Why is Elon Musk not a religious person? Does he believe in Christianity (Jordan Peterson) Latest

[@chuck4318]

Jordan Peterson tries to dominate the conversation too much. I would love for him to let Elon fully answer the questions.

[@iwealthyfox]

@@chuck4318 Yes, you are correct 🙌

[@ilkinq.8646]

he does intendedly don't forget he is also psychiatrist. he has active listening ability.

[@jorgemeireles5549]

Absolutely

[@medyk100100]

That’s his BIGGEST weakness! He definitely cannot listen patiently to others and he also put words in other peoples mouths!

[@dhn2549]

That is one way to see it. The other, is that he is supplying branches to the conversation that can then go further towards an outcome. It is a positive way to engage in a conversation. Sometimes he can say too much for sure, but that's only because us mortals (haha) have a hard time keeping up with it. Not always, but a lot of the time. What he does is only a part of what he is doing in order to "assist" the other person involved in the conversation in reaching the end goal. Which I believe is to get them both go have that better understanding, and unlocking a thought process for them both to have better dialogue. =) Try not to get too frustrated with him and see what he's trying to accomplish, rather than the very acute angle in thinking he is annoying for doing what he does! ✌❤☯️

[@Sebassx33]

I find Jordan Peterson super annoying to with, he keeps interrupting.

[@iwealthyfox]

@@Sebassx33 correct

[@yishipan2031]

Same 😂

[@cheret6879]

Indeed

[@baldyhardnut260]

He does it out of excitement for a particular topic, but nevertheless its annoying i agree

[@vicstf8432]

Religious people are like that, but religion aside, he's a smart person.

[@feigelerner2682]

In my opinion, you don’t have to be religious to be spiritual. You can believe in God without being religious. I believe religion should be a guide to balance the physical and spiritual on earth. But if you can find the balance without religion and could be a good human, then it’s all good.

[@Fishingtuts]

That's like Quackerism

[@joefranco6047]

Catholicism is the way. Founded by Christ himself. Praying for you 🙏

[@feigelerner2682]

Thanks!

[@renevalice3056]

Elon musk has that dreamer’a vision- meaning and happiness in the future for all descendants of us. I would see Peterson as narrow, overly interjecting with “pushing the belief system,” while having that hermeneutical parsing confusion.

[@ingridhohmann3523]

Keep believing in the biggest miracle ,Humans striving for goodness and the creator of the universe,...the religion that encompasses everything

[@stephenwilson9872]

Wild. Shogoths. Transparent liquid. Memory. Metals

[@Calbac-Senbreak]

Lucky to not ask me. I think religion is harmful to humanity. That's what I mean when asked about it. I also think that Christianity principles are kind and good, as well as I know that no inteligent ppl really needs to follow some stone rules to achieve spiritual and moral progress. And I believe that the only meaningful and long term lesson we take comes from our free perception and self development through life, without delegating decisions or moral concerns to others or a theological system even if it is good.

[@paulthomas281]

Jordan Peterson's behaviour in this discussion is unbecoming of a mature man.

[@iwealthyfox]

@@paulthomas281 Yes, you are correct 🙌

[@xeniver1]

He's probably just overeager and excited to talk, wanting to move the narrative progression more quickly to whatever point he is trying to make, Musk is a little slow when it comes to vocalizing his ideas, still JP should have exercised more restraint here for sure.

[@baardagaam]

He always had these tendencies; but due to old age and medical issues he kinda lost his inhibitions lately

[@alexyap7323]

Religious? It is very personal matter. To all who believe God, he encouraged everyone to follow or imitate Jesus, and to be religious.. a person's loyalty is with the RELIGION not to God or Jesus. This is complex topic, not unless God called you out, you can never understand the depth of God's thought. Jordan is simply genius at human level. Good luck.

[@stephenwilson9872]

Prestige. Of course

[@stephenwilson9872]

And. Building

[@GORT70]

Organized religion is what Jesus came back to confront. He’s all about faith in action.

[@paulthomas281]

I believe it was Gandhi who said "An eye for an eye will turn the whole world blind".

[@iwealthyfox]

@paulthomas281 That's great. You are absolutely correct...! 💯 👏

[@stephenwilson9872]

The 50,000. Light years

[@zephyrus3554]

JP, stop interrupting

[@iwealthyfox]

@@zephyrus3554 Yes, you are correct

[@AtamMardes]

♦"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool." ♦"Only fools believe & revere the supernatural myths just bc a book claims itself to be the holy truth." ♦"The delusional religious fools are cocksure and the intelligent full of doubt." ♦"The religious believe by the millions what only lunatics could believe on their own." ♦"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." ♦"It's difficult to free fools from the chains they revere."

[@augisr1877]

🟢People can find religion on their own, monks and people who meditate choose to spend time away from others to find God 🟢A book itself can not claim anything. The Bible, to be specific, is a collection of works gathered together to represent the true image of God and his teachings. So the Bible teaches people how to live in a correct and orderly way, so that they may avoid experiencing misery for the rest of their lives. In this video both people agree to that conclusion. 🟢You seem to claim that intelligent people doubt the ways of religion, but if you consider Jordan Peterson intelligent, which I would, then you can see that he does not doubt that the Christian way of life is the correct way to life life not only for individuals but for society as a whole, even Elon Musk agrees to this, whether you consider him intelligent or not. 🟢I'm not sure what you're implying here, that because the religious people are a community instead of individual people, that allows them to believe in that which you consider lunacy? Again many people seek God on their own, monks or not, you could be religious and not tell anyone about it, if you chose to do so. Religious people have communities for the same reason that any other group of people, who are interested in the same thing, tend to create communities for, they want to share their experiences and discuss similar topics together. 🟢I think that poeple who have a goal to search for truth will always consider whether the new information they learn is true or not. Also im not sure how religion could be considered fooling poeple. Christianity, for example, tells people to live by certain commandments, for example: "Honor your father and your mother" "You shall not murder" and "You shall not steal" to name a few. I would recognise these ideas as just and empathetic, the Bible delves more deeply into why people should abide by these ideas, and gives examples on what happens when you do and when you dont. 🟢If the so called fools revere their chains, then there must be a reason why they choose to do so. If you were to try to free a "fool" from their chains, first of all ask them why are they holding on to those chains so tightly. Perhaps then you will gain a new understanding.

[@AtamMardes]

@@augisr1877 Jordan Peterson is another scoundrel busy milking the fools by preaching religious bs.

[@AtamMardes]

@@augisr1877 Jordan Peterson is another scoundrel busy milking the fools by preaching religious bs.

[@AtamMardes]

@@augisr1877 Jordan Peterson is another scoundrel busy milking the fools by preaching religious hogwash.

[@AtamMardes]

@@augisr1877 Jordan Peterson is another scoundrel busy milking the fools.

[@aorinz]

"you can believe in God without being religious"="you can listen to humans without taking them seriously".

[@stephenwilson9872]

Humans had to start cooking. Their food

[@stephenwilson9872]

Temple. Took 10 years. I think. It says. Built. Nashville Tennessee

[@dominikkiepura2975]

Joker who defends order and Batman who defends chaos

[@stephenwilson9872]

Alchemy

[@jirizhanel795]

Elon is regrading this conversation.

[@hannahgrazzini]

KING

[@iwealthyfox]

@@hannahgrazzini True 🙌👍

[@joelmichaelson2133]

How are you supposed to cultivate a relationship with someone that died for you ?

[@Ben-ix1ev]

Jesus is Lord, and you can talk to that Lord anytime you want

[@stephenwilson9872]

Tesla. And real. Wizards

[@JackLWalsh]

Peterson is being unbelievably irritating here. He knows what Elon means. Elon means by not being religious, he means that he doesn’t believe in any supernatural entity. He doesn’t believe that there exists a literal anthropomorphic being that’s omnipotent. He doesn’t believe in an afterlife or any of these ridiculous views on the supernatural. This is what Peterson always fails to understand about the whole religious thing. He makes the mistake of thinking that religious people think like him regarding it. Not everyone is coming from a psychological perspective on social utility. There are religious people who literally believe the earth is 5000 years old, that germs aren’t real, that gravity isn’t real, that Noah’s Ark actually happened, that a man lived in a whale. These are spectacularly stupid beliefs that deserve ridicule. Elon simply doesn’t believe in the supernatural, and neither do I. That’s what he means. We don’t believe in any god story.

[@keymaker2112]

Peterson is a very confused and confusing person, with regard to religion. I find it preposterous that theologically informed individuals have anything to learn from him regarding theology. His perspectives are interesting at times, from a psychological perspective, but at his core he's an agnostic secular liberal.

[@DestinyAwaits19]

Yes most of those things are stupid. The Earth is not 5,000 years old, its much much older, germs are real, and so is gravity. But you may be wrong in your central axioms too. Consciousness may survive after the physical death. Energy cannot be destroyed, it can only be transformed. And the same is true of consciousness. There may very well be an afterlife.

[@matiasvaldivia4566]

No, they're not "stupid beliefs", they are profound and sophisticated stories that have survived the pass of time for a reason. The problem is that you think they are literal. I agree that Peterson is annoying in this interview though.

[@JackLWalsh]

@@matiasvaldivia4566 My problem isn’t that I think the myths are literal, it’s the religious themselves think they’re literal. Also, they are spectacularly stupid beliefs that deserve ridicule. Although I’m glad that you think that Peterson is being irritating.

[@TigerPaint92]

The bible uses a lot of metaphors .. not everything is meant to be taken literally. If you want evidence, read the last book called revelations. So much if it is speaking in code. And all of the prophecies in the bible have came true so far. Not believing in God takes more faith by the way than believing in a supernatural entity. Nothing doesnt come from Nothing. God has always existed, we are nowhere near the intelligence of God that's why we can't understand it.

[@stephenwilson9872]

The glorious. Device. At the. End of the loop

[@stephenwilson9872]

What do you think of religion. Now

[@robvegart]

Being religious is not being spiritual. Being religious is believing in, but not 'believing'. You can be religious, but not spiritual. 2nd Corinthians 3:6 who has made us sufficient to be ministers of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit. For the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. It's not about following God outwardly, but inwardly! AMEN!!!! And not anything goes as those whom are utter religious worldly.... Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. This last verse is often taken out of context and not spiritually this is why worldly religious followers pervert this and take this out of context and pass it on generationally. This has nothing to do with outward wealth, but inward wealth and where true governance is had.

[@stephenwilson9872]

Do I ?

[@stephenwilson9872]

lol. The movie. Co. Pikes peak. The pile of top hats The. Endless chained. Tanks The. Catch of the ball

[@b374f15h]

True religion is what Jordan?

[@stuarthdoblin]

For myself, this was a cringe conversation. Words have definitions. Human institutions define themselves. In order to make any sense out of what was being said, the following words need to be defined precisely: Religion: A path from Mystery to Order. And the questions asked are: What is a religion? A Healing path for a preexisting hurt. 'Are there forms of religions? YES! How many forms of religions are there? Everyone has one. To make of someone elses path for oneself is to formalize their religion. Todays 'Formal Abrahamic Faith Religions" are: Judaism, Christianity, and Muslims. The two-word phrase: "Religious Experience ": is a redundancy. All experience is religious by definition and purpose, The Purpose of life is to share and to be shared in love, when love means the same as 'to grow up'. In other words, the Purpose of life is to grow up,to mature, to soften at the edges while sharpening at the point.

[@stephenwilson9872]

The temple of the emanation. Of wisdom and war. She. Of the flashing eyes. 42’ tall. Her shield taller. Than. I

[@ivan5844]

if elon musk wasn’t polite or protecting his professional image he would say something like this; Christianity is nonsense its like believing in fairy tales from 2000 thousands years ago grow up kid. and I mean everything morality knowledge and meaning.

[@vicstf8432]

You can believe in teaching of religion without believing in a God. because from this perspective, those teachings are not sent by a supreme being, but by wise people who thought them up. Sure, they had to dumb them down for the simple people of those times, but to this day, those kind of people still exist. Unfortunately, even though I'm an atheist, I wish people would be more religious and not give into this woke current with dudes pretending to be girls, puberty blockers, etc.

[@DouglasLowry]

Putting GOD into YOUR _ "Bucket"

[@stephenwilson9872]

Or I’d. showed. Something

[@stephenwilson9872]

Only illusion. Is. Monkey inability. To process

[@Cris-rv4kv]

Not really religious elon is more religious than many religious people out there.

[@stephenwilson9872]

What. Location. Einstein. Is. An hour away.

[@komorebe2542]

Axiomatic presupposition means rules that are agreed without the need to even say them. JP wouldn’t ever say that though as the syllable count per word is too low for his liking. Being articulate imo is communicating and understanding others with full clarity. So, for me, JP is not articulate as he uses conversations as a way to show off his knowledge of large words. This just results in unnecessarily long and clumsy sentences. Also doesn’t help that he has such whiny voice. Not his fault I know, but it makes things worse.

[@stephenwilson9872]

Or. End of all. Worlds as. Enoch. Wrote

[@SP-ru3rs]

The bible was written by men that understood good ways for future men to deal with problems they have already dealt with. It was not written by a "god"! Its basically a advice manual for mankind written in a time of superstition.

[@IamMaximumFury]

Like slavery?

[@augisr1877]

and people say life doesnt come with an instruction manual

[@DouglasLowry]

"religionosity" __ sends people to hell

[@stephenwilson9872]

Who’s. Bukki. That. 60 man. Divide

[@HamZero]

The ending was annoying. Elon already implied that having good sets of principles will lead to happiness. Good sets of principles must have meaning. Jordan has a habit of go back and forth and it can be fine, but sometimes it makes parts of the conversation redundant.

[@True_Heretic]

Yeah, he is so principled that yesterday he plastered a pack of lies by a Fascist website all over the place without fact checking the story first.

[@valvalyrian19]

Polygamy is a sin! Elon does not think anything he does is sinful, Also rich arrogant people think they are gods. Even the beloved beetles said they were bigger then Jesus. Fame and money brings out the demons in men!

[@stephenwilson9872]

Not magicians

[@baardagaam]

2 very smart people that have degenerated in the last 5 years; put together and trying to talk😂

[@dewiwilliams4821]

God must be the mind within which time and space exist. God didnt create us in its image, it created us in its imagination. We dont know how consciousness emerges, or how the physical universe can come from nothing either, but if we presume instead that matter emerges from consciousness, we kill two birds with one stone. It would not be something from nothing, it would be mind from mind. I am not religous, I can believe that this universe is mental, and God is the mind. I have always struggled with religius doctrine that defines God in more detail because I believe that would be blasphemous by definition when I think about it. Although there is no reason to think that would matter to God anyway, that may only matter within our experiences.

[@dallas_cowboys21]

You’re wrong God created man in his image not imagination

[@dewiwilliams4821]

@CaptainD510 Well some books may say that

[@dallas_cowboys21]

@@dewiwilliams4821that’s your opinion We know deep down inside God is real we just deny him because it’s not convenient

[@dewiwilliams4821]

@CaptainD510 I am not denying God. Just the ones we made up.

[@angelhurtado55]

eye ofr an eye leaves all with poor depth perception

[@ingridhohmann3523]

I believe Elon believes in Humanity and that is as religious as it can get !!!!!!

[@iwealthyfox]

@@ingridhohmann3523 So true 🙌👍

[@BollocksFilmReviews]

"Jordan Peterson uses a lot of long words to make himself sound intelligent, but if you actually listen to what he's saying he, most of the time is talking total bollocks." - Richard Dawkins

[@Theoriginalurbanbuffalo]

You sound jealous

[@peterbabicki8252]

​@@Theoriginalurbanbuffalo he might not be, but I am. I wish I could earn money from my bullshit.

[@tjt6999]

Jordan is annoying always interrupting

[@travels129]

Shut up peterson . Always interrupt

[@DouglasLowry]

LIFE has Meaning ONLY WITH GOD

[@888jucu]

Is it just me or is Petersson sounding a whole lot more deranged than normal? Now JP has been deranged quite some time IMO but in this clip he is just interjecting and jibbering non stop its effing annoying

[@balajib785]

I will give you small example l am your last messenger but l don't like this posting l am resigning. Because you are the God if you realised ❤

[@ronfender8101]

When Jordan decides not to tell the truth, he just uses big words.

[@stephenwilson9872]

?

[@beaubolinger1521]

How Can you call yourself a Christion--SIMPLY LOOK AT ALL THE CHILDREN AROUND THE WORLD STARVING DAILY AND HAVE NO M3DICAL

[@keymaker2112]

Are you seriously proposing the Epicurean argument from Evil as a proof against the existence of God? That old thing has been thoroughly discredited so many times at this point I've lost count.

[@mexman000]

some people don't want to believe. its ok. maybe one day they will. Peterson is annoying with his agressiveness.

[@ronfender8101]

ITs a fiction story, why debate it, who cares.

[@Totemking]

Jordan Peterson uses big words that dont make sense in what he is trying to say, he is trying to seem smart but he isn't making sense

[@noahgabriel210]

There is no reason to believe that the Bible has been translated correctly or even if it is a valid source of what Jesus really taught.

[@dbuchanan84]

Religion will not get you into Heaven! Only believing that Jesus Christ died on the Cross for your Sins, and that he rose after 3 days and lives for Eternity, Excepting him as your Lord & Savior, that is the ONLY WAY to HEAVEN! Jordan Peterson, I do like you, but as a Question, then sit back and Shut Up! Give Elon time to process the Question and Answer it! Too many interruptions would piss me off!!!