Why is Billie Eilish Dressing Like a Black Man in 2006?

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Mayowa's World

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@hrhsophiathefirst4060
@hrhsophiathefirst4060 5 ай бұрын
I saw a saying at the African American Museum in D.C. - "Black until proven profitable."
@percolettivercetti3910
@percolettivercetti3910 5 ай бұрын
Now this the truest thing I heard all day smh
@Charlate
@Charlate 5 ай бұрын
That museum is soooo good. I always find something amazing every time I go.
@jailynjackson7867
@jailynjackson7867 5 ай бұрын
I need to go to that
@citizencoy4393
@citizencoy4393 5 ай бұрын
!!!
@JerzCe73
@JerzCe73 5 ай бұрын
Wow, ain't that the truth!
@hoodhippie7117
@hoodhippie7117 5 ай бұрын
OH YOU KNOW WHY . they take our scraps and people call it iconic once we’ve moved on
@mayowasworld
@mayowasworld 5 ай бұрын
exactly
@BeautifulEarthJa
@BeautifulEarthJa 5 ай бұрын
once we've moved on! it's always so funny to me
@madeleineclark283
@madeleineclark283 5 ай бұрын
No one thinks she's iconic though thankfully. I hope. I thought??
@iris_nazarena_4882
@iris_nazarena_4882 5 ай бұрын
@@madeleineclark283 It would be a retro/throwback look to most of her fans, so they probably find it "iconic."
@RedQueen0fHearts
@RedQueen0fHearts 5 ай бұрын
​@iris_nazarena_4882 Ture to that I saw a TikTok Where They where praising her for it.
@loveinlilac
@loveinlilac 5 ай бұрын
Billie been biting black styles since her pop star inception. She rocked the long "ghetto" nails at the Grammys. There's a clip of her using AAVE and her brother chiming in like, "Why are you talking like that?" Even recently, she was rocking this new Soulja Boy look while bumping Not Like Us with all her white friends. It's so goofy considering she tries to champion herself as someone so socially aware.
@mayowasworld
@mayowasworld 5 ай бұрын
I even forgot the clip where he brother said that lol its a mess when he also knows that's not their culture
@JustMeandGod_
@JustMeandGod_ 5 ай бұрын
@incognita626so yall mad because she bumping what everyone else bumping at this time !😂😂 smh
@Melinanextdoor
@Melinanextdoor 5 ай бұрын
The typical rich white girl who imitate black manners
@myishenhaines1706
@myishenhaines1706 5 ай бұрын
Hey, drake reached out to her when she was underage. I think her blasting “not like us” makes a whole lot of sense.
@LaurenOliviArt
@LaurenOliviArt 5 ай бұрын
Is that you singing in your intro?? ❤
@ItsShayyy
@ItsShayyy 5 ай бұрын
They want our hairstyles, our fashion, our music but not our blues.
@ohthehorror5
@ohthehorror5 5 ай бұрын
Paul Mooney said it!
@RamboQuellz
@RamboQuellz 5 ай бұрын
This.
@EzraSprouts
@EzraSprouts 5 ай бұрын
Everything but the burden
@ReviewwattpadbokLook
@ReviewwattpadbokLook 5 ай бұрын
And money
@sabrinarodrigues629
@sabrinarodrigues629 5 ай бұрын
Ohh we are victims ohhh cry...
@CloudyDea-cz3qq
@CloudyDea-cz3qq 5 ай бұрын
Then they will act like she invented that style…
@maninedoow5895
@maninedoow5895 5 ай бұрын
WHO IS THEY!?
@batmanlikespizza2541
@batmanlikespizza2541 3 ай бұрын
You already know who “they” are.
@dre_withwithout
@dre_withwithout 5 ай бұрын
Cos-playing us gets them recognition and us ridiculed.
@Noexela
@Noexela 5 ай бұрын
Exactly, it’s not trending until they get their hands on it.
@HeyHeyNingenSucker
@HeyHeyNingenSucker 5 ай бұрын
For real, It becomes high fashion conceptual art in their bodies.🙄
@Melinanextdoor
@Melinanextdoor 5 ай бұрын
Like these Korean idols 💀
@Skelekitten_
@Skelekitten_ 5 ай бұрын
CLOCK IT!!
@Sarah_321
@Sarah_321 5 ай бұрын
Frrr they be so racist and discriminatory but they cant let it goo​@MelinaeslhyDiomande
@erinniccoinn1gh
@erinniccoinn1gh 5 ай бұрын
the title was too accurate 💀 she used to credit missy elliott for inspiring her dress sense, but that was years ago, something has gone off the rails. now she’s fully become unlicensed uncredited 2006 soulja boy and i can’t unsee it
@ProfNDKai
@ProfNDKai 5 ай бұрын
& lil bow wow too smh
@knitsnknacks
@knitsnknacks 5 ай бұрын
Solider guy
@carmen_citykitty
@carmen_citykitty 5 ай бұрын
Ty for saying being gay doesn’t excuse you from appropriation. They will preach equality but flip when black people tell you to do the bare minimum and not appropriate their culture …
@Twink6629-lg3te
@Twink6629-lg3te 5 ай бұрын
Where do the lines go between appropriation and appreciation cuz I see comments dragging Billie just for listening to the music and some people sound hella bitter in a peddy way and not constructive way.
@LowSlungBadBitch
@LowSlungBadBitch 5 ай бұрын
@@Twink6629-lg3te petty* 🩷
@ajewishchristianmuslim
@ajewishchristianmuslim 5 ай бұрын
Ive experienced some of the most attrocious sexism from gay men specifically. Not the ones who are my personal friends. They might be gay but theyre still men. Not ALL obviously but mysoginy isnt magically erased just because youre gay.
@maninedoow5895
@maninedoow5895 5 ай бұрын
Sorry, but you’re not even black.
@senoracheapee1864
@senoracheapee1864 5 ай бұрын
Girl, when they turn 26 they learn that things are much harder when you are black adjacent, and so they fall into line with the mindset of their parents
@totsterrafirm
@totsterrafirm 5 ай бұрын
THIS😂
@chipotlelover555
@chipotlelover555 5 ай бұрын
i was just about to say usually by 27 they revert back
@sharmindecruz9757
@sharmindecruz9757 5 ай бұрын
Yep, chet hanks enter the chat.😂😅​@@chipotlelover555
@lyximichelle
@lyximichelle 5 ай бұрын
Lmfao the title and thumbnail took me out you hear me?? 😂
@MiggieJean
@MiggieJean 5 ай бұрын
I heard it in Mayowa’s voice 😂😂😂
@Da1TruArtistPup
@Da1TruArtistPup 5 ай бұрын
😭😭
@niablee
@niablee 5 ай бұрын
I almost broke my shellac nail running to say the EXACT thing 😂
@mayowasworld
@mayowasworld 5 ай бұрын
SKSKSK!😊
@Hi_Tamera
@Hi_Tamera 5 ай бұрын
Same!😂
@peachesandpoets
@peachesandpoets 5 ай бұрын
Post Malone did the black fishing and then country. Miley, too
@Melinanextdoor
@Melinanextdoor 5 ай бұрын
Justin Bieber and Justin Timberlake too ppl was like "lightskin Era"
@cmg25
@cmg25 5 ай бұрын
The suits call it “urban”
@OmniLoved
@OmniLoved 5 ай бұрын
Also ariana grande, now she’s asian fishing
@tashaenadekle
@tashaenadekle 5 ай бұрын
@@Melinanextdooryeah you can blame diddy and timberland for that.
@Melinanextdoor
@Melinanextdoor 5 ай бұрын
@@tashaenadekle 🎯🎯
@nicolesherman8974
@nicolesherman8974 5 ай бұрын
Because Black culture specifically African American culture reigns worldwide lmao and people that are NB want to bite off of us lol.
@JL-ow5hp
@JL-ow5hp 5 ай бұрын
Lmaoo so true, next she’s going to release a semi reggae song and start dressing and acting like Bob Marley 😂. YUH DONE KNOW BOOYAKA BOOYAKA
@lyximichelle
@lyximichelle 5 ай бұрын
@@nicolesherman8974 Ive been living in japan for about 3 years and the amount of influence i see that we have HERE, it just goes to show
@JJ.Corleone_
@JJ.Corleone_ 5 ай бұрын
I'm a Congolese South African and I totally agree with you!
@mayowasworld
@mayowasworld 5 ай бұрын
@@JL-ow5hp LOL PLS.
@Melinanextdoor
@Melinanextdoor 5 ай бұрын
​@@lyximichelleits awful smh
@BigdaddyBris
@BigdaddyBris 5 ай бұрын
Some of yall clicked on the video just to cape, wish I could say I’m surprised lol. You can admit she’s talented while also being realistic about her weird behavior.
@lucianp2616
@lucianp2616 5 ай бұрын
She's bisexual isn't she? Is that what you mean? And she's not the first woman to dress like that. Missy Elliot dressed like that and no one commented. Da Brat dressed like that and no one said anything. Also she's an artist. She's not trying to get a job at a corporate office. If you're an artist you can dress like you want. If you're corporate, you gotta wear a suit and tie.
@nokoshadung5257
@nokoshadung5257 5 ай бұрын
But she's white and didn't grow up around that culture. Come on now. Think before you type. She also changed her style up to be more "feminine," but because people didn't like that, she went harder on the early 2000's style. Catch up.
@lucianp2616
@lucianp2616 5 ай бұрын
@@nokoshadung5257 So what if she's white? I'm not racist. Black people wear suits and ties, and speak English. American culture is American culture. Urban culture is urban culture. This is like saying Beyonce can't do country music because she's black and country music is more fashionable for white people. You're creating false borders and false division. Has Billie Ellish ever did anything racist? No, never. So why should it matter if she's wearing urban fashion? If you want to challenge someone why don't you take it to Kid Rock? He piggy backed his career on rap music and then did a complete change up.
@lucianp2616
@lucianp2616 5 ай бұрын
@@nokoshadung5257 For the record, Billie Ellish grew up in LA. Los Angeles's Highland Park neighborhood. And she would have been influenced by urban fashion living in LA. She would have listened to Tupac almost for sure. So why do you make it seem like she grew up in the suburbs or rural or in Texas? She's from LA. She dresses urban. Some people today wear bell bottoms, the 70s fashion came back in style, and that's not cultural appropriation is it? I have no problem with what Billie Ellish is doing. She's not racist, has never been racist. If she were taking racist stances then I would see the issue, but she's not that person.
@nokoshadung5257
@nokoshadung5257 5 ай бұрын
@@lucianp2616 Just because you grew up in a certain geographical area, doesn't mean you grew up in the culture you're emulating. Even her brother questioned why she was talking in AAVE when they being interviewed because that's not how they grew up in in shape, way or form. She's shown time and time again through her changing her styles that she's not about that culture and she's just using black culture as an expiremental phase like Miley Cyrus did and y'all are letting these people get away with it without calling it out. This type of dressing has always been look down upon when it comes to black people and elated when white people start doing it, because of people like you defending this sh*t.
@FishareFriendsNotFood972
@FishareFriendsNotFood972 5 ай бұрын
Now I cannot unsee the Soulja Boy similarities! 🤯🤯
@mayowasworld
@mayowasworld 5 ай бұрын
she need to run him his check 😂
@NayTotalKnockout
@NayTotalKnockout 5 ай бұрын
Billie Ellish is a Studfisher and as a Stud I am so offended that she gets credited for dressing the way she does and I get called ghetto for it or even worse my life as a black masculine presenting woman gets threatened. When i was a kid they assumed i was in a gang because the way i dressed. just ASSUMED. Meanwhile i was playing overwatch at home. I was not in the streets at all.😭
@sunnymane
@sunnymane 5 ай бұрын
“Back in the day and Overwatch!!?” Has it been that long since 2016 😭😭😂
@yvonneewing6081
@yvonneewing6081 5 ай бұрын
She looks like my BROTHER when he was in middle school it pisses me offff
@LowSlungBadBitch
@LowSlungBadBitch 5 ай бұрын
She looks exactly like my dad.
@mayowasworld
@mayowasworld 5 ай бұрын
@@LowSlungBadBitch not the daddy !! 🤣
@DontTrustGladys
@DontTrustGladys 5 ай бұрын
THANK YOU! I'm just so done with that trash. Not gatekeeping. Just DONE.
@ANUOLUWAPOOLADOYE
@ANUOLUWAPOOLADOYE 5 ай бұрын
why does it piss u off its not your cloth she is wearing
@syds8752
@syds8752 5 ай бұрын
😂
@Noexela
@Noexela 5 ай бұрын
This is so annoying, she’s gonna get recognized as the pioneer of this style. They will forget all about Soulja boy and the whole snap era. This will be just like the Travis Kelece situation. Where they called the fade that black men have been getting since the early 1900s the “Travis Kelece fade.” They will credit this style as “Billie Ellish Core.”
@mayowasworld
@mayowasworld 5 ай бұрын
Oh goddddddd I can’t imagine Billie eilish coreeee. A mess
@Abundanc3beats
@Abundanc3beats 5 ай бұрын
They already are calling it that on Tiktok 😭
@Melinanextdoor
@Melinanextdoor 5 ай бұрын
​@@Abundanc3beatsFuck😭
@AngeBiampandou
@AngeBiampandou 5 ай бұрын
​@@Abundanc3beatsBan Tiktok already cuz what 😂
@cmg25
@cmg25 5 ай бұрын
Wearing hoods is the logical next step if you catch my dark humor drift.
@thecosmicblueautie
@thecosmicblueautie 5 ай бұрын
Yung Gravy JUST did that rap-to-Country pipeline thing this month! 😆
@mayowasworld
@mayowasworld 5 ай бұрын
who is young gravyyy im screaming!?
@Xergiokthegoblinqueen
@Xergiokthegoblinqueen 5 ай бұрын
No fucking way 😭😭😭
@ArtRebelsBloc
@ArtRebelsBloc 5 ай бұрын
@@Xergiokthegoblinqueen i agree SMFH
@aielianna
@aielianna 5 ай бұрын
That’s crazy, I never got into him cause I knew eventually he was gonna do it 😭
@brib6046
@brib6046 5 ай бұрын
@@mayowasworldI swear he is the secret son of the creator of Phenas and Ferb but not as charming.
@ragdoll774
@ragdoll774 5 ай бұрын
Yes clock it yt ppl use culture as skins in a game like it's literally like currency for them like spoils of war lol. She used to dress like this a few years ago but she stopped and now it's back again.
@hatercube4296
@hatercube4296 5 ай бұрын
“spoils of war” 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@maninedoow5895
@maninedoow5895 5 ай бұрын
*white
@herconsciousstyles
@herconsciousstyles 5 ай бұрын
you NEVER fucking miss Mayowa! 👏🏾
@habeashumor9814
@habeashumor9814 5 ай бұрын
On one hand I totally agree with you. On the other hand, do you really expect white people to come up with cool fashion trends independently? When has that ever happened?
@nthabisengmakola28
@nthabisengmakola28 5 ай бұрын
😂😂❤ When though?
@ohthehorror5
@ohthehorror5 5 ай бұрын
Not ever not once and it never will woof
@doublecrestedcormorant
@doublecrestedcormorant 5 ай бұрын
What? Grunge 90s style like Kurt cobain and other alternative icons is actually really cool :)
@screamingwhales4031
@screamingwhales4031 5 ай бұрын
grunge was partially founded and further developed by black people too-like the band bam bam led by a black woman. unfortunately history has forgotten a lot of the black and brown faces in the movement.
@TamTam9-15
@TamTam9-15 5 ай бұрын
@@screamingwhales4031just stop
@Its_Akeria
@Its_Akeria 5 ай бұрын
I’ve been saying- Before Billie, there was Da Brat! It’s so weird what she’s doing.
@maninedoow5895
@maninedoow5895 5 ай бұрын
That she’s doing what she wants!?
@JL-ow5hp
@JL-ow5hp 5 ай бұрын
What’s crazy is when she came out as queer I was begging and praying that she wouldn’t exactly what she’s doing. I was hoping she would remain the same or stay true to herself after coming out and she went and did the complete fcken opposite. I tried to giver her some grace and was like maybe her album will sound what she looks like. I’ve heard some of the songs…. The look doesn’t translate even in relation to her rollout.
@JL-ow5hp
@JL-ow5hp 5 ай бұрын
She singing all melodically on the album like she Beyoncé whole time looking like Jenn Carter…. Make it make sense
@mayowasworld
@mayowasworld 5 ай бұрын
lol!! that's what im thinking too, like the look and the sound dont match but I guess maybe that's why its considered "more edgy?"
@Kevin-rg3yc
@Kevin-rg3yc 5 ай бұрын
I love Billie music I think she and her brother are amazingly talented musicians but I’ve clocked her actions for years, she’s been appropriating from black American culture through her music and fashion for years while being very questionable on black issues, always been performative as hell and then the next minute said I problematic things. I remember when she and her brother lied about her being poor kids who made music in their basement that got discovers on the internet when in reality she and her brother are upper middle class and their parents were/are very well connected to the industry. She gets away with alot or problematic things mainly bc black folks are not her audiences, her white/non black fans are similar to her and she’s very well connected in the industry
@lunar3n
@lunar3n 5 ай бұрын
thissss like this is not new for her
@danic2514
@danic2514 5 ай бұрын
I think the thing that bothers me about it more is how much she’s hated on rap before…while also taking directly from black hip hop culture
@Kevin-rg3yc
@Kevin-rg3yc 5 ай бұрын
@@danic2514yup I remember those weird comments she said about rappers not too long ago being just so odd bc her music was so inspired by black music specifically trap music and jazz
@MossTunic
@MossTunic 5 ай бұрын
​@@Kevin-rg3yc yep, in 2020, she said rappers are "liars" where she is a "story teller" with her "alter egos" in her songs... 🙄 so pretentious & racist to flatten parts of rap like that, she clearly doesnt understand the history & culture. it's disrespectful to critique like this when she benefits so much from everything, it's not her place but she keeps getting to make millions anyways. 😮‍💨
@Kevin-rg3yc
@Kevin-rg3yc 5 ай бұрын
@@MossTunicright she had the nerve to lie about her whole upbringing to fit her image but wanna try and tell rappers they are liars? The nerves
@peachesandpoets
@peachesandpoets 5 ай бұрын
Bill Cosby used to be big in respectability politics. He used to call the black men who defend him thugs
@mayowasworld
@mayowasworld 5 ай бұрын
omggg it was so bad!!!
@user-wi6cz4hh5b
@user-wi6cz4hh5b 5 ай бұрын
​@@mayowasworld I think Amber Rose is now officially a white woman😂
@Melinanextdoor
@Melinanextdoor 5 ай бұрын
@@user-wi6cz4hh5b 😂😂
@tommyfebruary_666
@tommyfebruary_666 5 ай бұрын
billie is bi. but yeah, as a non-black fem lesbian i always find it weird when i see mascs on tiktok basically just have box braids + fade (YES that's actually a lesbian tiktoker i saw) and call it a day like there's literally so many other masculine styles they can try without profiting off other's cultures.
@rejavenated
@rejavenated 5 ай бұрын
She looks like Slim Shady now
@LowSlungBadBitch
@LowSlungBadBitch 5 ай бұрын
Yes Ive been thinking that for a while but it felt inappropriate to comment for this video lol. My dad from Detroit dressed exactly like this in the 2000s.
@mayowasworld
@mayowasworld 5 ай бұрын
That’s what I thought but then I remember slim shady was lookin like black men in 2004 so it’s like a cycle 😂
@rejavenated
@rejavenated 5 ай бұрын
@@mayowasworld lol for sure
@JustMeandGod_
@JustMeandGod_ 5 ай бұрын
@@mayowasworldclothes don’t make u black or white
@jaybarnes8634
@jaybarnes8634 5 ай бұрын
​@@mayowasworldslim shady gets a pass, he's uplifted and gave respect to black culture like no other artists has ever so much so that people still can't believe he's white and to me that's a compliment to our ethnicity as a whole. You can't listen to his music without associating it with us.
@Meadowsandmangoes
@Meadowsandmangoes 5 ай бұрын
TLC used to wear the baggy clothes too. Billie can wear clothes that hides her shape fine; the thing is that hat to the side etc… not necessary. I feel she’s gonna do the same thing others have done. They use black culture till they feel “mmmm this isn’t cool anymore let me be who I actually am.”
@ladypeace2863
@ladypeace2863 5 ай бұрын
Yes TLC , and Aaliyah they did it first.
@chavaliernsharps
@chavaliernsharps 5 ай бұрын
Machine Gun Kelly tried it in the beginning. Did the whole white rapper bit, even came for Eminem (also problematic) until he let the Eminem squabble go. He came back on the pop rock tip and been in that lane sense. Something sinister about non Black folks using Black American culture for a come up, come clout, for recognition, when -- as you rightfully said -- WE OURSELVES are denigrated for.
@SandraMills-p9j
@SandraMills-p9j 5 ай бұрын
As someone who dresses modestly and a trans black person. You can wear tons of styles without taking from black culture. Also, I hate that black trans people when they experiment with black fashion they are challenged or mocked by black people. But white people do it and suddenly it's okay. Could you by any chance do a topic on the demonizing on black religions and how that relates to anti-blackness within featurism, texturism, or lengthism. Because I noticed that orisha Oshun is usually never portrayed as a darkskin woman and if she is then she has long loose hair. Also when it comes to the orisha Eshu he is demonized a lot outside of worship because he is darkskin.
@mayowasworld
@mayowasworld 5 ай бұрын
ohgosh the colorism with orisha / ifa/ dieties spaces is so annoying!! along with the demonization. were erased out!
@SandraMills-p9j
@SandraMills-p9j 5 ай бұрын
@@mayowasworld I noticed every time femininity was associated with light skin or loose hair. And masculinity was associated with dark skin. For example the depiction of oya, oshun, and oba. People think they are connected to oshun just because they are light skin.
@carwash9333
@carwash9333 5 ай бұрын
That is so real about the response to trans blk people, especially mascs
@antoniacapellaborges6566
@antoniacapellaborges6566 5 ай бұрын
What??? Why are you lying??? Omg!!! I have seen a white representation of Yemoja (due to syncretism with the Virgin Mary) even of Oba but NEVER of Osun nor Oya. Long hair for Osun yes, since she spends most of her time within the rive Osun itsel, even 4C hair cannot defy gravity when wet… Even Obatala and Orunmila are shown as pale within the New World religions due to syncretism with Christianity 🤦🏾‍♀️ All those NWR are NOT the original Ifa go to Nigeria and actually speak to the actual people living around the Yorubaland how they represent the Orisha not Afro Brazilians or Cubans
@TeaWitcher
@TeaWitcher 5 ай бұрын
Yes to this!!! Would love Mayowas take
@tthewizard7667
@tthewizard7667 5 ай бұрын
It sort of reminds me of when someone said that when white ppl dance hip hop, they tend to dance it aggressively, and it feels like a microaggression, bc they perceive blackness as aggressive. Example --> Jojo Siwa.
@ProfNDKai
@ProfNDKai 5 ай бұрын
Omg stop you just gave me flashbacks of a south east Asian girl who was doing THEE MOST to make me "her black friend" 🙄😒 thankfully we had no classes together but we had the same going out / clubbing group ……. BRO the amount of times she got into a step up 2 dance battle in the middle of a circle often a random group of non black people would randomly find us in the club in "the hip hop room" and make her start feeling herself a little too much all getting into circles and trying to dance battle each other I had to just disappear in those moments or pretend I needed to take a quick seat because I WILL BE DAMNED if I’m expected to lend you my blackness to validate your foolishness and actually engage and start popping, locking and dropping like Chris brown like y’all are doing to music that’s barely appropriate & over AGGRESSIVELY dancing to the lyrics rather than the beat itself ……. PTSD 😂😂😂😂😂
@misbahailia3345
@misbahailia3345 Ай бұрын
Please stop being so arrogant. If she only wanted you as her “black friend”, she wouldn’t also be friends with other non black people as well. She’s just a normal girl, who finds your culture cool/inspirational. Please tell me where she’s appropriating your culture? Because I’m South Asian as well, and growing up I found your culture cool. Specifically you guys not excluding fat girls from your friendship group I’d see on TV. Also I noticed that you guys would use Indian and Middle Eastern music in your rap songs, and made it sound like something my parents wouldn’t listen too, but is still Asian/relatable to me. Am I also cringe, for appreciating how you guys accept different bodies like mine? Am I cringe how I appreciate how you use our South Asian music? Plus how some of you randomly say Aslamu Ailakum. Which made me relate to you even more, because white people wouldn’t say that on TV. You guys seem open minded to different cultures, and religious phrases which aern’t your own. As a UK born South Asian, am I wrong for admiring that? The only reason I’ve moved on from appreciating your culture, is most of you guys have suddenly turned your noses up to people appreciating your culture. I understand cultural appropriation, being cringe. But appreciation? Some of you think it’s the same thing 🤦🏻‍♀️.
@stacielle3627
@stacielle3627 4 күн бұрын
@@misbahailia3345 you could’ve just typed “Im a racist” and been done with it. 😅
@priestesstapes
@priestesstapes 5 ай бұрын
I can’t watch the video til later but LMFAO at the damn title
@mayowasworld
@mayowasworld 5 ай бұрын
let me know when u get back! LOL
@prettylady818
@prettylady818 5 ай бұрын
The title is crazy 😂😂😂I love this channel so much.
@yassercastillo2607
@yassercastillo2607 5 ай бұрын
She has been looking like that since she started , thats why ive never felt like listening to her music.
@aielianna
@aielianna 5 ай бұрын
this is my exact same sentiment but it has been unconscious until now. I love how my brain just blocks out bs
@ink_puke_
@ink_puke_ 5 ай бұрын
she was wearing baggy clothes to not get sexualised
@yassercastillo2607
@yassercastillo2607 5 ай бұрын
@@ink_puke_ is the styling tho, you can wear baggy clothes and not do all that. Her sound is very early 2000s R&B too, she got 4 major grammys for that.
@ink_puke_
@ink_puke_ 5 ай бұрын
@@yassercastillo2607 what's wrong with that? streetwear is pretty much all inspired by 2000s black culture and I don't see people saying that non black people shouldn't participate in it
@yassercastillo2607
@yassercastillo2607 5 ай бұрын
@@ink_puke_ YOU don't see it...
@lemoncholyme
@lemoncholyme 5 ай бұрын
Do YT people really find Billie Eilish's fashion to be stylish? I largely ignore it because its definitely not for me, but I love her music. I always thought people were tolerating her loooks for her music.
@loadishstone
@loadishstone 4 ай бұрын
I don’t know a single person who thinks she is pioneering anything here and she is constantly clowned on reddit. She is just a baby gay and many went through this phase. Anyone who thinks this style would give her clout is delusional. Its probably hurting her in actuality.
@minmeena
@minmeena 5 ай бұрын
She’s been dressing like a black guy from the early 2000s since she debuted and some black people did clock her on it but I think people moved on too quickly for my liking smh. Thanks for bringing this up again, a lot of white queer women do this as well
@rebekah6734
@rebekah6734 5 ай бұрын
She should call Kristen Stewart for tips
@rdvangogh
@rdvangogh 5 ай бұрын
As a 34 y/o racially ambiguous queer white woman I’m really thankful you’re speaking on this, and so much more in your content. I remember in a predominantly white high school I went to, kids would get sent home for dressing like this. They truly were saying “blackness” is unworthy. And I had no idea how much I benefit from racial ambiguity, so thank you for helping me grow into a more aware human being.
@saphmc
@saphmc 5 ай бұрын
‘People online have been saying that Billie Ellish is turning herself into a black man’ do not kill me today please 😂😂
@kobelambert8250
@kobelambert8250 5 ай бұрын
I understand everything you're saying, but honestly, in the end, it's just clothes? I see a young girl who likes the aesthetic, and it most of the time doesn't go any deeper than that. It's not her problem with how people interpret it, and she by no means needs to "pull from her roots" like, really? I honestly feel like I'm missing the hook here... I used to tune into your channel years ago back when i was still in school and was on your wavelength with most things, but maybe im just different now, I guess. Anyway It was wonderfully nostalgic seeing a video from you after so long, sending love.
@ohthehorror5
@ohthehorror5 5 ай бұрын
South of nowhere, sugar rush, lip service those lesbian shows would really do well for her too
@mayowasworld
@mayowasworld 5 ай бұрын
She need to get to her ROOTS.
@EzraSprouts
@EzraSprouts 5 ай бұрын
Ohh Lip Service is a deep cut, what an anaemically white show
@lesbiangoddess290
@lesbiangoddess290 5 ай бұрын
​@EzraSprouts I tried pirating the show. Not a DROP of melanin in that damn show. It does have veteran lesbian Heather peace in it though.
@MonieWatches
@MonieWatches 5 ай бұрын
Make up is giving as usual 😩 ❤
@mayowasworld
@mayowasworld 5 ай бұрын
thank you!!!
@starbean4ver
@starbean4ver 5 ай бұрын
unfortunately billy has been dressing like that since her career started. i think that’s what made her pop off the most the fact that she has this pretty face but dressed like a 2006 parody
@t.taylor1611
@t.taylor1611 5 ай бұрын
Makeup looks great!! Eyes!! Earrings. Everything. 😍
@mayowasworld
@mayowasworld 5 ай бұрын
thank you!!
@MangoMelly
@MangoMelly 5 ай бұрын
Not ‘Billie Eye-Lash’ (in the intro) 😂😂 Who else caught it?😅
@dre_withwithout
@dre_withwithout 5 ай бұрын
The amalgamation of culture never benefits us. But, it’s the new trend for them. Africans in this corporation called america is run off of our degradation. We to them are only labor… As far as entertainers: Justin Timberlake, Miley Cyrus, The kardashians As far as the media you have commercials saying: “It’s giving” 😂 I could go on but Afro-pessimism is very real.
@LawMakerBlu
@LawMakerBlu 5 ай бұрын
Forreal. It’s everywhere, and it’s draining and annoying
@lucianp2616
@lucianp2616 5 ай бұрын
Culture keeps evolving. You don't dress how you dressed in 2006. You dress how you dress now. If people copy how you dressed in 2006, you don't dress like that in 2026, so what difference does it make. Evolve.
@LawMakerBlu
@LawMakerBlu 5 ай бұрын
@@lucianp2616 tell that to the groups of ppl that constantly copy us as Black ppl. Maybe them coming up with their own stuff for once since you wanna say “culture is always evolving.” How about they evolve and come up with their own shit.
@_KayBee_
@_KayBee_ 5 ай бұрын
Mfs said she dresses like Big Pun and Julez Santana 😩
@BigdaddyBris
@BigdaddyBris 5 ай бұрын
LOOOLL 🤣🤣🤣
@AngeBiampandou
@AngeBiampandou 5 ай бұрын
It's very much Dipset coded
@_KayBee_
@_KayBee_ 5 ай бұрын
@@AngeBiampandou 😭😭😭
@prettylady818
@prettylady818 5 ай бұрын
Yes! 😂😂😂Definitely early 2000’s NYC hip hop era
@KayKayoni
@KayKayoni 5 ай бұрын
3:03 the way I choked on my water when you inserted Shane from the L word!!!😭💀💀
@mayowasworld
@mayowasworld 5 ай бұрын
The real ones know 😂
@KayKayoni
@KayKayoni 5 ай бұрын
@@mayowasworldits literally the fact that white lesbians & black lesbians typically have different beauty standards/aesthetics so… for her just to slide past the white lesbian beauty standards & never be seen with a black woman or even a black man is questionable. (I gotta add on to this..) I was just thinking about how there really isn’t a lesbian beauty standard outside of being masc or stud, so it kinda makes sense in why she wants to dress this way? Like she just might wanna be seen for her queerness & if she dosent dress masculine she won’t be recognized as queer because there is a big problem of lesbian invisibility in the community. Only the masculine women are easily recognized but the rest of us kinda blend in & people some times don’t even think we can be are because we’re not masculine or the stereotype? IDK I’m just trying to make sense of this 💀💀
@cherishoneal9108
@cherishoneal9108 5 ай бұрын
Shane had drip
@eternallyellese
@eternallyellese 5 ай бұрын
She once said fruitvale station was her favorite movie in an interview… that did it for me
@TeaWitcher
@TeaWitcher 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 wtf
@prettylady818
@prettylady818 5 ай бұрын
I watched that movie one time and that was enough for me.
@eternallyellese
@eternallyellese 5 ай бұрын
@@prettylady818 I can’t watch it at all! It’s too painful
@LaurenJewel
@LaurenJewel 5 ай бұрын
I can’t even the title is so right pls
@xandra_LK
@xandra_LK 5 ай бұрын
Billie Eilish gives Justin Timberlake back when he would change his accent and start talking about “fo shiz homie” every time he found himself within 10ft of a rapper😭.
@tymeburglar86
@tymeburglar86 5 ай бұрын
I agree with all your points, but just want to point out Billie was copying this black aesthetic back in 2018/19, then she started to tone it down, dress more conventionally and is now back to it. I saw a reel a few weeks back with a white gay man genuinely asking/pointing out why is it that when white people come out as homosexual they turn into a black person of the other gender and it perfectly summed it up, which is different from a pop culture come up off of black culture (ie: post malone, miley cyrus, justin bieber, etc) but can present the same.
@JubeiKibagamiFez
@JubeiKibagamiFez 5 ай бұрын
3:48 Da Brat to go even further back and Queen Latifah... QL didn't come out until way later, but we all sorta knew.
@nmart1n
@nmart1n 5 ай бұрын
She has dressed like this before. The blonde pictures you showed of her from ‘21 onwards that’s when she started to dress more feminine and then she seems to have gone back to this aesthetic.
@solarmoth4628
@solarmoth4628 5 ай бұрын
She was using a blaccent before too. If anything it strengthens Mayowa’s point about Billie taking whatever she wants from Black culture. Billie was wearing baggy clothes before that’s true. However, she wasn’t dressing in this 2000’s Southern rap style as much, there were more alternative, e-girl elements in her style. Mayowa’s other points about Billie being accepted for “studfishing” in a way that Black mascs who dressed this way never were still rings true regardless of how long Billie has been appropriating the aesthetic.
@sincerelykay342
@sincerelykay342 5 ай бұрын
@@solarmoth4628exactly and like someone pointed out in the comments, she had this whole weird hate for rappers and rap music but now she’s bumping to not like us. Like be so fr
@alfie6441
@alfie6441 5 ай бұрын
@@solarmoth4628 except she as there’s a picture of her meeting sza where someone comments “why tf are Tierra whack and sza hanging out with 2006 Soulja boy” the pic is from 2019
@lucianp2616
@lucianp2616 5 ай бұрын
@@solarmoth4628 It's not a blaccent. Black people don't have a unique accent in 2024. Maybe in 1974 when jive was a thing, but it's 2024 now. No one is talking black or talking white purposefully.
@MISSMADISONMEDIA
@MISSMADISONMEDIA 5 ай бұрын
She always dressed like this!
@taylork7530
@taylork7530 5 ай бұрын
I…thought that was obvious. For years now, even. People who slept through every one of their English classes kept calling it “appreciation” over appropriation.
@cmg25
@cmg25 5 ай бұрын
🎯
@cherishoneal9108
@cherishoneal9108 5 ай бұрын
Billie’s outfit look like the default “hip hop” outfit on 2000s teen shows.
@teeayteeayetc
@teeayteeayetc 5 ай бұрын
Someone plz PLZ just start live streaming Malibu’s Most Wanted bc it’s the reality we’re living in 😭
@naimamorgan6209
@naimamorgan6209 5 ай бұрын
Look at Arianna Grande now too. She is back to being yt and not racially ambiguous.
@inolofatsenglekaba5026
@inolofatsenglekaba5026 5 ай бұрын
"songs you might have heard in passing" i love that subtle shade
@melaninmonroeeee
@melaninmonroeeee 5 ай бұрын
The way I screamed at this title 🤣😭 lmaoooo
@scilines
@scilines 5 ай бұрын
Sometimes, ppl just like a style and don’t see it as that deep or even realize that they are dressing “like” anything. Ppl also don’t necessarily confine themselves to a demographic. I’m a black queer person and I was told I dress “like” a prep school boy. 💀 I just watched Gossip Girl and like the style of the boys. Nothing deeper.
@Isnt_She_Lovely4015
@Isnt_She_Lovely4015 5 ай бұрын
All I can do is roll my eyes lol. What happened to them dressing/looking like Sarah Gilbert… side note: that hair is steady flourishing and the eye makeup is lovely ❤❤
@mayowasworld
@mayowasworld 5 ай бұрын
right!! Sarah Gilbert or Ellen degenerous!? and thank you!!!
@bontlelethetsa
@bontlelethetsa 5 ай бұрын
She should be like MEGAN Rapinoe with short pink hair
@mayowasworld
@mayowasworld 5 ай бұрын
LMAOOO! She would eat that!!!
@QuirkyTJones
@QuirkyTJones 5 ай бұрын
I’m an 80s baby so I was a teenager-young adult during the 90s so I also am very aware of trends and aesthetics back then. And to top it all I live in metro Atlanta the birth place of a lot of iconic trends/dances/music and in the 90s the entire black diaspora was dressing like tomboys. Aaliyah, tlc, xscape(who u mentioned) and sooooo many more groups/acts had the tomboy aesthetic… male or female we all dressed in baggy clothes and that’s where the “tomboy” style flourished. Tommy Hilfiger def made a coin off of us. 😂😂😂 So you are spot on in this video but it’s hurtful to see the clear people get praised for stuff we did ages ago and were discriminated against for it. Now we can clearly see and it’s now validated that they were just jealous and mad bc they couldn’t be that creative and especially before us. And now they wanna try and sneak their way back into it and act like we forgot and were about to let them reclaim as their own…. But nope… they tried it…. But unsuccessful yet again lol 😂😂😂
@jalaaaah
@jalaaaah 5 ай бұрын
to be fair, she *has* said that missy elliott is a big fashion inspo for her
@nokoshadung5257
@nokoshadung5257 5 ай бұрын
Okay, how about when she changed up her style to be more "feminine," but when her fan base didn't like that, she went right back into black culture?
@jalaaaah
@jalaaaah 5 ай бұрын
@@nokoshadung5257 i think her fanbase felt she was “switching up” for embracing more of the feminine side of herself but even in her “happier than ever” era she still wore a lot of gender neutral clothing & never really strayed away from it, but now if you see images of her, she’s learning to do both. when you dress masculine a lot of the times it’s not really received well when you don’t. and that’s even in my personal experience.
@nokoshadung5257
@nokoshadung5257 5 ай бұрын
@@jalaaaah There are white masculine clothes she can try. Why go all the way to black culture hood looks when she never even grew up around the culture. She was Homeschooled for heaven's sake.
@Mona-dk5vk
@Mona-dk5vk 3 ай бұрын
Hey I totally get your point (as a black person myself) but there is just something that feels off about your video: We as black people dress like white people all the time. Why should there be a problem the other way around? I even think it's an important step away from all these stereotypes. Also Billie has always worn oversized and masculin fits. This whole topic is a big problem in todays society but the problem is racism and not people's styles.
@againstthegraingolf301
@againstthegraingolf301 2 ай бұрын
What exactly is dressing like white people?
@hitsugayatoshiro3331
@hitsugayatoshiro3331 Ай бұрын
@@againstthegraingolf301 Look at your profile picture
@leahshannon759
@leahshannon759 28 күн бұрын
LETS GOO thanks for making a video about this!!!
@EnesiM
@EnesiM 5 ай бұрын
this video title is what i think everytime i see a pic of her anywhere
@Ninatypes
@Ninatypes 5 ай бұрын
Let’s not forget her Vogue article! She criticised Rap and rappers for not being authentic compared to her and her music…
@Twink6629-lg3te
@Twink6629-lg3te 5 ай бұрын
I can’t say for certain but nothing about Billie Eilish strikes me as a country girl I don’t see her dropping a country album in the future
@makeitmakesense2616
@makeitmakesense2616 5 ай бұрын
3:01 you get on my nerves. I managed a Whyte woman salon in 2006 and the owners were Whyte lesbians and you're not wrong 😂😂😂
@mayowasworld
@mayowasworld 5 ай бұрын
I’m glad you remember 😂 cause they was more in their Ellen degenous bag back then!
@fearoffrying
@fearoffrying 5 ай бұрын
I haven’t even watched the video but I’m like THANK YOU FOR SAYING THIS I FEEL LIKE IM GOING CRAZY LOL no one will acknowledge this.
@fearoffrying
@fearoffrying 5 ай бұрын
Why she cosplaying Malibu’s Most Wanted?? like I can’t
@ajewishchristianmuslim
@ajewishchristianmuslim 5 ай бұрын
when this generation started dressing Y2K but it was just early 2000s black aesthetic. What happened to their skinny scarves and Abercrombie?
@wk2259
@wk2259 3 ай бұрын
i get your perspective but honestly there isn't enough balance in this video. it's a lot of consecutive negativity and begins to sound nit-picky as a result of this. i hope one day we can all embrace each other when the youth comes together to create a universal culture, borrowing from everyone without anyone holding resentment
@doiknowyou6284
@doiknowyou6284 5 ай бұрын
You may disagree with me but I see not problem being inspired by a certain fashion style and implementing elemenrs of it into how you dress. I haven't watched so many of her interviews but if she's said her outfits are inspired by 90s and 00s hip-hop culture and if she mentioned specific people or artists that have inspired her, I don't think it should've been that big of a deal. As long as she isn't acting like she is the first one to put on oversized shirt and baggy pants. I believe that maybe it's her fans and wider society that are giving Billie so much praise they didn't give other artists, that are the real problem here. Also, as far as I know Billlie's discography, I'd say she's the kind of person to put some country songs on the same album as songs inspired by hip-hop or rap or even jazz. Like ik it's just a joke but still😂.
@Cholmes-lf5kd
@Cholmes-lf5kd 5 ай бұрын
Y’all allow these people to walk into our culture when we can never do the same.
@imauniryne6757
@imauniryne6757 5 ай бұрын
@@doiknowyou6284 it’s not like she discredited black people she said who inspired her and who created her the person who she is now and it was a lot of black artists she named
@doiknowyou6284
@doiknowyou6284 4 ай бұрын
@@imauniryne6757 yes, that's why I tried to say, she seems genuenly inspired by black artists and what she's doing is more out of genuine appreciation than wanting to exploit their legacy to gain popularity. All I'm saying is that people should be able to wear what they like as long as they're respectful to those eho did it before them and aren't doing it put of mockery.
@lemoncarb
@lemoncarb 5 ай бұрын
ok but Billie has been dressing like that for almost a decade… she also used to be friends with XXX and Smokepurpp
@NayTotalKnockout
@NayTotalKnockout 5 ай бұрын
Being friends with black people doesn't justify appropriation of their culture lol
@lemoncarb
@lemoncarb 5 ай бұрын
@@NayTotalKnockout i’m black, let’s start there. tbh, that’s not what i said let’s also get it straight. what i meant was that it’s being presented as if this is some drastic change that Billie has underwent like a Kardashian. she has been dressing similarly since she was 17, let’s not frame it as if she is dabbling or it’s a phase…
@imauniryne6757
@imauniryne6757 5 ай бұрын
@@lemoncarb exactly and in a interview she said artist who she is inspired by and created her Tyler the creator childish gambino and bloody osiris which is a black fashion designer she even work with bloody Osiris in 2021 with her outfit collection I rather for a white person to give us credit it’s so dumb how they think she out of nowhere start dressing like this
@klove33
@klove33 5 ай бұрын
Billy elish has always dressed in baggy clothes , and has always had an urban aesthetic. I don’t agree
@jaylanrhea7215
@jaylanrhea7215 5 ай бұрын
Insurance ran out @ 26!!?! I’m crying
@yessica3420
@yessica3420 5 ай бұрын
So glad you made a video about this. I saw the music video for Guess and was just grossed out by Billie. crazy how a so-called "artist" is not even creative enough to have their own style.
@Twink6629-lg3te
@Twink6629-lg3te 5 ай бұрын
Every form of creativity is inspired by something. She chose something quite questionable tho considering she’s a middle class white girl
@juliawidmaier5334
@juliawidmaier5334 5 ай бұрын
I noticed that too in the Guess mv and was put off by that as well.
@kaylad1669
@kaylad1669 5 ай бұрын
🗣️ “They hate us cuz they ain’t us” 😅😂 iykyk
@ohbooyourselves
@ohbooyourselves 5 ай бұрын
Someone should do a "Ranking celebrities based on their wigga to country pivot 😎➡️🤠"
@ajewishchristianmuslim
@ajewishchristianmuslim 5 ай бұрын
I JUST COMMENTED THIS ON HER LUNCH VIDEO AND THEY CAMMMME FOR ME
@cuntapalooza
@cuntapalooza 4 ай бұрын
Yup, this happened to me, too. Finding this video makes me feel vindicated. 😅❤
@projectgenes1s
@projectgenes1s 5 ай бұрын
Can we have these debates with the actual celebrities, though
@juliawidmaier5334
@juliawidmaier5334 5 ай бұрын
For real, an interviewer on radio or tv or something needs to say this to Billie directly and on a public stage where she needs to be upfront about it.
@IncognitoSprax
@IncognitoSprax 3 ай бұрын
Yep. Some kids try to tell me that she's inspired by it, I was born 92 - we were inspired by. By time she was a pre-teen it was the jerking skinny jeans era. She's not even black adjacent for the most part so looking like chingy and Right thurr is a choice
@Faith.M22
@Faith.M22 5 ай бұрын
I’m not black but this pisses me off. Cultural appropriation is not ok. These celebrities need to stop.
@mikasjewels5772
@mikasjewels5772 5 ай бұрын
I really need this top you're wearing!
@billiealexander7484
@billiealexander7484 5 ай бұрын
I find it personally offensive when people ask me of I, black woman who is years older than her, is named after her as if she invented the name Billie. Can I just rant about that in this space. Also "turning herself into a black man" I have died goodbye.
@NayTotalKnockout
@NayTotalKnockout 5 ай бұрын
Some people forget a way better Billie existed in music before her too. *cough *cough BILLIE HOLIDAY. a black queer woman who actually used her music to bring black American issues to light.
@KidtheBoilermaker
@KidtheBoilermaker 2 ай бұрын
Clothes that aren’t form fitting is a poverty thing, has nothing to do with your skin color.
@KingMAXIMUM-up4rz
@KingMAXIMUM-up4rz Ай бұрын
And yet this style was culminated and popularized by black people and yet it just gets stolen and given no credit to the people who popped it off and unfortunately most people in poverty are black and Hispanic people at the time now you are seeing more white people it's still mainly people of color that are stuck at the bottom
@mulatto_baddie
@mulatto_baddie 4 ай бұрын
i remember online that ppl were saying the reason why billie is wearing oversized clothes is so that she doesn't get sexualized 🤷🏽‍♀️ idk if that's true but this video seems to be a better explanation as to why she wears baggy clothes
@Benmeover
@Benmeover 27 күн бұрын
She had said it in an interview awhile back.
@harrietxo2310
@harrietxo2310 5 ай бұрын
I screamed at the lost and delirious not bc of the movie itself but ur right she’s fr lost and delirious
@mayowasworld
@mayowasworld 5 ай бұрын
lmaoooo did you see that movie!? what a wild time
@leohlaslish9660
@leohlaslish9660 5 ай бұрын
Billie did dress like that at when she was on the rise/ the beginning of her career
@ProfNDKai
@ProfNDKai 5 ай бұрын
The. Title. Alone. I. Have.Been.Waiting !!
@vuyisa4942
@vuyisa4942 5 ай бұрын
Be you be true be demure be considerate
@mayowasworld
@mayowasworld 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@AL-ALady
@AL-ALady 5 ай бұрын
This whole video got me hollerin 😆🤣🤯 I can't even finish my tea and donuts 🤣 it's the title, it's the stud fishing, it's the Soulja Boy aesthetic 😭
@karminsworld
@karminsworld 5 ай бұрын
This is so true but its the "Billie EYELASH" for me 😂😂😂
@madeleineclark283
@madeleineclark283 5 ай бұрын
You can take inspiration but she looks exactly like Soulja Boy
@BeautifulEarthJa
@BeautifulEarthJa 5 ай бұрын
is it the lighting? I love the dark blue walls and you are looking extra chocolate and moisturized love
@rashidareeves78
@rashidareeves78 5 ай бұрын
Your hair🔥🔥🔥
@JubeiKibagamiFez
@JubeiKibagamiFez 5 ай бұрын
4:24 There has been a very overt double standard in society ever since the passing of the Civil Rights Act. Prior to that, Billie woulda been strung up for dressing like that.... But the double standard of "wahyte people can, but black people can't" has existed for decades.
@jaeplae
@jaeplae 5 ай бұрын
This is liiiiiiiterally what they did with locs; always sooooo negative until one of their heroes has an edgy phase 🤮😊
@nokoshadung5257
@nokoshadung5257 5 ай бұрын
This other fan on here literally made sure to delete my reply to her comment calling out Billie Eillish for not growing up in the cutlture she's emulating. The girl thought that just because she's an artist and she grew up in LA, it means it was okay for her to appropriate black culture. First off, the girl was homseschooled. In no shape, way or form did she interact with black kids enough for her to be able to integrate herself in said culture. Second of all, Billie changed her look up to be more "feminine," but because her groupies didn't like that, she went in harder into the 2000's look. She barely wore caps and the bandanas, but now she's fully unashamedly wearing black culture. Even her own brother called her out for talking in AAVE in an interview because they never grew up around that. When you look at black women who wore that way, like Missy Elliot, Da Brat and Queen Latifah, their womanhood and sexuality was heavily called into question, so it didn't make it easier for them to exist in their space. Miley Cyrus got away with it and went back to her white girl aesthetics when she was done with black culture and the same thing is happening now.
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