprog
@catprog Жыл бұрын
How do you get the water though.
@formerfofcastudent7470
@formerfofcastudent7470 Жыл бұрын
@@catprog There is water underneath mars' surface.
@catprog
@catprog Жыл бұрын
@@JR-nv4td I am more talking about transporting the water.
@BeastofBourdon
@BeastofBourdon Жыл бұрын
@@catprog Well the same way you get the habitat at first, you bring it with you. There are ways to harvest water from mars, but you need the habitats before you could set up something like that.
@catprog
@catprog Жыл бұрын
@@BeastofBourdon Exactly taking water to build a strcture is a lot more mass.
@CocoLópez-k2r
@CocoLópez-k2r Жыл бұрын
Thanks.Always skipping this video. I thought it was boring and unrealistic. But I was wrong. You speak up with what was necessary, leaving out and behind unnecessary data. It was really very informative. However, I think the space conquering has become a race and it has make us slow down the process of exploring and learning about how space really works.
@randallc8675
@randallc8675 Жыл бұрын
I've been wondering what happened to Bigelow Space. Thanks. Glad the balloon concept really works.
@christianschulz1443
@christianschulz1443 Жыл бұрын
I always thought that you need to have a mix of both. 3D Printed outer hull for protection against radiation and an enflated habitat to live in.
@xergiok2322
@xergiok2322 Жыл бұрын
Why would the habitat need to be inflatable if you have a hull?
@Hedriks
@Hedriks Жыл бұрын
I love this channel. There's always something to watch and videos posted very regularly.
@SaiaArt
@SaiaArt Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure Mars has some wicked sandstorms that'll sandblast an inflatable bounce house into an outdoor living space.
@julianfp1952
@julianfp1952 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I've been wondering about just how big a LIFE module that took full advantage of the Starship payload capacity could get so that's pretty amazing. It's pretty much a Bigelow B2200 size. One of the things that Bigelow did before its demise was a press event where it had mocked-up the interior of a B2200 and there are videos on KZbin of people walking around inside that mock-up. It was mostly a big empty space rather than being split up into separate levels but the sense of scale was impressive. The jumbo LIFE module is exciting for orbital space stations but for a surface habitat I see one big issue that would need to be resolved. If it's carried to the surface of Mars by a Starship landing vertically then how do you get a hab that size down from the payload bay to the surface of Mars? You couldn't just inflate it in place because it would be incredibly top-heavy and at a 40-50 metre diameter wouldn't be at all stable and if the module is making use of the whole payload space then there wouldn't be space for a crane to lower it down. I'm sure some clever engineers can come up with a variety of clever solutions. Maybe land a crane in a separate Starship that once assembled on the ground could unload the hab module? That might actually be useful beyond the habs so that future cargo-only Starships wouldn't need to allocate any payload space and mass to a crane to unload their cargo because they would know that there was a crane on the surface that could do that unloading for them. Whatever the solution it's definitely an issue that would need to be addressed.
@danielsmyth189
@danielsmyth189 Жыл бұрын
was it not the intension to fill the inflatables with metallic foam, hence structurally self supporting.
@williamwalter4774
@williamwalter4774 Жыл бұрын
I'd honestly dig underground first cause anything bad and those tents are going to be your grave. They would however make good outpost that can be easily repaired if damaged and have the living quarters under that.
@jimday5954
@jimday5954 Жыл бұрын
Definitely would like to see more about Bigelow. He's a crazy character who owned Skinwalker Ranch and did lot's of other fringe science with his group. The inflatables are a great idea they saw through to maturation but then he shuttered the company right when the module went live on the ISS just seemed odd to me.
@kegyen
@kegyen Жыл бұрын
Think about this, he spent all of that time studying Skinwalker Ranch for the government, and now he chooses to focus on life after death. You’ve got to ask yourself what has he found out that leads him in that direction? It’s interesting that’s for sure.
@MarkBesaans
@MarkBesaans Жыл бұрын
I like the way you think
@spacesterzone
@spacesterzone Жыл бұрын
There were several misconceptions commonly published in that time period. Bigelow was not interested in running space hotels. He corrected reporters constantly but lazy writers chose to instead stick with their conclusion jumping that because he owned hotels on Earth he wanted to run space hotels. What he wanted to do was BUILD space HABITATS, buy launches, and sell the facilities to the operators. The target market was countries that wanted their own SCIENCE and manufacturing capability; Brazil, Canada, Japan, Oceania, African coalitions, and of course individual European countries. Multinational mega corps were also obvious potential customers but that made everyone nervous so he stopped talking about them as customers. The idea was to be ready when launch services finally became available. That didn't happen, he ran out of time and money. He always wore a lapel pin depicting an ET. In fact the corporate logo was an ET. He had a "profound encounter experience" in his youth. He was super secretive in all his activities.
@johnwang9914
@johnwang9914 Жыл бұрын
It looks like the rewards he's posting are for evidence for the survival of consciousness after death, likely due to his own health challenges and the death of his son but it looks like he's gearing for paranormal evidence. I believe he should focus on just recording journals and videos of his life electronically, have his brain sliced at 20 micron wafers and digitally photographed in high resolution after his death so that his neural network could be digitally preserved for research and leave a foundation to fund research into brain simulation on computers and to fund the server farms needed. With cryogenics, you have one chance of being revived and there will be many irreversible failed attempts to develop the knowledge needed to repair the damage from both the freezing and damage but a digital record of your neural synapses and neural network can be backed up and preserved forever allowing for multiple attempts of revival as you can always revert back to a basis. Of course just being able to simulate your neural networks does not mean the neural network would be as aware of your memories as you are so journals and videos and functional MRI scan records would be needed to try to bring the simulation of you as close to you as possible. It's basically the only real hard science approach that we currently have to try and have our consciousness survive after death. Note, if living only as a simulation in a virtual environment is not what you want, remember there is also the possibility of the simulation remotely operating an android avatar or of being bioprinted into a new biologic individual as science progresses, it's more about our digital records, backups and archives being the only way to preserve as much information as possible till science has progressed.
@jamesparker3189
@jamesparker3189 Жыл бұрын
We should send A-I to Mars to build underground shelters and all the infrastructure the colonists will need to survive. There also has to be space dock built in orbit around Mars, with craft designed to take colonists to the surface and back
@mikewallace8087
@mikewallace8087 Жыл бұрын
Mars average air temp. is Minus 80 deg. F . There are L.I. cold temp. batteries . Minus 80 deg. F. and much lower on Mars is a problem for anything electric powered on Mars. The explorer rovers on Mars were not of the high power usage of A.I. robots to be used on Mars . Mars will need nuclear powered electric generators on Mars for survival of Humans and A.I. robots.
@byebyekks
@byebyekks Жыл бұрын
great video! i’m extremely excited for a mars colony!
@NondescriptMammal
@NondescriptMammal 11 ай бұрын
Why? What is exciting about it?
@almac2598
@almac2598 Жыл бұрын
I saw 'The Martian'. The inflatable bit blew out.
@GenealogistBuchanan
@GenealogistBuchanan Жыл бұрын
I would be less worried about meteorites piercing the fabric than meteorites piercing the occupants. I would feel after underground. (Perhaps tunneled into Olympus Mons?) Underground also solves the radiation problem. Still, it is interesting to see other options.
@xergiok2322
@xergiok2322 Жыл бұрын
It wouldn't come to that. The inflatable habitats will be even safer from meteorites than the traditional ones. Besides, creating underground habitats would have too many unknown variables and requires too much engineering. Taking cost and mission complexity into account, I think that shipping the habitats whole cloth will be the only viable option.
@TheMightyCookieShow
@TheMightyCookieShow 10 ай бұрын
We had an Arctic blast hit us this past winter and the temperature got so ridiculously low I like -20 like they say it is on Mars in those caves and I'm thinking no I'm good I really don't want this to be the weather I live in at all times so y'all have fun on Mars I'll watch from here
@undertow2142
@undertow2142 Жыл бұрын
An inflatable habitat covered with regolith seems like the simplest approach. An automated rover can drive around the area and scrape the surface to accumulate regolith. Whether or not it’s sintered with a polymer and it can simply be piled or pushed on top of an inflatable module. This would proved radiation and micrometeorite protection.
@CountryLifestyle2023
@CountryLifestyle2023 Жыл бұрын
I think this is a great idea for an intial settlement. But long term, underground might be better. Even with the required work in it. Can create massive caverns and in time provide breathable air underground and use the soil dug for buildings. Maybe have a controlled day and night
@nukl3argam3r38
@nukl3argam3r38 Жыл бұрын
​@@CountryLifestyle2023But didn't he Say that Martian Regolith is Toxic to Humans?
@CountryLifestyle2023
@CountryLifestyle2023 Жыл бұрын
@@nukl3argam3r38 We don't know, we have never examined it. Plus you can always cover it, or something along those lines
@nukl3argam3r38
@nukl3argam3r38 Жыл бұрын
@@CountryLifestyle2023 You Mean with Thin, Sturdy, Strechy and Inflatable Baloons? Yeah I guess you Could do that. But why DO you think that Inflatable Habs in Caves are Better than Just Inflatable Habs?
@CountryLifestyle2023
@CountryLifestyle2023 Жыл бұрын
@@nukl3argam3r38 Nope that's not what I meant, but what ever works to reinforce the cave walls and protect vs toxins
@gerryetheridge7480
@gerryetheridge7480 Жыл бұрын
Lets begin with our own moon . It would make the perfect launch platform for a Mars mission .
@richdobbs6595
@richdobbs6595 Жыл бұрын
Luna only makes sense if you can get reaction mass there. Mine water at the South Pole, and then use a rail gun to get it into lunar orbit.
@paulperano9236
@paulperano9236 Жыл бұрын
The 3D printing will still be very important. Sure the inflatable habitations is practical to start with. However for bulk storage for vehicles and other large equipment, 3D printed buildings should be good for protection from dust storms, etc. Infrastructure will needs to be built - 3D print it. Later a combination of printed walls, with inflated inners could be a good option more long term pressurized buildings. High wall to protect the settlement from the large spider-like bug attacks - 3D print it.
@JasperH5150
@JasperH5150 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for not playing dramatic obnoxious loud music in your videos... We can actually understand your dialogue... Thank you! 😄
@kaseyboles30
@kaseyboles30 Жыл бұрын
How about all three. Most of the habitat underground. Above ground bits have 3d printed shells. Both with inflated interiors.
@jennyanydots2389
@jennyanydots2389 Жыл бұрын
You can live off my fecal matter produced from eating nothing but blueberries and filet mignon. It'll be a mess but also nutritious for you and on mars... food is probably hard to come by so you should take what you can get son.
@anthonygaston6752
@anthonygaston6752 11 ай бұрын
Best location for a habitat on mars
@leighgray8537
@leighgray8537 Жыл бұрын
This could also be a short term solutions to the housing crisis & for the homeless.
@DeanRogerRay
@DeanRogerRay Жыл бұрын
2/ Your idea involves creating a sort of 'garage' for Martian suits, with an internal access point to the outside, which could be an effective way to manage contamination risks. This concept could work as follows: - **Garage Structure**: A dedicated space, like a garage, attached to the habitat but separate from the main living areas. This garage would be where astronauts exit and enter their suits directly. - **Direct Access to Suits**: The suits would be accessible from inside the habitat through an airlock system, allowing astronauts to enter the suits without exposing the habitat's interior to the Martian environment. - **Contamination Control**: This garage space would have its own contamination control systems, like air filters and vacuums, to minimize the amount of Martian dust brought into the habitat. - **Maintenance and Suit Prep Area**: The garage could also serve as a maintenance and preparation area for the suits, equipped with necessary tools and equipment. This approach would enhance safety and efficiency, reducing the risk of contamination significantly by keeping the Martian environment contained within a controlled, separate area.
@besserwisser9799
@besserwisser9799 Жыл бұрын
love your videos like usual but the switching between metric and imperial is a little bit confusing for me at times, aside from that very informative and entertaining video buddy appreciate it
@garsonprice3441
@garsonprice3441 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. One suggestion- show one on screen and the other in audio.
@malbers35
@malbers35 Жыл бұрын
I agree, metric sucks.
@MarkBesaans
@MarkBesaans Жыл бұрын
1 meter = 3 feet
@dinger40
@dinger40 Жыл бұрын
Why mix metric and imperial? Either use one or both. 60' length x 42m dia (60'x 137' or 18m x 42m)
@macbuff81
@macbuff81 Жыл бұрын
It might help to use bar instead of PSI with 1 bar being the pressure on Earth at sea level. One bar equates to about 15 PSI. This is a science channel after all
@WatchfulHunter
@WatchfulHunter Жыл бұрын
Lots of high winds and flying dust and rocks during storms on Mars. Angle the walls to deflect rocks and wind up. Underground bunkers would be smart for emergencies and for supply storage. Machine O2 and h2o generation is a must.
@Jack0trades
@Jack0trades Жыл бұрын
The Martian was awesome. Both the book and the movie. But with the low atmospheric density at the nominal surface of Mars, the most fierce winds would have trouble making a wind sock move. And yeah - plan to make O2, and methane from the trace H20 and plentiful CO2 in the atmosphere.
@dannypope1860
@dannypope1860 Жыл бұрын
Just find the lava tubes… you don’t need to make a cave when there are already caves…
@AlikVolkov
@AlikVolkov Жыл бұрын
Would totally watch a Robert Bigelow video!
@thomashiggins9320
@thomashiggins9320 Жыл бұрын
For planetary habitats, it seems like the best thing to do is *both* . Use 3D printing to build a shell designed to hold the inflatable habitat inside. They were already talking about putting an internal bulkhead or barrier between the living space and the 3D printed shell, for exactly the same reasons discussed. Integrate the solutions.
@MarkBesaans
@MarkBesaans Жыл бұрын
Yup
@svfreakitiki
@svfreakitiki Жыл бұрын
The best thing to do is NEITHER!!! The notion of trusting your life to a 3D printed mud hut full of POROSITY is a great way to die. An anal sphincter can hold air in better than that. I don't know if you have ever owned a 3D printer, but there are 1001 things that constantly go wrong. All it takes is one rock to get past screen, one electrical malfunction, one failed part and that entire idea is down the toilet; because you have no one there to fix it. I don't feel that I have to go into great detail of how stupid a balloon in space is, but yes you will die when it pops. Titan Aerodynamic Engineering has developed the only solution to any kind of ground based habitat and they have in their R&D a far superior space station. THINK PEOPLE!
@owenlouisdavid
@owenlouisdavid 7 сағат бұрын
Why go to all the trouble of a 3D printed shell when you can just screw together a gazebo style tray of regolith over your hab and pile up some regolith at the sides. But why do we need all that anyway - as I understand it Sierra are building in the radiation and micrometeorite protection into their inflatables. Have I got that wrong?
@richdobbs6595
@richdobbs6595 Жыл бұрын
Recently, Sierra Space did a full scale burst test where they pressurized their test article to more than 70 PSI before it burst. This is higher than any rigid structure would be designed for. The test article also had rigid ports for installing windows or connecting different modules.
@NOM-X
@NOM-X Жыл бұрын
I have been writing about this for a while. And if you have the balls to go to space (lucky balls), then you have the same proven type of tech that everyone was speculating about with the shuttle, and Dragon. The proof is in the PSI. I hope this concept succeeds on the Moon, and Mars. But my last dollar is on it will be 100% successful! Loved the episode, and keep'em coming. - NOM
@jennyanydots2389
@jennyanydots2389 Жыл бұрын
If your writing is anything like your commenting I wouldn't quit your day job boy.
@gorillagaming8722
@gorillagaming8722 8 ай бұрын
Build in the Valley of the mariner as well, good spot to set up a colony.
@keithscott1926
@keithscott1926 Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry to hear that the Bigelow industry collapsed. I wish somebody would turn around by the company. I know this won’t be the last aerospace company to collapse.
@NavyVet4955
@NavyVet4955 Жыл бұрын
Problem is you need a product that makes money while developing the future products. SpaceX exemplifies this with its space transportation side (Falcon 9) and future (Starship).
@swapshots4427
@swapshots4427 Жыл бұрын
Sierra has bought all Bigelows intellectual property and is carrying on his commitment. I was enthusiastic for his approach going way back. Very happy to see it continue. Also, Sierra's Tenacity Spaceplane will be a huge leap in space possibilities.
@axh2sn
@axh2sn Жыл бұрын
There is no negative pressure.
@solifugus
@solifugus Жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter what is in martian regolith if you are going to mix it with a polymer. Whatever it is will stick together. Also, inflatable space habitats have been under development of decades but not on Mars. In fact, I am only aware of one (Belgian) project working on that for Mars. The Starship will itself serve as a fine habitat. It won't fully black radiation but close enough, if you add the thin Martian atmosphere will reduces it a bit more. Bigelow space habitats are made for space--not Mars. The requirements are very different. Another quick and very inexpensive way of building a habitat on Mars would be rammed-Earth (or, rammed-martian-regolith). On Earth, this construction method uses a stabilizer that is typically 10% concrete mix. However on Mars, the water would be all the stabilizer you need. Luckily, Mars is flush with tons of water ice.
@orbitaljellyfish808
@orbitaljellyfish808 Жыл бұрын
Good luck, humans 🤙❤️🖖
@nickoutram6939
@nickoutram6939 Жыл бұрын
You could store the colonies water supply in the walls of the habitat, so using them as both storage container and radiation protection. In space the walls could grow to be quite thick (like a metre or more) thus offering a good degree of micro-meteorite protection to the crew inside. The space habitats could source their water from carbonaceous chondrite meteors, there would be no need to launch hundreds of tons of water from the planetary surfaces just harvest it from the rocks that litter the solar system...
@johnwang9914
@johnwang9914 Жыл бұрын
Frozen water as a building material and radiation shielding has been proposed in a NASA competition and was the winning tender but remember water ice sublimates in the low pressures of the Martian atmosphere which is why we only find Martian water underground and not on the surface. It isn't as simple as you're thinking. Keep in mind that hydrogen rich shielding material such as water are only considered good radiation shielding for their unit mass. If you are to use in-situ materials as radiation shielding, packed regolith (dirt) is still a much better radiation shield than water or water ice for a stationary structure. Now lining the interior walls of a lunar rover with bags of human excrement has been proposed for radiation shielding but again that's only because hydrogen rich compounds have good shielding to weight, not just better shielding over other materials. Having to launch water into space is what makes water a good radiation shielding material for a spaceship, for a stationary planetary structure, packed dirt or just being underground is still much better. Water is also now believed to be both plentiful and rather shallowly buried on Mars, there's no need to bring water from chondrite asteroids and as Mars has had volcanism as recently as two million years ago, water could be extracted from a Martian volcanoes more easily than bringing it from distant asteroids. Note that both water from asteroids and volcanoes are ammonia water mixtures and the ammonia is where Earth got it's nitrogen atmosphere from by photolysis of the ammonia by sunlight over millions of years, we can't quite wait for solar photolysis by the Sun but electrolysis via say an electric arc can be scaled up to extract nitrogen for our habitats but the ground water cycle of Mars has already lost it's ammonia to the atmosphere of which the hydrogen and nitrogen have already been dispersed by the solar winds and the lack of geomagnetic shielding against the solar wind. Besides, we still don't know if the Martian ground water couldn't be flowed to you through a well so strip mining may not be necessary, we do know that there are some Rick features that are the result of temporarily flowing water so Martian ground water can be a lot easier than you are suggesting and really, gathering water from a lot of disparate and widely spread out asteroids and bringing them safely to the surface of Mars is also no easy task.
@irrefudiate
@irrefudiate Жыл бұрын
I had read that the woven polymer was as effective at blocking radiation as typical spacecraft material. The greatest advantage is its compacted volume on lift-off compared to the huge gain in living area upon deployment. If the Moon mission is successful, it could be a testing ground for this system.
@shawnjohnson9763
@shawnjohnson9763 Жыл бұрын
I think inflatable habs initially, and then using 3D printing once a base is established makes the most sense.
@BuckPalanger
@BuckPalanger Жыл бұрын
An inflatable habitat is a temporary solution, not long term. Even using Kevlar as an outer layer the inflatable isn't going to last for more then 2 years being hit by 200 mph sand storms.
@Kingpizza21
@Kingpizza21 Жыл бұрын
I’ll let other people go to mars for me
@johnericcardonaesquea8583
@johnericcardonaesquea8583 Жыл бұрын
Very dumb
@gregorybyrne2453
@gregorybyrne2453 Жыл бұрын
The nouveau Nephlilim pharisee Pharoahs aren't going to mars. They are getting off the planet before eclipsing the nucleus of our Sun's Oort cloud magnetosphere for the next millennium RESETS the planet as in the he days of Noah.
@JavaRambo
@JavaRambo Жыл бұрын
😂 Me too.
@nickcollins1528
@nickcollins1528 Жыл бұрын
Underground tunnels and inflatables for certain top side viewing decks
@haroldlamble5163
@haroldlamble5163 Жыл бұрын
What would keep a inflatable habitat from blowing around like a big beach ball in the high martian wind storm. Or cut to shreds in those high wind and bits of rock . No to mention micro meteors.
@rais1953
@rais1953 10 ай бұрын
Air pressure on Mars is so low that typhoon speed winds feel like just a gentle breeze. That's why rovers can trundle around for years powered just by flimsy solar panels.
@anjou6497
@anjou6497 3 ай бұрын
I totally agree with you. I guess they would need to be anchored firmly underground. Drilling down through rock; however, the attachment to the actual bubble is the problem. How d'you stop it tearing, as you say ??.🧐☕
@phil20_20
@phil20_20 Жыл бұрын
Before Bigelow, there was me. I designed inflatable space habitats in college AutoCAD, c1997. Before me, there was NASA and their precursor in the '50s. 😂😂 You can always 3D print a structure around the inflatables later.
@RogerM88
@RogerM88 Жыл бұрын
Quick answer...no they are not! Cosmic radiation, micrometeorites, dust, as inside pressure, are some of the issues. The best and safer way to have a base to Humans in Mars, it's underground bunkers.
@paintedpony2935
@paintedpony2935 Жыл бұрын
I.e. The Boring Company.
@stackula99
@stackula99 Жыл бұрын
Bunkers? How do you figure on pressurizing a bunker?
@yarissathomas1816
@yarissathomas1816 Жыл бұрын
Did you even listen to the whole video? Or watch it at all?
@IvanPlayStation4LiFe
@IvanPlayStation4LiFe Жыл бұрын
Like you will know😂😂😂
@johnwang9914
@johnwang9914 Жыл бұрын
Presumably, the inflatable structures would be buried by packed regolith to provide the micro-meteorite and radiation shielding preferably by tele-operated drone bulldozers before any occupant arrives. About two to three feet of packed regolith should reduce radiation by a factor of a thousand though it would take 40 feet to provide the same shielding as Earth's atmosphere. Remember the first habitats are about building them remotely before occupants arrive and need to be safely shielded. Later, more complex and larger habitats are possible as the work force would have a safe shielded refuge when needed. The inflatable structures are just as a form and a seal against the toxic chemicals and perhaps biology of the in-situ materials which would likely be regolith but could also be plastics as carbon monoxide could be processed from the atmosphere and hydrogen could be processed from the water we've found in the ground near the surface and a mixture of carbon monoxide and hydrogen gas can synthesize any linear hydrocarbon in Fischer tropsch synthesis (which is how we make plastic grocery bags, milk and soda bottles). Indeed, I would expect that eventually the structures would be regolith binded by synthetic plastics as such could be extruded out in a 3d printing process but a plastic internal liner exported from Earth would still be needed to ensure a safe shield from the chemicals in the regolith and any indigenous biology that we do not know of. However, the first habitats would likely just be buried by bull dozed regolith that's been packed down (perhaps with a plastic outer liner or binder to prevent erosion by winds). We even create concrete dome structures on Earth by inflating a structure and spraying it with concrete. The inflatable habitats on Mars would be similar, it wouldn't just be the inflatable structures by themselves. Even if we were to build underground habitats as you propose, which would likely require workers to do so, we would have to line the interior surfaces to hold the pressures and prevent intrusion by harmful chemicals. Remember that Biosphere 2's initial problems were partially traced to the exposed concrete reacting with the atmosphere in the habitat. Even the underground facilities you are proposing would likely require an Earth exported inflatable structure to line the habitat at least till infrastructure is established on Mars to form a safe sealing barrier.
@ShadowPuppet3001
@ShadowPuppet3001 Жыл бұрын
great video, sure sign me up I want to go to mars 😊🎉🎉❤❤
@GoDodgers1
@GoDodgers1 Жыл бұрын
The radiation environment would now allow this BS.
@tomverdikt7574
@tomverdikt7574 10 ай бұрын
Pretty sure the option that makes most sense is to use the starships. There will be dozens just sitting there from delivering cargo before we arrive. Link them all together.
@LindenAstle
@LindenAstle Жыл бұрын
These inflatable habitats are great idea for structures to live in on Mars or in Space !
@davebooth5608
@davebooth5608 Жыл бұрын
No windows? Those probably comprise the integrity? Intro was great! Like it better for sure! Thanks
@jackhemphill7257
@jackhemphill7257 Жыл бұрын
Build some test habitats out by death valley, have people live in them like on mars, growing food, recycling, living on vary little resupplys, after 2 years, we can get an idea of how it's going to work out..
@tatata1543
@tatata1543 Жыл бұрын
They tried that, it was called biosphere2. It didn’t go well.
@gerryboudreaultboudreault2608
@gerryboudreaultboudreault2608 9 ай бұрын
A balloon habitat on Mars is no protection against radiation. Better to go underground.
@powelllucas4724
@powelllucas4724 Жыл бұрын
Inflatable habitats are definitely the way to go.
@RooTee_Travels
@RooTee_Travels Жыл бұрын
I was going to comment on the Error about the pressure differential between standard atmospheric pressure (1 bar) and the vacuum of space until i noticed that is was already covered by a very nicely written comment!!!..
@jesjes-hr3di
@jesjes-hr3di 5 ай бұрын
i already live on mars, im baking potatoes as i type, you are all welcome!
@davidrpayton
@davidrpayton 6 ай бұрын
Inflatable is 100% the way to go.. it's the easiest way to get the most room, and give a base for building permanent structures
@Moonfart
@Moonfart Жыл бұрын
This guy does good voice overs.
@anthonyfrias5533
@anthonyfrias5533 Жыл бұрын
Watching your videos makes me glad people are interested in space travel again.
@331SVTCobra
@331SVTCobra Жыл бұрын
They didn't talk about removing heat from the module... there were no radiators like the ISS has. Just saying. Glad they're getting this tech developed. I remember in the early 90s, I hadn't heard about inflatables and thought I had originated the concept. I presented it to my buddy, who was a bigshot, and he just said "yes, inflatables are being developed already". 30 years of development means this tech is probably pretty mature.
@MikeBurns-bi5xj
@MikeBurns-bi5xj Жыл бұрын
Very good presentation, and engineering
@ComputingComputationsCCT
@ComputingComputationsCCT 11 ай бұрын
Options in material to work with
@c0ldsh0w3r
@c0ldsh0w3r Жыл бұрын
Yo, the editing on this video is fuckin ace.
@arthurwagar88
@arthurwagar88 Жыл бұрын
That was one of the best presentations I've seen. Totally agree that inflatables are the way to go. Going to subscribe. Thanks. Interesting comments.
@MarcusRobertoSouza
@MarcusRobertoSouza 20 күн бұрын
🎉🎉😊😊foi macho , i am astrology from country brasil🎉🎉😊😊❤❤
@owenlouisdavid
@owenlouisdavid 9 сағат бұрын
Macho's a good word in Brazil? Lol
@EricPham-gr8pg
@EricPham-gr8pg Жыл бұрын
2 ways to move your center gravity : 1 is vortex right hand rule 2 use pressure and vacuum to change center if gravity then universe attraction follow our center if gravity and attraction increase if closer or decrease if further
@prilep5
@prilep5 Жыл бұрын
Perfect for Lunar orbit space station
@AngelsMultiverse7777
@AngelsMultiverse7777 3 ай бұрын
The problem with inflatable domes for habitats is a very risky means of life support because they’re in highly known to tear rip puncture, etc. so you would have to come up with the material that’s much more stronger and reliable so it would be tear proof and puncture proof, it will also have to be well insulated Because of the temperatures on Mars.
@jroar123
@jroar123 Жыл бұрын
Bigallow put of North Las Vegas has a space station already in orbit.
@dannypope1860
@dannypope1860 Жыл бұрын
Bigelow is where science, technology, and transparency goes to die. He is a SNAKE!
@johnstewart579
@johnstewart579 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thank you for examining this very important topic. Mars habitats aren't being covered thoroughly on other channels
@Big.Ron1
@Big.Ron1 Жыл бұрын
I'll go to Mars. No problem. Light the candle, lets roll!
@filmmassa
@filmmassa Жыл бұрын
Good watch 🤔 😎
@dougfleming9014
@dougfleming9014 9 ай бұрын
They could take expanding foam chemicals to fill inside the shell so it doesn’t collapse or at least fill ribs with it.
@dougfleming9014
@dougfleming9014 9 ай бұрын
Could also erect some snow fences type structures around it so wind blown particles are deposited around and over the dome. Let the wind do the work for you lol.
@evantspurrell
@evantspurrell 9 ай бұрын
we should definitely deploy inflatable habitats first. i would like to see them combined with composites. 3d printing has its place as well but after their are people there to keep everything running
@baldassarealessi1007
@baldassarealessi1007 8 ай бұрын
Thank you video brilliant compliment
@gerryboudreaultboudreault2608
@gerryboudreaultboudreault2608 9 ай бұрын
Mr Bigelow should have improved his habitats since then; Perhaps he could have constructed a revolving module for centrifugal gravity, which the ISS never had (which would also be better for plant growth etc). Both would be essential for manned Mars missions.
@air-drive
@air-drive Жыл бұрын
A tent!
@manuwilson4695
@manuwilson4695 Жыл бұрын
I've worked with Vectran in electrical cable manufacturing. It is extremely strong! However in this application the question is how radiation shielding will be achieved. 🤷‍♂
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